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Title: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: 1SO on September 09, 2019, 12:51:10 PM
There isn't much 90's television that holds up, is there?
This is a Thread worth of discussion because I could give you lists of Individual TV episodes and TV Movies, like Pirates of Silicon Valley. It may seem like Television isn't as quality as movies, but if you factor in the thousands of terrible films, percentages come out about equal.

I want to keep this broad, but I'm hoping for a range of answers covering TV Movies and Mini-Series on both cable and network television along with some outstanding individual episodes of television programs.
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 09, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
Dekalog
The Sopranos
Batman: The Animated Series
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Twin Peaks
Spaced
Freaks and Geeks
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: Junior on September 09, 2019, 01:01:35 PM
Those are some great choices Sam.

I'd add in The West Wing, Mad About You, some seasons of SNL, and Kids in the Hall.
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: goodguy on September 09, 2019, 01:39:06 PM
Quick-shot, grouped & chronological.
EDIT: Per pixote's question: added [last watched/number of times].

Masterpiece
Heimat II: A Chronicle of a Generation (1992, Edgar Reitz, Germany)    [2008/4x]

Mostly great
My So-Called Life (1994)    [2007/5x]
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997)    [2019/6x]
The West Wing (1999)    [2011/3x]

Noteworthy
Profit (1996)    [2007/4x]
La Femme Nikita (1997, Canada)    [2016/3x]
Nothing Sacred (1997)    [2018/2x]
Ultraviolet (1998, Joe Ahearne, UK)    [2010/5x]
Angel (1999)    [2007/3x]

Honorable mention
Babylon 5 (1994)    [2013/3x]
Daria (1997)    [2011/2x]
Cowboy Bebop (1998, Japan)    [2013/2x]

Of these, Nothing Sacred is the only one still unavailable, AFAIK even on back channels (poor quality copies on Youtube exist, though).

Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: 1SO on September 09, 2019, 01:53:28 PM
Love seeing Cowboy Bebop. I might post a Top 5 anime series later, but for now I want to more directly address smirnoff with 5 TV Movies.

1. RKO 281 (1999)
2. Indictment: The McMartin Trial (1995)
3. Ghostwatch (1992)
4. Barbarians at the Gate (1993)
5. If These Walls Could Talk (1996)
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: Junior on September 09, 2019, 03:51:39 PM
Ooh, Ghostwatch. It's pretty brilliant.
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: philip918 on September 09, 2019, 04:33:50 PM
A Body to Die For: The Aaron Henry Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ilpQxClCM8
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: pixote on September 09, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
Mostly great
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997)

That one almost deserves an asterisk since season four didn't start till October 1999, and the first three seasons are less than mostly great.

Since smirnoff's original question was about what "holds up", I'm curious to know approximately when people last watched their selections.

pixote
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 09, 2019, 07:39:54 PM
I've watched all my shows in the last 5 years.
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: smirnoff on September 09, 2019, 11:53:36 PM
For my own purposes Star Trek: TNG holds up fine. I rip through a season every now and then. How well it holds up for a person coming to the show for the very first time, in 2019... I couldn't say. But I'd love to know. :)

I rewatched some season 2 Seinfeld recently. It was fantastic. I was pleasantly surprised to find myself laughing out loud on a regular basis.

X-files was a regular show for me in the 90's but trying to rewatch it was quite a grind. So I would say it doesn't hold up.



The 90's were so different to, standards wise. You would watch something because it was the best thing on at any given moment, not because you would choose to watch it from every possible thing in the world you could be watching.
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: philip918 on September 10, 2019, 12:00:23 AM
90's TV Series

The X-Files - totally holds up
Living Single
Twin Peaks
Freaks and Geeks
Homicide: Life on the Street
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: goodguy on September 10, 2019, 05:50:33 AM
Mostly great
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997)
That one almost deserves an asterisk since season four didn't start till October 1999, and the first three seasons are less than mostly great.

YMMV, but the first one is actually my favorite season (just rewatched it again this year) and my overall ranking matches the season numbers, except for the last two.

Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: goodguy on September 10, 2019, 06:29:08 AM
Since smirnoff's original question was about what "holds up", I'm curious to know approximately when people last watched their selections.

EDIT: Per pixote's question: added [last watched/number of times].

Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on September 10, 2019, 06:38:55 AM
Very good
Buffy (rewatched in the last 2-4 years)
Jonathon Creek (watched in the last 8 years)
Cowboy Bebop (watched about 15 years ago)

Would need a rewatch
Midsomer Murders
Inspector Morse
Drop the Dead Donkey
Good Guys, Bad Guys
Absolutely Fabulous
Cracker
The Vicar of Dibley
Quantam Leap
Babylon 5

I suspect the slower pacing of a lot of the British shows might not work as well, and of course the production budgets would not be as grand as they are today, still a good script is hard to knock
down.

I would like to watch all of Heimat 2, given how good the first one was.
Title: Re: Top 5 of 90s Television
Post by: 1SO on September 11, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Since smirnoff's original question was about what "holds up", I'm curious to know approximately when people last watched their selections.

RKO 281 and Indictment: The McMartin Trial are Essentials and both have been watched twice in this decade. Ghostwatch I've seen three times in the last 10 years.

I will back up Midsomer Murders, which I discovered this decade, but the best BBC murder mysteries in the 90s come from Poirot. There are two Poirot movies from 1992, The ABC Murders and Death in the Clouds, which are the gateway to getting people into watching the entire series starring David Suchet.

I kept debating Into the Woods, which aired on American Playhouse in 1991. While it played on television, it's a filmed performance of the Broadway Musical and it was filmed in 1989.

There's a Series called Century of Cinema that ran from 1995 - 1998 that contains the Essential mini-series A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese Through American Movies (1995). The series also contains 100 Years of Japanese Cinema by Nagisa Oshima, A Personal History of British Cinema by Stephen Frears, 40,000 years of dreaming by George Miller and 2 x 50 Years of French Cinema with Michel Piccoli and Jean-Luc Godard. I have to mention the last one because of the description, "Godard asks why should cinema's birthday be celebrated when the history of film is a forgotten subject." Such contempt.


Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a great series, but unfortunately The Body and Once More With Feeling played during the next decade. That leaves "Hush" (1999) as the great standalone episode. (Other great ones like "Doppelgangland", "Passion" and "Becoming" require a familiar knowledge of the series.)