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Title: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 10, 2018, 03:32:40 PM
This comes from an article on Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/pictures/film-directors-without-a-single-bad-movie?ref=hp) which (despite the title) lists 29 Directors who have made at least five films since 1980 who have received critical acclaim for every single film they ever directed. In other words, they've never received anything but a green Metascore for one of their features.

Each Filmspotter is allowed to remove ONE name from the list and we must learn to live with the rest. So choose wisely.

J.J. Abrams - Removed by roujin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889852#msg889852)
Paul Thomas Anderson Removed by smirnoff (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889684#msg889684)
Wes Anderson Removed by Dave the Necrobumper (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889703#msg889703)
Jacques Audiard Removed by AliceGuyBlache (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889946#msg889946)
Ramin Bahrani
Noah Baumbach Removed by Jeff Schroeck (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889678#msg889678)
Bong Joon-ho Removed by Same the Cinema Snob (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889897#msg889897)
Andrew Bujalski Removed by MartinTeller (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889700#msg889700)
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Sofia Coppola Removed by jswysin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg890083#msg890083)
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
Asghar Farhadi
Bahman Ghobadi
Todd Haynes
Nicole Holofcener
Jia Zhangke
Pablo Larraín
Mike Leigh Removed by Antares (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889744#msg889744)
Guy Maddin Removed by oldkid (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889702#msg889702)
Hayao Miyazaki
Jeff Nichols
Alexander Payne Removed by pixote (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889730#msg889730)
Kelly Reichardt
Martin Scorsese Removed by DarkeningHumour (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889708#msg889708)
Quentin Tarantino  Removed by Monty (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889674#msg889674)
Pablo Trapero Removed by Teproc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889706#msg889706)
Denis Villeneuve Removed by Bondo (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889911#msg889911)
Ben Wheatley Removed by 1SO (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889695#msg889695)
Edgar Wright
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Monty on June 10, 2018, 04:40:37 PM
Can I remove Tarantino for 'The Hateful Eight' for it's blatant racist and sexist overtones...I just didn't like that movie at all.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 10, 2018, 05:35:35 PM
Monty strikes the first blow. I'm debating between a couple of choices. Hoping somebody narrows down my selection. Also never heard of a couple of names. Will probably add them to the Directors Sub-Board.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on June 10, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
I'd go with Noah Baumbach. I've seen four, and love three of them, but I thought Frances Ha had nothing interesting going for it at all.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 10, 2018, 06:31:50 PM
Seems like an impulsive call, but I'll cross him off.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 10, 2018, 10:50:53 PM
Every director on this list has made a bad movie as far as I'm concerned. Even Mike Leigh. Mr. Turner was a complete bore, and with his upcoming "Peterloo" it seems like his fascination with 19th century goings-on continues. I'm still waiting for his stregths as a domestic drama director to really show themselves in another setting. Topsy Turvy is alright.

I'll say PTA though.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: pixote on June 10, 2018, 11:07:26 PM
I'll say PTA though.

For which movie(s) in particular?

pixote
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 10, 2018, 11:25:33 PM
Every director on this list has made a bad movie as far as I'm concerned.
I agree, which is what makes only getting to remove one a decision to be carefully considered. There are 2 directors I know nothing about, which makes it likely they will make it to the end.

My two front runners were Jia Zhangke and Andrew Bujalski. I've seen two films from Zhangke and hated them both. Bujalski I've only seen Computer Chess, which is a film that if I could slap it I would probably never stop until I was sure it was dead. However, I feel that's not enough to make my decision on. I haven't seen enough to strike them from the list.

Which is why I'm removing Ben Wheatley. I've seen all his features because Kill List is one of the best from this decade. Sightseers is very funny and I defended the acid trip A Field in England. Since then there's been High Rise, which is technically interesting but increasingly incomprehensible as it goes along and then Free Fire, a colossal waste of an All Star ensemble's time and talent. Nobody who makes Free Fire should be part of this group.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: MartinTeller on June 10, 2018, 11:27:49 PM
I'll take off Bahman Ghobadi for A Time for Drunken Horses but I really hope someone else tosses Andrew Bujalski out of here. Funny Ha Ha and Mutual Appreciation are both intensely obnoxious films. (I rather enjoyed Computer Chess though)

I reckon Guy Maddin isn't gonna last long around here.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 10, 2018, 11:32:05 PM
I reckon Guy Maddin isn't gonna last long around here.
I can't tell because you only get to remove one. (I think of it as the Bondo Clause.) I do wonder if by naming him you've put a target on his back.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 11, 2018, 12:24:03 AM
I'll say PTA though.

For which movie(s) in particular?

pixote

Everything up to Boogie Nights I enjoyed. Everything After Boogie Nights I could do without. I skipped Inherent Vice, knowing instinctively that I would absolutely hate it. But I'll say Phantom Thread was probably the worst of all the experiences I had.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: MartinTeller on June 11, 2018, 12:24:57 AM
I changed my mind, I’d rather get rid of Bujalski. Is it too late to change my pick?
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: don s. on June 11, 2018, 12:32:32 AM
Of the directors I have sufficient familiarity with, there's one that jumps out at me as having created a recent film that I actively disliked. But he's such a fat, obvious target that I'll let some other dimestore contrarian take him out.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: oldkid on June 11, 2018, 12:40:44 AM
I was going to take out Andrew Bujalski because Computer Chess is just dull and self-important without being in any way entertaining, but I guess Martin beat me to it.

So I'm going to fulfill Martin's prophecy and take out Guy Maddin.  He's interesting in short spurts, but his feature-length films are too personal and full of dull weirdness to deal with.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on June 11, 2018, 12:53:22 AM
I tossed up between Sofia Coppola and Wes Anderson. Sofia is just meh. Wes made The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou , The Darjeeling Limited, and Fantastic Mr. Fox. It is a bullet for Mr Wes Anderson.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Teproc on June 11, 2018, 04:01:34 AM
I guess the worst film I've seen by all of these is Midnight Special, so I'll take out Jeff Nichols.

Did not expect Hateful Eight to be the film doing Tarantino in.

Edit: Wait, I hadn't seen Pablo Trapero. As said elsewhere I despise The Clan, so he's out, and Nichols survives.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 11, 2018, 05:22:11 AM
I'll say PTA though.

I want you to know you hurt me.

I tossed up between Sofia Coppola and Wes Anderson. Sofia is just meh. Wes made The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou , The Darjeeling Limited, and Fantastic Mr. Fox. It is a bullet for Mr Wes Anderson.

Oh Dave, you too?

Anyone even looks at Miyazaki I'll cut them.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 11, 2018, 05:25:36 AM
I want to hurt the world like it hurt me, so I'll dump Scorsese in a ditch with a bullet hole in his head. He deserves it I guess, he made Silence and Mean Streets.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on June 11, 2018, 07:31:20 AM
I tossed up between Sofia Coppola and Wes Anderson. Sofia is just meh. Wes made The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou , The Darjeeling Limited, and Fantastic Mr. Fox. It is a bullet for Mr Wes Anderson.

Oh Dave, you too?

Anyone even looks at Miyazaki I'll cut them.

Sorry, but Wes has made bad movies, he has to get cut.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 11, 2018, 08:19:44 AM
I'll agree that Bottle Rocket is not great, or even average/mediocre. But none of the others are remotely bad.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 09:13:44 AM
I changed my mind, I’d rather get rid of Bujalski. Is it too late to change my pick?
;D
This move both removed Guy Maddin and made it very likely that Bahman Ghobadi will survive to the end.


Anyone even looks at Miyazaki I'll cut them.
Says the person who then knifes Scorsese, the 2nd highest ranked living director in the Director Ratings Project.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 09:17:53 AM
After one day, here are the 20 remaining Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie:
J.J. Abrams
Jacques Audiard
Ramin Bahrani
Bong Joon-ho
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Sofia Coppola
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
Asghar Farhadi
Bahman Ghobadi
Todd Haynes
Nicole Holofcener
Jia Zhangke
Pablo Larraín
Mike Leigh
Hayao Miyazaki
Jeff Nichols
Alexander Payne
Kelly Reichardt
Denis Villeneuve
Edgar Wright


And here are the Directors who don't deserve to be on the list:
Paul Thomas Anderson - Removed by smirnoff (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889684#msg889684)
Wes Anderson - Removed by Dave the Necrobumper (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889703#msg889703)
Noah Baumbach - Removed by Jeff Schroeck (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889678#msg889678)
Andrew Bujalski - Removed by MartinTeller (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889700#msg889700)
Guy Maddin - Removed by oldkid (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889702#msg889702)
Martin Scorsese - Removed by DarkeningHumour (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889708#msg889708)
Quentin Tarantino - Removed by Monty (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889674#msg889674)
Pablo Trapero - Removed by Teproc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889706#msg889706)
Ben Wheatley - Removed by 1SO (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889695#msg889695)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: roujin on June 11, 2018, 10:36:37 AM
I would take out 8 of those.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: oldkid on June 11, 2018, 11:18:14 AM

Anyone even looks at Miyazaki I'll cut them.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ir80GuFHp34/VH3CdFApcdI/AAAAAAAANUM/heAT6g5R6Rs/s1600/porco-rosso-still.jpg)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 11, 2018, 11:22:09 AM
I guess the worst film I've seen by all of these is Midnight Special, so I'll take out Jeff Nichols.
I almost scratched him off for the same reason.

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Wait, I hadn't seen Pablo Trapero. As said elsewhere I despise The Clan, so he's out, and Nichols survives.
Doh!

I'll say PTA though.
I want you to know you hurt me.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zpx9R3L.gif)

If it wasn't me, it might've been Bondo. :)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 11:34:30 AM
I would take out 8 of those.
But when you can only choose one it gets tough.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: MartinTeller on June 11, 2018, 11:55:46 AM
I changed my mind, I’d rather get rid of Bujalski. Is it too late to change my pick?
;D
This move both removed Guy Maddin and made it very likely that Bahman Ghobadi will survive to the end.

I know... I'm fully kicking myself. Should've kept my damn mouth shut.

This is a fun way to do this, but I feel like a more representative way would be a poll where people vote on which directors they think have made bad* films. It still elevates more obscure directors like Ghobadi but at least it doesn't make us all look like a bunch of Wes Anderson haters.

* I think it's important in this case to emphasize that "bad" is fully subjective and thus avoid endless back-and-forth over what is "objectively" bad. We're just talking about opinions here.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: pixote on June 11, 2018, 12:29:11 PM
I suspect that a few of these directors, though they technically have yet to make a bad movie, really have yet to make a good one either.

pioxte
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: pixote on June 11, 2018, 12:59:42 PM
J.J. Abrams - Star Trek and Force Awakens are on the fringe of bad
Jacques Audiard - No complaints but also not must-see filmmaking
Ramin Bahrani - I didn't care for Goodbye Solo at all
Bong Joon-ho - I've seen shocking few of his movies, considering how much I liked Memories of Murder
Nuri Bilge Ceylan - Climates didn't work for me; Distant, though an improvement, didn't make me seek out more
Sofia Coppola - Another director I've seen shockingly few films from
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne - I consider Lorna's Silence a bad film
Asghar Farhadi - So far, so good
Bahman Ghobadi - I liked A Time for Drunken Horses more than Turtles Can Fly, though even the latter was innocuous
Todd Haynes - I have been afraid to revisit Safe for fear that my supposed hatred of it will now seem embarrassing
Nicole Holofcener - Lovely & Amazing made me want to hurt myself
Jia Zhangke - Pickpocket isn't a good film, but for the purposes of this exercise, it seems weird to penalize a director for such an early work
Pablo Larraín - Jackie was passable, though I'm not convinced Larrain has made a good enough film to be considered here
Mike Leigh - I'm pretty sure Leigh has made some bad films, but I can't yet tell you what they are
Hayao Miyazaki - My animation marathon hasn't yet uncovered a bad film by film
Jeff Nichols - Loving is pretty awful
Kelly Reichardt - Wendy and Lucy is on the cusp of bad
Denis Villeneuve - Blade Runner 2046 disappointed me
Edgar Wright - Baby Driver disappointment me

Holofcener is responsible for probably the worst film I've seen from this crop, with Nichols close behind, but Alexander Payne has made nothing but bad films, from what I can tell, so he needs to go.

pixote
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 11, 2018, 01:02:53 PM
How is the animation marathon going btw?
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
This is a fun way to do this, but I feel like a more representative way would be a poll where people vote on which directors they think have made bad* films. It still elevates more obscure directors like Ghobadi but at least it doesn't make us all look like a bunch of Wes Anderson haters.
That's why I thought of putting it in the form of a game and not a project. I figured the cinema cows would be easy targets because of their high profiles. If not for Following eliminating him from the list there would probably be a race to see who would take out Christopher Nolan first. That's what makes it more likely that the obscure names will survive, unless they get selected for the good of the group. (I wonder if J.J. Abrams will survive because he falls squarely in the middle, or if he's on the chopping block because he's one of the most well known among the survivors.) The number also seemed right for the number of active members we have, with the small hope of possibly drawing out a few names that don't post much.

I have a couple of more similar games in mind, but this was the easiest to figure out and the one I was most excited to see play out. The others should have a more positive slant.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 01:37:53 PM
Holofcener is responsible for probably the worst film I've seen from this crop, with Nichols close behind, but Alexander Payne has made nothing but bad films, from what I can tell, so he needs to go.

pixote
I was surprised to see Alexander Payne in this group. I thought all the critics hated Downsizing, but it's a 63 on Metacritic with 26 Positive reviews, 19 mixed and only 3 negative.


Anyways, Payne is eliminated. This is becoming like Ten Little Indians.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: pixote on June 11, 2018, 02:09:53 PM
How is the animation marathon going btw?

All my marathons hit a snag the last couple months, but the animation one was recently reinvigorated by a weekend marathon of some wartime Disney shorts. Hopefully my forthcoming reviews capture that interest. Then I have a bit more historical catch-up to do (Russian animated shorts, mostly) before getting back to the heart of the chronological matter in the mid-to-late 1980s (The Brave Little Toaster, The Little Mermaid, Kiki's Delivery Service). Really excited to get to that point.

I'm also struggling to figure out whether I should reread Watership Down before watching the 1978 movie.

pixote
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: oldkid on June 11, 2018, 02:37:28 PM
How is the animation marathon going btw?

I'm also struggling to figure out whether I should reread Watership Down before watching the 1978 movie.

pixote

I'd highly recommend watching the film before re-reading the novel.  The two have different tones and different emphases, and I think that the powerful detail of the novel would cause one to dismiss the power that exists in the less-detailed film.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Antares on June 11, 2018, 02:43:37 PM
I'll say PTA though.

For which movie(s) in particular?

pixote

Everything up to Boogie Nights I enjoyed. Everything After Boogie Nights I could do without. I skipped Inherent Vice, knowing instinctively that I would absolutely hate it. But I'll say Phantom Thread was probably the worst of all the experiences I had.

Worse than The Master? I agree that The Phantom Thread was an exercise in futility, but The Master sucked shit through a straw.

And Smirnoff, I'm taking Mike Leigh off, for Happy Go Lucky. What a crapfest that film was.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Antares on June 11, 2018, 02:50:27 PM
If not for Following eliminating him from the list there would probably be a race to see who would take out Christopher Nolan first.

Without a doubt, it would have been me.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 11, 2018, 03:05:24 PM
Worse than The Master? I agree that The Phantom Thread was an exercise in futility, but The Master sucked shit through a straw.

Same same really. You won't get an argument from me. :)

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And Smirnoff, I'm taking Mike Leigh off, for Happy Go Lucky. What a crapfest that film was.

(https://i.imgur.com/xSnL0eq.gif)

I love Happy-Go-Lucky!
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Mike Leigh... gone.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Teproc on June 11, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
Assuming this ends before Everybody Knows makes it way to American shores (I don't think it's particularly bad, but it seems to generally be agreed upon as Farhadi's weakst film), I predict a Miyazaki v Farhadi finals, though I suppose Bahrani and Ghobadi could get by on obscurity. Pretty surprised Abrams and Coppola survived this far.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: oldkid on June 11, 2018, 06:47:33 PM
Mike Leigh... gone.

This game isn't fun anymore. :(
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 11, 2018, 08:02:31 PM
I predict a Miyazaki v Farhadi finals, though I suppose Bahrani and Ghobadi could get by on obscurity.

I think that's it, and why Miyazaki is in danger. Heck, even I considered picking Miyazaki for The Wind Rises.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Sandy on June 11, 2018, 09:07:16 PM
I love Happy-Go-Lucky!

Me too. (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=9536.msg729540#msg729540) :'(
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 11, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
I love Happy-Go-Lucky!

Me too. (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=9536.msg729540#msg729540) :'(

So far 5 directors were eliminated for movies I like, but that's built into the game. These are filmmakers who overall have a lot of love.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: MartinTeller on June 11, 2018, 11:34:04 PM
If I was gonna ding Mike Leigh, it'd be for Happy-Go-Lucky and High Hopes. Both unpleasant experiences.

(also, after HGL and The Shape of Water, I might be ready to call Sally Hawkins overrated)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 12, 2018, 03:40:42 AM
Sally Hawkins is a treasure, and The Shape of Water is the best evidence of it we have.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 13, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
3 Days Later and until someone else decides to play these are the Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie:
J.J. Abrams
Jacques Audiard
Ramin Bahrani
Bong Joon-ho
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Sofia Coppola
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
Asghar Farhadi
Bahman Ghobadi
Todd Haynes
Nicole Holofcener
Jia Zhangke
Pablo Larraín
Hayao Miyazaki
Jeff Nichols
Kelly Reichardt
Denis Villeneuve
Edgar Wright


And here are the Directors who don't deserve to be on the list:
Paul Thomas Anderson - Removed by smirnoff (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889684#msg889684)
Wes Anderson - Removed by Dave the Necrobumper (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889703#msg889703)
Noah Baumbach - Removed by Jeff Schroeck (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889678#msg889678)
Andrew Bujalski - Removed by MartinTeller (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889700#msg889700)
Mike Leigh - Removed by Antares (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889744#msg889744)
Guy Maddin - Removed by oldkid (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889702#msg889702)
Alexander Payne - Removed by pixote (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889730#msg889730)
Martin Scorsese - Removed by DarkeningHumour (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889708#msg889708)
Quentin Tarantino - Removed by Monty (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889674#msg889674)
Pablo Trapero - Removed by Teproc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889706#msg889706)
Ben Wheatley - Removed by 1SO (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889695#msg889695)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: roujin on June 13, 2018, 04:23:33 PM
I'll remove J.J. Abrams. He has gotten close to a good movie exactly once - Super 8.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 13, 2018, 05:26:44 PM
Done. (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889668#msg889668)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 13, 2018, 11:09:02 PM
I'll remove J.J. Abrams. He has gotten close to a good movie exactly once - Super 8.

The power of #TeamElle

FLY is weighing his options, just unsure if I want to play the waiting game for Everybody Knows to release or if I should take down that overrated guy straight away. Miyazaki, despite being a master, also has a number of very notable misses, so he's definitely in contention as well. And as far as recent hot names go, Villeneuve has yet to make anything good. Still need to see one of them though.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 14, 2018, 08:19:25 AM
I'm surprised Bong Joon-ho is still on this list. The Host is probably the closest I've come to liking his films. I thought both Snowpiercer and Okja were rather bad.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 14, 2018, 08:36:39 AM
You’ve still got an elimination.. Do you want to make it official?
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Bondo on June 14, 2018, 06:17:37 PM
I'll say PTA though.
I want you to know you hurt me.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zpx9R3L.gif)

If it wasn't me, it might've been Bondo. :)

Yeah, I'm sure if I had been paying attention this would have been priority #1.

Anyway, given the current stock, I'm going with Denis Villeneuve because Prisoners was a vile piece of crap.

The Dardennes were mostly saved because Liege is just a wonderful city.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Teproc on June 14, 2018, 07:41:19 PM
Forgot about Prisoners, that does deserve an elimination.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 14, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
You’ve still got an elimination.. Do you want to make it official?
Sure. Asian cinema is overrated anyway, right?  :P
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jdc on June 14, 2018, 08:56:22 PM
Just found this thread and feel like I am being punched over and over :P
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Bondo on June 14, 2018, 09:23:55 PM
I'd be real hard pressed to think of any of my favorite filmmakers who haven't made a bad movie. Like, I guess Steve McQueen and John Cameron Mitchell, each of whom I've seen only three films from? So it's hard for me to get too beaten down by anything in this thread.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 15, 2018, 12:47:08 AM
Two more names gone. We are down to 15.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Will on June 15, 2018, 04:09:29 AM
I'm requesting Audiard. A PROPHET is great. RUST & BONE becomes a laborious melodrama. DHEEPAN becomes a laborious action thriller. THE SISTERS BROTHERS looks up my alley, but I have no faith in him as a director.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Will on June 15, 2018, 04:11:37 AM
I hope someone takes Edgar Wright off. It was tempting, if only for BABY DRIVER.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 15, 2018, 07:59:45 PM
Baby Driver had me considering it also.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 15, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Been a busy day but Jacques Audiard has been crossed off.


I also was thinking Baby Driver would doom Wright. I can go through the remaining directors and name a film that should put them in jeopardy, but nothing seems as popular a strike against as this.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 16, 2018, 10:37:36 AM
Am I the only one around here who really liked Baby Driver?
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: oldkid on June 16, 2018, 10:40:08 AM
Am I the only one around here who really liked Baby Driver?

I really enjoyed it.  In my mind, Wright hasn't made a bad movie.  He hasn't made a not-good movie.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Teproc on June 16, 2018, 10:57:56 AM
Been a busy day but Jacques Audiard has been crossed off.


I also was thinking Baby Driver would doom Wright. I can go through the remaining directors and name a film that should put them in jeopardy, but nothing seems as popular a strike against as this.

I can think of a few in Coppola's filmography. I'm really surprised she's still standing actually, given the reputation Somewhere and The Bling Ring get.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 16, 2018, 11:12:04 AM
Baby Driver is okay, not bad. Certainly Coppola should get crossed off years earlier than Wright.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 16, 2018, 02:46:22 PM
Baby Driver is really good, it's strange the turn that public sentiment took on it a month or so after release. At this point the only bad film I've seen from Wright is Shaun of the Dead...but also that's so bad that I can see it knocking him off. FLY just won't be the one to make that cut.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 18, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
FLY was making sense but then he took a turn into crazytown.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 18, 2018, 10:55:39 AM
Just over a week and until someone else decides to play these are the 14 Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie:
Ramin Bahrani
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Sofia Coppola
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
Asghar Farhadi
Bahman Ghobadi
Todd Haynes
Nicole Holofcener
Jia Zhangke
Pablo Larraín
Hayao Miyazaki
Jeff Nichols
Kelly Reichardt
Edgar Wright


And here are the Directors stricken off the list:
J.J. Abrams - Removed by roujin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889852#msg889852)
Paul Thomas Anderson - Removed by smirnoff (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889684#msg889684)
Wes Anderson - Removed by Dave the Necrobumper (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889703#msg889703)
Jacques Audiard - Removed by AliceGuyBlache (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889946#msg889946)
Noah Baumbach - Removed by Jeff Schroeck (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889678#msg889678)
Bong Joon-ho - Removed by Same the Cinema Snob (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889897#msg889897)
Andrew Bujalski - Removed by MartinTeller (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889700#msg889700)
Mike Leigh - Removed by Antares (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889744#msg889744)
Guy Maddin - Removed by oldkid (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889702#msg889702)
Alexander Payne - Removed by pixote (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889730#msg889730)
Martin Scorsese - Removed by DarkeningHumour (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889708#msg889708)
Quentin Tarantino - Removed by Monty (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889674#msg889674)
Pablo Trapero - Removed by Teproc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889706#msg889706)
Denis Villeneuve Removed by Bondo (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889911#msg889911)
Ben Wheatley - Removed by 1SO (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889695#msg889695)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jswysin on June 18, 2018, 05:42:09 PM
I can think of a few in Coppola's filmography. I'm really surprised she's still standing actually, given the reputation Somewhere and The Bling Ring get.

I'll go with Coppola, for these two specifically, but not exclusively.  I'm usually cold to her films, though I did enjoy The Beguiled.     
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on June 18, 2018, 10:12:43 PM
Can't be sure from the phrasing. Are you saying you're taking Coppola out?
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: smirnoff on June 18, 2018, 10:24:48 PM
Can't be sure from the phrasing. Are you saying you're taking Coppola out?

I think he's making her an offer she can't refuse.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jdc on June 18, 2018, 11:01:44 PM
Am I the only one around here who really liked Baby Driver?

I think it is his best...
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jswysin on June 19, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
I can think of a few in Coppola's filmography. I'm really surprised she's still standing actually, given the reputation Somewhere and The Bling Ring get.

I'll go with Coppola, for these two specifically, but not exclusively.  I'm usually cold to her films, though I did enjoy The Beguiled.     

Can't be sure from the phrasing. Are you saying you're taking Coppola out?

Sorry for the confusing wording.  Yes, I'm taking down Coppola, mainly for Somewhere and The Bling Ring, but I also didn't care for Marie Antoinette or even The Virgin Suicides
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 19, 2018, 10:52:13 AM
Wise words.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 19, 2018, 06:20:49 PM
Somewhere is amazing. #TeamElle
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jdc on June 19, 2018, 08:37:37 PM
Somewhere is amazing. #TeamElle

FLY is more or less correct on this one
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on July 25, 2018, 02:23:06 AM
Nicole Holofcener made Friends with Money, and while it certainly could be worse it's not a good movie.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Knocked Out Loaded on September 24, 2018, 03:20:12 AM
Can you please take Hayao Miyazaki off the list? Indifference weighs heavier than dislike.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on September 24, 2018, 08:42:58 AM

Ramin Bahrani
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
Asghar Farhadi
Bahman Ghobadi
Todd Haynes
Jia Zhangke
Pablo Larraín
Jeff Nichols
Kelly Reichardt
Edgar Wright


And here are the Directors stricken off the list:
J.J. Abrams - Removed by roujin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889852#msg889852)
Paul Thomas Anderson - Removed by smirnoff (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889684#msg889684)
Wes Anderson - Removed by Dave the Necrobumper (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889703#msg889703)
Jacques Audiard - Removed by AliceGuyBlache (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889946#msg889946)
Noah Baumbach - Removed by Jeff Schroeck (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889678#msg889678)
Andrew Bujalski - Removed by MartinTeller (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889700#msg889700)
Sofia Coppola -  Removed by jswysin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg890083#msg890083)
Nicole Holofcener - Removed by PeacefulAnarchy (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg891387#msg891387)
Bong Joon-ho - Removed by Same the Cinema Snob (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889897#msg889897)
Mike Leigh - Removed by Antares (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889744#msg889744)
Guy Maddin - Removed by oldkid (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889702#msg889702)
Hayao Miyazaki - Removed by Knocked Out Loaded (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg893483#msg893483)
Alexander Payne - Removed by pixote (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889730#msg889730)
Martin Scorsese - Removed by DarkeningHumour (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889708#msg889708)
Quentin Tarantino - Removed by Monty (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889674#msg889674)
Pablo Trapero - Removed by Teproc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889706#msg889706)
Denis Villeneuve Removed by Bondo (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889911#msg889911)
Ben Wheatley - Removed by 1SO (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889695#msg889695)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: oldkid on September 24, 2018, 02:02:04 PM
Can you please take Hayao Miyazaki off the list? Indifference weighs heavier than dislike.

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Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: DarkeningHumour on September 24, 2018, 02:16:04 PM
I know I've had a turn, but since no one's playing anymore, Kelly Reichardt.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: MartinTeller on September 24, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
Well, if we're allowing seconds, then I'll remove the one I should have done in the first place: Bahman Ghobadi
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Teproc on September 24, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
Seconds seems kinda problematic, but I guess there are not enough active users to get through it otherwise. Maybe require two second-time votes to remove someone ? Mine goes to Jeff Nichols for Midnight Special.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 24, 2018, 04:00:10 PM
Can you please take Hayao Miyazaki off the list? Indifference weighs heavier than dislike.

Mine goes to Jeff Nichols for Midnight Special.

This game was a mistake.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on September 24, 2018, 04:13:43 PM
This is why we only get one selection. We all have to live with the remaining names. The lack of active members is built into the consequences.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jswysin on September 24, 2018, 04:52:06 PM
I can think of a few in Coppola's filmography. I'm really surprised she's still standing actually, given the reputation Somewhere and The Bling Ring get.

I'll go with Coppola, for these two specifically, but not exclusively.  I'm usually cold to her films, though I did enjoy The Beguiled.     

Can't be sure from the phrasing. Are you saying you're taking Coppola out?

Sorry for the confusing wording.  Yes, I'm taking down Coppola, mainly for Somewhere and The Bling Ring, but I also didn't care for Marie Antoinette or even The Virgin Suicides

Just to reiterate...
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on September 24, 2018, 05:08:52 PM
Done. 11 Directors remain.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: jdc on September 24, 2018, 07:44:09 PM
Mine goes to Jeff Nichols for Midnight Special.

I don't think I have weighed in here, so I will second this one if Teproc's vote can't be counted. Anything by Jeff Nichols will be among my most anticipated but I would put MS in my bad category
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on September 24, 2018, 07:49:38 PM
A lot of fallen heroes today. We are down to 10.


Ramin Bahrani
Nuri Bilge Ceylan
Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
Asghar Farhadi
Bahman Ghobadi
Todd Haynes
Jia Zhangke
Pablo Larraín
Kelly Reichardt
Edgar Wright


And here are the Directors stricken off the list:
J.J. Abrams - Removed by roujin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889852#msg889852)
Paul Thomas Anderson - Removed by smirnoff (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889684#msg889684)
Wes Anderson - Removed by Dave the Necrobumper (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889703#msg889703)
Jacques Audiard - Removed by AliceGuyBlache (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889946#msg889946)
Noah Baumbach - Removed by Jeff Schroeck (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889678#msg889678)
Andrew Bujalski - Removed by MartinTeller (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889700#msg889700)
Sofia Coppola -  Removed by jswysin (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg890083#msg890083)
Nicole Holofcener - Removed by PeacefulAnarchy (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg891387#msg891387)
Bong Joon-ho - Removed by Same the Cinema Snob (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889897#msg889897)
Mike Leigh - Removed by Antares (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889744#msg889744)
Guy Maddin - Removed by oldkid (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889702#msg889702)
Hayao Miyazaki - Removed by Knocked Out Loaded (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg893483#msg893483)
Jeff Nichols - Removed by jdc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg893522#msg893522)
Alexander Payne - Removed by pixote (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889730#msg889730)
Martin Scorsese - Removed by DarkeningHumour (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889708#msg889708)
Quentin Tarantino - Removed by Monty (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889674#msg889674)
Pablo Trapero - Removed by Teproc (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889706#msg889706)
Denis Villeneuve Removed by Bondo (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889911#msg889911)
Ben Wheatley - Removed by 1SO (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=14809.msg889695#msg889695)
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: joem18b on September 24, 2018, 09:16:04 PM
Edgar Wright probably entertains me more than any other name on the list, but if his movies resemble guilty pleasures in the face of someone like. say, Asghar Farhadi, then I guess I'd vote Wright off.
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: 1SO on September 24, 2018, 09:42:41 PM
I think I understand your opinion of Wright in relation to the other names, but do you think he's made a bad movie?
Title: Re: Film Directors Who Never Made a Bad Movie
Post by: joem18b on September 24, 2018, 10:59:48 PM
I think I understand your opinion of Wright in relation to the other names, but do you think he's made a bad movie?

nope.

in spite of starting off with climates, and with his excellent filmography, i will say that i wasn't kind to "three monkeys" when i reviewed it (referencing Nuri Bilge Ceylan). I'd hate to delete him from the list just for that, though.