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Title: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: 1SO on December 11, 2015, 01:23:45 PM
751 Directors Rated
680 Directors have enough data for Rankings and Lists
10.6: The Average amount of Ratings per director
6.0027: The Average Score
Director #340, the middle of the pack: Michael Cimino
Director closest to The Average Score: Hark Tsui, with a Score of 5.998

Director Ratings Project (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13384.0)
Weekly Results (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13387.0)
Top 50 Most Divisive Directors (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13635.0)

The Great Unknown: 0-1 Ratings (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg823163#msg823163)
The Great Unknown: 2 Ratings (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg823201#msg823201)
The Great Unknown: 3 Ratings (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg823501#msg823501)


Top 102
#102 Pier Paolo Pasolini
#101 William A. Wellman (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824037#msg824037)
#100 Michael Curtiz
#99 David Lean
#98 Orson Welles
#97 Joseph H.Lewis
#96 David Cronenberg (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824135#msg824135)
#95 Ang Lee
#94 Stanley Donen
#93 Danny Boyle
#92 Wladyslaw Starewicz
#91 Luis Bunuel (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824191#msg824191)
#90 Quentin Tarantino
#89 Roy Andersson
#88 Johnnie To
#87 Sergi Eisenstein
#86 Budd Boetticher (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824228#msg824228)
#85 Steve McQueen
#84 David Yates
#83 Vνctor Erice
#82 Hirokazu Koreeda
#81 Renι Clair (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824299#msg824299)
#80 Sidney Lumet
#79 Mikhail Kalatozov
#78 Preston Sturges
#77 Andrei Tarkovsky
#76 William Wyler (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824351#msg824351)
#75 Busby Berkeley
#74 Abbas Kiarostami
#73 Max Ophuls
#72 Jacques Tourneur
#71 Claire Denis (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824361#msg824361)
#70 Phil Karlson
#69 Isao Takahata
#68 Ida Lupino
#67 Theodoros Angelopouls
#66 Jean-Pierre Melville (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824429#msg824429)
#65 Tex Avery
#64 Errol Morris
#63 Xavier Dolan
#62 Jean Renoir
#61 Steven Soderbergh (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824477#msg824477)
#60 Billy Wilder
#59 F.W. Murnau
#58 Nicholas Ray
#57 Milos Forman
#56 Raoul Ruiz (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824496#msg824496)
#55 Pedro Almodσvar
#54 Anthony Mann
#53 Victor Sjφstrφm
#52 Roman Polanski
#51 Frank Borzage (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824528#msg824528)
#50 Henri-Georges Clouzot
#49 Eric von Stroheim
#48 Douglas Sirk
#47 Georges Mιliθs (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824580#msg824580)
#46 Edgar Wright
#45 Bιla Tarr
#44 Sergio Leone
#43 Alfonso Cuarσn (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824612#msg824612)
#42 Buster Keaton
#41 Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne
#40 Werner Herzog
#39 Yasujiro Ozu (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824673#msg824673)
#38 Todd Haynes
#37 Steven Spielberg
#36 David Fincher
#35 Agnθs Varda (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824715#msg824715)
#34 Elia Kazan
#33 Ernst Lubitsch
#32 Don Hertzfeldt
#31 Spike Jonze (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824772#msg824772)
#30 Ritwik Ghatak
#29 John Ford
#28 Frank Capra (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824797#msg824797)
#27 David Lynch
#26 Robert Bresson
#25 Paul Thomas Anderson (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824828#msg824828)
#24 Woody Allen
#23 Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
#22 Robert Altman (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824853#msg824853)
#21 Wong Kar-Wai
#20 Chuck Jones
#19 Francis Ford Coppola (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824892#msg824892)
#18 Eric Rohmer
#17 Howard Hawks
#16 Frederick Wiseman (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824899#msg824899)
#15 Krzysztof Kieslowski
#14 Fritz Lang
#13 Akira Kurosawa (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824940#msg824940)
#12 Richard Linklater
#11 Ingmar Bergman (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824967#msg824967)
#10 Terrence Malick
#9 Wes Anderson (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825119#msg825119)
#8 Mike Leigh
#7 Joel and Ethan Coen (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825130#msg825130)
#6 Martin Scorsese
#5 Masaki Kobayashi (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825152#msg825152)
#4 Stanley Kubrick
#3 Satyajit Ray
#2 Alfred Hitchcock
#1 Hayao Miyazaki (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825183#msg825183)


Bottom 20
#20 Alex de la Iglesia
#19 Kevin Smith
#18 Peter Berg
#17 Simon West (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825305#msg825305)
#16 Jon M. Chu
#15 George Lucas
#14 Jake Kasdan
#13 Brett Ratner (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825311#msg825311)
#12 Jon Turteltaub
#11 Renny Harlin
#10 Dennis Dugan
#9 Andrew Bergman (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825318#msg825318)
#8 Alan Rudolph
#7 Rob Zombie
#6 Dusan Makavejev (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825342#msg825342)
#5 Michael Bay
#4 Edward Burns
#3 Dominic Sena (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825346#msg825346)
#2 Jared Hess
#1 Uwe Boll (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg825355#msg825355)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 11, 2015, 01:24:32 PM
The Great Unknown pt. 1

These submitted directors received 1 Rating, except for Fernando Arrabal who received no Ratings

Director                                             Suggested By                                  Score
Kira Muratovaworm@work7.630
Jeanine Meerapfelgoodguy6.677
Alicia Schersongoodguy6.677
Werner Schroetergoodguy6.677
Shinji Somairoujin6.677
Rudolf Thomegoodguy6.677
Emile de Antoniopixote5.723
Radley Metzgerroujin5.723
Naoko Ogigamiroujin5.723
Ingrid VeningerBeavermoose5.723
Larry Cohen1SO5.341
Bertrand Blierpixote4.769
Ulu Grosbardsmirnoff4.769
William Witneypixote3.720
Fernando ArrabalFarfetchFilmno rating
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: MartinTeller on December 11, 2015, 04:42:11 PM
It would be good to know who those single ratings are from. Can't remember if I voted on this guy or not:

Marcel Pagnol - 8


The others I've seen at most 1 film by.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 11, 2015, 06:08:50 PM
Though I'm still taking Ratings up thru 12/15 (and probably a little beyond), I decided to start with The Great Unknown because these are Directors who need a little more attention. They were championed by someone, but are too deep in obscurity.

The Great Unknown will be 3 or 4 posts, and if Ratings for these 71 are submitted, it will be easy for me to make the adjustment to one of the other lists. I also figured this could be done while double-checking the posts for Ratings I missed. Sure enough, I missed a Martin post which is why there are now 71 names among The Great Unknown, down from 79.

I didn't want to single anyone out by naming who submitted the only rating for a director. Often the person who submitted the name isn't the person who submitted the rating.

I also submitted for Marcel Pagnol, so he will be removed from the previous Results post and appear in the next one.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 12, 2015, 09:23:12 AM
The Great Unknown pt. 2

These submitted directors received 2 Ratings, which is not enough data to make any of the final lists.

Director                                             Suggested By                                  Score
Jessica Hausnergoodguy6.953
Harry KumelMartinTeller6.713
Takashi Shimizu1SO6.713
Yoshishige Yoshidaworm@work6.713
Marcel Pagnolpixote6.465
Jose Luis Gueringoodguy6.234
Sacha Guitry(unknown)5.754
Jerzy Skolimowskiworm@work5.754
Dominik Grafgoodguy5.515
Benedek Fliegaufgoodguy5.115
Jon Jostroujin5.115
Pou-Soi Cheangworm@work4.795
Mihalis Kakogiannisgoodguy4.795
Nanouk Leopoldgoodguy4.795
Matthew Porterfieldgoodguy4.795
Alfred E. Green(unknown)4.316
Luca GuadagninoTotoro4.156
Benoit Jacquotgoodguy4.156
Joanna HoggVerite3.836
Kornel Mundruczogoodguy3.836
Jean Rollinroujin3.836
Bruce LaBruceBeavermoose3.596
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on December 12, 2015, 10:34:39 AM
I should watch a second Hogg film in the next couple days so I can get a vote in.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 12, 2015, 11:13:46 AM
Of the 71 names on The Great Unknown, I've seen enough to rate 23 of them. I would love to Marathon the rest, but I don't have that kind of time anymore.

I would love to post the final list to give people time to watch and Rate the names that only need 1 more Rating, but it would be too easy to game the system to ensure placement in the Top 100 Directors for the highly-rated ones. It could also lead to people watching directors they normally wouldn't and sabotaging them with unfairly low ratings. Perhaps I will just give their names but not post what their current score is until after the 15th.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: valmz on December 14, 2015, 01:22:00 AM
I saw a screening recently with Yoshishige Yoshida and he would be honored if you took the time to see his films - he said so himself! It didn't sound like he was too concerned with ratings, though, so I don't think he would be upset about watching this list from the sidelines.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 17, 2015, 02:00:20 PM
This is the format I'm currently considering, open to suggestions.
I think a Top List would only hold general interest through 100. Picked this director at random as a Beta test.


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#561 Alejandro Gonzαlez Iραrritu (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0327944)
Score: 5.052 (16 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–0

Key Films:
Amores perros (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245712/) [Love's a Bitch] (2000)
Babel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449467/) (2006)
Birdman (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2562232/) (2014)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Junior on December 17, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
Is giving a number for every ranking too much? Like, AGI got 0 10s, 0 9s, 5 8s, 12 7s and so on? That might be interesting. Or it might be too much info.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 17, 2015, 02:25:40 PM
I think it would be too much info, and the high ratings would get lost in a number of 4s, 5s, and 6s.
Plus, I'd have to round up/down all the Ratings with decimal points or include .5s
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Junior on December 17, 2015, 02:30:04 PM
Yeah, that makes sense. Other than that, I'm golden, pony boy.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on December 17, 2015, 06:39:18 PM
Yeah probably don't need 100 ranked. Top 50 maybe + ones of interest/divisiveness.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 17, 2015, 07:49:19 PM
That's something to consider. Creating the ranked list is easy, but I can save the details for top/specific directors (perhaps ones with over 15 Ratings) and do a format similar to the Weekly Results for the rest until I get to the Top 25 or 50.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on December 17, 2015, 09:43:55 PM
Yeah probably don't need 100 ranked. Top 50 maybe + ones of interest/divisiveness.

I feel like 50-100 will contain the most interesting/divisive selections.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 18, 2015, 09:46:42 AM
The Great Unknown pt. 3

These submitted directors received 3 Ratings, one short of making the official list.
[Some of these credited to MartinTeller may not have actually been submitted my Martin. He was merely posting the requests of others.]

Director                                             Suggested By                Score
Raj Kapoorworm@work7.630
Philippe GrandrieuxKnocked Out Loaded7.360
Bimal Royworm@work7.360
Luis Garcia BerlangaMartinTeller7.200
Shuji Terayamaroujin7.200
Vishal Bhardwajgoodguy7.040
Bill Douglas1SO7.040
Hiroshi Shimizuroujin7.040
Hideo GoshaMartinTeller6.880
Muriel BoxBondo6.563
Reha Erdemgoodguy6.528
Alain GuiraudieArmenianScientist6.400
Ryuhei Kitamura1SO6.400
Jacques RozierVerite6.400
Maria Spethgoodguy6.240
Krzystof Zanussiroujin6.208
Cheh Changsdedalus6.080
Stephanie LafleurBeavermoose6.080
Stefan Uhergoodguy6.080
Pietro GermiMartinTeller5.920
Dorothy Arzner1SO5.760
Isabel Coixetgoodguy5.760
Jean-Pierre Gorinroujin5.440
Jerzy Kawalerowiczgoodguy5.440
Jean-Claude Brisseauroujin5.280
Rolf de HeerDave the Necrobumper5.280
Francois GirardBeavermoose5.248
Paul Bartel1SO5.120
Patrice Chereau1SO5.120
Lewis Allen1SO5.037
Marco BellocchioWillMunny4.576
Anthony Harvey1SO4.480
Nicholas Hytner1SO4.160
Gabriel AxelJakeIsntFake3.680
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on December 30, 2015, 02:02:11 PM
Felt like doing another one while waiting for the New Year.


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#102 Pier Paolo Pasolini (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001596/)
Score: 6.978 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Mamma Roma (1962)
The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964)
The Hawks and the Sparrows (1966)
Salς, or the 120 Days of Sodom (1975)



(http://imgur.com/PLxZ9XL.jpg)
#101 William A. Wellman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0920074/)
Score: 6.988 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
The Public Enemy (1931)
A Star is Born (1937)
The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)
Battleground (1949)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 01, 2016, 01:54:58 AM
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#100 Michael Curtiz
Score: 6.997 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Captain Blood (1935)
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) [co-directed by William Keighley]
Angels with Dirty Faces (1938)
Casablanca (1942)
Mildred Pierce (1945)


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#99 David Lean
Score: 7.003 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–4

Key Films:
Brief Encounter (1945)
Great Expectations (1946)
The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
Doctor Zhivago (1965)



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#98 Orson Welles
Score: 7.016 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–4

Key Films:
Citizen Kane (1941)
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942)
The Stranger (1946)
The Lady from Shanghai (1948) 
Touch of Evil (1958)



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#97 Joseph H. Lewis
Score: 7.022 (7 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
My Name is Julia Ross (1945)
Gun Crazy (1949)
The Undercover Man (1949)
A Lady Without Passport (1950)
The Big Combo (1955)


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#96 David Cronenberg
Score: 7.026 (20 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
Videodrome (1983)
The Fly (1986)
Dead Ringers (1988) 
Naked Lunch (1991)
A History of Violence (2005)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 01, 2016, 03:47:25 PM
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#95 Ang Lee
Score: 7.036 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 1–0

Key Films:
Eat Drink Man Woman (1994)
Sense and Sensibility (1995)
The Ice Storm (1997)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
Brokeback Mountain (2005)



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#94 Stanley Donen
Score: 7.038 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 1–2

Key Films:
Singin’ in the Rain (1952) [co-directed by Gene Kelly]
Seven Brides For Seven Brothers (1954)
Funny Face (1957)
Charade (1963)
Two For the Road (1967)



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#93 Danny Boyle
Score: 7.042 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 2–2

Key Films:
Shallow Grave (1994)
Trainspotting (1995)
28 Days Later... (2002)
Sunshine (2007)
Slumdog Millionaire (2008)



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#92 Wladyslaw Starewicz
Score: 7.046 (5 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
The Revenge of a Kinematograph Cameraman (1912)
The Dragonfly and the Ant (1913)
The Insects' Christmas (1913)
The Frogs Who Wanted a King (1922)
The Story of the Fox (1930)



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#91 Luis Bunuel
Score: 7.053 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Un Chien andalou (1928)
L'Βge d'or (1930)
Los Olvidados (1950)
The Exterminating Angel (1962)
Belle de jour (1967)
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972)
That Obscure Object of Desire (1977)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 01, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
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#90 Quentin Tarantino
Score: 7.068 (22 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 2–3

Key Films:
Reservoir Dogs (1992)
Pulp Fiction (1994)
Jackie Brown (1997)
Kill Bill (2003/2004)
Inglourious Basterds (2009)


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#89 Roy Andersson
Score: 7.078 (7 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
A Swedish Love Story (1970)
World of Glory (1992)
Songs From the Second Floor (2000)
You, the Living (2007)
A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence (2014)



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#88 Johnnie To
Score: 7.088 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
The Mission (1999)
PTU (2003)
Election (2005)
Exiled (2006)
Sparrow (2008)
Drug War (2012)



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#87 Sergi Eisenstein
Score: 7.089 (8 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
Battleship Potemkin (1925)
Strike (1925)
October (Ten Days That Shook the World) (1928)
Alexander Nevsky (1938)
Ivan the Terrible (1945/1958)



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#86 Budd Boetticher
Score: 7.092 (7 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Seven Men From Now (1956)
The Killer is Loose (1956)
The Tall T (1957)
Ride Lonesome (1959)
Comanche Station (1960)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 02, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
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#85 Steve McQueen
Score: 7.107 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 2–1

Key Films:
Hunger (2008)
Shame (2011)
12 Years a Slave (2013)



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#84 David Yates
Score: 7.119 (12 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
State of Play (2003)
The Girl in the Cafι (2005)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007)
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (2010/2011)



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#83 Vνctor Erice
Score: 7.127 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–3

Key Films:
The Spirit of the Beehive (1973)
El Sur (1983)
Quince Tree of the Sun (1992)



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#82 Hirokazu Koreeda
Score: 7.143 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Maborosi (1995)
After Life (1998)
Nobody Knows (2004)
Still Walking (2008)
Like Father, Like Son (2013)



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#81 Renι Clair
Score: 7.148 (7 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Entr'acte (1924)
Under the Roofs of Paris (1930)
ΐ Nous la Libertι (1931)
Le Million (1931)
And Then There Were None (1945)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 03, 2016, 09:23:56 AM
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#80 Sidney Lumet
Score: 7.151 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
12 Angry Men (1957)
Fail-Safe (1964)
Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
Network (1976)
The Verdict (1982)



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#79 Mikhail Kalatozov
Score: 7.157 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
The Cranes Are Flying (1957)
Letter Never Sent (1960)
I Am Cuba (1964)
The Red Tent (1969)



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#78 Preston Sturges
Score: 7.176 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 1–3

Key Films:
The Lady Eve (1941)
Sullivan's Travels (1941)
The Palm Beach Story (1942)
Hail the Conquering Hero (1944)
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek (1944)



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#77 Andrei Tarkovsky
Score: 7.183 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
Ivan's Childhood (1962)
Andrei Rublev (1966)
Solaris (1972)
The Mirror (1975)
Stalker (1979)



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#76 William Wyler
Score: 7.194 (12 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 2–0

Key Films:
Dodsworth (1936)
The Letter (1940)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
The Heiress (1949)
Roman Holiday (1953)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 03, 2016, 09:38:42 AM
So far, I've had a tough time narrowing down Luis Bunuel and Johnnie To to 5 titles because both have had long and very diverse careers, but that's nothing compared to William Wyler, who was nominated for Best Director 12 times. In choosing 5, I left off...
The Good Fairy (1935)
Come and Get It (1936) [co-directed by Howard Hawks]
Jezebel (1938)
Wuthering Heights (1939)
The Westerner (1940)
The Little Foxes (1941)
Mrs. Miniver (1942)
Detective Story (1951)
The Desperate Hours (1955)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Children's Hour (1962)
The Collector (1965)
Funny Girl (1968)

With a career that diverse, it took time to find an image that might sum it up.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 03, 2016, 12:47:16 PM
This is great! Already such an interesting mix.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 03, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
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#75 Busby Berkeley
Score: 7.197 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–3

Key Films:
Dames (1934) [co-directed with Ray Enright]
Gold Diggers of 1935 (1935)
They Made Me a Criminal (1939)
Cabin in the Sky (1943) [co-directed with Vincente Minnelli]
The Gang's All Here (1943)



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#74 Abbas Kiarostami
Score: 7.210 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–1–2–6

Key Films:
Close-Up (1990)
Taste of Cherry (1997)
The Wind Will Carry Us (1999)
Certified Copy (2010)
Like Someone in Love (2012)



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#73 Max Ophuls
Score: 7.216 (9 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–2–2–1

Key Films:
Letter from an Unknown Woman (1948)
La Ronde (1950)
Le Plaisir (1952)
The Earrings of Madame de... (1953)
Lola Montθs (1955)



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#72 Jacques Tourneur
Score: 7.219 (12 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
Cat People (1942)
Canyon Passage (1946)
Out of the Past (1947)
Stars in My Crown (1950)
Curse of the Demon (1957)



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#71 Claire Denis
Score: 7.220 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–3–1–3

Key Films:
Chocolat (1988)
Beau Travail (1999)
Trouble Every Day (2001)
Friday Night [Vendredi Soir] (2002)
35 Shots of Rum (2008)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 03, 2016, 02:43:35 PM
As I get more used to the Results format, generating the posts more quickly, I'm on the lookout for interesting information. This is why some of the last directors contain expanded information. (9 out of 15 people rate Kiarostami at least an '8'.) Also, the difference between the scores is so slim - 99 names rate between 7 and 9 - which is why each Rating and the number of Ratings a director received counted so much.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 03, 2016, 04:22:25 PM
This is truly an amazing list.  Three directors so far I haven't seen anything by, and I certainly need to catch up with them.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 03, 2016, 04:44:38 PM
This is truly an amazing list.  Three directors so far I haven't seen anything by, and I certainly need to catch up with them.

Yeah there is a boatload of blindspots for me too... what is the best intro to Tarkovsky? He seems like a tough one.

Format is great 1SO.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Verite on January 03, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
Yeah there is a boatload of blindspots for me too... what is the best intro to Tarkovsky? He seems like a tough one.

I say Stalker. Watch 'em all though.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 03, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
Yeah there is a boatload of blindspots for me too... what is the best intro to Tarkovsky? He seems like a tough one.

I say Stalker. Watch 'em all though.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2016, 12:20:50 AM
I figured Tarintino would be higher on the list,
Tarantino is very divisive around here. (That list will come later.) 4 people Rated him a 3 or less.
I remember one time we tried forming a list where people could cast negative votes and people didn't like it because it was... well negative. With the Rating system you can certainly bring down a score with a negative rating, but the Score is also weighted to favor those who receive more ratings, which slightly offsets the negative votes. Looking ahead, the highest rated directors who will also rank high on the Divisive List are Paul Thomas Anderson and Terrence Malick, which makes sense to me.


and other directors I have barely heard of, with me not seeing a single film, made it on.  I've been influenced by this group for years now, taking on recommended film and director after another, but the forum still surprises me.
There are 22 names in the Top 100 where you didn't feel you had enough information to submit a Rating. An obvious example is Bela Tarr, who comes up a lot. His films are very spiritual, but they're also challenging if you can't get onto his wavelength.
The most popular name you didn't rate is Claire Denis (14 Ratings) followed by Frederick Wiseman (13 Ratings).


I'm most surprised by David Yates
Yates certainly benefits from being the Harry Potter guy, but all 4 of those films are really damn entertaining and surprisingly artistic. He's displayed a good grasp of keeping the story and characters in harmony with the effects. Then if you look beyond those films, he's got the excellent State of Play and the decent Girl in the Cafe. I hear Sex Traffic is also good. So, while it may be surprising to see Yates in a Top 100 of All Time list, he's quickly built a credible resume with no glaring flaws.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 04, 2016, 01:00:00 AM
I thought Danny Boyle would have been higher. :'(
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2016, 01:11:20 AM
Another divisive filmmaker.

In the next batch is the most obscure director to make the Top 100.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2016, 09:35:13 AM
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#70 Phil Karlson
Score: 7.221 (6 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–1

Key Films:
Scandal Sheet (1952)
Kansas City Confidential (1952)
99 River Street (1953)
The Phenix City Story (1955)
Walking Tall (1973)



(http://imgur.com/tqfP7T4.jpg)
#69 Isao Takahata
Score: 7.224 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–1–1–3

Key Films:
Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
Only Yesterday (1991)
Pom Poko (1994)
My Neighbors the Yamadas (1999)
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (2013)



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#68 Ida Lupino
Score: 7.237 (6 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–1–2

Key Films:
Outrage (1950)
The Hitch-Hiker (1953)
The Bigamist (1953)
The Trouble with Angels (1966)



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#67 Theodoros Angelopouls
Score: 7.239 (4 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–2

Key Films:
The Travelling Players (1975)
Landscape in the Mist (1988)
Ulysses' Gaze (1995)
Eternity and a Day (1998)



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#66 Jean-Pierre Melville
Score: 7.242 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–2–5

Key Films:
Bob le Flambeur (1956)
Le Doulos (1962)
Le Samouraο (1967)
Army of Shadows (1969)
Le Cercle Rouge (1970)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 04, 2016, 04:19:34 PM
Wow I whiff on four of those with three I've never heard of.  :-\
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2016, 04:39:12 PM
I'm noticing with this method for composing a Top 100 list there are some filmmakers who have a small but rabid fanbase, like Ida Lupino. On one hand her filmography is rather obscure, but those who watch a few wonder why these films aren't discussed more.

I bring this up because the next 5 contains a greater example. This director was only rated by 6 people, but the lowest Rating was 6.5, so even with the handicap of a small turnout they are coming in surprisingly strong.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2016, 08:20:14 PM
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#65 Tex Avery
Score: 7.277 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–2–4

Key Films:
A Wild Hare (1940)
Dumb-Hounded (1943)
Red Hot Riding Hood (1943)
King Size Canary (1947)
Bad Luck Blackie (1949)



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#64 Errol Morris
Score: 7.289 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–3–2

Key Films:
Gates of Heaven (1978)
The Thin Blue Line (1988)
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control (1997)
Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. (1999)
The Fog of War (2003)



(http://imgur.com/3PJ3jNZ.jpg)
#63 Xavier Dolan
Score: 7.318 (6 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–1–2

Key Films:
I Killed My Mother (2009)
Heartbeats (2010)
Laurence Anyways (2012)
Mommy (2014)



(http://imgur.com/3TrjLtW.jpg)
#62 Jean Renoir
Score: 7.322 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 0–5

Key Films:
La Chienne (1931)
The Lower Depths (1936)
The Crime of Monsieur Lange (1936)
La Grande illusion (1937)
La Bκte humaine (1938)
The Rules of the Game (1939)



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#61 Steven Soderbergh
Score: 7.325 (20 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–1–2

Key Films:
Sex, Lies, and Videotape (1989)
Schizopolis (1996)
Out of Sight (1998)
The Limey (1999)
Traffic (2000)
Bubble (2005)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 05, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
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#60 Billy Wilder
Score: 7.333 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–4–2

Key Films:
Double Indemnity (1944)
Sunset Blvd. (1950)
Ace in the Hole (1951)
Some Like It Hot (1959)
The Apartment (1960)



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#59 F.W. Murnau
Score: 7.345 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–3–6

Key Films:
Nosferatu (1922)
The Last Laugh (1924)
Faust (1926)
Sunrise (1927)
City Girl (1930)



(http://imgur.com/e2niQvB.jpg)
#58 Nicholas Ray
Score: 7.361 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–1–3

Key Films:
They Live by Night (1948)
In a Lonely Place (1950)
Johnny Guitar (1954)
Rebel Without a Cause (1955)
Bigger Than Life (1956)



(http://imgur.com/S8stSKz.jpg)
#57 Milos Forman
Score: 7.383 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–1–7

Key Films:
The Loves of a Blonde (1965)
The Firemen's Ball (1967)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
Amadeus (1984)
The People vs. Larry Flynt (1996)



(http://imgur.com/OqN3SD2.jpg)
#56 Raoul Ruiz
Score: 7.400 (6 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–2–1

Key Films:
The Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting (1978)
Dark at Noon (1992)
Time Regained (1999)
Comedy of Innocence (2000)
Mysteries of Lisbon (2010)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 05, 2016, 02:11:23 PM
(http://imgur.com/KONU5bU.jpg)
#55 Pedro Almodσvar
Score: 7.403 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–1–6

Key Films:
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (1988)
All About My Mother (1999)
Talk to Her (2002)
Volver (2006)
The Skin I Live In (2011)



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#54 Anthony Mann
Score: 7.407 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–2–1–2

Key Films:
Raw Deal (1948)
The Furies (1950)
Winchester '73 (1950)
The Naked Spur (1953)
The Tin Star (1957)



(http://imgur.com/2NUE5se.jpg)
#53 Victor Sjφstrφm
Score: 7.414 (7 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–3–2

Key Films:’
A Ruined Life (1912)
The Phantom Carriage (1921)
He Who Gets Slapped (1924)
The Scarlet Letter (1926)
The Wind (1928)



(http://imgur.com/y1rPfoV.jpg)
#52 Roman Polanski
Score: 7.415 (20 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 2–0–7

Key Films:
Knife in the Water (1962)
Repulsion (1965)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Chinatown (1974)
The Pianist (2002)


(http://imgur.com/0Hc6gZr.jpg)
#51 Frank Borzage
Score: 7.425 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 1–1–1–4

Key Films:
7th Heaven (1927)
Lucky Star (1929)
Bad Girl (1931)
The Mortal Storm (1940)
Moonrise (1948)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 06, 2016, 09:46:41 AM
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#50 Henri-Georges Clouzot
Score: 7.426 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–2–1–1

Key Films:
Le Corbeau: The Raven (1943)
Quai des Orfθvres (1947)
The Wages of Fear (1953)
Diabolique (1955)
The Mystery of Picasso (1956)



(http://imgur.com/4KsrPEZ.jpg)
#49 Eric von Stroheim
Score: 7.434 (5 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–2

Key Films:
Foolish Wives (1922)
Greed (1924)
The Merry Widow (1925)
The Wedding March (1928)
Queen Kelly (1929)



(http://imgur.com/J6zh4wP.jpg)
#48 Douglas Sirk
Score: 7.452 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8–7: 0–2–1–1–6

Key Films:
Magnificent Obsession (1954)
All That Heaven Allows (1955)
There's Always Tomorrow (1956)
Written on the Wind (1956)
Imitation of Life (1959)


(http://imgur.com/9tmZ27K.jpg)
#47 Georges Mιliθs
Score: 7.459 (8 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–2–2

Key Films:
Four Heads Are Better Than One (1898)
A Trip to the Moon (1902)
The Voyage Across the Impossible (1904)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 06, 2016, 03:24:59 PM
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#46 Edgar Wright
Score: 7.463 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 2–3–2

Key Projects:
Spaced [TV Series] (1999–2001)
Shaun of the Dead (2004)
Hot Fuzz (2007)
Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010)
The World's End (2013)



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#45 Bιla Tarr
Score: 7.471 (12 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 2–1–1–2

Key Films:
Satantango (1994)
Damnation (1988)
Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
The Man from London (2007)
The Turin Horse (2011)



(http://imgur.com/TnKJ5Mv.jpg)
#44 Sergio Leone
Score: 7.478 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9: 1–5

Key Films:
A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
For a Few Dollars More (1965)
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
Duck, You Sucker (1971)
Once Upon a Time in America (1984)



(http://imgur.com/oiBQXXI.jpg)
#43 Alfonso Cuarσn
Score: 7.480 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–2–5

Key Films:
A Little Princess (1995)
Y Tu Mamα Tambiιn (2001)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
Children of Men (2006)
Gravity (2013)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 09:09:44 AM
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#42 Buster Keaton
Score: 7.517 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–3–5

Key Films:
The Navigator (1924)
Sherlock Jr. (1924)
The General (1926)
The Cameraman (1928)
Steamboat Bill, Jr. (1928)



(http://i.imgur.com/BxjNl.png)
#41 Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne
Score: 7.540 (16 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9: 0–1–7

Key Films:
La Promesse (1996)
Rosetta (1999)
The Son (2002)
L'enfant (2005)
Two Days, One Night (2014)



(http://imgur.com/z2Xr6HP.jpg)
#40 Werner Herzog
Score: 7.544 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 1–2–7

Key Films:
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972)
La Soufriθre (1977)
Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979)
Fitzcarraldo (1982)
Grizzly Man (2005)



(http://imgur.com/gZDFr1B.jpg)
#39 Yasujiro Ozu
Score: 7.576 (10 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 1–1–2–3

Key Films:
Late Spring (1949)
Early Summer (1951)
Tokyo Story (1953)
Floating Weeds (1959)
An Autumn Afternoon (1962)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Jared on January 07, 2016, 09:59:23 AM
The math seemed to churn out a few head scratchers for me early on, but it seems like we are getting into the heavyweight division. Really like the directors in the last two posts, with Ozu and Leone being among my favorites...Keaton and Herzog not far behind.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: MartinTeller on January 07, 2016, 10:21:04 AM
How do you go about choosing the "key films"?  I love La Soufriere but it seems like an odd choice over Stroszek or The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser or Lessons of Darkness. Or even Rescue Dawn, which I'd guess is his most commercially successful film.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 10:32:19 AM
The math seemed to churn out a few head scratchers for me early on, but it seems like we are getting into the heavyweight division. Really like the directors in the last two posts, with Ozu and Leone being among my favorites...Keaton and Herzog not far behind.
I had a similar reaction. There's no way to balance out directors with a couple of Great films and a small filmography against someone who constantly makes movies. Is Edgar Wright ranked too high? He certainly seems to be considering the company he's in, but his filmography is consistently high quality. While I understand Georges Mιliθs ranking so high, I couldn't come up with more titles that you could point too as essential within his filmography. He was inventing cinema itself.

How do you go about choosing the "key films"?  I love La Soufriere but it seems like an odd choice over Stroszek or The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser or Lessons of Darkness. Or even Rescue Dawn, which I'd guess is his most commercially successful film.
I've been expecting this question. It's a combination of IMDB Ratings, TSPDT Director pages and Filmspotting Director Threads. I try to find a spread of films that cover a director's entire career (like with Ozu), but sometimes their key output is compressed in a small period of time (like Douglas Sirk). With Herzog, I wanted to be sure to include his documentaries and short films, which lead me to select La Soufriere. IMDB rates Lessons of Darkness higher, but this is a case where I've seen both films and La Soufriere has more of that personal Herzog touch. I also considered Land of Silence and Darkness.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 07, 2016, 10:43:02 AM
La Soufriere also has the benefit of being Herzog's best film.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 07, 2016, 01:25:15 PM
Obviously, inclusion in the Bondo Collection racks up high points.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 02:36:29 PM
It helps that I've seen many by these directors, so I know a film like Walking Tall is an important part of the complete Phil Karlson. With David Yates, I knew to include his non-Potter work, which I've seen and recommend. With Vνctor Erice, I've only seen The Spirit of the Beehive, so I have to look to what others recommend. Similar to Hirokazu Koreeda (who I don't like at all.) The hardest one for me was Raoul Ruiz, who I don't know at all. I leaned completely on my sources to select his Key films, and looked through Google Images for the screenshot. I selected the one most striking
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 02:44:49 PM
A little behind the scenes to show the impact of each Rating.

You know I'm not a fan of Yasujiro Ozu, who came in at #39 with Score: 7.576 (10 Ratings)
I Rated him a 4
Had I not Rated him at all, his Score would be 7.933, enough to make the Top 20
Had I Rated him a 6, his Score would be 7.78 and he would be in the Top 25
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: valmz on January 07, 2016, 02:55:28 PM
Erice's got three films, so that should be easy. Ruiz has 300 or so (or is it 3,000?), so you're never going to get agreement between even two Ruiz aficionados. Herzog is a nice middle ground, and I think the lesson is: You can never please everybody.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 03:20:09 PM
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#38 Todd Haynes
Score: 7.578 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–3–2–2

Key Films:
Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (1988)
Safe (1995)
Far from Heaven (2002)
I'm Not There. (2007)
Carol (2015)



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#37 Steven Spielberg
Score: 7.579 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 4–0–5

Key Films:
Jaws (1975)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
Schindler's List (1993)
Saving Private Ryan (1998)



(http://imgur.com/4uyc8zu.jpg)
#36 David Fincher
Score: 7.584 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 2–1–6

Key Films:
Se7en (1995)
Fight Club (1999)
Zodiac (2007)
The Social Network (2010)
Gone Girl (2014)



(http://imgur.com/OgzM24Z.jpg)
#35 Agnθs Varda
Score: 7.598 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–4–1–2

Key Films:
Cleo from 5 to 7 (1962)
Le Bonheur (1965)
Vagabond (1985)
The Gleaners & I (2000)
The Beaches of Agnθs (2008)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 03:26:58 PM
A Little Behind the Scenes

#38 Todd Haynes
Score: 7.578 (15 Ratings)

#37 Steven Spielberg
Score: 7.579 (21 Ratings)


A very close Score. Spielberg's advantage here is maintaining a high Rating over 21 Ratings. Unweighted, Todd Haynes is a 7.4 to Spielberg's 7.2, but 5 people didn't Rate Haynes at all, Ratings which could've gone either way.

Also, one person Rated Steven Spielberg a '1'. Remove that Rating and his Score would be 7.866. His unweighted Score would be 7.5, higher than Todd Haynes unweighted Score.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 07, 2016, 06:34:33 PM
I'm happy Varda broke the top 50!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on January 07, 2016, 06:54:03 PM
I'm happy Varda broke the top 50!

Yes! (And there's that beautiful Beaches of Agnes frame again!)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 07, 2016, 09:15:38 PM
Agnθs Varda was another one where I thought "how I am supposed to sum up her greatness in a single frame?" Then I remembered your quote of goodguy's post, and knew I had to go with it even though I haven't seen The Beaches of Agnθs yet. (High on my Watchlist. Probably this year.)

Varda is the highest ranking female director.

For anyone who thinks these kinds of lists favor active directors, there are only 14 more names (or teams) who are still making movies.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 07, 2016, 10:39:33 PM
This is great. I need to see more Herzog especially with Bad Lieutenant on my Top 100. Watchlist got a nice padding there.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 08, 2016, 09:35:41 AM
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#34 Elia Kazan
Score: 7.603 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–1–3–4

Key Films:
A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
On the Waterfront (1954)
East of Eden (1955)
A Face in the Crowd (1957)
Splendor in the Grass (1961)



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#33 Ernst Lubitsch
Score: 7.614 (12 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 1–2–1–2

Key Films:
Trouble in Paradise (1932)
Ninotchka (1939)
The Shop Around the Corner (1940)
To Be or Not to Be (1942)
Heaven Can Wait (1943)



(http://imgur.com/zlxghNx.jpg)
#32 Don Hertzfeldt
Score: 7.652 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 0–1–4–1

Key Films:
Billy's Balloon (1998)
Rejected (2000)
Wisdom Teeth (2010)
It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012)
World of Tomorrow (2015)



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#31 Spike Jonze
Score: 7.654 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 1–1–1–5

Key Projects:
Being John Malkovich (1999)
Adaptation. (2002)
Where the Wild Things Are (2009)
Her (2013)
The Work of Director Spike Jonze (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directors_Label#Volume_1:_The_Work_of_Director_Spike_Jonze), which contains some of the greatest music videos ever made.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: MartinTeller on January 08, 2016, 02:28:57 PM
which contains some of the greatest music videos ever made.

Isn't this editorializing?
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 08, 2016, 02:55:03 PM
It is, but couldn't you make that claim against my choosing of the Key Films? I wrote that partly to explain the inclusion of the DVD collection and mostly because I think those videos are key to Spike Jonze career and most certainly a factor in his high ranking.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 08, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
(http://imgur.com/htIdXED.jpg)
#30 Ritwik Ghatak
Score: 7.667 (5 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–2–1–1

Key Films:
Nagarik (1952)
Ajantrik (1958)
The Cloud-Capped Star (1960)
Komal Gandhar (1961)
The Golden Thread (1965)



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#29 John Ford
Score: 7.671 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 2–3–2–2

Key Films:
Stagecoach (1939)
Young Mr. Lincoln (1939)
How Green Was My Valley (1941)
My Darling Clementine (1946)
The Searchers (1956)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)



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#28 Frank Capra
Score: 7.678 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 1–1–2–3

Key Films:
It Happened One Night (1934)
Mr. Deeds Goes to Town (1936)
You Can't Take It With You (1938)
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)
Meet John Doe (1941)
It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 08, 2016, 07:06:07 PM
Aww, Ford and Capra. <3 :)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: MartinTeller on January 08, 2016, 07:11:47 PM
Yay Ghatak!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 08, 2016, 07:43:17 PM
Aww, Ford and Capra. <3 :)

The closest of races, separated by .1, Ford has higher scores, but he's also more divisive. Only one person rated Capra less than a 6. Ford received 3 of those ratings.
I believe a Deathmatch between these two could rival the unending BTTF/DH battle.


Yay Ghatak!
During Week 9, Ghatak received only 4 Ratings, averaging in below Phil Karlson. One more high mark gave him the advantage.

Of the remaining Directors, only 2 have less than 10 Ratings. They both rank very high, and I would say deservedly so.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 08, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
Aww, Ford and Capra. <3 :)

The closest of races, separated by .1, Ford has higher scores, but he's also more divisive. Only one person rated Capra less than a 6. Ford received 3 of those ratings.
I believe a Deathmatch between these two could rival the unending BTTF/DH battle.

Don't make me choose, 1SO! :))

Very cool stats. Thanks for posting them.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 09, 2016, 09:05:50 AM
(http://imgur.com/sZ09Fb0.jpg)
#27 David Lynch
Score: 7.693 (20 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 1–3–1–6

Key Projects:
Eraserhead (1977)
Blue Velvet (1986)
Twin Peaks (1990–1991/1992/2016)
The Straight Story (1999)
Mulholland Drive (2001)



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#26 Robert Bresson
Score: 7.708 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–5–1–3

Key Films:
Diary of a Country Priest (1951)
A Man Escaped (1956)
Pickpocket (1959)
Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
Mouchette (1967)



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#25 Paul Thomas Anderson
Score: 7.714 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 1–2–4–1

Key Films:
Boogie Nights (1997)
Magnolia (1999)
Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
The Master (2012)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 09, 2016, 09:25:29 AM
This set shall be titled "in spite of Bondo's rating."
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 09, 2016, 09:51:19 AM
Had you not rated those 3, their scores would've been
Lynch: 7.947
Bresson: 8.070
PTA: 7.944

which would have placed them above the next 6 names. So one could argue their appearance this early is "because of Bondo's rating."

Of the remaining names you have Rated them
no rating - 3
10 - 0
9 - 3
8 - 5
7 - 5
6 - 1
5 - 3
4 - 3
3 - 1

To compare, Junior breaks down to this
no rating - 5
10 - 8
9 - 10
8 - 1
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Junior on January 09, 2016, 10:06:38 AM
Junior likes a lot of people.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 09, 2016, 10:09:59 AM
So one could argue their appearance this early is "because of Bondo's rating."

I have fulfilled my purpose.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 09, 2016, 12:16:09 PM
I can't tell where The Master gif starts and starts. Very mesmerizing!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 09, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
(http://imgur.com/PCq6UK7.jpg)
#24 Woody Allen

Score: 7.745 (20 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8–7: 1–4–1–3–5

Key Projects:
Bananas (1971)
Annie Hall (1977)
Manhattan (1979)
Hannah and Her Sisters (1986)
Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989)
Match Point (2005)



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#23 Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger

Score: 7.772 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 2–3–2

Key Films:
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)
A Canterbury Tale (1944)
Black Narcissus (1946)
A Matter of Life and Death (1946)
The Red Shoes (1948)
Peeping Tom (1960) [directed by Michael Powell only]



(http://imgur.com/y7p7jZA.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/oMKvDqT.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/kuoN5AH.jpg)

#22 Robert Altman

Score: 7.776 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–3–1–5

Key Films:
M*A*S*H (1970)
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971)
The Long Goodbye (1973)
Nashville (1975)
Short Cuts (1993)
Gosford Park (2001)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 09, 2016, 02:51:43 PM
I can't tell where The Master gif starts and starts. Very mesmerizing!
I remember than from a Board years ago where somebody commented it was a nearly perfect gif. I think the same is true of the one I found for Roy Andersson. (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=13595.msg824228#msg824228)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: valmz on January 09, 2016, 03:21:54 PM
I can't tell where The Master gif starts and starts. Very mesmerizing!
I can see the fade in/out!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 09, 2016, 07:13:43 PM
valmz, you eagle eyes! :D


1SO, the Roy Andersson one is excellent, and terribly creepy.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 10, 2016, 02:11:07 AM
Happy to see PTA so low. Wouldn't have thought he'd miss the top 10.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 10, 2016, 10:22:50 AM
(http://imgur.com/tqYfWm9.jpg)
#21 Wong Kar-Wai

Score: 7.861 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8–7.5–7: 0–3–1–8–2–2

Key Films:
Days of Being Wild (1990)
Chungking Express (1994)
Happy Together (1997)
In the Mood for Love (2000)
2046 (2004)



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#20 Chuck Jones

Score: 7.880 (11 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 2–3–1

Key Projects:
Duck Amuck (1953)
One Froggy Evening (1955)
What's Opera, Doc? (1957)
How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (1966)
Rikki-Tikki-Tavi (1975)



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#19 Francis Ford Coppola

Score: 7.904 (22 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 0–5–2–6

Key Films:
The Godfather (1972)
The Godfather: Part II (1974)
The Conversation (1974)
Apocalypse Now (1979)
Dracula (1992)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 10, 2016, 10:37:13 AM
Happy to see PTA so low. Wouldn't have thought he'd miss the top 10.

PTA is the 2nd most divisive director in the Top 25, with 3 Ratings of 5 and one Rating below that.
The most divisive director still to come managed to make the Top 10.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 10, 2016, 02:33:32 PM
(http://imgur.com/1OQ0tAg.jpg)
#18 Eric Rohmer

Score: 7.906 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8–7.5–7: 2–2–3–1–3

Key Films:
My Night at Maud's (1969)
Claire's Knee (1970)
Chloe in the Afternoon (1972)
Pauline at the Beach (1983)
The Green Ray (1986)
A Summer's Tale (1996)



(http://imgur.com/C4arjxe.jpg)
#17 Howard Hawks

Score: 7.910 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8–7.5–7: 3–3–1–1–4

Key Films:
Scarface (1932)
Only Angels Have Wings (1939)
His Girl Friday (1940)
The Big Sleep (1946)
Red River (1948)
Rio Bravo (1959)
El Dorado (1966)



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#16 Frederick Wiseman

Score: 7.984 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 0–1–5–3

Key Films:
Titicut Follies (1967)
High School (1968)
Welfare (1975)
Near Death (1989)
Domestic Violence (2001)
La danse (2009)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 09:05:16 AM
(http://imgur.com/tBTYhpe.jpg)
#15 Krzysztof Kieslowski

Score: 8.012 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 1–5–2–2

Key Films:
Camera Buff (1979)
A Short Film About Killing (1987)
Dekalog (1988)
A Short Film About Love (1988)
The Double Life of Veronique (1991)
Three Colours: Blue/White/Red (1993/1993/1994)



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#14 Fritz Lang

Score: 8.023 (13 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8–7: 0–5–3–4

Key Films:
Die Nibelungen: Siegfried/Kriemhild's Revenge (1924)
Metropolis (1927)
M (1931)
Fury (1936)
Scarlet Street (1945)
The Big Heat (1953)



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#13 Akira Kurosawa

Score: 8.070 (14 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 3–2–2–1

Key Films:
Rashomon (1950)
Ikiru (1952)
Seven Samurai (1954)
High and Low (1963)
Dodes'ka-den (1970)
Ran (1985)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 02:01:25 PM
(http://imgur.com/1aa2wNn.jpg)
#12 Richard Linklater

Score: 8.101 (18 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8–7.5–7: 2–4–3–3–3

Key Films:
Dazed and Confused (1993)
Before Trilogy: Sunrise/Sunset/Midnight (1995/2004/2013)
School of Rock (2003)
Bernie (2011)
Boyhood (2014)



(http://imgur.com/FsPYQl1.jpg)
#11 Ingmar Bergman

Score: 8.117 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8–7.5–7: 3–3–3–1–2

Key Films:
The Seventh Seal (1957)
Wild Strawberries (1957)
Persona (1966)
Cries & Whispers (1972)
Scenes from a Marriage (1973)
Fanny and Alexander (1982)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
Ingmar Bergman is another director where I really had to look at all sources to narrow down his 'key' films.


I'm going to be away tomorrow and won't be able to prep the Top 10. I'm not doing it to build false suspense, though it will work out that way.

Any guesses at the Top 10? I'll tell you this, it's split evenly into 5 Active and 5 Inactive.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: goodguy on January 11, 2016, 02:23:16 PM
Kurosawa < Linklater < Bergman makes me feel dazed and confused.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 03:59:23 PM
There are a few here who think Kurosawa is slightly overrated, whereas hardly anyone has a problem with Linklater. There are a handful of filmmaker titans where it's difficult to believe anyone would rate above them. Kurosawa is one of those for me. (Only one other filmmaker to come that I rated a 10.) I understand the love for Linklater, who has made a lot of great films, with a certain amount of variety over a period of three decades.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 11, 2016, 04:26:03 PM
Ingmar Bergman is another director where I really had to look at all sources to narrow down his 'key' films.


I'm going to be away tomorrow and won't be able to prep the Top 10. I'm not doing it to build false suspense, though it will work out that way.

Any guesses at the Top 10? I'll tell you this, it's split evenly into 5 Active and 5 Inactive.

Smiles of a Summer Night has to be in over Cries & Whispers. Way better film. Different to others. Earlier. More important.

Feels like Stan Brakhage is getting in unless I missed him earlier.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 11, 2016, 04:57:43 PM
Kurosawa < Linklater < Bergman makes me feel dazed and confused.

Linklater this far up is really surprising.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 11, 2016, 05:43:46 PM
Surprised Chuck Jones and Rohmer made it so high, but not displeased.

Disappointed that Kieslowski and Kurosawa didn't make it higher, but not surprised.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 06:14:43 PM
Smiles of a Summer Night has to be in over Cries & Whispers. Way better film. Different to others. Earlier. More important.
I thought about that because people come into Bergman thinking he's heavy and humorless, which Smiles of a Summer Night contradicts all by itself. But Cries & Whispers was higher rated on IMDB and TSPDT and has more votes on Bergman's board thread. According to those resources, the one that doesn't belong is Scenes from a Marriage, which I couldn't imagine leaving off.

Feels like Stan Brakhage is getting in unless I missed him earlier.
People like you and me kept Stan Brakhage from getting very high on this list. He comes in at #377


Kurosawa < Linklater < Bergman makes me feel dazed and confused.

Linklater this far up is really surprising.
There's something very agreeable about Linklater's films that's going to place him very high in a Project like this. His lack of boldness makes it hard to have a strong case against him.


I'm also disappointed about Kurosawa, but I'm sure people are disappointed that the ability to rate more negatively has eliminated Fellini, Godard and Von Trier. You know who else you're not going to see coming up? Apichatpong Weerasethakul
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: MartinTeller on January 11, 2016, 06:52:33 PM
Any guesses at the Top 10? I'll tell you this, it's split evenly into 5 Active and 5 Inactive.

Kubrick & Hitchcock for sure. Wes Anderson likely.

Oh lordy... Nolan is gonna be up there, isn't he? F'in hell.


I was pretty disgusted with the negative voting in this poll.  At times I felt like I was the only one being sane and reasonable.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on January 11, 2016, 07:01:02 PM
Any guesses at the Top 10? I'll tell you this, it's split evenly into 5 Active and 5 Inactive.

Kubrick & Hitchcock for sure. Wes Anderson likely.

I can't imagine these three not making it.

Michael Mann?
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 08:25:57 PM
#146 Christopher Nolan
(between Lukas Moodysson and Josef von Sternberg)
Score: 6.804 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8: 1–1–0–1–3


#201 Michael Mann
(between Takeshi Kitano and Leos Carax)
Score: 6.549 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8: 0–1–3



I was pretty disgusted with the negative voting in this poll.  At times I felt like I was the only one being sane and reasonable.
It was the wide range of Ratings that kept Nolan out of the Top 100. That's what I like about this system, and I think there was very little gaming. My biggest ??? was Smirnoff only using 10, 7.5, 5, 2.5 and 0. With 350 names Scoring above a 6, his method hurt a lot of Scores.

While some people end up higher and lower than you would think, I found the consistency created a lot less head-scratchers than most lists where you just submit your favorites. Edgar Wright, Xavier Dolan and Richard Linklater may seem high for newbies on a list of All Time great directors, but their work supports the placement. And it's bee interesting to see Raoul Ruiz, Ritwik Ghatak and Bιla Tarr show up. Usually, these names wouldn't have a chance.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: valmz on January 11, 2016, 09:41:55 PM
It's always strange to me to see someone with no 10s score so high. It's like saying, "We, as a group, have agreed that he's the best, even though none of us think so."

Any chance you can figure out who has the highest percentage of 10s?
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 11, 2016, 10:09:21 PM
Of the names coming up one person has four 10s and another has 5.
Spielberg has four, but he also has a 1 among other low scores.

There are 199 Ratings of 10, with twenty-seven of them in the Top 10, and 19 Ratings of 9.5.
The lowest ranked directors with a Rating of 10 are Doug Liman (#352), Curtis Hanson (#378), Mel Gibson (#549) and The Duplass Brothers (#624). All were given a 10 by smirnoff under the system I mentioned above. Excluding smiroff you will find a 10 Rating to James Cameron (#297) and for that you can thank Me. (And all you 3s, 4s and 5s can go suck an egg.)

On the flip side, the highest ranked director with a 0 Rating is Jean-Luc Godard (#266). Spielberg and Tarantino are the only names in the Top 100 with a 1 Rating. After them is Darren Aronofsky (#131)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 11, 2016, 10:27:30 PM
I like the voting system and some of the surprises it is revealing - I have no idea how Spielberg could get a 1 from anyone though.

P.S. My bet for #1 is Miyazaki.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 12, 2016, 12:57:35 AM
I was pretty disgusted with the negative voting in this poll.  At times I felt like I was the only one being sane and reasonable.

Negative is another word for "people who disagree with me."
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: goodguy on January 12, 2016, 03:35:07 AM
I don't really have a problem with the placement of Kurosawa or Bergman - it's just when someone like Linklater suddenly pops up between those two. I'm sure I contributed to it, though, but when rating them, it didn't seem as bizarre.

On the flip side, the highest ranked director with a 0 Rating is Jean-Luc Godard (#266). Spielberg and Tarantino are the only names in the Top 100 with a 1 Rating. After them is Darren Aronofsky (#131)

Well, that proves I was being reasonable with Spielberg, I didn't rate him 0.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 12, 2016, 08:46:14 AM
I guess the question is, is it "gaming" the results if I rate a director who makes me want to punch things in frustration and annoyance a zero.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 12, 2016, 09:55:07 AM
I would like to see people's lists combining Kurosawa, Bergman and Linklater. Linklater may just crack the Top 10, but he'll solidly occupy the middle, unless you've only seen the Easentials of Kurosawa and Bergman.

And to save Martin the time I will reveal he's one who did rate Linklater well below the other two.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 12, 2016, 10:26:30 AM
I've almost completed watching all of Linklater's films, and I'm one who ranked him high.  The way he plays with ideas, and combining those concepts with enjoyable characters and setting is always wonderful, if it may seem simplistic.  He's not usually a great narrator, but given all the other aspects of his films, I don't mind at all.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Jared on January 12, 2016, 11:08:02 AM
I guess the question is, is it "gaming" the results if I rate a director who makes me want to punch things in frustration and annoyance a zero.

That was kind of my thought too...I recognize that many of the people I rated lowly do things well. But if I think it all just adds up to a bunch of shitty movies my score is going to reflect that.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: MartinTeller on January 12, 2016, 11:18:06 AM
I guess the question is, is it "gaming" the results if I rate a director who makes me want to punch things in frustration and annoyance a zero.

That depends. Does the director have any redeeming qualities? Can you recognize a certain flair for the form, even if his style isn't your cup of tea? Do you have a range of frustration and annoyance, or does it just flip between "I love this!" and "punch things"?

And to save Martin the time I will reveal he's one who did rate Linklater well below the other two.

I didn't give him a zero, though. I don't recall my exact score, but it should be around 7. Wouldn't make my top 50 directors, but a decent score.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 12, 2016, 05:31:59 PM
1SO would be better suited to talk about my rating distribution since I didn't keep track. I think I had a pretty normal distribution. It wasn't love or hate.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 01:10:08 AM
Let me open with the blanket statement that I don't believe anybody was gaming the system with extreme ratings. Possibly fudging the numbers a little (which I will elaborate below) but the closest to something I would call gaming would be the smirnoff system I mentioned. The one... the only good thing about his departure is that he never rated Inactive directors, because he was always open as preferring modern films to older ones.

Bondo, you took up the banner for 'negative voting' but I know Martin wasn't referring to you. We had spoken in PM about some voting that appeared negative, but I didn't have a problem with it because it was consistent. People whose Ratings tend to run low completed the entire Project to the best of their ability, much like people whose Ratings tend to run high. So what some might see as negative voting, I see as being the other side of someone like Junior who just loves everything (except for George Lucas, Kevin Smith, Rob Zombie and Uwe Boll.)

Looking at the raw data, Bondo's average Rating was 5.67. 7 others averaged between 5.5 and 6. The most generous contributions came from Junior (7.85) and oldkid (7.54)


I guess the question is, is it "gaming" the results if I rate a director who makes me want to punch things in frustration and annoyance a zero.
That depends. Does the director have any redeeming qualities? Can you recognize a certain flair for the form, even if his style isn't your cup of tea? Do you have a range of frustration and annoyance, or does it just flip between "I love this!" and "punch things"?
I'm going to answer this with my lowest rated Directors.
Uwe Boll - .1 :I know I've seen some of at least 4 different Boll movies, but I've never watched one beginning to end because the level of incompetence is intolerable. He is a director with occasional signs of an ability to learn how to make a movie, but that is all and that's being generous.

Stan Brakhage - .7 :This is an old argument. Brakhage did something unique, but I find most of his work indistinguishable from each other. I don't understand how he decides on the length of his shorts or titles or what the point was in making so many. His longer pieces - Dog Star Man - are just as hard to watch... and so much longer. There are his two standouts - Window Water Baby Moving, The Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes - but even they are difficult to watch to completion because of Brakhage's technique.

Jean-Luc Godard - 1: I've liked a couple of Godard, but I think his main objective is to experiment on his audience with frustration and 'CINECAST! you' techniques. (I will never forgive myself for watching all of Historie(s) du cinema). And there are people who love him for this. I would say I gamed this one down a little to balance the extreme love, but my hate is genuine, and I honestly couldn't be talked into higher than 1.5

Andrzej Zulawski - 1: Thanks to goodguy, I understand what Zulawski brings to the table, but thanks to Possession (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=11349.msg708890#msg708890) I think he's a menace and I can only watch another of his films with an uneasy feeling.

Zhangke Jia - 1: There is no Director I less understand the love and acclaim for than Zhangke Jia. The filmmaking in Platform erupted aggression against Zhangke and his filmmaking style, but in my post-game I found Platform is in some Top 100s, my comments repeat a lot of what I already said about Still Life (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=10148.msg614062#msg614062), and that kind of writing about Zhangke comes with an equal and opposite reaction.

Rob Zombie - 1: Why have I seen so many Rob Zombie films? (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4759.msg756146#msg756146) I like horror, so he always arouses my curiosity. And he has his fans among critics. Usually a pretty smart bunch too. I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 01:10:29 AM
And to save Martin the time I will reveal he's one who did rate Linklater well below the other two.

I didn't give him a zero, though. I don't recall my exact score, but it should be around 7. Wouldn't make my top 50 directors, but a decent score.
It was a 6, but I wrote it because I know your list for Bergman is thorough, as is your love. You had the biggest difference between Linklater and both Bergman and Kurosawa.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 09:53:39 AM
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#10 Terrence Malick

Score: 8.162 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 4–4–3–3

Key Films:
Badlands (1973)
Days of Heaven (1978)
The Thin Red Line (1998)
The New World (2005)
The Tree of Life (2011)



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#9 Wes Anderson

Score: 8.177 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8: 1–1–4–2–4

Key Films:
Rushmore (1998)
The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
Moonrise Kingdom (2012)
The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Teproc on January 13, 2016, 10:27:13 AM
Trying to guess who the next 8 are (in whichever order) :

Stanley Kubrick
Alfred Hitchcock
Hayao Miyazaki
Ethan & Joel Coen
Charles Chaplin
Martin Scorsese

After that I don't really know, this is harder than I thought.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: valmz on January 13, 2016, 11:35:30 AM
I can't say I fully understand the justification for Zulawski with just one film. His menacing, discomforting film seemed to do its job. I would imagine his romantic comedy would make you swoon and laugh. It's certainly one of my favorites. I'm not familiar with your experience of Possession, but it's certainly not an adequate representation of the whole for so many reasons.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 01:57:34 PM
I've also seen most of On the Silver Globe. I watched more than I expected to because I really wanted to get a greater sense of Zulawski, but I didn't finish it so I never included it as one I have seen in its entirety. In my discussion with goodguy, he said that Zulawski's shouty style benefits from a theatrical experience and I can see that. Silver Globe got me to where I agree there is something to what Zulawski is doing. Like Martin comments, I can recognize a certain flair for the form, but his style is not my cup of tea. It's an off-putting variation of Jodorowsky.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 01:58:19 PM
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#8 Mike Leigh

Score: 8.211 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8–7: 3–1–3–1–3–5

Key Films:
Naked (1993)
Secrets & Lies (1996)
Topsy-Turvy (1999)
Vera Drake (2004)
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)
Another Year (2010)



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#7 Joel and Ethan Coen

Score: 8.269 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8: 4–1–2–2–5

Key Films:
Blood Simple (1984)
Miller's Crossing (1990)
Barton Fink (1991)
Fargo (1996)
The Big Lebowski (1998)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Junior on January 13, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Ah, Mike Leigh! That's a guy I forgot everybody here liked. *cue somebody coming in to say that they don't like him*
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 13, 2016, 04:56:40 PM
Wow that's a surprise.

Happy with Coens and Wes.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: sdb_1970 on January 13, 2016, 05:42:40 PM
*cue somebody coming in to say that they don't like him*

Hola!

Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 13, 2016, 06:06:33 PM
Ah, Mike Leigh!

I didn't vote on the directors project, but he would have been high on my list.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 08:05:09 PM
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#6 Martin Scorsese

Score: 8.287 (22 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8–7.5–7: 2–3–3–3–2–7

Key Films:
Mean Streets (1973)
Taxi Driver (1976)
Raging Bull (1980)
The King of Comedy (1983)
GoodFellas (1990)
The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)




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#5 Masaki Kobayashi

Score: 8.318 (9 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 1–5–1–0

Key Films:
The Human Condition (1959/1959/1961)
Harakiri (1962)
Kwaidan (1964)
Samurai Rebellion (1967)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 13, 2016, 08:14:57 PM
*cue somebody coming in to say that they don't like him*

Hola!
Leigh, Mike - 4

Decided to post the next two because Masaki Kobayashi is a very interesting addition. Unexpected? Doesn't make sense? This brings up the case of those who didn't vote. With more votes, certainly a few more people would have brought the rating down. Then again, with only 9 Ratings the lack already lowered him to 5th.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: roujin on January 13, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Godard from 4 to 1
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 13, 2016, 10:05:58 PM
Where's Best Picture winner The Departed? It's rating would be higher than The King of Comedy anywhere. And this isn't stating any of my subjective bias!

Masaki Kobayashi is a blindspot.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 14, 2016, 12:01:32 AM
The suspense!!!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 14, 2016, 12:23:32 AM
Where's Best Picture winner The Departed? It's rating would be higher than The King of Comedy anywhere. And this isn't stating any of my subjective bias!

First, I actually like debating the Key Films.

So hard to narrow a director like Scorsese down. I debated The Age of Innocence for its variety and proof of career longevity. Also Wolf of Wall Street could easily be switched to Gangs of New York. The Departed won him the Oscar, but aren't Gangs and Goodfellas more paramount examples of his skill. Departed is Scorsese soup (much like Casino being Goodfellas remixed). Tasty soup, but not hearty enough to be Key to the banquet.

The King of Comedy is generally the sleeper in his pack, like Coppola's The Conversation. It's unlike the broad strokes of his work, yet you still see some of the same obsessions coming out in a new way.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 14, 2016, 01:10:37 AM
Completely didn't expect Kobayashi.  But his films are genius.  He deserves his spot.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 14, 2016, 01:11:42 AM
Where's Best Picture winner The Departed? It's rating would be higher than The King of Comedy anywhere. And this isn't stating any of my subjective bias!

First, I actually like debating the Key Films.

So hard to narrow a director like Scorsese down. I debated The Age of Innocence for its variety and proof of career longevity. Also Wolf of Wall Street could easily be switched to Gangs of New York. The Departed won him the Oscar, but aren't Gangs and Goodfellas more paramount examples of his skill. Departed is Scorsese soup (much like Casino being Goodfellas remixed). Tasty soup, but not hearty enough to be Key to the banquet.

The King of Comedy is generally the sleeper in his pack, like Coppola's The Conversation. It's unlike the broad strokes of his work, yet you still see some of the same obsessions coming out in a new way.

I could (and just about did) use those terms to have Smiles of a Summer Night in over Cries & Whispers and was rebuffed with weaker facts than what The Departed has backing it up.

It's also way better than Gangs, both as a procedural and as a thriller. And it has star power left and right which Scorsese handles with aplomb.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Teproc on January 14, 2016, 08:51:56 AM
Love that number 1 !

But no Kubrick in the top 100 at all ? I didn't get the feeling he was particularly disliked in here, so that's pretty surprising.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 14, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
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#4 Stanley Kubrick

Score: 8.390 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 3–2–2–4

Key Films:
The Killing (1956)
Paths of Glory (1957)
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
The Shining (1980)



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#3 Satyajit Ray

Score: 8.428 (9 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 1–1–4–1

Key Films:
Apu Trilogy: Pather Panchali (1955), Aparajito (1956), The World of Apu (1959)
The Big City (1963)
Charulata (1964)
The Adversary (1970)
Company Limited (1972)
Distant Thunder (1973)
The Middleman (1976)



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#2 Alfred Hitchcock

Score: 8.656 (15 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8: 4–1–5–0

Key Films:
The 39 Steps (1935)
Notorious (1946)
Rear Window (1954)
Vertigo (1958)
North by Northwest (1959)
Psycho (1960)



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#1 Hayao Miyazaki

Score: 8.984 (20 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 5–7–1–4

Key Films:
My Neighbor Totoro (1988)
Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)
Princess Mononoke (1997)
Spirited Away (2001)
The Wind Rises (2013)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: JakeIsntFake on January 14, 2016, 10:28:11 AM
Oooo. It's nice to see a top list that's unique. Nice work, 1SO.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 14, 2016, 10:56:43 AM
Love it! I'll be using this list to fill in some big gaps in my viewing.

Thanks for putting this together, 1SO!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: chardy999 on January 14, 2016, 05:10:28 PM
Great work, 1SO :)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 14, 2016, 06:23:25 PM
Quite an undertaking, 1SO! I've thoroughly enjoyed reading through the results.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: oldkid on January 14, 2016, 06:44:03 PM
Catbus at the top!
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on January 14, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
Man, I really need to see some Miyazaki.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 14, 2016, 11:57:19 PM
All this data I've been dying to share. It's fun, and if it leads people to watch some films by these Directors then that's a Win.

I'm working on a Top 50 Most Divisive right now. I'm raising the minimum vote threshold for that one so we don't have a person at the top who's only there because 2 people love them and the other 2 voters don't.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - THE BOTTOM TWENTY
Post by: 1SO on January 15, 2016, 09:55:29 PM
Next I'll post the 20 Directors who landed at the bottom.


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#20 Alex de la Iglesia

Score: 4.066 (6 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–0–2–0–2

Key Films:
The Day of the Beast (1995)
The Last Circus (2010)
Witching and Bitching (2013)



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#19 Kevin Smith

Score: 4.031 (17 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 4–3–2–1–1

Key Films:
Clerks (1994)
Chasing Amy (1997)
Dogma (1999)

but also …

Jersey Girl (2004)
Cop Out (2010)
Tusk (2014)



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#18 Peter Berg

Score: 4.018 (11 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 0–2–4–0–3

Key Films:
The Rundown (2003)
Friday Night Lights (2004)

but also …

Very Bad Things (1998)
Hancock (2008)
Battleship (2012)



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#17 Simon West

Score: 4.000 (9 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–3.5–4–5: 0–1–2–1–2–1

Key Films:
Con Air (1997)
The General's Daughter (1999)
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001)
The Expendables 2 (2012)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - THE BOTTOM TWENTY
Post by: 1SO on January 16, 2016, 09:14:06 AM
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#16 Jon M. Chu

Score: 3.979 (5 Ratings)
Rated 1-2-3-4-5: 0-0-1-2-2

Key Films:
Step Up 3D (2010)
Justin Bieber: Never Say Never (2011)
G.I. Joe: Retaliation (2013)
Jem and the Holograms (2015)



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#15 George Lucas

Score: 3.958 (21 Ratings)
Rated 1-2-2.5-3-4-5: 3-1-1-3-7-3

Key Films:
THX 1138 (1971)
American Graffiti (1973)
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)

but also…

The Star Wars Prequels (1999/2002/2005)



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#14 Jake Kasdan

Score: 3.945 (8 Ratings)
Rated 1.5-2-3-4-5: 2-0-2-1-1

Key Films:
Zero Effect (1998)
Orange County (2002)
Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (2007)
Bad Teacher (2011)
Sex Tape (2014)



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#13 Brett Ratner

Score: 3.902 (16 Ratings)
Rated .5-1-2-3-4-5: 1-2-2-0-5-3

Key Films:
Rush Hour Trilogy (1998/2001/2007)
The Family Man (2000)
Red Dragon (2002)
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - THE BOTTOM TWENTY
Post by: 1SO on January 16, 2016, 02:44:24 PM
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#12 Jon Turteltaub

Score: 3.881 (11 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 0–3–2–2–2

Key Films:
Cool Runnings (1993)
While You Were Sleeping (1995)

but also…

3 Ninjas (1992)
National Treasure (2004)
National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007)
The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)



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#11 Renny Harlin

Score: 3.809 (13 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–2–3–2–3

Key Films:
Cliffhanger (1993)
Cutthroat Island (1995)
Deep Blue Sea (1999)
Driven (2001)



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#10 Dennis Dugan

Score: 3.801 (9 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–1–3–1–0

Key Films:
Problem Child (1990)
Big Daddy (1999)
I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry (2007)
You Don't Mess with the Zohan (2008)
Grown Ups (2010)/ Grown Ups 2 (2013)
Jack and Jill (2011)



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#9 Andrew Bergman

Score: 3.785 (5 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–2.5–3–4–5: 0–0–1–1–1–2

Key Films:
The Freshman (1990)
Honeymoon in Vegas (1992)
Striptease (1996)
Isn't She Great (2000)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Junior on January 16, 2016, 03:15:54 PM
I can only assume nobody else here has seen Deep Blue Sea.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 16, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
Or, While You were Sleeping. :(
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 16, 2016, 05:06:05 PM
I can only assume nobody else here has seen Deep Blue Sea.

Or Cliffhanger
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 16, 2016, 06:42:29 PM
or Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope ?

I guess the thought it that the bad far outweighs the good. I used to be in the minority for NOT thinking Andrew Bergman is funny, but I rated him the highest. Is that because I didn't watch Striptease?
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 16, 2016, 09:17:26 PM
or Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope ?

I guess the thought it that the bad far outweighs the good. I used to be in the minority for NOT thinking Andrew Bergman is funny, but I rated him the highest. Is that because I didn't watch Striptease?

I started writing something about Lucas three or four times and then gave up. I'll just say he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the bottom.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on January 17, 2016, 12:52:41 AM
Or, While You were Sleeping. :(
Or Cliffhanger

Seen both, and still enjoy them. I own While You were Sleeping :)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - THE BOTTOM TWENTY
Post by: 1SO on January 17, 2016, 09:39:45 AM
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#8 Alan Rudolph

Score: 3.740 (4 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–2.5–3–4–5: 0–0–1–1–1–0

Key Films:
Trouble in Mind (1985)
Mortal Thoughts (1991)
Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle (1994)
Breakfast of Champions (1999)
The Secret Lives of Dentists (2002)



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#7 Rob Zombie

Score: 3.644 (7 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–0–2–1–3

Key Films:
House of 1000 Corpses (2003)
The Devil's Rejects (2005)
Halloween (2007)
Halloween II (2009)
The Lords of Salem (2012)



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#6 Dusan Makavejev

Score: 3.620 (4 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–0–0–1–2

Key Films:
WR: Mysteries of the Organism (1971)
Sweet Movie (1974)
Montenegro (1981)
The Coca-Cola Kid (1985)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - THE BOTTOM TWENTY
Post by: 1SO on January 17, 2016, 10:40:10 AM
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#5 Michael Bay

Score: 3.460 (17 Ratings)
Vote Distribution
.5     1     1.5     2     2.5     3     4     4.5     5
1      0      1      2     1      5      3      1      1       
Key Films:
Bad Boys (1995)/ Bad Boys II (2003)
The Rock (1996)
Armageddon (1998)
Pearl Harbor (2001)
The Island (2005)
Transformers Series (2007/2009/2011/2014/2017)



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#4 Edward Burns

Score: 3.378 (4 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–0–1–1–0

Key Films:
The Brothers McMullen (1995)
She's the One (1996)
No Looking Back (1998)
Sidewalks of New York (2001)
Nice Guy Johnny (2010)



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#3 Dominic Sena

Score: 3.620 (6 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 0–0–4–2–0

Key Films:
Kalifornia (1993)
Gone in Sixty Seconds (2000)
Swordfish (2001)
Season of the Witch (2011)[/td][/tr][/table]
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - 1SO vs. The Bottom Twenty
Post by: 1SO on January 17, 2016, 10:51:25 AM
For the Record, here is my Ranked List of the Bottom Twenty:

1. Alex de la Iglesia - 8
2. George Lucas - 7
3. Jon Turteltaub - 5.6
4. Andrew Bergman - 5
5. Alan Rudolph - 4
6. Jake Kasdan - 4
7. Edward Burns - 4
8. Dusan Makavejev - 4
9. Simon West 3.8
10. Jon M. Chu 3.5
11. Michael Bay - 3
12. Peter Berg - 3
13. Dominic Sena - 3
14. Renny Harlin - 3
15. Dennis Dugan - 3
16. Kevin Smith - 2
17. #2 (To Be Revealed) - 2
18. Brett Ratner - 2
19. Rob Zombie - 1
20. #1 (To Be Revealed) - 0.1
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - THE BOTTOM TWENTY
Post by: 1SO on January 17, 2016, 07:09:15 PM
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#2 Jared Hess

Score: 2.602 (6 Ratings)
Rated 1–2–3–4–5: 1–2–1–2–0

Key Films:
Napoleon Dynamite (2004)
Nacho Libre (2006)
Gentlemen Broncos (2009)



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#1 Uwe Boll

Score: 0.829 (6 Ratings)
Rated 0–1–2–3: 3–2–0–1

Key Films:
House of the Dead (2003)
Alone in the Dark (2005)
BloodRayne (2005)
In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (2007)
Postal (2007)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 17, 2016, 07:58:56 PM
Least surprising #1 ever?

Jared Hess at #2? His movies seem so innocuous. Hard to imagine people even caring enough to rate him so low.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Sandy on January 17, 2016, 08:10:09 PM
Or, While You were Sleeping. :(
Or Cliffhanger

Seen both, and still enjoy them. I own While You were Sleeping :)

You're a good man, Dave! :)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: 1SO on January 17, 2016, 10:17:03 PM
Jared Hess at #2? His movies seem so innocuous. Hard to imagine people even caring enough to rate him so low.
I would say that about Andrew Bergman or Edward Burns, but Hess is painfully unfunny. Napoleon Dynamite was a 'love it' or 'hate it' film. I was in the 'hate it' group but that one has fans. I went to an advance screening of Nacho Libre because I liked the idea and thought Jack Black would work good with this director. It was one of the worst recent comedies I've seen, with one sort-of laugh and a lot of desperate attempts.

You would think that would be the end, but I was on an airline flight where Gentleman Broncos was an option. I heard Jemaine Clement was good in it and it has Sam Rockwell, who's never bad. Plus the surreal image of his riding a flying deer that fires rockets made it a good pick when trapped on an airplane. Cut to the end, I've seen 3 entire films by Jared Hess and they all suck.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: philip918 on January 17, 2016, 10:23:42 PM
I do think you should have put Alan Smithee as number one. At least for a day or two. :)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: colonel_mexico on January 17, 2016, 10:51:18 PM
Man GENTLEMAN BRONCOS is great, NAPOLEON DYNAMITE is even greater, I love NACHO LIBRE a whole lot (maybe it's the Mexican thing that 1SO doesn't get).  But the further apart 1SO's and I's taste get the more I feel like I'm not becoming a pretentious movie snob.  Not saying 1SO is or anything, just his educated taste is something I don't get.  Obviously in the case of Hess not many likes at all lol.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: Bondo on January 17, 2016, 11:16:20 PM
I've only seen the one film so I didn't vote for Hess, but I didn't like Napoleon Dynamite.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: chardy999 on January 19, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
Dennis Dugan seems unrateable to me.

Happy Gilmore is in my Top 100, but don't much like the rest of his stuff but it has little to do with direction. Happy Gilmore, like the rest of Adam Sandler films, is good or bad based upon about 60% Adam Sandler, 20% the other cast, 20% the writing.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: 1SO on January 19, 2016, 08:24:52 PM
Among the Dennis Dugan filmography is a fascinating film called Brain Donors. It's a modern day attempt at a Marx Bros. film with John Turturro as Groucho. I laughed a lot, and have seen the movie many times.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 03, 2016, 02:14:27 AM
1SO you've done an incredible job here. Are the key works ranked according to forum preference ?
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 03, 2016, 02:32:50 AM
Had you not rated those 3, their scores would've been
PTA: 7.944

which would have placed them above the next 6 names. So one could argue their appearance this early is "because of Bondo's rating."

I'm not speaking to Bondo anymore.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: 1SO on March 03, 2016, 02:00:58 PM
1SO you've done an incredible job here. Are the key works ranked according to forum preference ?

Thank you. While I wish more people had participated, we still ended up with some interesting lists.

The Key Films are a combination of IMDB Ratings, TSPDT Director pages and Filmspotting Director Threads. I try to find a spread of films that cover a director's entire career (like with Ozu), but sometimes their key output is compressed in a small period of time (like Douglas Sirk).
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 03, 2016, 07:42:12 PM
1SO you've done an incredible job here. Are the key works ranked according to forum preference ?

Thank you. While I wish more people had participated, we still ended up with some interesting lists.

Yeah... :-[

Sorry for dropping off like that at some point. In my defense though, I was getting to not being able to vote for anyone anymore.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: oldkid on March 03, 2016, 07:50:48 PM
It was a huge project, and I'm pleased with as many people participated as did.  1SO, of course, but in a lot of work, but so did everyone who voted for all the directors they knew.  As did Martin and the others who posted the many directors threads. It is one of the great Filmspotting accomplishments.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
Post by: maρana on March 03, 2016, 09:06:15 PM
Man GENTLEMAN BRONCOS is great, NAPOLEON DYNAMITE is even greater, I love NACHO LIBRE a whole lot
I liked them too.  8)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: 1SO the 2nd on March 03, 2016, 10:55:41 PM
Um... wow, oldkid. Thanks. I always saw the original Ratings Project as one of the great Filmspotting accomplishments. This was a typical sequel.
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on March 03, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
1SO it is like you have had a Multiplicity event :)
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 04, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
Um... wow, oldkid. Thanks. I always saw the original Ratings Project as one of the great Filmspotting accomplishments. This was a typical sequel.

Like Empire Strikes Back sequel or Temple of Doom sequel ?
Title: Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - Top 100 Directors + The Bottom 20
Post by: 1SO the 2nd on March 04, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
More like Matrix: Reloaded. Not as much of a surprise as its predecessor, but not without some good qualities of its own.