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Title: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: pixote on June 09, 2014, 11:32:25 PM
How is this not already a thing?

pixote
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: Bondo on June 10, 2014, 12:15:05 AM
So like, the scenes involving individual songs in musicals? But specifically the staging and not just the song.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: pixote on June 10, 2014, 12:26:30 AM
So like, the scenes involving individual songs in musicals? But specifically the staging and not just the song.

That's how I picture it, yeah. Well, more or less. It'd be hard to leave "Over the Rainbow" off my list, for lack of staging -- but "America" (West Side Story) is more the standard.

pixote
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: Bondo on June 10, 2014, 12:29:25 AM
I'd have to do a lot of thinking, but I recently declared Sixteen Going On Seventeen to be pretty much a perfect musical number. And whatever song it is they are doing during the whole fight in Seven Brides...or is that just music, I only remember the dance-fight, but I know it isn't any of the songs from the show that I remember.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: oldkid on June 10, 2014, 01:19:44 AM
Wow, okay.  This is a project, but a good one.

EDIT: After thinking for a moment on this, I have a point of order to ask.  I figure that musical scenes in non-musical movies (Such as Always Look on the Bright Side of Life or the parade scene in Ferris Bueller) are acceptable.  But what about scenes that focus on the music but aren't musical in a song-and-dance kind of way, such as the scene in Amadeus where Salieri is describing Mozart's music?  ("I was hearing the voice of God")
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: heisenbergman on June 10, 2014, 03:16:26 AM
like... 500 days of summer... the one with "You Make My Dreams"?

and Enchanted - "That's How You Know"

like those?
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: roujin on June 10, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
Will only list bolly numbers.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: MartinTeller on June 10, 2014, 10:17:46 AM
Girl Walk // All Day... does "the entire movie" count as a musical number?
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: oldkid on June 10, 2014, 10:40:45 AM
like... 500 days of summer... the one with "You Make My Dreams"?

and Enchanted - "That's How You Know"

like those?

No, more like "Unchained Melody" in Ghost.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: Jared on June 10, 2014, 01:39:21 PM
The problem with this is I'll have to choose between James Franco singing "Everytime" in Spring Breakers and Gene Kelly in "Singin in the Rain"  :-\
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: oldkid on July 03, 2014, 09:41:16 PM
I hate going first.  I always figure that I've forgotten some.  Well, I know I have.  This is too big a project to not have forgotten too many.  Conveniently, I have some spaces.  So the top 12 is my top 12 and they go in no particular order.  The lower 77 are also in no particular order.  But here's a starting place:


The best musical scenes create a poem, a romance that convinces us that the unreal is real.  We don’t care how unrealistic the situation is, the best musical scenes make us believe because we long for it to be true.  It is too beautiful, too perfect not to be true.  Good musical scenes stun us and take our breath away.  Perfect musical scenes create a world that we enter for a few moments.

Top 12 Musical Scenes

Red Shoes Ballet-- The Red Shoes
One of the most magnificent productions ever.  It is long, taking up the whole center of the movie, but it exemplifies what a musical scene can do, even without words.  All the emotion, power and themes presented in a single scene.  Even so, the complexity of staging and the colors create a fantasy stage world that takes one’s breath away. 

Do Re Mi- Sound of Music
Not only is this song one of the catchiest songs ever composed, but in film it is almost a miracle of writing and editing, creating a montage of setting, teaching and acceptance.  Everything about the legend of the Von Trapp singers are in this scene and it re-creates them right here, village life, prodigy singing, a teacher who is practically perfect in every way-- they got it all.

Lodi—Veer Zaara
This song perfectly exemplifies the joy and color of the best Bollywood musicals along with a village celebration and a battle of the sexes.   When I think of Bollywood, this is often the scene I return to.

Tonight (reprise)—West Side Story
Not the balcony fire escape scene, but near the end of the film with all the heavies of the cast singing.  This is probably the best penultimate songs ever.  At this point in the film, we have accepted the musical world of dancing gang fights and Natalie Wood as an immigrant or not.  Now we have the original romantic song mixed with gangs prepping for a fight and the seductress readying herself to get her man.  They are talking themselves up and this perfectly ramps us up, ready for a exciting conclusion.

When Your Mind’s Made Up –Once
We have been following our two lead characters for half the film getting reading to create an album, and finally, when they are in the studio, we see them from the place of the editing booth.  The editor has heard thousands of bands, and this is one more.  As the song continues, though, he sets aside his book and begins to realize that this band is different, and deserving of his full attention.  At this point the band amps up and gives us their full energy.  Best studio scene ever.

Everybody Wants to Be a Cat—Aristocats
Honestly, the Aristocats is among the least of Disney’s catalog (no pun intended). But when they arrive at the “pad” and the music hits us, we realize we are in for something fun.  As we are introduced to the new characters, we really warm up.   The song is so infectious and builds up to such a peak, we find ourselves singing it long after the film is over.   A meter of racism is uncomfy, but it passes quickly and then we are bouncing and giggling and the colors flash and… yeah, man.

Barn Dance—Seven Brides for Seven Brothers
It amazes me how much sexual tension you can put in a film that’s really a G-rated musical.  The tension of the seven brothers finally explode in their competition with the other men of the town at the barn raising.  The dance itself begins tame and builds up to a level of circus acrobatics.  Eye-popping and entertaining to the highest degree.

“I was hearing the voice of God”—Amadeus
Amadeus combines some of the most magnificent music ever written with commentary on the music and the human being filled with longing and religious jealousy that combines to a sweet complexity.  It is no wonder so many people thought that the story was really true.

Candy Colored Clown—Blue Velvet
It is common for musical scenes to express joy, exhilaration or spectacle, but they rarely express dread.  With no context, there is not much happening in this scene, but in the film, we are just waiting for everything to explode.   Dennis Hopper provides the omnipotent backdrop of a violent lunatic which gives a new emotion to the Roy Orbison classic.

Lose That Long Face—A Star is Born (1954)
Judy Garland’s marriage is breaking up, but she must perform and the song she has to perform is that of a superficial joy despite sorrow.  She smiles and dances and clowns, but her depression is seen in the corner of her eyes, belying the joy she is supposed to exude.  A mix of emotions that causes us to cry instead of smile, as we are commanded.

Next to Last Song –Dancer in the Dark
This is the final scene of the film, Dancer in the Dark, so you might want to skip this description if you haven’t seen the film.   Bjork is dying for her love of her son, her care for her manipulative neighbor.  She isn’t strong enough to deal with this last scene, but once she realizes that her death leads to her son being able to see, she can once again be the heroine of her own musical.  She bolts out, “This isn’t the last song” and we weep at the abuse the world heaps on her.

O Death—O Brother Where Art Thou?
A Klu Klux Klan rally where a black man is about to be lynched is spooky. But when the head of the Klan begins singing the standard O Death with Ralph Stanley’s weak and cracking voice, we wonder if the lynching isn’t about a perverted sense of justice, but a human sacrifice.  And when the Klan begins marching to the beat of the song, it’s simply surreal.

77 Other Great Musical Scenes (in no particular order):

Spoonful of Sugar—Mary Poppins
Train Scene—Music Man
Chim Chim Chimery/Step in Time—Mary Poppins
Empty Spaces—Pink Floyd The Wall—Empty Spaces
Singing in the Rain—Singing in the Rain
I Dreamed A Dream –Les Miserables
Linda Linda—Linda Linda Linda
New York New York—Shame
Bye Bye Life—All That Jazz
Molasses to Rum –1776
Music Box Dance—Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
Opening credits –Skyfall
Be Our Guest—Beauty and the Beast
I Won’t Dance –Swing Time
Treat Her Right—The Commitments
Falling Slowly—Once
Always Look on the Bright Side of Life – Life of Brian
The Man That Got Away—A Star is Born
Hunchback of Notre Dame—Hellfire
Rainbow Connection—The Muppet Movie
I’ve Seen It All—Dancer in the Dark
Isn’t It a Lovely Day—Top Hat
An American In Paris—Tap Dance
My Beloved Monster—Shrek
Do You Want To Build a Snowman?—Frozen
I’ll Try—Return to Neverland
Love on the Rocks—The Jazz Singer
When Somebody Loved Me—Toy Story 2
Thus Spake Zarathustra –2001: A Space Odyssey
You Make My Dreams Come True –500 Days of Summer
This Is Halloween—The Nightmare Before Christmas
Man or Muppet?—The Muppets
I Will Follow Him –Sister Act
That’s How You Know –Enchanted
The Lonely Goatherd—Sound of Music
Prince Ali—Aladdin
Yeh Duniya Agar Mil Bhi Jaye To—Pyaasa
Don’t Rain On My Parade –Funny Girl
Little Town—Beauty and the Beast
Unchained Melody –Ghost
Honor to Us all—Mulan
Parade—Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
Topsy Turvy—Hunchback of Notre Dame
Love Is An Open Door—Frozen
Yeh Tara Woh Tara—Swades
Putting on My Sunday Clothes—Hello Dolly
I Just Can’t Wait To Be King—Lion King
We Got Trouble—Music Man
Over the Rainbow—Wizard of Oz
With One More Look At You/Watching Me Now—A Star is Born 1976
Why don’t you do right –Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Poor Unfortunate Souls—Little Mermaid
On Broadway—All That Jazz
Gee Officer Krupskie—West Side Story
Babysitter’s Blues—Adventures in Babysitting
Hey Big Spender—Sweet Charity
The Hills Are Alive—Sound of Music
Beauty School Dropout—Grease
Circle of Life—Lion King
Que Sera Sera –The Man Who Knew Too Much
French Club Dance –Funny Face
A Clockwork Orange—Singin In the Rain
Musical Aliens –Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Dueling Banjos –Deliverance
Stonehenge –Spinal Tap
Wayne’s World—Bohemian Rhapsody
Fame—Hot Lunch Jam
The Trial –Pink Floyd The Wall
Grease—Sandy
Hunchback of Notre Dame—God Help the Outcast
Take me or Leave Me—Rent
Your Song—Moulin Rouge
And I Am Telling You –Dreamgirls
I Want It All –High School Musical 3
Do You See The Light?—Blues Brothers
South Park—Blame Canada

Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: MartinTeller on July 03, 2014, 11:01:58 PM
Making this list is really daunting to me.  I haven't even started yet.  Ranking is going to be especially tough.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: 1SO on July 03, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
I started making a list and ended up in a corner rocking back and forth. It's daunting.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: tinyholidays on July 03, 2014, 11:14:15 PM
I just looked at oldkid's list, said, "holy s---," and backed away from the computer. Where are the smelling salts.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: oldkid on July 03, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
And honestly, I am not done.  I really like my top 12.  But this is only the beginning.

Notice, Martin, I avoided ranking, except on a very basic level.  But I wanted to post what I had here before I posted my response to 1SO's questions because I had already worked so hard on it. Lost some sleep on this list.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: MartinTeller on July 04, 2014, 12:46:40 AM
I've started a tentative list.  Thinking of keeping it to one scene per movie, but I'd have a hell of a time choosing between "On Broadway" and "Bye Bye Love" from All That Jazz (or "Everything Old Is New Again" for that matter).
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: oldkid on July 04, 2014, 01:18:58 AM
I've started a tentative list.  Thinking of keeping it to one scene per movie, but I'd have a hell of a time choosing between "On Broadway" and "Bye Bye Love" from All That Jazz (or "Everything Old Is New Again" for that matter).

I thought about that.  But how could I choose only one from The Sound of Music, from All That Jazz or from Once?  Honestly, I think the only reason I didn't chose a scene from All that Jazz is because I couldn't choose between the top two.  This is a tough list, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: MattDrufke on January 22, 2015, 08:49:40 AM
When Your Mind’s Made Up –Once
We have been following our two lead characters for half the film getting reading to create an album, and finally, when they are in the studio, we see them from the place of the editing booth.  The editor has heard thousands of bands, and this is one more.  As the song continues, though, he sets aside his book and begins to realize that this band is different, and deserving of his full attention.  At this point the band amps up and gives us their full energy.  Best studio scene ever.

I know I'm late to the game here, but I'm knew and catching up on old stuff and have always had thoughts on this specific scene.

I love Once. It may be one of my top 20 movies of all time. I will get teary-eyed every time I watch Glen Hansard on the street singing "Say It To Me Now" (in that beautiful one-take) in a performance that is all blood and sweat and tears and heart and voice and song. There are so few missteps in this movie, but this scene is one to me that I dislike so much.

To me, this is the only scene that doesn't feel true. Specifically the acting from the producer, which feels so forced and hackneyed. I get that he's discovering what a special treat he has in his studio, but the actions (putting down a book, then messing with the dials, then really getting into it) just seems so cliched. This feels like the scene in (quite a few) movies where a band starts playing and everyone doesn't care but by the end, everyone has come alive (and I even like some of those scenes- particularly in Blues Brothers better). Or any scene involving a slow clap.

Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: MartinTeller on January 22, 2015, 10:27:32 AM
When Your Mind’s Made Up –Once
We have been following our two lead characters for half the film getting reading to create an album, and finally, when they are in the studio, we see them from the place of the editing booth.  The editor has heard thousands of bands, and this is one more.  As the song continues, though, he sets aside his book and begins to realize that this band is different, and deserving of his full attention.  At this point the band amps up and gives us their full energy.  Best studio scene ever.

I know I'm late to the game here, but I'm knew and catching up on old stuff and have always had thoughts on this specific scene.

I love Once. It may be one of my top 20 movies of all time. I will get teary-eyed every time I watch Glen Hansard on the street singing "Say It To Me Now" (in that beautiful one-take) in a performance that is all blood and sweat and tears and heart and voice and song. There are so few missteps in this movie, but this scene is one to me that I dislike so much.

To me, this is the only scene that doesn't feel true. Specifically the acting from the producer, which feels so forced and hackneyed. I get that he's discovering what a special treat he has in his studio, but the actions (putting down a book, then messing with the dials, then really getting into it) just seems so cliched. This feels like the scene in (quite a few) movies where a band starts playing and everyone doesn't care but by the end, everyone has come alive (and I even like some of those scenes- particularly in Blues Brothers better). Or any scene involving a slow clap.

100% agree, Matt.  Once is #34 on my list, but this is I think the only sour note in the whole movie.  The bit with the producer is so fake (for one thing, no producer who wanted to get hired again would EVER be reading a book in the middle of a record), and so unnecessary.  It's the only part where the film tries to tell the audience how good the music is. 

John Varney's follow-up Begin Again has more of these kind of moments, which is part of what makes that film so disappointing by comparison.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: MattDrufke on January 22, 2015, 11:07:28 AM
For the best studio scene in a movie, and this might be a cheat, but I'd have to go with Wilco recording "Kamera" in the movie I Am Trying To Break Your Heart. I don't love that it's not a complete take (they cut in a few interviews with the band), but to watch a song that I knew from the album as a mellow, quiet number be attempted as a loud, guitar-bombast piece was so much fun. And lead singer Jeff Tweedy at the end just has this look on his face like, "Well, we tried it this way, and that was crazy." I think he even says something like, "Uh.... yeah. Ok."

That's a great performance and look into a studio from a movie filled with scenes like that.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: smirnoff on January 22, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
Are we forgetting Sarah Marshall?
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 26, 2016, 09:38:25 PM
As Merry May comes closer to an end, it may be a good idea to bump this up. Someone may be inspired to produce a personal ranking.
Title: Re: Top 100 Musical Numbers
Post by: ProperCharlie on November 17, 2016, 11:20:27 AM
Necrobumping with a few ideas and interesting additions from films I've seen in the last year and a bit.  Some worthy, some less so...

Two Coens:
'No Dames' - Hail Caesar
'Please Mr. Kennedy' - Inside Llewyn Davis

'Les Recontres' - Les Demoiselles de Rochefort (and much of the rest of the soundtrack)
'Musician Please Take Heed' - God Help the Girl
'Creaky Door' - Frank (acutally a deleted scene, but lots of the good stuff got cut from the film  :( )
'The Final Derriere' - The Forbidden Room

I would love to include some stuff from 'The Get Down', but not a film.

All of the above available in clip form on YouTube as I type.