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Title: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on July 29, 2011, 11:15:16 AM
Voting opens today!

You have just under 5 weeks to get your votes in.  In the case of remakes, please put the year after; i.e. Casino Royale (2006)

As with last year, the vote scale will remain as follows:

1 = 17 points
2-5 = 15 points
6-10 = 14 points
11-20 = 12 points
21-30 = 10 points
31-40 = 8 points
41-60 = 6 points
61-80 = 4 points
81-100 = 2 points

Voting closes September 4th 2011 at 23:59EST
Please copy and paste for the form below when submitting your votes, you may submit anything between 1 and 100 movies.


Send your votes to:
filmspotting100@gmail.com

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Thank you for your participation.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on July 29, 2011, 11:15:51 AM
Here's a few links to get you started:

Filmspotters Top 100 Movies (2010 edition) (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8890.0)
Complete 2010 Spreadsheet (https://rapidshare.com/files/3773902981/FilmspottingTop100x-2010-_FINISHED.xls)
Filmspotters Top 100 Movies (2009 edition) (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6430.0)
Filmsptters Top 100 Movies (2008 edition) (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4444.0)
Top Films of All Time (from the top 5s board) (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.0)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 11:21:58 AM
Be excited! Be, be excited!  ;D
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bill Thompson on July 29, 2011, 11:23:35 AM
Shorts are allowed?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 'Noke on July 29, 2011, 11:26:09 AM
I'm probably gonna only do a top 20 this year.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on July 29, 2011, 11:29:49 AM
Shorts are allowed.
No mini series.

For ease of tabulating, please format movies as:

Godfather, The

For movies that have non english titles, please format movies as:

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon / Wo hu cang long*

As always, Dekalog is ineligible.

And if you want to be really nice, more votes for Lost in Translation is welcome.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on July 29, 2011, 11:33:16 AM
I don't have any 100 list so I didn't think I'd participate. But now that you mention Lost in Translation and that it needs votes... It's one of my favorites. Maybe I should reconsider. ;)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 11:34:32 AM
Wait, I thought Decalog was ineligible last year. It technically is a miniseries.

I don't have any 100 list so I didn't think I'd participate. But now that you mention Lost in Translation and that it needs votes... It's one of my favorites. Maybe I should reconsider. ;)
You don't have to make a full list of 100 if the size daunts you. People have made top 20s and 50s in the past instead.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on July 29, 2011, 11:39:53 AM
Woops, I meant ineligible, thanks Sam!

By all means, vote for any number of movies you want.  The more people who vote, the merrier!  Even if you only vote for 1 movie.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
Decalog fans can vote for A Short Film about Killing and a Short Film About Love as those film versions of Decalogue 5 and 6.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on July 29, 2011, 11:56:11 AM
Decalog fans can vote for A Short Film about Killing and a Short Film About Love as those film versions of Decalogue 5 and 6.

Except those aren't the great parts of the Dekalog  :(

I better finish up my last few one night stand entries. :o
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on July 29, 2011, 12:01:18 PM
Is it safe to assume we are to exclude documentaries, now that docs have their own list (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=10047.0)?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 12:02:39 PM
I hope not. I see no reason to segregate them.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on July 29, 2011, 12:04:02 PM
The overlap, for me, would be substantial. Maybe I'll just exclude them from my own list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on July 29, 2011, 12:18:07 PM
Done.

I wish to remind people to consider...

Charade
The Day of The Jackal
Mary Poppins
The Social Network
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?

and Streets of Fire   ;D
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on July 29, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Is it bad form to post our ballots in this thread, after we've sent them off?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on July 29, 2011, 12:22:54 PM
Is it bad form to post our ballots in this thread, after we've sent them off?

I hope not, I've been gathering screenshots.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on July 29, 2011, 12:24:50 PM
Or you may consider posting it here (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.0) so that people can track it down easier.

I certainly enjoy looking at people's lists.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 12:32:17 PM
Done.

I wish to remind people to consider...

Charade Fun, but Hitchock has made too many films I like much more
The Day of The Jackal Compelling, but not one that yells greatness to me
Mary Poppins Haven't seen since childhood. Have no real desire to revisit
The Social Network I like this film when it was called Citizen Kane
They Shoot Horses, Don't They? Not seen
and Streets of Fire  Not seen
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on July 29, 2011, 12:35:03 PM
Sam, I am fine with all of your counter-punches except for They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, which I will dictate to you given the chance.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 12:39:04 PM
And you know I'm being facetious about The Social Network. It's fantastic, but I've seen at least 10 2010 films I liked more.

If I get the chance, I'll watch They Shoot Horses, Don't They? before the ballot is due.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on July 29, 2011, 12:50:52 PM
Charade Fun, but Hitchock has made too many films I like much more

While that's a perfectly valid reason either way, I hope you realize Hitchcock had nothing to do with Charade.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
Charade Fun, but Hitchock has made too many films I like much more

While that's a perfectly valid reason either way, I hope you realize Hitchcock had nothing to do with Charade.
Am I mistaken in that it is often likened to Hitchcock? I could be wrong about that, but it seems like more than once the comparison has been made when talking about Charade.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on July 29, 2011, 01:19:08 PM
Yep. Often called the greatest Hitchcock film the master never made, which is an insult to the distinct style of Stanley Donen.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on July 29, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
Submitted my ballot. I basically kept my top-60 intact and then used the 60-100 spaces to put films that were in my top-200 that were also in the groups top-300 last year.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on July 29, 2011, 02:50:47 PM
Yep. Often called the greatest Hitchcock film the master never made, which is an insult to the distinct style of Stanley Donen Hitchcock.

I made the point in my review of Charade that it is as bad a suspense film as if Hitchcock had made a musical (how bad would that have been). You are way off thinking Charade is anything but a bit of whimsical romantic comedy. It is a dreadful thriller which is what it is trying to be, because at moments it has some shocking death scenes. It tries to play grown-ups badly. Donen needed to "stick to the knitting". Incredibly far off being top 100 material but good luck flogging this particular dead horse.

Tell how Charade deserves a place in the top 100 more than these superior suspense films, none of which are in my top 100.

The Friends of Eddie Coyle, The Secret In Their Eyes, Le cercle rouge, Notorious or The Big Heat?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on July 29, 2011, 03:07:27 PM
Tell how Charade deserves a place in the top 100 more than these superior suspense films, none of which are in my top 100.

The frequent comment attached to Charade is it's the greatest Hitchcock movie that Hitchcock never directed. Taking a very critical look at the film today I think that's overselling Charade by quite a lot. Aside from a handful of stylized shots, only in the final 15 minutes do I feel the presence of the master. Even then, the suspense is more on par with Hitch's 2nd tier masterpieces. However, no Hitchcock film is this much fun.

Even North by Northwest, which comes close and is a ton of fun, has a large-scale ponderousness to it. Charade is light on its feet and only takes things seriously when it feel the need to. Grant is Grant, whether being squirted in the face by a water pistol or awkwardly rolling an orange over a lady's bosom with his chin (the look on his face during that scene is priceless), the Cary Grant wit and physically comedic goofiness I’ve loved since The Awful Truth is still there. Eva Marie Saint... she's got nothing on Audrey Hepburn. The two most beautiful and elegant stars the movies have ever known define screen chemistry like no other film in existence. Here's a film where one of the high points involves Grant taking a shower in Hepburn's room. I wish they made more films together.  Their meal times are opportunities for some great rom-com writing, and the tension of the treasure hunt story always knows to come in right when things are their cheeriest.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on July 29, 2011, 03:11:44 PM
Alright, I submitted my entry.  I decided not to worry about the "One Night Stands" and just filled my remaining slots with what felt right.  In the end, I've got about a dozen that I've only seen once.  What the hell, it'll all probably change again next year anyway.

Will be posting my list in the other thread as soon as I finish collecting screenshots.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 03:15:19 PM
With over a month, I'd like to take some time to think and rewatch some films. I guess I can understand some people being confident with what they have now, but I'd like to use this as an opportunity to rework my list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on July 29, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
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The good- Hepburn & Grant together; that kind of wraps up the comedy and romance angles, the all-time greats at play. Backed by George Kennedy, James Coburn and Walter Matthau it should be gold all the way

The iffy- what a naff way to handle suspense. 'Give me the money', said over and over again. Suspicion being piled onto Grant's character then dispelled then stuck on from another angle, again and again. A Macguffin about where the money really is that requires 3 different characters to realise almost simultaneously what the secret is, so that the chase can continue. It wants to be all growed up because the deaths are quite gruesome, but it isn't necessary. The name Hitchcock gets mentioned with regard to this film, and I'm sure his musicals would have been weird and dire. Ditto Donen's thriller.
OK so you think of it as a romantic comedy, I can accept that. Just mind the corpses.

As far as submitting, I look at the bottom 20 at least as entirely fluid and replaceable. I have a feeling the early 60s marathon I started is going to challenge my favourites list quite a bit. Perhaps Worm's choice of my first Ray film is going to rocket to the top. I love finding out new films to watch.

Someone please criticise Shoot the piano player I can't understand how it stays off my list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on July 29, 2011, 03:50:21 PM
I guess I can understand some people being confident with what they have now, but I'd like to use this as an opportunity to rework my list.

Heh... I'll never be confident with it, but I figure I'm about as confident as I'll ever be.  Some of things people said in the "What I Learned Today" thread rubbed off on me and I felt like agonizing over it was only going to make it tougher to pull the trigger on it.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on July 29, 2011, 03:55:59 PM
What are "one night stands"? Overnight entries into a Top 100 on the basis of a single viewing?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
Yes, after a certain point I just have to stop, because I could spend weeks agonizing over every film's position. Still, after a bit of time, I'm usually impressed with my ordering....until I make the next version of the film.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on July 29, 2011, 04:08:21 PM
What are "one night stands"? Overnight entries into a Top 100 on the basis of a single viewing?

Right
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on July 29, 2011, 04:08:45 PM
Is it safe to assume we are to exclude documentaries, now that docs have their own list (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=10047.0)?

Related to this, I think it's far better for people to dispense with limitations/exclusions.  I don't like seeing lists that have one film per director rules.  If one feels bad about not giving some beloved films some shine, just post an honorable mention list, or post your top 300, or make an additional list picking 5 or 10 obscure or overlooked films from slots #101-200 and 5 or 10 films from slots #201 to 300, etc.  WE LOVE LISTS HERE.  If a certain documentary is your 8th favorite film of all time, I'd like to see it on the list.  If there are really 5 Kurosawas within your top 75, I want to see them there.  What I value the most in these lists is that it's an expression of who you are as a film lover.  Let it be truly how it is (with the exception of tv miniseries/series).
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
Agreed. I'm picking a top 100 and I'm not going to impose silly rules like only one per director or no documentaries or no shorts. My criteria is that it has to be a great film, one I'd watch again and one I think is among the best I've seen.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on July 29, 2011, 04:13:22 PM
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post your top 300
Personally after last year's top 600 I am looking forward to some expansion from sdedalus- top 800 or the big 1000?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on July 29, 2011, 04:16:09 PM
We'll see how much time I have . . .
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on July 29, 2011, 04:19:33 PM
  What I value the most in these lists is that it's an expression of who you are as a film lover.  Let it be truly how it is (with the exception of tv miniseries/series).

Awww. You put it so beautiful! I want to do that! Express myself as a film lover. Nevertheless I get absolutely blank in my head, my brain enters some sort of meltdown as soon as I mention the idea of making such a list. Mission Impossible!

Oh well. We'll see. No promises. And if not this year, I suppose there will be a new opportunity next year. Can't see Filmspotting going anywhere. Or me.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on July 29, 2011, 04:21:22 PM
Just start with Blade Runner & take it from there. At least you know you will be annoying noff. 8)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 29, 2011, 04:29:30 PM
Oh boy, I guess I should start working on this.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on July 29, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Am I right in assuming that a theatrical serial, like Les Vampires, is eligible?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on July 29, 2011, 04:37:31 PM
Hehe, yeah... that one, Lost in Translation and Eternal Sunshine... definitely belong on my top 100 list. Now there's only the 97 other movies to consider. :)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on July 29, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
Am I right in assuming that a theatrical serial, like Les Vampires, is eligible?
This raises a question. I am sure the film you refer to is excellent (exquisite taste taken as read) but if it isn't widely talked about/ reviewed/ known is there any point voting for it? Like voting for the Green Party it's a wasted vote. It might make more sense to boost a film that you like just to make sure a turkey like Almost Famous never darkens the top 100 again.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 29, 2011, 04:51:12 PM
1. Vote fixing is frowned upon by me...freakin' FroHam
2. Almost Famous does not darken the list, and I think you will find yourself in the minority on that one, obvi
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  What I value the most in these lists is that it's an expression of who you are as a film lover.  Let it be truly how it is (with the exception of tv miniseries/series).

But if that means voting in that manner then go for it!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on July 29, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
But Almost Famous is just so bland.

& vote fixing sounds like fun, it's just we would never agree on a film to do it with.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Junior on July 29, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
I always start with Blade Runner in every thing I do.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on July 29, 2011, 05:18:53 PM
Am I right in assuming that a theatrical serial, like Les Vampires, is eligible?
This raises a question. I am sure the film you refer to is excellent (exquisite taste taken as read) but if it isn't widely talked about/ reviewed/ known is there any point voting for it? Like voting for the Green Party it's a wasted vote. It might make more sense to boost a film that you like just to make sure a turkey like Almost Famous never darkens the top 100 again.

It's a guarantee that 1/3 of the collective list is going to make me groan and curse Bondo's name, so my own list might as well reflect what I really think.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: roujin on July 29, 2011, 05:40:35 PM
Related to this, I think it's far better for people to dispense with limitations/exclusions.

Two per director. That's the only rule I have. But I'm actually thinking of making an exception.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on July 29, 2011, 05:57:38 PM
A Charlie Brown Christmas, as a TV special, is ineligible?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on July 29, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
It's a guarantee that 1/3 of the collective list is going to make me groan and curse Bondo's name, so my own list might as well reflect what I really think.

 ;D

And to think, there's no Bondo effect possible in this top-100. No negative voting either. Just me deciding that Casablanca at #102 on my top-150 is more important to include than High Strung (a film basically no one has seen and probably wouldn't love) at #55. That's a pretty low level of strategic voting.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on July 29, 2011, 06:19:19 PM
Related to this, I think it's far better for people to dispense with limitations/exclusions.

Two per director. That's the only rule I have. But I'm actually thinking of making an exception.

Do away with it, through and through.  Please.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on July 29, 2011, 06:21:24 PM
I'm with Ver. Freedom! Even if that means Miami Vice has to make it.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on July 29, 2011, 06:48:21 PM
I don't mean to butt in or anything, I'm just wondering if anyone has ideas to improve this years list. Be it the presentation, or how it's announced or anything else we can do to kick it up a notch, encourage participation, make the process more fun. It's already good, I don't mean to suggest its needs improvement, and it's not my place to decide how it's going to be, but you know, if someone's got a good idea lets hear it. Something that wouldn't necessarily mean more work for the list builder (Wilson) would be good, he does so much already!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 29, 2011, 06:56:13 PM
Filmspotters need to get together and act out favorite scenes from the list so we can post it with the list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 29, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
I also feel like cheese or some other dairy product could/should be involved.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on July 29, 2011, 07:42:51 PM
Narrowed it down to 1360:

8 1/2
2046
12 Monkeys
127 Hours
2 or 3 Things I Know About Her
2001: A Space Odyssey
24 City
24 Hour Party People
3 Bad Men
3 Godfathers
35 Shots of Rum
4 Months, 3 Weeks, 2 Days . . .
42nd Street
49th Parallel
6istynin9
7 Women
8 Diagram Pole Fighter
8 Women
A Better Tomorrow
A Better Tomorrow 2
A Bridge Too Far
A Brief History of Time
A Bucket of Blood
A Canterbury Tale
A Christmas Tale
A Clockwork Orange
A Corner in Wheat
A Farewell to Arms
A Few Good Men
A Fish Called Wanda
A Fistful of Dollars
A Hard Day's Night
A History of Violence
A Letter to Three Wives
A Life Less Ordinary
A Man Escaped
A Married Woman
A Matter of Life and Death
A Night to Remember
À nous la liberté
A Perfect World
A Prairie Home Companion
A Room with a View
A Scanner Darkly
A Serious Man
A Star is Born (1937)
A Star is Born (1954)
A Story of Floating Weeds
A Time to Love and a Time to Die
A Touch of Zen
A Trip to the Moon
A Walk in the Sun
A Woman is a Woman
Ace in the Hole
Adam's Rib
Adaptation
Advise and Consent
After Hours
After Life
Age of Consent
Aguirre: The Wrath of God
AI: Artificial Inteligence
Air Force
Airplane!
Akira
Alexander Nevsky
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
Alice in Wonderland
Alien
Alien 3
Aliens
All About Eve
All About Lily Chou-chou
All for the Winner
All Men Are Brothers
All Quiet on the Western Front
All That Heaven Allows
All That Jazz
All the President's Men
Almost Famous
Alphaville
Amadeus
Amelie
American Graffiti
An Affair to Remember
An American in Paris
An Autumn Afternoon
An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge
Anatomy of a Murder
Anchorman
Andrei Rublev
Angel Face
Angels with Dirty Faces
Animal Crackers
Animal House
Annie Hall
Apocalypse Now
April Story
Archangel
Armageddon
Army of Darkness
Army of Shadows
Around a Small Mountain
Artists and Models
As Tears Go By
Ashes and Diamonds
Ashes of Time
Assault on Precinct 13 (1976)
Au hasard Balthazar
Babes in Arms
Babette's Feast
Baby Face
Back to the Future
Bad Day at Black Rock
Bad Lieutenant
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans
Badlands
Ball of Fire
Bambi
Bananas
Band of Outsiders
Barbarella
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Batman
Batman Returns
Battleground
Battleship Potemkin
Beau Geste
Beautiful Girls
Beauty and the Beast
Beetlejuice
Before Sunrise
Before the Rain
Being There
Belle de jour
Bend of the River
Beverly Hills Cop
Bicycle Thieves
Big Night
Bigger Than Life
Bitter Victory
Black Hawk Down
Black Narcissus
Black Swan (2010)
Blade Runner
Blast of Silence
Blissfully Yours
Blonde Venus
Blood Simple Paris, Texas
Blow-Up
Blue Velvet
Bluebeard
Boarding Gate
Bob le flambeur
Bob Roberts
Bonjour Tristesse
Bonnie and Clyde
Boogie Nights
Born Yesterday
Bottle Rocket
Boudu Saved from Drowning
Bound
Bound for Glory
Bowling for Columbine
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Brazil
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Breathless
Brick
Brief Encounter
Brigadoon
Brigadoon
Bright Star
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Bringing Up Baby
Broadcast News
Broken Blossoms
Brothers Five
Buffalo '66
Bull Durham
Bullitt
Bunny Lake is Missing
Burden of Dreams
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid
Cabaret
Cabin Boy
Cabin in the Sky
Caddyshack
Café Lumiere
Carlos
Carnival of Souls
Carrie
Cartesius
Casablanca
Cat People
Catch Me If You Can
Catch-22
Caught
Cave of Forgotten Dreams
Celine and Julie Go Boating
Centre Stage
Certified Copy
Charade
Cheyenne Autumn
Chikamatsu monogatari
Children of Paradise
Chimes at Midnight
China Girl
Chinatown
Chop Shop
Chungking Express
Citizen Kane
City Girl
City Lights
City of God
City of Lost Children
City on Fire
Claire's Knee
Clash By Night
Cleo from 5 To 7
Clerks
Climates
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Close-Up
Closely Watched Trains
Clue
Clueless
Come and See
Come Drink With Me
Conan the Barbarian
Contempt
Cool Hand Luke
Cops
Cradle Will Rock
Cranes Are Flying
Cries and Whispers
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Crippled Avengers
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Cruel Intentions
Crumb
Culloden
Curse of the Cat People
Dangerous Liaisons
Dark Journey
Das Boot
Dave Chappelle's Block Party
Dawn of the Dead
Day and Night
Day for Night
Day of Wrath
Days of Being Wild
Days of Heaven
Dazed and Confused
Dead Man
Dead Poets Society
Deception
Deliverance
Dersu Uzala
Design for Living
Desperado
Destry Rides Again
Detour
Devil's Doorway
Dial M for Murder
Diary of a Country Priest
Dick Tracy
Die Hard
Dirty Dancing
Dirty Harry
Do the Right Thing
DOA
Dodsworth
Dog Day Afternoon
Don't Look Back
Don't Look Now
Donovan's Reef
Double Indemnity
Down By Law
Down with Love
Dr. Strangelove
Dr. Zhivago
Drag Me to Hell
Dragon Inn
Dreams
Drugstore Cowboy
Drums Along the Mohawk
Drunken Master
Drunken Master II
Duck Soup
E. T. The Extra-Terrestrial
Early Spring
Early Summer
Earth
Easter Parade
Easy Living
Eat Drink Man Woman
Eccentricities of a Blonde-Haired Girl
Ecstasy
Ed Wood
Edvard Munch
Edward Scissorhands
Eight Men Out
El Dorado
El Mariachi
Election (1999)
Election (2005)
Election 2
Elena et les hommes
Empire of the Sun
Enter the Dragon
Equinox Flower
Escape from New York
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Europa '51
Every Man for Himself and God Against All
Evil Dead II
Excalibur
Executive Suite
Exiled
Existenz
Exit Through the Gift Shop
Exotica
Eyes Wide Shut
F For Fake
Fallen Angel
Fallen Angels
Family Plot
Fantasia
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Fantastic Planet
Fargo
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Fast, Cheap and Out of Control
Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
Father of the Bride
Faust
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Ferries Bueller's Day Off
Field of Dreams
Fight Club
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Fist of Legend
Fitzcarraldo
Five Fingers of Death
Fixed Bayonets!
Flags of Our Fathers
Flight of the Red Balloon
Floating Weeds
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Footlight Parade
Footloose
For a Few Dollars More
Forbidden Planet
Force of Evil
Fort Apache
Forty Guns
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Frankenstein
Frenzy
Friday Night
From Dusk Til Dawn
From Russia with Love
CINECAST!ing Åmål
Full Metal Jacket
Funny Face
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Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
Gertrud
Ghost Dog
Ghostbusters
Giant
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Gimme Shelter
Give a Girl a Break
Glengarry Glen Ross
Glory
God of Gamblers
God of Gamblers 2
Godzilla
Going My Way
Golddiggers of 1933
Goldfinger
Gone with the Wind
Good Morning
Good Night and Good Luck
Goodbye South, Goodbye
Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Goodbye, Mr. Chips
Goodfellas
Greed
Gremlins
Grindhouse
Grizzly Man
Grosse Point Blank
Groundhog Day
Gun Crazy
Gunga Din
Hahaha
Hallelujah, I'm a Bum
Halloween
Hamlet (1948)
Hamlet (1990)
Hangmen Also Die!
Hannah and Her Sisters
Happiness is a Warm Blanket
Happy Gilmore
Happy Together
Happy-Go-Lucky
Harakiri
Hard Eight
Hard-Boiled
Harlan County, USA
Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone
Harvey
Hatari!
Häxan
He Got Game
He Walked By Night
Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse
Heat
Heathers
Heaven Can Wait (1943)
Heaven's Gate
Heavenly Creatures
Hell in the Pacific
Hell is for Heroes
Henri Langlois: Phantom of the Cinematheque
Henry V (1989)
Hero
Heroes of the East
High and Low
High Plains Drifter
Hiroshima, mon amour
His Girl Friday
His Kind of Woman
Histoire(s) du cinema
History is Made at Night
Holiday
Holiday Affair
Hoop Dreams
Hoosiers
Horror of Dracula
House of Bamboo
House of Flying Daggers
How Green Was My Valley
Howard's End
Howl's Moving Castle
Humanity and Paper Balloons
Hunger
I Am Cuba
I am Love
I Don't Want to Sleep Alone
I Know Where I'm Going!
I Love Melvin
I Married a Witch
I Walked with a Zombie
I Was Born But. . .
I Wish I Knew
I'm Not There
If I Should Fall from Grace
Ikiru
Imitation of Life
In a Lonely Place
In the Mood for Love
In the Name of the Father
Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom
Infernal Affairs
Inglourious Basterds
Inland Empire
Intolerance
Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Irma Vep
Ishtar
It Happened One Night
It Should Happen To You
It's a Gift
It's a Wonderful Life
It's a Wonderful World
It's Always Fair Weather
Ivan the Terrible Part 1
Ivan the Terrible Part 2
Jackie Brown
Japanese Girls at the Harbor
Jason and the Argonauts
Jaws
Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles
Jezebel
JFK
Joe vs. the Volcano
Johnny Guitar
Jour de fete
Judge Priest
Judgement at Nuremburg
Jules and Jim
Jurassic Park
Kagemusha
Kameradschaft
Kicking and Screaming
Kill Bill Vol. 1
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Kill!
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Killer's Kiss
Kind Hearts and Coronets
King Kong (1933)
King Kong (2005)
King of Kings (1961)
Kings and Queen
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Kundun
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Kung Fu Hustle
L'Argent (1928)
L'Atalante
L'Avventura
L'Eclisse
La Chinoise
La Collectioneuse
La Commune (Paris, 1871)
La Danse
La dolce vita
La Notte
LA Story
La Strada
Ladyhawke
Lancelot du lac
Land of the Pharaohs
Last Hurrah for Chivalry
Last Life in the Universe
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Late Autumn
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Laura
Lawrence of Arabia
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Le Million
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Le Samourai
Leave Her to Heaven
Leaves from Satan's Book
Legendary Weapons of China
Les Amants du Pont-Neuf
Les Vampires
Less than Zero
Lethal Weapon
Letter from an Unknown Woman
Lifeboat
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Like You Know it All
Limelight
Little Caesar
Lola
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Lolita
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Los Angeles Plays Itself
Lost Highway
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Love Affair
Love and Death
Love in the Afternoon
Love Me Tonight
M
M. Hulot's Holiday
Macbeth
Mad Detective
Madame Bovary
Madame de. . .
Made in USA
Magnificent Obsession
Magnolia
Make Way for Tomorrow
Malcolm X
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Man Hunt
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Manhattan
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Marathon Man
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Mary Poppins
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Master and Commander
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Me & You & Everyone We Know
Mean Streets
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Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence
Meshes of the Afternoon
Metropolis
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Ministry of Fear
Minority Report
Mirror
Mirror
Mission: Impossible
Modern Times
Mogambo
Mon Oncle
Monkey Business (1931)
Monkey Business (1952)
Monsieur Verdoux
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Moonfleet
Moonrise
Moonstruck
Morocco
Morvern Callar
Mother Joan of the Angels
Moulin Rouge!
Mr. Arkadin
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Mudhoney
Mulholland Dr.
Munich
Murder By Contract
Muriel
Mutual Appreciation
My Blueberry Nights
My Darling Clementine
My Fair Lady
My Life to Live
My Night at Maud's
My Own Private Idaho
My Sister Eileen
My Winnipeg
My Young Auntie
Mystery of the Wax Museum (1933)
Mystery Train
Nanook of the North
Nashville
New Rose Hotel
New York, New York
Night and the City
Night of the Hunter
Night of the Living Dead
Night on Earth
Night Train to Minuch
Nightfall
Nights of Cabiria
Ninotchka
No Country for Old Men
No Greater Glory
No Man of Her Own
No Way Out
North By Northwest
Nosferatu, the Vampyre
Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror
Nothing Sacred
Notorious
Now, Voyager
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
October
Odd Man Out
Office Space
Oki's Movie
On Dangerous Ground
On her Majesty's Secret Service
On the Town
On the Waterfront
Once
Once Upon a Time in America
Once Upon a Time in China
Once Upon a Time in the West
Once Were Warriors
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
One Week
One, Two, Three
Ong Bak: Muay Thai Warrior
Only Angels Have Wings
Ordet
Orlando
Ornamental Hairpin
Orphans of the Storm
Othello
Our Daily Bread
Our Hospitality
Out of Africa
Out of Sight
Out of the Past
Oxhide II
Paisan
Pandora and the Flying Dutchman
Pandora's Box
Paprika
Paranoid Park
Park Row
Party Girl (1958)
Party Girl (1995)
Passing Fancy
Passion
Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid
Paths of Glory
Patton
PCU
Peeping Tom
Pennies from Heaven
Pepe le Moko
Persona
Petulia
Pi
Pickpocket
Pickup on South Street
Picnic at Hanging Rock
Pierrot le fou
Pinocchio
Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Platform
Platoon
Play it Again, Sam
Playtime
Pleasantville
Point Blank
Police Story
Police Story 2
Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea
Popeye
Portrait of Jennie
Predator
Presumed Innocent
Pretty in Pink
Princess Mononoke
Princess Raccoon
Private Fears in Public Places
Psycho
PTU
Pulp Fiction
Pump Up the Volume
Punch-Drunk Love
Purple Rain
Quiz Show
Rachel Getting Married
Radio Days
Raging Bull
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Raise the Red Lantern
Raising Arizona
Ran
Rancho Notorious
Rashomon
Ratatouille
Reality Bites
Rear Window
Rebecca
Rebel without a Cause
Rebels of the Neon God
Red Cliff
Red Dust
Red River
Red Rock West
Red-Headed Woman
Reds
Regeneration
Remember the Night
Repulsion
Rescue Dawn
Reservoir Dogs
Reversal of Fortune
Ride the High Country
Rififi
Rio Bravo
Rio Grande
RoboCop
Roger & Me
Roman Holiday
Rome, Open City
Romeo + Juliet
Ronin
Rope
Rosemary's Baby
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
Round Midnight
Rounders
Roxanne
Ruggles of Red Gap
Run Lola Run
Run of the Arrow
Rushmore
Russian Ark
Sabrina
Safety Last
Salvador
Samson and Delilah
Samurai Rebellion
Sands of Iwo Jima
Sanjuro
Sans soleil
Sanshiro Sugata
Sansho the Bailiff
Satantango
Say Anything. . .
Scandal Sheet
Scarface
Scarlet Street
Scream
Searching for Bobby Fischer
Sense and Sensibility
Senso
Serenity
Serpico
Seven
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
Seven Chances
Seven Men From Now
Seven Samurai
Seventh Heaven
Shadow of a Doubt
Shadowlands
Shall We Dance
Shampoo
Shanghai Express
Shaolin Soccer
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
She's Gotta Have It
Sherlock Jr
Shock Corridor
Shogun Assassin
Shoot the Piano Player
Shutter Island
Signs
Silence of the Lambs
Silverado
Simon of the Desert
Simple Men
Sin City
Singin' in the Rain
Singles
Sisters of the Gion
Sita Sings the Blues
Six Degrees of Separation
Sixteen Candles
Slacker
Slap Shot
Sleeper
Sleeping Beauty
Sleuth (1972)
Smoke
Sneakers
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Socrates
Solaris
Some Came Running
Some Kind of Wonderful
Some Like it Hot
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
Southland Tales
Sparrow
Spartacus
Spirit of the Beehive
Spirited Away
Spring in a Small Town
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter. . . and Spring
St. Martin's Lane
Stagecoach
Stalker
Stand and Deliver
Stand By Me
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Wars
Starship Troopers
Steamboat 'Round the Bend
Steamboat Bill Jr.
Still Life
Still Walking
Stolen Kisses
Stranger than Paradise
Strangers on a Train
Stray Dog
Street Angel (1928)
Street of Shame
Strictly Ballroom
Stromboli
Sullivan's Travels
Summer Hours
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
Sunset Blvd.
Supercop
Superman
Superman Returns
Susan Slept Here
Susperia
Suspicion
Sweet and Lowdown
Swing Time
Swingers
Sword of the Beast
Syndromes and a Century
T-Men
Tabu
Talk to Her
Tarzan, the Ape Man
Taste of Cherry
Taxi Driver
Tea and Sympathy
That Hamilton Woman
That's Entertainment!
The 'High Sign'
The 25th Hour
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin
The 39 Steps
The 40 Year Old Virgin
The 400 Blows
The 7th Victim
The Abyss
The Actress
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
The Adventures of Prince Achmed
The Adventures of Robin Hood
The Affairs of Dobie Gillis
The African Queen
The Age of Innocence
The Age of the Medici
The Apartment
The Asphalt Jungle
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
The Atomic Café
The Aviator's Wife
The Awful Truth
The Bad News Bears
The Bad Sleep Well
The Band Wagon
The Bank Dick
The Barefoot Contessa
The Battle of Algiers
The Bells of St. Mary's
The Best Years of Our Lives
The Big Clock
The Big Combo
The Big Heat
The Big Lebowski
The Big Parade
The Big Red One
The Big Sky
The Big Sleep
The Birds
The Bitter Tea of General Yen
The Black Book
The Black Stallion
The Black Swan
The Blair Witch Project
The Blue Angel
The Blue Dahlia
The Blues Brothers
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
The Cheat
The China Syndrome
The Circus
The Clock
The Color of Money
The Color of Pomegranates
The Conformist
The Conversation
The Cowboys
The Crying Game
The Darjeeling Limited
The Dawn Patrol
The Day the Earth Stood Still
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
The Deer Hunter
The Departed
The Devil and Daniel Webster
The Devil is a Woman
The Dirty Dozen
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Docks of New York
The Double Life of Veronique
The Eagle Shooting Heroes
The Empire Strikes Back
The End of Summer
The English Patient
The Exterminating Angel
The Far Country
The Fellowship of the Ring
The Five Deadly Venoms
The Flowers of Shanghai
The Fly
The Fountainhead
The French Connection
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Front Page
The Furies
The Gang's All Here
The Gay Divorcee
The General
The Ghost & Mrs. Muir
The Girl Can't Help It
The Glass Key
The Goat
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
The Godfather Part III
The Gold Rush
The Good, the Bad & the Ugly
The Graduate
The Grand Illusion
The Grapes of Wrath
The Great Dictator
The Great Escape
The Green Ray
The Heartbreak Kid
The Hidden Fortress
The Hitch-Hiker
The Horse Soldiers
The Host
The Hudsucker Proxy
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1939)
The Hunt for Red October
The Hurt Locker
The Hustler
The Illusionist (2010)
The Immigrant
The Importance of Being Earnest
The Incredibles
The Indian Epic
The Insider
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The Iron Giant
The Iron Horse
The Jerk
The Karate Kid
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The Kid
The Killer
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The Killing
The King and I
The King of Kings (1927)
The Lady Eve
The Lady from Shanghai
The Lady Vanishes
The Ladykillers (1955)
The Last Command
The Last Days of Disco
The Last Detail
The Last Emperor
The Last Laugh
The Last of the Mohicans
The Last Picture Show
The Last Seduction
The Last Temptation of Christ
The Last Waltz
The Lavender Hill Mob
The Legend of Fong Sai Yuk
The Leopard
The Leopard Man
The Letter
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
The Life of Brian
The Life of Oharu
The Limits of Control
The Lineup
The Lion in Winter
The Living Daylights
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The Long Voyage Home
The Longest Day
The Loyal 47 Ronin
The Lusty Men
The Magnificent Ambersons
The Maltese Falcon
The Man from Laramie
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Man Who Wasn't There
The Man with a Movie Camera
The Manchurian Candidate
The Mark of Zorro
The Marquise of O
The Masseurs and a Woman
The Matrix
The Men Who Tread on the Tiger's Tail
The Merry Widow (1934)
The Milagro Beanfield War
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek
The Mission
The Mission (1999)
The Moon is Blue
The Mortal Storm
The Most Dangerous Game
The Mummy (1932)
The Musketeers of Pig Alley
The Naked City
The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad
The Naked Kiss
The Naked Prey
The Naked Spur
The Name of the Rose
The Narrow Margin
The Natural
The Navigator
The New World
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The One-Armed Swordsman
The Others
The Outlaw Josey Wales
The Ox-Bow Incident
The Palm Beach Story
The Pan-American Exposition by Night
The Paper Chase
The Parallax View
The Passenger
The Passion of Joan of Arc
The Phenix City Story
The Philadelphia Story
The Pirate
The Pit and the Pendulum
The Play House
The Player
The Power of Kangwon Province
The Princess Bride
The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes
The Proposition
The Protector
The Prowler
The Public Enemy
The Puppetmaster
The Purple Rose of Cairo
The Quick and the Dead
The Quiet American
The Quiet Man
The Red Balloon
The Red Shoes
The Right Stuff
The River (1951)
The River's Edge
The Road Home
The Road Warrior
The Roaring Twenties
The Romance of Astrea and Celadon
The Royal Tenenbaums
The Rules of the Game
The Savage Innocents
The Scarlet Empress
The Searchers
The Secret Beyond the Door
The Secret of Kells
The Secret of NIMH
The Set-Up
The Seventh Seal
The Shanghai Gesture
The Shawshank Redemption
The Shining
The Shop Around the Corner
The Shopworn Angel
The Sign of the Cross
The Sleeping Beauty
The Small Back Room
The Social Network
The Sorrow and the Pity
The Spirit of the Beehive
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
The Steel Helmet
The Sting
The Story of a Cheat
The Story of GI Joe
The Story of the Late Chrysanthemums
The Stranger
The Strawberry Blonde
The Sweet Smell of Success
The Sword of Doom
The Tai Chi Master
The Taking of Power by Louis XIV
The Tale of Zatoichi
The Talented Mr. Ripley
The Tales of Hoffman
The Tall T
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The Tarnished Angels
The Terminator
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The Thief of Baghdad
The Thin Blue Line
The Thin Man
The Thin Red Line
The Thing
The Thing from Another World
The Third Man
The Three Ages
The Train
The Treasure of the Sierra madre
The Tree of Life
The Trial (1962)
The Trouble with Harry
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
The Untouchables
The Verdict
The Wages of Fear
The War Game
The Warriors (1979)
The Water Margin
The Wild Bunch
The Wild Child
The Wind That Shakes the Barley
The Wind Will Carry Us
The Wizard of Oz
The Woman in the Window
The World
The World of Henry Orient
The Young Girls of Rochefort
The Zero Effect
There Will Be Blood
There's Always Tomorrow
There's Something About Mary
They Live By Night
They Were Expendable
Thieves' Highway
This Gun for Hire
This is Spinal Tap
Thomas Mao
Three Amigos
Three Colors: Blue
Three Colors: Red
Three Colors: White
Three Comrades
Three Kings
Three Times
Throne of Blood
Throw Mamma from the Train
Thunderball
Tight Spot
Time Bandits
Time Regained
To Be or Not To Be
To Catch a Thief
To Have and Have Not
To Live and Die in LA
Tokyo Chorus
Tokyo Drifter
Tokyo Story
Tokyo Twilight
Top Gun
Top Hat
Topaz
Topsy-Turvy
Torn Curtain
Total Recall
Touch of Evil
Tout va bien
Toy Story
Toy Story 2
Track of the Cat
Trading Places
Trainspotting
Tristram Shandy: A Cock and Bull Story
Tropical Malady
Trouble in Paradise
True Grit (2010)
True Heart Susie
True Romance
Trust
Twentieth Century
Two Lovers
Two Rode Together
Two-Lane Blacktop
Ugetsu
Unbreakable
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives
Under Capricorn
Under the Roofs of Paris
Underworld
Underworld, USA
Unfaithfully Yours
Unforgiven
Unknown Pleasures
Up
Vampyr
Vanilla Sky
Vengeance
Vera Cruz
Vertigo
Viridiana
Voyage in Italy
Wagon Master
Wait Until Dark
Waiting for Guffman
Wake Island
Waking Life
Walkabout
Wall Street
WALL-E
Wallace & Grommit: A Grand Day Out
Waltz with Bashir
WarGames
Waterloo Bridge
Way Down East
Wayne's World
Wee Willie Winkie
Week End
West Side Story
Wet Hot American Summer
What Price Hollywood?
What Time is it There?
What's Up, Tiger Lily?
When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
When Harry Met Sally. . .
When We Were Kings
Where the Sidewalk Ends
While the Cuty Sleeps
White Dog
White Heat
White Hunter, Black Heart
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Who's that Knocking at My Door?
Wild Boys of the Road
Wild Grass
Wild Reeds
Wild Strawberries
Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Winchester '73
Wings
Wings of Desire
Withnail & I
Witness for the Prosecution
Woman in the Dunes
Woman on the Beach (2006)
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
Wonder Boys
Woodstock
Written By
Written on the Wind
Y tu mama tambien
Yang Kwei-fei
Yi yi
Yojimbo
Yolanda and the Thief
You Only Live Once
You Only Live Twice
You Think You're the Prettiest but You Are the Sluttiest
You, the Living
Young Mr. Lincoln
Zelig
Zéro de conduite
Zhou Yu's Train
Zodiac
Zoolander
Zulu
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2011, 07:52:00 PM
I refuse to game the system. I embrace my list ans first and foremost personal. If it happens to push films I love forward on the list, great. If the ones that don't make the cut on my list end up just barely falling off the edge of the filmspotting top 100, so be it.

No regret.  8)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 'Noke on July 29, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
127 Hours!!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 29, 2011, 07:59:26 PM
Actually you have more like 840 hours, or 5 weeks, but glad to see your enthusiasm!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: oldkid on July 29, 2011, 08:55:06 PM
sdedalus: That list makes me want to report you to the authorities.  I'm not sure which authority, but it is abusive.  All those films I've never seen and SOMEONE SAYS THEY ARE GREAT... I have a lot of work to do.


I've been working on my top 100 for more than a year, so I hope I have something good to show for it.  Although I recognize I won't finish my project in five weeks, I do have a number of one night stands to catch up with.  I will do what I can.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bill Thompson on July 29, 2011, 09:34:12 PM
I refuse to game the system. I embrace my list ans first and foremost personal. If it happens to push films I love forward on the list, great. If the ones that don't make the cut on my list end up just barely falling off the edge of the filmspotting top 100, so be it.

No regret.  8)

Same for me, and I've about had it with the entire idea of gaming. It's stupid and doesn't result in an actual top 100 list, I don't want to have anything to do with it.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: mañana on July 29, 2011, 09:54:31 PM
A Charlie Brown Christmas, as a TV special, is ineligible?
I have no idea if it's eligible or not, but it's always on my list.

I'm with Ver. Freedom!
This.

Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on July 29, 2011, 10:44:13 PM
I refuse to game the system. I embrace my list ans first and foremost personal. If it happens to push films I love forward on the list, great. If the ones that don't make the cut on my list end up just barely falling off the edge of the filmspotting top 100, so be it.

No regret.  8)

Same for me, and I've about had it with the entire idea of gaming. It's stupid and doesn't result in an actual top 100 list, I don't want to have anything to do with it.

I could have worded it a different way, as could the others who are accepting "gaming," maybe what I'm submitting as my ballot is the films I consider the 100 greatest rather than my 100 favorite. I know FroHam makes that distinction. Since the FS100 is clearly not a list, generally, for comedies and popcorn blockbusters, I don't see why it is problematic for me to make a list that targets "great" films more.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on July 30, 2011, 04:37:02 AM
I don't mean to butt in or anything, I'm just wondering if anyone has ideas to improve this years list. Be it the presentation, or how it's announced or anything else we can do to kick it up a notch, encourage participation, make the process more fun. It's already good, I don't mean to suggest its needs improvement, and it's not my place to decide how it's going to be, but you know, if someone's got a good idea lets hear it. Something that wouldn't necessarily mean more work for the list builder (Wilson) would be good, he does so much already!

The presentation this year will be changed but I'm open to any and all suggestions.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on July 30, 2011, 02:37:05 PM
Explanations:

So I just posted my contribution in the other thread. It's not the work of months and years of consideration. I put it together today. As you'll see there are quite a few obvious "classics" missing. It's been ages since I saw movies such as The 400 blows and I just can't remember it. I suppose it was good but it would feel wrong to put it up just because it's "considered" a classic.

There are a couple of movies that by no means can be considered "Big Art", but which for various reasons still have managed to sneak a certain spot in my heart, God knows why really. Examples of those are Can't buy me love and Short Circuit.

The ranking between the different spots as soon as we leave the top, is a bit random. I'm sure there are movies that are down about the 70s that I could consider better than one about the 40s if I thought it over more closely.

The philosophy of the list has been to express a bit of me as a film lover. As you see there aren't many movies from the East at all, simply because I've seen so few. Might change over time! Hopefully. I've also got a bit of a gap since I didn't watch all that much movies from my kids were born in the mid 90s until I picked up my old passion for movies again this year. There's a lot missing here. Be kind with me.

Above all I've made the list with love and lust. Those are movies that I'd love to have around and would enjoy seeing again (in most cases. I don't dare to see Pan's Labyrinth again, ever!)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Beavermoose on July 31, 2011, 11:38:15 AM
My list is going to change a lot this year. There are over 80 films that I've seen since last year that I'm considering adding.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 31, 2011, 11:44:57 AM
Wow, that's a lot. I usually end up straining for ten.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 31, 2011, 11:51:15 AM
My list is going to change a lot this year. There are over 80 films that I've seen since last year that I'm considering adding.

I feel like this is me. Completely blowing up last year's list. The only thing I know right now is that my #1 and #2 will probably be the same as last year. Other than that, it's up for debate.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on July 31, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
I've already seen all of 2010's Top 100 and I submitted a list, but could someone PM me 101-200 of last year. I'd love to add anything from there I haven't seen to my DVD queue.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on July 31, 2011, 12:45:20 PM
Done. There are ten in the second hundred that I haven't seen.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on July 31, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
I've never understood the distinction between "favourites" and "bests" when the latter list will only ever be your personal endorsements of some canon anyway, and always open to films you haven't seen from it. For me, it's almost an open dismissal of one's personal preference as somehow inferior to an agreed-upon list by the ruling critical elite of the time; with obvious reason to celebrate when your "personal" list overlaps with a "canon". I spoke briefly of that here (http://idfilm.blogspot.com/2011/07/top-100s-and-why-we-make-them.html).

I've decided not to bend over backwards fitting unseen greats in over the next five weeks, figuring that seeing a film in order to fit it into a possible favourites list - with very little time for reflection and the test of longevity - is perhaps the wrong reason to see it. I'm thinking of films like Tokyo Story, which I've had unwatched for ages. My list this year will be as interesting (to me) for its limits as it is for its inclusions: "Oh, when I was 23 I still hadn't seen an Ozu film."

Rather, I'd prefer to revisit films on the cusp of an instinctive Top 100, and treat the final FS list as one recommending unseen stuff for my own list next year.

That way, my list at least favours enduring preferences always open to an annual shift (if we're to take a year as the appropriate mark of re-evaluation); as opposed to overnight changes in preference, which can make these lists agonising to do.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on July 31, 2011, 12:52:02 PM
Done. There are ten in the second hundred that I haven't seen.
Thanks. So I haven't seen...

Brighter Summer Day  which I've put off because I wasn't too big on Yi Yi
Jeanne Dielman...  which I'm just not ready to do. Sounds like the worst possible movie to recommend to me.
Persona  actually I have seen this, but it was my first Bergman (back in 1990) so a rewatch is in order.
Ratcatcher  what else has this person directed?  ::)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 31, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
I've never understood the distinction between "favourites" and "bests"
It's one I find hard to make as well, so I just always call my list top 100 films.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: oldkid on July 31, 2011, 01:06:16 PM
I'm always happy to watch "the greats", as while I might not call them "great" myself, at least they are interesting.  And they often lead me to ones I will put on my personal best.  I am so happy to have seen Kurosawa, if only for Red Beard.  I am happy to have been led to Powell and Pressburger, if only for the thrilling middle section of The Red Shoes.  I may not be much of a Hitchcock fan, but Rear Window is among my top favorites. 

On the other hand, I really regret seeing Eraserhead.  Or, recently, I Saw The Devil.  But, my experience expands and it's all good.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 31, 2011, 01:07:52 PM
I can't think of any films I regret seeing, even if they ended up being terrible.

Except Nacho Libre. Jack Black in stretchy pants has left me scared for life.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on July 31, 2011, 01:25:49 PM
Without a doubt I care more about making a top 100 favorite movies list when it comes to what I post over in the other thread. But when it comes to this ballot, the list is ultimately much more of a 100 greatest movies so I submit a ballot suitable to it.

Brighter Summer Day  which I've put off because I wasn't too big on Yi Yi

Yeah, from the director of Yi Yi sounds like one for me to pass on.

Jeanne Dielman...  which I'm just not ready to do. Sounds like the worst possible movie to recommend to me.

I don't remember what I rated this at the time (2/5 apparently) but I'd give it a 3/5 now. Though I can't help but think I like the idea of it more than actually watching it. I had to stop midway through and watch In Bruges before setting back in.

Persona  actually I have seen this, but it was my first Bergman (back in 1990) so a rewatch is in order.

On the imdb250 so it is gonna come up quick for me but all signs point to 1/5.

Ratcatcher  what else has this person directed?  ::)

It's not THAT bad ;) Another 3/5 for me.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Melvil on July 31, 2011, 01:32:44 PM
Brighter Summer Day  which I've put off because I wasn't too big on Yi Yi

Yeah, from the director of Yi Yi sounds like one for me to pass on.

For me it's a better and very different movie than Yi Yi. It's one of the movies I'm most excited to add to my top 100. I don't know that I'd recommend it to you, Bondo, but I think it could interest 1SO.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on July 31, 2011, 02:07:29 PM
Persona=Love ; Bondo=Loathe
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on July 31, 2011, 02:25:16 PM
Without a doubt I care more about making a top 100 favorite movies list when it comes to what I post over in the other thread. But when it comes to this ballot, the list is ultimately much more of a 100 greatest movies so I submit a ballot suitable to it.
Yes but how do you adjust? Do you have a different list of parameters for each? I'd be genuinely interested in seeing them.

"Greatest" lists are generalised because of the amount of voters. Everyone has their personal preferences, and the final ballot reflects the most overlapping tastes.

My #1 will be The French Connection, unless a revisit of another film changes my mind. Do I think it's the therefore the best film ever made? Well, I can't think of another film I'd champion any more than it...

(I don't think a "Greatest" list should necessarily be synonymous with "culturally significant/important".)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on July 31, 2011, 03:43:43 PM
My #1 will be The French Connection, unless a revisit of another film changes my mind. Do I think it's the therefore the best film ever made? Well, I can't think of another film I'd champion any more than it...

That's an interesting choice.  What do you think of the Blu-Ray?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Jared on July 31, 2011, 07:53:08 PM
I always have the French Connection at like #12 or so...some one giving it a 1 vote is all right by me! It's getting on the 100 this year
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on July 31, 2011, 07:58:12 PM
As am I. I caught a bit of it on TV last night, and I was reminded what a damn fine film it is--what a damn fine New York film it is.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Junior on July 31, 2011, 10:26:00 PM
Instead of what I've done the past three years I'm only going to be gaming. I'll be taking last years big list and reordering it so that only good movies make it in. No new entries. I won't even see any of the movies I've missed. They'll go to the bottom because they must be horrible or else I would have seen it.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 31, 2011, 10:39:07 PM
I'm taking Seventh Heaven of my list naow!  >:(
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Jared on August 01, 2011, 10:28:58 AM
trimmed a shortlist of about 200 films together. Went through last year's spreadsheet and found 10 to 15 more that I missed. Today I begin the arranging.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 01, 2011, 11:17:14 AM
My #1 will be The French Connection, unless a revisit of another film changes my mind. Do I think it's the therefore the best film ever made? Well, I can't think of another film I'd champion any more than it...

That's an interesting choice.
Yeah, it was the film I've come to recognise as getting me into "serious" film-watching.

Another word on "favourites" over "bests"... There are many, many excellent films of course; but when it comes to fine-combing between this excellent film and that excellent film, what else is there to go by other than personal preference? I certainly have nothing other than that to say The French Connection is "more excellent" than a Citizen Kane or a Godfather.

More thoughts on this here (http://idfilm.blogspot.com/2011/04/films-i-always-go-back-to.html), I guess.

Quote
What do you think of the Blu-Ray?
I don't own a Blu-Ray player unfortunately. I have the R2 3-disc set of both films, with the Poughkeepsie Shuffle documentary.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on August 01, 2011, 12:49:36 PM
Re- French Connection. smirnoff and myself just watched To Live And Die In L.A.. This might get you on noff's back but he said the car chase was better in the 80s Friedkin. How do you feel about that and how do you rate TLADILA in general?

Also, personally, once I see some film is somebody's all-time favourite film I feel it is a bit off limits for general slagging off because it is so dear to somebody (for irrational reasons probably). I am thinking of Lobby's choice of Lost In Translation which I am now reticent to slap like I would had before (mainly for ScaJo reasons).
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Jared on August 01, 2011, 01:02:02 PM
I think the car chase in the 80s movie is just as good if not better (especially that tracking shot from below to above the freeway...magnificent), but I feel like the overall film has a much more sadistic tone that didnt work as well for me.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on August 01, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
What do you think of the Blu-Ray?

I don't own a Blu-Ray player unfortunately. I have the R2 3-disc set of both films, with the Poughkeepsie Shuffle documentary.

The Blu-Ray transfer is really controversial, but I loved it.  Really liked the movie too.  I didn't care for it the first time I saw it years and years ago, but I can easily see it being a Top 100 film now.

Love To Live and Die in LA, too.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 01:30:11 PM
With apologies to the Campion Ver contingent, these were my restrictions: no documentaries (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9259.msg577560#msg577560) (integrated list here (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.msg574659#msg574659)), no performance films, no shorts (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6269.msg612661#msg612661).

Now, prepare to tremble at how staggeringly middlebrow one man's taste can be:


1. FIGHT CLUB
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2. MEMENTO
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3. CONFESSIONS OF A DANGEROUS MIND
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4. APOCALYPSE NOW
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5. CASINO
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6. GODFATHER, THE
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7. L.A. CONFIDENTIAL
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8. HEAT
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9. CLERKS
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10. TRAFFIC
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11. FEAR & LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS
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12. 24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE
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13. DOORS, THE
(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/doors.jpg)
14. SUBURBIA
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/5997029690_cebe3c6a24_m.jpg)
15. RULES OF ATTRACTION, THE
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16. BLOW
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17. WAY OF THE GUN, THE
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18. LA HAINE
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19. ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD, THE
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20. BRONSON
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21. SEVEN
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22. BARTON FINK
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23. SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION, THE
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24. SNATCH
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25. PRESTIGE, THE
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26. CITY OF GOD
(http://www.filmering.at/images/stories/city_of_god5.jpg)
27. RAGING BULL
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28. WALTZ WITH BASHIR
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29. TRAINSPOTTING
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30. REAL LIFE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6023/5997156728_a2ac2201a1_m.jpg)
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31. INCEPTION
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32. GATTACA
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33. WONDERLAND
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6134/5996623515_15a9042277_m.jpg)
34. BOILER ROOM
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35. SEXY BEAST
(http://www.pixtelevision.com/media_content/2_3189.jpg)
36. SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5jEWWG9TRKI/Tqc0YAN2HXI/AAAAAAAAEFU/CpOiNM95Vqs/s1600/429149625_1873047471_synecdoche-new-york.jpg)
37. WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY, THE
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38. PULP FICTION
(http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/p/p_s/pulp_fiction_57835-160x120.jpg)
39. ADAPTATION
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40. PROPOSITION, THE
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41. BLINDNESS
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6044386834_58154b86a0_m.jpg)
42. EXPERIMENT, DAS
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/694/216/18612496:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20100802172506)
43. THERE WILL BE BLOOD
(http://images.digitalspy.co.uk/08/03/160x120_therewillbeblood.jpg)
44. TAPE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5997300524_90d44e5e0c_m.jpg)
45. STING, THE
(http://rexee-08.vo.llnwd.net/d1/video_img/726/7547627/7547627_8424_18706.jpg)
46. HIGHBALL
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5996767801_4dc0697485_m.jpg)
47. SQUID & THE WHALE, THE
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48. LOCK, STOCK, & TWO SMOKING BARRELS
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/959/836/23638959:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20100806140333)
49. CQ
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6141/5997342096_69c296e0be_m.jpg)
50. GAME, THE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6011/5996800075_94fab4249b_m.jpg)
51. ROYAL TENENBAUMS, THE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5996810321_4874045243_m.jpg)
52. BUFFALO '66
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/5997375900_2bf83b651b_m.jpg)
53. TRISTRAM SHANDY: A COCK & BULL STORY
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6149/5997385016_829cd169c7_m.jpg)
54. TAKING OF PELHAM ONE TWO THREE, THE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6150/5997396554_42e1d409e2_m.jpg)
55. THIS IS ENGLAND
(http://i1.cdnds.net/film/library/160x120_thisisengland_optimum.jpg)
56. QUIET AMERICAN, THE
(http://www.pixtelevision.com/media_content/2_3171.jpg)
57. JCVD
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/5996861507_c5be26d316_m.jpg)
58. GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS
(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/098/004119_11.jpg)
59. RKO 281
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/650/171/15171056:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20100731035825)
60. LENNY
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/244/472/3274442:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20100722095639)
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61. DREAMERS, THE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6011/5997435172_157c9f8ee5_m.jpg)
62. INSIDER, THE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6021/5996891311_44b604a66e_m.jpg)
63. NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6122/6043996747_0bce778f5c_m.jpg)
64. RAVENOUS
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FGUijrfd274/Tu-LnMx4lfI/AAAAAAAAAw8/Ita9DS8kNxU/s1600/ravenous_8.jpg)
65. UNDER SUSPICION
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/5997452474_8854a2f67b_m.jpg)
66. Y TU MAMÁ TAMBIÉN
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/5996913767_722e39b9cc_m.jpg)
67. INSOMNIA
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6013/5997482894_2b23e03673_m.jpg)
68. KONTROLL
(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/768/032284_14.jpg)
69. I HEART HUCKABEES
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70. OLDBOY
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7115/7742232054_196a44093d_m.jpg)
71. ...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6013/5996949097_dfea3b305b_m.jpg)
72. THE RETURN
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/5998064109_1c72eb4ab6_m.jpg)
73. FITZCARRALDO
(http://rexee-19.vo.llnwd.net/d1/video_img/924/53318429/53318429_2160.jpg)
74. RUSSIAN ARK
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/708/547/20745807:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20100804080338)
75. SCUM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6130/5998717054_9f8579c9e7_m.jpg)
76. BRICK
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6144/5998127479_9a224ec65b_m.jpg)
77. LAST MINUTE, THE
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/5998197925_0425bf9b5f_m.jpg)
78. FOLLOWING
(http://whatculture.com/wp-content/themes/manifesto/scripts/timthumb.php?src=http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/9505381.jpg&h=120&w=160&zc=1)
79. IMMORTAL BELOVED
(http://rexee-06.vo.llnwd.net/d1/video_image_1/2530/1210280352_60_11801.jpg)
80. LIFE & DEATH OF PETER SELLERS, THE
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8307/7742200470_0a6719236a_m.jpg)
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81. HIGHER LEARNING
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5998832450_15c1e194d5_m.jpg)
82. INTACTO
(http://www.movie-list.com/i/intacto.jpg)
83. STRAIGHT TIME
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6132/5998850700_6a765feeab_m.jpg)
84. THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY?
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6123/5998860760_6a581cbe77_m.jpg)
85. ED WOOD
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/5998322339_13019d599f_m.jpg)
86. SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, THE
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/570/663/33366075:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20110726034805)
87. AMORES PERROS
(http://www.kenrosenberg.com/images01/amores3.jpg)
88. HURRICANE, THE
(http://static2.dmcdn.net/static/video/167/850/20058761:jpeg_preview_medium.jpg?20100803184231)
89. SUGAR
(http://0.gvt0.com/ThumbnailServer2?app=vss&contentid=18948ec5a8a328b4&offsetms=1&itag=w160&hl=en&sigh=__X7kdyymAuMhHFPMBv0oHdjGOM_Q=)
90. STANDER
(http://m.popstar.com/Videos/Movies/0000006282.jpg)
91. LIVES OF OTHERS, THE
(http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/t/t_s/the_lives_of_others_58795-160x120.jpg)
92. HOTEL RWANDA
(http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/h/h_s/hotel_rwanda_61087-160x120.jpg)
93. AUTO FOCUS
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6024/5998927024_39067e9396_m.jpg)
94. NINE QUEENS
(http://i1.tribune.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/award1-Photo-File-160x120.jpg)
95. SWINGERS
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6144/5998946560_f3445208dd_m.jpg)
96. LIVING IN OBLIVION
(http://www.sonypictures.com/classics/living/multimedia/stills/cast.gif)
97. AMERICAN HISTORY X
(http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/a/a_s/american_history_x_58499-160x120.jpg)
98. LÉON: THE PROFESSIONAL
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/5999028570_2621842369_m.jpg)
99. DEVIL IN A BLUE DRESS
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6021/5999028672_eaf07932db_m.jpg)
100. LOLITA
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6138/5999028736_48f26e8a9b_m.jpg)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on August 01, 2011, 01:39:47 PM
You had me at Fight Club. You are more Fincher than Coppola tho'.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 01, 2011, 01:42:24 PM
That shot isn't in Brick, but I believe it's in the trailer. I think Rian Johnson talked about that in the deleted scenes.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Jared on August 01, 2011, 01:43:18 PM
Seen 73 of those by my count. Cool list.

get some docs in there though  8)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 01:44:58 PM
That shot isn't in Brick, but I believe it's in the trailer.

Yes, and yes. But I like it better than any shot that's actually in BRICK.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on August 01, 2011, 01:50:35 PM
Is The Godfather the oldest film on that list?  Impressive.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
Coming from you, that sounds pretty sarcastic.

(Not that I blame you; but I did warn you about my taste beforehand.)

Fact-checking edit: THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY? is actually the oldest (1969).
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: ses on August 01, 2011, 02:10:05 PM
It may be best for people to post their Top 100 films in the Top Films of All Time thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.0) and link to them in this thread.  Then we can keep the ongoing list of Top films for everyone that is at the beginning of that thread up to date. 
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 02:16:27 PM
I only posted the list in this thread because my Top 100 ballot is different from my Top 100 of All Time (which includes documentaries). But I did link to the latter at the top of my post.

Apologies for the clutter.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: ses on August 01, 2011, 02:19:18 PM
No worries.  I just meant that as a future comment, in case anyone posting their lists for the first time.  It would be better to do it over there, so they can get added to the master list at the front of the thread.  Or so people's updated lists could be added as well.  Just thought I should mention that before a lot of people start posting their lists. 

Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 'Noke on August 01, 2011, 02:26:38 PM
That shot isn't in Brick, but I believe it's in the trailer.

Yes, and yes. But I like it better than any shot that's actually in BRICK.

Does...Not.....compute.


Nice list though. I'll love any list with Brick, and with Fight Club at #1.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 01, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
That list is very... um, male, I guess?  I like a lot of your choices, though.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 02:41:21 PM
Does...Not.....compute.

Ha, maybe that came out wrong: BRICK is chock-full of wonderful shots, but I am particularly enamored with that shot of Nora Zehetner.

That list is very... um, male, I guess?

Ha! Like in the frat-boy sense? Well, at least I can thank you for confirming my virility. Now, spot me while I try this keg stand.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 01, 2011, 03:23:52 PM
Ha! Like in the frat-boy sense?

Yeah, sort of.  It's a lot of movies about guys being tough or dealing with intense situations.  There aren't a whole of female leads in your selections.  I don't want to be dismissive or do too much generalizing, but it just strikes me as "stuff a typical guy likes".  It's very testosterone-y.  Like, it struck me that a bunch of your screenshots feature men with guns (often pointed at the viewer) or clearly about to kick some kind of ass.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 01, 2011, 03:27:02 PM
What do you think of the Blu-Ray?

I don't own a Blu-Ray player unfortunately. I have the R2 3-disc set of both films, with the Poughkeepsie Shuffle documentary.

The Blu-Ray transfer is really controversial, but I loved it.
How so?

Interestingly, the only other Friedkin film I've seen is The Exorcist.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 03:44:05 PM
Yeah, sort of.  It's a lot of movies about guys being tough or dealing with intense situations.  There aren't a whole of female leads in your selections.  I don't want to be dismissive or do too much generalizing, but it just strikes me as "stuff a typical guy likes".  It's very testosterone-y.  Like, it struck me that a bunch of your screenshots feature men with guns (often pointed at the viewer) or clearly about to kick some kind of ass.

Huh. Well, I appreciate the evaluation. I can't say that I necessarily disagree. I suppose I do gravitate toward male protagonists who find themselves threatened by death/fate/crisis, though I am generally nothing like said men (able, tough, proud, etc.). A casual observer of my life might even assume that my cinematic leanings are a byproduct of the masculine role-model void left by growing up without a full-time father. (They'd be wrong, but they still might assume it.)

So, how much for the hour, Doc Teller?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 01, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
This one's on the house.

Anyway, here's the ones I particularly like:

4. APOCALYPSE NOW
5. CASINO
6. GODFATHER, THE
12. 24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE
22. BARTON FINK
31. REAL LIFE
36. SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK
38. PULP FICTION
50. ROYAL TENENBAUMS, THE
52. TRISTRAM SHANDY: A COCK & BULL STORY
57. GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS
69. THE RETURN
70. FITZCARRALDO
81. THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY?


You've got lots I haven't seen, probably more than anyone else's list:

15. RULES OF ATTRACTION, THE
16. BLOW
17. WAY OF THE GUN, THE
19. ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD, THE
20. BRONSON
32. GATTACA
33. WONDERLAND
35. SEXY BEAST
37. WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY, THE
40. PROPOSITION, THE
41. EXPERIMENT, DAS
43. TAPE
45. HIGHBALL
51. BUFFALO '66
54. THIS IS ENGLAND
56. JCVD
58. RKO 281
59. LENNY
60. DREAMERS, THE
62. UNDER SUSPICION
66. I HEART HUCKABEES
68. ...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL
71. IMMORTAL BELOVED
73. SCUM
75. LAST MINUTE, THE
76. FOLLOWING
77. LIFE & DEATH OF PETER SELLERS, THE
78. HIGHER LEARNING
79. INTACTO
86. SUGAR
87. STANDER
91. NINE QUEENS
93. LIVING IN OBLIVION
96. DEVIL IN A BLUE DRESS (started this once, only got halfway through... need to give it another go)
97. LOLITA
98. PLEASANTVILLE
99. SUNSHINE STATE
100. SEPTEMBER TAPES
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on August 01, 2011, 04:28:58 PM
Got started on the top 100 business today... finished stage 1: put last year's list  in a spreadsheet, created a new column called "not feelin' it this year" and went down the list ticking off the faders. Here's what I'm saying goodbye to:

11   Deep Water
36   Once Upon a Time in the West
41   The Dark Knight
45   Wall-E
54   Commando
55   White Men Can't Jump
59   Vicky Cristina Barcelona
68   The Kid Stays In the Picture
73   Rambo
74   Full Metal Jacket
76   GoodFellas
82   Zoolander
87   Scent of a Woman
90   Rio Bravo
92   The Shootist
93   Criminal
95   Revolutionary Road
97   Wayne's World
98   Private parts
100   The Bourne Supremacy

fallen off because my initial enthusiasm has waned (some after a second/third viewing, others after one).
has become overly familiar after numerous viewings and the prospect of watching it again no longer excites me like it used to
At this moment I'm not in love with it and the reasons I had for including it before are forgotten to me now. Not motivated to reexamine the situation at this time.

That makes room for 20 new entries, and maybe more depending on the strength of the last year of movie watching.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on August 01, 2011, 04:33:29 PM
Lots of interesting picks. This one caught my eye. I don't believe I've ever heard it mentioned on the boards before. I like a good courtroom drama, would this fit the bill?

62. UNDER SUSPICION
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6147/5997452474_8854a2f67b_m.jpg)

Also good to see Stander make a list. I liked that one.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 01, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
Got started on the top 100 business today... finished stage 1: put the films in a spreadsheet, created a new column called "not feelin' it this year" and went down the list ticking off the faders. Here's what I'm saying goodbye to:

36   Once Upon a Time in the West
97   Wayne's World

Party on, Wayne.  :'(

Also, I hope you revisit OUATITW, especially now that it's on bluray. It grew on me a lot more on the second viewing.

Ha! Like in the frat-boy sense?

Yeah, sort of.  It's a lot of movies about guys being tough or dealing with intense situations.  There aren't a whole of female leads in your selections.  I don't want to be dismissive or do too much generalizing, but it just strikes me as "stuff a typical guy likes".  It's very testosterone-y.  Like, it struck me that a bunch of your screenshots feature men with guns (often pointed at the viewer) or clearly about to kick some kind of ass.
I wasn't going to say that, but I got a bit of that vibe from the list. I'm not judging it or anything, it's just the antithesis of what I like in film. Still, an interesting list with a good amount of films I really like. Always intrigued by what other users love.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 01, 2011, 04:42:05 PM
Lots of interesting picks. This one caught my eye. I don't believe I've ever heard it mentioned on the boards before. I like a good courtroom drama, would this fit the bill?

Not courtroom, interrogation. But I think you'd get a similar thrill: Hackman/Freeman play off each other so damn well!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on August 01, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
Also, I hope you revisit OUATITW, especially now that it's on bluray. It grew on me a lot more on the second viewing.

Owning the blu would certainly motivate me.

It's probably a very OCD reaction or something, like locking your car door, closing the door, and then lifting up on the handle before you walk away. Why wouldn't it be locked? Why doubt the mechinism? And yet...
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: michael x on August 01, 2011, 05:06:25 PM
Lots of interesting picks. This one caught my eye. I don't believe I've ever heard it mentioned on the boards before. I like a good courtroom drama, would this fit the bill?

Not courtroom, interrogation. But I think you'd get a similar thrill: Hackman/Freeman play off each other so damn well!

Oh, I've seen this one! It was pretty good. Sorry, I don't remember more - it was probably about 5 years ago.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on August 01, 2011, 05:45:41 PM
The Blu-Ray transfer is really controversial, but I loved it.
How so?

Quote
In a new HD featurette, , Friedkin demonstrates his revisionist rationale. He wanted to mute the colors and retain a lot more grain, yet not lose the sharpness of Roizman's images. To that end he had his colorist create an element that oversaturated and de-focused the color. This smeary color image was very lightly superimposed over a B&W rendering of the film, resulting in a sharp, grainy movie with pastel colors. Because the colors are de-focused, they don't stay strictly "within the lines" of objects. Gene Hackman is as sharp as a tack, but his red Santa Claus suit bleeds softly all around him. Blacks clog up at night with almost a hi-con look. New York appears cold and inhospitable. It's an interesting effect that indeed achieves Friedkin's stated goal of creating a degraded color image. And he makes no bones about stating that it'll stay that way because that's the way he likes it!

From dvdtalk.com (http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s2838conn.html)

There's lots of other commentary about it, pro and con, out there.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 01, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
The Blu-Ray transfer is really controversial, but I loved it.
How so?

Quote
In a new HD featurette, , Friedkin demonstrates his revisionist rationale. He wanted to mute the colors and retain a lot more grain, yet not lose the sharpness of Roizman's images. To that end he had his colorist create an element that oversaturated and de-focused the color. This smeary color image was very lightly superimposed over a B&W rendering of the film, resulting in a sharp, grainy movie with pastel colors. Because the colors are de-focused, they don't stay strictly "within the lines" of objects. Gene Hackman is as sharp as a tack, but his red Santa Claus suit bleeds softly all around him. Blacks clog up at night with almost a hi-con look. New York appears cold and inhospitable. It's an interesting effect that indeed achieves Friedkin's stated goal of creating a degraded color image. And he makes no bones about stating that it'll stay that way because that's the way he likes it!

From dvdtalk.com (http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s2838conn.html)

There's lots of other commentary about it, pro and con, out there.
I don't like the sound of that at all. I found Roizman's comments very interesting in the Poughkeepsie Shuffle documentary; he didn't seem to see eye to eye with Friedkin on set either.

Anyway, here's one of the last Top 100s I made, way back in March 2004: click (http://idfilm.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=741&page=1#3377).
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 01, 2011, 06:25:18 PM
You've got lots I haven't seen, probably more than anyone else's list:

19. ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD, THE
35. SEXY BEAST
37. WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY, THE
73. SCUM
96. DEVIL IN A BLUE DRESS (started this once, only got halfway through... need to give it another go)
All great films worth seeing. The first one is one of the finest of the century so far. I'd really like to see the last one again.

I like some of the others too.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: oneaprilday on August 02, 2011, 12:42:48 AM
12. 24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE
18. LA HAINE
37. WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY, THE
54. THIS IS ENGLAND
Great to see these on your list, AAAutin!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: StudentOFilm on August 02, 2011, 01:46:41 AM
I just finished my list as well (I'll also post in Top Films of All Time thread, I just want to double check some things first)...

Copied and pasted from my blog...

Quote from: StudentOFilm
Ranking is sometimes a tough thing to do. Ultimately I could go back and forth on whether I like one film over another.

That being said, list making is fun. I get to let people know what films are personal to me. Films that I like for my own personal reasons. That being said, I'm more modern with my list. I guess I just connect more with recent films and find myself admiring the classics with a different sensibility (don't worry, a few made my list).

You'll see I grouped certain films by the same director as I just find myself associating their works with each other for whatever odd reason my brain is telling me to do so. See my groupings of Coppola and Lumet for what I mean... perhaps I can't imagine one of their films existing without the others.

1. Schindler's List (1993, Steven Spielberg)
2. American Beauty (1999, Sam Mendes)
3. Magnolia (1999, Paul Thomas Anderson)
4. The Ice Storm (1997, Ang Lee)
5. The Godfather Part II (1974, Francis Ford Coppola)
6. The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola)
7. Apocalypse Now (1979, Francis Ford Coppola)
8. Adaptation (2002, Spike Jonze)
9. All That Jazz (1979, Bob Fosse)
10. The Lives of Others (2006, Florian Henckel Von Donnersmarck)
11. Amadeus (1984, Milos Forman)
12. Paths of Glory (1957, Stanley Kubrick)
13. City of God (2002, Fernando Meirelles)
14. Children of Men (2006, Alfonso Cuaron)
15. LA Confidential (1997, Curtis Hanson)
16. On the Waterfront (1954, Elia Kazan)
17. Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
18. Network (1976, Sidney Lumet)
19. Dog Day Afternoon (1975, Sidney Lumet)
20. 12 Angry Men (1957, Sidney Lumet)
21. The Verdict (1982, Sidney Lumet)
22. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007, Sidney Lumet)
23. Taxi Driver (1976, Martin Scorsese)
24. Bonnie and Clyde (1967, Arthur Penn)
25. Alien (1979, Ridley Scott)
26. Big Fish (2003, Tim Burton)
27. Oldboy (2003, Park Chan-wook)
28. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004, Michel Gondry)
29. Pan's Labyrinth (2006, Guillermo Del Toro)
30. Munich (2005, Steven Spielberg)
31. The Insider (1999, Michael Mann)
32. Michael Clayton (2007, Tony Gilroy)
33. Traffic (2000, Steven Soderbergh)
34. Finding Neverland (2004, Marc Forster)
35. A History of Violence (2005, David Cronenberg)
36. Fight Club (1999, David Fincher)
37. Born on the Fourth of July (1989, Oliver Stone)
38. Quiz Show (1994, Robert Redford)
39. Glengarry Glen Ross (1992, James Foley)
40. The Constant Gardener (2005, Fernando Meirelles)
41. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957, David Lean)
42. The Departed (2006, Martin Scorsese)
43. No Country for Old Men (2007, Ethan Coen and Joel Coen)
44. Black Hawk Down (2001, Ridley Scott)
45. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977, Steven Spielberg)
46. Wall-E (2008, Andrew Stanton)
47. Touch of Evil (1958, Orson Welles)
48. It Happened One Night (1933, Frank Capra)
49. All the President's Men (1976, Alan J. Pakula)
50. The Last Picture Show (1971, Peter Bogdanovich)
51. The Shawshank Redemption (1994, Frank Darabont)
52. The Social Network (2010, David Fincher)
53. Reds (1981, Warren Beatty)
54. JFK (1991, Oliver Stone)
55. The Prestige (2006, Christopher Nolan)
56. Good Night and Good Luck (2005, George Clooney)
57. Badlands (1973, Terrence Malick)
58. Children of Paradise (1945, Marcel Carne)
59. Beauty and the Beast (1991, Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise)
60. Ordinary People (1980, Robert Redford)
61. The Lion King (1994, Roger Allers and Robert Minkoff)
62. The Truman Show (1998, Peter Weir)
63. Toy Story (1995, John Lasseter)
64. The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985, Woody Allen)
65. Broadcast News (1987, James L. Brooks)
66. Walk the Line (2005, James Mangold)
67. Road to Perdition (2002, Sam Mendes)
68. Casino Royale (2006, Martin Campbell)
69. Dead Man Walking (1995, Sean Penn)
70. District 9 (2009, Neill Blomkamp)
71. 3:10 to Yuma (2007, James Mangold)
72. Collateral (2004, Michael Mann)
73. The Matrix (1999, Andy Wachowski and Larry Wachowski)
74. In Bruges (2008, Martin McDonaugh)
75. Heat (1995, Michael Mann)
76. The Silence of the Lambs (1991, Jonathan Demme)
77. Fargo (1996, Ethan Coen and Joel Coen)
78. Reservoir Dogs (1992, Quentin Tarantino)
79. Night of the Living Dead (1968, George Romero)
80. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981, Steven Spielberg)
81. Jaws (1975, Steven Spielberg)
82. Three Kings (1999, David O. Russell)
83. The French Connection (1971, William Friedkin)
84. The Long Goodbye (1975, Robert Altman)
85. Lone Star (1996, John Sayles)
86. The Proposition (2005, John Hillcoat)
87. Missing (1982, Costa Gavras)
88. Minority Report (2002, Steven Spielberg)
89. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (2001, Steven Spielberg)
90. The Thing (1982, John Carpenter)
91. Mystic River (2003, Clint Eastwood)
92. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969, George Roy Hill)
93. The Wild Bunch (1969, Sam Peckinpah)
94. Ocean's Eleven (2001, Steven Soderbergh)
95. Knocked Up (2007, Judd Apatow)
96. Borat (2006, Larry Charles)
97. Finding Nemo (2003, Andrew Stanton)
98. The 40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Judd Apatow)
99. Superbad (2007, Greg Mottola)
100. Awakenings (1990, Penny Marshall)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 02, 2011, 09:17:46 AM
53. Reds (1981, Warren Beatty)

Yes, yes, yes. Fantastic film! (Save for a woefully miscast Jack Nicholson.)

87. Missing (1982, Costa Gavras)
100. Awakenings (1990, Penny Marshall)

These don't get talked about often enough.

Solid picks, all around!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 02, 2011, 09:32:23 AM
SoF, you and I have very different tastes, but you've got some pretty good movies there, and I especially like these:

7. Apocalypse Now (1979, Francis Ford Coppola)
9. All That Jazz (1979, Bob Fosse)
11. Amadeus (1984, Milos Forman)
12. Paths of Glory (1957, Stanley Kubrick)
17. Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles)
18. Network (1976, Sidney Lumet)
23. Taxi Driver (1976, Martin Scorsese)
25. Alien (1979, Ridley Scott)
28. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004, Michel Gondry)
39. Glengarry Glen Ross (1992, James Foley)
41. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957, David Lean)
42. The Departed (2006, Martin Scorsese)
45. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977, Steven Spielberg)
46. Wall-E (2008, Andrew Stanton)
47. Touch of Evil (1958, Orson Welles)
48. It Happened One Night (1933, Frank Capra)
60. Ordinary People (1980, Robert Redford)
77. Fargo (1996, Ethan Coen and Joel Coen)
80. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981, Steven Spielberg)
81. Jaws (1975, Steven Spielberg)


You're pretty big on recent films, and I saw very few non-English films.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on August 02, 2011, 10:57:24 AM
Everyone knows the best films are recent and American! ;D

My top three is in your top-20, SoF, so I can have no complaints. But I'm gonna pull out Black Hawk Down because that is a great film that isn't sufficiently appreciated.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: StudentOFilm on August 02, 2011, 01:38:29 PM
The scale of both Reds and Black Hawk Down is very impressive and I love the characters in both. I think Reds is my favorite performance by Beatty.

And yeah, I just seem to connect more with recent films. A lot of these are from when I started getting into film, but even then, I'll watch an older film that is acclaimed and really appreciate the craft and even my emotional response will be one of admiration, but I sometimes just don't connect with them on the same level as I do something like Magnolia or American Beauty. Then an occasional film from the 40s or 30s comes along in my queue that I'm just smitten with like Children of Paradise or It Happened One Night.

As for non-English films. That is just a category I need to keep working on.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: oneaprilday on August 02, 2011, 04:49:45 PM
Nice to see some love for these!

34. Finding Neverland (2004, Marc Forster)
38. Quiz Show (1994, Robert Redford)
90. The Thing (1982, John Carpenter)
100. Awakenings (1990, Penny Marshall)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: oldkid on August 03, 2011, 12:40:50 PM
Great list, SoF!  You and I have so many similar that I'm not going to list them all here.  Pretty much everything you have would either make my top 200 or I'd seriously consider for the list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Mike Shutt on August 03, 2011, 12:42:58 PM
My new list for the year can be found HERE (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.msg614386#msg614386). Enjoy!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on August 03, 2011, 02:50:55 PM
First run through has the list at 270, and I haven't even though about starting to rank them.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: michael x on August 03, 2011, 03:09:21 PM
I've collected and sorted my top 78. The last 22 will be pretty tricky - there's probably 80 or 90 films I could put in there, and that's not even considering the 10 or so films I really want to watch before I turn my list in.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on August 03, 2011, 08:28:02 PM
It seems insane that all these great films DIDN'T make my list. (http://bit.ly/ojMdwg)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on August 03, 2011, 09:01:01 PM
Heh dang, I think half my top 100 is contained in your HM list! :D Here's hoping the other half is in your top 100 proper.
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Post by: Corndog on August 03, 2011, 09:34:55 PM
Of course they are, where else would they be?
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Post by: smirnoff on August 03, 2011, 10:05:43 PM
Best case scenario? In your list of shame :)
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Post by: Corndog on August 03, 2011, 10:38:03 PM
Best case scenario? In your list of shame :)

I am willing to offer you a deal. Any movie that is in your Top 100 and not in my Honorable Mention or actual Top 100, special marathon brought to you by smirnoff.

And if there is something there I have seen, I owe you an explanation, which I fear there might be some.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 04, 2011, 12:18:27 AM
Best case scenario? In your list of shame :)

I am willing to offer you a deal. Any movie that is in your Top 100 and not in my Honorable Mention or actual Top 100, special marathon brought to you by smirnoff.

Will you do the same for me too?

Boy, that'd be a hell of a thing if we all agreed to marathon each other's top 100 ballots.  On AAAutin's alone there's like 30-40 I haven't seen.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on August 04, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
Sadly I cannot agree to do it with you Martin, I don't have time, well the courage really, to watch 89 movies I've never heard of.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sandy on August 04, 2011, 01:03:18 AM
AAAutin, your list is fascinating. The only film that I have on my top 100 list that's on your list is Gattaca. It makes sense, since I have been observing that my list is decidedly girlie!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on August 04, 2011, 07:08:12 AM
Best case scenario? In your list of shame :)

I am willing to offer you a deal. Any movie that is in your Top 100 and not in my Honorable Mention or actual Top 100, special marathon brought to you by smirnoff.

And if there is something there I have seen, I owe you an explanation, which I fear there might be some.

That's a mighty generous offer. I don't want to hold you to it in case the task proves too large (though you're no stranger to such marathons)... I'd be happy if the films in question simply received strong consideration for future viewing :)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: AAAutin on August 04, 2011, 07:33:44 AM
AAAutin, your list is fascinating. The only film that I have on my top 100 list that's on your list is Gattaca. It makes sense, since I have been observing that my list is decidedly girlie!

I think your list and my list should get together to make a baby list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Junior on August 04, 2011, 07:53:12 AM
Baby Geniuses 1 and 2, Look Who's Talking, Babies, Baby's Day Out, Three Men and a Baby... The list goes on forever!
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Post by: Corndog on August 04, 2011, 08:55:40 AM
(though you're no stranger to such marathons)

Tell me about it. Luckily I just do the Directors whenever I can and without pace, so technically I only have the Bond one on right now, which is one a week. Though I do still want to do that ESPN 30 for 30 eventually too.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sandy on August 04, 2011, 09:29:07 AM
I think your list and my list should get together to make a baby list.

  :o    Project Mayhem meets Austenland! What could go wrong?
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Post by: AAAutin on August 04, 2011, 02:32:42 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/6009614374_742b375fea_m.jpg)

Jane Austen's Fight Club (http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/4654)
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Post by: Sandy on August 04, 2011, 06:52:47 PM
What a beautiful baby! I'd watch that. Seriously AAAutin, the fact that this exists and you found it is too good!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 05, 2011, 04:55:49 PM
I wrote a few lines on the blog I edit on this poll.

>>> When all before you is barren... (http://idfilm.blogspot.com/2011/08/when-all-before-you-is-barren.html)

Quote
It recalls a friend's amusing comment a few years back, after I'd referred to several films that night as "Top 5 material" or something similar."How many films are in your Top 5," she asked, "so far you've listed about ten!" So so far, I've been considering films by asking how I'd rate them on an instinctive basis: Top 100 contender? Top 50? Top 20? Top 10? Is it my favourite film? (No, unless it's The French Connection.)
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Post by: MP on August 05, 2011, 06:51:31 PM
Is the first Heimat film (or any of the others for that matter) eligible?
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Post by: MartinTeller on August 05, 2011, 07:03:43 PM
Is the first Heimat film (or any of the others for that matter) eligible?

I believe it was a miniseries first, so I would think not.  Great pick, though.
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Post by: MP on August 05, 2011, 07:21:02 PM
Is the feature-length pilot of Twin Peaks eligible?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 05, 2011, 07:29:55 PM
Television demeans all of us, and sullies this thread.
(http://www.cinecon.com/frontimages/2168-videodrome1.jpg)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: mañana on August 05, 2011, 07:31:53 PM
I rest my case.  :P
:D

"Rules" - pshaw.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 05, 2011, 08:20:40 PM
I have between 70 and 80 films "locked" and about 104 in contention. Obviously the latter might chuck a few of the former out. At present I've made instinctive labels of "Top 50" and "Top 100", from which I'll make approximate sets according to the ranking tier (it's not going to be fully ranked 1-100).

I'm gonna try and devise some kind of schedule so I might get through watching the majority of the contenders. 11 are on 'high priority' rental; three more are ready to stream. I own 90, either on DVD and VHS. I expect I'll be able to butcher a lot as I start to make my way through them, but as a starting point I'm keeeping an open mind.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 05, 2011, 08:24:18 PM
FWIW, I rate around 850+ films 4/5 or higher. That was my initial pool, though it was very easy to eliminate a lot of them.
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Post by: ferris on August 06, 2011, 05:17:53 AM
Although I have been quite absent from the Boards lately...I have made it a personal commitment to continue pushing for Close Encounters to crack the top 100. 

My list has not be updated in a while.  I think the only big change from last year is I have to figure out a way to squeeze True Grit in there.  Currently 96 - 100 are:

96 Aliens
97 Yi Yi
98 The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
99 Purple Rose of Cairo
100 Blade Runner (Final Cut)

Wow rough choice here...might have to dig deeper.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Junior on August 08, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
Well, we all know that Aliens is horrible. It should not be on anybody's list.
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Post by: Melvil on August 08, 2011, 03:34:51 PM
Booooo!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on August 08, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
I have between 70 and 80 films "locked" and about 104 in contention. Obviously the latter might chuck a few of the former out. At present I've made instinctive labels of "Top 50" and "Top 100", from which I'll make approximate sets according to the ranking tier (it's not going to be fully ranked 1-100).

I'm gonna try and devise some kind of schedule so I might get through watching the majority of the contenders. 11 are on 'high priority' rental; three more are ready to stream. I own 90, either on DVD and VHS. I expect I'll be able to butcher a lot as I start to make my way through them, but as a starting point I'm keeeping an open mind.

Gosh. You guys are so incredibly serious about this. I feel totally like a fraud with my rather random list. But I'll blame my newbishness. I'll make a better effort for next year.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Junior on August 08, 2011, 03:49:28 PM
Fret not, Lobby! My lists are often mostly random. We're just glad you made a list.
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Post by: smirnoff on August 08, 2011, 04:06:10 PM
Word, I'm dying to see it.

Oh I did see it, and it was goooood ;)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: ses on August 08, 2011, 05:57:47 PM
Well, we all know that Aliens is horrible. It should not be on anybody's list.

You know you are never going to win this battle.

Game over man, game over.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Mike Shutt on August 08, 2011, 06:21:11 PM
Well, we all know that Aliens is horrible. It should not be on anybody's list.

This is so very true.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on August 15, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
Which films from last year's top 10 stay and appear in the upcoming top 10?  Which ones drop out from the top 10?  Bonus: post your prediction for spots 1 to 10.

Last year's top 10:

1. The Godfather
2. Casablanca
3. OUATITW (Leone)
4. ESOTSM (Gondry)
5. Singin' in the Rain
6. Pulp Fiction
7. Citizen Kane
8. Seven Samurai
9. Fargo
10. The Big Lebowski
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: munchin on August 16, 2011, 02:49:42 PM
I would wager that Fargo may have some upward mobility, based on where it's situated on my list, which I am still refining.  ;)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on August 16, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
Gogogo ESOTSM!

Casablanca is a bit overrated, isn't it? Sure, it's on my 100 list since I used to fill my walls with Bogart posters when I was a teenager and I have some nostalgic feelings for it somehow. But the second best movie? Wouldn't say so.
I suppose it ends up this way since so many filmspotters have it SOMEWHERE on their top 100 list, even though in many cases further down. But it adds up.
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Post by: Corndog on August 16, 2011, 03:43:48 PM
I have seen all of those, and like all of them, but only 5 actually made my list this year.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: michael x on August 16, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
I think Rear Window may do quite well this year.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on August 16, 2011, 04:19:40 PM
Casablanca is a bit overrated, isn't it?

Yup.  I have it only at #3.
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Post by: Sandy on August 16, 2011, 04:56:41 PM
Casablanca is a bit overrated, isn't it?

Yup.  I have it only at #3.
;D
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 16, 2011, 07:24:47 PM
Casablanca is a bit overrated, isn't it?

Yup.  I have it only at #3.
This made me laugh.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on August 16, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
Casablanca is a bit overrated, isn't it?

Yup.  I have it only at #3.

You, sir, are outrageous. Lobby is right, it is no better than the 10th best film ever made!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on August 16, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
Last year's top 10:
1. The Godfather
2. Casablanca
3. OUATITW (Leone)
4. ESOTSM (Gondry)
5. Singin' in the Rain
6. Pulp Fiction
7. Citizen Kane
8. Seven Samurai
9. Fargo
10. The Big Lebowski


Casablanca is the least overrated of the bunch, and while none of these are in my true top-100 (Casablanca is barely outside that), it is the only one that makes my ballot. Once again the rest of you need to stop liking bad movies and start liking the movies that I like. 8)
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on August 16, 2011, 08:39:08 PM
Honestly, if you don't at least enjoy Singin' in the Rain, I can't accept you as a fellow human being.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on August 16, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
Only the reds are films I dislike. Orange would be dislike as well but nothing fell into that zone.
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Post by: Corndog on August 16, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
It's still close enough for me.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 16, 2011, 09:07:16 PM
Honestly, if you don't at least enjoy Singin' in the Rain, I can't accept you as a fellow human being.

I'm not entirely convinced Bondo is a human being.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: ses on August 16, 2011, 09:09:29 PM
I think Sunrise might shoot up the list this year because a lot more people have seen it because of the List of Shame
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 16, 2011, 09:25:11 PM
I would be happy with this. I do know a good number of it have Sunrise very high on our top 100s.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on August 16, 2011, 09:45:42 PM
I watched it because of List of Shame and enjoyed it quite a bit, but it failed to make my list, though it was in consideration as it probably will be every year from here on out.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on August 16, 2011, 11:00:33 PM
This is my first year with Sunrise and the equally popular Passion of Joan of Arc in my Top 100. I also have The Last Laugh, which I hope has enough support around here as well.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on August 17, 2011, 02:04:11 AM
Sunrise has been 10, 7 and 6 for me the last three years.  I see no reason why it won't place that high again.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on August 17, 2011, 02:17:57 AM
Honestly, if you don't at least enjoy Singin' in the Rain, I can't accept you as a fellow human being.

I'm not entirely convinced Bondo is a human being.

Yes this is a giant Turing test and Bondo is an AI trying to pass for human. If he ever says 'let me tell you about my mother' run and hide.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Flicker on August 19, 2011, 03:54:32 PM
This looks fun.  I'm enjoying all the creative forms of lists exhibited in the All Time list thread.  My dream list presentation would be to also make a video compilation and have Herzog in voice over reading my capsule reviews for each film!  Alas, the most I can do this year is include screen caps with my list.  Hopefully, I'll get it done before the deadline.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Flicker on August 19, 2011, 04:03:14 PM
Anyway, here's one of the last Top 100s I made, way back in March 2004: click (http://idfilm.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=741&page=1#3377).

How different from your 2004 list is your current list looking, MP?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: harveyzissou on August 19, 2011, 07:55:29 PM
sept. 4th here i come :)  -- first top 100 for me.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MP on August 25, 2011, 09:05:52 PM
Anyway, here's one of the last Top 100s I made, way back in March 2004: click (http://idfilm.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=741&page=1#3377).

How different from your 2004 list is your current list looking, MP?
Sorry Flicker, I just saw this now.

I have 23 entries or so from the 2004 list still hanging about. Besides The French Connection, only 1 Top 10 entry remains in the Top 10 (while another three have entered it).

I still have a few films to revisit.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on August 29, 2011, 07:21:36 AM
Come on, people, submit those lists and post them up in the other thread!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: ferris on August 29, 2011, 09:41:09 AM
Come on, people, submit those lists and post them up in the other thread!

Mine's coming today or tomorrow. 
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on August 29, 2011, 01:54:10 PM
No move for Close Encounters I hope.

Hey Ferris what did you think of Super 8 (on the same subject ;D)?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on August 29, 2011, 01:55:06 PM
Only 723 left to rank!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: ferris on August 29, 2011, 02:55:34 PM
No move for Close Encounters I hope.

Hey Ferris what did you think of Super 8 (on the same subject ;D)?

Haven't seen it yet, but I've heard that I should!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 29, 2011, 03:48:50 PM
I've gotta watch this one last film before I make mine. I imagine it will be up sometime Wednesday Night or Thursday morning.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: harveyzissou on August 31, 2011, 02:18:21 PM
made my list...started a countdown on my blog.

i guess i have to fill out that poll form for my top 100 and submit it :)

cheers,

p.s. i'm sad that annie hall, babe, infernal affairs 2, paranoid park, pauline at the beach, the royal tenenbaums, scott pilgrim, through the olive trees, two lovers, and une air de famille didn't make it.  :(
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on August 31, 2011, 04:38:35 PM
I didn't really know where else to put this... if anyone has a better idea, I'll move it.

I felt "bad" that my favorite genre, film noir, was underrepresented in my top 100, so I wanted to do a "top 100 noir".  There's a lot of the obvious choices, but I think some lesser-known gems as well.  For my definition of noir, I followed the same guidelines as the 250 Quintessential Noir Films (http://theyshootpictures.com/noir250noirs1.htm) list, namely:

1) They were all produced in the United States;   
2) They were all shot in black-and-white;   
3) They were all produced between 1940 to 1959.

As in their list, there are a few exceptions.  And there's a hell of a lot of crossover with that list, but consider this a "best of the quintessential" (IMHO) with a few extras thrown in.   I probably spent way too much time putting this list together and gathering all the screenshots, but it's done and here it is, in alphabetical order.

1. 14 Hours (Henry Hathaway, 1951)
(http://i.imgur.com/eNR77.jpg)

2. 99 River Street (Phil Karlson, 1953)
(http://i.imgur.com/fG7na.jpg)

3. Act of Violence (Fred Zinnemann, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/rmMQo.jpg)

4. The Asphalt Jungle (John Huston, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/1Bjc6.jpg)

5. Beyond the Forest (King Vidor, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/QGE9Z.jpg)

6. The Big Combo (Joseph H. Lewis, 1955)
(http://i.imgur.com/yalq2.jpg)

7. Blast of Silence (Allen Baron, 1961)
(http://i.imgur.com/reIMA.jpg)

8. Border Incident (Anthony Mann, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/388a4.jpg)

9. The Breaking Point (Michael Curtiz, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/Sy3pQ.jpg)

10. The Burglar (Paul Wendkos, 1957)
(http://i.imgur.com/OU5KH.jpg)

11. Cape Fear (J. Lee Thompson, 1961)
(http://i.imgur.com/xHvIa.png)

12. Champion (Mark Robson, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/9d0xK.jpg)

13. The Chase (Arthur Ripley, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/wllsP.jpg)

14. Cornered (Edward Dmytryk, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/yVsjS.png)

15. The Crimson Kimono (Sam Fuller, 1959)
(http://i.imgur.com/BqCT7.png)

16. Criss Cross (Robert Siodmak, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/MtiNh.jpg)

17. Cry of the City (Robert Siodmak, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/g9F9A.png)

18. Dark Waters (Andre De Toth, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/IlSRB.jpg)

19. Dead Reckoning (John Cromwell, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/qeGhi.jpg)

20. The Desperate Hours (William Wyler, 1955)
(http://i.imgur.com/44LZs.jpg)

21. Detour (Edgar G. Ulmer, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/5qsJg.jpg)

22. Don't Bother to Knock (Roy Ward Baker, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/fuqGE.jpg)

23. Double Indemnity (Billy Wilder, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/QjNoY.jpg)

24. Edge of Doom (Mark Robson, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/LKHP3.jpg)

25. Fallen Angel (Otto Preminger, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/u23av.jpg)

26. Force of Evil (Abraham Polonsky, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/o6Sog.jpg)

27. Gaslight (George Cukor, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/D2YSu.jpg)

28. Gilda (Charles Vidor, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/kO5bC.jpg)

29. Gun Crazy (Joseph H. Lewis, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/lfi7I.jpg)

30. Hangover Square (John Brahm, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/yrwYu.jpg)

31. High Wall (Curtis Bernhardt, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/aN25l.jpg)

32. The Hitch-Hiker (Ida Lupino, 1953)
(http://i.imgur.com/Is39K.jpg)

33. Human Desire (Fritz Lang, 1954)
(http://i.imgur.com/tksy1.jpg)

34. I Walk Alone (Byron Haskin, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/JoXrt.jpg)

35. Journey Into Fear (Norman Foster, 1942)
(http://i.imgur.com/eroCT.jpg)

36. Kansas City Confidential (Phil Karlson, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/pOMxD.png)

37. The Killing (Stanley Kubrick, 1956)
(http://i.imgur.com/U1yyt.jpg)

38. Kiss of Death (Henry Hathaway, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/EetKk.jpg)

39. The Lady from Shanghai (Orson Welles, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/T1Ijz.jpg)

40. Laura (Otto Preminger, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/vnL74.jpg)

41. Leave Her to Heaven (John M. Stahl, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/nZ1Je.jpg)

42. The Lineup (Don Siegel, 1958)
(http://i.imgur.com/z90DU.jpg)

43. The Locket (John Brahm, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/453yQ.jpg)

44. The Lodger (John Brahm, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/uFeqC.jpg)

45. The Maltese Falcon (John Huston, 1941)
(http://i.imgur.com/NjIux.jpg)

46. The Mob (Robert Parrish, 1951)
(http://i.imgur.com/86gCf.jpg)

47. Moonrise (Frank Borzage, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/CG6Ea.png)

48. Murder By Contract (Irving Lerner, 1958)
(http://i.imgur.com/RCvEk.jpg)

49. My Name Is Julia Ross (Joseph H. Lewis, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/UMOnS.png)

50. Mystery Street (John Sturges, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/fGmfx.jpg)

51. The Narrow Margin (Richard Fleischer, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/DWeuJ.jpg)

52. Night and the City (Jules Dassin, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/BSJmj.jpg)

53. Night Editor (Henry Levin, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/iTeMT.jpg)

54. The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955)
(http://i.imgur.com/F2TZg.jpg)

55. Nightmare Alley (Edmund Goulding, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/pk0Ll.jpg)

56. No Way Out (Joseph L. Mankiewicz, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/YjSde.jpg)

57. Nocturne (Edwin L. Marin, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/jEivx.jpg)

58. Notorious (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/sm3Ed.jpg)

59. Odds Against Tomorrow (Robert Wise, 1959)
(http://i.imgur.com/sp16q.jpg)

60. One Way Street (Hugo Fregonese, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/0wugm.jpg)

61. Out of the Past (Jacques Tourneur, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/zOdy2.jpg)

62. Panic in the Streets (Elia Kazan, 1950)
(http://imgur.com/v7kmZ.jpg)

63. Phantom Lady (Robert Siodmak, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/HY04Y.jpg)

64. The Phenix City Story (Phil Karlson, 1955)
(http://i.imgur.com/hv1aj.jpg)

65. Pickup on South Street (Sam Fuller, 1953)
(http://i.imgur.com/4pxa4.jpg)

66. Plunder Road (Hubert Cornfield, 1957)
(http://i.imgur.com/9jJ9i.jpg)

67. Raw Deal (Anthony Mann, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/TTeYk.jpg)

68. The Red House (Delmer Daves, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/2SorV.png)

69. Ride the Pink Horse (Robert Montgomery, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/rmSlX.jpg)

70. Rogue Cop (Roy Rowland, 1954)
(http://i.imgur.com/zNlgM.jpg)

71. Scandal Sheet (Phil Karlson, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/pAykO.png)

72. The Scar/Hollow Triumph (Steve Sekely, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/i6f71.jpg)

73. Secret Beyond the Door (Fritz Lang, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/UAEfC.jpg)

74. The Set-Up (Robert Wise, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/av3cG.jpg)

75. Shadow of a Doubt (Alfred Hitchcock, 1943)
(http://i.imgur.com/zyPTj.jpg)

76. Side Street (Anthony Mann, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/xdkE8.jpg)

77. The Sniper (Edward Dmytryk, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/nW0jX.jpg)

78. The Strange Love of Martha Ivers (Lewis Milestone, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/4sMLm.jpg)

79. The Stranger (Orson Welles, 1946)
(http://i.imgur.com/349Bx.jpg)

80. Stranger on the Third Floor (Boris Ingster, 1940)
(http://i.imgur.com/7gW5k.jpg)

81. Sudden Fear (David Miller, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/XKL5T.png)

82. Sunset Blvd. (Billy Wilder, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/dNxZP.jpg)

83. Sweet Smell of Success (Alexander Mackendrick, 1957)
(http://i.imgur.com/A0T07.jpg)

84. They Live By Night (Nicholas Ray, 1948)
(http://i.imgur.com/uETgo.jpg)

85. They Made Me a Fugitive (Alberto Cavalcanti, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/dmMXt.jpg)

86. They Won't Believe Me (Irving Pichel, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/n4rG9.jpg)

87. The Thief (Russell Rouse, 1952)
(http://i.imgur.com/NbxW8.jpg)

88. Thieves' Highway (Jules Dassin, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/RXhsl.jpg)

89. The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/TdM9W.jpg)

90. T-Men (Anthony Mann, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/81F7d.jpg)

91. Too Late for Tears (Byron Haskin, 1949)
(http://i.imgur.com/C3E7S.jpg)

92. Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958)
(http://i.imgur.com/WXqsD.jpg)

93. Union Station (Rudolph Maté, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/WAjTv.png)

94. The Web (Michael Gordon, 1947)
(http://i.imgur.com/XGupy.jpg)

95. When Strangers Marry (William Castle, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/dZraF.jpg)

96. Where the Sidewalk Ends (Otto Preminger, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/J9aaH.png)

97. Witness to Murder (Roy Rowland, 1954)
(http://i.imgur.com/nudTj.png)

98. The Woman in the Window (Fritz Lang, 1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/tyrBz.png)

99. Woman on the Run (Norman Foster, 1950)
(http://i.imgur.com/VlH3m.jpg)

100. The Wrong Man (Alfred Hitchcock, 1956)
(http://i.imgur.com/QVPgm.jpg)
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Post by: sdedalus on August 31, 2011, 04:41:42 PM
Great list, even if you kept making me think "wait, why is that so low??"
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Post by: Junior on August 31, 2011, 04:42:00 PM
Top 50!
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Post by: smirnoff on August 31, 2011, 04:43:41 PM
Impressive list!
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Post by: 1SO on August 31, 2011, 05:01:12 PM
Nicely done, but Alphabetical? Bah.

If I PM you the ones I haven't seen will you Dictate to me a Top 5?
And is Double Indemnity your #1?
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Post by: MartinTeller on August 31, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
Nicely done, but Alphabetical? Bah.

I thought about ranking them, but I'd already put in more time on it that I planned to.  I guess I could do like a "top 50" and a "next 50" but screw it, I recommend all of them!

If I PM you the ones I haven't seen will you Dictate to me a Top 5?

Sure.

And is Double Indemnity your #1?

It's the highest on my personal top 100, so yeah.
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Post by: oneaprilday on August 31, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
Love the list!  I'm gonna have to bookmark it.
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Post by: Verite on August 31, 2011, 08:09:46 PM
I felt "bad" that my favorite genre, film noir, was underrepresented in my top 100, so I wanted to do a "top 100 noir".

Geez, lots of movies there I haven't seen.  Hopefully, I can get schooled and watch at least 10 of them by the end of the year.

I was going to say that it would've been better if you posted this list in perhaps a Top 5 Film Noir thread, but I searched and couldn't find one which is a huge surprise.
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Post by: Corndog on August 31, 2011, 10:23:45 PM
I'm surprised to have actually seen 10% of that list. I'll have to get on that.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 31, 2011, 10:36:15 PM
I've seen around 20-30 from the list. Like almost all of them. The exception is Sunset Blvd.  :P
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Post by: edgar00 on August 31, 2011, 10:58:10 PM
I've only seen 12 films from that list. I like the genre, so the list gives me plenty of suggesting of movies to watch next.
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Post by: MartinTeller on August 31, 2011, 11:17:38 PM
I've seen around 20-30 from the list. Like almost all of them. The exception is Sunset Blvd.  :P

I hesitated on Sunset Blvd.  I like it enough for the list, but I don't really like it as noir.  I feel the same way about Laura.  But they're so often referred to as noir that it would have been weird to exclude them. 
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 31, 2011, 11:20:12 PM
Yea, both have noir elements, but don't feel like noir to me. Then again, I'm don't think there's a very ridged understanding of noir to begin with. One could argue Cat People is more noir than Sunset Bvld. or Laura.
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Post by: MartinTeller on August 31, 2011, 11:27:50 PM
It's one of the fun things about the genre, everyone's got a different idea of what defines it.
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Post by: harveyzissou on September 01, 2011, 01:33:46 AM
@martin: i didn't see "the big heat"...is that not noir?  i like that one a lot.
i think i just like movies with whats-her-face[?]...hmmmm...gloria grahame!

@all: TOP 100, #90-81 up on my blog

cheers,
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Post by: ses on September 01, 2011, 01:34:27 AM
Here is my Top 100 for 2011 (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.msg621392#msg621392)
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 01, 2011, 10:01:04 AM
@martin: i didn't see "the big heat"...is that not noir?  i like that one a lot.
i think i just like movies with whats-her-face[?]...hmmmm...gloria grahame!

I love Gloria Grahame, but The Big Heat didn't make my top 100.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 01, 2011, 10:40:31 AM
I thought about doing a cool little breakdown for this next list of mine (cuz I'm friggin' mental), but I'm not sure how to denote which film goes to which country. There are so many joint ventures that I'm not even sure if I should count each country, or just the first country listed. How have people who've done this gone about it in the past?
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Post by: verbALs on September 01, 2011, 12:24:18 PM
@MT- good no The Big Sleep; however, no The Big Heat, Brute Force, The Glass Key or The Killers. I told you our tastes were different! 8) You can't include The Thin Man on this criteria but I don't think I know how you feel about it. Any comment?

I had 16 films I consider noir classics in my top 100, but of course my definition is completely weird.

How do you feel about Noir-vember 2?
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 01, 2011, 12:59:21 PM
@MT- good no The Big Sleep; however, no The Big Heat, Brute Force, The Glass Key or The Killers. I told you our tastes were different! 8) You can't include The Thin Man on this criteria but I don't think I know how you feel about it. Any comment?

I enjoyed Thin Man, but not enough to seek out the sequels.  I kind of have a pet peeve about alcohol/drunk humor, so it's to Thin Man's credit that it didn't completely annoy me.

How do you feel about Noir-vember 2?

I was just thinking about that as I drifted off to sleep last night, actually!  I'm inclined to do it, but two things give me pause:

1) By the end of last November, I was getting burnt out on noir.  While I like the "purity" of devoting an entire month to a genre, I might mix it up a little more this time

2) I've now seen all the "major" noirs, and I fear that a repeat of Noir-vember will be scraping the bottom of the barrel for me.  Still, there's bound to be some hidden gems, and maybe I'll chuck in a few neo-noirs (still need to see Devil in a Blue Dress) to keep it fresh
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Post by: Jared on September 01, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
I watched probably 20 noirs in Noirvember, and kept up a steady stream of 6-10 a month until the beginning of summer. Burnt out now, but Ill be ready to go in 2 months.

in like 36th on the Icheckmovies list. Wouldnt mind watching 25-30 more.
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Post by: Jared on September 01, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
How many top 100s have been recieved Wilson?
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Post by: Wilson on September 01, 2011, 01:20:51 PM
20 so far, but there's usually quite a late rush so I'm not too concerned.
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Post by: verbALs on September 01, 2011, 01:31:12 PM
Maybe change it up. Make Noir-vember a dictation month or summit?
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 01, 2011, 01:40:58 PM
Maybe change it up. Make Noir-vember a dictation month or summit?

I think most people would have a pretty hard time dictating a noir to me. 
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Post by: Bondo on September 01, 2011, 05:59:47 PM
Maybe they could find a neo-noir you haven't seen?

Anyway, I was gonna try to irk you by saying the oldest film I'd call noir from my essential films list is Miller's Crossing, but you consider Night of the Hunter to be noir so that is actually the oldest noir on my essential films with Miller's Crossing being second. I can't say Hunter struck me as very noir, which is perhaps part of why I liked it.
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Post by: tinyholidays on September 01, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
Anyway, I was gonna try to irk you by saying the oldest film I'd call noir from my essential films list is Miller's Crossing, but you consider Night of the Hunter to be noir so that is actually the oldest noir on my essential films with Miller's Crossing being second. I can't say Hunter struck me as very noir, which is perhaps part of why I liked it.

Yeah, that stuck out to me on the list too, Martin. I adore Night of the Hunter, but it doesn't have the same vibe as the other noir films with which I'm familiar. What for you makes it a factor on a top 100 noir list?
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Post by: sdedalus on September 01, 2011, 08:55:59 PM
We really should have a film noir thread somewhere.
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 01, 2011, 08:59:17 PM
Anyway, I was gonna try to irk you by saying the oldest film I'd call noir from my essential films list is Miller's Crossing, but you consider Night of the Hunter to be noir so that is actually the oldest noir on my essential films with Miller's Crossing being second. I can't say Hunter struck me as very noir, which is perhaps part of why I liked it.

Yeah, that stuck out to me on the list too, Martin. I adore Night of the Hunter, but it doesn't have the same vibe as the other noir films with which I'm familiar. What for you makes it a factor on a top 100 noir list?

It's borderline, but despite the somewhat surreal vibe, I think it fits.  Stark, high-contrast photography, man's darker side, evil comes to a small town, aura of doom (until the Lillian Gish part, at least, and even then at times).  It's along the same lines as Sunset Blvd and Laura, being a movie that doesn't really contain what I look for in a noir per se, but is so often lumped in with the genre (and is so damn good) that I give it a little leeway.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 02, 2011, 10:57:26 AM
Just submitted my list. Not sure when I'll make it public information. Probably Sunday.
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Post by: harveyzissou on September 02, 2011, 02:19:56 PM
me too...submitted my list last night/this morning. 
i'll post it in the other thread when i finish the countdown on my blog. :)

(should be soon, i've been posting two sets of ten (20) a day)

cheers,
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 04, 2011, 07:59:13 PM
Can Wilson give us a list of whose list he's received so far? I'm always paranoid that mine didn't make it through.
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Post by: Beavermoose on September 04, 2011, 08:12:48 PM
Holy crap this is for today. :/

I'm about half-way done my reconstruction.


Edit: If Wilson allows it i'll send mine in past the deadline. Aka tomorrow.
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Post by: jbissell on September 04, 2011, 11:14:27 PM
I just sent mine in, a few minutes past the deadline. Almost forgot!
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Post by: ferris on September 05, 2011, 08:52:56 AM
Can Wilson give us a list of whose list he's received so far? I'm always paranoid that mine didn't make it through.

Yeah me too!
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Post by: tinyholidays on September 05, 2011, 09:52:12 AM
Oh golly, I hope we get a spreadsheet of all the votes like we've had in the past. It has seriously been the most useful thing to me. I keep it in my google docs and delete movies as I watch them and make decisions on what I'm watch based from it and I love it.
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Post by: ferris on September 05, 2011, 10:00:57 AM
Oh golly, I hope we get a spreadsheet of all the votes like we've had in the past. It has seriously been the most useful thing to me. I keep it in my google docs and delete movies as I watch them and make decisions on what I'm watch based from it and I love it.

Yeah I love that spreadsheet.  It's so useful to have the vote counts in the different groupings - sometimes a film makes it because of really strong love by a few people and other times where a lot of people had it lower on their lists ("Once" seems like a good example of the latter)

This thought makes me wonder if anyone had ever attempted making a marathon out of the Filmspotter's Top 50 of the Decade list...
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Post by: THATguy on September 05, 2011, 10:49:29 AM
I went ahead and pieced together a list, and sent it in.  It might be too late, but I figured I should try anyways.
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Post by: Bondo on September 05, 2011, 12:14:28 PM
This thought makes me wonder if anyone had ever attempted making a marathon out of the Filmspotter's Top 50 of the Decade list...

I've seen every film that got placement on all of the final lists if that counts. I didn't go back and rewatch anything specific for the BotD. Of course we never released the more extensive ranking (since we didn't release any kind of ranked list) so people wouldn't be able to delve deeper.
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Post by: Lobby on September 05, 2011, 02:35:22 PM
Do we have an estimated time for when the result will be announced?
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Post by: Verite on September 05, 2011, 02:50:35 PM
Do we have an estimated time for when the result will be announced?

Last year, the compiled list was revealed 12 days after the submission deadline.  Don't know offhand about the other years.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on September 06, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
I received submissions from the following: (there is 3/4 in here that I didn't have the user names for, so my apologies for using real names).

toro913
bluevoid
edgar00
roujin
keith
thatguy
beavermoose
jbissell
fcm
srini
matt tmw
tinyholidays
Senor Javi
verbALs
GoldenPavillion
FLY
Ferris
dave the necrobumper
Junior
sdedalus
oneaprilday
Michael Pattinson
stevekimes
munchin
Sandy Jensen
sam
zissou
michael x
Flicker
ses
smirnoff
shadrik
studentoffilm
pixote
noke
bill thompson
Harrison Timmons
verite
bondo
jrod
gothamcity151
corndog
aaautin
shaw13
lobby
martin teller
1so
Wilson
Melvil

If you submitted a list, but aren't on the above names, please PM me with your list.

I'm not sure of exactly when the list will be posted, but it shouldn't be more than 10-14 days.

Thanks to everybody who voted!
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Post by: smirnoff on September 06, 2011, 12:02:26 PM
Solid turnout! Thanks Wilson!
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Post by: munchin on September 06, 2011, 12:31:19 PM
Cool! Thanks for doing the heavy lifting on this!
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Post by: Melvil on September 06, 2011, 02:53:43 PM
Wow, I really let this get away from me. I just hurriedly submitted a list in the hopes it isn't too late, but I'm going to save the public reveal until I actually have some time to work on and present it.
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Post by: ¡Keith! on September 06, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
Wow, I really let this get away from me. I just hurriedly submitted a list in the hopes it isn't too late, but I'm going to save the public reveal until I actually have some time to work on and present it.

QFT  ;)
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Post by: ferris on September 13, 2011, 06:44:19 AM
Lately every time I come to Filmspotting Forums it's in a panic that somehow I missed the announcement for the Top 100 countdown and it already happened! 

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Post by: Wilson on September 13, 2011, 03:15:50 PM
Been a busy week or so.

As of this moment, I'm looking at presenting the countdown on 3 seperate nights, next Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday.

It will definitely be up by Friday the 23rd at the latest.
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Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on September 17, 2011, 05:11:27 AM
We are all waiting with baited breath.
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Post by: tinyholidays on September 19, 2011, 04:35:36 PM
I am very excited for this!
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 19, 2011, 04:40:05 PM
I will probably miss Tuesday, possibly Thursday, but I will be here Wednesday!
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Post by: Corndog on September 19, 2011, 04:59:07 PM
Depending on what time I will probably miss at least parts of Wednesday/Thurday, but I always love sitting in chat and talking out favorite movies.
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Post by: oneaprilday on September 19, 2011, 06:54:57 PM
I will probably miss Tuesday, possibly Thursday, but I will be here Wednesday!
Same.  I teach Tues/Thurs evenings (starting tomorrow - aaack).   Looking forward to Wednesday though and the final list!
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Post by: Corndog on September 20, 2011, 05:31:56 PM
Been a busy week or so.

As of this moment, I'm looking at presenting the countdown on 3 seperate nights, next Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday.

It will definitely be up by Friday the 23rd at the latest.

Is this still happening tonight?
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Post by: michael x on September 20, 2011, 08:00:43 PM
Been a busy week or so.

As of this moment, I'm looking at presenting the countdown on 3 seperate nights, next Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday.

It will definitely be up by Friday the 23rd at the latest.

Is this still happening tonight?

Got home a few minutes ago with the same question. I definitely don't want to miss anything!
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Post by: Wilson on September 21, 2011, 06:09:57 AM
My sincere apologies everyone!

There was a bit of chaos at work last night, so I was unable to get home at a decent hour.

I still have the last handful of ballots to count, but look for the countdown to start around 5pm EST tonight.  It may be slightly later, but it should at least start tonight
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Post by: ferris on September 21, 2011, 07:25:33 AM
My sincere apologies everyone!

There was a bit of chaos at work last night, so I was unable to get home at a decent hour.

I still have the last handful of ballots to count, but look for the countdown to start around 5pm EST tonight.  It may be slightly later, but it should at least start tonight

Thanks for your hard work! Looking forward to it!  I have a borderline unhealthy excitement about this countdown every year!
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 21, 2011, 08:48:55 AM
No big. Thanks for all the hard work. Look forward to talking to everyone tonight.
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Post by: oldkid on September 21, 2011, 08:57:35 AM
I have to visit some family, but I'll try to be there for some of it tonight.  It will continue tomorrow as well?
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Post by: Corndog on September 21, 2011, 09:19:27 AM
Probably won't bet there tonight, have other plans. If I have even a spare minute I will show up though.
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Post by: tinyholidays on September 21, 2011, 09:22:46 AM
Thanks so much, Wilson! I'm really looking forward to seeing how we've changed and grown since last year's list.

I'll have to leave in the middle of tonight's reveal, probably, but I'll be around for the rest!

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Post by: Wilson on September 21, 2011, 02:10:36 PM
Right, I need a volunteer.

If somebody has some spare time on their hands this evening, I'm looking for somebody to have a look at the list of films.  There's usually 3 or 4 every year that is listed twice, under different names or spellings and it slips through my viewing.  A fresh pair of eyes to check this, would be much appreciated.

(p.s. fear not, you won't encounter spoilers, it will only be the list of nominated movies in alphabetical order)
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Post by: Bondo on September 21, 2011, 02:16:33 PM
I can help out.
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Post by: toro913 on September 21, 2011, 02:23:29 PM
I can lend a hand.
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Post by: Bondo on September 21, 2011, 03:06:03 PM
Just so we have it in this thread too:

The chat is here (http://www.chatzy.com/639320735094). The chat is now. T-minus one hour.
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Post by: Wilson on September 21, 2011, 03:21:46 PM
It might end up being a little nearer to 5.30pm EST but it'll be on tonight, promise :)
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 21, 2011, 04:36:30 PM
Chat is full :(

n/m you can get in if you register
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Post by: Jared on September 21, 2011, 05:25:30 PM
lots of previous favorites seem to be falling year by year. Excited to see what pops up later in the list.

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Post by: Bondo on September 21, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
Six from my ballot so far. Only one film I haven't seen (since it isn't out on DVD yet).
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Post by: Bill Thompson on September 21, 2011, 06:48:47 PM
The fall of Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans is disheartening, very disheartening. On the whole I'm afraid that it's trending towards a lot of recent flicks, especially those from Nolan and Tarantino.  :(
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Post by: sdedalus on September 21, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
Yup.  seeing so many great movies in the bottom 25 makes me very fearful.
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Post by: Junior on September 21, 2011, 06:51:28 PM
Don't worry everybody! New movies are good, too! And there will still be plenty of your precious black and white and/or foreign movies on the list.
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Post by: sdedalus on September 21, 2011, 06:52:43 PM
It's usually the wrong new English language movies that make the list, though.  ;)
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Post by: Junior on September 21, 2011, 06:53:22 PM
You don't have to tell me! Goodfellas and Star Wars, probably.
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Post by: Jared on September 21, 2011, 06:54:27 PM
yay goodfellas boo star wars
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on September 21, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
The sharp eyed amongst you will have noticed a few slight position changes.

There was an error in the sorting on my part, all taking care of now.  No major changes, and all the same films.
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Post by: AAAutin on September 21, 2011, 08:12:58 PM
Don't worry everybody! New movies are good, too!
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Post by: tinyholidays on September 21, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
I can't understand Night of the Hunter slipping!  :-[
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Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on September 22, 2011, 04:31:12 AM
M continues to slip each year, but I am glad it is in there. Big falls for Sunrise and Before Sunrise. So glad to see the return of LA Confidential and Brazil.
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Post by: Wilson on September 22, 2011, 07:10:39 AM
The chat is here (http://www.chatzy.com/639320735094).

Going to be posting 75-60 in around 20 minutes, if anybody's free
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 22, 2011, 09:52:19 AM
Looks like someone was busy in the wee hours of the morning!

Some thoughts on the list so far

* 10 from my top 100, and another 10 that are quite far up there for me

* 2 I haven't seen (Tree of Life, Jesse James)

* Nothing I outright loathe, but IMO The Matrix is rather undeserving.  Actually, the run of 74-72 (Aliens/BTTF/Matrix) is pretty meh.
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Post by: munchin on September 22, 2011, 10:14:16 AM
* Nothing I outright loathe, but IMO The Matrix is rather undeserving.  Actually, the run of 74-72 (Aliens/BTTF/Matrix) is pretty meh.

How do you feel about sci-fi as a genre, in general?

(I think all three of those films were on my list somewhere).
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 10:14:47 AM
More Malick? Madness! You guys are okay.  ;)
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Post by: Jared on September 22, 2011, 10:20:09 AM
Matrix is my least favorite so far too, and Brazil is close.

That said, I love Back to the Future and like Aliens
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Post by: oldkid on September 22, 2011, 10:30:11 AM
This was my year for Malick, so I put a couple on my top 100-- the two that have been included so far.   I'm happy to see as much Malick as will fit on the list.

My son has taken an interest in the top 100 this year and was really happy to see The Matrix and BttF on the list.  Frankly, these are classic action films-- along with Aliens and (the up and coming) Die Hard.  I think it makes our list less pretentious and more accessible.  And frankly, they are best examples of their genres (whatever genre BttF is...)
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Post by: Mike Shutt on September 22, 2011, 10:56:34 AM
What I like seeing on the list:
The Wizard Of Oz
This Is Spinal Tap
Touch Of Evil
Raging Bull
Le Samourai
Reservoir Dogs
Back To The Future
Schindler's List
The Seventh Seal
Inglourious Basterds
Monty Python And The Holy Grail
Memento
Adaptation.


What I dislike seeing on the list:
The Tree Of Life
Sunrise: A Song Of Two Humans
Aliens
The Matrix
The New World
Star Wars
Psycho
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 11:04:46 AM
Malick hater.  >:(
Silent film hater.  >:(
Aliens hater.  >:(
Star Wars hater.  >:(
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Post by: verbALs on September 22, 2011, 11:11:18 AM
Very pleased to see Oldboy appear. I was surprised it wasn't on before. Can only wish Lady Vengeance gets a place. I think it's the better film. I doubt it tho.
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Post by: 1SO on September 22, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
Frankly, these are classic action films-- along with Aliens and (the up and coming) Die Hard.  I think it makes our list less pretentious and more accessible.  And frankly, they are best examples of their genres (whatever genre BttF is...)

No amount of action and genre can balance the pretentiousness of Malick. The rest of the countdown can be 70s slasher films and this would still be a pretentious list.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
 ::)
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Post by: Jared on September 22, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
I loved Tree of Life.

I probably have to go watch New World again and force myself to love that one too. Which is what all us Malick fans do...just watch movies we hate and tell ourselves they are good  ;)
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 11:22:52 AM
Yea, because I put films on my top 100 because they're pretentious and I hate myself.  :P
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Post by: oldkid on September 22, 2011, 11:23:27 AM
Yeah, Sam, I agree with your  ::)

Frankly, Malick communicates.  He does it in a particular way and I don't find it pretentious at all.

If our list only had art films or classic oldies, that would be pretentious, because we would be ignoring other genres that have good work like BttF and Die Hard.  I love the fact that we take Alien/Aliens as seriously as Le Samourai.

I don't think it would be right to "dislike" any film on the list.  It is a group list, not a personal list, and I like the fact that there are some films I don't care for (Oldboy) and some I haven't seen (Hoop Dreams) on the list.  The annual list is vibrant and a powerful statement about the living nature of film in our lives.

But one film I don't understand: The 400 Blows.  I finally caught up with it this year, and I don't understand the deep and abiding love for this film.  It's fine, I don't dislike it, but it didn't impact me at all.  Why is it so loved?  What makes it so great?  (Of course, I have the same questions about Casablanca, but I'm going to go there...)
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on September 22, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
Didn't even know the countdown was happening.

Tree of Life! :up: :up: :up:
Oldboy! :up: :up: :up:
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Post by: Bondo on September 22, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
I try not to dislike that certain films are on the list (I usually fail, couldn't we at least just stick to the good Malick films?) but I certainly dislike plenty of films on the list.

Still, any list that has no Danny Boyle (but three Malick) is snobby and pretentious, and I expect that will once again be the case.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
Three Malicks? Count again.
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Post by: Mike Shutt on September 22, 2011, 11:29:40 AM
Malick hater.  >:(
No, I just don't like those two. I enjoy his other three.

Silent film hater.  >:(
No, I just don't think that film is as great as everyone says it is.

Aliens hater.  >:(
Star Wars hater.  >:(

Yup!  ;D
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on September 22, 2011, 11:32:45 AM
The only Malick film that might not make the list is TTRL. I don't mind.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 11:34:20 AM
Badlands and TTRL won't be on the list. Days of Heaven might, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by: 'Noke on September 22, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
Three Malicks? Count again.

I think he may be assuming Days of Heaven will make it.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 11:35:44 AM
Three Malicks? Count again.

I think he may be assuming Days of Heaven will make it.
I assume nothing given the first section of this list.
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Post by: 'Noke on September 22, 2011, 11:37:13 AM
Three Malicks? Count again.

I think he may be assuming Days of Heaven will make it.
I assume nothing given the first section of this list.

True, but I get the feeling that Days of Heaven will make it if both The New World and Tree of Life did.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on September 22, 2011, 11:40:23 AM
Badlands and TTRL won't be on the list. Days of Heaven might, but I'm not holding my breath.

It's on my list, I assume that pushes it over the top  :P
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Post by: munchin on September 22, 2011, 11:51:48 AM
Days of Heaven was so high last year (25), I'd be a little shocked if it was absent. I just saw it for the first time a couple weeks back. It wasn't really for me. But I loved the Tree of Life. I have The New World out from the library right now, so I plan to give that a try very soon.
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Post by: edgar00 on September 22, 2011, 11:56:53 AM
Eh, knowing myself and how cynical I can be at times, the Tree of Life appearance on the list might just be the result of a 'Malick buzz' since the film was released this past summer. I just always find it 'intriguing' when a brand new film makes a list like this. The Dark Knight had a nice cozy spot at 74 on our '08 list and then absent since then.

I like re-evaluating a film people call 'great' 3-4 years after its release. I'm not saying Tree of Life, some years down the road (maybe even next year) won't be on the list. I'm just skeptical like that when it comes to the shiny new stuff that heralded as 'the shit.'

'Time' is always the best evaluator of a film. That and Filmspotters.
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Post by: Wilson on September 22, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
The chat is here (http://www.chatzy.com/639320735094).

Another portion of the countdown (quite a bit of it really), will be starting in around 10 minutes.


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Post by: Jared on September 22, 2011, 12:19:39 PM

I like re-evaluating a film people call 'great' 3-4 years after its release. I'm not saying Tree of Life, some years down the road (maybe even next year) won't be on the list. I'm just skeptical like that when it comes to the shiny new stuff that heralded as 'the shit.'

Similarily, while taking quite a drop, Inglourious Basterds still made the list.

Personally, I had Tree of Life on my list, but fairly low....as I usually like to have seen a movie multiple times before having it in the top 50 or so. It might take the biggest jump upwards on my list for next year.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 12:22:35 PM
Eh, knowing myself and how cynical I can be at times, the Tree of Life appearance on the list might just be the result of a 'Malick buzz' since the film was released this past summer. I just always find it 'intriguing' when a brand new film makes a list like this. The Dark Knight had a nice cozy spot at 74 on our '08 list and then absent since then.

I like re-evaluating a film people call 'great' 3-4 years after its release. I'm not saying Tree of Life, some years down the road (maybe even next year) won't be on the list. I'm just skeptical like that when it comes to the shiny new stuff that heralded as 'the shit.'

'Time' is always the best evaluator of a film. That and Filmspotters.
Well, Inglourious Basterds is still on there....

I'm one of the few Malick fans that doesn't have Tree of Life on his list, so I know where you're coming from.  Still, I like it, so I don't begrudge it being on the list too much.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 01:40:41 PM
Mark my words, the three films to jump up into the top 25 (that were't there last year) will be Spirited Away, A Wonderful Life and Apocalypse Now.

We deliberated thus in chat, so it's pretty much scientific fact.
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Post by: Junior on September 22, 2011, 01:46:52 PM
There's an overlap of 20 movies between my list and this list so far. 20/75 isn't bad. Also, I like how this list definitively proves that Blade Runner is better than Star Wars.
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Post by: Beavermoose on September 22, 2011, 02:43:22 PM
And that Die Hard>BttF
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Post by: Bondo on September 22, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
I guess I shall be lounging in chat until the start of the final bit of the countdown, while doing a bit of work. Looks like it is odds on that a full quarter of the list was on my top-100. That's a bingo!
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Post by: munchin on September 22, 2011, 03:19:49 PM
Mark my words, the three films to jump up into the top 25 (that were't there last year) will be Spirited Away, A Wonderful Life and Apocalypse Now.

We deliberated thus in chat, so it's pretty much scientific fact.

There might actually be 4 films that move into the top 25. On the spreadsheet, it looked like Mulholland Drive was 26, but I forgot that the top row was used for column titles, so it was actually #25 and it has already appeared. So, Joan of Arc, Mulholland Drive, 8 1/2 and The Third Man all fell out of the top 25.

I'm sure Spirited Away made the jump (it was in my top 5) and the other 2 are probably right. Could the other one be Yi Yi?
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Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on September 22, 2011, 03:42:49 PM
Pleases to see that Sunset Blvd. has risen.
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Post by: Wilson on September 22, 2011, 04:41:16 PM
The chat is here (http://www.chatzy.com/639320735094).
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Post by: Jared on September 22, 2011, 05:59:36 PM
sweet...seen em all
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Post by: Wilson on September 22, 2011, 06:02:47 PM
Thanks to everyone for voting, for commenting and taking part in the chats.  Obviously this is impossible to do without your participation and I hope you all get as much enjoyment from it every year as I do.

Comments and suggestions for next year's are always welcome.

Full spreadsheet is also available in the opening countdown post.
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Post by: oldkid on September 22, 2011, 06:31:39 PM
I DEMAND A RECOUNT!

I can't believe Close Encounters didn't make it!
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 22, 2011, 06:40:13 PM
Final count: 29 from my own list.

As is inevitable with this kind of aggregated voting, the list mostly tends to be the iconic, canonical titles with a handful of "modern classics".  I don't see this as a disappointment... we're an eclectic bunch with widely varying tastes so of course the consensus is mainly going to occur on those films that everybody loves.  Still, I can't help wishing there were a few more surprises. 

It's really seeing your individual lists that makes this endeavor worthwhile, the aggregated list is just a bonus.

Thanks to Wilson and all the participants for the hard work you put into this. 
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 22, 2011, 06:47:31 PM
Mark my words, the three films to jump up into the top 25 (that were't there last year) will be Spirited Away, A Wonderful Life and Apocalypse Now.

We deliberated thus in chat, so it's pretty much scientific fact.

There might actually be 4 films that move into the top 25.
Yes, this actually ended up being the case and Taxi Driver slipped in.
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Post by: oldkid on September 22, 2011, 06:49:55 PM
My top 100 and the general top 100.  Shared = 35.

It'd be much more if it's my top 200.  A lot of great movies there.
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Post by: Mike Shutt on September 22, 2011, 07:09:25 PM
47 from my list!
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Post by: sdedalus on September 22, 2011, 07:12:39 PM
Rear Window in the top 5 was a pleasant surprise.
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Post by: saltine on September 22, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
On behalf of the mods and admin, thank you, Wilson.  Job very well done!
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Post by: ferris on September 22, 2011, 08:33:15 PM
On behalf of the mods and admin, thank you, Wilson.  Job very well done!

Yes yes yes thanks so much.  We all look forward to this every year. It's a bunch of fun.
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Post by: ferris on September 22, 2011, 08:34:13 PM
No Close Encounters again.  Hmmmm looks I'm going to have stick around another year...

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Post by: FroHam X on September 22, 2011, 08:37:47 PM
Maybe if I'd submitted a list it would have gotten on there. It would have been my #2 or #3.
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Post by: AAAutin on September 22, 2011, 08:45:23 PM
Oh, don't you start. We begged you!
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Post by: FroHam X on September 22, 2011, 08:48:19 PM
I put no stock in it. I loved looking over the list. Nothing at all surprising. I guess I have a good handle on the tastes of this forum at this point. I didn't expect Close Encounters to make it anyway.
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Post by: Bondo on September 22, 2011, 08:55:59 PM
26 from my ballot (though that is overstated vis a vis my actual top-100)

14 from my "bottom 100" films that I give a 1/5.

I consider it a positive that the first number is much larger than the second, though in the top 25 that wasn't the case.

Only Tree of Life is unseen, which is understandable.

4 of the 5 that just missed were on my ballot. Clearly I didn't game it enough. ;)
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Post by: AAAutin on September 22, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
I put no stock in it.

Yeah, but I still think--being that you are an essential part of this pseudo-community--that your voice should have been counted. Feels like this list should be annotated with a little hamster-shaped asterisk, or something.
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Post by: Verite on September 22, 2011, 09:18:28 PM
Thanks for all your time spent and running this annually, Wilson!
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Post by: FroHam X on September 22, 2011, 09:22:07 PM
I don't have much comment on the list. I guess the only thing people would reasonably expect me to respond to is the BttF vs Die Hard issue, which I don't care about anyway. I think people tend to take Back to the Future for granted, and on the flip side Die Hard is one of the two or three best examples of a genre, so it naturally sticks out more to people who create such lists, even when there is not a huge "personal" connection to it. Even for me, it's a Top 20 or 30 film. I think The Godfather is overrated, both in life and by the forum. I am actually surprised it has once again gotten the #1 spot. I don't feel like people tend to rally around The Godfather much around here, which makes it a bit unexpected for a #1. I think that otherwise, the list is as solid as any of the other lists. A ton of fun to read. A large number of the choices will be in my Essentials series, so I'll comment on them in more detail there. There are a few on the list that I don't like. Very few. Really only Lost in Translation, Mulholland Dr., Aguirre and Tree of Life. There are a few that I still have yet to see, and I really do need to rectify that. Other than that, I have not much to add, and any contribution from me in the form of a list would be so arbitrary that any skewing it would cause I would not be able to necessarily get behind anyway. Does it suck that Close Encounters didn't make the list? Sure, but I feel like that film is slowly being rediscovered by this forum for the amazing personal work of art that it is. In the meantime, I can't complain much about a list that has Raiders in the Top 10.

How's that for annotation?
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Post by: Junior on September 22, 2011, 11:12:20 PM
Thanks again, Wilson. Loved the shot selection this year.

I had an overlap of 27 between my list and the big list. A pretty good number, I think. Fun times!
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Post by: oneaprilday on September 22, 2011, 11:30:26 PM
Thanks, Wilson, for doing this again - awesome job.

21 from my list made it.   Scenes from a Marriage being on the list this year was a nice surprise.
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Post by: 1SO on September 22, 2011, 11:35:48 PM
I don't feel like people tend to rally around The Godfather much around here, which makes it a bit unexpected for a #1.
Except your BFF.

It's a good list. There are always a few I do not and will never agree with, but they are the ones that give our list personal charm. The biggest bummer is how many films where I was the only vote. Nearly a third. This year I decided to just submit my Top 100 even though I knew a few had no hope of making it. This strongly suggests I should do a little gaming next year. Would love to get a John Ford in there, particularly Liberty Valance.

Thanks, Wilson for all the hard work.
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Post by: Junior on September 22, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
GAMING IS THE WORST POSSIBLE THING!

The highest Borzage was Lucky Star, likely because of my putting it at the 8 spot. It's on Qwikster, everybody!
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Post by: sdedalus on September 23, 2011, 12:32:56 AM
I voted for Liberty Valance, and three other Fords.

Was Hawks shut out?  I don't recall seeing any classic Westerns. . .
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Post by: Sandy on September 23, 2011, 07:10:46 AM
I love this pseudo-community! Thanks Wilson, it has been so much fun. Since I only have 14 that are on the top 100 list, my thinking is that I've got me some movies to watch...Or, y'all got some movies to watch!  ;)
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Post by: mañana on September 23, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
It's really seeing your individual lists that makes this endeavor worthwhile, the aggregated list is just a bonus.
Yep.

Thanks again, Wilson. Loved the shot selection this year.
YEP!

Would love to get a John Ford in there, particularly Liberty Valance.
That'll probably be on my list next year.
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Post by: Beavermoose on September 23, 2011, 10:30:57 AM
I guess the only thing people would reasonably expect me to respond to is the BttF vs Die Hard issue, which I don't care about anyway.

 ::)
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Post by: ses on September 23, 2011, 10:44:17 AM
39 from my list made it on the countdown.  Not bad.  :D
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on September 23, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
Thanks Wilson.

I'm going to game hard next year.
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Post by: THATguy on September 23, 2011, 02:57:53 PM
CINECAST!ing Raiders of the Lost Ark being a spot higher than Singin' in the Rain makes me think this list is personally trolling me. Hmmph.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on September 23, 2011, 03:28:56 PM
CINECAST!ing Raiders of the Lost Ark being a spot higher than Singin' in the Rain makes me think this list is personally trolling me. Hmmph.

I feel the same way about them both being on the list!
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Post by: Lobby on September 24, 2011, 03:03:17 AM
It's been a very interesting journey and I've loved to take part of all those individual lists. It's like peaking into someone elses bookshelves or picture albums, which is something I like to do out of pure curiosity.

The end list isn't quite as exciting, but it still has a certain value as the result of a common effort. There are many, many movies on that list which I haven't watched - and on the individual lists as well. So if I ever need an idea about what to see next, I know where to look. I'm pretty certain my own list will have changed quite a bit next year. It already feels a bit old, but then I wrote it in a rush a Saturday afternoon, without putting too much thinking into it.  :-[
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Post by: oldkid on September 24, 2011, 07:35:26 AM
A couple years ago I took the effort to watch all of the FS 100, and it was so worth the effort.  Not to be a clone of the community, but to have a basic, well-rounded film education.  The personal lists are challenging and quirky and certainly a lot more fun to read.  But the FS 100 makes for a great basics list, whether we agree or disagree with the certain films.  Although I really disliked Goodfellas, I'm glad I watched it, if only to perpetuate the conversation. 

And the chat on any of the lists is always fantastic.  For those who haven't participated in the chat during the posting (whether top 100 or 100 performances or whatever), please participate.  It is one of the best parts of this community.
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Post by: Jared on September 24, 2011, 08:12:53 PM
46 movies I havent seen amongst the Top 500. May just have to marathon through them.
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Post by: 1SO on September 25, 2011, 12:00:25 PM
I went through the Top 500 and found 27 unwatched. However, most of them are unwatched for very good reasons, and I think it would be a marathon of endurance, not discovery. A few titles are in my Director's of Shame Marathon.  I'm posting the list in case some of you want to make arguments for me watching it or post Ranks.


1. Tree of Life - I will watch this on Blu-Ray
2. Ratcatcher - DOS, but most of you know why (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8177.msg465129#msg465129)
3. Brighter Summer Day
4. Pather Panchali
5. I Fidanzati
6. Il Posto
7. My Winnipeg
8. Friday Night / Vendredi Soir
9. Jeanne Dielman…
10. My Night at Maud's
11. Long Day Closes
12. Vertical Ray of the Sun - DOS
13. Welfare
14. Love Me Tonight
15. Platform
16. Pierrot le fou
17. Whisper of the Heart
18. Woman is a Woman
19. Harakiri - DOS
20. House - Shocktober Marathon
21. World of Apu - Upcoming Marathon
22. Ordet
23. The Hole
24. Daguerreotypes
25. Tale of Tales
26. Paris is Burning
27. Sans Soleil
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Post by: sdedalus on September 25, 2011, 12:57:05 PM
I'd be curious what you think of Rohmer.  I'd be curious what everyone thinks of Rohmer.

My Top 5 for you from what I've seen from that list:

1. Pierrot le fou
2. My Night at Maud's
3. Sans soleil
4. My Winnipeg
5. The Tree of Life
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 25, 2011, 01:01:37 PM
4. Pather Panchali
5. I Fidanzati
6. Il Posto
7. My Winnipeg
9. Jeanne Dielman…
10. My Night at Maud's
11. Long Day Closes
14. Love Me Tonight
17. Whisper of the Heart
22. Ordet
23. The Hole
25. Tale of Tales

You should watch these.
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Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on September 25, 2011, 01:04:02 PM
5. I Fidanzati
6. Il Posto
These two are great and short, and similar enough in style that watching one will give you a decent idea of whether you'll like the other. I prefer Il posto since the main character's struggles are more relatable  to me, but I've seen people with the opposite opinion.

My Night at Maud's is one of Rohmer's best and definitely a must see, as are the two Satyajit Ray films on your list.

I'd be interested in seeing what you think of Ratcatcher, since I too hated Morvern Callar.

My own list of 26 unwatched in the top 500 is a mix of films I've been meaning to see, ones I've been avoiding and a few I've never heard of.
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Post by: MartinTeller on September 25, 2011, 01:17:04 PM
Films I haven't seen from the top 500:

Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, The
Tree of Life (in my marathon, already pre-ordered the Blu-Ray)
Almost Famous (seen most of it)
Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Eureka
Where The Wild Things Are (in my marathon)
Mary Poppins (probably saw it as a child)
Brokeback Mountain (in my marathon)
In America
In Bruges
Friday Night / Vendredi Soir
Island (2006)
Sense and Sensibility
I’m Not There
Welfare
In The Bedroom
After the Wedding
I [Heart] Huckabees
Christmas Story (hated what I've seen of it)
Mysterious Skin  
Never Cry Wolf
Barbarian Invasions
Fiddler on the Roof
Chariots of Fire
Buffalo '66
Dumb and Dumber
Another Year
Lucky Star
Daguerreotypes
Pride & Prejudice
Mary and Max
Gattaca
Robin Hood (1973)
Paris is Burning
Together/Tillsammans

Quite a lot!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Mike Shutt on September 25, 2011, 01:31:44 PM
Films I haven't seen from the top 500:

Beauty and the Beast (1991)

What.....? List of Shame soon.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on September 25, 2011, 01:46:25 PM
I like sdedalus adding "for you". Martin's seems more like a list of films I should watch because they're excellent, but picks like Jeanne Dielman… feel like asking for trouble.

That being said, Pierrot le fou is interesting to put at the top since I don't like Godard.

As for Beauty and the Beast, Martin's been rather clear about his hesitation towards that film based on his general opinion of 90s Disney and his love for the 1946 Cocteau version. That's why we all look past it and harp on him to watch Mary Poppins.

Though if I were to dictate a sure bet to Martin from that list, it would be Eureka.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on September 25, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
Don't think of it as Godard, think of it as Bonnie & Clyde.

Pierrot le fou and A Woman is a Woman are probably his easiest films to like.  The two films where his sheer joy in making movies is most evident.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Mike Shutt on September 25, 2011, 02:46:46 PM
Top 500 (What I Haven't Seen):

-Princess Mononoke (Next film to be up for LOS)
-Chungking Express
-Three Colors: Red (Part of my LOS Dictation)
-Rashomon
-The Passion Of Joan Of Ark
-Hoop Dreams
-My Neighbor Totoro
-High And Low
-Scenes From A Marriage
-Ikiru (on my LOS)
-Naussica Of The Valley Of The Wind
-The General
-The Double Life Of Veronique
-Yi Yi
-Wings Of Desire
-The Thing
-Brighter Summer Day
-Tokyo Story
-In a Lonely Place
-Army Of Shadows
-Werckmeister Harmonies
-Children Of Paradise
-Playtime
-Persona
-Shop Around The Corner
-High Fidelity
-Eureka
-Cleo From 5 To 7
-Sweet Smell Of Success
-The Battle Of Algiers
-La Jetée
-Last Year At Marienbad
-The Best Years Of Our Lives
-Fanny And Alexander
-La Haine
-Pather Panchali
-Sherlock Jr.
-Only Angels Have Wings
-Secrets And Lies
-The Life And Death Of Colonel Blimp
-Songs From The Second Floor
-The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
-Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, And Spring
-Happy Together
-The Umbrellas Of Cherbourg
-I Fidanzati
-Still Walking
-In America
-CINECAST!ing Amal
-My Darling Clementine
-Stalag 17
-All That Jazz
-Il Posto
-The Grand Illusion
-My Winnipeg
-Sátántangó
-Andrei Rublev (on my LOS)
-The Return
-Memories Of Murder
-Peeping Tom (on my LOS)
-Winter Light
-Friday Night
-Jeanne Dielman
-Celebration
-Mon Oncle
-Rio Bravo (on my LOS)
-After Life
-Jules And Jim
-Red Beard
-A Woman Under The Influence
-The Exterminating Angel
-My Night At Maud's
-Long Day Closes
-Time Of The Gypsies
-Nights Of Cabiria
-Vertical Ray Of The Sun
-Stalker
-Welfare
-Underground
-Seven Brides For Seven Brothers
-Syndromes And A Century
-Man Escaped
-Love Me Tonight
-Hiroshima Mon Amour
-The Gleaners And I
-Night And Fog
-Stardust Memories
-Platform
-35 Shots Of Rum
-Out Of The Past
-After The Wedding
-Tampopo
-A Christmas Story
-An Angel At My Table
-Naked
-Never Cry Wolf
-Whisper Of The Heart
-Sex, Lies, And Videotape
-Dead Man
-Life Is Beautiful (will be watching in class)
-Perfect Blue
-Barbarian Invasions
-Imitation Of Life
-La Dolce Vida (watching tomorrow)
-A Short Film About Love
-The Spirit Of The Beehive
-Castle In the Sky
-The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, And Her Lover
-Late Spring
-Shoot The Piano Player
-The Conformist
-A Woman Is A Woman
-American Movie
-Harakiri
-Nashville
-Paprika
-Young Girls Of Rochefort
-What Time Is It There?
-Ashes And Diamonds
-Fallen Angels
-House
-Beau Travali
-Day For Night
-The Leopard
-The Wages Of Fear
-Picnic At Hanging Rock
-Another Year
-Killer Of Sheep
-Howl's Moving Castle
-Gregory's Girl
-Lucky Star
-World Of Apu
-Close Up
-Millenium Mambo
-Ordet
-The Hole
-Daguerreotypes
-Three Colors: White (Part of my LOS dictation)
-The Man With A Movie Camera
-Mary And Max
-Tale Of Tales
-Meet Me In St. Louis
-Raise The Red Lantern
-Paris Is Burning
-Devils On The Doorstep
-The Five Obstructions
-Sans Soleil
-Together
-Innocence
-Letter To Three Wives

That is an embarrassing amount.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 'Noke on September 25, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
Top 500 (What I Haven't Seen):

-Princess Mononoke (Next film to be up for LOS)

Huzzah!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on September 25, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Unseen from the top 500, Ones I'm keen to see in bold:

The Tree of Life
Wings of Desire
Shadow of a Doubt
Brighter Summer Day
Army of Shadows
Children of Paradise
French Connection
Persona
Shop Around The Corner
Glengarry Glen Ross
Eureka
Le Cercle Rouge
Halloween
Mean Streets
La Haine
Pather Panchali
Lady Vengence
McCabe and Mrs. Miller
Secrets and Lies
Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Black Narcissus

I Fidanzati
My Darling Clementine
Videodrome
Il Posto
Satantago
The Return
Throne of Blood
Memories of Murder
Winter Light
Friday Night
Island
Mon Oncle
Waiting For Guffman
Jules and Jim
The Exterminating Angel
My Night at Maud's
Long Day Closes
Time of the Gypsies
Vertical Ray of the Sun
Dawn of the Dead
Welfare

Man Escaped
Love Me Tonight
Hiroshima Mon Amour
Purple Rose of Cairo
L'Avventura
Platform
Out of the Past
Miami Vice
Tampopo
An Angel at My Table
Never Cry Wolf
Pierrot le fou
Dead Man
Spirit of the Beehive
Cook Thief Wife Lover
Late Spring
Magnificent Ambersons
Shoot The Piano Player
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Chariots of Fire
The Conformist
Woman is a Woman
American Movie
Nashville
Young Girls of Rochefort
What Time Is It There
Ashes and Diamonds
Buffalo '66
Fallen Angels
House
Beau Travail
Day For Night
Leopard
Gregory's GIrl
Lucky Star
World of Apu
Matter of Life and Death
Sanjuro
Close Up
Millennium Mambo
Ordet
The Hole
The Remains of the Day
Daguerrotypes
Tale of Tales
Raise the Red Lantern
Night of the Living Dead
Paris is Burning

Devils on the Doorsetp
The Five Obstructions
Letter to Three Wives
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: smirnoff on September 25, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
-12 films from my list
-haven't seen 21 of the 100
-somewhat interested in seeing 2 of them (It's a Wonderful Life and Tree of Life)



A fun way to look at the list is if you divide points by number of votes and trim off any film that only received a single vote. When you sort the result what you get is a list that reflects how well-loved a film is when it manages to crack a filmspotters' top 100s.

For example the number one film is Long Day Closes, and Spirited Away tops The Godfather. Kind of neat. It's a look at how well loved a film is by those who love it, and it isn't necessary for many people to have seen it to make the list (just 2).

Here's the list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AknZYg2sTiPQdFJUdHFoRDlFLV9DQ1dxcGN0R05HaEE&hl=en_US)

Anyways, I thought that was kind of cool.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: tinyholidays on September 25, 2011, 08:29:31 PM
Aaahh!!! Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is #4 on the remix! Supercool, smirnoff!
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 1SO on September 25, 2011, 08:41:02 PM
I added I Fidanzati and Il Posto by Ermanno Olmi to my Director's of Shame Marathon (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=10148.0). As luck would have it, he's alphabetically next on the list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on September 25, 2011, 09:36:27 PM
Unseen from the top 500, Ones I'm keen to see in bold:

[...]

Long Day Closes

[...]

Given your propensity to check out LGBT films, a small part of this film deals with the autobiographical detail of the director's growing awareness of his homosexuality in his childhood as a Catholic in a Catholic school.  (He now considers himself an atheist.)  Though Terence Davies' earlier trilogy of short films - Children, Madonna and Child, and Death and Transfiguration - spends more time "dramatizing" his homosexuality and spends more time on his struggle with it.  All his films aren't conventionally narrative, though; they are structured on vignettes.  So consider this a very weak recommendation based on the style of his films and that it's not a huge part (screentime-wise) of Long Day Closes compared to his trilogy.  While I consider Davies to be among the premier stylists in the history of film, it's his openness and the autobiographical slant of his work that also leads me to hold his films in high esteem.  The DVD commentaries are extremely informative of how personal his films are.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on September 25, 2011, 09:49:04 PM
I added I Fidanzati and Il Posto by Ermanno Olmi to my Director's of Shame Marathon (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=10148.0).

I recommend the latter film first for you.  While it's not similar to The 400 Blows and the lead is much older than Antoine Doinel, both can be considered youth films.  Again they're very different, but the Truffaut is the only film from your Top 100 that I can compare Il Posto to the slightest degree.  I don't see any film from there for which I can do the same for I Fidanzati.

Harakiri is the only one on your unseen list that I'd strongly recommend to you.  But that's more about me than you.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on September 25, 2011, 10:00:43 PM
Ver, that's one of many that aren't highlighted mostly because I haven't heard anything about them rather than a specific judgement. Thanks for bringing its themes a bit more to my attention, though isn't Davies the director of that Liverpool "doc" I hated a couple years ago?
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Verite on September 25, 2011, 10:11:39 PM
Ver, that's one of many that aren't highlighted mostly because I haven't heard anything about them rather than a specific judgement. Thanks for bringing its themes a bit more to my attention, though isn't Davies the director of that Liverpool "doc" I hated a couple years ago?

Of Time and the City?  If that's what you're referring to, yes he is.  Though disliking that docu-essay isn't a bellwether of finding something of interest in his other films in my opinion.  At the same time, I think familiarity with his past films and Davies' autobiographical details helps one appreciate Of Time and the City more if only to understand Davies slightly more through that docu-essay (i.e. why he feels how feels; why he said what he said).
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on September 25, 2011, 10:40:41 PM
42 from my own Top 100

Top 100 I haven't seen:
42. Three Colors: Blue
56. Three Colors: Red
78. Le Samourai
81. Fitzcarraldo
82. High and Low
90. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
92. Scenes from a Marriage
96. The Night of the Hunter
97. Ikiru
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: 'Noke on September 26, 2011, 09:55:44 AM
100. The Wizard of Oz*
96. Ikiru
95. The Night of the Hunter
92. Brazil
91. Scenes from a Marriage
90. Touch of Evil
89. Aguirre, Wrath of God
88. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
87. The Red Shoes
85. Do The Right Thing
84. M
82. Raging Bull
81. High and Low
80. Fitzcarraldo
77. Le Samourai
75. The Passion of Joan of Arc
74. Aliens
67. Mulholland Dr.
66. Oldboy
55. Three Colours: Red
50. North by Northwest
45. Amadeus
35. The Empire Strikes Back*
34. The Apartment
33. Alien
28. 8 1/2
27. Double Indemnity
24. Annie Hall
21. The Godfather: Part II

A lot of movies I'm excited to see.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: tinyholidays on September 26, 2011, 10:34:38 AM
'Noke, I can't wait for you to see The Night of the Hunter. There's a lot on that list, though, that I think you're gonna love!

--

Here are the 20 I haven't seen from this year's top 150. A couple of them (Brazil, Fitzcarraldo) I'm including because my original viewings were clipped or less than acceptable.

Blade Runner
Oldboy
Touch of Evil (on deck for List of Shame)
Fitzcarraldo
Scenes from a Marriage
Brazil
Miller's Crossing
Assassination of Jesse James
All About My Mother
Wings of Desire
Paris, Texas
Elephant
The Thing
A Brighter Summer Day
Metropolis
Army of Shadows
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Werckmeister Harmonies
Heat
City Lights
Children of Paradise
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on September 26, 2011, 10:47:54 AM
OK, I think this is a list over the movies on the top 100 I have yet to see. I'm a bit uncertain about a few, putting a question mark for them. I may have watched them a long time ago or only read about them so I think I've watched them. My memory is blurred.

Also a reservation: I haven't doublechecked all those titles. There might be a few I've actually watched but just don't recongize the English title.
However: there's no doubt about the fact that I have quite a few good movies unseen.


100. The Wizard of Oz (?)
97. Miller’s Crossing
96. Ikiru
95. The Night of the Hunter
94. L.A. Confidential
93. This is Spinal Tap
90. Touch of Evil
89. Aguirre, Wrath of God
88. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
87. The Red Shoes
86. Before Sunrise
84. M
82. Raging Bull
81. High and Low
79. My Neighbour Totoro
78. Hoop Dreams
77. Le Samourai
76. Reservoir Dogs
75. The Passion of Joan of Arc
68. Inglourious Basterds
67. Mulholland Dr.
66. Oldboy
62. The 400 Blows
60. Adaptation.
59. Rashomon
57. Network
56. City of God
55. Three Colours: Red
53. The Shawshank Redemption (?)
52. In The Mood For Love
50. North by Northwest
49. Before Sunset
48. Goodfellas
44. Chungking Express
42. Princess Mononoke
41. Three Colours: Blue
38. Fight Club
34. The Apartment
29. The Third Man
28. 8 1/2
27. Double Indemnity
26. Sunset Boulevard
25. Days of Heaven
20. There Will Be Blood
16. The Big Lebowski
14. Dr Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (?)
13. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (?)
12. Fargo
10. Seven Samurai
6. Citizen Kane
5. Rear Window (?)
4. Once Upon a Time in the West
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: tinyholidays on September 26, 2011, 11:02:59 AM
Ahhh!!! Lobby! You have so much great stuff ahead of you! Also, looking over your list, the vast majority of those films I had not seen until I joined this forum.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: oldkid on September 26, 2011, 09:41:26 PM
Here are the 29 films I haven't seen from the Filmspotting top 200:


Hoop Dreams
Aguirre: The Wrath of God
Scenes from a Marriage
Ratcatcher
Notorious
Shadow of a Doubt
Manhattan
Paths of Glory
The Thing
Brighter Summer Day
Tokyo Story
In a Lonely Place
Army of Shadows
Werckmeister Harmonies
Persona
Hanna and Her Sisters
Shop Around the Corner
Glengarry Glen Ross
Blue Velvet
Eureka
Cleo from 5 to 7
Insider
The Sweet Smell of Success
A History of Violence
Gimme Shelter
Charade
The Battle of Algiers
La Jetee
Last Year at Marienbad

I am looking forward to (almost) all of them.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Harpo Speaks on September 28, 2011, 08:11:50 PM
I went through the Top 500

Can someone point me in the direction of the Top 500 please? I'm probably being incredibly blind, though it's gone 2 in the morning here so I'm claiming fatigue as an excuse...
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Corndog on September 28, 2011, 08:14:32 PM
Wilson posts the Excel sheet of every film that received votes in the first post of the actual list. You can go there and download it.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Harpo Speaks on September 28, 2011, 08:18:39 PM
Heh, was just coming back to edit my post as I'd just noticed the link to the spreadsheet. Thanks Corndog.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Wilson on September 29, 2011, 04:21:52 AM
Does anybody have a copy of the original, 2008 edition, of the top 100 spreadsheet?

I'm sure I have it saved somewhere, but I can't find it anywhere and sadly the links on the countdown page are long since dead.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on October 11, 2011, 10:25:55 AM
I felt "bad" that my favorite genre, film noir, was underrepresented in my top 100, so I wanted to do a "top 100 noir".  There's a lot of the obvious choices, but I think some lesser-known gems as well.  For my definition of noir, I followed the same guidelines as the 250 Quintessential Noir Films (http://theyshootpictures.com/noir250noirs1.htm) list, namely:

1) They were all produced in the United States;   
2) They were all shot in black-and-white;   
3) They were all produced between 1940 to 1959.

As in their list, there are a few exceptions.  And there's a hell of a lot of crossover with that list, but consider this a "best of the quintessential" (IMHO) with a few extras thrown in.   I probably spent way too much time putting this list together and gathering all the screenshots, but it's done and here it is, in alphabetical order.

10. The Burglar (Paul Wendkos, 1957)
(http://i.imgur.com/OU5KH.jpg)

46. The Mob (Robert Parrish, 1951)
(http://i.imgur.com/86gCf.jpg)

49. My Name Is Julia Ross (Joseph H. Lewis, 1945)
(http://i.imgur.com/UMOnS.png)

Just quoting this to note that these three will be released in 2012 as part of the "Columbia Film Noir Classics III" DVD set, along with Drive a Crooked Road (pretty good) and Tight Spot (haven't seen it).

Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on October 11, 2011, 03:25:44 PM
Tight Spot is pretty good.  The unusual team of Edward G. Robinson, Brian Keith and Ginger Rogers.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Totoro on October 29, 2011, 01:01:43 AM
You know, I don't know Filmspotting's schedule on these things and if I did, I would have submitted a list. I had one done just for this event, but I don't go into the Filmspotter Pantheon subforum because last time I was here, there was nothing happening, so I just ignored it. Really sucks that I couldn't put in a list. I hope next time someone sends a reminder to new people on the forums about this kind of stuff because I really wanted to be part of it.

 :(
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on October 29, 2011, 01:12:06 AM
You still have a few days for the performances list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Lobby on October 29, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
@Totoro: An easy way to keep up with what's discussed in the forums is to use the "recent posts" link that you'll find in the bottom of the first page of the forum. There you'll see all posts that have been posted regardless of where on the forum. You don't need to keep up with everything that is said of course but if you use that feature once in a while you get a feeling for where the discussions are most lively atm. In August there was a crazy activity in that thread. I guarantee you wouldn't have missed it if you'd checked out "View the most recent posts on the forum".
Please note that you can go back 10 pages. That will not take you a whole day back though. We talk a lot here!

Edit: Now that I understad that you don't use this feature I can't help worrying that Totoro might not see this post from me... Sigh. I don't know how to convey this piece of information to him. He ought to know...  :-\
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on October 29, 2011, 02:19:36 AM
Anyone who regularly participates in the forum should use the "Show unread posts since last visit" link at the top of every page
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: saltine on October 29, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
If it's really important to you, Lobby, pm him.

I too use Recent Posts.  I click on the ones I need to read more carefully and open in another tab, then go back to them after I've read to the last point I left off in the chain.

Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Totoro on October 29, 2011, 02:30:18 AM
@Totoro: An easy way to keep up with what's discussed in the forums is to use the "recent posts" link that you'll find in the bottom of the first page of the forum. There you'll see all posts that have been posted regardless of where on the forum. You don't need to keep up with everything that is said of course but if you use that feature once in a while you get a feeling for where the discussions are most lively atm. In August there was a crazy activity in that thread. I guarantee you wouldn't have missed it if you'd checked out "View the most recent posts on the forum".
Please note that you can go back 10 pages. That will not take you a whole day back though. We talk a lot here!

Edit: Now that I understad that you don't use this feature I can't help worrying that Totoro might not see this post from me... Sigh. I don't know how to convey this piece of information to him. He ought to know...  :-\

No, no. I'm here now...
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Totoro on October 29, 2011, 05:48:49 AM
Someone PMed mr for the documentary top 100 last Spring. I thought I'd be PMed for Top 100 Movie List too if you guys were doing it this year which, from several posts in the RFT thread, sounded like you weren't.

I only found out about the Top 100 performances from a post by Sandy in the RFT thread. Um, next time just put out a possible general announcement in RFT? Just to remind everyone and new people in the future that ignore some of the sub forums because they think they're inactive and don't know about the new posts.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on October 29, 2011, 01:22:05 PM
Someone PMed mr for the documentary top 100 last Spring. I thought I'd be PMed for Top 100 Movie List too if you guys were doing it this year which, from several posts in the RFT thread, sounded like you weren't.

I only found out about the Top 100 performances from a post by Sandy in the RFT thread. Um, next time just put out a possible general announcement in RFT? Just to remind everyone and new people in the future that ignore some of the sub forums because they think they're inactive and don't know about the new posts.

If you care about those subforums then stop ignoring them.  You can tell when there's new posts in those subforums on the front page, so you can clearly see when they're active or not.  It sounds like you're moaning because no one told you we were doing top 100.  No one told me either.  I knew because I read the forums.  If you use the "Show unread posts since last visit" link, it's abundantly clear which threads have new posts.  You can pick and choose the ones you want to read.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on October 29, 2011, 01:29:41 PM
Master Martin Yoda is correct if prickly in his teachings. Use this link (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?action=unread;start=0) and all your troubles will be little ones.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Totoro on October 29, 2011, 02:24:56 PM
Whatever. There were 50 submissions for the list. There could've been more if people were reminded.
But I guess that's too difficult in any capacity, so I'll take it upon myself to remind people about Top 100 performances (look at my signature). Maybe the lurkers on the forum who don't use the new post thing (I just write "movie talk" in my url and go there) would stick around if they felt included.

Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on December 20, 2011, 03:16:11 PM
Has it been mentioned yet that there is only one film (Lost In Translation) on the top-100 directed by a woman? Despicable.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: sdedalus on December 20, 2011, 03:18:47 PM
Yeah, that movie has no business being in the top 100.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on December 20, 2011, 03:21:01 PM
What is the direct connection between good films and gender? If the answer has anything to do with positive discrimination or gaming or anything to do other than it's just a good film then don't answer.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: Bondo on December 20, 2011, 03:30:34 PM
Female-directed films aren't canonical because mostly men have constructed the canon (and because the canon over-emphasizes older films when women weren't as active in the industry). People seek external validation for their views and there's less material out there giving people permission to love films directed by female. I mean, there are NO female directed films on the AFI list. There are more than 100 films that are good enough to theoretically be on a list like the AFI100. One has to try very hard to not have any directed by women find their way onto the list.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: verbALs on December 20, 2011, 03:38:38 PM
..and a good film is a good film, and you aren't railing against the lack of black directors or Iranian directors or disabled directors...choose your flavour of discrimination. btw VARDA!

Honestly Bondo I think it was a stimulating original post, and a very good thought but the only honest answer is "It was a good film, one of the 100 best I have ever seen". No strings attached. It's my answer anyway.

I can't change the male-dominated history of cinema or business or football. I do understand that making the point is justifiable, affirmative, laudable and even sensible (since more than 50% of the world population have been grossly neglected and that's just a shameful waste of talent and (wo)manpower.
Title: Re: 4th Annual Filmspotters Top 100 - Comments
Post by: MartinTeller on December 20, 2011, 03:55:07 PM
I only had two female-directed films in my top 100 (Angel at My Table & Innocence).  On the other hand, I might have been the only person to vote for any African films (Touki Bouki & Cairo Station) so... yay me?

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Post by: verbALs on December 20, 2011, 04:05:53 PM
Bondo, would you posit some demarcation point, at which female directors started to be given the chances to make movies, and then propose top films lists be separated as pre and post- equality film making? That would remove the canon that exists from a time when female directors didn't have the opportunities that I assume you feel they have now. I would be open to that challenge to see if it made a difference to my list, in terms of numbers of female directrs on my list (I know it would include Debra Granik). btw I'm being serious, I'm trying to respond directly to your point the way you made it.
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Post by: Bondo on December 20, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
Well, looking at the criticker lists, apparently the median point for all films made was 1989. For female directed films it is 2001. Let's say anything before 1990 isn't eligible. Though I wouldn't say women are on equal footing now either, just better than they were.
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Post by: sdedalus on December 20, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
Female-directed films aren't canonical because mostly men have constructed the canon (and because the canon over-emphasizes older films when women weren't as active in the industry).

Of these claims, the first is an assertion sorely lacking in evidence (correlation is not causation) and the second relies on a view of film history that is wildly controversial (your belief that film is progressive and therefore older films are necessarily worse than newer ones).


People seek external validation for their views and there's less material out there giving people permission to love films directed by female. I mean, there are NO female directed films on the AFI list.

I don't know of anyone who seeks "permission" to highly regard the films that they regard.  Since we're talking about the filmspotting poll here, I see no evidence that the AFI poll(s) have had any influence on it one way or the other, or that filmspotters are only putting established canonical films in their top 100s.

There are more than 100 films that are good enough to theoretically be on a list like the AFI100.

Then make the case for them and persuade people to watch them and regard them as highly as you do.

One has to try very hard to not have any directed by women find their way onto the list.

That's clearly not the case if we're all blinded by devotion to male-only canons like the AFI.
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Post by: verbALs on December 20, 2011, 04:35:10 PM
So what do you think are the obstacles to female directors being on an equal footing now? Is it something specific to film-making? I am not seeing those natural barriers that obviously used to exist anymore. Perhaps they are latent ones. Do you think women need positive discrimination to make the playing field level? I just asked my daughter if they were more men or women on her architecture course (one of those male dominated professions I think) and she responded that there were more women!
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Post by: sdedalus on December 20, 2011, 04:40:05 PM
So what do you think are the obstacles to female directors being on an equal footing now? Is it something specific to film-making?

In the Hollywood studio system, like in most other big money businesses, the money is still controlled by old white men who tend to be very conservative and therefore unwilling to try new things (like women directing action movies).

In independent and foreign film, there's less money at stake and therefore less institutional control, so you see women on much more of an equal footing.

Our lists tend to favor well-known films with broad audiences (your Coppolas and Kubricks and Kurosawas and Hitchcocks and Nolans) and it's harder for indie and foreign filmmakers to break into that.  As seen by the directors poll, though, Lynne Ramsay (whose Ratcatcher finished just outside this year's Top 100), Kelly Reichardt, Chantal Ackerman and most of all Claire Denis are making a real headway.  Denis, in all probability, didn't get a film in this year's Top 100 because she's made so many films that people like that her support was too diffuse to get any single film onto the list.
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Post by: Bondo on December 20, 2011, 04:42:38 PM
Well, I think women outnumber men in a great number of college programs, even more historically male ones, simply because women vastly outnumber men in colleges. I find that most of the best female directors are pretty well relegated to the indie circuits (so what sdedalus said), and indie films just aren't as widely seen, even on this forum, as more mainstream stuff. We all tend to watch a fair amount of indie stuff, but not necessarily the same indie stuff.

There are more than 100 films that are good enough to theoretically be on a list like the AFI100.

Then make the case for them and persuade people to watch them and regard them as highly as you do.

One has to try very hard to not have any directed by women find their way onto the list.

That's clearly not the case if we're all blinded by devotion to male-only canons like the AFI.

I was talking about the AFI list with these two statements, not ours.

Anyway, my original post here like many other posts is my just being that obnoxious buzzing bee that screams out "remember the women" like it is a Tourette's tic. I certainly do try to highlight female directed films around these parts as I just did today with Tiny Furniture.
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Post by: verbALs on December 20, 2011, 04:46:12 PM
Makes sense.

Anyway I applied the Bondo rule to my extended favourite films list, and it includes four female directors- Debra Granik(30), Kathryn Bigelow(53), Lynne Ramsey (60), Agnes Varda(100)- () are the approximate positions. I guess this proves I am an unreconstituted chauvinistic pig! Hurrah!
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Post by: MartinTeller on December 20, 2011, 04:55:14 PM
Limiting my top 100 to 1990-2011 would add Jellyfish, Sita Sings the Blues, Wendy and Lucy, and Meek's Cutoff to my list.  And maybe Orlando.

But I think we're all avoiding the elephant in the room, which is that women are inherently inferior to men.



I'm totally kidding, don't hate me
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Post by: sdedalus on December 20, 2011, 04:59:54 PM
Anyway I applied the Bondo rule to my extended favourite films list, and it includes four female directors- Debra Granik(30), Kathryn Bigelow(53), Lynne Ramsey (60), Agnes Varda(100)- () are the approximate positions. I guess this proves I am an unreconstituted chauvinistic pig! Hurrah!

I'd pick up Oxhide II (Liu Jiayin) and Sita Sings the Blues (Nina Paley) and not be able to add Jeanne Dielman (Chantal Ackerman) and Cleo from 5 to 7 (Agnes Varda) because they were made before 1990.
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Post by: Shaw13 on December 25, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
There always seems to be such emphasis put on the gender of the director on these boards. I just don't understand why or how it makes any difference to the quality of the film.
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Post by: Bondo on December 25, 2011, 09:42:27 PM
There always seems to be such emphasis put on the gender of the director on these boards. I just don't understand why or how it makes any difference to the quality of the film.

Never taken a women's studies class I take it.
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Post by: oldkid on December 25, 2011, 09:43:32 PM
I like the discussion of gender of directors, if only to (in some magic way) get studios to hire more female directors.  They just need more of an opportunity, and the rest will come.

Just saw my first Breilliat yesterday.  It was great, if not top 100.  (write up later)
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Post by: Beavermoose on December 25, 2011, 09:46:48 PM
There always seems to be such emphasis put on the gender of the director on these boards. I just don't understand why or how it makes any difference to the quality of the film.

Something, something, feminism, equal rights...

The truth is I think women are probably better represented on our lists than in general, compared to the actual percentage of films directed by women every year I mean.
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Post by: Bondo on December 25, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
Just saw my first Breilliat yesterday.  It was great, if not top 100.  (write up later)

I'm giddy with anticipation.
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Post by: Shaw13 on December 25, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
There's such an undercurrent of self-righteousness to it all though. I think on this forum the director's gender sometimes ends up being more important than the quality of the film for some members.

I agree that global cinema would benefit from a broader range of voices operating within it, but it would benefit more from focusing on voices based on what they have to say and not what chromosomes they were born with.
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Post by: oldkid on December 25, 2011, 09:55:16 PM
We are confident that XX has as much to say as XY.  If giving a shout out to their films, to give other XX's a chance to speak, then we are willing to make that sacrifice.
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Post by: Shaw13 on December 25, 2011, 10:00:49 PM
We are confident that XX has as much to say as XY.  If giving a shout out to their films, to give other XX's a chance to speak, then we are willing to make that sacrifice.

I think my point about general attitudes on this forum are kind of encapsulated by your post - grouping women directors together as a group in a kind of faux-liberalism. Just because one woman makes a good film doesn't meant every woman who wants to should be able to make a film purely because their link to a past success is that they happen to fall in the right half of the population. Cinema should be interested in interesting film-makers, regardless of anything else.
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Post by: Bondo on December 25, 2011, 10:12:02 PM
Well for me, I'm finding that on average I probably am more likely to connect with the vision coming from a female director than a male director. I just find I have to work harder to identify female directed films worth trying.
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Post by: oldkid on December 25, 2011, 10:12:39 PM
We are confident that XX has as much to say as XY.  If giving a shout out to their films, to give other XX's a chance to speak, then we are willing to make that sacrifice.

I think my point about general attitudes on this forum are kind of encapsulated by your post - grouping women directors together as a group in a kind of faux-liberalism. Just because one woman makes a good film doesn't meant every woman who wants to should be able to make a film purely because their link to a past success is that they happen to fall in the right half of the population. Cinema should be interested in interesting film-makers, regardless of anything else.

I agree.  And if there are as many women who have a solid voice as men, then they-- as a group-- are not being given the opportunity.  This isn't faux-liberalism (although it might be the real thing)-- it is giving an opportunity to those who have not been given opportunity.  Unless you think that, in general, men make better directors, then there is something seriously wrong in the studio system.
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Post by: Shaw13 on December 25, 2011, 10:20:09 PM
We are confident that XX has as much to say as XY.  If giving a shout out to their films, to give other XX's a chance to speak, then we are willing to make that sacrifice.

I think my point about general attitudes on this forum are kind of encapsulated by your post - grouping women directors together as a group in a kind of faux-liberalism. Just because one woman makes a good film doesn't meant every woman who wants to should be able to make a film purely because their link to a past success is that they happen to fall in the right half of the population. Cinema should be interested in interesting film-makers, regardless of anything else.

I agree.  And if there are as many women who have a solid voice as men, then they-- as a group-- are not being given the opportunity.  This isn't faux-liberalism (although it might be the real thing)-- it is giving an opportunity to those who have not been given opportunity.  Unless you think that, in general, men make better directors, then there is something seriously wrong in the studio system.

Agreed on all about there not being faux-liberalism as I genuinely believe film's by female directors get better reviews around here solely because it was directed by a women, as if that will make the reviewer feel better about the industry and themselves.
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Post by: sdb_1970 on December 25, 2011, 10:36:19 PM
In my limited experience, in most instances when a woman's "voice" is determined by the gods of film theory to be "disinguishable," the film tends to wear the social/political agenda on its sleave, which happens to be one of my pet peaves.  Such films invariably end up being exercises in preaching to the converted.  If you are going to make a film that so explicitly lays out a specific victim-archetype in its preview (e.g., poor, young, African-American, lesbian in 'Pariah'), then don't expect to get your "message" out beyond the art movie houses on the coasts.  (And maybe Dee Rees only has one narrow audience in mind.)  But previews like 'Pariah' tell me that there will not be many dimensions to the character, and I am usually right (in my own opinion).  To me, the worst sin that a film can commit is being both predictable and uninteresting (and that goes for victimhood-porn like 'Precious' as much as it does for comic book fare like 'Iron Man').

That said, I have been a big fan of Kelly Reichhardt since 'Wendy and Lucy,' Sofia Coppola since 'Virgin Suicides,' and Kathryn Bigelow since 'Near Dark.'
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Post by: oldkid on December 25, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
And my great reviews for Reichardt's films have nothing to do with her being a woman-- they are great films, and deserve the praise.

I don't think anyone gives more positive reviews for women because they are women.  But certainly we encourage people to check out films by female directors.
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Post by: Wilson on July 27, 2012, 08:25:09 AM
Almost time for the 2012 edition.

The voting and layout has changed a lot since the 1st year, for the better I feel but I am looking for your feedback as this is as much of a community exercise as anything else.

Does anybody have any problems/suggestions/general queries regarding the voting structure?  I've been using the same structure for the last 3 years and it has provided mostly consistent results.

I don't necessarily want to change it, just to change it. However, I am wary that people may be getting bored and the top 100 might be a little stagnant.

Other general questions I'm interested in:

1) First and foremost, do we want a new top 100 this year?  Are people happy to continue with this being an annual thing?

2) Is a top 100 enough?  Do people want to extend it?  If so, what should we extend it to?

3) Should mini-series be included?  I have always went along with the theory that a mini series is not a movie, and thus shouldn't be included, but I am open to it if enough people want it.

Feel free to use this as a jump off for discussion of anything top 100 related.
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Post by: MartinTeller on July 27, 2012, 08:38:30 AM
1) First and foremost, do we want a new top 100 this year?  Are people happy to continue with this being an annual thing?

2) Is a top 100 enough?  Do people want to extend it?  If so, what should we extend it to?

3) Should mini-series be included?  I have always went along with the theory that a mini series is not a movie, and thus shouldn't be included, but I am open to it if enough people want it.

1) Oh hell yes, I've been working on it.

2) 100 is good.  With the spreadsheet made available, people can see the runner-ups if they're curious.

3) I say yes.  Miniseries (and TV movies) are conceived and constructed much in the same way as theatrical films.
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Post by: 1SO on July 27, 2012, 08:44:44 AM
I think the voting structure has always been fair.

1) First and foremost, do we want a new top 100 this year?  Are people happy to continue with this being an annual thing?

2) Is a top 100 enough?  Do people want to extend it?  If so, what should we extend it to?

3) Should mini-series be included?  I have always went along with the theory that a mini series is not a movie, and thus shouldn't be included, but I am open to it if enough people want it.

1) Yes. Even with our other projects, if we skipped a year I think we'd miss it.

2) Agree with Martin. 100 is the right number, but I'd like to know the next 10-50 that missed the cut.

3) While the line is blurring between movie and TV Movie and Miniseries, I still see them as a separate category. This gets murkier if you include films that went straight to DVD, getting only an international release or no release at all.
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Post by: Bondo on July 27, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
I recently updated my top-100 so I'll certainly send it in but otherwise I'm not sure I'll invest much into the process. I'm more keen about updating the animation list but with retrospots and brackets going I'm not sure how much involvement that would get. I sometimes think we make too big a deal out of our lists in these things...feeling like we have to watch a ton of new stuff or otherwise having people feel like they aren't well versed enough to participate.
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Post by: oldkid on July 27, 2012, 10:19:57 AM
I agree with 1SO and Martin.  Annual is good, 100 is the right number (for some people, 100 is pretty overwhelming), and even though there's a miniseries I'd love to see ranked high, that's a different art form.

Although, in the end, what is the difference between a six hour movie and a miniseries?
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Post by: verbALs on July 27, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
Expanding the list to 250 would help me to reconcile my old top 100 with a completely new list, that I planned to submit. I don't expect everyone to have their film reviews and rankings databased, so I can understand if most would want to keep it manageable at 100.
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Post by: AAAutin on July 27, 2012, 10:26:42 AM
3) Should mini-series be included?

I think there should be nuance in the categorization. For example, I would include something like THE STAIRCASE--a six-hour documentary presented as a television mini-series--but not GENERATION KILL, a season-long series developed for HBO. So, for me, I suppose the qualifying question would be: Is this truly episodic in nature, or a long-form piece broken down into episodic chunks?
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Post by: Bondo on July 27, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
The closest to a miniseries that would make my list is Arabian Nights, a long-ish film that was shown as a two-night TV event. I imagine the real intent of the question though relates to The Dekalog, the only miniseries I really imagine being in contention. It's hard to say The Dekalog should count but Generation Kill shouldn't.
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Post by: Jared on July 27, 2012, 10:42:25 AM
I would love to do this again.

The submittals should only be a list of 100 movies. With the results list, the more the merrier in my opinion. It seems like a pain in the ass for you to get the whole list looking as great as it always does though (thank you by the way). But if you were willing to put that together for 200 or 250, I would love it personally.

Dont know what to do for miniseries. I usually tend to think of one director ventures like Berlin Alexanderplatz, Lonesome Dove or Dekalog as movies, but joint efforts like Band of Brothers as TV shows. It's a medium that presents a lot of atypical cases.
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Post by: AAAutin on July 27, 2012, 10:44:07 AM
I imagine the real intent of the question though relates to The Dekalog, the only miniseries I really imagine being in contention.

But I'd argue that THE DEKALOG can easily be broken up into its component parts.
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Post by: mañana on July 27, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
I imagine the real intent of the question though relates to The Dekalog, the only miniseries I really imagine being in contention.
Scenes from a Marriage was also originally a 6 episode TV series.
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Post by: sdedalus on July 27, 2012, 10:59:35 AM
Yes, yes and I'm with Jared and AAAutin on miniseries: Decalogue and Carlos yes, Generation Kill no.
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Post by: 1SO on July 27, 2012, 11:16:42 AM
Is this truly episodic in nature, or a long-form piece broken down into episodic chunks?

What about Lord of the Rings, Kill Bill and Harry Potter?
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Post by: AAAutin on July 27, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
What about Lord of the Rings, Kill Bill and Harry Potter?

None of these are mini-series. They can all be listed as individual films.
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Post by: smirnoff on July 27, 2012, 03:11:03 PM
Is there too many in play to just handle it on a case by case basis (poll 'em)? We only need results for miniseries people are actually considering for their 100. How many is that? <10?
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Post by: MartinTeller on July 27, 2012, 03:13:46 PM
Unless Scenes from a Marriage or Fanny & Alexander are in contention (both had theatrical releases), I don't have any special cases I'm considering for my top 100.
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Post by: smirnoff on July 27, 2012, 03:17:30 PM
I would put Lonesome Dove on my list if I could.
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Post by: saltine on July 27, 2012, 03:44:30 PM
I would put Lonesome Dove on my list if I could.

It's that good!
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Post by: pixote on July 27, 2012, 04:04:55 PM
I would put Lonesome Dove on my list if I could.

It's that good!

I vote ineligible, lol. (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9634/tempqgs.jpg) (Possible spoiler.)

pixote
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Post by: oldkid on July 27, 2012, 04:13:07 PM
Are television movies included?  For instance: Temple Grandin, which was on HBO.  If so, should a long story like Lonesome Dove also be included?

As much as I love Dekalog and I'd love to see it included, the fact that it is a series of shorts and not one story disqualifies it for me.

Carlos, Fanny and Alexander and Scenes from a Marriage all have a theatrical release version.   If we are including television movies, I don't see why we shouldn't include their miniseries versions.  But would the votes be split between the two versions?

I'd love for the opportunity to vote for Kill Bill and The Godfather I and II as one film each.  (I saw The Godfather Saga first before watching the two films separately).  I think that each film is better as one narrative, rather than split up in their respective parts.  But it doesn't make sense to vote that way since no one else does.
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Post by: Verite on July 27, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
3) Should mini-series be included?

I think there should be nuance in the categorization. For example, I would include something like THE STAIRCASE--a six-hour documentary presented as a television mini-series--but not GENERATION KILL, a season-long series developed for HBO. So, for me, I suppose the qualifying question would be: Is this truly episodic in nature, or a long-form piece broken down into episodic chunks?

Generation Kill was only 7 episodes.  The running time is 64 to 70 minutes for each epi.  I think it's a very cohesive work as much as Scenes from a Marriage and Fanny and Alexander.  But I'm pretty sure I'm alone on that.
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Post by: smirnoff on July 27, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
I loved GK but would probably vote to exclude it. I don't necessarily have any criteria... just kind of going with what feels right.

I would put Lonesome Dove on my list if I could.

It's that good!

I vote ineligible, lol. (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9634/tempqgs.jpg) (Possible spoiler.)

pixote

Haha, you son of a! You just couldn't let that snake thing go could ya. :D

...

You're right though, it's awful.
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Post by: AAAutin on July 27, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Generation Kill was only 7 episodes.

Ah, so you're right. (Felt like a full HBO season.) I love it, but I still wouldn't count it.

As much as I love Dekalog and I'd love to see it included, the fact that it is a series of shorts and not one story disqualifies it for me.

Right, which is why I think it should be broken up into individual films.

(I saw The Godfather Saga first before watching the two films separately).

I think you should list THE GODFATHER SAGA. That's a specific edit that joins the first two films, much like KILL BILL: THE WHOLE BLOODY AFFAIR; different from putting down THE GODFATHER I & II or KILL BILL I & II.
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Post by: Verite on July 27, 2012, 04:43:36 PM
Generation Kill was only 7 episodes.

Ah, so you're right. (Felt like a full HBO season.) I love it, but I still wouldn't count it.

I loved GK but would probably vote to exclude it. I don't necessarily have any criteria... just kind of going with what feels right.

I made (didn't post it up, though) a combined top 100 last year including films, tv series (not just mini-series) and stand-up specials.  Made a video, too, but I lost it.  :'(
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Post by: Verite on July 27, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
damn :'(

Lots of The Sopranos clips in it  8)
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Post by: pixote on July 27, 2012, 04:49:58 PM
damn :'(

Lots of The Sopranos clips in it  8)

Mostly from "A Hit Is a Hit", one assumes.

pixote
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Post by: AAAutin on July 27, 2012, 04:50:45 PM
I made (didn't post it up, though) a combined top 100 last year including films, tv series (not just mini-series) and stand-up specials.  Made a video, too, but I lost it.  :'(

NOOOOOOOO!!!

That's it, we're gonna have to do a Top 100 Television Miscellanea in hopes of a miraculous resurrection.
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Post by: Verite on July 27, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
*grabs a phone from the bar. starts beating Ver with it*

*imagines Simon Yam as Vito and flieger as Finn*

*imagines Simon Yam as Tony and Lam Suet as Georgie*


damn :'(

Lots of The Sopranos clips in it  8)

Mostly from "A Hit Is a Hit", one assumes.

lmaoooooo.  I'm pretty sure I didn't even look at that epi for stuff to use.


That's it, we're gonna have to do a Top 100 Television Miscellanea in hopes of a miraculous resurrection.

I'd be down for a top 100 moving pictures list or something.  Though this time around, I'll just exhibit restraint and choose one clip for each entry.  For The Sopranos, it would have to be Chris' intervention.
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Post by: verbALs on July 27, 2012, 05:05:30 PM
Top 100 non-diagetic sounds....whose with me!
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Post by: verbALs on July 27, 2012, 05:06:16 PM
Top 1000 sounds that don't quite match up....let's do it!
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Post by: MartinTeller on July 27, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
Top 100 non-diagetic sounds....whose with me!

*fart*


oh sorry, that was diegetic
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Post by: verbALs on July 27, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Unless you squirmed uncomfortably and then the sound followed a second later, followed by a pause to let the MEANING sink in (ignore me, I'm drunk)
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Post by: smirnoff on July 27, 2012, 05:18:39 PM
(http://us12.memecdn.com/drunk-baby_c_480931.jpg)
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Post by: verbALs on July 27, 2012, 05:29:36 PM
Start them early, it's better in the long run.
(Is that child touching that woman up?)