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Title: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 08, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
K - so I needed a place to make general observations - here it is...


So Carolina Chocolate Drops?
Anyone familiar with them?
Thoughts?


How badass is the new Galactic album?
Am seriously diggin on this.

And new School of Seven Bells - like the Cocteau Twins on crack.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 23, 2012, 01:45:31 PM
K - gonna keep talking to myself...

I am actually enjoying The Hunger Games Soundtrack.

I like the twangy americana vibe mixed in with alt rock.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on March 23, 2012, 01:49:53 PM
I would have participated but I'm too out of touch.  Your first post reads like this to me:

K - so I needed a place to make general observations - here it is...


blah blah blah blah blah?
Anyone familiar with them?
Thoughts?


How badass is the new blah blah blah album?
Am seriously diggin on this.

And new blah blah blah blah blah - like the Cocteau Twins on crack.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 23, 2012, 06:04:43 PM
Yeah - it pretty much sounded like that in my head too MT.

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Post by: ¡Keith! on March 23, 2012, 07:05:45 PM
looked at the Hunger Games set while my iced caramel macchiato was being prepped... seemed like something that would interest me.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: FLYmeatwad on March 31, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
Been an ultra dank year for hip hop, and it looks to get even better in the coming months. Not even sure what the best song of the year is yet (but it's probs "Hands on the Wheel"), but damn if hip hop ain't dominating my list.

EDIT: Further complicating my Quarterly Review process is the last hour submission #1 Bitch mixtape from Lil B. I still haven't listened to the massive God's Father, and here's another 28 tracks!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jim brown on March 31, 2012, 11:33:43 PM
She said I'll see you in the morning,
Darling, I see you when the kids have gone to school
well I know tomorrow is your birthday
I know you know that you're are an April Fool
We used to roam so freely.
It's been so long
I take my dreams to bed now where they belong
She said there's dust and cobwebs on your north star
There no more fussing the campfires in yer hair
I'll see the wheels there rusted in the backyard
I know we're not going anywhere
We used to roam so freely.
It's been so long
I take my dreams to bed now where they belong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_iYDL_bszg)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on April 26, 2012, 09:08:02 AM
this song is freaky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0ZJHVH17I

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on June 12, 2012, 10:09:39 AM
Remember when you were thirteen or so and you liked every song on Changesonebowie  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changesonebowie) except “John, I'm Only Dancing”? And now you realize it’s the best song on the album. Life’s funny, eh?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 12, 2012, 10:20:06 AM
New Metric album!!!!
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 12, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
Also, the new Charli XCX EP is out today. I wish it was the actual album though!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on June 13, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
This value system that says Jonny Greenwood is more valuable than Ritchie Blackmore. Not in the world I grew up in, buddy. Not in the world I grew up in.

:D
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on June 13, 2012, 10:12:34 AM
This value system that says Jonny Greenwood is more valuable than Ritchie Blackmore. Not in the world I grew up in, buddy. Not in the world I grew up in.

:D

I had to look up Jonny Greenwood but Ritchie Blackmore is one of my all time favourite guitar players
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on June 13, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
I don't know much other than the "Smoke on the Water" riff, I just like it when Corgan's a grump.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on June 13, 2012, 10:38:45 AM
I don't know much other than the "Smoke on the Water" riff, I just like it when Corgan's a grump.

I never quite understood why Smoke on the Water was so popular.

his live playing I always thought better and how he had great touch, this something from him Rainbow days playing some blues and then a song based on Beethoven's Ode to Joy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKf7oYywdS8
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 14, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
Billy is such a tool, love it. Actually saw Radiohead just last night and we were joking about that... Johnny's much better than Billy, that's for sure.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on June 24, 2012, 03:56:25 AM
There's an interview in The Guardian with Elizabeth Fraser (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jun/24/elizabeth-fraser-meltdown-cocteau-twins), ex Cocteau Twins, it's well worth a read. She lives in Bristol now?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on June 24, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
There's an interview in The Guardian with Elizabeth Fraser (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jun/24/elizabeth-fraser-meltdown-cocteau-twins), ex Cocteau Twins, it's well worth a read. She lives in Bristol now?

Cool.. use to really love the Cocteau Twins and still listen to them from time to time.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on June 24, 2012, 09:26:57 AM
Sugar Hiccup- Cocteau Twins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_CHbmZIRXE)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on June 24, 2012, 09:56:38 AM
I read an interview with her probably about 16-17 years ago and remember being amazed at the potty mouth on her.  She swore like a proper sailor.
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Post by: shuabert on June 24, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
Just saw a great outdoor festival show last night: Feist and Timber Timbre. I'll be linking to photos and videos when they're up.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 28, 2012, 10:36:31 PM
There's an interview in The Guardian with Elizabeth Fraser (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jun/24/elizabeth-fraser-meltdown-cocteau-twins), ex Cocteau Twins, it's well worth a read. She lives in Bristol now?

Great article and I love the fact that she is ready to come back to music - her voice is a treasure.


Cool.. use to really love the Cocteau Twins and still listen to them from time to time.

Heaven Or Las Vegas is one of my go to albums - it's amazing.

It makes sense her in Bristol - one of the best things she's done post-CT is with Massive Attack:

http://youtu.be/PWiZ7ogzaaY
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: spoko on July 11, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
I keep having Silversun Pickups songs popping up on my radar, one way and another. Is it me, or do they sound like a washed out, bubblegummed version of Filter? I know Filter might be a bit of an obscure touchpoint, but really that's what they sound like to me. Besides, consider my audience. You all know who Filter were, right?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: spoko on July 11, 2012, 10:20:43 AM
Holy crap, it turns out Filter are still around. That's just weird.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 11, 2012, 11:19:57 AM
Always thought there were some similarities to Smashing Pumpkins....
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: pixote on July 20, 2012, 10:59:14 AM
Remember when you were thirteen or so and you liked every song on Changesonebowie  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changesonebowie) except “John, I'm Only Dancing”? And now you realize it’s the best song on the album. Life’s funny, eh?

Just taking a moment to appreciate this post.

pixote
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on July 20, 2012, 11:56:42 AM
 :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 26, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
I really like the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack....
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on November 09, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
The Killers Hot Fuss album, is one helluva an album, it's one of my favourites ;D.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on November 26, 2012, 08:57:50 PM
Not sure why this popped in my head, and I'm not necessarily proud that it did, but it is what it is. At least I will present it in academic form:

Ke$ha : A Prostitute :: Lana Del Rey : An Escort

I guess the general thought that came into my head was that Lana Del Rey is the classier version on Ke$ha. I don't know.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on November 26, 2012, 09:34:08 PM
Am in the middle of a Dinosaur Jr rediscovery.
Really lovin it.

Also - I don't understand all of the hate on LDR.
I like her.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on November 26, 2012, 09:49:52 PM
Am in the middle of a Dinosaur Jr rediscovery.
Really lovin it.
J Mascis is on the new WTF.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on November 27, 2012, 05:57:12 AM
Also - I don't understand all of the hate on LDR.
I like her.

Oh, so do I. I like Ke$ha too actually. I think my analogy tackles their personas more so than their music.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on November 27, 2012, 10:13:36 AM
Haha, in Corn's Madonna–whore complex, they're both sex trade workers.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Verite on December 08, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
This might be of interest.  Scott Walker chose 10 of his favorite films for Curzon Cinemas' On Demand service:

The Travelling Players; Le Quattro Volte; The White Ribbon; The Story of the Last Crysanthemums; Utamaro and His Five Women; La Cérémonie; The Match Factory Girl; Take Care of Your Scarf, Tatjana; Il Divo; The Turin Horse .

Some screenshots and synopses of the films here (http://www.curzoncinemas.com/film_on_demand/).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: roujin on December 08, 2012, 09:39:50 PM
But in France, they only wanted to talk to him about American movies.
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Post by: mañana on December 08, 2012, 10:09:22 PM
 8)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on May 07, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
15 Albums That All Hipsters Love (http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2013/01/10-albums-that-all-hipsters-love/)

The only one of these I own is Daydream Nation.  It is listed in my top 100 albums, but after revisiting it (for Sandy's thread) I discovered I'm not all that into it any more.

I've tried several times to get into In the Aeroplane Over the Sea.  It just doesn't do much for me.  I like that "Holland 1945" or whatever song.

I've heard the Modest Mouse and I like it, but I don't think I own it anymore.

I used to own that Aphex Twin but I never cared for it.  I only like his ambient stuff.

Portishead and Daft Punk are cool, but I've never heard those albums all the way through. 

The rest of them I've never listened to.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on May 07, 2013, 04:01:24 PM
15 Albums That All Hipsters Love (http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2013/01/10-albums-that-all-hipsters-love/)

I've got five of those albums, so that makes me a 33.3% hipster 8). 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 07, 2013, 04:02:54 PM
Yea, I tried Aeroplane a few times. I don't get it. Also, I don't own any of these and don't care for those I have listened to. Haven't listened to Homework, though.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: roujin on May 07, 2013, 04:06:52 PM
On Rate Your Music, I tagged all of those as "indie classics."
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Post by: ¡Keith! on May 07, 2013, 04:13:24 PM
that is a fairly diverse collection of some of the best albums ever.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on May 07, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
15 Albums That All Hipsters Love (http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2013/01/10-albums-that-all-hipsters-love/)

I've got five of those albums, so that makes me a 33.3% hipster 8).

Same. A few other albums by some of the others (Modest Mouse).
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Post by: sdedalus on May 07, 2013, 04:19:06 PM
I own and like many of those albums.
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Post by: Corndog on May 07, 2013, 04:28:02 PM
Like Funeral and Give Up. Haven't even really listened to the rest of the stuff. Love Radiohead, but I like my Radiohead as accessible as possible, which, if I recall correctly, Kid A is not very.
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Post by: Bondo on May 07, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
I have songs from a number of those but Give Up is the only album I have. So not a hipster.
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Post by: Monty on May 07, 2013, 05:07:31 PM
that is a fairly diverse collection of some of the best albums ever.

How many albums do you have iKeith? I'm guessing your our hippest hipster?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: FLYmeatwad on May 07, 2013, 06:49:09 PM
Grizzly Bear are so dull, like Beach House. Speaking of which, where is Beach House? Where is Animal Collective?

Also, Aeroplane is a CINECAST!ing masterpiece. FLY is already prepared to sell his life when more nationwide NMH dates are revealed in the future.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on May 07, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
Speaking of dull, I imagine Bon Iver is too new for this list or something.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 08, 2013, 12:29:50 AM
that is a fairly diverse collection of some of the best albums ever.

How many albums do you have iKeith? I'm guessing your our hippest hipster?

I've moved beyond credentialing as the possession of a specific collection of songs - so twothousandandlate.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: don s. on May 08, 2013, 12:59:30 AM
15 Albums That All Hipsters Love (http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2013/01/10-albums-that-all-hipsters-love/)


own on cd: Wilco, Radiohead, Grizzly Bear, Portishead, Postal Service, Sonic Youth

plus, in my iTunes library: Neutral Milk Hotel, Arcade Fire, Aphex Twin

I confess I'm not sure what The Knife is.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: 'Noke on May 08, 2013, 09:13:07 AM
Speaking of dull, I imagine Bon Iver is too new for this list or something.

They aren't newer than Grizzly Bear though.

In terms of the weird moniker of "hipster", Portishead is a strange choice. I never thought if as hipster ever. It is great though.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on May 08, 2013, 09:52:51 AM
I never thought if as hipster ever.

"Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the hipster in the first half hour at the table, then you ARE the hipster."
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on June 12, 2013, 10:36:24 PM
Replacements reunion at Riot Fest  (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/turnitup/chi-replacements-reunion-20130612,0,5308483.column)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on June 19, 2013, 09:32:47 AM
SIGUR RÓS - KVEIKUR LIVE 360 (http://sigur-ros.co.uk/kveikurlive360/)

A SPECIAL INTERACTIVE 360° WEBCAST STARTS JUNE 19 - 20.50 CET (world times)

To celebrate the release of their new album Kveikur, Sigur Rós will play a selection of songs from the record live during a special 360° interactive webcast from Dresden, Germany. During the show fans will be able to take control of the 360 cameras and watch the show from whichever angle they choose.

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on June 30, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
What is the proper length for an album?

Recognizing that some great albums can be very different lengths, perhaps the question should be asked, how do we know that an album is too long, or too short?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 30, 2013, 05:29:29 PM
For me, it usually has more to do with quality and flow. As long as an album is able to be consistent and feel like each song contributes, I don't think the length matters.

Don't think I ever thought and album was too short, but I can think of more than a few albums I thought would be better if they lost a few tracks.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on June 30, 2013, 06:08:50 PM
The flow is very important to me, too.  Some of my favorite albums are actually portions of albums that have a continuity... until they go a certain distance and then it's gone.  I've had albums that would have been perfect if it were cut by three songs.  But then I would have felt cheated because the album was "short".  On the other hand, I've had "double" albums are are perfect... the flow is consistent, but it was still too long.  Not that I didn't appreciate all the tracks, eventually.  But it seems that my attention is only good for up to an hour of music at a time, and then I want to move on.  Perhaps to other music, but I'm still moving on.

How often is it that an artist can have a single artistic vision that lasts for a full 50 minutes?  Isn't that pretty rare?  Or is it my attention that is lost?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: don s. on June 30, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
How often is it that an artist can have a single artistic vision that lasts for a full 50 minutes?  Isn't that pretty rare?  Or is it my attention that is lost?

Tell it to Wagner.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on June 30, 2013, 07:31:45 PM
How often is it that an artist can have a single artistic vision that lasts for a full 50 minutes?  Isn't that pretty rare?  Or is it my attention that is lost?

Tell it to Wagner.

Wagner would fall under my definition of "rare", I think.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: don s. on June 30, 2013, 10:02:30 PM
My glib point about Wagner is that the concept of "album length" has existed only since the advent of the mechanical reproduction of music and has been mostly a function of technology and marketing; i.e., how much music fits on a wax cylinder vs. an LP vs. a CD vs. an iPod, and how much will people pay for it? I'm under the assumption that the new era of digital downloads will ultimately make albums irrelevant.

I grew up in the LP era. It drove me nuts, for example, that Beatles albums in the U.K. contained 14 tracks while the U.S. albums contained only 12 -- sometimes only 11. For some reason recently I was listening to some old Simon and Garfunkel albums from the '60s: most of those clocked in at under 30 minutes. Cheap bastards! (Though it's hard to imagine "Bookends" being improved by adding a bunch of extra tracks.) Meanwhile there's this anomaly: Todd Rundgren put out a double album in 1974 called "Todd"; the following year, he put out an album called "Initiation," a single disk that contained more music than the previous double album.

(Who here remembers triple-album sets wherein the disks contained sides 1&6, 2&5, and 3&4 so you could stack them on a changer and then just flip the stack over when the first three sides had finished playing? This is the kind of fun some of you youngsters missed out on...)

The early CD era was characterized by reissues of LPs with random "bonus tracks" that took advantage of the longer playing time; sometimes these tracks were inserted between what had previously been the two sides of the original LP. Those rare instances always struck me as weird, if not sacrilegious.

Having said that, I think that albums that end up being anything more than a random collection of tracks are few and far between, despite the best efforts of cross-faders, skit-makers, or concept-promulgators. The only unifying principle is of course the fact that an artist or band is going to sound more like him/her/itself from track to track than something else.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: shuabert on July 01, 2013, 01:53:59 AM
I'm mostly in agreement here with Sam and oldkid. I read an article once that argued that roughly 45 minutes was the "perfect" length for an album, and listed Dark Side of the Moon as its exemplar. I tend to kind of agree with that, not on the bottom end, because short albums can have a great sense of urgency, but as a maximum, as there are so many albums that burn me out when they go longer than 50 minutes. Some are exceptions to that rule, and end up maintaining what you guys called "flow" all the way through. But that is somewhat rare. Even really good bands irritate me when they refuse to cut 2 or 3 songs and insist on having a 60 minute album that doesn't need to be that long (I'm looking at you, Modest Mouse).

The point on LP length and space restrictions is an interesting one too. Last year I named a double album my #1 record of the year (Baroness' "Yellow & Green"). It, like The Flaming Lips' Embryonic, feels sonically appropriate as a double album, but neither exceeds the 80 minute length of a single compact disc, so I can only assume the choice to split those was artistic, rather than practical.

I've become really jaded with the recent trend towards "Deluxe" edition albums, where the standard 10-12 song album proper is supplemented with an extra 2 or 5 or 9 "bonus" songs, most of which are usually throwaway b-sides. But, being a neurotic completist, I feel the need to listen to the Deluxe Edition just in case there are one or two great songs that didn't make the album. Sometimes there are, but it almost never enhances the album experience. It feels like a good trailer attached to a completely different movie.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on July 01, 2013, 04:30:18 AM
I'm mostly in agreement here with Sam and oldkid. I read an article once that argued that roughly 45 minutes was the "perfect" length for an album, and listed Dark Side of the Moon as its exemplar.

I suppose similar logic can be applied to film though longer length?

Of course, it just very subjective at which point an album or film starts feeling a bit stretched or two long.  Some that are long still feel too short.

One other limit to the 45 minute mark was the limitation of vinyl.  Somewhere around 22-23 minutes per side would start decreasing the sound quality as they packed the groves in closer together from what I remember.  Though they could go longer it wasn't ideal

that would also put a limit on the length of a song as well.  Both Echoes and Adom Heart Mother go over 23 minutes but which fit just nice on a single side LP

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on July 01, 2013, 08:32:02 AM
(Who here remembers triple-album sets wherein the disks contained sides 1&6, 2&5, and 3&4 so you could stack them on a changer and then just flip the stack over when the first three sides had finished playing? This is the kind of fun some of you youngsters missed out on...)
Sandinista!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 08, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
Has anyone heard Paul Williams' Someday Man before? I stumbled across it the other day and I'm falling hard for it.

Spotify link (http://open.spotify.com/album/17591i6nEtgHiKBGfgLwfG)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on July 09, 2013, 10:39:04 PM
Don't know it, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on July 17, 2013, 07:28:42 AM
Mazzy Star To Return With First Album Since 1996 (http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/mazzy-star-to-return-with-first-album-since-1996-this-september-130731) :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on July 17, 2013, 01:02:31 PM
How funny, I woke up today with "Halah" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzWYUomBpwg) in my head

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on August 29, 2013, 12:45:45 AM
Mazzy Star To Return With First Album Since 1996 (http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/mazzy-star-to-return-with-first-album-since-1996-this-september-130731) :)

Great news..never thought I would see this news. Just looked at Hope Sandoval's official page, had no idea that they actually had done a (limited) tour last year...
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Post by: IDrinkYourMilkshake on August 30, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
Someone help me out with this, please? I've been trying to find this song now for literally minutes, but I can't find it. The chorus goes something like "You'll be lee-aaving town tonight, on the last traaiiin home". The singer sounds a lot like Stuart Murdoch from Belle and Sebastian but, so far as I am aware, it is not a Belle and Sebastian song.

anyone?....
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on August 30, 2013, 04:26:09 PM
Someone help me out with this, please? I've been trying to find this song now for literally minutes, but I can't find it. The chorus goes something like "You'll be lee-aaving town tonight, on the last traaiiin home". The singer sounds a lot like Stuart Murdoch from Belle and Sebastian but, so far as I am aware, it is not a Belle and Sebastian song.

anyone?....
 

What kinda arrangement? acoustic, string-led, etc etc?
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Post by: IDrinkYourMilkshake on August 30, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
Acoustic I think, but I think there are some drums in there. It sounds just like Belle and Sebastian.
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Post by: colonel_mexico on October 25, 2013, 04:48:46 AM
I was making my way through the 4th season of Breaking Bad (and I apologize I know this is a movie forum and I really don't spend much time on television at all), but found the tune 1977 by Ana Tijoux rather interesting.  Probably not for most people as it is hip hop/rap and what's funny is I'm the type that has A Perfect Circle in the ipod, but found this song kinda cool.  Also, isn't Santa Esmeralda's cover of The Animal's Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood freakin awesome?  It was in Kill Bill Vol. 1, that whole soundtrack in fact is solid.  I try to throw that tune on when I go to the bar, but most jukeboxes don't have it, usually just the original Animal's version.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: sdb_1970 on December 25, 2013, 07:50:03 PM
Dear Kelly Clarkson-

If you are show-boating your range and smiling during a performance of "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas," then you just don't get it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4lY8Y3eoo
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Totoro on January 23, 2014, 02:52:45 AM
I love how "Blow" is pretty much Beyonce saying, "I have an awesome tasting vagina." The sexual confidence is awesome, kind of makes every other current female artist look like a schoolgirl. Bey is a woman.

:gushing:
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: shuabert on January 23, 2014, 11:48:03 PM
I love how "Blow" is pretty much Beyonce saying, "I have an awesome tasting vagina." The sexual confidence is awesome, kind of makes every other current female artist look like a schoolgirl. Bey is a woman.

:gushing:

That's what makes this album so incredible. She takes these themes of female sexuality, desire, motherhood, feminism, companionship, and mortality that our society wants to keep discreet, and mashes them together so elegantly and effortlessly that it will further frustrate those who want the reality of Beyonce to be one thing that matches their idea of Beyonce. This is her DGAF, her Yeezus, the high point of her career, and it's in my top ten of the year.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on February 06, 2014, 01:19:00 PM
So Lorde released an extended album with 5 more songs. I know they've been doing a lot of special edition releases with bonus songs and music videos and live versions and such but this one was more annoying than most in the DVD re-release, now with special features, kind of way. The way iTunes store does albums, there is not complete your album compatibility between versions so all this just makes the process that much more annoying. Why does the music industry insist on antagonizing their customers and driving them to less buying and more streaming.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 09, 2014, 10:37:30 AM
FLY has been going hard on Young Thug for the past couple of months.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 11, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
Just discovered this for some reason... it's amazing.

http://www.avclub.com/search?feature_types=hatesong
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 11, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
Haha, that's pretty funny. The Lynch one made me grin.
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Post by: MartinTeller on February 11, 2014, 12:40:40 PM
I read those all the time, but somehow I missed this one (http://www.avclub.com/article/mickey-dean-ween-melchiondo-on-why-he-hates-4-non--98674).

Oh yes.  God yes.  I want to punch that song in the privates.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 11, 2014, 12:42:16 PM
 ;D
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Post by: mañana on February 11, 2014, 12:44:27 PM
If asked I'd do Chris de Burgh's "Lady in Red" or Extreme's "Get the Funk Out".
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 11, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
Someone already took Kid Rock's "Bawitdaba," though "All Summer Long" is probably even more offensive.

High on my list would be P.O.D's "Youth of a Nation" Good Charlotte's "The Anthem" and Yellowcard's "Ocean Avenue" but I think Everclear's "Father of Mine" would take the cake.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on February 11, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
I'd say Two Princes or What's Up but both are so obviously crap it goes without saying. McCulloch on Little Help From My Friends is just funny.

Personally With or Without You by U2 needs nuking from orbit.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 11, 2014, 02:23:59 PM
Confession... of all the 90's crap, I don't count "Two Princes" among it. Pocket is an inoffensive time capsule of a particular era.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on February 11, 2014, 02:39:55 PM
You put your finger on it. Inoffensive music like nails on a blackboard.  You have such good taste man. I'm going to have to re-evaluate my opinion of THAT? Too much  I'm not big enough. I admit it.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on February 11, 2014, 02:59:57 PM
Confession: I once enjoyed the Spin Doctors so much I actually went to see them live.  It was just a few months before they broke big.

Although I got bored with them pretty quick, I still think they're okay.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 11, 2014, 04:28:06 PM
You put your finger on it. Inoffensive music like nails on a blackboard.  You have such good taste man. I'm going to have to re-evaluate my opinion of THAT? Too much  I'm not big enough. I admit it.

haha, yeah, in some things, I find inoffensiveness to be the worst of all possible options. in music though, for me, there are certain options that stir up waves of viceral offense that it almost quaint to think of some of that non-offensive material in the same kind of context.

The combination of melody, harmony, lyrical content, how a vocal strikes you adversely, to a lesser degree musicianship, to an surprisingly large degree how it fits into your own cultural puzzle, ect feels like an astounding and unique enterprise when thinking of how its possible to illogically adore or despise a 3 minute aural object. Was it a grossly overplayed hit, did yr friends like it and you just never joined in, how is it tied into your life at the time, the song of THAT summer or something that you shared with a grandparent or a hated Ex's favorite jam ect. Sense memory, nostalgia, 3 chords, the truth, ect.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on February 11, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
Well, this (http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/02/06/272457460/the-worst-songs-of-all-time?utm_source=allsongs&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=20140211) seems relevant.

Without listening to what they have to say, here's my take on their choices:

'Wonderful Christmas Time' - I frickin' love this song.

'No Rain' - Yeah, this is pretty annoying, but I haven't thought about it in years.

'I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)' - You gotta be kidding me! Greatness!

'It's A Small World' - Goes without saying

'We Built This City' - Easily in my top 5 most hated songs.  An obvious choice, but one that cannot be ignored.

'We Are The World' - Yeah, I guess.  It definitely pales in comparison to "Do They Know It's Xmas?" and the other throw-a-bunch-of-stars-in-a-recording-studio-for-social-justice song of the era, "Sun City"

'Dirty Laundry' - Ugh, Henley.  Very grating song.

'Baby, I Love Your Way' - Trite and bland, but I kinda like it.

'MacArthur Park' - Gets referenced a lot, but it was always too far off my radar to bother me.  Listening now, yeah, it's rather intolerable.

'Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da' - There are way worse Beatles songs, but I guess it had some personal relevance for this guy.

'Brown Eyed Girl' - Ha, I love Carrie Brownstein's explanation for hating it.  I imagine that would drive me nuts too.

'Don't Stop' - The Clintons killed this one.

'Paradise by the Dashboard Light' - Never liked Meatloaf

'Aba Daba Honeymoon' - One of my favorite parts of Two Weeks With Love but I can see how this would get on someone's nerves.  In fact, I doubt I would ever want to listen to it out of context.

'Blue (Da Ba Dee)' - This one is new to me.  Yeah, this is bad.  Novelty songs are generally a drag.

'Dur dur d'être bébé!' - Another new one.  See above, but even worse.

'Mambo No. 5' - I don't know why this was ever a hit.  It's not unbearably annoying to me, but I sure don't love it.

'Do You Know the Way to San Jose' - Come on now.  You don't mess with Bacharach/David/Warwick.

'Africa' - I love this one too!  Yeah, the lyrics are godawful but I dig the music.

'Wild, Wild West' - Ugh!  I'd forgotten this existed.  I'm annoyed that I'm now reminded of it.

'We Didn't Start the Fire' - Maybe #1 for me.  Everything, simply everything about this song is terrible. 

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on February 11, 2014, 05:47:50 PM
Some good stuff on that list.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 11, 2014, 10:40:50 PM
Some good stuff on that list.

seriously.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on February 11, 2014, 11:58:12 PM
The combination of melody, harmony, lyrical content, how a vocal strikes you adversely, to a lesser degree musicianship, to an surprisingly large degree how it fits into your own cultural puzzle, ect feels like an astounding and unique enterprise when thinking of how its possible to illogically adore or despise a 3 minute aural object. Was it a grossly overplayed hit, did yr friends like it and you just never joined in, how is it tied into your life at the time, the song of THAT summer or something that you shared with a grandparent or a hated Ex's favorite jam ect. Sense memory, nostalgia, 3 chords, the truth, ect.

(borrowing smirnoff's gif)   (http://i62.tinypic.com/21jorrt.jpg)



Would you like to take over my music thread ¡Keith! :D
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on February 12, 2014, 01:43:50 AM
LOL "Why he hates Kumbaya"

The Some Nights one got me irked because he talked about it cribbing from Cecilia, which is a big reach. Apparently that song claims ownership on an entire phonetic sound, and "oh" at that.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 12, 2014, 02:11:30 AM
The combination of melody, harmony, lyrical content, how a vocal strikes you adversely, to a lesser degree musicianship, to an surprisingly large degree how it fits into your own cultural puzzle, ect feels like an astounding and unique enterprise when thinking of how its possible to illogically adore or despise a 3 minute aural object. Was it a grossly overplayed hit, did yr friends like it and you just never joined in, how is it tied into your life at the time, the song of THAT summer or something that you shared with a grandparent or a hated Ex's favorite jam ect. Sense memory, nostalgia, 3 chords, the truth, ect.

(borrowing smirnoff's gif)   (http://i62.tinypic.com/21jorrt.jpg)



Would you like to take over my music thread ¡Keith! :D

 :)

though maybe I'll secretly suggest ones I dislike to see the reaction :evil laugh:
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on February 13, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
"Wonderful Christmas Time"-- Closely related to MY #1 most hated song of all time-- Feliz Navidad.  It's not enough that these songs repeat themselves ad nauseum, but they are repeated endlessly every year.  As long as I go to a mall, I will never escape the repetition of these sappy holiday greetings.  I hate them both, but I can't really hate Paul McCartney, so I have to just hate Feliz Navidad with the burning hatred of a million suns.

"MacArthur Park"-- Yep, it's horrible.  But it is so over the top that it acts as it's own parody.  Yes, Weird Al took the tune and made it into Jurassic Park, but it could be a Weird Al tune all by itself.  My favorite version is by Donna Summer, but Richard Harris' version is classically bad.

"We Didn't Start the Fire"-- A mediocre song by Billy Joel is awful.  And the Company made Joel get rid of his regular band-- the guys he grew up with-- to make this album.  Trash.  However, my son loves this song.

"Africa" is pretty good.  "Do You Know the Way to San Jose?" is good.   "Paradise by the Dashboard Lights" I always found to be irritating, but it's got a Broadway feel to it that I've always liked. 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2014, 12:53:46 AM
The biggest problem with Paradise By The Dashboard Light is it is like 45 minutes long and a karaoke standard. It is also not good, which makes it worse than some of the other obnoxiously long songs that people like to sing.

I won't dignify Billy Joel hate with a response, though I don't particularly defend We Didn't Start The Fire.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on February 14, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Paradise By The Dashboard Light is terrific. Goes without saying that We Didn't Start the Fire is a living nightmare.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on February 14, 2014, 10:48:26 AM
Just to clarify, I love Billy Joel.  That's why the very-close-to-terrible song is bad.  Because he can do better.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2014, 11:21:15 AM
Ah, misinterpreted that. On the other hand, shouldn't we be willing to forgive when an artist does something kind of intentionally cheesy on a lark?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on February 14, 2014, 12:12:59 PM
That song always seemed incredibly earnest to me.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on February 25, 2014, 04:04:09 PM
Heh, Buckley's “Hallelujah (http://www.avclub.com/article/dean-reid-of-cheatahs-cant-stand-over-sincerity-of-201434)”. Cohen’s original is amazing. His 80s production values are spectacular.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on February 25, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
There's nothing wrong with Buckley's Hallelujah, it's all these other gits, Britain's got talent show etc, that have covered it since then, trying to turn out an earnest, vote winning piece of music. By the way I love Cohen's version, but that seems to be a more of a piss-up, celebratory song.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on March 07, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
I was never a big fan of Buckley's version, but yeah, its overexposure is what completely ruined it.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on March 07, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
Rufus Wainright and Brandi Carlile versions are good, I think, unless they are part of Monty's other gits.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 08, 2014, 01:29:15 PM
Yes. (http://www.avclub.com/article/bitchface-comedian-joe-mande-why-he-hates-macklemo-202946?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on April 08, 2014, 01:37:22 PM
"I’d be more surprised if he made a song about how he loves gluten."

haha
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: shuabert on April 13, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
If you disparage Buckley's "Hallelujah," I will cut you.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: 1SO on April 13, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
Zach Snyder is considered on notice.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: shuabert on April 13, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Zach Snyder is considered on notice.

Nice.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on April 20, 2014, 03:55:07 PM
What is your favorite cover?  (it has to be a cover you prefer over the original)

Inspired by listening to Lorde's version of Everybody Wants to Rule the World which is so far superior to Tears for Fears version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaVA6sgOpws&feature=kp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaVA6sgOpws&feature=kp)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: JakeIsntFake on April 23, 2014, 09:44:20 AM
When making a top albums of all times list, does anyone included any greatest hits or compilation albums?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on April 23, 2014, 09:56:06 AM
I'd probably throw a soundtrack in because it is created with some artistic intent, even if the songs weren't created originally for it. Greatest hits albums feel more like a cheat though. Still, by excluding greatest hits albums, I lose a lot of older artists where that is my main point of engagement.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: JakeIsntFake on April 23, 2014, 11:40:51 AM
Still, by excluding greatest hits albums, I lose a lot of older artists where that is my main point of engagement.

My dilemma exactly. To be specific, my main issue is with Leadbelly, where as his songs are merely collected in albums by year, thus technically all his albums are compilations.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on April 23, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
Include any collection you want, but especially in cases where the artist recorded in a period that pre-dates the album era; technology (12 inch record going 33.3 rpm) introduced in the 50s established a framework that at some point in the 60s came to define what an album is (12 songs , 45 to 60 minutes long). A definition that, by the way, again because of new technology, pop music in the process of abandoning, if we haven’t already.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on April 23, 2014, 12:48:29 PM
I don't include compilations/greatest hits unless they are collections of songs not released on albums.  For example, the songs on New Order's Substance and The Smiths' Louder Than Bombs are all exclusively from singles.  So if your Leadbelly songs were never released on an album format, I'd include the collection(s).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: shuabert on April 23, 2014, 01:06:41 PM
When making a top albums of all times list, does anyone included any greatest hits or compilation albums?

I don't include them on my yearly top 50 lists, but you could make an excuse for it in an all-time list, if you feel it represents a particular artist's career well.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on April 23, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
What is your favorite cover?  (it has to be a cover you prefer over the original)

There's too many great ones to narrow it down to "favorite", but this is one of my faves (that I prefer over the original):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o


plus, just about every cover Mark Kozelek ever did, especially the entire album of AC/DC covers
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on April 23, 2014, 06:15:05 PM
Wow, that is a truly unique cover.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on April 23, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
What is your favorite cover?  (it has to be a cover you prefer over the original)

Song - Cover artist (Original artist)

Million Dollar Bash - Fairport Convention (http://youtu.be/cAWDj31AKIQ#noexternalembed) (Bob Dylan and The Band (http://www.bobdylan.com/us/music/basement-tapes))

A Song For You - Donny Hathway (http://youtu.be/Om7gExqLjT4#noexternalembed) (Leon Russell (http://youtu.be/pk4gdU_TOXk#noexternalembed))
   
Without You - Harry Nilsson (http://youtu.be/_bQGRRolrg0#noexternalembed) (Badfinger (http://youtu.be/49dquH8tn6E#noexternalembed))

Stop Your Sobbing - The Pretenders (http://youtu.be/wB9zg_JIL0k#noexternalembed) (The Kinks (http://youtu.be/EXh2H0s50v0#noexternalembed))

Try a Little Tenderness - Otis Redding (http://youtu.be/IQ9n2_5mbig#noexternalembed) (Ray Noble (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJMFurJxxF8&list=PLE66B5FF85D5506D7&feature=share#noexternalembed) / Bing Crosby (http://youtu.be/JmRiHVmPZB8#noexternalembed))
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: heisenbergman on April 23, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
I'm not so familiar with covers, really, but Jimi Hedrix' cover of Bob Dylan's "All Along The Watchtower" and Jeff Buckley's cover of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" will always come to mind as greats, albeit the usual suspects as far as cover talk is concerned.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 22, 2014, 10:10:09 AM
The science of misheard song lyrics (http://io9.com/the-science-of-misheard-song-lyrics-1579968707)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ses on June 27, 2014, 10:27:14 AM
Is Nick Cave's Into My Arms a weird choice for a wedding song?  We can't seem to think of one except this one, it has a special meaning to us, but I wasn't sure if it was appropriate or not.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: tinyholidays on June 27, 2014, 10:36:21 AM
It's really lovely. Not offensive, unless you are having a super religious shindig.

As a walk down the aisle song or a first dance song?

My only note with it as an aisle song is that there's over a minute from the start of the song to the first chorus, so you'll want to time the walk so that chorus gets heard, otherwise, it's mainly a list of things you don't believe in, which might be weird.

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ses on June 27, 2014, 10:41:33 AM
It would be for a first dance song.  The wedding isn't super religious, but that's why that song is kind of "our song".  My fiance said that song always reminded him of us.  He's not religious at all, and I'm not super religious, but I definitely have more belief than him. 

I'm walking down the aisle to a violinist playing Gabriel's Oboe from The Mission. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QxWJR2jXD0

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on June 27, 2014, 12:24:23 PM
Is Nick Cave's Into My Arms a weird choice for a wedding song?  We can't seem to think of one except this one, it has a special meaning to us, but I wasn't sure if it was appropriate or not.  Any thoughts?

That song was used quite nicely in About Time.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ses on June 27, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
I know, I love that scene.  :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: tinyholidays on June 27, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
What a beautiful violin piece! You're going to have such a lovely wedding!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on June 27, 2014, 08:35:12 PM
What a great piece for your walk down the aisle!  I want to recommend that to everyone I marry now!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: ses on June 27, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Thank you all!  I love the music from The Mission, one of my favorites.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 20, 2014, 09:26:10 AM
15 Albums That All Hipsters Love (http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2013/01/10-albums-that-all-hipsters-love/)

9/15

Of those - Portishead, Daft Punk and The Strokes - I listen to pretty regularly. Lately I have eased up on my music purchases because I am only waiting tables and my music listening time seems to be only while driving alone in my car.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 20, 2014, 02:57:54 PM
Don't like the half I've listened to.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on July 24, 2014, 02:52:40 PM
It's time we bring "Whipping Post" back as the obnoxious song people yell out at concerts. Trouble is no one under 50 knows what it is.

#EndFreeBird'sReign 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
What's Whipping Post?

My favorite song shouting out that I've witnessed live was someone shouting for "This Is Everything" at Tegan and Sara. Valid enough, it is a song of theirs that is great. But it feels like they are just loudly proclaiming the importance of the concert in the scheme of their life.
Title: Jazz Explained
Post by: jdc on August 03, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/yogi-berra-explains-jazz-by-aaj-staff.php

By Steve Chalke
Interviewer: What do you expect is in store for the future of jazz trumpet?

Yogi: I'm thinkin' there'll be a group of guys who've never met talkin' about it all the time...

Interviewer: Can you explain jazz?

Yogi: I can't, but I will. 90% of all jazz is half improvisation. The other half is the part people play while others are playing something they never played with anyone who played that part. So if you play the wrong part, its right. If you play the right part, it might be right if you play it wrong enough. But if you play it too right, it's wrong.

Interviewer: I don't understand.

Yogi: Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's whats so simple about it.

Interviewer: Do you understand it?

Yogi: No. That's why I can explain it. If I understood it, I wouldnt know anything about it.

Interviewer: Are there any great jazz players alive today?

Yogi: No. All the great jazz players alive today are dead. Except for the ones that are still alive. But so many of them are dead, that the ones that are still alive are dying to be like the ones that are dead. Some would kill for it.

Interviewer: What is syncopation?

Yogi: That's when the note that you should hear now happens either before or after you hear it. In jazz, you don't hear notes when they happen because that would be some other type of music. Other types of music can be jazz, but only if they're the same as something different from those other kinds.

Interviewer: Now I really don't understand.

Yogi: I haven't taught you enough for you to not understand jazz that well.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on August 04, 2014, 01:10:35 AM
lol
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: The Deer Hunter on August 10, 2014, 12:37:21 AM
Almost finished my first run through of Get Hurt by The Gaslight Anthem. I enjoyed the first half more than the second. Needs plenty of more listens before i can tell if i like it or not.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 20, 2014, 08:10:08 AM
Pitchfork posts their 200 best songs of the decade so far (http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: FLYmeatwad on August 20, 2014, 09:04:28 AM
Top albums as well, and obviously the correct album won.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on October 16, 2014, 05:22:30 PM
These are the best things imaginable. The Track Listing to a happy Decemberists album (http://the-toast.net/2014/10/16/track-listing-happy-decemberists-album/).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on October 19, 2014, 04:25:06 PM
These are the best things imaginable. The Track Listing to a happy Decemberists album (http://the-toast.net/2014/10/16/track-listing-happy-decemberists-album/).

I love that list.  I read it out to my daughters and they just looked at me as if I were an alien.  My parental job is done.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on October 19, 2014, 04:42:01 PM
I was cracking up at work with it. “You Can Keep Your Heart Inside Your Own Body” is a song that I hope they actually write. The official Facebook page shared it, so I'm pretty sure they're aware of it.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: sdb_1970 on October 19, 2014, 05:18:19 PM
Pitchfork posts their 200 best songs of the decade so far (http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9466-the-top-200-tracks-of-2010-2014/).

Was really getting into this, but then I thought Pitchfork was done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcSXbvzW91U
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: The Deer Hunter on December 22, 2014, 03:15:03 PM
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/7670577b480f09c91148fd9fc71f3c4f/tumblr_ngzophjrja1qdd55xo1_500.jpg)

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: colonel_mexico on December 22, 2014, 04:31:25 PM
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/7670577b480f09c91148fd9fc71f3c4f/tumblr_ngzophjrja1qdd55xo1_500.jpg)

 :D :D :D

Ah yeah!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on January 26, 2015, 12:45:10 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/sam-smith-pay-tom-petty-royalties-basically-writin-214328 (http://www.avclub.com/article/sam-smith-pay-tom-petty-royalties-basically-writin-214328)

Apparently it has been legally agreed that Sam Smith borrowed from Tom Petty's "Won't Back Down" for his song "Stay With Me" and credit/royalties will be given. Thing is, other than one small syncopated beat, I hear zero similarities, and that could easily be incidental. I'm not sure if Smith actually was influenced or if this is just a move to avoid unwanted legal action (that they would probably win but maybe at greater expense including potential bad PR). Still, this is another example of why intellectual property law drives me crazy.

Based on the mashup here (http://www.vanyaland.com/2015/01/26/money-mashup-listen-overlay-tom-pettys-wont-back-sam-smiths-stay/), it seems that the primary contention is that the song is also in 4/4 with bass drum on the down beat and hi-hat/tambourine on the up beat. It is just absurd (especially since they speed up Stay With me to make it fit).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on January 26, 2015, 01:57:27 PM
Now I know where I'd heard that tune before. It's music. Do what you want with it. Who owns notes? But yeah chuck an old dinosaur a few squid whilst you improve his tune.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on January 26, 2015, 02:22:56 PM
http://www.avclub.com/article/sam-smith-pay-tom-petty-royalties-basically-writin-214328 (http://www.avclub.com/article/sam-smith-pay-tom-petty-royalties-basically-writin-214328)

Apparently it has been legally agreed that Sam Smith borrowed from Tom Petty's "Won't Back Down" for his song "Stay With Me" and credit/royalties will be given. Thing is, other than one small syncopated beat, I hear zero similarities, and that could easily be incidental. I'm not sure if Smith actually was influenced or if this is just a move to avoid unwanted legal action (that they would probably win but maybe at greater expense including potential bad PR). Still, this is another example of why intellectual property law drives me crazy.

Based on the mashup here (http://www.vanyaland.com/2015/01/26/money-mashup-listen-overlay-tom-pettys-wont-back-sam-smiths-stay/), it seems that the primary contention is that the song is also in 4/4 with bass drum on the down beat and hi-hat/tambourine on the up beat. It is just absurd (especially since they speed up Stay With me to make it fit).

There's also the little thing about the vocal melody on the chorus being 100% exactly the same.  Do you really not hear that??
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on January 26, 2015, 06:14:29 PM
Yeah, I hear it.  Probably coincidence.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: heisenbergman on January 26, 2015, 06:54:17 PM
Sure parts of them (not the whole songs) sound exactly the same but... idk. There are only so many notes and so much music so things are bound to sound the same in varying degrees. So it's difficult to conclude that the sounding the same was intentional...
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on January 26, 2015, 08:30:44 PM
Oh I don't think it was intentional, but it sure is a lot more than just a bass drum and high-hat.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on January 26, 2015, 08:53:04 PM
That Sam Smith song totally reminded me of something, but I could never place it.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: heisenbergman on January 26, 2015, 09:54:57 PM
It's scary from a songwriter's point-of-view that you can't write a song without that fear at the back of your mind that you might be sued for unintentionally copying someone else's work...

...considering it sounds like a relatively simple melody, the lawsuit from Petty's camp leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on January 26, 2015, 11:37:20 PM
There's also the little thing about the vocal melody on the chorus being 100% exactly the same.  Do you really not hear that??

I assume the chorus thing you are talking about is the "Stay with me, cause you're all I need" matching "Stand my ground and I won't back down?" The syncopation is similar (but different tempos) and the actual notes are at best a 50% match. I feel like you could find that level of match with any song to at least one other song. Unless you can prove intention, I just don't think you should be able to make an IP claim. But this is how corporate thugs win, even if they know they don't have the law on their side, they know they can win a financial war of attrition. It just really gets my goat.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on January 27, 2015, 07:41:21 AM
I don't really have a position on the legal issue either way, but the songs are undoubtedly similar.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on January 27, 2015, 12:34:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkcZV97O3pw#t=106

Another mash-up that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that if you heavily manipulate both songs, they sound sort of similar. Though I think putting the vocals on top of each other like this shows just how not similar they are in structure.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Antares on January 30, 2015, 10:14:47 PM
Great documentary

http://youtu.be/Sx9W8loshIs (http://youtu.be/Sx9W8loshIs)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: heisenbergman on February 09, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
omg Stereolab is blowing my mind. Anyone here a fan?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on February 09, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
omg Stereolab is blowing my mind. Anyone here a fan?

Yep, I've got their entire catalog, I think.  Dots and Loops is my favorite.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 09, 2015, 09:06:55 PM
New Kendrick. Video has a possibly NSFW image so just search YouTube for "The Blacker The Berry."

Those last two lines. Damn.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: heisenbergman on February 09, 2015, 09:22:49 PM
omg Stereolab is blowing my mind. Anyone here a fan?

Yep, I've got their entire catalog, I think.  Dots and Loops is my favorite.

Awesome. Funny thing... I tried out Emperor Tomato Ketchup some years back and was very "meh" about it.

Then just this month some music-releated discussion opened the door for me to revisit Stereolab again... and holy shit :o

This kind of a blah-to-wow turn for me has only happened once before (with Arcade Fire's Funeral), so this is a big thing for me.

I love their sound, though I feel like they sound very samey across their albums that I've heard (Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements, Mars Audiac Quintet, Emperor Tomato Ketchup, Dots and Loops) - almost always that indiepop-meets-krautrock sort of sound.

I think I still need some help distinguishing what makes their individual albums sound distinct and successful in their own right. Care to share what you think makes Stereolab's releases - the 90's albums at least - distinct from each other (well, if you feel that I'm wrong about them sounding same, that is)?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 10, 2015, 09:38:43 PM
New Kendrick is better than "i" but not by much. Watching these two tracks crumble under expectations (of an album that was good but come on, not that great) has been fun so far.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on March 20, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
This may be of interest to no one except me (and maybe oldkid), but Mark Kozelek puts out way too many live albums.  Right now in my iTunes I've got:

Find Me, Ruben Olivares
Little Drummer Boy
Live at Biko
Live at Lincoln Hall
Live at Mao Livehouse Shanghai & Beijing
Live at Palladium Malmö
Live at Phoenix Public House Melbourne
Live at Union Chapel & Sodra Teatern
Live at Victoria Teatern And Stenhammarsalen
Live in Copenhagen
Lost Verses Live
Nights LP (about 1/3 live)
White Christmas Live
7 Songs Belfast


I mean, I like his live stuff and there are differences from the studio versions, but at this point they're all blurring together.  I can't see myself ever choosing to listen to one of these, because I'd have to listen to each one a dozen times to remember which is which (gee, which of the five live versions of "Mistress" is my favorite?).  And yet, I can't bear to just delete them either.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on March 20, 2015, 07:53:26 PM
So is there one or two live albums that you would recommend above others?  I'd like to explore that, but you are right, that is simply too many.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on March 20, 2015, 09:42:09 PM
White Christmas Live stands out, maybe because it was the first.  Also it's got "Wop-a-Din-Din" which is my favorite Kozelek song.  The others are a blur to me.  They're all of good sound quality, so I would pick the ones that have the most appealing setlists to you.

I really need to put the Kozelek solo albums and the SKM albums on heavy rotation so I can get better acquainted with them.  I know "You Missed My Heart" is standing out as a really great song.  And I'm pretty familiar with "Richard Ramirez Died Today of Natural Causes" now.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on March 31, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
Don't think Tidal applies to me?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on March 31, 2015, 07:15:38 PM
Don't think Tidal applies to me?

Tidal Streaming?  Why not, it is a step in the right direction. 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: shuabert on April 03, 2015, 11:39:54 AM
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/7670577b480f09c91148fd9fc71f3c4f/tumblr_ngzophjrja1qdd55xo1_500.jpg)

 :D :D :D

Ah yeah!

Always good to come across fellow Thrice fans. I'm going to see Dustin with Andy Hull later this month.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on April 03, 2015, 12:07:39 PM
After going to see Walk the Moon last night, I set out to map my concert history this morning. This is what I can remember. Not sure whether I am forgetting anyone...

4/2/2015       Walk the Moon   
4/2/2015       Griswolds, The   
3/7/2015       Lone Bellow, The   
3/7/2015       Odessa                
12/9/2014     Lone Bellow, The   
12/9/2014     Robert Ellis
11/19/2014   Fitz & the Tantrums   
11/19/2014   Big Data   
10/21/2014   Public   
10/21/2014   Walk the Moon
7/8/2014         Todd Wolfe Band   
7/8/2014         Gary Clark Jr.   
6/30/2014     Nightmare & the Cat
6/30/2014     Smallpools   
6/30/2014     Neon Trees   
11/7/2013     Lone Bellow, The   
11/7/2013     Greg Holden   
8/30/2013     Walk the Moon   
8/30/2013     Magic Man   
7/25/2013     Wet Darlings, The   
7/25/2013     Nick Tolford & Company   
7/24/2013     Black Crowes, The   
7/24/2013     Tedeschi Trucks Band   
2/7/2013         Walk the Moon   
2/7/2013         Pacific Air
9/22/2012     Glen Hansard   
8/11/2012     Atlas Genius   
8/11/2012     Ben Kweller   
8/11/2012     Civil Twilight   
8/11/2012     Forest & the Evergreens   
8/11/2012     Lumineers, The
8/11/2012     Maps and Atlases   
8/11/2012     Metric   
8/11/2012     Tanlines   
5/24/2012     Michael McDonald   
4/26/2012     Tedeschi Trucks Band   
4/7/2012         Features, The   
4/7/2012         Naked and Famous, The   
4/7/2012         Reptar   
4/7/2012         Walk the Moon   
3/29/2012     Tedeschi Trucks Band   
3/29/2012     Scrapomatic   
8/21/2011     Gary Clark Jr.   
1/23/2011     Two Door Cinema Club   
1/23/2011     Someone Still Loves You Boris Yeltsin   
1/23/2011     Tokyo Police Club   
6/23/2010     Jeff Beck
6/23/2010     Alana Grace   
6/28/2009     Robert Randolph & the Family Band   
6/28/2009     Dr. John   
2/12/2009     Derek Trucks Band, The   
7/17/2008     John Mayer   
7/17/2008     Colbie Caillat   
7/17/2008     Brett Dennen
7/8/2008         Tom Petty   
7/8/2008         Steve Winwood
3/21/2008     Old School Freight Train   
3/21/2008     Los Lobos   
12/27/2007   Trans-Siberian Orchestra   
12/3/2007     Australian Pink Floyd
8/4/2007         Moody Blues, The
8/3/2007         B.B. King
7/7/2007         Robert Cray   
5/8/2007         Black Sabbath with Ronnie James Dio   
5/8/2007         Machine Head   
5/8/2007         Megadeath   
4/6/2007         Robert Cray   
4/6/2007         Eric Clatpton   
12/11/2006   Who, The   
12/11/2006   Pretenders, The   
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Knocked Out Loaded on April 03, 2015, 02:03:41 PM
You can plug a hole in your CV by go and see Bob Dylan at the Ohio Theatre on May 16, Corndog!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on April 03, 2015, 02:24:12 PM
Dylan doesn't interest me at this point in his career.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on April 03, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
7/8/2008         Steve Winwood
12/11/2006   Pretenders, The

My 2nd concert was Steve Winwood.  My third was The Pretenders.


7/7/2007         Robert Cray   
4/6/2007         Robert Cray

Saw him way back in the day too, though it was just as part of a free show downtown (Chicagofest? Taste of Chicago? don't remember).  IIRC the mixing was really crappy or something and it gave me a headache.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Knocked Out Loaded on April 03, 2015, 03:50:49 PM
Dylan doesn't interest me at this point in his career.

I took a chance as you have a couple of similar acts on your list, but to each his own I suppose.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: The Deer Hunter on April 03, 2015, 08:52:38 PM
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/7670577b480f09c91148fd9fc71f3c4f/tumblr_ngzophjrja1qdd55xo1_500.jpg)

 :D :D :D

Ah yeah!

Always good to come across fellow Thrice fans. I'm going to see Dustin with Andy Hull later this month.

I'm so jealous!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on April 17, 2015, 04:56:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Onh1qiM.jpg)

 ???
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on April 18, 2015, 12:58:31 AM
I usually leave my computer on to play music for my dog when I go to work.  There are a few local, small artists that have their music on Spotify.  I just let it play all day on repeat mode on the thought it might help.. but I would guess very little and maybe they don't credit something just playing on repeat over and over
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on June 18, 2015, 07:53:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/qFYSaTF.jpg) (https://insideabbeyroad.withgoogle.com/en/welcome)

 :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on June 18, 2015, 12:45:24 PM
I asked Bennett to try the sound mixing and he did pretty great! He laughed and said, "Only four channels?" and "The drums are too loud in their mix." :)

(http://i.imgur.com/RhBaRfwl.jpg)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on June 18, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
Some amazing tracks in there.  This is a discovery for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=343&v=ELKbtFljucQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=343&v=ELKbtFljucQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=92&v=gzRBoZb3GKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=92&v=gzRBoZb3GKw)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: The Deer Hunter on July 05, 2015, 05:55:49 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11700805_10155731729210545_2652508779560910735_n.jpg?oh=2cdf2e759092cb74cfaee806eed2dc8b&oe=561E9C2F&__gda__=1443856492_390906bfb42f11ee45dd1539a7211cee)

Dave is just on another level. How can you not love him?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on July 05, 2015, 02:04:47 PM
They made that contraption for his concerts?!  It's Game of Thrones meets Ellipsoidal Truss!

Yeah, I love him. :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Beavermoose on August 09, 2015, 09:25:52 AM
This website is super cool been listening to different genres for the last hour.
http://everynoise.com/
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on August 17, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJnHzS9P_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJnHzS9P_w)

"How do you turn it off!"  ;D
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on August 30, 2015, 06:11:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hexMs1VuwMY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hexMs1VuwMY)

I love Bernard Butler. I really like how he says how he would play Animal Nitrate acoustically and it sounds like Neil Young.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 14, 2016, 10:44:58 PM
Is The Life Of Pablo actually the greatest album ever constructed?

Yes.

Well, not really, maybe not even Kanye's best, or maybe it actually is his best, I still don't know yet.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 15, 2016, 11:50:06 AM
I'm still waiting for it to be on something not called Tidal.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on February 15, 2016, 05:28:02 PM
In which track does he mount his Cosby defence?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on February 24, 2016, 04:51:55 PM
I am obsessed with the score from Showtime's Penny Dreadful by Abel Korzeniowski.
Victorian gothic goodness...
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: The Deer Hunter on March 02, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
https://youtu.be/RgKAFK5djSk

Was there a reason this wasn't nominated for the oscar? It's so much better than the Spectre song.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on March 02, 2016, 03:39:54 PM
That's a good question. I feel like the Original Song category is the strangest one of the bunch. Wasn't it a few years ago that some random song got nominated and it came out later there was some serious wrong doing in terms of bribes and stuff?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on March 19, 2016, 07:02:16 PM
In the past few days or so photos have been released of the gun that Kurt Cobain shot and killed himself with. I've seen a few of these photos and my initial thought was "That's a big CINECASTING gun, how the hell do you manage to shoot yourself with that gun? after you've took some heroin"

(http://i.imgur.com/9lELl3Z.jpg)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on March 19, 2016, 09:27:21 PM
Two different handwritings on the note!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Verite on March 23, 2016, 11:39:24 PM
"I never let a statue tell me how nice I am" -Phife

RIP   :(
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: 1SO on May 15, 2016, 03:58:06 PM
Is "Closer" by Nine Inch Nails still regarded as a relevant classic song, or is it a classic of its time? Does a modern generation appreciate it?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 16, 2016, 02:52:05 AM
I know the group, but I'm a nerd. And I cannot remember the song itself.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on May 16, 2016, 03:25:12 AM
Is "Closer" by Nine Inch Nails still regarded as a relevant classic song, or is it a classic of its time? Does a modern generation appreciate it?

Do we need to rely a modern generation to be able to classify something as a classic?  Or should we do it by the generation of when they were big and if people still want to listen to them? 

In general, it seems newer music won't have the lasting power and a song seems to be considered old much quicker.  So I am guessing there will be fewer and fewer songs that get labeled as a classic over time.  But then, I am also getting older so probably understand modern music less and less.

I think I would consider it classic though

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on May 16, 2016, 07:34:23 AM
It's a classic when Father John Misty covers it  ;D  'f-bomb' alert, for those who don't know the song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEFrDWSuP1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEFrDWSuP1w)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: colonel_mexico on May 16, 2016, 08:52:43 AM
Now that most things 90s are turning 20 I could say they have reached classic status for an aging guy like me who does miss the tunes of his youth.  Certainly NIN's Closer is a classic and I think it has staying power of a great, classic song.  I mean people are still covering it, I'm not sure when Father John Misty put his out, but I know in the past few years In This Moment did a rendition (not one I was particularly fond of, Father John up there is pretty good and Closer to the original).  As for the modern generation part of the question, I'd have to defer to someone younger. 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on May 16, 2016, 12:58:54 PM
Oh my! :o

I've never heard that song before. And you guys call it a classic, haha! I don't know whether to be terrified by it or turned on. :))
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: colonel_mexico on May 16, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
Haha Sandy you are so cool, I believe it's both so you had the right impression lol!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on May 16, 2016, 02:14:54 PM
 :))

Not just me then! That's a relief.

It's a devil/angel, heaven/hell song.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 02, 2016, 09:24:16 PM
So I am interested in Frank Zappa. Any suggestions on where to start?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on August 02, 2016, 11:10:00 PM
Joe's Garage
Roxy and Elsewhere
Apostrophe/Overnite Sensation
One Size Fits All
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 02, 2016, 11:41:21 PM
Joe's Garage
Roxy and Elsewhere
Apostrophe/Overnite Sensation
One Size Fits All


You tha man!
Thanks for the suggestions - from Zappa to old school house. I love your range and diversity.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on August 04, 2016, 06:57:49 AM
2016 Mercury Prize nominees;


Anohni - Hopelessness
Bat For Lashes - The Bride
David Bowie - Blackstar
Jamie Woon - Making Time
Kano - Made in the Manor
Laura Mvula - The Dreaming Room
Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate
Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
Savages - Adore Life
Skepta - Konnichiwa
The 1975 - I like it when you sleep, for you are so beautiful yet so unaware of it
The Comet Is Coming - Channel the Spirits

You could actually make a very strong alternative list of albums from former Mercury darlings who didn’t make the cut: PJ Harvey, James Blake, Wild Beasts, Corinne Bailey Rae, Underworld, The Last Shadow Puppets, Mystery Jets, Primal Scream, New Order, Suede, Metronomy, Guy Garvey. Not to mention Adele and Coldplay.

The previous winners?

:: 1992 Primal Scream, Screamadelica
:: 1993 Suede, Suede
:: 1994 M People, Elegant Slumming
:: 1996 Pulp, Different Class
:: 1997 Roni Size/Reprazent, New Forms
:: 1998 Gomez, Bring It On
:: 1999 Talvin Singh, Ok
:: 2000 Badly Drawn Boy, The Hour of Bewilderbeast
:: 2001 PJ Harvey, Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
:: 2002 Ms Dynamite, A Little Deeper
:: 2003 Dizzee Rascal, Boy In Da Corner
:: 2004 Franz Ferdinand, Franz Ferdinand
:: 2005 Anthony And The Johnsons, I Am A Bird Now
:: 2006 Arctic Monkeys, Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not
:: 2007 Klaxons, Myths Of The Near Future
:: 2008 Elbow, The Seldom Seen Kid
:: 2009 Speech Debelle – Speech Therapy
:: 2010 The xx - xx
:: 2011 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
:: 2012 Alt J - An Awesome Wave
:: 2013 James Blake - Overgrown
:: 2014 Young Fathers - Dead
:: 2015 Benjamin Clementine – At Least for Now
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 06, 2016, 06:11:07 PM
Hi,

Something happened during the night and the "Breathing Life into my iPod" thread disappeared. The Mods and Admin have been working on trying to find an answer today, but haven't been able to bring it back. There's a chance that the high number of videos may have had something to do with it and at over 98500 views (I don't know how many posts) my theory is that it spontaneously combusted! What a way to go. :) If it reappears some day, it will be just as mysterious as its disappearance.

After four and a half years of playing catch up, I was only three posts away from reaching my long term goal of listening and responding to all the wonderful music that was sent my way. At that point I was going to put the thread under construction to make the 3rd filmspotters' playlist. It had been three years since the last one and this one would have been a doozy!

I mourn the loss of those three years of songs (and the rest of the thread) and the playlist that would have been built from them, but I would like to at least reach my goal and reply very briefly to those last three posts.

Bob Dylan is a mystery, but undeniably worth trying to solve, even if only in small ways. I'll continue to do so.

Jimi Hendrix was a shooting star that shone too brightly and disappeared too soon.



Mostly I want to thank everyone for sharing their music with me. Not only did you breathe life into my iPod, you breathed life into my life. I'm most grateful. :)

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Corndog on August 06, 2016, 06:24:52 PM
Oh bummer! I loved that thread.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2016, 04:30:59 AM
Damn, I really like that thread. We could always start a new one :D But make it a yearly thing, to limit the number of posts.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Bondo on August 07, 2016, 08:45:49 AM
It died the way it lived...glutinously indulging in music videos.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Monty on August 07, 2016, 04:10:57 PM
It died the way it lived...glutinously indulging in music videos.

"Is it in fact better to burn out, than to fade away" - High Fidelity
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on August 07, 2016, 06:49:21 PM
I will often miss that thread.  I got a lot of new music from there, and I loved reading people's descriptions of music they loved.  Perhaps it's loss will inspire us to do more general music writing?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 08, 2016, 12:27:52 AM
Thanks for making me feel better about it, guys. :) I think for now I'll concentrate on the group listening booth and like oldkid says, enjoy hearing other's thoughts about the music they love. And even if I'm not commenting always, I'll still be listening to the songs shared on these threads. :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on August 08, 2016, 12:39:01 AM
Thanks for making me feel better about it, guys. :) I think for now I'll concentrate on the group listening booth and like oldkid says, enjoy hearing other's thoughts about the music they love. And even if I'm not commenting always, I'll still be listening to the songs shared on these threads. :)

It is you commenting that probably kept the Breathing Life into my iPod thread so alive, and maybe ironically, killing it.  So don't stop commenting or else the postings may slow down;) 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 08, 2016, 09:26:28 PM
It is you commenting that probably kept the Breathing Life into my iPod thread so alive, and maybe ironically, killing it.  So don't stop commenting or else the postings may slow down;)

:D

So you're telling me to be enthusiastic but not too enthusiastic!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: saltine on August 09, 2016, 05:40:22 AM
Also, Dave pointed this out to me:

People who posted in that thread of Sandy's which was deleted will have reduced post counts.  Sorry about that, but there is nothing Admin can do to restore the thread or your post counts.  :-\
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 09, 2016, 05:42:48 AM
I am several days late to the wake, but vale "Breathing Life into my iPod" thread. Often viewed, never forgotten, it was a joy to read/listen to over the years.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 09, 2016, 05:31:53 PM
 :)

The thread was a joy for me too.


With the post adjustment, I'll be a Godfather Redux!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 10, 2016, 02:57:32 AM
Godfather Part II
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 10, 2016, 12:33:40 PM
Godfather Part II

:)

 "In [four more years] years the Corleone family will be completely legitimate."
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 11, 2016, 05:41:03 AM
Based on reputation, lets hope there is not Godfather Part 3.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: saltine on August 11, 2016, 05:16:16 PM
Junior started a new thread and the videos are not posting.  With this in mind...


PLEASE STOP POSTING VIDEOS IN THE MUSIC BOARD UNTIL WE CAN SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.  IT WILL TAKE A DAY TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT.  THANKS!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on August 13, 2016, 11:26:36 AM
How to post a link to youtube without it trying to embed it? 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 13, 2016, 11:52:19 AM
Just put     #no      after the link.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on August 13, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
Thanks


Just watched a film called The World of Kanako and loved this version of House of the Rising Sun by Mai Yamane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGpZqQTN3Xw&list=RDhGpZqQTN3Xw#t=4#no

The video has scenes from the film which may not be safe for work but was pretty amazing itself
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Post by: oldkid on August 13, 2016, 01:14:05 PM
Very cool.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 15, 2016, 03:17:56 PM
Chance the Rapper on Good Morning America (http://www.vibe.com/2016/08/chance-the-rapper-good-morning-america/?utm_source=sc-tw&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign=chancetherapper)

"If you're not free to speak about God, you're not free."

Can't wait to see him in October.

Edit: Not sure if you're actively listening to music suggestions Sandy, but if you are, Chance is the one rapper I'd ask you to at least try to listen to. Luckily, a handful of his songs are clean.

Sunday Candy (https://youtu.be/i4ooH8frBWg#no)

Same Drugs (https://youtu.be/Cxc_egMgY80#no)

If you can handle a little profanity:
Angels (https://youtu.be/eedeXTWZUn8#no) (Nominated for a VMA!)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 15, 2016, 08:49:04 PM
I think it was Junior who posted "Sunday Candy" a while back and it has become a real favorite around here. I can't get enough of this song.  Never has church seemed so sweet. Love it.

In "Same Drugs" he's both respecting and reproving his past girlfriend. Not an easy task, but he pulls it off. My favorite lines are:

You were always perfect, and I was only practice

When did you start to forget how to fly?

In gently pointing that out, it makes me want to never forget! Grateful for a song that motivates me to not lose childlike wonder!

"Angels"   I <3 Chicago and also this song (and the things he's doing for his city). Oh, and I too "got angels all around me." :)

Thanks, Sam
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 15, 2016, 09:00:15 PM
Here's a fantastic reading (http://christandpopculture.com/neverland-hope-chance-rappers-drugs/) of Same Drugs as a take on Peter Pan.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on August 15, 2016, 10:24:57 PM
Here's a fantastic reading (http://christandpopculture.com/neverland-hope-chance-rappers-drugs/) of Same Drugs as a take on Peter Pan.

wow. I wasn't expecting that. In depth analysis and deep beliefs. Thanks, Sam.

"When did you start to forget to fly" chokes me up too.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on August 21, 2016, 04:24:31 AM
Apple Music's "Radiohead; The Deep Cuts" playlist. Nice

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Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 24, 2016, 04:48:59 PM
DJ Shadow/Run The Jewels - Nobody Speak (https://youtu.be/NUC2EQvdzmY#no)

Song of the year. Music video of the year. Event of the year.

Also got me to listen to DJ Shadow's new album. Fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on August 24, 2016, 05:06:44 PM
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on August 24, 2016, 06:02:03 PM
Love that video.  I don't know the artists but will check them out more this weekend
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 24, 2016, 06:06:40 PM
DJ Shadow DJed one of the best hip hop albums of all time: Endtroducing.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on August 24, 2016, 06:08:40 PM
thanks.. added to my Tidal queue
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 06, 2016, 12:06:26 PM
I'll pretend this is the "breathing life" thread........

Bullets Don't Have Eyes- Eddie & Ernie (https://youtu.be/HMXkBvSfIhQ#no)

Not as ominous as it sounds. Slice o' soul.

Come On And Love Me- Lucille Brown (https://youtu.be/54_pXTqw4VI#no)

Songs of the Summer;

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{Most played songs of the last 90 days....courtesy of Last.fm counting everything I play}

Timber- Coldcut + Hexstatic (https://youtu.be/5-wl7Xk5FoY#no)
Africa Talks To You- Sly & The Family Stone (https://youtu.be/5v-IkcwV_uI#no)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on September 06, 2016, 02:26:00 PM
I'm sitting here on the carpet, babysitting my nephew. He's enjoying your tunes very much and is especially taken with Sly. :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 06, 2016, 02:28:43 PM
The baby can do the wah wahs!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on September 06, 2016, 02:59:55 PM
Yeah, he can! :)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on September 13, 2016, 12:24:46 AM
I've been going through the Pitchfork top 200 songs of the 60s list (http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/6405-the-200-greatest-songs-of-the-1960s/) to get some songs I might have missed on my own. What a great list! I think I'm gonna do all the decades. The site can be hit and miss as far as current stuff goes, but at least in this 60s list they do a great job of hitting a lot of genres.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 13, 2016, 09:03:53 AM
Think I got about halfway through their 2010s list. It was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on September 13, 2016, 04:32:07 PM
Dang, just the top 20 introduced me to two songs I'd never heard before that are unabashedly great.   I'll go through the rest of it in anticipation.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on September 13, 2016, 06:45:16 PM
I've been going through the Pitchfork top 200 songs of the 60s list (http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/6405-the-200-greatest-songs-of-the-1960s/) to get some songs I might have missed on my own. What a great list! I think I'm gonna do all the decades. The site can be hit and miss as far as current stuff goes, but at least in this 60s list they do a great job of hitting a lot of genres.
What are your favourite discoveries from the list?
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 14, 2016, 12:29:04 AM
For discussions sake,  anyone think Gimme Shelter, Day in the Life or Can't Explain are the best songs of those three bands? I can only make an argument for one of them. "Gimme Shelter" seems to be the du jour answer for the Stones.

They started this list with Sunny Afternoon at 200. Then every other song got judged against that one.  :D
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on September 14, 2016, 12:48:49 AM
I've been going through the Pitchfork top 200 songs of the 60s list (http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/6405-the-200-greatest-songs-of-the-1960s/) to get some songs I might have missed on my own. What a great list! I think I'm gonna do all the decades. The site can be hit and miss as far as current stuff goes, but at least in this 60s list they do a great job of hitting a lot of genres.
What are your favourite discoveries from the list?

I've only made it through number 89 so far. These are the ones I've gotten into thanks to this list. Some of this will be embarrassing (like my near-complete lack of knowledge wrt Simon and Garfunkel).

007 (Shanty Town) - Desmond Dekker and the Aces
America - Simon and Garfunkel
Care of Cell 44 - The Zombies
The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel
Crimson and Clover - Tommy James and the Shondells
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down - The Band
This Will Be Our Year - The Zombies
These Days - Nico

I would say that Gimme Shelter is up there for the Stones, same for A Day in the Life. I change my answer for Dylan every day. Today I'm a Tangled Up In Blue guy.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on September 14, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
Gimme Shelter and A Day in the Life are certainly arguable.

I'm surprised that Can't Explain would make anyone's top ten of a list of Who songs.  It's a fine song, but it sounds like a warm-up for Substitute or The Seeker.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on September 14, 2016, 11:54:32 AM
Great discoveries, Junior!

Quote
For discussions sake,  anyone think Gimme Shelter, Day in the Life or Can't Explain are the best songs of those three bands?

I'm good with "Gimme Shelter," but would have been thrilled and super surprised to see "You Can't Always Get What You Want."

I can't argue with "A Day In The Life." There's too much serendipitous goodness that went into it, to do so. I equate it to the "planets aligning" of Casablanca, where all these disparate elements of creative forces conjoined together to create something wholly unique and perfect.

"I Can't Explain" doesn't do a lot for me. It's almost like saying "Love Me Do" is the Beatles greatest song. The Who's first single is much better than that, but it's still a precursor of things to come. I wish I could pick the 1973 song, "Love, Reign O'er Me," but since it's not an option, I'd be fine with "My Generation" for a "snapshot of the times" song.

edit: or what oldkid said!


But! I was so happy to see "God Only Knows" as the #1! There's really no argument about that one, is there? :)

Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: oldkid on September 14, 2016, 12:03:18 PM
No, can't argue with God Only Knows.  Sometimes I want to, (shouldn't the Beatles have the top slot? Really, give it to the Beach Boys?) but I simply can't.  Brian Wilson, especially in Pet Sounds, displayed his musical genius that everyone else was catching up to.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 14, 2016, 12:16:04 PM
I can argue with 3 Beach Boys song inside the top 20 when "Sitting on The Dock of the Bay", "Tracks of my Tears" and "Heard It Through The Grapevine" aren't. These things are there to argue with aren't they.

Scorcese ruined Gimme Shelter. :o
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: mañana on September 14, 2016, 06:51:55 PM
You guys are crazy. "I Can't Explain" is definitely top notch Who for me.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 15, 2016, 12:33:36 AM
That wasn't the question. Is it one of the 20 best songs of the decade, apart from being The Who's best song? From this early period; Substitute and My Generation are both more interesting, and iconic before you get to the more subjective question of whether it's a better song. This seems clear for Gimme Shelter as well. The only doubtful one is The Beatles one since the only other really strong song on Sgt Peppers is LSD.

The question what are the greatest debut singles of the 60s? Different answer.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Junior on September 15, 2016, 12:48:28 AM
I mean, your initial question was whether those three songs were the best from those three bands. Tomorrow Man is pretty clearly answering that.

But beyond all of this, there's never ever gonna be a list that satisfies everybody. The list doesn't become invalid because one disagrees with it. It just becomes a list you disagree with. I wanted a way of making sure that I heard most of the canonical songs of a decade alongside some of the more obscure things and it was good for that.

Despite the title given to things like this, I'm not sure anybody who actually makes a list like this thinks that they are definitive.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 15, 2016, 12:56:52 AM
The Mercury Prize is awarded tonight. Like the radio is saying this morning; it's difficult to look past the artistic statement of a man directly addressing his own demise and death. It's a strong lineup but Blackstsr is the clear favourite
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on September 16, 2016, 12:44:15 AM
Skepta wins the Mercury Prize.

Skepta? NSFW Shutdown (https://youtu.be/MQOG5BkY2Bc#no)

Michael C Hall performed Bowie's Lazarus (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/see-michael-c-halls-performance-of-david-bowies-lazarus-w440155).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 05, 2016, 01:01:24 PM
It's Shocktober so how about a ghoulish playlist. Stick your most devilish horror related songs here!

http://youtu.be/I_BixyTrY7o (http://youtu.be/I_BixyTrY7o#no)

[an excuse to get the amazing Wytches into people's ears but the video is very videodromish)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MartinTeller on October 05, 2016, 01:32:31 PM
Two from Barbara Manning come to mind. The first is "Burnsite" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW68RMkv-G8#no), from her early band 28th Day. What makes this extra chilling (besides the blood-curdling scream) is that, IIRC, it's based on a true story of Manning seeing a friend of hers jump into a fire.

The other is "Someone Wants You Dead" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSIg5zWl9Ds#no), which has a playful sense of the macabre that reminds me of Edward Gorey.

And since we lost Rod Temperton today, this seems like a good place to honor his most famous song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izS67QTVAjk#no).
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 05, 2016, 02:43:45 PM
She's got the right voice for the tone of the songs.

One more;

Dracula's Wedding - Outkast (https://youtu.be/JxY3BXLQFbw#no)

, which sent me on a long Outkast trip; whatta band!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: jdc on October 05, 2016, 07:38:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtM-hLgBudw
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 06, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
New Album of the Week; No.1

All Your Happy Life- The Wytches (release date: 30/09/16)
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A Halloween timed release? They are leaning on a ghoulish theatricality, appropriate to their name. They also use old school Radiohead like a crutch; tempos lapsing to a slow drawl and guitar squeals; equally as powerful; they aren't concerned with keeping a beat; tracking down a thought and dragging it into the bushes, for their pleasure; before its rotting corpse rises from the crypt transformed into a new song-beast. Thom Yorke is similarly unconcerned with centring his voice; letting it skew in the direction the music takes him. The guitars take a slow stroll down the foggy cobbled streets of Victoriana; swing-a-long-a-sixpence; before meeting a screaming, howling fiend in a feedback alleyway; delicious sharp switchblades. "Ghost House", "Bone Weary", "Crest of Death", "A Dead Night Again". Not quite a theme but a frame of mind, certainly.

Top tracks; C-Side/ Bone Weary (https://youtu.be/6mIX_M3NmyU#no)

{This being my attempt to get some new music in my life. One newly released album per week}
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 12, 2016, 12:43:52 PM
New Album of the Week; No.2

Toy- Yello (release date: September 30, 2016)
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I think, if you had never heard a Yello album before this would be a great place to start; even 30 years past their central work. Equally, if you know their big, beefy, bouncy work then this is a welcome, joyful revisiting; rather than a retread; because the Yello sound is so complexedly layered, by producer-first artists, that it is timelessly tuneful. A band from Zurich leaning on latin beats of salsa, combined with electronic trills in cascading layers; a sense of fun, never in love with their own sophistication; halfway between eurotrash leather bars and the casino on the shore, darling. Sense of fun, demonstrated thus;

Limbo (https://youtu.be/D_ksYVM2cWY#no)

, with the same deep nonsense of "Oh Yeah". I can say it's all so fresh, but I can't say it's innovative because, I already said, it hasn't moved a long way North from the 80's.

Yello are producers first, when they surgically scalpel out a guitar lick and splice it to another Frankenstein's monster of a track; when voices are transplanted in. Two of the best tracks are sung by Malia, a singer from Malawi, I haven't heard before; in the miasma of a Yello song, they can isolate a beautiful voice; an operating theatre sterility to the cleanliness of the production. Swiss clock. Yello can move to ballads or trancey soundtracks, which have gravitated towards an Aphex Twin ambivalent ambience.

A grown up sound from a couple of old geezers.

Top tracks; Cold Flame (https://open.spotify.com/track/5VIBONiBOcptQK3tB1ACFd) & Give You The World (https://open.spotify.com/track/5fZ1bBXmTMSjjf1S5Ojp6l)- both featuring Malia

 
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 13, 2016, 04:15:46 AM
6 music played a Bowie track; Its Gonna Be Me, from the Young Americans sessions which I think are to be released. The same Luther Vandross led choir fighting with his vocal lead.

The story is the collaboration of Bowie and Lennon led to Fame and Across the Universe pushing other tracks off the album., to Visconti displeasure. Also this track is over 6 min long which, on vinyl, will diminish the quality.. too many grooves on a 12" slab of plastic.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: pixote on October 13, 2016, 09:47:30 AM
Bob Dylan, Nobel Laureate.

God, that makes me happy. I wonder if even Haruki Murakami was like, yeah, better choice.

pixote
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: roujin on October 13, 2016, 09:52:38 AM
Guess Pynchon isn't getting one.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 14, 2016, 12:47:47 PM
Today was 1979 day on 6 Music to the extent they asked for letters, and their film review show talked about a movie that would come out next year; a sequel to Star Wars that wouldn't work because who makes sequels?

So in the couple of hours I listened they played;

Heart of Glass- Blondie
Highway to Hell- AC/DC
Don't Stop Till You Get Enough- MJ
I Wanna Be Your Lover- Prince
DJ- David Bowie
Guns of Brixton- The Clash
Good Times- Chic
Mind- Talking Heads (their album of the day was "Fear of Music")

I love modern music but jeez.....

Out of all of these, this is probably the future of music; Shadowplay - Joy Division (https://youtu.be/juD4ayBbHdY#no)...the next 20 years anyway.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 16, 2016, 02:46:55 AM
New Album of the Week; No. 3

Head Carrier- The Pixies (Release Date; 30th September 2016)
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"I can hear the buzzing modulations of the universe
But you're the first to make me feel it
I love all the universe, I love all the listeners
Watch it! Here's 50,000 watts of goodwill!"

- Bam Thwok (https://youtu.be/QDOOpNHXc6o#no), The Pixies

When The Pixies came back in 2004; it was a download only song written by Kim Deal. In the middle of a tidal wave song; it disintegrates and what replaces it is a fairground calliope; one of those steam driven wheezing burping contraptions that, itself, sounds like it is about to explode; like most of the machines at a fair are supposed to. The calliope steadies and the song bursts back in with the chorus; "I can hear the buzzing modulations of the universe". I really think Kim Deal could hear it. 50,000 watts of goodwill is the sound of the Deal bass guitar. The tension between Frank Black and Mrs Deal is in every song on four albums; before Black's black dog overwhelms "Trompe le monde". Even as late as "Bossanova", it is typical to hear Deal lead off a song, as in Is She Weird (https://youtu.be/GSKW2YoX7b4#no), where what Deal and Loveridge are doing is in balance with voice and guitar; creating a mini opera of ghoulishness. Tension creates space; Joey Santiago's guitar modulates in those spaces; the twenty other vibrations in one chord have room to find the walls and push them back; impossible epicity in every two and a half minutes.

Frank Black? Like Morrissey, I never cared for Frank; two of my favourite bands and I had it in for the lead singer? Listening to pop and rock songs and actually rooting for the guitarist to win? Adoring Johnny Marr's noodling and disdaining the foppish Wildean air? What I found myself exploring; listening to "Head Carrier" was..."Is this a Frank Black album or is it a Pixies recording". A couple of times it was a Pixies album. Why is the bass player in The Pixies a woman? What a sexist line!  ;D So lets talk sexual politics through the medium of the band formerly known as The Pixies. The tension between Deal and Black was entirely unsexual; but Deal's tutting presence in a Pixies song; her eyerolling reaction to the typical histrionics of male rock bands; Black's irritation; responding with lyrics about sexual diseases, boys own sci fi and horror movie fanboyishness; like a middle finger stage left; the sweetness of the "Gigantic" vocal, the gaspy lead out to "Tony's Theme". Replaced on "Head Carrier" by a girl who could be his daughter (!), who is singing in an imitation, not of Deal, but of Black! Ooh how confusing; but I would interpret  it as another move in the continuing war of the sexes between man-boy Black and life-loving mother figure Deal...."Oh boys" tut tut. This psychoanalysis is best left to the music. Tensions in a band aren't at all unique. Lock people in a room or a car or any small space( server based or otherwise) and no amount of "gee whiz youre great" will stop natural tensions; the attempt will turn that sweet smile to a rictus; lock yourself in your own head and go silently weird...hence the greatness of writing; express that tension in strange and beautiful ways that leave "you're ok I'm ok" like a blanket of ash on the ground. Whilst The Pixies were a volatile mix their art was transcendent; leaving the pettiness of real life "who didnt wash their dishes" behind far below.

Black's first solo albums were storming and then he lapsed towards aggressive acoustic guitar posturing ("I thought that if I had an acoustic guitar......"). The first Breeders album is another favourite. I think Black needed Deal more than vice versa. Deal's soul is retained on "Last Splash". Once Black had finally destroyed his toys his solo work suffered. Mummy wasn't there to tell him to put them away and come to dinner. So the sexual politics are as suitably weird as any of their songs.

I'm not asking for the clock to turn back 26 years. I'm asking for a (The) Pixies album not a Frank Black album with Santiago and Loveridge in the backing band. For reasons explained earlier, without Deal, Santiago's guitar has no space to play into. Dave's drumming isn't as crisp but he's a bit older now, and his drumming used to be akin to the tiniest cracks in time, letting anti-matter into our universe to explode later. A couple of tracks levitate (me) towards Pixies songs, but their albums weren't filler stuffed. The EP sets were much more aggressive, as a deliberate aim; The Pixies used to be openly confrontational without trying very hard...that tension allowed it. Where I started with this thought was that, if Frank Black continued as a solo artist, it would be natural; in the way Paul Weller or Morrissey (him again) have a solo entity, unrelated to their former bands. If The Jam or The Smiths reformed, it would beg similar questions and comparisons that are impossible to avoid. The solo artist may continue; possibly unheard, but there's a faultline in the concept of the reformed band; in it for the cash grab; on a nostalgia kick; "is it better to flame out or fade away?" I didn't have these thoughts with the last album maybe because Yello always seemed old to me. I can't escape it with The Pixies, but Deal is a massive component, to be bereft of; an engine with any spark plugs still works if its a diesel; chug chug um chagga lagga. A calliope crashed to the ground.

Bam Thwok was one of the tunes I turned to after "Head Carrier"; the others were No 13 Baby (https://youtu.be/hEA4iBvrLoA#no) and Blown Away (https://youtu.be/6vpYxw_oDPk#no). Of course, listening to a band's new record shouldn't set off a nostalgia fest; but this is more about going to specific tunes that explained why "Head Carrier" didn't work. The Pixies have probably made much more money in this latest form than they ever did back then; I don't begrudge them and I look forward to seeing them play again. I know I'll be watching Frank Black and Friends, not The Pixies. Nothing they do changes their greatness, established before the 90s began; somehwere in the crackling ether between Frank Black Francis and the divine Mrs Kim Deal.

Top Tracks; Oona (https://youtu.be/WOW3M7FHxVM#no); Might As Well Be Gone (https://youtu.be/sgxf0NlB_AM#no)

{this is working as well as the books marathon. Art begets writing and the desire to write encourages engagement with the art, a virtuous circle}
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 19, 2016, 10:47:04 AM
New Album of the Week: No. 4

Heads Up - Warpaint (Release date; 23rd September 2016)
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About The Band
A Los Angeles quartet dealing in sparse, atmospheric art rock, Warpaint originally consisted of sisters Jenny Lee Lindberg and Shannyn Sossamon (on bass and drums, respectively), as well as Emily Kokal and Theresa Wayman on vocal and guitar. Sossaman left due to conflicts with her acting schedule and was replaced by Stella Mozgawa. With a dedicated lineup, the band began to experiment with murky spaciousness and stripped down arrangements, and gained the attention of former Red Hot Chilli Peppers guitarist John Frusciante. In 2009, they self-released their debut EP, Exquisite Corpse. After a successful show at CMJ, the signed with Rough Trade and set to work recording their full-length debut for the label. The Fool arrived in October 2010, featuring more fleshed-out songcraft and stronger performances. After taking a few years to follow up their debut and citing their desire to experiment more with sounds and really connect as a group, the band released the lead single "Love Is To Die", which was featured in a Calvin Klein advert in September 2013. The eponymous sophomore album, which was produced by Flood and mixed by him and Nigel Goodrich, was released in early 2014. Following the album's release, Warpaint spent almost a year and a half on the road. After the tour finished, the women of Warpaint pursued different projects: Jenny Lee Lindberg issued her solo debut Right On!; Theresa Wayman founded BOSS with Hot Chip's Sarah Jones and All We Are's Guro Gikling; Stella Mogzawa played with Kurt Vile on tour and in the studio, and Emily Kokal collaborated with Paul Bergmann. The band reunited in January 2016 and recorded their third album in a matter of months. Released that September, Heads Up brought a newfound urgency- as well as inspirations such as Kendrick Lamar, Janet Jackson, Björk and Outkast - to Warpaint's Music ~ Gregory Heaney, Apple Music



Another disco in a different kitchen. You hear the high hat being rapidly carressed on Arcade Fire's "Reflektor"; gradually changing a rock song into a disco song; a piano makes it house music. Warpaint aren't old disco and they ain't a rock band; so I think this is actually a newer form; all the influences are established and old ten years before they were born; it infected their DNA through the lining of the womb for 9 months. They, obviously, aren't alone in that as individuals, but, to capture and communicate the feeling I got from what I heard, I need to state that piece of plain as the nose on my facedness. This ain't disco but the high hat is; it ain't rock until it needs to be. It may be pop and it sounds certainly more commercial than previous songs, but that may be because the refined sound; particularly in the voices; a maturity; sounds pure pop unintentionally. Sometimes, they sound like a gang of schoolgirls about to rob a businessman of his briefcase on a tube train (I thought I was next!) just because they can. The voices now sound like a beautiful girl with no makeup; the last band not to use voice correction left in the world? Purer than anything else I've heard in a while; but this isn't a girl band. The high hat hit that way pulls it towards disco.

It can't be pop because it took a few listens for it to surface; or to find the entrance to the rabbit hole. It was subtle; it initially felt insubstantial but the laziness turned to creaminess and then like a whole; with the mood struck. Lots of modern things taken a step cooler; with a "who me?" innocence of a thief with a gorgeous face. California girls with the world's pulse under their finger. 

Ok call it pop and be done with it.

Top tracks; Whiteout (https://youtu.be/K1BqwONm4TE#no); New Song (http://youtu.be/oOfah_QyUkI#no)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sandy on October 19, 2016, 01:45:43 PM
I like! (and I'm keeping it)

I also like you taking the time to write about music, because you are perfectly suited for this. Any music magazine would be fortunate to have such skilled and artistic commentary. 
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Post by: verbALs on October 19, 2016, 02:14:56 PM
Ta
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Post by: verbALs on October 27, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
New Album of the Week: No. 5

The Way - The Buzzcocks (Release date; 1st May 2014)
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....


Again, like The Pixies, one of my favourite bands; releasing new material. It's a couple of years old, but I brought myself up to date, because we are going to see them on their 40th Anniversary tour tomorrow night; which suggests a golden oldies night, maybe sprinkled with new songs. Unlike The Pixies there's a superior musicality that shows its head on this record. Punks of the 77 vintage? Musicality? That's what shines through on this record. Not The Pixies? One of the greatest bands, but that doesn't assume musicality. I'm setting a challenge with this statement. Even the loudest Buzzcocks songs have lyrical content, a pure beat, an almost lackadaisical high tone to the vocals, and finger-pickery complexity to the guitar playing. A prog rock song expands the same riff for 20 minutes; The Buzzcocks pack 6 guitar riffs into one break after the second chorus. This is apparent on the newest album; the guitars aren't getting older even if the fingers on the fret board are.

Pete Shelley's naif vocals now take on a reedy, breaking quality. If he's getting tired quickly, then he shares the vocals. A Buzzcocks song is a Shelley vocal however. Shelley's voice has the off tone when its good, then the guitar starts to find a counterpoint to wherever Shelley has wandered. It's tiring obviously. An older man might be able to exert himself physically; but he's done it a thousand times, so why go there? Similarly, Shelley only really puts himself out there on "The Way" which makes it the outstanding track, and a proper throwback to the oh-so-good old days. The guitar hints at those times, strangling off one of those multi-wave riffs. As if to say; "we could, but we aren't going to..." Fair enough chaps. The fortress of your greatness is unassailable. I'll take the hits tomorrow night. You deserve my money, cos when I was 12 my mum wouldn't have given me the money to go to your gigs, so I'm paying for all those great songs now.

Top tracks; The Way (https://youtu.be/OciBoTco3_E#no)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on October 29, 2016, 02:24:52 AM
Re: above- Yesterday was the Buzzcocks anniversary tour gig; as my daughter said afterwards, I wouldn't have wanted to miss that. Weird atmosphere; perhaps the outside impression of a British rock gig is of aggression and tension but I always found them to be a love-in between band and crowd. Last night, despite a lot of people being older than me, there was an angry side to it; been a while since anyone pushed past me at a bar; some guy nearly 60 with a Mohawk! My retaliation was to politely point out the guy who was there before me at the bar; rising above, ever upwards; I can't take back all the aggressive London impatience of the past but I show I'm not stuck in the past. My daughter found it funny anyway; "I'm not letting that dickhead drag me down" in a loud voice so he could hear.  ;D

Starting with Boredom and Fast Cars finishing with Ever Fallen In Love and Orgasm Addict with a few new songs not spoiling the flow. Damn loud; Promises and Moving Away From The Pulsebeat were favourites, I even let the change in drum pattern go unbothered. Singing along to cultural touchstone songs with the Pete Shelley really was special. Sore throats all round. My daughter bought me a Harmony in my Head tshirt. Merch is a big thing in a Spotify kind of world.
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Post by: Sandy on October 30, 2016, 12:31:17 AM
 :) I can't think of anyone who needed to be at that concert more than you. So happy you got to share the music with your daughter.
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Post by: verbALs on November 03, 2016, 02:49:08 PM
New Album of the Week; No.6

Clear Shot- Toy (release date: October 28, 2016)
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I'm pleased to say listening to the album hasn't given up all its charms already, and I can keep on digging. This isn't a record where hearing the first few tracks tells you all you need to know and it even presumes to end on an unreserved magnum opus called "Cinema (https://youtu.be/ZdlBH4EAiMk#no)"; a song that reminded me of a time before double glazing and plastic frames, when a loud enough set of speakers could set the wood, the glass and the putty resonating in sympathy; a movie set in black and white Berlin. I'm not versed in My Bloody Valentine, but this form of jangly guitar music bolted to the side of a goth castle, comes from a time after The Smiths. This is a set of ten very particular moments of pop and rock. I'd call the vocals "matter of fact"; sung from an old worn armchair; he puts down a mug of tea or a bottle of whisky on the chair's arm to insert his lyrics under the folds of a small moon of sound. Bands like Ride used to do this synthesis very well; lesser known ones like The Pastels as well. I'm not too sure if they are looking at the charts, but their proficiency means they can knock out a skew-wiffy pop song like "I'm Still Believing" for the kids; if the kids still exist. Or they can exercise the sort of tension that gets a crowd bouncing at the exact tempo of the universe.

I may like this band more than I like this album. I'm happy it'll take another week of immersion to find out.

Top tracks; Fast Silver (https://youtu.be/iQcCDVRehdo#no)/ I'm Still Believing (https://youtu.be/RS4vsK0S1cI#no)

{This is a different sort of writing- full of vacuous imagery and sentences that could easily end in "MANNNNNNNN!!". Books from the head, movies from the heart and songs from the gut...if one can type with one's gut that is}
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Post by: oldkid on November 03, 2016, 03:22:43 PM
Love your comment on the writing at the end.
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Post by: mañana on November 07, 2016, 01:31:00 PM
Got my Brian Wilson ticket today!
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Post by: pixote on November 07, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
Got my Brian Wilson ticket today!

I was lying in bed today, which is close to the same thing.

pixote
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Post by: verbALs on November 09, 2016, 12:10:45 PM
New Album of the Week; No.7

Let Them Eat Chaos- Kate Tempest (release date: October 7, 2016)
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Europe is lost, America lost, London lost
Still we are clamouring victory
All that is meaningless rules
We have learned nothing from history
The people are dead in their lifetimes
Dazed in the shine of the streets
But look how the traffic's still moving
System’s too slick to stop working
Business is good, and there’s bands every night in the pubs
And there’s two for one drinks in the clubs
And we scrubbed up well
Washed off the work and the stress
And now all we want’s some excess
Better yet; a night to remember that we’ll soon forget
All of the blood that was bled for these cities to grow
All of the bodies that fell
The roots that were dug from the earth
So these games could be played
I see it tonight in the stains on my hands
The buildings are screaming
I can't ask for help though, nobody knows me
Hostile, worried, lonely
We move in our packs and these are the rights we were born to
Working and working so we can be all that we want
Then dancing the drudgery off
But even the drugs have got boring
Well, sex is still good when you get it

To sleep, to dream, to keep the dream in reach
To each a dream, don’t weep, don’t scream
Just keep it in, keep sleeping in
What am I gonna do to wake up?


-Europe Is Lost

Seven people all awake at 4:18 in the morning with a storm coming in; a lady back from a double shift of social care, a young professional earning loads but not sure why he isn't happy. As a concept, it suits Kate Tempest to don a different character for each song before she brings them all together. Tempest the poet, Tempest the rapper, Tempest the narrator; so she can move between each form; like Mike Skinner's "A Grand Don't Come For Free" the story form fits the song construction. The words can read as poetry and stand alone, but like old French poetry it is supposed to be accompanied by music. In this case, a relaxed tripping set of beats and bass, to suit a cold early morning setting; the sort of moment in time when you worry about the world.

Poetry and rapping never seem to be confused; Skinner and the Rasta poet of my youth Linton Kwesi Johnson could flip between whichever seemed most appropriate; including breaking into song for a line. Tempest speaks a lingo that is slightly different from the one I grew up with because patois has become such an integral part of the London accent; so racial integration, which started in my generation has properly turned the city the colour of latte 40 years later. Skinner slightly adopted the London vibe from outside but this sounds 100% the real deal. There's a genuine lack of compromise and a tension; she talks about wondering what happen to streets that are meant to make her shudder; an unattractive threat? The energy of mean streets can be used or run away from; but it's unfakeable. Kate ain't fake.

Top tracks; Europe is Lost (https://youtu.be/TOXXdYtZSbQ#no)/ Don't Fall In (https://youtu.be/-aRxIWgFLpA#no)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: MattDrufke on November 13, 2016, 02:37:03 PM
Went back and re-listened to this year's Frightened Rabbit, because it had been out for a while and I've kind of gotten away from it.

So good. So full of heart and sorrow and sad guitars.
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Post by: Junior on November 13, 2016, 02:48:32 PM
Yup, I liked that one a lot.
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Post by: MattDrufke on November 14, 2016, 07:30:40 AM
Also, really loving the new Conor Oberst album, which is just him and a guitar or piano and harmonica. Really sweet stuff.
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Post by: St. Martin the Bald on November 14, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
New A Tribe Called Quest.
So far 4 tracks in/ solid flow, great beats and samples.
Fife lives on!
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 14, 2016, 05:16:50 PM
Yea, it's great. They have so many fantastic collaborations on this album.
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Post by: verbALs on November 16, 2016, 02:00:49 PM
New Album of the Week; No.8

Babes Never Die- Honeyblood (release date: November 4, 2016)
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I don't know what the guy from iTunes was listening to. This is all very sweet, it must the song titles; "Love Is A Disease", "Sister Wolf" and a bit of fuzz on the guitars that get him feeling fired up. This band have a vampiric quality to me that comes from an old song called "Choker"; but this is more "Twilight" than "Let The Right One In". A real teen dream, if you know what I mean.

They have a serious problem starting a song; such a state of affairs that had me pondering what makes a song truly generic. Generic actually meaning something overplayed, unoriginal to me, when it means 'look beneath the ostensible surface, aesthetes!!' when it comes to movies. They lay down a fairly mundane guitar and drum track, sprinkled with iron filings, like I said. On some songs it goes that way till the end; but they have a way of hooking into repeated lyrical cycles, not just in the choruses, that spirals upwards. Going from something akin to Shania Twain twee-rock and ending up in a hypnotic daze is quite a weird concoction. I don't mind if you don't know what I mean, I put a couple of examples in at the end.....I'm not sure if they count as recommendations.

I was also bowled over that they were Scottish because there's a bubblegum pop quality to the vocals, that could only be American. The question of whether they should be affecting that Atlantic hopping quite so readily...well, its been going on a long time, and I'm sorry to say it ends up sounding vacuous at times. It's aimed at like a deliberate attempt has been made at a certain sound but I dunno what it is because I don't really listen to pop radio at all; it could be Milo Cyrus for all I know or care. I can allude to what it sounds like. My opinion of very beautiful women is that they get a free ride through life, because they don't have to try too hard...because men aren't in control of their faculties in front of them (I can anecdotally give examples of this and that's life) ; and these are gorgeous voices not especially stretching themselves plus some fuzz guitar. Yet, sometimes they settle into a groove and it works....as the actress said to the vicar.

Top tracks; Sea Hearts (https://youtu.be/nMRJbhxXOtg#no)/ Justine, Misery Queen (https://youtu.be/HWFmlQoQxwc#no)
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on November 24, 2016, 12:33:14 PM
New Album of the Week; No.9

We Got It From Here...Thank You 4 Your Service- A Tribe Called Quest (release date: November 11, 2016)
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This generation, rules the nation, with version.

In their own, sample maniplutin' way ATCQ are timelessly melodic and musical, in a similar manner to how The Buzzcocks were 40 years on. Especially Q-Tip has a voice on a 10 year old on a street corner, both "get to school!" and aged street hustler at the same time. They come out of that third wave of hip-hop; post PE and My Adidas and pre-f... the police; floating through a daisy age proclaiming ethnicity without the anger of the former or the rage of the latter. Soulful and mellow. Still. Early hip-hop can be timeless either because they strip all the way back to a kick drum or a snare or because the tunes are melodic. So when they mix up the ingenuous voices, subtler drum patterns and plinky-plonky soundtracks; it's as effective now as it was around 1990.

The whimsical tone, only angry on occasion, helps with the tribute to a lost member who died through illness. A lot of the subtler sounds help the tunes blend into a bigger whole, but, especially the first set is consistently, insistently great. They don't so much go for direct comment on the amazing state of the world and the pressure wave of racism, but they do comment and "We The People";

All you Black folks, you must go
All you Mexicans, you must go
And all you poor folks, you must go
Muslims and gays, boy, we hate your ways
So all you bad folks, you must go


, shows them address current sick circumstances with as much humour as the situation allows.

Q-Tip's a star on his own, but the snatches of Busta Rhymes and André 3000 and some interesting messing around with Elton John's Benny and the Jets (the one The Beastie Boys turned into a rumbling drawl) are a treat; Busta sounding like he's spent ten years gargling single malt whisky. The first block of 8 songs isn't one I'd choose to pick favourites from, as the lighter, sing-song rhyming backed by heavier beats, alternate with growly lyrics and Joni Mitchell dinky tones. Stooping so low as a Musical Youth sample, because their cool enough to pull it off.

Top tracks; We The People...(explicit) (https://youtu.be/vO2Su3erRIA#no)/ the whole lot.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 24, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
Need to give this a few more listens, but I really dug it. Some of the front songs may be a little trivial compared to the back half, but I found them pretty catchy.
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Post by: St. Martin the Bald on November 25, 2016, 08:24:24 AM
Good review but ATCQ's first album rolled out a full 3 yrs after NWA's debut and F the Police.
Playgrounds were raging with gangsta rap when they hit the scene.
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Post by: verbALs on November 25, 2016, 09:50:59 AM
Ok thanks. I associate them with De la Soul and iTunes biog seems to make the same connection. It's a softer kinder form that Kendrick Lamar has brought back and he appears on ths album as well. It's NWA who I mistake as coming later on; probably because outside of Express Yourself I don't really dig. Love Dr Dre on his own though.
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Post by: St. Martin the Bald on November 25, 2016, 01:32:37 PM
Agreed - I always put them and De La Soul along with the the jazz rap of Us3 and the socially conscious stuff from Arrested Development together. I loved that alternative hip hop sound but I think I was always more partial to the east coast vibe. it took me a while to appreciate that west coast style.
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Post by: MartinTeller on November 26, 2016, 12:05:52 AM
ATQC and De La Soul were both part of the "Native Tongues" collective that also included Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifah, Monie Love and (I think) KMD. So you're right to group them together, but NWA did predate all of them.

Still haven't listened to the new Tribe yet. I have this odd compulsion to listen to music in the order I acquired it, and there's a lot in the backlog ahead of it.


edit: whoops, it was Black Sheep I was thinking of, not KMD
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Post by: verbALs on November 26, 2016, 03:40:48 AM
Yeah. I can place listening to 3 Feet High And Rising to a long trip (long for travelling across England anyway ;D ) I made in early 1990. Superb album. I don't think they were the first to go down a mellower road in rap but 3Feet is a landmark. When they say something like on the brilliant Say No Go they were wry about it. Wit undercutting anger appeals greatly "Where once clothes made for Oshkosh...nothing but stonewash"). I bet I didn't listen to any NWA till 93 or later; like I wasn't interested. Possibly too much rage given that PE had been reining their anger in to better effect for years before. Art screaming with rage hardly works as well whatever the form (Serpico no/ Dog Day yes, for example). I realise how important NWA are now but I feel it's more to do with what Dre did after for me. But I see what a subjective view this is.

Listening to this ATCQ album I'm more impressed how the first set works so much better than the second set.

How bizarre! 3ft High isn't on Apple Music! Had to resort to dreary old CD digital. How very.

Jennifa Taught Me (https://youtu.be/FV7FGNTc1RM#no)
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Post by: verbALs on November 27, 2016, 07:01:56 AM
Adding Dirty Mind and When You Were Mine to the list of greatest ever starts to albums. In his rock pop phase, Prince was redefining a 30 year old genre.

Also listened to "Around the World..." the end of this phase before he went the full soul brother. America and Temptation; oh my. This is when The Revolution starts to assert itself and Prince learns to play nicely with others.

Yeah I got a USB record player and it's 1987 again.
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Post by: MartinTeller on November 27, 2016, 11:45:40 AM
I had a sudden, out-of-nowhere hankering to listen to "Condition of the Heart" the other day, and man, is that a good song.
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Post by: oldkid on November 28, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
Martin and verbals, if you guys could please give me your lists of top Prince songs?  I am sadly out of touch with Prince, because his pop stuff didn't do anything for me.  I know that both of you have made these lists, so if you remember where they are, you can link them.  Please?  ;D
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Post by: mañana on November 28, 2016, 10:29:13 PM
if you guys could please give me your lists of top Prince songs
I accept your challenge.
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Post by: verbALs on November 29, 2016, 12:03:54 AM
OK thanks for asking.

It might be easier; since it still looks like Prince's estate are as zealous as ever about taking down online songs, to recommend an album. Sign o the Times would be my pick; stunning eclectic work. He's also quite grown up, less the smutty little devil; mainly because he put all the sex on The Black Album which is a pure funk album. "Sign" has a lot of very mature rock on it.

So I can indulge myself with some 12" picks since that's what I've been listening to and Prince really stretches out on some of them;

How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore
When You Were Mine
Partyup
DMSR
Let's Go Crazy 12" version
Paisley Park
Mountains 12"
Sometimes It Snows In April
Hot Thing 12"
Forever in my Life (esp. the SotT film version)
Gonna Be A Beautiful Night
Thieves In The Temple 12"

The Purple Rain and Parade concert videos are both amazing.
 
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Post by: MartinTeller on November 29, 2016, 12:10:01 AM
I don't think I ever posted such a list... maybe I've forgotten.

I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man
If I Was Your Girlfriend
Eye No
Erotic City
I Would Die 4 U
Controversy
Sometimes It Snows In April
Mountains
Starfish & Coffee
Raspberry Beret
Pop Life
Scarlet Pussy
I Wanna Be Your Lover
When You Were Mine
Jack U Off
the entire first half of 1999 (1999/Little Red Corvette/Delirious/Let's Pretend We're Married/D.M.S.R.)... and most of the second half while we're at it
Take Me With U
Purple Rain
Let's Go Crazy
Condition of the Heart
Paisley Park
Forever in My Life
Play in the Sunshine
Hot Thing
I Wish U Heaven

I know this is a long list, but honest my instinct is to say "his entire 80's output". Including Batman, because that's got some good stuff too. The first two albums from the 70's I'm less familiar with, but I like them. I pretty much jumped ship with Graffiti Bridge... since then I've gone back and found plenty to like in his post-80's catalog, but I'm just not that familiar with it yet.


verbALs got his post in before me, but I will second his choice of the 12" versions... in most cases, they're fantastic.

Even though I highlighted 1999 in my list, if I was going to recommend a single album, I would also choose Sign o the Times. Purple Rain is pretty tough to beat too (although I've always found "Darling Nikki" to be something of a speedbump, at least on the verses).

Not a big fan of The Black Album, I find parts of it kind of embarrassing. Prince is usually awkward when he tries to come off as hard.
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Post by: verbALs on November 29, 2016, 12:39:50 AM
Love the crossovers. I veered away from 1999. It gets raunchy.  ;D

I can agree on Batman. I think Prince was so creative that he needed a little channelling like the movie projects. An idea to hang his ideas around.

Give your folks a call
Tell em you're going to the crystal ball
Tell em you're coming home late if you're coming home at all
Tell em you found a brand new babydoll

-Hot Thing

The Black Album certainly did a lot of damage and started the war with the record company. It marks the end of that cycle. So it's important for different reasons. "Rockhard in a Funky Place" would be a good choice. He did "Bob George" on the Lovesexy tour. That's an experience! The concert films are another way to attack this body of work.
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Post by: oldkid on November 29, 2016, 01:38:56 AM
Thanks, guys.  Tomorrow man, if you have additional songs, please let me know.

You're right, v, about his stuff not being available through streaming.  But I'll listen to them as I can and let you guys know what I think.
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Post by: verbALs on November 29, 2016, 02:06:18 PM
Just checking. Does anyone else here pay for streaming music?

It's only £10 a month here and I pay a bit more so the whole family can access it but it still seems cheap for what you get.

Actually I wonder why they don't extend it to films. For Apple or Amazon that would give them a jump on Spotify. Actually Prime covers music and film I think. It's just I remember the films you got being rubbish.
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Post by: Corndog on November 29, 2016, 03:03:57 PM
I switched from Spotify to Apple Music recently. We pay $14.99/month and my wife and I both have access to it.
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Post by: verbALs on November 29, 2016, 03:12:13 PM
£14.99 here which is quite a bit more but still good value for being everything! What differences do you find between Spotify and Apple?
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Post by: Corndog on November 29, 2016, 03:22:50 PM
I think Apple consistently has more available music, though Spotify had gotten better before we left. I liked the collabroative playlists on Spotify that aren't available in Apple, where two users could contribute, but overall I think the usability of Apple is better, and cleaner than Spotify. They are close, and I don't think you could go wrong with either, but as an Apple user anyway, I find it easier to use Apple Music.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 29, 2016, 03:45:22 PM
I still keep myself free. If I had a longer commute, I might consider it, but I live 10 minutes from work, so most of my music listening is done at a computer and I generally don't mind the ads for something like Spotify. I'm not sure if I have access to Amazon Prime Music. I'm not the primary Prime account, so I have to use my mom's account to get access to Prime Videos. Imagine it's the same for music.
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Post by: St. Martin the Bald on November 29, 2016, 07:07:37 PM
I believe the first four tracks on Regina Spektor's Fidelity album are perfect. In fact sometimes that's all I listen to (along w/ the Hotel Song)...
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Post by: verbALs on December 01, 2016, 02:01:36 PM
New Album of the Week; No.10

Goodnight City- Martha Wainwright (release date: November 11, 2016)
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The many voices of Martha Wainwright.

There's a genre beyond any other; the singer-songwriter, associated with an acoustic guitar in the background. Fascinatingly, this album was contributed to from authors, singers, and other members of the talented Wainwright-MacGarrigle family; because Martha approaches these songs in such a personal way.

Some songs don't need the greatest voice. They need the voice that understands. An example is Carole King. What she writes requires her own voice; her own experience of what the words should mean when expressed. King's voice is fine but it isn't Aretha, and an Aretha version of a King song would be great, but King's voice breaks when it should break, or it struggles in tune to the pain in the words. "Goodnight City" explores as many ways to sing a song as there are songs here. Martha's voice is beyond perfect but she doesn't rest on pitch perfect because that would dishonour the song. Some of these songs are about immediate family; "Franci" is sung to a daughter "wonderful, and wonder" and talks about how Martha didn't know her grandfather (Francis) and how her daughter didn't know Martha's mother (middle name Francis). That song is far from requiring a perfect tone, but how Martha stretches and pushes at her comfort zone is where the communicated emotion comes from.

As the album continues, that tone is further extended; although there are some remarkable modern standards contributed where Martha's voice returns to a 40's/50's purity in between the outrageous gamut of beautiful vocal colour. It isn't as if Martha wasn't experimenting and aggressively exploring her range on previous records, but this is a menagerie of strange songbirds to be caged. Tracks 8 to 11 on an album; branching out in every direction? I think that shows how many fingers are in the pie, with the singer responding to whoever holds the baton. Track 12 "Francis" is a very sweet show tune, which I have to include, because the whiplash from that which preceded it is remarkable.

Top tracks; Alexandria (https://open.spotify.com/track/3NJ0NLJhegPQtJvmAYIaQD#no)/ Take The Reins (https://open.spotify.com/track/2pV8TmAGc7mKlaomJsYT2A#no)/Francis (https://open.spotify.com/track/5IO1UcMfDNZfrSgSw0Xyeg#no)
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Post by: verbALs on December 01, 2016, 02:09:16 PM
Roundup time
Best Albums

1. We Got It From Here...Thank You 4 Your Service- A Tribe Called Quest
2. Goodnight City- Martha Wainwright
3. Let Them Eat Chaos- Kate Tempest
4. Clear Shot- Toy
5. All Your Happy Life- The Wytches
6. Heads Up - Warpaint
7. Toy- Yello
8. The Way - The Buzzcocks
9. Head Carrier- The Pixies
10. Babes Never Die- Honeyblood
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on December 01, 2016, 02:17:21 PM
Nice #1. Was thinking about just making a top hip hop albums of 2016 list cuz that's mostly what I listen to when it comes to new stuff. Gonna wait for that J Cole, tho.
Title: Re: General Music talk
Post by: verbALs on December 08, 2016, 01:03:36 AM
Pixies Cardiff last night. Transcendent. Triumphant. Sold out. Loud. Very.

Played most of new album plus;

Bone Machine, Where is my mind, Cactus, Oh my golly, Caribou, I've been tired, Isla de ..., Debaser, Wave of Mutilation, Hey!, Monkey, Here Comes Your Man, Velouria, Blown Away, Havalima, UMass, Subbacultcha, Motorway to Roswell, Winterlong, Into the White (in a cloud of dry ice!)

Oh my golly.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on December 08, 2016, 11:39:52 PM
Nice #1. Was thinking about just making a top hip hop albums of 2016 list cuz that's mostly what I listen to when it comes to new stuff. Gonna wait for that J Cole, tho.

Um...Ab-Soul???
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Post by: MattDrufke on December 12, 2016, 08:49:55 AM
I feel like it's 15 years ago, because 2 of my favorite albums this year were made by Weezer and Taking Back Sunday.
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Post by: karlwinslow on December 16, 2016, 01:10:21 PM
I love everything about this...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aud86OSqQ1w
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on December 20, 2016, 09:54:43 PM
What is everyone's favorite Lil Yachty song from 2016? What about Young Thug? I'm trying to zone in on my list.
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Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 21, 2016, 03:45:54 PM
I started listening to some Prince songs for the obvious reason today (yes, I know, a bit late to the party). One of them started talking about masturbation out of the blue and now I am a fan.
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Post by: pixote on December 21, 2016, 05:41:54 PM
...and now I am a fan.

Of Prince, or ... ?

pixote
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Post by: Sandy on December 21, 2016, 05:57:48 PM
 :))
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Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 21, 2016, 06:48:51 PM
 ;D
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Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 22, 2016, 04:44:48 AM
...and now I am a fan.

Of Prince, or ... ?

pixote

The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Post by: jdc on December 22, 2016, 01:48:17 PM
Either way, if you are just now figuring it out you are far behind where you should be
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Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 22, 2016, 02:32:38 PM
Or maybe I have always been far ahead.
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Post by: St. Martin the Bald on December 25, 2016, 09:52:40 PM
So I am working through George Michael's back catalogue...
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Post by: Monty on December 26, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goroyZbVdlo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goroyZbVdlo)

I woke up this morning and found out that he had died. I was genuinely shocked and saddened :'(
I tweeted earlier 'Praying For Time' is one helluva a song and probably my favourite of his. 
Must be that slight Lennon vibe.
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Post by: MattDrufke on December 27, 2016, 10:02:52 AM
New Run The Jewels is out and can be streamed for free!
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Post by: Verite on December 28, 2016, 01:28:40 AM
New Run The Jewels is out and can be streamed for free!

Dunno if it's still available for free download.  It was the last time I checked (yesterday).  A few bangers on RTJ3.  My clear favorite of the three is RTJ2, tho.
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Post by: The Deer Hunter on August 03, 2017, 01:50:15 AM
So i was trying to think of a song lately and i happened to stumble into it on the radio the other day but now I'm curious if someone could've picked it from the clues i had. My clues were the sound was somewhere in between Toploader's "Dancing In The Moonlight" and Sonia Dada's "Lover Lover". And it may or may not have had a black lead singer. Any ideas?
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Post by: oldkid on August 03, 2017, 02:31:57 PM
I inputted those songs in my brain and came out with:

Who Loves You Pretty Baby by Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons.

What????

That song was done by Frankie Valli?  What?  And O What a Night? 

I had no idea!
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Post by: The Deer Hunter on August 09, 2017, 05:57:35 AM
The song i was after was Roachford's "Lay Your Love On Me". I feel like i was pretty close. ;D
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Post by: mañana on January 09, 2018, 12:29:20 AM
Not sure why I resisted HAIM for so long. Turns out I love them.
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Post by: ses on January 11, 2018, 12:21:31 PM
So finally getting on The Tragically Hip train...how were they not more popular in America? They're pretty great. 
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Post by: aewade90 on January 15, 2018, 08:02:36 PM
Singer of The Cranberries, Dolores O'Riordan, passed today.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on May 30, 2018, 07:31:53 PM
We're on the precipice of greatness. I think Kanye is having the listening party sometime in the next 24 hours. Ready to be blessed.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on May 31, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
We're on the precipice of greatness. I think Kanye is having the listening party sometime in the next 24 hours. Ready to be blessed.

We aren't worthy. Praise be to the most high.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 01, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
That 070 Shake on "Ghost Town"...
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 07, 2018, 09:06:35 PM
Getting ready for more of those Ghosts. So close to being blessed again.
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Post by: 1SO on September 12, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
Like many my age, there was a time when “Tainted Love” by Soft Cell perfectly expressed a situation I was in. I recently learned about the original video for the song which put a very different slant on its meaning.
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Post by: The Deer Hunter on September 15, 2018, 09:41:28 AM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Thrice%E2%80%99s_tenth_studio_album_cover%2C_Palms.jpeg)

Thrice - Palms

This is an absolute killer of an album.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on September 27, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Getting ready for more of those Ghosts. So close to being blessed again.

About to be blessed once more on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

Kanye is a God. Yandhi is too big to fail.
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Post by: philip918 on September 28, 2018, 07:08:02 PM
Fun seeing Colin Stetson getting film and television composition work. Hereditary and now the The First on Hulu.