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Title: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 18, 2014, 02:05:40 AM
I guess we can't say that it's annual, because we missed a year :(  But it would be the sixth annual. 

I'm new to this, so I'd like to cover all the basics.  What month (August/September)?  Who will get involved with what?

I'm willing to do the advertising and the basic compilation and the presentation.

Corndog said he'd help.  Bondo said he'd help with the number stuff (which is good, because that's the scariest part for me).  1SO said he'd help with screenshots and forum quotes (which is a great way to go).

Any thoughts or considerations?  Any new ideas?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 18, 2014, 06:25:53 AM
August/September is fine. At the moment no new ideas, the basic structure of the top 100 works. It just comes down to a discussion of how to work out the position of each voted film. Is it allowed to created a block of films and not rank those within the block, then how to 'score' each of those films. Do you allow people to give a rank score to there selection, with maximum values for a film and a minimum. So a person is allocated 4000 points (which will mean that you can not just go from 100 to 1 for the 100 films), a film can get a maximum of 100 points, so they might give 5 films 100 points then 50 films they might give 50 points to 35 films get 25 points and 5 get 20 points and 5 get 5 points. Just something different, however it will be more work as the entry of data will have an extra figure. Just an idea.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 18, 2014, 07:02:48 AM
The traditional scoring is something like:
1st=20 points
2-5=15 points
6-10=10 points
11-20=8 points
21-30=6 points
31-40=5 points
41-60=4 points
61-80=2 points
81-100=1 point
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 18, 2014, 12:13:02 PM
Dave, I like your idea.  But a brief consideration of how that would divide in my top 100 made me realize that I would have to do actual MATH!  That was a scary moment.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 18, 2014, 01:33:38 PM
Dave's "pick your points" option, with a max individual film and collective total (arguably one could choose to have fewer than 100 submitted films with a higher average or maybe even more than 100 with a lower average) is interesting. It would also be an administrative complication on the back end, though ultimately manageable. I reckon it is actually more of an extra time investment for creation of ballots than tabulation of ballots (unless it results in more films being on ballots, though it could very well result in fewer films being on ballots if we allow it).

BTW, based on my sample standard point distribution, we are looking at 460 total points in a 100 film ballot. So maybe a 500 point total list maximum with a single film maximum of 25? Unfortunately, it is hard to test the effects of such a system easily to know what level of individual maximum would lead to perhaps films making it on the group list based on a small number of max votes. I guess if the lists were ranked and had points, we'd have the old system as a back-up if things seemed awry, though that WOULD be a significant administrative time bump.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 18, 2014, 01:39:05 PM
I can see one difficulty, in which it would be easier to game the system.  To guarantee a placement of a lower-ranked film in the group 100, a person can put all points on one film.  So, for instance, I want to see In America on the list, so I put all my points on that film and just don't list any others.  It's a silly thing, but we might want to have a minimum number of films, like, say 50.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Melvil on May 18, 2014, 01:46:22 PM
I think Dave accounted for that by saying a film can receive a maximum of 100 points. That way you know your most-favored films will still only have as many points as someone else's most-favored, regardless of how many films they list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Jared on May 18, 2014, 02:24:48 PM
Oof. I would just assign points using the weighting of our traditional system...ranking the bloody things is hard enough
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 18, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
That's where I lean as well, Jared.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Corndog on May 18, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
I would prefer the traditional method. It's tried and true. Never failed us yet. And simple enough for everyone involved.

If we have marketing (oldkid), operations (Bondo), and distribution (1SO), I'm not sure how else I could help, but tell me what I can do and I'll do it!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 19, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
So it looks like some are interested in a possible change to the scoring, and some prefer the old ways. It is easier to explain the old ways and most people are happy with it. However should we have a poll (formal or informal) on changing the scoring? I have no attachment to any particular scoring method.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 19, 2014, 07:40:45 AM
Unless people are complaining about the wheel, I don't see a need to spend time trying to rebuild it. That would add more work to an already significant project. I'm fine with the old-school method.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 19, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
Poll is up!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Melvil on May 19, 2014, 12:35:10 PM
Oof. I would just assign points using the weighting of our traditional system...ranking the bloody things is hard enough

Yeah, I have to agree with this. Keep it simple.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Devil on May 19, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
I'm with the Keep It Simple Stupid army
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 19, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
I had to give my idea 1 vote  ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 19, 2014, 09:56:29 PM
More than one vote now.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 19, 2014, 11:14:09 PM
I decided even with extra work, any new system would be fun because it would hold more potential for surprise.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on May 21, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
I think the original point allocation suggested was overly complicated, but I welcome any change that allows for more potential variety.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: JakeIsntFake on May 21, 2014, 03:11:47 PM
So with whatever method we end up using, will I still be able to participate with merely a Top 25 or Top 50?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 21, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
@Jake, yes, I can't imagine we'd end up on a system that disallows shorter ballots.

As a bit of summary of the history of our group list scoring:

So most group lists on the forum have used the standard system...ranked list where the top selections are weighted more heavily. Tweaking the number of films that can be submitted or the degree of weighting can shift results a bit. Arguably less weighting or longer lists would lead to more uniformity (the most broadly accepted films dominating) while higher weighting or shorter lists would lead to more unpredictability, films getting on with fewer voters. So tweaking one way or the other is possible depending on what we would want to accomplish. I'd be opposed to longer lists (>100) because that's more work for me. Dave's system is just a more flexible version of the standard system that would probably lend itself to higher weighting and shorter lists. If the openness is too complex, we could accomplish similar by having ballots be 50 films and just make the points drop-off more precipitous.

A second system we used was for the Best of the Decade (00s) (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=7568.msg425697) where there was no weighting. In this case the goal was a bit more toward broad consensus so it was functional enough. However, one facet we built into that one was the ability to cast a negative vote for particular films to catch one's ire. This option was not widely utilized and probably didn't affect too much (I'd have to actually read through the threads). The results of an unweighted system would be easy enough to compute for comparison alongside most other systems. I believe Sight & Sound's list is unweighted in this manner...with small ballots (ten films each).

The third system we've used was the "rate all" system, used for the Documentaries list. This is basically the Ratings Project now and thus wouldn't be usefully different from what we already have.

So what completely novel (but not overly complex) process could we try out that isn't basically one of the above? I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on May 21, 2014, 03:27:57 PM
I'm in favor of a non-weighted system, or a very mildly weighted one.  However, I'm also in favor of doing it the way it's always been done, for consistency's sake.

Ratings Project-style rating seems like it would be a lot of work for everyone.  We should keep it simple to encourage participation.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on May 21, 2014, 03:48:08 PM
I'd be opposed to longer lists (>100) because that's more work for me.
It doesn't have to be if you ask people to submit imdb lists, or make imdb lists yourself if you think asking people for them is too high a burden. I could help you out with that if you want. It makes tabulation a relative breeze and you can pull out a lot of imdb's metadata from the export to make for a nicer presentation.

I'd love to be able to submit a list longer than 100, even if it's not going to affect much of anything.

As for point systems, if the point system is variable (each user has x points to distribute among up to y films) then you probably want to keep things from being too complex just because otherwise it'll turn people off. If the point system is fixed, (i.e everyone's #1 gets the same points, everyone's #2 gets the same points, etc) then the system can be as complex as you want and it doesn't really affect tabulation because you're just associating ranks with points using whatever system or formula you choose.

I personally think the current system (1st=20 points, 2-5=15 points, 6-10=10 points, 11-20=8 points, 21-30=6 points, 31-40=5 points, 41-60=4 points, 61-80=2 points, 81-100=1 point) is way too top heavy. I do think a weighted system is nice to give meaning to rankings, I don't value my #1 film the same as my #100, but I also don't value it 20 times my #100 and twice my #6. An option for people who want to submit an unranked list can also be given with a weighted system for those who don't like to rank.

I have lots of opinions about better fixed point systems, but not sure it's worth typing it all out.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 21, 2014, 08:49:09 PM
I wonder if it's possible to give some people an option to not weight their lists.  If a person doesn't say anything, it's the standard system.  Otherwise all films get the same weight (5 points?).  Would that be fair and possible?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 21, 2014, 09:33:20 PM
The way I enter things, there is no effort difference between standard and individualized scoring. I enter point values, not tiers. So standard, Dave's, flat, it's all the same on my end. I'm pretty content with people choosing their own weighting if single film and total list limits are in effect.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 23, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
So what completely novel (but not overly complex) process could we try out that isn't basically one of the above? I'm not sure.

If you want fun & surprise nothing can beat a lottery system!

(http://i.imgur.com/vcxrtkl.jpg)

Each film mentioned on someone's top 100 adds one ball representing that film to the tumbler. Fill up the tumbler with all the balls, and draw 100 and see what you get!

A popular film, like The Godfather, will have many balls, and thus a very good chance of making the list. A film with only solo support (one ball), like Grandma's Boy, will be extremely unlikely to make the list. But it could! Anything could happen! Which is why it would be so fun and make the chat room really crazy during the drawing process! Every draw someone wins! And you could argue, that's the best part of the top 100's anyways... the unveiling! :))

Too random? I thought the same thing. A way around this, but still preserving the lottery fun, would be to allow a film to move up the ranks for any additional balls draw in it's name. So the Godfather may start out at 35th spot, but if another one of its balls was selected it could jump 10 spots (or however many spots we determine... maybe it's auto #1, only bumped by subsequent two-ball picks). Whereas a film like Grandma's Boy could never advance, and probably wouldn't make the list anyways.

You could also have it so when balls are selected they get thrown back into the tumbler after, so films preserve their popularity throughout the process, rather than see it dwindle.



Advantages of this system:

-No more laborious tabulating, which involves proofreading ballots for uniformity in formatting & misspelling. All that would need to be done with this new method is cut/paste every ballot into one long A column in excel, and then in column B just put  =rand() next to every title. Excel recalculates the =rand function every time you sort column b, so you could build a macro to have a one-button sort B function. And every time you pressed it, whatever title showed up in Row 1 would essentially be the ball you are drawing from the tumbler.

-Wildly exciting and surprising! :))

Would love to hear the feedback for this crazy idea!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on May 23, 2014, 05:54:22 PM
After the Celtics got screwed in the recent NBA draft lottery, I'm all for a system that will show the exciting, good things that might happen in a lottery. If this doesn't gain any support, I'd still like to see some version of it implemented in some way. Maybe a supplemental top 100. Or take out any movies that make the top 100 and make a top 100 (or 50 or whatever) from the remaining films in this way. That's kinda fun!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 23, 2014, 06:03:55 PM
Participation ought to be high because it's easy (no ranking required) and everyone has a chance to celebrate. And with promotion it could maybe draw out some people to vote who've never done it before, because they just might see their favourite films get the kind of exposure they've never gotten before. :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Jared on May 23, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
You're insane but you might also be brilliant.

I don't know about that system for the official top 100, but 100 films selected that way would be fun thing to do. I would pledge into a marathon pact to watch anything I hadn't seen if we made such a list. 
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 23, 2014, 06:28:18 PM
Oh snap, the stakes just got raised! :))
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 23, 2014, 07:06:20 PM
Oh, I like this idea...  It sounds like a lot of fun.

But if we chose this system, would this really be "our" list?  I mean, we chose the films, but the end result would be more random and less community.   

Thinking about it...
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 23, 2014, 07:07:24 PM
I think it would become our burden to bear and celebrate both. :) And whatever the result, it's only for a year. Think of it as an eclectic snapshot.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on May 23, 2014, 07:22:28 PM
I like it, 'noff!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 23, 2014, 07:41:10 PM
Okay, I have re-set the poll!  I'm afraid Dave's numbering option wasn't accepted (this year), mostly because it was felt to be too much work for a ballot.

Now, let's set the traditional system up against smirnoff's lottery!  Which would you prefer for our official top 100?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 23, 2014, 07:44:08 PM
I prefer to think of it as a weighted-lottery-of-mega-fun than a randomizer, but I shall not quibble. :))
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 23, 2014, 07:45:31 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 23, 2014, 11:22:47 PM
I prefer to call 'noff's system the Adjusted Group Vishnevetsky.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 24, 2014, 05:18:34 AM
Lottery for my pick. It is great idea.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 24, 2014, 08:13:20 AM
smirnoff,

I will say that your slightly less random amendment (when a film is picked a second time it moves up) is a bit complicated for me. My proposal is that we'd put all the names in the virtual hopper and then maybe pick 500 or 1000 of them at random (if we got 40 ballots, we'd have upwards of 4000 entries). Then they'd be ranked by frequency. Positional tie-breakers within this group would be, of course, random draw.

Anyway, I'm on board.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 24, 2014, 08:23:19 AM
This sounds like a slightly modified version of  Ignatiy Vishnevetsky's list-making method (http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-sight-sound-film-poll-ignatiy-vishnevetsky-on-how-to-make-a-random-top-ten-list).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 24, 2014, 12:49:44 PM
I will say that your slightly less random amendment (when a film is picked a second time it moves up) is a bit complicated for me.

Do you mean more complicated in an implementation sense? Like actually working out the results in a spreadsheet?

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My proposal is that we'd put all the names in the virtual hopper and then maybe pick 500 or 1000 of them at random (if we got 40 ballots, we'd have upwards of 4000 entries). Then they'd be ranked by frequency. Position tie-breakers within this group would be, of course, random draw.

I'm not opposed to this approach, but to me this two-stage process appears to be more complicated because the second stage ranking would require uniformity in formatting and spelling. Also, I'm a little unsure if the two stages introduce balance or contradiction. One stage is in the spirit of lottery, and the other in the spirit of consensus. Not that a consensus lottery is some kind of paradox, but I dunno...

I must admit though, I'm enamoured with the idea of pressing a button, seeing the result, and turning around and posting that result in chat. There's a real immediacy to it that's kind of thrilling. As opposed to the trickle of information distrubuted from a list which you already know is fixed. With the old method you could at first be hopeful that a film on the cusp might crack the top 100, but as you got down to the top 50 you just kind of knew it wasn't coming. And by the top ten you pretty well knew what was left, if not what order it would arrive. But a lottery perserves that sense of "it could happen" right to the last spot. In fact the excitement only builds as you get higher and higher, with the #1 selection being the climax of the process rather than the most predictable moment.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on May 24, 2014, 01:32:50 PM
I'm not opposed to this approach, but to me this two-stage process appears to be more complicated because the second stage ranking would require uniformity in formatting and spelling.

There's gonna be a bit of this no matter what unless we want a single film to appear on the list multiple times. At some point human eyes will have to evaluate if a film is the same or different from others.

I'm not sure our variations were that far off and now I think I'm getting a slightly better idea of what you were going with (when I said complicated, it was less implementation and more knowing what I should actually be doing). So let me know if this is what you are going for. I'd run the randomizer for all the films. I'd go down the list until I get 100 unique films. Each time I hit a non-unique film, that film would be bumped to the top (it got luckier and thus is ranked higher). Those that appear twice before the full 100 is locked in are above those that appear once. Those that appear thrice are above those that appear twice and so forth. Since the first one up is higher than the second one up generally, I feel for consistency the first one to double up (King Me) would be ahead of the second one to double up. If this is basically what you had in mind, I think that is a perfectly fine way to do it.

Anyway, we'd just need to have a period for people to submit their lists and then the actual forming of the list would take...30 minutes? My job would be easy, the real task would be for 1SO and the presentation of images/quotes. I do like the idea of just the list being more a slice of the group's tastes than a definitive consensus. Though knowing my luck, I'd manage to place none of my 100 on the list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on May 24, 2014, 02:14:37 PM
We've heard mostly positive things about this style. Anybody feel strongly the other way?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on May 24, 2014, 03:33:16 PM
I'm not opposed to this approach, but to me this two-stage process appears to be more complicated because the second stage ranking would require uniformity in formatting and spelling.

There's gonna be a bit of this no matter what unless we want a single film to appear on the list multiple times. At some point human eyes will have to evaluate if a film is the same or different from others.


That's sort of what I had in mind was a "human eyes" approach.

This demo spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nLP6_dbsKaQI9aSzrUlBlzpTq1-iT4uq3jzWY_wJ_go/pubhtml) shows the basic mechanics of the idea.

Rather then establishing the list before the chat began, it would be generated in real time. For each slot in the top 100 you would sort B, and see the result, and announce it in chat. And the random numbers get re-generated automatically after each sorting, so subsequent sorts will yield different results.

The process of sorting takes just a few clicks, and wouldn't not cause any foreseeable delays in the chat. A few clicks between each announcement, then copy/paste the results from the result cell.

As you see, the spelling and formatting of the film in Column A is not uniform, but it won't really matter because you know what it means. You can just reformat the results on the fly.

As for how to handle duplicates in the moment, that's a significant difficulty. Because now you are bumping films and it's hard for people in chat to keep track of placement, and it's probably too chaotic. So either you just do a straight lottery and duplicate draws are ignored, or you predetermine the list ahead of time and sort out all the duplication stuff.

I like the duplication advancement variable, but I also like the idea of real-time list creation on the night. I don't know why... I'm being silly about that I guess. There's no practical difference if the list is predetermined, but somehow it feels different. It would be more exciting for you, the drawer, if you were basically finding out the results right along side us. :) Obviously though this would eliminate the ability to make a postable list ahead of time that could be published in the forum in realtime along with pictures and quotes. So maybe a predetermined list is the best way to go.

Anyways the demo spreadsheet sort of shows the drawing process midway through completion, with duplicate advancement in effect.

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Though knowing my luck, I'd manage to place none of my 100 on the list.

You can't win either way. If any of your top 100 makes the list will say it's rigged! Especially if it's #1. :))

Oh and I tend to agree that first duplicate gets the worm, so to speak.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on May 24, 2014, 08:26:37 PM
We've heard mostly positive things about this style. Anybody feel strongly the other way?

I don't feel strongly, but I am on the fence, leaning toward the traditional approach.

While 'Noff's Lottery has the element of surprise, it also lessens meaning.  The list won't represent the community.

Also, it means that the films that we feel most strongly about won't receive a greater vote than our #100.  The only thing that counts is the vote, and no matter how much we feel about our number one, it doesn't get any extra push unless someone else also happens to have it on their top 100.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Verite on May 24, 2014, 08:42:15 PM
Other ways to add the element of surprise:

-Voters may only share their ballot after the unveiling of the final results
-Each ballot contains the person's top 200 films (ranked in order of preference)
-Any film that appeared in any of the past final compiled (i.e. community) lists is excluded

I'm participating regardless of which ranking method is chosen.



Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on June 11, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
I guess the poll settled it. Onward and upward?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on June 11, 2014, 04:34:53 PM
I guess the poll settled it. Onward and upward?

Weighted-lottery-of-mega-fun is still a genius idea.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on June 12, 2014, 12:32:15 PM
It is.  I wanted to see if there'd be more votes for it.  But we'll stick with the usual.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on June 12, 2014, 12:54:52 PM
I hope you all realize that you'll be getting a weighted-lottery-of-mega-fun list whether you like it or not.  8)

It is so easy to generate that I figure I might as well put it out there alongside the official one.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on June 12, 2014, 01:53:41 PM
So cool.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on June 12, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
Maybe it can be a teaser while the main top 100 is still being assembled. :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 01, 2014, 06:24:15 PM
It is time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olLxrojmvMg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olLxrojmvMg)


Time for the new Filmspotting Forum Top 100!

Every year we, the Forum, collect our top film lists, collate them and see what the most important films are to us as a group.  Why do we do this?  It's because it's what we do!

Please, everyone, whether a contributor or lurker, make your top film list, anywhere from five to one hundred.  Please rank them as well as you can. 

Please turn in your lists  to Bondo via a message on the forum (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send) anytime before 12am August 23rd.  The countdown of the composite list will be sometime in the following week (TBA)

You can make a new list or turn in an old one, but please, let’s have as many people turning in lists as possible! (One per person, 100 films or less).

If you make a new list, please remember to post it on the Top Films of All Time thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.0) as well.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 02, 2014, 12:42:19 AM
I hope this inspires people to prioritize their Watchlist and aim for some fresh blood in their Top 100 Lists.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on August 02, 2014, 12:44:19 AM
I just watched two subitlted movies in a row, what do you think I'm doing?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Melvil on August 02, 2014, 12:50:53 AM
Hooray!

Feels like it's about time to revise my list anyways.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 02, 2014, 01:52:36 AM
I've been working on mine.  Probably will be posting it soon.  I'd love to have a last-minute great new discovery to add to it, but that's unlikely.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 02, 2014, 02:07:54 AM
Your Top 250 doesn't include Demy's Lola, which I bet you're going to be watching soon (and in the right aspect ratio.) Perhaps it'll sneak in.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 02, 2014, 02:16:54 AM
Judging from this year so far, new discoveries are a lost cause. I think my top 15 first time viewings of 2014 are 2013-2014 films. I'm more concerned about rewatching my one-timers
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 02, 2014, 02:34:57 AM
Your Top 250 doesn't include Demy's Lola, which I bet you're going to be watching soon (and in the right aspect ratio.) Perhaps it'll sneak in.

I think I noticed that myself the other day and added it, but I might be thinking of something else.  I'll double-check tomorrow.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 02, 2014, 08:21:59 AM
I just made a new top 100 (http://cinemasights.com/?p=13706) not too long ago, so the chances of me turning around and making another this soon are kinda slim unless I see something that I absolute feel I have to vote for this year in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 02, 2014, 08:39:24 AM
I take that as permission, if I don't hear anything else by the deadline, to use that list as your entry. :)

I suppose I should go ahead and get mine settled now rather than once a lot of ballots start pouring in. Wouldn't want to risk shaping my ballot from knowledge.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: JakeIsntFake on August 02, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
Revising your top 100 is much harder than forming it for the first time. I started a half-hearted revision/upgrade to top 50 that I ditched at 26. I'll come back to it for this.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Monty on August 02, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
When is the closing date for submissions? I Also don't have a list of my top 100 films, must have been busy doing other things ???, but I'll give it a go. Do they have to be in numerical order, or can they just be my favourite films?


Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 02, 2014, 02:40:49 PM
Submissions are due by the 23rd. Ordering is good, at least by cluster (1, 2-5, 6-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-60, 61-80, 81-100) because if you give me an unranked list, I'll probably end up just treating it as if it were ranked (though I suppose I could just assign each film the average value).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: The Deer Hunter on August 02, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
I don't foresee any changes to my recently made top 50 (http://letterboxd.com/kopenhaver/list/top-50-films-of-all-time/) but I'll leave it open until the deadline just in case.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 04, 2014, 11:30:24 PM
Update regarding submission format. While they need to be in order (from 1 up to 100), it is preferable if they are not actually numbered as that makes me have to remove the numbering before getting it into the spreadsheet. If you have already submitted, don't worry, I can sort it out...just don't want to have to sort it out for all of them.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 05, 2014, 01:31:57 AM
I wonder if we should send out a message to the most frequent users of the forum, giving format information...
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 05, 2014, 04:40:01 PM
Update regarding submission format. While they need to be in order (from 1 up to 100), it is preferable if they are not actually numbered as that makes me have to remove the numbering before getting it into the spreadsheet. If you have already submitted, don't worry, I can sort it out...just don't want to have to sort it out for all of them.

Excel's Text-to-columns (http://www.excel-easy.com/examples/text-to-columns.html) function makes pretty short work of that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: roujin on August 05, 2014, 05:05:54 PM
I've gathered images. This will be a back to basics list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on August 05, 2014, 05:08:42 PM
I've gathered images. This will be a back to basics list.

Can't wait. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTykzD6TlZM#noexternalembed)

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: roujin on August 05, 2014, 05:09:33 PM
You got me. My list is the Terry Crews filmography in chronological order.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 05, 2014, 05:11:44 PM
I expect more Hawks and less pinku.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 05, 2014, 06:07:50 PM
Update regarding submission format. While they need to be in order (from 1 up to 100), it is preferable if they are not actually numbered as that makes me have to remove the numbering before getting it into the spreadsheet. If you have already submitted, don't worry, I can sort it out...just don't want to have to sort it out for all of them.

Excel's Text-to-columns (http://www.excel-easy.com/examples/text-to-columns.html) function makes pretty short work of that sort of thing.

Indeed, this was the plan, I was hoping for even shorter work though.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: mañana on August 05, 2014, 06:08:55 PM
Excel's Text-to-columns (http://www.excel-easy.com/examples/text-to-columns.html) function makes pretty short work of that sort of thing.
I shared that move with some co-workers a while back. It blew their CINECAST!ing minds.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on August 05, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
Indeed, this was the plan, I was hoping for even shorter work though.

=RIGHT(A1,LEN(A1)-FIND(" ",A1))

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Verite on August 05, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
You got me. My list is the Terry Crews filmography in chronological order.

Lee Min-ho wept.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 05, 2014, 07:01:25 PM
Excel's Text-to-columns (http://www.excel-easy.com/examples/text-to-columns.html) function makes pretty short work of that sort of thing.
I shared that move with some co-workers a while back. It blew their CINECAST!ing minds.
I would love a magic show that was all excel tricks.

Wait... we have a thread for comments like that. (http://i.imgur.com/kHUJRAJ.gif)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: roujin on August 05, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
You got me. My list is the Terry Crews filmography in chronological order.

Lee Min-ho wept.

He hasn't really done movies. He should totally work with Hong.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Verite on August 05, 2014, 10:53:41 PM
He hasn't really done movies.

Three is more than enough.  Gangnam Blues should be included sight unseen  8)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Beavermoose on August 06, 2014, 10:38:52 PM
So I'm working on a new list... I have 461 movies up for contention. Might take a while...
For the sake of making things easier and eliminating quite a few, are short films eligible for these lists?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 07, 2014, 12:40:40 AM
Short films should be fine, as long as you recognize that they are highly unlikely to make the final list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Harpo Speaks on August 07, 2014, 06:40:15 AM
Attempting to compile my 100, and I'm not finding it an easy task. Expect it to be top-heavy with populist nostalgia picks though.

I'm interested to know how much people take into account the amount of times they've seen a particular film, and whether they feel they need a couple of viewings at least before something is cemented into hallowed list.

Similarly I wondered about so-called 'one-timers', films that had a massive impact on you when you watched them but that you had no real desire to revisit.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 07, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
Pics and notes here (http://martinteller.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/top-100-2014-revision/)


1   Fanny and Alexander (1982, Ingmar Bergman)
2   Mahanagar a.k.a. The Big City (1963, Satyajit Ray)
3   The Hole (1998, Ming-liang Tsai)
4   A Woman Under the Influence (1974, John Cassavetes)
5   Linda Linda Linda (2005, Nobuhiro Yamashita)
6   Charulata (1964, Satyajit Ray)
7   Scenes From a Marriage (1973, Ingmar Bergman)
8   Casablanca (1942, Michael Curtiz)
9   Time of the Gypsies (1988, Emir Kusturica)
10   An Angel at My Table (1990, Jane Campion)
11   Goodfellas (1990, Martin Scorsese)
12   Eraserhead (1977, David Lynch)
13   Rear Window (1954, Alfred Hitchcock)
14   Taxi Driver (1976, Martin Scorsese)
15   Aguirre: The Wrath of God (1972, Werner Herzog)
16   The Shining (1980, Stanley Kubrick)
17   Jules and Jim (1962, Francois Truffaut)
18   Double Indemnity (1944, Billy Wilder)
19   All That Jazz (1979, Bob Fosse)
20   The Vertical Ray of the Sun (2000, Anh Hung Tran)
21   Seven Samurai (1954, Akira Kurosawa)
22   Revenge of a Kabuki Actor (1963, Kon Ichikawa)
23   What Time Is It There? (2001, Ming-liang Tsai)
24   The Trial (1962, Orson Welles)
25   The Blues Brothers (1980, John Landis)
26   Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981, Steven Spielberg)
27   The Exterminating Angel (1962, Luis Bunuel)
28   Nights of Cabiria (1957, Federico Fellini)
29   The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966, Sergio Leone)
30   Stop Making Sense (1984, Jonathan Demme)
31   Pather Panchali (1955, Satyajit Ray)
32   Apocalypse Now (1979, Francis Ford Coppola)
33   Hausu a.k.a. House (1977, Nobuhiko Obayashi)
34   Once (2006, John Varney)
35   8½ (1963, Federico Fellini)
36   All About My Mother (1999, Pedro Almodovar)
37   El Norte (1983, Gregory Nava)
38   The Scent of Green Papaya (1993, Anh Hung Tran)
39   Innocence (2004, Lucile Hadzihalilovic)
40   The Tree of Life (2011, Terrence Malick)
41   Airplane! (1980, Jim Abrahams, David Zucker, Jerry Zucker)
42   Drugstore Cowboy (1989, Gus Van Sant)
43   The Wicker Man (1973, Robin Hardy)
44   Vertigo (1958, Alfred Hitchcock)
45   Winter Light (1962, Ingmar Bergman)
46   Do the Right Thing (1989, Spike Lee)
47   The Turin Horse (2011, Bela Tarr)
48   High and Low (1963, Akira Kurosawa)
49   Mulholland Drive (2001, David Lynch)
50   Last Year at Marienbad (1961, Alain Resnais)
51   Werckmeister Harmonies (2000, Bela Tarr)
52   Sweet Smell of Success (1957, Alexander Mackendrick)
53   Play Time (1967, Jacques Tati)
54   The Night of the Hunter (1955, Charles Laughton)
55   Woman in the Dunes (1964, Hiroshi Teshigahara)
56   The Long Day Closes (1992, Terence Davies)
57   American Movie (1999, Chris Smith)
58   Red Beard (1965, Akira Kurosawa)
59   The Wayward Cloud (2005, Ming-liang Tsai)
60   Songs from the Second Floor (2000, Roy Andersson)
61   Syndromes and a Century (2006, Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
62   Secrets & Lies (1996, Mike Leigh)
63   2001: A Space Odyssey (1968, Stanley Kubrick)
64   Girl Walk//All Day (2011, Jason Krupnick)
65   Devils on the Doorstep (2000, Wen Jiang)
66   Blue Velvet (1986, David Lynch)
67   Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966, Mike Nichols)
68   The Dead (1987, John Huston)
69   Meet Me in St. Louis (1944, Vincente Minnelli)
70   Safe (1995, Todd Haynes)
71   The Story of Qiu Ju (1992, Zhang Yimou)
72   Devi (1960, Satyajit Ray)
73   A Moment of Innocence (1996, Mohsen Makhmalbaf)
74   The Lineup (1958, Don Siegel)
75   The New World (2005, Terrence Malick)
76   Three Colors: Blue (1993, Krzysztof Kieslowski)
77   In the Loop (2009, Armando Iannucci)
78   The Burglar (1957, Paul Wendkos)
79   I Fidanzati (1963, Ermanno Olmi)
80   The Royal Tenenbaums (2001, Wes Anderson)
81   Hairspray (1988, John Waters)
82   Shame (1968, Ingmar Bergman)
83   Cairo Station (1958, Youssef Chahine)
84   Blade Runner (1982, Ridley Scott)
85   Sita Sings the Blues (2008, Nina Paley)
86   Wendy and Lucy (2008, Kelly Reichardt)
87   A Page of Madness (1926, Teinosuke Kinugasa)
88   A Man Escaped (1956, Robert Bresson)
89   As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (2000, Jonas Mekas)
90   The Seventh Victim (1943, Mark Robson)
91   The Cloud-Capped Star (1960, Ritwik Ghatak)
92   Thirst for Love (1966, Koreyoshi Kurahara)
93   Stalker (1979, Andrei Tarkovsky)
94   Imitation of Life (1959, Douglas Sirk)
95   Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975, Peter Weir)
96   Rat-Trap (1982, Adoor Gopalakrishnan)
97   Rosetta (1999, Luc and Jean-Pierre Dardenne)
98   Malcolm X (1992, Spike Lee)
99   The Match Factory Girl (1990, Aki Kaurismaki)
100   Xanadu (1980, Robert Greenwald)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 07, 2014, 07:05:03 PM
Fabulous list, Martin (as usual! :) )!  Love that Angel at My Table is now in your top 10.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 07, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
Thanks oad!

Fabulous list, Martin (as usual! :) )!  Love that Angel at My Table is now in your top 10.

I showed it to my fiancée the other night... it's her favorite out of everything I've showed her so far.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 07, 2014, 07:10:20 PM
I showed it to my fiancée the other night... it's her favorite out of everything I've showed her so far.
Awesome.  8)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sandy on August 07, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
I love how Linda, Linda, Linda speaks to you so well. It makes me wish I had been in a band at one time, so I could have that particular connection with it.



Oh!! And Xanadu! :))   Your neon lights will shine!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 07, 2014, 10:16:56 PM
Yeah LLL just works for me on every level.  I get so much pleasure out of it.

Note that 5 of my new additions are musicals of one form or another (while only losing one, The Wall).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 07, 2014, 11:03:12 PM
I feel like I know your list almost as well as I know my own. Always a delight to pour through. The highest ranked ones I hadn't seen were Turin Horse and Visage. Now Visage is replaced by As I Was Moving Ahead... Rat-Trap is the only other title in your 100 for me to watch when I'm ready.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Beavermoose on August 07, 2014, 11:08:13 PM
So I'm working on a new list... I have 461 movies up for contention. Might take a while...
Down to 358. Slowly but surely.
Short films should be fine, as long as you recognize that they are highly unlikely to make the final list.

Yea I don't really care about the filmspotting list. I really just want to update my top 100 so that it represents my taste. The last one I did was 3 years ago! Pre film school. My film knowledge has changed a lot!

Attempting to compile my 100, and I'm not finding it an easy task. Expect it to be top-heavy with populist nostalgia picks though.

I'm interested to know how much people take into account the amount of times they've seen a particular film, and whether they feel they need a couple of viewings at least before something is cemented into hallowed list.

Similarly I wondered about so-called 'one-timers', films that had a massive impact on you when you watched them but that you had no real desire to revisit.

A lot of my favs are 1 time watches, but usually they are films that I would like to watch again. Except maybe Salo...  ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 07, 2014, 11:54:49 PM
I'm seriously considering making my top 100 be films that I have seen at least twice.  Unfortunately, that would kick out some of my favs, but it could make me disciplined enough to watch more of my top films (for next time).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 08, 2014, 12:21:28 AM
I'm presently making a mad dash to rewatch those in my top-100 that I've only seen once. Won't get them all but a sure way to watch a lot of things you like.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 08, 2014, 12:58:24 AM
Martin, I wonder if you considered The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes and Dying at Grace? They are both extraordinary films, but difficult to compare other films to because of their subject matter.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 08, 2014, 01:27:52 AM
Martin, I failed to say how inspiring and challenging your top 100 has been to me.  You introduced me to Tsai, and you keep pushing me to catch up with Ray... which I will, I promise.   Thanks.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 08, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
Top three are solid and in the right order. After that, order is much sketchier - on a different day and in a different mood, I'd arrange them differently. Newest additions are starred.



1.   It’s a Wonderful Life
(http://i60.tinypic.com/5jzm1k.jpg)

2.   Singin’ in the Rain
(http://i57.tinypic.com/ek1zq.jpg)

3.   Night at the Opera
(http://i62.tinypic.com/1585dvd.jpg)

4.   Brazil
(http://i57.tinypic.com/33lcwhg.jpg)

5.   L’intrus *
(http://i58.tinypic.com/6pnpcl.jpg)

6.   Alien
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ykl0yg.jpg)

7.   Arsenic and Old Lace
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2hfjnlg.jpg)

8.   Waiting for Guffman
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2v3iqh2.jpg)

9.   The Wind*
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2m3jvy0.jpg)

10.   An Angel at My Table
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2w1tkzn.jpg)

11.   County Hospital*
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2hqt44x.jpg)

12.   Tokyo Story
(http://i59.tinypic.com/34rsim0.jpg)

13.   Pather Panchali *
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2iuwbqp.jpg)

14.   Bringing Up Baby
(http://i61.tinypic.com/wccljs.jpg)

15.   Beau Travail *
(http://i57.tinypic.com/33wmmtu.jpg)

16.   Morvern Callar
(http://i58.tinypic.com/303eo08.jpg)

17.   Margaret
(http://i57.tinypic.com/29djkm8.jpg)

18.   Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2v16pna.jpg)

19.   Modern Times
(http://i62.tinypic.com/1562r8o.jpg)

20.   The Son
(http://i57.tinypic.com/9a7if9.jpg)

21.   My Neighbor Totoro
(http://i60.tinypic.com/308y5p1.jpg)

22.   Ratcatcher
(http://i59.tinypic.com/ix41gk.png)

23.   Meek’s Cutoff
(http://i59.tinypic.com/fnsjvc.jpg)

24.   Il Posto
(http://i60.tinypic.com/23v894.png)

25.   In a Lonely Place
(http://i62.tinypic.com/sll4qo.png)

26.   Groundhog Day
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2iaexw8.jpg)

27.   The Music Box*
(http://i60.tinypic.com/281vjq1.jpg)

28.   Ikiru
(http://i57.tinypic.com/5aj0hs.jpg)

29.   Back to the Future
(http://i57.tinypic.com/21eukxv.jpg)

30.   Jaws
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2ivd8c2.jpg)

31.   The Deep Blue Sea*
(http://i58.tinypic.com/5bkmv.jpg)

32.   A Girl’s Own Story*
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2res5c3.jpg)
 
33.   The Spirit of the Beehive
(http://i57.tinypic.com/a1qr29.jpg)

34.   The House of Mirth*
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2zr291c.png)

35.   Still Walking
(http://i58.tinypic.com/29dxmac.jpg)

36.   Sweetie
(http://i62.tinypic.com/24v8dc4.png)

37.   Fanny and Alexander
(http://i58.tinypic.com/iymz2p.jpg)

38.   Tree of Life
(http://i57.tinypic.com/15pmy3q.jpg)

39.   The Scarlet Letter *
(http://i60.tinypic.com/4id35k.jpg)

40.   Kes
(http://i62.tinypic.com/25p7hb5.jpg)

41.   Days of Heaven
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2i93y43.jpg)

42.   The Quiet Man*
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2lic07q.jpg)

43.   M. Hulot’s Holiday
(http://i59.tinypic.com/okwu52.jpg)

44.   Au Hasard Balthazar*
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2empncg.jpg)

45.    The Dead*
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ez7335.jpg)

46.   We Need to Talk About Kevin
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2moxh12.jpg)

47.   Rebecca
(http://i59.tinypic.com/1skt4k.jpg)

48.   Badlands
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2evuqfm.jpg)

49.   The Wind Will Carry Us
(http://i58.tinypic.com/o6m9n9.png)

50.   Grizzly Man
(http://i61.tinypic.com/zvqufc.jpg)

51.   Cleo from 5 to 7
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2dhfv9s.png)

52.   Rashomon
(http://i61.tinypic.com/jr5yyw.jpg)

53.   A Canterbury Tale
(http://i61.tinypic.com/34q770h.jpg)

54.   The 400 Blows
(http://i57.tinypic.com/106zkat.jpg)

55.   The Loved One*
(http://i57.tinypic.com/am37mp.jpg)

56.   35 Shots of Rum
(http://i62.tinypic.com/a40ahl.jpg)

57.   Rear Window
(http://i60.tinypic.com/14c3zud.jpg)

58.   The Band Wagon*
(http://i59.tinypic.com/fyg3e9.png)

59.   In the Cut
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2a9pqnq.png)

60.   Secrets and Lies
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2w7l7xd.jpg)

61.   The Last Picture Show*
(http://i60.tinypic.com/124va07.png)

62.   The Yards*
(http://i58.tinypic.com/eprog.png)

63.   Poetry*
(http://i60.tinypic.com/15g2ys0.jpg)

64.   A Zed and Two Noughts
(http://i57.tinypic.com/4tle7o.jpg)

65.   Secret Sunshine
(http://i57.tinypic.com/34tes6u.jpg)

66.   Topsy-Turvy
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2w4bvic.jpg)

67.   Written on the Wind
(http://i59.tinypic.com/27zhf20.jpg)

68.   Peeping Tom
(http://i57.tinypic.com/jtnhw0.jpg)

69.   The Double Life of Veronique
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2hn3o8o.jpg)

70.   The Kid
(http://i60.tinypic.com/hun0ra.jpg)

71.   The School of Rock
(http://i59.tinypic.com/293ewxj.png)

72.   Little Dieter Needs to Fly
(http://i59.tinypic.com/iwqaoj.jpg)

73.   Flight of the Red Balloon
(http://i58.tinypic.com/msznlg.jpg)

74.   Volver
(http://i58.tinypic.com/3535lx3.jpg)

75.   Shaun of the Dead
(http://i61.tinypic.com/e15ct4.jpg)

76.   Birth *
(http://i57.tinypic.com/mhbt40.jpg)

77.   Le Samourai
(http://i60.tinypic.com/24mtf7l.png)

78.   Tampopo
 (http://i61.tinypic.com/2dsyzm.jpg)

79.   Harvey
(http://i59.tinypic.com/fdc0h4.png)

80.   Harlan County, U.S.A.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/9jjhc0.png)

81.   Picnic at Hanging Rock
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2cohgg5.jpg)

82.   Frankenstein
(http://i60.tinypic.com/29p7vro.jpg)

83.   Mary Poppins
(http://i58.tinypic.com/4j2874.jpg)

84.   The General
(http://i60.tinypic.com/11lsbqv.jpg)

85.   Winter Light
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2rco746.jpg)

86.   Wizard of Oz
(http://i59.tinypic.com/5y7nnp.jpg)

87.   The Princess Bride
(http://i57.tinypic.com/28l6x41.jpg)

88.   Empire Strikes Back
(http://i58.tinypic.com/oqwtnd.jpg)

89.   In the Mood for Love
(http://i57.tinypic.com/nf1pwj.jpg)

90.   Crimes and Misdemeanors
(http://i62.tinypic.com/28k7jmo.jpg)

91.   A Mighty Wind
(http://i58.tinypic.com/1zf34uu.jpg)

92.   The Wicker Man *
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2qx9wu0.jpg)

93.   I Was Born But . . . *
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2vdjjfa.jpg)

94.   Moonrise Kingdom
(http://i61.tinypic.com/dzyrrp.jpg)

95.   The Last Days of Disco *
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2m2ja7d.jpg)

96.   Like Someone in Love*
(http://i60.tinypic.com/29yi0ap.jpg)

97.   The Loneliness of the Long-distance Runner
(http://i61.tinypic.com/33jlmb9.jpg)

98.   Airplane!
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2vc7sy8.png)

99.   Solyaris
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2lmqel1.jpg)

100.   The Jerk
(http://i61.tinypic.com/ayodx5.jpg)


Funny how choosing a top 100 can go. I surprised myself by some of my choices - I had Under the Skin on the list, but found I wanted to switch it out for Birth at the last moment. Same for Certified Copy- it was on the list and then I switched it out for Like Someone in Love. Those switch outs felt right - but I'm not really sure why. It's all very subjective, isn't it? :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: The Deer Hunter on August 08, 2014, 02:55:58 AM
You had me at #1.



I love this cap.

(http://i60.tinypic.com/11lsbqv.jpg)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Verite on August 08, 2014, 03:07:26 AM
5.   L’intrus *
(http://i58.tinypic.com/6pnpcl.jpg)

Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  *Gives you a hug*  And Davies  8)


5   Linda Linda Linda (2005, Nobuhiro Yamashita)

Looks like your list is the one that has the most titles in common with mine  8)


Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 08, 2014, 03:45:04 AM
You had me at #1.
Yay! :)

I love this cap.
Keaton has one of the greatest faces ever, doesn't he?


5.   L’intrus *
Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  *Gives you a hug*  And Davies  8)
L'intrus - best discovery in the last couple of years! So good! 

Re: Davies - And I still haven't seen The Long Day Closes or Distant Voices, Still Lives!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: goodguy on August 08, 2014, 07:13:19 AM
@oneaprilday: Only 4x Campion? You showed restraint. (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9025.msg738672#msg738672)  ;) Also love the 3x Ramsay and Denis, even if I don't yet share the enthusiasm for L'intrus. Will take a closer look at the list when I have more time.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sandy on August 08, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
How beautiful your list is, OAD! There are so many I want to see! Your #1 is perfect. Well, so is your #2. :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: sdb_1970 on August 08, 2014, 09:49:37 AM
OAD:

1. Rebecca and Rear Window, but no Vertigo ... Love it ;)

2. Birth and The Yards ... Wow, you've been having much better luck with recent watches than me.

3. Your screencap makes The Wicker Man look positively fun!

4.  Screencaps to We Need to Talk About Kevin and In the Mood for Love look earily similar?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 08, 2014, 10:44:40 AM
I'm interested to know how much people take into account the amount of times they've seen a particular film, and whether they feel they need a couple of viewings at least before something is cemented into hallowed list.

Similarly I wondered about so-called 'one-timers', films that had a massive impact on you when you watched them but that you had no real desire to revisit.

I prefer not to have films on my list that I haven't seen at least twice, but there are always one or two (this time, Rat-Trap and As I Was Moving Ahead).  I took off Satantango because it had been on the list too long without a second viewing.  I have a desire to revisit it, so I wouldn't call it a "one-timer".  I wouldn't put a movie on my list that I had no desire to see again.


I feel like I know your list almost as well as I know my own. Always a delight to pour through. The highest ranked ones I hadn't seen were Turin Horse and Visage. Now Visage is replaced by As I Was Moving Ahead... Rat-Trap is the only other title in your 100 for me to watch when I'm ready.

Since you know my list so well, were any of the changes surprising to you?


Martin, I wonder if you considered The Act of Seeing With One's Own Eyes and Dying at Grace? They are both extraordinary films, but difficult to compare other films to because of their subject matter.

I never consider shorts for my top 100.  An arbitrary decision, but one that helps me narrow things down.  I should probably do a top 100 shorts list some day, but it'd be very Brakhage-heavy.

As for Dying at Grace, that's probably what Harpo refers to as a "one-timer".  Fine for my 101-250, but not the top 100.


Martin, I failed to say how inspiring and challenging your top 100 has been to me.  You introduced me to Tsai, and you keep pushing me to catch up with Ray... which I will, I promise.   Thanks.

Thanks, oldkid!  I'm disappointed that Multnomah County Library hasn't added the Criterion releases of The Big City and Charulata to their collection.  They do have The Music Room, though.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 08, 2014, 10:47:14 AM
oad-- I love how your choices are more about the poetry of humanity, and not mostly focused on plot or thrills:

The Son
Poetry
There's Something Wrong With Kevin
It's a wonderful Life
Morvern Callar
Margaret
Sunrise

Near the top of your list are more solid entertainments, but as I drift down there is more that communicates something unique about the human condition.  I love that.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 08, 2014, 10:56:38 AM
1.   It’s a Wonderful Life
2.   Singin’ in the Rain
4.   Brazil
6.   Alien
8.   Waiting for Guffman
10.   An Angel at My Table
13.   Pather Panchali *
20.   The Son
21.   My Neighbor Totoro
24.   Il Posto
25.   In a Lonely Place
28.   Ikiru
33.   The Spirit of the Beehive
35.   Still Walking
37.   Fanny and Alexander
38.   Tree of Life
39.   The Scarlet Letter *
40.   Kes
41.   Days of Heaven
43.   M. Hulot’s Holiday
44.   Au Hasard Balthazar*
45.    The Dead*
48.   Badlands
49.   The Wind Will Carry Us
50.   Grizzly Man
52.   Rashomon
53.   A Canterbury Tale
54.   The 400 Blows
57.   Rear Window
60.   Secrets and Lies
64.   A Zed and Two Noughts
67.   Written on the Wind
69.   The Double Life of Veronique
73.   Flight of the Red Balloon
74.   Volver
77.   Le Samourai
78.   Tampopo
80.   Harlan County, U.S.A.
81.   Picnic at Hanging Rock
85.   Winter Light
86.   Wizard of Oz
88.   Empire Strikes Back
90.   Crimes and Misdemeanors
92.   The Wicker Man *
94.   Moonrise Kingdom
98.   Airplane!

So many great things!  Lovely list, oad!

Looks like your list is the one that has the most titles in common with mine  8)

It has always been the case, I think.  Will you be posting an updated list this year?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: verbALs on August 08, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
oad-- I love how your choices are more about the poetry of humanity, and not mostly focused on plot or thrills:

The Son
Poetry
There's Something Wrong With Kevin
It's a wonderful Life
Morvern Callar
Margaret
Sunrise

Near the top of your list are more solid entertainments, but as I drift down there is more that communicates something unique about the human condition.  I love that.

Can we try and nail these ideas that "plot" and "thrills" are somehow inimical to the "poetry of humanity"? Can we tie the idea up in a sack and throw it in the river? After many years of concentrating on story through reviewing and discussing films, hasn't a deeper understanding of the value of plotting and genre framing been uncovered?

One way or another a character's humanity is stimulated by some action in a story. Whatever that action is (explosion, rape, headache, unfair word, doesn't matter). So staring unblinkingly at the action itself is a surface reaction. Aren't we all looking at the way character's respond to stimuli of all sorts, so that deeper characteristics and personality are revealed. So solid entertainment is as likely to reveal that which communicates something deeper about the human condition. Firework displays are lovely but the look of wonder on a child's face is that much more wonderful. So don't blame the fact that it was a fireworks display that caused the reaction on the child's face, for being base entertainment, when it can cause such a wonderful reaction.

If you want to stop in your understanding of storytelling at the fence marked "entertainments are shallow" that's up to you. You think you will learn something about the baser desires of men from watching them look at a sunset? Which type of stories reveal these type of personalities? The value of "men of violence" tales aren't to watch the men be violent but to show how experience allows them to deal with the trauma ordinary people could not handle. Again, are you watching the explosion or are you looking at the reaction of the man who has to escape the explosion? No not every action film is going after these deeper meanings just like a lot of art house films have no clue how to dig deeper (it isn't an equation art house equals deeper meaning; there rare lots of deficient art house films, aren't there). Personally, finding those action films that do reveal deeper truths is what keeps me watching them. How does Atticus Finch deal with the real world threat of Max Cady? There's a film about that.

I appreciate the way you worded that oldkid. It left me all sorts of room to drive straight through that argument. 
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 08, 2014, 12:00:53 PM
@oneaprilday: Only 4x Campion? You showed restraint. (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9025.msg738672#msg738672)  ;) Also love the 3x Ramsay and Denis, even if I don't yet share the enthusiasm for L'intrus. Will take a closer look at the list when I have more time.
Decided restraint. :D Wish I could fit every Campion in the list! Ramsay and Denis - I realized I had to put all three Ramsay features on there, and when I catch up with more Denis, I wonder what will happen . . . ??


How beautiful your list is, OAD! There are so many I want to see! Your #1 is perfect. Well, so is your #2. :)
Thank-you, Sandy. :) I can't imagine my #1 - or #2 - ever leaving that spot - they're too embedded in my psyche and my sense of self, I think, to leave.


OAD:
1. Rebecca and Rear Window, but no Vertigo ... Love it ;)
2. Birth and The Yards ... Wow, you've been having much better luck with recent watches than me.
3. Your screencap makes The Wicker Man look positively fun!
4.  Screencaps to We Need to Talk About Kevin and In the Mood for Love look earily similar?
I had Vertigo on there for a bit but . . . I just couldn't do it. It's marvelous, but there are others I just love more - and Rear Window and Rebecca felt right somehow. It links back to seeing them when I was young, I think. Vertigo was a later experience. * Yes! Hurrah for unexpectedly good recent watches! * I think the Wicker Man is sort of fun - in an unsettling way. Seeing it on the big screen in this past year was an awesome experience. * Interesting note about WNtTAK and ItMfL - they do!


oad-- I love how your choices are more about the poetry of humanity, and not mostly focused on plot or thrills:

The Son
Poetry
There's Something Wrong With Kevin
It's a wonderful Life
Morvern Callar
Margaret
Sunrise

Near the top of your list are more solid entertainments, but as I drift down there is more that communicates something unique about the human condition.  I love that.
Thanks, oldkid :) And I like your way of describing that. It's not that plot driven films aren't about our humanity - all film is, surely, at some level (I'm sure you agree) - but yes, many of my choices, you've made me realize, tend toward a more poetic, less-straightforward (plot-wise) approach. (Your alternate title here, "There's Something Wrong With Kevin," made me laugh, btw. :D Intentional re-wording or unconscious slip?)


So many great things!  Lovely list, oad!
Thanks, Martin!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 08, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
I feel like I know your list almost as well as I know my own. Always a delight to pour through. The highest ranked ones I hadn't seen were Turin Horse and Visage. Now Visage is replaced by As I Was Moving Ahead... Rat-Trap is the only other title in your 100 for me to watch when I'm ready.

Since you know my list so well, were any of the changes surprising to you?

Small surprises. An Angel rising into your Top 10. I had to look up your review for Rat-Trap. I continue to monitor Revenge of a Kabuki Actor, which I think was #1 when you first joined the boards. (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6317.msg509163#msg509163) Then there are the ones I keep expecting to fall out because they're not what you think of as MartinTeller cinema.

90   The Seventh Victim (1943, Mark Robson) - you would think there are better versions of this type of film. It fascinates you in an interesting way. Much like When Strangers Marry.
77   In the Loop (2009, Armando Iannucci)
41   Airplane! (1980, Jim Abrahams, David Zucker, Jerry Zucker)
33   Hausu a.k.a. House (1977, Nobuhiko Obayashi) - I think every time one of us watches this you feel more comfortable having such a bizarre experience on your list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 08, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
I'm overdue for a rewatch of Kabuki Actor.  I'm overdue for a lot of rewatches... there are currently 51 movies I own (not including ones I don't care about in box sets) that I haven't seen in over 5 years.  12 of those are in my top 100 (and 3 were just dropped from my top 100).  Kabuki was indeed at #1 when I first joined... I had given it an enthusiastic score of 100 on Criticker, and I made my first list here by just looking at my Criticker scores.  Really didn't think about the order much at all.

Airplane! ain't going anywhere.  That's a permanent fixture.  The other three... yeah, I could see those potentially dropping off one day. 
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 08, 2014, 03:54:54 PM
6   Scenes From a Marriage (1973, Ingmar Bergman)

7   Scenes From a Marriage (1973, Ingmar Bergman)

Sign of a happier man? :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 08, 2014, 04:00:15 PM
You know, maybe.  I mean, it was bumped to make room for Linda Linda Linda, but I could see SFaM slipping down my list now that I'm in a much healthier relationship.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 08, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
17.   Margaret

34.   The House of Mirth*

Nice. :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 08, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
Nice. :)
:) 
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: roujin on August 08, 2014, 06:51:37 PM
Great list. Lot of surprising additions (The Yards!) and lots of stuff I need to watch (Campion and others).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 08, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
Great list. Lot of surprising additions (The Yards!) and lots of stuff I need to watch (Campion and others).
Thanks! I think it was your love for The Yards - and my recent experience with The Immigrant - that pushed me into seeing it finally. So glad I did!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 08, 2014, 07:53:34 PM

oad-- I love how your choices are more about the poetry of humanity, and not mostly focused on plot or thrills:

The Son
Poetry
There's Something Wrong With Kevin
It's a wonderful Life
Morvern Callar
Margaret
Sunrise

Near the top of your list are more solid entertainments, but as I drift down there is more that communicates something unique about the human condition.  I love that.
Thanks, oldkid :) And I like your way of describing that. It's not that plot driven films aren't about our humanity - all film is, surely, at some level (I'm sure you agree) - but yes, many of my choices, you've made me realize, tend toward a more poetic, less-straightforward (plot-wise) approach. (Your alternate title here, "There's Something Wrong With Kevin," made me laugh, btw. :D Intentional re-wording or unconscious slip?)

Yes, exactly.  I just happened to notice that you had a number of these alternatively-plotted films that insist upon us discovering about the characters that we otherwise could have ignored.

And it was part slip and part realization it was wrong, but being too lazy to look it up.  It's good to be laughed at once in a while.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 09, 2014, 12:58:10 AM
Yes, exactly.  I just happened to notice that you had a number of these alternatively-plotted films that insist upon us discovering about the characters that we otherwise could have ignored.

And it was part slip and part realization it was wrong, but being too lazy to look it up.  It's good to be laughed at once in a while.
Yes - I really that way of putting it.

Aw, I wasn't laughing at you, just at the appropriateness of the guessed at title. :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Verite on August 09, 2014, 02:59:41 AM
Will you be posting an updated list this year?

For sure.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 16, 2014, 01:49:43 PM
I presently have received ballots from the following people:

Antares
smirnoff
sdb_1970
MartinTeller
1SO
roujin
GothamCity151
Totoro
tinyholidays
Strong Opinions
Sam the Cinema Snob
Sandy
Bondo
oneaprilday
JakeIsntFake
oldkid
The Deer Hunter

Let me know if you think you've submitted and are not on the list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 16, 2014, 01:52:51 PM
Too few, I want 5 times that!  :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 16, 2014, 01:59:39 PM
Well, a week out from deadline...I'm sure there will be a deluge at that point.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 16, 2014, 09:34:34 PM
Martin, I just noticed another absent title. You used to have the complete Calcutta trilogy on the list. Now you've removed Pratidwandi. I know it's splitting hairs since you kept Devi, which at one point you regarded as slightly less good. Any plans to revisit Pratidwandi in the near future?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 16, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
Submitted my list today. Same as the one I posted back in May. Click on the quote below to see it.

It's been two years. Time for a new list. Also, if you want to see what I did for pictures this year, go over to my site (http://cinemasights.com/?p=13706).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 17, 2014, 01:14:51 AM
Martin, I just noticed another absent title. You used to have the complete Calcutta trilogy on the list. Now you've removed Pratidwandi. I know it's splitting hairs since you kept Devi, which at one point you regarded as slightly less good. Any plans to revisit Pratidwandi in the near future?

Not for a while.  Waiting to see if Criterion has any plans for it.  They reportedly intend to release 16 Ray films all told, so I'm guessing/hoping the entire Calcutta trilogy will be part of that.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Harpo Speaks on August 18, 2014, 02:22:38 AM
Revisiting a few things is proving useful, just trying to prioritise the films that are borderline or I'm unsure of as the deadline approaches. Hit the road, The Road. It's also where I get frustrated that I can't rewatch something when I realise I don't own it. And is the fact that I haven't yet purchased a particular film indicative of its standing in my mind? No in some cases, but in others, maybe.

So many films, so little time. I'd say about 60 are locked in (though not into fixed positions), but from there onwards things are a bit more fluid.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on August 18, 2014, 03:25:48 AM
Do they actually have to be in order or can maybe do a top 20 and the rest not in any particular order?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 18, 2014, 08:09:03 AM
Do they actually have to be in order or can maybe do a top 20 and the rest not in any particular order?

Well, they don't HAVE to be in order, though for my purposes I would probably act like they are, so some would be weighted more strongly even though they are considered equal.

In theory the way I could handle that type of list is assign the first 20 the normal points and then give the remainder the average point value of the remaining slots so your list has the same weight (in this case it would be 5.25 points). However, I'm not sure I'm fully comfortable with that approach as it is fair in one sense but could open the door to distributional gaming if established as a precedent.

Anyway, I don't want the whole ranking thing to put anyone off participating so I'm open to considering this if there are no objections.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 18, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
I know that for my list, I'd prefer the first 30 to have the regular weight and then average out the rest.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on August 18, 2014, 11:56:29 AM
I know that for my list, I'd prefer the first 30 to have the regular weight and then average out the rest.
I don't know if 30 is my number, have to finish my list first, but I'd like something like this as well.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on August 18, 2014, 12:38:44 PM
I'll happily order everybody's list for them.  8)

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 18, 2014, 12:59:41 PM
I'm inclined to let you, just to see how it turns out.

The pixote method.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: ses on August 20, 2014, 04:06:14 PM
Love your list, OAD!  So glad to see so many new additions from our little discussion group (which is way overdue, btw).  A lot of overlap with my impending list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on August 20, 2014, 06:03:18 PM
After 4 or 5 years saying I will put a list together, starting to get close.  Think it be an actual top 100, would have to work a lot more on it but at least it will be 100 films I like a lot and can work to modify it over time from there
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 20, 2014, 10:00:14 PM
That's the spirit! :)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 20, 2014, 10:50:46 PM
Love your list, OAD!  So glad to see so many new additions from our little discussion group (which is way overdue, btw).  A lot of overlap with my impending list.
Thanks! And yes, I was thinking I was grateful for our discussion group since it's led me to watch films I've loved. :)  (Yes! We must get together again!) Can't wait to see your list.


at least it will be 100 films I like a lot and can work to modify it over time from there
I got over the paralysis of making a top 100 with a similar thought. :) Looking forward to your list, jdc!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 21, 2014, 08:27:27 AM
Two more days for ballots!

I presently have received ballots from the following people:

Antares
smirnoff
sdb_1970
MartinTeller
1SO
roujin
GothamCity151
Totoro
tinyholidays
Strong Opinions
Sam the Cinema Snob
Sandy
Bondo
oneaprilday
JakeIsntFake
oldkid
The Deer Hunter
Corndog
Philip918
JeffreySchroek
Dave the Necrobumper
Beavermoose
Harpo Speaks
sdedalus
jascook
Junior
goodguy
ses
jswysin
jdc (Taken from this thread)
PeacefulAnarchy (taken from Top 100 thread)
Verite
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: goodguy on August 21, 2014, 08:42:19 AM
Two more days for ballots!

Shouldn't that be three? Can you give an exact deadline including timezone?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 21, 2014, 10:04:10 AM
It is three.  Deadline is Saturday night.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 21, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Saturday is two days away! Let's say 11:59pm Pacific Daylight Time on Saturday for clarity. Gives everyone all of Saturday.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on August 21, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
Saturday is two days away! Let's say 11:59pm Pacific Daylight Time on Saturday for clarity. Gives everyone all of Saturday.

poor Hawaiians
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 21, 2014, 10:50:14 AM
I'm not aware of any Hawaiians or Alaskans on the forum. By all means THEY can take an extra two hours. :D
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 21, 2014, 11:04:48 AM
If you lived on the little Diomede island, you have a full 24 hours more to work on your top 100 than if you lived in the big Diomede Island.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-VbVIvZEA4vo/UxCe-U-44pI/AAAAAAAAwak/_rYiPHQKhuY/diomede-island-map2%25255B3%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 21, 2014, 11:17:18 AM
That would be true if we had a rolling deadline based on local times, not if we fix a deadline within a single time zone. Time zones are apparently (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/5970767/case-against-time-zones) bad.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on August 21, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
*looks for extension request form*
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on August 22, 2014, 12:25:14 AM
List Revised 31 July 2016.  For the most part, not a lot of moves in Rankings as I don't really know how to rank them after 20.

New Additions:
Birdman - 21
Moonrise Kingdom - 30 but probably should be higher
Before Midnight - 81
The Witch - 87
Black Swan -88
The World of Kanako - 90
The Weatherman - 91 (somebody should watch it)
The Babadook - 96
Act of Killing -97
Whiplash -98

Films dropped to make room:
A Christmas Story
City of Life and Death
Departures
Downfall
Kick Ass
The Yellow Sea
Lawarane of Arabia
The Last of the Mohicans
The Way of the Gun
The Wolf of Wallstreet

A few notable ranking changes:
The New World and Take Shelter moves to Top 10





1   Barton Fink
2   Gummo
3   The Squid and the Whale
4   Adaptation
5   Requiem for a Dream
6   Memories of Murder
7   No Country for Old Men
8   The New World
9   A Serious Man
10   Take Shelter
11   In Bruges
12   The Big Lebowski
13   Fargo
14   Miller's Crossing
15   Magnolia
16   Happiness
17   Old Boy
18   Reservoir Dogs
19   Snatch
20   Stop Making Sense
21   Birdman
22   A Clockwork Orange
23   American Pyscho
24   Antichrist
25   Blue Velvet
26   One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
27   Dead Man
28   There Will be Blood
29   Margaret
30   Moonrise Kingdom
31   Das Boot
32   Naked Lunch
33   Baraka
34   Battle Royal
35   Being John Malkovich
36   Shaolin Soccer
37   2001: A Space Odyssey
38   Dr Stranglove
39   Best in Show
40   Boogie Nights
41   Donnie Darko
42   Full Metal Jacket
43   Funny Games (1997)
44   GoodFellas
45   Freaks
46   Jaws
47   External Sunshine of a Spotless Mind
48   Rise of the Planet of the Apes
49   Fight Club
50   Carnal Knowledge
51   Alien
52   Let the Right One In
53   Thirst
54   The Godfather
55   The Shining
56   Pulp Fiction
57   Deep Water
58   Dear Zachary
59   Glengerry Glenross
60   Apocalypse Now
61   Time
62   The Abyss
63   Wonderboys
64   Kids
65   Harold and Maude
66   Infernal Affairs
67   Chinatown
68   Lock, Stock, Two Smoking Barrels
69   Memento
70   Drive
71   We Need to Talk about Kevin
72   Ordinary People
73   Little Children
74   Women in the Dunes
75   Audition
76   This is Spinal Tap
77   Shallow Grave
78   Rashomon
79   Rushmore
80   Mother
81   Before Midnight
82   The Player
83   Synecdoche, New York
84   The White Ribbon
85   The Good, the Bad, the Weird
86   Benny's Video
87   The Witch
88   Black Swan
89   Company of Men
90   The World of Kanoko
91   The Weatherman
92   Groundhog Day
93   The Decendants
94   Paths of Glory
95   Die Hard
96   The Babadook
97   Act of Killing
98   Whiplash
99   A History of Violence
100   Samsara
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 22, 2014, 12:54:54 AM
I'm glad to see Glengarry Glen Ross getting so much love.  I nearly put it on my own list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 22, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Love seeing The New World.

Also, what is Burton Fink? A Tim Burton biopic? ???
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Harpo Speaks on August 22, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Boggie Nights should be the name of the Swamp Thing adaptation.

Great to see Barton Fink and Memories of Murder so high.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Monty on August 22, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
Also, what is Burton Fink? A Tim Burton biopic? ???

Burton Fink!, I can't stop laughing at that :) I would pay good money to see that film.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on August 22, 2014, 06:42:21 PM
Love seeing The New World.

Also, what is Burton Fink? A Tim Burton biopic? ???

Don't even get my top film spelled correctly :-[

The New World probably should be higher, I have taken the Blu-ray back out waiting next to the player for my next chance to watch again
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 23, 2014, 01:12:21 AM
Just under 25 hours to deadline. If there are ballots posted in this thread that were not submitted by PM, I will assume they are a final ballot as of the deadline.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 24, 2014, 09:20:17 AM
We ended up receiving 34 ballots this year. While I get to work consolidating all the duplicates for formatting and such, here's the list you could have gotten if more people voted for the "Weighted-lottery-of-mega-fun."

Weighted-lottery-of-mega-fun Top 100
1.   Schindler’s List (Steven Spielberg, 1993)
2.   M (Fritz Lang, 1931)
3.   In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-Wai, 2000)
4.   The Fly (David Cronenberg, 1986)
5.   Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
6.   Life of Brian (Terry Jones, 1979)
7.   The Last Days of Disco (Whit Stilman, 1998)
8.   How Green Was My Valley (John Ford, 1941)
9.   Buffalo ‘66 (Vincent Gallo, 1998)
10.   Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Hayao Miyazaki, 1984)
11.   Pride & Prejudice (Joe Wright, 2005)
12.   Boogie Nights (Paul Thomas Anderson, 1997)
13.   12 Angry Men (Sidney Lumet, 1957)
14.   Summer Stock (Charles Walters, 1950)
15.   The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (John Ford, 1962)
16.   Hard Core Logo (Bruce McDonald, 1996)
17.   Seconds (John Frankenheimer, 1966)
18.   The Night Porter (Liliana Cavani, 1974)
19.   Frontier(s) (Xavier Gens, 2007)
20.   Japanese Girls at the Harbor (Hiroshi Shimizu, 1933)
21.   House (Nobuhiko Obayashi, 1977)
22.   The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
23.   Shallow Grave (Danny Boyle, 1994)
24.   Winter Light (Ingmar Bergman, 1962)
25.   I Fidanzati (1963, Ermanno Olmi)
26.   Wagon Master (John Ford, 1950)
27.   Snatch (Guy Ritchie, 2000)
28.   Top Hat (Mark Sandrich, 1935)
29.   Red Beard (Akira Kurosawa, 1965)
30.   The Day the Earth Stood Still (Robert Wise, 1951)
31.   The Public Woman (Andrzej Zulawski, 1984)
32.   Good Will Hunting (Gus Van Sant, 1997)
33.   Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
34.   Scrooged (Richard Donner, 1988)
35.   Rashomon (Akira Kurosawa, 1950)
36.   The Burglar (Paul Wendkos, 1957)
37.   Poltergeist (Tobe Hooper, 1982)
38.   Ostrov (Pavel Lungin, 2006)
39.   Limelight (Charles Chaplin, 1952)
40.   My Neighbor Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988)
41.   Miami Vice (Michael Mann, 2006)
42.   The Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
43.   Into the Wild (Sean Penn, 2007)
44.   8 ½ (Federico Fellini, 1963)
45.   Frankenstein (James Whale, 1931)
46.   Ordet (Carl Th Dreyer, 1955)
47.   Halloween (John Carpenter, 1978)
48.   Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968)
49.   Assault on Precinct 13 (John Carpenter, 1976)
50.   World on a Wire (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1973)
51.   Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Werner Herzog, 1972)
52.   Deep Water (Jerry Rothwell and Louise Osmond, 2006)
53.   Gangs Of New York (Martin Scorsese, 2002)
54.   Time (Ki-Duk Kim, 2006)
55.   Doubt (John Patrick Shanley, 2008)
56.   Shaun of the Dead ( Edgar Wright, 2004)
57.   Celeste (Valerie Gaudissart, 2005)
58.   Groundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993)
59.   The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
60.   Gosford Park (Robert Altman, 2001)
61.   In the Heat of the Night (Norman Jewison, 1967)
62.   Forrest Gump (Robert Zemeckis, 1994)
63.   Vagabond (Agnes Varda, 1985)
64.   Chasing Amy (Kevin Smith, 1997)
65.   Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, 1987)
66.   My Only Sunshine (Reha Erdem, 2008)
67.   Tres Colours: White (Krzysztof Kieslowski, 1994)
68.   The Exorcist (William Friedkin, 1973)
69.   Darkness Light Darkness (Jan Svankmajer, 1990)
70.   No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
71.   La Strada (Federico Fellini, 1956)
72.   The Castaways of Turtle Island (Jacques Rozier, 1976)
73.   A Time for Burning (Barbara Connell and Bill Jersey, 1967)
74.   The Usual Suspects (Bryan Singer, 1995)
75.   The Wizard of Oz (Victor Fleming, 1939)
76.   American Movie (Chris Smith, 1999)
77.   The Castle (Rob Stitch, 1997)
78.   The Blair Witch Project (Eduardo Sanchez and Daniel Myrick, 1999)
79.   The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (Jacques Demy, 1964)
80.   Do the Right Thing (Spike Lee, 1989)
81.   The Matrix (The Wachowskis, 1999)
82.   Return to Me (Bonnie Hunt, 2000)
83.   Terminator (James Cameron, 1986)
84.   Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino, 1994)
85.   Oldboy (Chan-Wook Park, 2003)
86.   Lilo & Stitch (Dean DeBlois and Chris Sanders, 2002)
87.   Robocop (Paul Verhoeven, 1987)
88.   Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958)
89.   12 Years A Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
90.   The Bridge on the River Kwai (David Lean, 1957)
91.   Mulholland Dr (David Lynch, 2001)
92.   Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (Eric Radomski and Bruce Timm, 1993)
93.   The Prestige (Christopher Nolan, 2006)
94.   Rat-Trap (Adoor Gopalakrishnan, 1982)
95.   A Christmas Story (Bob Clark, 1983)
96.   Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
97.   Ghost World (Terry Zwigoff, 2001)
98.   Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood, 1992)
99.   Touch of Evil (Orson Wells, 1958)
100.   Never Let Me Go (Mark Romanek, 2010)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 24, 2014, 09:35:19 AM
Much as I love most of the films on this list, the false rankings makes me glad we didn't go this route.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 24, 2014, 10:30:45 AM
What a crazy list-- nothing like what we've seen before.  And so many films I've never seen... a few I've not heard of (which is odd).  It would be inspirational, I suppose, but not really representational. 

Thanks for putting that together, though, Bondo.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: roujin on August 24, 2014, 10:42:20 AM
Would be happy with this list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on August 24, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
Well, it's representational, just a different kind of representation.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 24, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
Who submitted a Top 100 with Frontier(s) (Xavier Gens, 2007)? I would like to read that review.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 24, 2014, 12:54:34 PM
Funny that from my list, both Rat-Trap and The Burglar are on there.  The former no one else has seen, and the latter no one else likes.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on August 24, 2014, 03:55:33 PM
Funny that from my list, both Rat-Trap and The Burglar are on there.  The former no one else has seen, and the latter no one else likes.

I liked (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9536.msg737880;topicseen#msg737880) The Burglar. Just not as much.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Strong Opinions on August 25, 2014, 08:40:00 AM
Who submitted a Top 100 with Frontier(s) (Xavier Gens, 2007)? I would like to read that review.

I had it at 85. I haven't seen it in two years or so. I'd need to sit with it again before reviewing. I will say that I greatly appreciate the New French Extremity aesthetic, and this film in particular, a lot. It's the French take on Texas Chainsaw Massacre's poverty, isolationism and degradation of the family, mixed with some of the anxieties plaguing many of the French horror films of the aughts (preoccupation with fetuses, civil unrest, invasion of the home/safe or neutral zone, etc.).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jbissell on August 25, 2014, 10:08:16 AM
Would be happy with this list.

Same. Assault on Precinct 13!

But still no CINECAST!ing' Pee-Wee!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 25, 2014, 11:27:31 AM
Any list with Buffalo '66 in the top 10 is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 25, 2014, 01:19:18 PM
Who submitted a Top 100 with Frontier(s) (Xavier Gens, 2007)? I would like to read that review.

I had it at 85. I haven't seen it in two years or so. I'd need to sit with it again before reviewing. I will say that I greatly appreciate the New French Extremity aesthetic, and this film in particular, a lot. It's the French take on Texas Chainsaw Massacre's poverty, isolationism and degradation of the family, mixed with some of the anxieties plaguing many of the French horror films of the aughts (preoccupation with fetuses, civil unrest, invasion of the home/safe or neutral zone, etc.).

I like the New French Extremity in theory, but found Frontier(s) to be the most bland film in that group (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=12452.msg749689#msg749689). Martyrs was the most original title, with some cheap thrills to be found in Inside. I never connected the films to what was happening in France at the time, though I always wondered if there was a connection. Perhaps the sub-genre has its roots in something like La Haine.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 26, 2014, 01:16:45 AM
I just need to whimper...ballot tabulation edition.

That moment when you realize you are now the only person voting for a film that once made the group's Top 100. :'(

Just have to finish tidying up films that start with The and I'll be able to hand off the results to the presentation committee.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 26, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
Results are in!  Thank you so much Bondo for your work!

Now to gather up all the data for the presentation!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 26, 2014, 11:32:50 AM
That moment when you realize you are now the only person voting for a film that once made the group's Top 100. :'(
Hope it's a Nolan film.  ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: sdb_1970 on August 26, 2014, 07:45:15 PM
That moment when you realize you are now the only person voting for a film that once made the group's Top 100. :'(
Hope it's a Nolan film.  ;D

Hope it's a Kiarostami film.  ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 26, 2014, 09:03:05 PM
Pretty sure a Kiarostami film has never made the top 100.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 26, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Certainly not a Bondo Top 100.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 27, 2014, 12:00:51 AM
It is a film that screams Bondo way more than any Nolan film ever could.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on August 27, 2014, 12:47:59 AM
It is a film that screams Bondo way more than any Nolan film ever could.

F—king Amal?

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 27, 2014, 01:13:11 AM
Pixote knows things.

So yeah, early Top 100 spoiler, CINECAST!ing Amal aka Show Me Love will not be making a return trip to the group Top 100. It ended in a 55-way tie for 532nd. You'll always have me, Scandinavian teenage lesbians.

I previously mentioned that there were 34 ballots. Additional stats are that these ballots included 3190 votes for 1448 unique films. No film featured on more than 50% of ballots.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on August 27, 2014, 01:17:19 AM
People would rather be different than be right.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Jared on August 27, 2014, 10:06:39 AM
It was on my list last time I submitted for this thing. Didn't get around to making a list this year sadly. Selling a house, having a toddler, fixing up a new house, going on vacation, and the Mariners playing the best they have in a decade.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Verite on August 27, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
You're definitely responsible for me finally catching up with Blue Collar.

8)  But sadly, it didn't make the cut this year.  New stuff pushed it out.

Ver, where's your list?

Getting stuff for the presentation will take some time, I'm afraid.

ver only promises, never delivers.

That's what my exes say about me.  ALL OF THEM.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 27, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
We ended up receiving 34 ballots this year. While I get to work consolidating all the duplicates for formatting and such, here's the list you could have gotten if more people voted for the "Weighted-lottery-of-mega-fun."

That was a fun read! Thanks for doing it!

Well, it's representational, just a different kind of representation.

Exactly. And just imagine the fun of revealing each film in a countdown! There'd be nothing else like it!

(http://i.imgur.com/NRDNOL9.jpg)

Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on August 27, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
57   Deep Water


Hi Bondo..

One correction.. was in such a hurry putting list together I type Open Water..

I really mean the documentary, Deep Water...

Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 28, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
Sorted.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: ses on August 28, 2014, 02:29:02 PM
Did I miss it?  Have we set a date for the announcement of the non-weighty list?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 28, 2014, 11:39:59 PM
Haven't set a date yet.

All I know is that this Sunday, 2pm PST we will have from 100-31 posted.  The top 30 time is yet to be determined.  Hmmm... let's have another poll.  (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=12860.0)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Corndog on August 29, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
Will this also be a chat announcement like we usually do?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 29, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
Yes, there will be a chat announcement. 

It looks like the final presentation won't be ready on Monday, so we will be having it on Thursday at 5pm PST.

Again, the initial countdown will be Sunday at 2pm PST.  See you all then!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 31, 2014, 03:44:54 PM
15 minutes to the top 100, Part I!

Chat simulcast!
Title: Re: The Filmspotter Forum Top 100 (2014 edition)
Post by: 1SO on August 31, 2014, 07:07:53 PM
So wonderful to see an updated list at last.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sandy on August 31, 2014, 08:02:04 PM
Great work guys! Sorry I missed the party.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 31, 2014, 09:10:28 PM
Didn't realize it was today that this was happening. Was busy rewatching the Three Colors Trilogy. (Woo, Blue made the list!)

Glad to see The New World edging out Tree of Life. I think in the long run, The New World will stand as the better film. Both are wonderful, though.

I call shenanigans on BttF over Die Hard on the list.

Didn't realize that many people loved Terminator.

Pleasantly shocked by how high A Serious Man is. Didn't realize we had that many lovers of the film around here.

I have to say, the ordering of this list is quite interesting and not what I would expect given the history of previous lists. Looks like a lot of the top 30 took quite a dive. I wonder if it's the influx of new members we've gotten into the past couple of years.

Makes me really curious about what is in the top 30. Hopefully, I'll remember to come to that countdown.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on August 31, 2014, 09:14:27 PM
I, too, am really intrigued by this list. I figured we had gotten artsier as a whole, but this list seems to suggest the opposite. Not that that's a bad thing, although the 3 or 4 at the bottom of 30 are the dorm roomiest dorm room movies (2 of which have made my list in this or previous years).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on August 31, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
I call shenanigans on BttF over Die Hard on the list.

Die Hard appeared on 12 ballots to BttF's 8, however, the 8 who put BttF were wronger and thus it placed higher.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on August 31, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
Great list. That Amadeus screenshot cracked me up. Such a cringe-inducing moment! :))
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on August 31, 2014, 10:27:36 PM
Great work guys! Sorry I missed the party.
Yes! Same. Should be able to make it Thursday.

I figured we had gotten artsier as a whole, but this list seems to suggest the opposite.
Just what I was thinking. Interesting.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 31, 2014, 10:46:54 PM
Great work guys! Sorry I missed the party.

I hope you'll be able to make it on Thursday-- 5pm PST! :)

(Woo, Blue made the list!)

Glad to see The New World edging out Tree of Life. I think in the long run, The New World will stand as the better film. Both are wonderful, though.

I call shenanigans on BttF over Die Hard on the list.

Didn't realize that many people loved Terminator.

Pleasantly shocked by how high A Serious Man is. Didn't realize we had that many lovers of the film around here.

I agree with all of these statements.  Especially about the shenanigans.  In chat, I tried to make up for this by numbering BTTF at 102, but no one noticed, because I still put it in the correct order.

Great list. That Amadeus screenshot cracked me up. Such a cringe-inducing moment! :))

So many great screenshots.  Great job, 1SO!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on August 31, 2014, 11:46:49 PM
I figured we had gotten artsier as a whole, but this list seems to suggest the opposite.

I had the same thought as well.  It feels like a more conventional list than previous years.  Although a bunch of my picks made it in, so maybe I shouldn't question it.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on September 01, 2014, 12:09:41 AM
I think the FS list is pretty conventional, but it has its own "personal charms":

The Conversation
Sweet Smell of Success
Barton Fink
Take Shelter
Night and Fog (VERY artsy pick)
Life of Brian
Paths of Glory
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on September 01, 2014, 01:08:46 AM
Fanny and Alexander, too. I assume that's not the last we'll see of Bergman.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on September 01, 2014, 10:19:17 AM
Night and Fog (VERY artsy pick)
Artsy seems like the wrong term here.

An interesting list so far, thanks for doing this guys.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on September 01, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
Night and Fog (VERY artsy pick)
Artsy seems like the wrong term here.

Why do you think so?  Because it is emotional?  I think the film is experimental, as well as being impactful.  And I think that the film isn't broadly seen, but is praised to the skies by the few who seek it out.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on September 01, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
I think it's probably a consequence of my finding the term artsy to be rather silly in the first place. As I understand it, "artsy" generally seems to be used for films with an affected and noticeable style, and while that applies to Resnais' fiction films I don't see it in Night and Fog, though it has been years since I've seen it so perhaps I'm not remembering it correctly. I don't see what not being broadly seen has to do with something being "artsy." If that's what you mean then use obscure, though I wouldn't call Night and Fog obscure within the context of a film forum.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Beavermoose on September 02, 2014, 06:12:25 AM
Can't wait for the rest of the list! Why didn't we do it all in one day???
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on September 02, 2014, 10:55:12 AM
So we could have a special treat for the top 30!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: JakeIsntFake on September 02, 2014, 11:18:57 AM
And for those who forgot, to try to remember this time.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on September 04, 2014, 10:59:24 PM
Here's #102-200 for your viewing pleasure:

102 Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfresson, 2008)
103 Wings of Desire (Wim Wenders, 1987)
104 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (Archers, 1943)
105 Magnolia (Paul Thomas Anderson,1999)
106 His Girl Friday (Howard Hawks, 1940)
107 Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
108 8 ½ (1963, Federico Fellini)
109 Harold and Maude (Hal Ashby, 1971)
110 This Is Spinal Tap (Rob Reiner, 1984)
111 Charade (Stanley Donen, 1963)
112 Persona (Ingmar Bergman, 1966)
113 Scenes From a Marriage (1973, Ingmar Bergman)
114 The Prestige (Christopher Nolan, 2006)
115 Glengarry Glen Ross (James Foley, 1992)
116 Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks, 1938)
117 Paris, Texas (Wim Wenders, 1984)
118 The Silence of the Lambs (Jonathon Demme, 1991)
119 Aliens (James Cameron, 1986)
120 Network (Sidney Lumet, 1976)
121 Schindler’s List (Steven Spielberg, 1993)
122 Donnie Darko (Richard Kelly, 2001)
123 The Thing [John Carpenter, 1982]
124 Nights of Cabiria (1957, Federico Fellini)
125 Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958)
126 Tokyo Story (Yasujiro Ozu, 1953)
127 The Graduate (Mike Nichols, 1967)
128 Last Year in Marienbad (Alain Resnais, 1961)
129 L.A. Confidential (Curtis Hanson  1997)
130 Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (Mel Stuart, 1971)
131 Le Samourai (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1967)
132 The Exorcist (1973)
133 Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
134 Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg, 1977)
135 Yojimbo (Akira Kurosawa, 1961)
136 The Truman Show (Peter Wier, 1998)
137 Beau travail (Claire Denis, 1999)
138 High and Low (Akira Kurosawa, 1963)
139 Before Sunrise (Richard Linklater, 1995)
140 Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
141 Once (John Carney, 2006)
142 The Sound of Music (Robert Wise, 1965)
143 Miller's Crossing (Joel Coen, 1990)
144 Drive (Nicolas Winding Refn, 2011)
145 Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1979)
146 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (Shane Black, 2005)
147 Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze, 1999)
148 The Shop Around the Corner (Ernst Lubitsch, 1940)
149 North by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)
150 Stop Making Sense (1984, Jonathan Demme)
151 (500) Days of Summer (Marc Webb, 2009)
152 The Incredibles (2004, Brad Bird)
153 An Angel at My Table (Jane Campion, 1990)
154 Dawn of the Dead (George A Romero, 1978)
155 Black Narcissus (Archers, 1947)
156 Heat (Michael Mann, 1995)
157 Whisper of the Heart (Yoshifumi Kondō, 1995)
158 Ghostbusters (Harold Ramis, 1984)
159 Bicycle Thieves (1948)
160 Forrest Gump (Robert Zemeckis, 1994)
161 Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)
162 Leon: The Professional (Luc Besson, 1994)
163 Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
164 Shadow of a Doubt (Alfred Hitchcock, 1943)
165 The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
166 Cool Hand Luke (Stuart Rosenberg, 1967)
167 Toy Story (John Lasseter, 1995)
168 City of God (2002, Fernando Meirelles, Kátia Lund)
169 Good Will Hunting (Gus Van Sant, 1997)
170 Mahanagar (Satyajit Ray, 1963)
171 Pee Wee’s Big Adventure (Tim Burton, 1985)
172 American Beauty (Sam Mendes, 1999)
173 The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
174 Shaun of the Dead [Edgar Wright, 2004]
175 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (Frank Capra, 1939)
176 Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
177 Pan’s Labyrinth (Guillermo del Toro, 2006)
178 The Rules of the Game (1939, Jean Renoir)
179 Eraserhead (David Lynch, 1977)
180 Hot Fuzz (Edgar Wright, 2007)
181 Army of Shadows (1969, Jean-Pierre Melville)
182 Time of the Gypsies (Emir Kusturica, 1988)
183 Jane Eyre (Cary Fukunaga, 2011)
184 Oldboy (Chan-wook Park  2003)
185 Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Werner Herzog, 1972)
186 WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
187 Blue Velvet  (David Lynch, 1986)
188 United 93 (Paul Greengrass, 2006)
189 Il Posto (Ermanno Olmi, 1961)
190 The Son (Jean-Pierre Dardenne, Luc Dardenne, 2002)
191  V for Vendetta (James McTeigue, 2005)
192 The Breakfast Club (John Hughes, 1985)
193 The Vanishing  (George Sluizer  1988)
194 Gummo (Harmony Korine, 1997)
195 Sherlock, Jr. (Buster Keaton, 1924)
196 Goodbye Mr. Chips (Sam Wood, 1939)
197 The Long Day Closes (1992, Terence Davies)
198 The Hole (1998, Ming-liang Tsai)
199 Lucky Star (Frank Borzage, 1929)
200 The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007, Andrew Dominik)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on September 04, 2014, 11:02:56 PM
Things I love from that list: Col Blimp, Quiet Lambs, Lucky Star, The Shop Around the Corner

Things I don't love from that list: Aliens and Network right next to each other, Oldboy.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on September 04, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
Here's some thoughts after looking at the list for a while:

-The list that introduced me to the idea of "great" film is the AFI list.  But the list that really embodied that, that I could really embrace and understand these films to be great for all the reasons that they are is the Filmspotting 100.  There is a common element to this list over the last six years that I've been examining it, and I realize this is the one that is the heart of my film watching experience, what I think about when I think about truly great films.  Other lists have bolts out of the blue, but this list, as much as I might disagree about some of the choices (Goodfellas, really?), is what I think about when I think of generally great films that could be agreed upon by a community.

-This is the first year that I have watched all of the top 100.  I have a certain amount of pride in that because I've been working on it.  There are a few that probably should have made the top 100 that I haven't seen yet (not a single Ray is in the top 100-- probably my fault for not having seen them yet), but my journey on the forum is such that I feel that I've "caught up" with the group.

-The second two hundred is, if anything, more interesting than the first.  Perhaps it's because there are some I haven't seen in the second hundred that I really want to, like The Hole.  But it seems to have more forum "charm" than the first hundred, which I suppose has to have the tried but true Citizen Kane, Godfather, Vertigo etc.

-The top fiveI still need to watch on the list are:
137 Beau travail (Claire Denis, 1999)
153 An Angel at My Table (Jane Campion, 1990)
170 Mahanagar (Satyajit Ray, 1963)
173 The Best Years of Our Lives (William Wyler, 1946)
185 Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Werner Herzog, 1972)
These films are now at the top of my list of shame and I will catch up with them this year.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on September 04, 2014, 11:32:08 PM
Seen everything in the top 200 except:

183 Jane Eyre (Cary Fukunaga, 2011)
196 Goodbye Mr. Chips (Sam Wood, 1939)


Did every film in the top 200 get at least 2 votes?  I see a few from my list that I didn't think got any other votes.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on September 04, 2014, 11:41:37 PM
Yes, every film in the 200 was at least on two ballots.  Time of the Gypsies, Jane Eyre, Gummo, the Hole, Lucky Star, and The Assassination of Jesse James was only on two ballots, but I think all the others are three or more.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jdc on September 05, 2014, 12:07:16 AM
...Gummo, ... only on two ballots, but I think all the others are three or more.

And I think correctly in the number 2 position on both if I recall:)

Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: The Deer Hunter on September 05, 2014, 12:25:23 AM
Good to see Once Upon A Time In The West getting some love at #5.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on September 05, 2014, 01:16:52 AM
I've seen 199/200. Like everyone else I need to bump Jane Eyre (Cary Fukunaga, 2011) higher up my Watchlist. (A Sandy/smirnoff cabal.) After that it's #230 Japanese Girls at the Harbor (roujin + sdedalus. All respect to your tastes, but I can wait on that one.) Then The Turn Horse, which I'm saving for a special day.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on September 05, 2014, 05:13:13 AM
I have seen 6 of the top 10,  :-[
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 05, 2014, 06:57:31 AM
Haven't seen:

137 Beau travail (Claire Denis, 1999)
153 An Angel at My Table (Jane Campion, 1990)
170 Mahanagar (Satyajit Ray, 1963)
182 Time of the Gypsies (Emir Kusturica, 1988)
183 Jane Eyre (Cary Fukunaga, 2011)
189 Il Posto (Ermanno Olmi, 1961)
194 Gummo (Harmony Korine, 1997)
196 Goodbye Mr. Chips (Sam Wood, 1939)
197 The Long Day Closes (1992, Terence Davies)
198 The Hole (1998, Ming-liang Tsai)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: goodguy on September 05, 2014, 07:10:56 AM
Yes, every film in the 200 was at least on two ballots.  Time of the Gypsies, ... was only on two ballots, but I think all the others are three or more.

So only Martin and me, then.  :'(

@Bondo:
Will you make the full spreadsheet with the votes for all films available as Wilson did in past years?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Corndog on September 05, 2014, 07:33:43 AM
Dang peeps, y'all do all need to get to Jane Eyre.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on September 05, 2014, 08:05:13 AM
Goodguy, I'll post the full spreadsheet when I get back to my computer Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sandy on September 05, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
Dang peeps, y'all do all need to get to Jane Eyre.

 :)

You tell 'em Corndog!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Corndog on September 05, 2014, 11:27:13 AM
Bummed I couldn't join for the chat last night. I kept getting booted, so I followed along in the thread instead.

Thanks so much to all who contributed to it this year. It was a great success IMO!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 05, 2014, 12:45:03 PM
Dang peeps, y'all do all need to get to Jane Eyre.

 :)

You tell 'em Corndog!
I read the book, I like the version in my head. Not sure I want to see a film version of it.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: 1SO on September 05, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
Here's some thoughts after looking at the list for a while:
I've been re-reading and thinking about this post numerous times since last night.

-The list that introduced me to the idea of "great" film is the AFI list.  But the list that really embodied that, that I could really embrace and understand these films to be great for all the reasons that they are is the Filmspotting 100.  There is a common element to this list over the last six years that I've been examining it, and I realize this is the one that is the heart of my film watching experience, what I think about when I think about truly great films.  Other lists have bolts out of the blue, but this list, as much as I might disagree about some of the choices (Goodfellas, really?), is what I think about when I think of generally great films that could be agreed upon by a community.
I agree. As a lover of lists, the Filmspotting 100 goes right at the top. For anyone interested in films, this is a great starting point.
Interesting that you choose Goodfellas as your "really?" example. Mine would be Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in the Top 5.


-The second two hundred is, if anything, more interesting than the first. 
Agree here too. 1-100 is a great Intro to Cinema, but 101-200 is where it becomes more of a Filmspotters list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Jared on September 05, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
Havent seen Beau Travail, The Time of Gypsies (not for lack of trying on those two...they arent on Netflix or at the library) and Jane Eyre. Got the other 197!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sandy on September 05, 2014, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: Sam the Cinema Snob link=topic=12860.msg781711#msg781711

I read the book, I like the version in my head. Not sure I want to see a film version of it.

I can't argue with that Sam. It may be perfect just the way it is.

For me, even though I loved the book first, most of the adaptations bring me something of value to add to it. It's all a swirl now of favorite scenes and pieces of dialogue, external and internal.

Hopefully, if you do end up seeing the film, it won't detract from what you already have created in your imagination, but will add something beautiful.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on September 05, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
You're saying all of these words but what you really need is a pretty picture (http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/25900000/Michael-Fassbender-as-Mr-Rochester-Jane-Eyre-2011-michael-fassbender-25910496-1920-1040.jpg).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Corndog on September 05, 2014, 02:19:03 PM
Need I remind you all also Jane Eyre is from Cary Fukunaga, the same man who has already brought you Sin Nombre and True Detective!?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 05, 2014, 04:20:39 PM
Quote from: Sam the Cinema Snob link=topic=12860.msg781711#msg781711

I read the book, I like the version in my head. Not sure I want to see a film version of it.

I can't argue with that Sam. It may be perfect just the way it is.

For me, even though I loved the book first, most of the adaptations bring me something of value to add to it. It's all a swirl now of favorite scenes and pieces of dialogue, external and internal.

Hopefully, if you do end up seeing the film, it won't detract from what you already have created in your imagination, but will add something beautiful.
I was talking about this with someone who is a big Shakespeare fan. He was telling me of all these film adaptations that I should see, the big one being Branagh's Henry V. Well, I saw Henry V at The Globe in London and I just feel like the film wouldn't live up to that experience I already have. I'd rather seek out new experiences than adaptations or different renditions of experiences I've already had.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on September 05, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Dang peeps, y'all do all need to get to Jane Eyre.
I read the book, I like the version in my head. Not sure I want to see a film version of it.
I get that completely. I feel the same way about the prospect of reading the book.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on September 05, 2014, 04:30:17 PM
That argument only works if you're willing to never see The Thing because you've already seen The Thing from Another World (or the other way around).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on September 05, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
I think you keep looking until you find the ultimate version... then you stop.

True Grit (coens), Robin Hood (Costner), etc.


Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: pixote on September 05, 2014, 05:14:41 PM
I think you keep looking until you find the ultimate version... then you stop.

True Grit (coens), Robin Hood (Costner), etc.

You're the best.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on September 05, 2014, 05:16:58 PM
Yeah, everybody knows its the one with the animals.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 05, 2014, 05:44:15 PM
Flynn, obvi.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on September 05, 2014, 05:52:02 PM
You're the best.

(http://i.imgur.com/iNQ6DOA.gif)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on September 06, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
Here is the number of films from the group top-100 that were on each respective voter's ballot:

ses   48
sdb_1970   46
philip918   45
GothamCity151   40
jbissell   39
Corndog   38
Harpo Speaks   38
oldkid   34
jdc   34
Antares   33
1SO   33
tinyholidays   33
Totoro   31
Sam the Cinema Snob   31
jswysin   31
Dave the Necrobumper   30
Keith   30
Junior   27
AVERAGE 25.8
Beavermoose   24
oneaprilday   23
MartinTeller   22
JakeIsntFake   20
Strong Opinions   18
PeacefulAnarchy   18
Bondo   15
jascook   15
Sandy   14
JeffreySchroeck   14
roujin   12
The Deer Hunter   10
Verite   10
sdedalus   9
smirnoff   7
goodguy   5

And here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YCO5eHnqbksQSXDiybmY1VXNF3oKa5jTqh00nPUYU8U/edit?usp=sharing) is the complete ranking of films receiving votes. I apologize for the inconsistent formatting of film titles but I worked with what I was given on things that didn't make the top list.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Junior on September 06, 2014, 11:47:16 PM
Middle of the pack! Middle of the pack!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: goodguy on September 07, 2014, 07:31:01 AM
Here is the number of films from the group top-100 that were on each respective voter's ballot:
...
AVERAGE 25.8
...
goodguy   5

That's 2 less than last time, I think.

And here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YCO5eHnqbksQSXDiybmY1VXNF3oKa5jTqh00nPUYU8U/edit?usp=sharing) is the complete ranking of films receiving votes.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 07, 2014, 08:18:43 AM
Slightly above average. Story of my life.  ;)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: sdb_1970 on September 07, 2014, 01:58:26 PM
A little surprised because as I read through the group top 100 the other night, I kept thinking, "that made the top 100?" ... So that I appreciate a lot of films that a lot of other people appreciate means:
(a) my tastes lack uniqueness or personality (glass half-empty); or
(b) I'm especially attuned to the pulse of the FS zeitgeist (glass half-full)?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on September 07, 2014, 06:54:53 PM
smirnoff   7
goodguy   5

:)) And not a film in common either, iirc.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: goodguy on September 07, 2014, 07:58:42 PM
:)) And not a film in common either, iirc.

Creating a match matrix from the submitted ballots could be fun.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on September 07, 2014, 08:06:58 PM
Creating a match matrix from the submitted ballots could be fun.
       (http://i.imgur.com/Evdwm.gif)
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Bondo on September 07, 2014, 11:26:16 PM
I'll ponder the best way to make that happen, though truly the Ratings Project is the ideal database for such things.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: goodguy on September 08, 2014, 07:58:38 AM
I'll ponder the best way to make that happen, ...

Well, since you already pulled the FS T100 matches, I assume you preserved the data origins while tabulating the ballots. Should be easy enough to process with a few lines of code. I'll take a look at it if you want (and if there's a general interest beyond smirnoff and me).
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: Sandy on September 08, 2014, 08:28:35 AM
 :))

goodguy, you make it sound as easy as throwing together a pot of soup! Just add in some lines of code to the data origins and voilà!

I'm not worthy!

I would love to see the results of this concoction.
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: jbissell on August 31, 2015, 11:27:28 AM
Is this happening this year?
Title: Re: Filmspotter Top 100 2014-- Discussion
Post by: oldkid on August 31, 2015, 11:32:03 AM
Forgive me.  I took the lead last year, but this year I was so exhausted that I plumb forgot.   I am taking this month off, then we have Shocktober, Noirvember, Doctember and then we start building up for Filmspots.  We can double up with Shocktober, as most of us already have our top 100s in place and I'd like to see where we stand with all the new blood involved.

Or, please, if someone else is able to take it up, please do.