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Title: Allen, Woody
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 12:34:23 AM
Your Favorite Woody Allen Film Is.......
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: roujin on March 26, 2008, 12:35:14 AM
Annie Hall. Easily.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: pixote on March 26, 2008, 12:35:45 AM
Wow, I forgot there was ever a movie called Anything Else.

Also, what roujin said.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: facedad on March 26, 2008, 12:36:29 AM
I'll go with Annie Hall, but The Purple Rose of Cairo and Hannah and Her Sisters better get votes.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 12:37:24 AM
I'll go with Annie Hall, but The Purple Rose of Cairo and Hannah and Her Sisters better get votes.

I second everything you just said.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: sdedalus on March 26, 2008, 12:37:29 AM
I clicked the wrong button.

There I go, being wrong again.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 12:38:11 AM
I clicked the wrong button.

There I go, being wrong again.

what did you want. i will fix it.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: sdedalus on March 26, 2008, 12:38:39 AM
Manhattan
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: facedad on March 26, 2008, 12:41:37 AM
Manhattan
No, see that's the part you're wrong about.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 12:41:40 AM
oh. i guess i can't change it. sorry
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: facedad on March 26, 2008, 12:42:13 AM
oh. i guess i can't change it. sorry
Clearer heads prevail.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: sdedalus on March 26, 2008, 12:46:03 AM
Damn you all!
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: pixote on March 26, 2008, 12:46:11 AM
oh. i guess i can't change it. sorry

You should be able to edit the poll and check the box that allows people to change their votes.  I think.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 12:48:10 AM
oh. i guess i can't change it. sorry

You should be able to edit the poll and check the box that allows people to change their votes.  I think.

pixote

I thought i could, but i can't  :-\
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: pixote on March 26, 2008, 12:50:59 AM
So the next Annie Hall fan should vote for Manhattan, in possible homage to Christian Slater's introduction on West Wing.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: karlwinslow on March 26, 2008, 11:17:22 AM
Manhattan

wow.  me too.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: winrit on March 26, 2008, 12:33:05 PM
Crimes and Misdemeanors it is.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Colleen on March 26, 2008, 12:45:29 PM
To the extent that I like any Woody Allen movie, I like Annie Hall the best.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: oneaprilday on March 26, 2008, 12:49:06 PM
To the extent that I like any Woody Allen movie, I like Annie Hall the best.

Not a fan?
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Ronan on March 26, 2008, 12:50:52 PM
Come on, more love for Manhattan
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Colleen on March 26, 2008, 02:12:24 PM
To the extent that I like any Woody Allen movie, I like Annie Hall the best.

Not a fan?

Not so much but I'm willing to give more movies a try.  It's hard for me to get over my distaste for Woody himself.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: StarCarly on March 26, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
I voted for Manhattan on purpose. Annie Hall is a close second.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: winrit on March 26, 2008, 02:39:14 PM
To the extent that I like any Woody Allen movie, I like Annie Hall the best.

Not a fan?

Not so much but I'm willing to give more movies a try.  It's hard for me to get over my distaste for Woody himself.

I have the same problem, especially when half his movies delve into what most irks me about him (i.e. older man/younger woman).
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Colleen on March 26, 2008, 02:41:29 PM
To the extent that I like any Woody Allen movie, I like Annie Hall the best.

Not a fan?

Not so much but I'm willing to give more movies a try.  It's hard for me to get over my distaste for Woody himself.

I have the same problem, especially when half his movies delve into what most irks me about him (i.e. older man/younger woman).

Yep.  And that I don't find humor around self-loathing and humiliation terribly funny, so his earlier movies never did much for me either.

Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Wowser on March 26, 2008, 02:43:14 PM
Manhattan, mainly for the scene where the two couples bump into each other in the art gallery. I don't like the sprawl and celebrity cameos of Annie Hall. Next favourite might be Zelig.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Kevin Shields on March 26, 2008, 03:43:22 PM
I voted for Crimes & Misdemeanors.  It's my favorite so far.  2nd is Hannah & Her Sisters followed by Annie Hall.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: karlwinslow on March 26, 2008, 04:52:32 PM
i really like woody, but really hate some of the things in his films.  particularly the way he handles marriage.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 05:15:14 PM
Woody's next film is called: Vicky Cristina Barcelona

It stars Scarlett Johansson, Penélope Cruz, Javier Bardem & Patricia Clarkson

Here is what Wikipedia says:

Vicky Cristina Barcelona is the upcoming 2008 film by Academy Award-winning director Woody Allen. The title was announced by "The Hollywood Reporter" on October 19, 2007. This is Allen's fourth film in a row to be shot outside the United States and his first to shoot in Spain.

As is often the case with Allen's films, not much is known of the film's plot at this early point.

In 2007 there arose a controversy in Spain due to the film being funded with public money: Barcelona's city hall is providing one million euros and the Catalan Regional Government half a million — 10% of the film's budget.

This film reportedly features a sex scene between Penelope Cruz and Scarlett Johansson, as well as a threesome between Cruz, Johansson, and Javier Bardem, who plays Cruz's husband in the film.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: roujin on March 26, 2008, 05:25:54 PM
I'm watching that one~!
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Basil on March 26, 2008, 05:39:59 PM
This film reportedly features a sex scene between Penelope Cruz and Scarlett Johansson, as well as a threesome between Cruz, Johansson, and Javier Bardem, who plays Cruz's husband in the film.[/i]

Quite simply, this is now my most anticipated movie of 2008.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: pixote on March 26, 2008, 05:40:54 PM
Woody's next film is called: Vicky Cristina Barcelona

Titles have never been his strong suit.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chris on March 26, 2008, 06:06:39 PM
That sex scene is one of the most built up that I can remember in a while.  I keep hearing about it. 

Anyway, in typical Woody fashion, he's already at work on his next film (http://imdb.com/title/tt1178663/) for 2009. 

Looks like Larry David is in it.  Interesting...
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: duder on March 26, 2008, 06:12:43 PM
i really like woody, but really hate some of the things in his films.  particularly the way he handles marriage.

That's interesting. What do you mean, exactly?

My vote goes to Manhattan.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 26, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
I went with Annie Hall but I haven't seen enough of his films...

Top 5 Woody Allen films to get familiar with him?

(I have seen Bananas, Sleeper, Everything... and Annie Hall)
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: pixote on March 26, 2008, 07:44:40 PM
I'd be on board for a Woody Allen marathon at some point.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 26, 2008, 07:46:03 PM
true dat
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 07:48:17 PM
Hell Yeah
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: duder on March 26, 2008, 07:52:06 PM
Top 5 Woody Allen films to get familiar with him?

(I have seen Bananas, Sleeper, Everything... and Annie Hall)

In order of release date:

1. Take the Money and Run
2. Manhattan
3. Zelig
4. The Purple Rose of Cairo
5. Deconstructing Harry
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: duder on March 26, 2008, 07:53:44 PM
I'd be on board for a Woody Allen marathon at some point.

pixote

Mighty Aphrodite is the only one I haven't seen yet, but I'd play along.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Solid Blake on March 26, 2008, 07:57:03 PM
"Annie Hall"... but it's slim pickings for me.. I'm not a big fan of Mr. Allen.

::dodges bullet::
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 26, 2008, 08:01:01 PM
Top 5 Woody Allen films to get familiar with him?

(I have seen Bananas, Sleeper, Everything... and Annie Hall)

In order of release date:

1. Take the Money and Run
2. Manhattan
3. Zelig
4. The Purple Rose of Cairo
5. Deconstructing Harry


  Thanks El Dude!
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Wilson on March 26, 2008, 08:51:58 PM
Top 5 Woody Allen films to get familiar with him?

(I have seen Bananas, Sleeper, Everything... and Annie Hall)

1. Manhattan
2. Hannah & Her Sisters
3. The Purple Rose Of Cairo
4. Crimes & Misdemenours
5. Manhattan Murder Mystery
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on March 26, 2008, 09:21:16 PM
Top 5 Woody Allen films to get familiar with him?

(I have seen Bananas, Sleeper, Everything... and Annie Hall)

 
1. Manhattan
2. Hannah & Her Sisters
3. The Purple Rose Of Cairo
4. Crimes & Misdemenours
5. Manhattan Murder Mystery

Thanks Wilson!
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chesterfilms on March 26, 2008, 09:24:59 PM
http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3332.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: osmp on March 26, 2008, 09:35:16 PM
yep it is Annie Hall for me too with Manhattan as second and Hannah third
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: kypade on March 26, 2008, 09:49:07 PM
Annie Hall.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: facedad on March 26, 2008, 10:17:16 PM
Seriously, no one for Hannah or Purple Rose?
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: JoshuaOst on March 26, 2008, 10:29:20 PM
Crimes and Misdemeanors is his best.  Perfect blend of drama and comedy.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: ¡Keith! on March 27, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
I have to revisit Annie as i've not seen it in 8 years or so...

Voted Match Point... love that one.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Thor on February 19, 2009, 02:57:07 PM
Today, it's Manhattan. Sometimes, I'll say Manhattan Murder Mystery.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mañana on February 19, 2009, 03:20:09 PM
Hannah and Her Sisters edges out Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: pixote on February 19, 2009, 04:58:00 PM
Added Vicky Cristina Barcelona.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: Bill Thompson on February 19, 2009, 04:58:29 PM
Annie Hall
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: Deacon.Snacks. on February 21, 2009, 03:21:27 AM
My vote goes for Manhattan.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: gateway on February 21, 2009, 05:40:22 PM
Voted for Sleeper, since I guess I'm one of those hipster d-bags who claims to prefer Woody's farcical early work over his more dramatic later work. Plus, Sleeper is just one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mañana on March 18, 2009, 12:45:45 AM
So the next Annie Hall fan should vote for Manhattan, in possible homage to Christian Slater's introduction on West Wing.

Explain this statement to me. It's wonderful but I don't get it.  :)
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: pixote on March 18, 2009, 12:54:35 AM
So the next Annie Hall fan should vote for Manhattan, in possible homage to Christian Slater's introduction on West Wing.

Explain this statement to me. It's wonderful but I don't get it.  :)

Haha, how am I supposed to remember something like that from twelve months ago?






Just kidding, I totally remember.  Lemme see if YouTube can help...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkwuoSSeyzQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkwuoSSeyzQ#)
Gosh, I love the internet.

pixote
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: THATguy on March 18, 2009, 02:28:59 AM
I went with Crimes..., but am kind of sad to see such gems like Zelig, Purple Rose..., Stardust Memories, Bullets over Broadway, etc. get such little love.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mañana on March 18, 2009, 02:35:26 AM
So the next Annie Hall fan should vote for Manhattan, in possible homage to Christian Slater's introduction on West Wing.

Explain this statement to me. It's wonderful but I don't get it.  :)

Haha, how am I supposed to remember something like that from twelve months ago?



Just kidding, I totally remember.  Lemme see if YouTube can help...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkwuoSSeyzQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkwuoSSeyzQ#)
Gosh, I love the internet.

pixote
You rule pix. That is a beautifully nerdy reference.  :D


It pains me to watch Donna flirt with someone who isn't Josh.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: 'Noke on March 18, 2009, 10:57:39 AM
Haven't seen a Woody Allen film.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: MartinTeller on October 04, 2010, 12:30:56 PM
1. Annie Hall
2. Sleeper
3. Crimes and Misdemeanors
4. Husbands and Wives
5. Love and Death
6. Hannah and Her Sisters
7. Bullets Over Broadway
8. Small Time Crooks
9. Vicky Cristina Barcelona
10. Zelig
11. Match Point
12. Another Woman
13. Manhattan Murder Mystery
14. Interiors
15. What's Up, Tiger Lily?
16. Alice
17. Deconstructing Harry
18. Shadows and Fog
19. Manhattan
20. Radio Days
21. Bananas
22. The Purple Rose of Cairo
23. You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger
24. Broadway Danny Rose
25. Sweet and Lowdown
26. Take the Money and Run
27. Cassandra's Dream
28. To Rome With Love
29. Scoop
30. Mighty Aphrodite
31. Anything Else
32. New York Stories
33. Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex * But Were Afraid to Ask
34. Melinda and Melinda
35. A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
36. Stardust Memories
37. Midnight in Paris
38. Everyone Says I Love You
39. Whatever Works
40. September
41. The Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: sdedalus on November 02, 2010, 02:10:56 PM
1. Annie Hall
2. Manhattan
3. Purple Rose of Cairo
4. Hannah and Her Sisters
5. Zelig
6. Sleeper
7. Crimes and Misdemeanors
8. Love and Death
9. What's Up Tiger Lily
10. Sweet and Lowdown
11. Vicky Christina Barcelona
12. Bananas
13. Radio Days
14. Mighty Aphrodite
15. Broadway Danny Rose
16. Husbands and Wives
17. Stardust Memories
18. Everyone Says I Love You
19. Take the Money and Run
20. Deconstructing Harry
21. Bullets Over Broadway
22. Match Point
23. Interiors
24. Melinda and Melinda
25. Alice
26. Manhattan Murder Mystery
27. Shadows and Fog
28. Celebrity
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: StarCarly on November 02, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
Changed my vote to Husbands and Wives.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: verbALs on November 02, 2010, 02:41:53 PM
I think Annie Hall is the best but Crimes is too low on both your lists. While Matchpoint should be bottom.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: don s. on November 02, 2010, 05:20:44 PM
Stardust Memories ... that was me.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 01, 2010, 06:58:25 AM
Now I can finally say that Annie Hall is his best.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll #2 - Woody Allen
Post by: Totoro on March 02, 2011, 12:36:01 AM
Manhattan
Annie Hall
The Purple Rose of Cairo
Interiors
Hannah and Her Sisters
Sleeper
Zelig
Manhattan Murder Mystery
Everyone Says I Love You
Scoop
Match Point
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Deconstructing Harry
What's Up, Tiger Lily?
Whatever Works
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: toro913 on March 05, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Annie Hall
Hannah and Her Sisters
Manhattan
Deconstructing Harry
The Purple Rose of Cairo
Zelig
Match Point
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Broadway Danny Rose
Love and Death
Sleeper
What's Up, Tiger Lily?
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: AAAutin on March 09, 2011, 12:18:18 AM
32.) ANOTHER WOMAN
31.) ALICE
30.) SLEEPER
29.) HANNAH & HER SISTERS
28.) MANHATTAN MURDER MYSTERY
27.) ANYTHING ELSE
26.) MELINDA & MELINDA
25.) MANHATTAN
24.) BULLETS OVER BROADWAY
23.) THE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO
22.) ZELIG
21.) CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS
20.) MIDNIGHT IN PARIS
19.) LOVE & DEATH
18.) MATCH POINT
17.) EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW [...]
16.) BLUE JASMINE
15.) TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN
14.) BANANAS
13.) CASSANDRA'S DREAM
12.) MIGHTY APHRODITE
11.) CELEBRITY
10.) SHADOWS & FOG
09.) STARDUST MEMORIES
08.) DECONSTRUCTING HARRY
07.) VICKY CRISTINA BARCELONA
06.) BROADWAY DANNY ROSE
05.) WHATEVER WORKS
04.) TO ROME WITH LOVE
03.) RADIO DAYS
02.) SWEET & LOWDOWN
01.) ANNIE HALL
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Antares on March 18, 2011, 06:57:25 PM
Interiors
Sleeper
Take the Money and Run
Bananas
Zelig


Annie Hall
Hannah and Her Sisters
What's Up, Tiger Lily?
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex * But Were Afraid to Ask


Love and Death
Manhattan
Stardust Memories
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy


Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: roujin on October 26, 2011, 11:29:47 AM
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Midnight in Paris Woody Allen, 2011

Owen Wilson travels to Paris with a bunch of assholes in tow, finds out that his present situation is terrible, does nothing about it. Thru movie magic, he ends up in 20's Paris, where a bunch of American expatriates and cultural figures are all mingling about, with the same stupid problems that Wilson has just left behind. The Past. I've had similar romantic notions as that of the Wilson character, and when you get called an "old soul" for liking old movies, it just confuses you and throws you off. Wilson has adventures in The Past, movie stars get to play dress up and do impressions, it's all quite fun. Don't romanticize the past, says Woody. Okay, well, but you gotta give me something besides rich douchebags, and, no, pretty French maidens straight out of my fantasies won't do. Unless it's all really happening to me, in which case, I'll take it. The whole thing's a breeze, with none of the miserableness of You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger or Vicky Cristina Barcelona. Light, light, light. At least there's no Bergman or Fellini in this one.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mañana on October 26, 2011, 12:38:34 PM
I'm having a hard time mustering up any enthusiasm for that one.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: oneaprilday on October 26, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
Midnight in Paris Woody Allen, 2011

Don't romanticize the past, says Woody. Okay, well, but you gotta give me something besides rich douchebags, and, no, pretty French maidens straight out of my fantasies won't do. Unless it's all really happening to me, in which case, I'll take it.
Yep, that's it, exactly.  "Don't romanticize the past, but just go ahead and accept the fantasy of this film instead; we'll just decide that life will placate us beautiful French girls and the pretty postcard Paris even if we give up our dreams of the past."

I dunno.  Maybe Woody's never seen La Haine.  One would have thought the guy who made The Purple Rose of Cairo though - with its ending - wouldn't be satisfied with a Midnight in Paris.  :-\
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: sdedalus on October 26, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
Sometimes you get The Purple Rose of Cairo, sometimes you get Mighty Aphrodite.  We should just be glad we didn't get Hollywood Endings.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: oneaprilday on October 26, 2011, 03:02:35 PM
Sometimes you get The Purple Rose of Cairo, sometimes you get Might Aphrodite.  We should just be glad we didn't get Hollywood Endings.
I guess I much prefer the Purple Rose experience then, so joyfully celebrating the fantasy and yet bringing us back to earth, too. 

Haven't had the (dubious?) pleasure of Hollywood Endings. :)  He was just talking about that one, though, on The Film Programme (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b015ctwl/The_Film_Programme_07_10_2011/) - said he thought it was his funniest movie.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: sdedalus on October 26, 2011, 03:09:40 PM
Yeah, I haven't seen it either.  But artists are usually terrible judges of their own work.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mañana on October 26, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
Haven't had the (dubious?) pleasure of Hollywood Endings. :)
I saw it in the theater.  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: oneaprilday on October 26, 2011, 03:14:33 PM
What, you didn't think it was his funniest movie, matt? :)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mañana on October 26, 2011, 03:17:17 PM
I guess Tea Leoni, Debra Messing, and Kelly Kapowski's inability to resist him is kinda funny.  :)

The blindness bit could be good in a better movie.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Totoro on November 02, 2011, 02:16:27 AM
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Midnight in Paris Woody Allen, 2011

Don't romanticize the past, says Woody. Okay, well, but you gotta give me something besides rich douchebags, and, no, pretty French maidens straight out of my fantasies won't do. Unless it's all really happening to me, in which case, I'll take it.
Yep, that's it, exactly.  "Don't romanticize the past, but just go ahead and accept the fantasy of this film instead; we'll just decide that life will placate us beautiful French girls and the pretty postcard Paris even if we give up our dreams of the past."


I fail to see this as a criticism. It seems to be more of a nitpick to me.

Yeah, it isn't The Purple Rose of Cairo. But Midnight in Paris is a straight up comedy, while Purple Rose is clearly a surrealistic drama. It's an unfair comparison.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Verite on November 22, 2011, 01:37:12 AM
In case you missed it, Part 1 of Woody Allen: A Documentary is available to watch online here (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/episodes/woody-allen-a-documentary/watch-part-1-online/1926/).  I enjoyed it, and I don't think you need to be a fan of WA to enjoy it as well.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Verite on November 22, 2011, 11:15:27 AM
Part 2 was pretty average.  Near-skippable.  More talking heads with the performers of his films rather than WA. 
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: AAAutin on November 22, 2011, 11:22:53 AM
Part 2 was pretty average.

Yeah. There was a little about process, but mostly, it just felt like a retrospective. Too bad, as the film started out more as a comprehensive portrait of the man.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: mousterpiece on December 05, 2011, 01:31:17 PM
I don't know, I enjoyed hearing eighty different people say that Woody Allen's ability to compartmentalize problems like him and Soon-Yi being together.

Seriously, though, I chose Annie Hall. Purple Rose and Manhattan are right behind it.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Timbzy on June 20, 2012, 07:39:26 AM
Annie Hall - 5
The Purple Rose of Cairo - 5
Hannah and Her Sisters - 5
Manhattan - 5
Play It Again, Sam - 5
Crimes and Misdemeanors - 5
Deconstructing Harry - 5
Zelig - 4.5
Husbands and Wives - 4.5
Stardust Memories - 4.5
Manhattan Murder Mystery - 4.5
Match Point - 4.5
Interiors - 4.5
Midnight in Paris - 4.5
September - 4.5
Bullets Over Broadway - 4
Shadows and Fog - 4
Broadway Danny Rose - 4
Vicky Cristina Barcelona - 4
Anything Else - 4
Hollywood Ending - 4
Whatever Works - 4
Love and Death - 4
Sleeper - 3.5
Everyone Says I Love You - 3.5
Take the Money and Run - 3.5
Alice - 3.5
Mighty Aphrodite - 3.5
Bananas - 3.5
Melinda and Melinda - 3.5
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion - 3.5
Another Woman - 3.5
Celebrity - 3.5
Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask) - 3.5
Scoop - 3
Small Time Crooks - 3
Radio Days - 3
You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger - 3
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy - 2.5
Don't Drink The Water - 2.5
What's Up, Tiger Lily? - 2

What can I say... I'm a fan.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Totoro on July 09, 2012, 04:37:49 AM
Annie Hall (A+)
The Purple Rose of Cairo (A+)
Radio Days (A)
Bullets Over Broadway (A)
Manhattan (B+)
Zelig (B+)
Everyone Says I Love You (B+)
Sweet & Lowdown (B)
Midnight in Paris (B)
Interiors (B)
Hannah and Her Sisters (B)
Sleeper (B)
Love & Death (B-)
Deconstructing Harry (B-)
Manhattan Murder Mystery (B-)
Another Woman (C+)
Broadway Danny Rose (C)
Vicky Cristina Barcelona (C)
Match Point (C)
Scoop (C)
Whatever Works (D-)
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion (D-)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on July 09, 2012, 06:32:22 AM
I have only seen 2 (Sleeper and Everything...) and not impressed, have not had any interest in seeing any others since.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: george96 on July 11, 2012, 11:38:53 AM
I'm a youngun who is just discovering Woody, and I've only seen five (!) of his films.

Annie Hall and Hannah and Her Sisters are my favorites, so far. Manhattan, Manhattan Murder Mystery, and Midnight in Paris are all very good films, but rank far behind the greatness of the other two.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: ArmenianScientist on September 04, 2012, 12:40:19 PM
1. Husbands and Wives
2. Annie Hall
3. Crimes and Misdemeanors
4. Love and Death
5. Manhattan
6. Radio Days
7. Hannah and Her Sisters
8. Bullets Over Broadway
9. Zelig
10. Midnight in Paris
11. The Purple Rose of Cairo
12. Sweet and Lowdown
13. Sleeper
14. Match Point
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: george96 on September 04, 2012, 07:03:12 PM
1. Annie Hall/Hannah and Her Sisters
3. Radio Days
4. Manhattan Murder Mystery
5. Midnight in Paris
6. Broadway Danny Rose
7. Manhattan
8. Sleeper
9. Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: 1SO on December 30, 2012, 12:11:00 AM
1. Crimes and Misdemeanors
2. Annie Hall
3. The Purple Rose of Cairo
4. Love and Death
5. Manhattan
6. Bananas
7. Everyone Says I Love You
8. Zelig
9. Hannah and Her Sisters
10. Interiors
11. Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex * But Were Afraid to Ask
12. Blue Jasmine
13. Sleeper
14. Cassandra's Dream
15. Whatever Works
16. Manhattan Murder Mystery
17. Bullets Over Broadway
18. Take the Money and Run
19. Sweet and Lowdown
20. Vicky Cristina Barcelona
21. Stardust Memories
22. Match Point
23. Broadway Danny Rose
24. Hollywood Ending
25. Radio Days
26. Midnight in Paris
27. What's Up, Tiger Lily?
28. Melinda and Melinda
29. Alice
30. Mighty Aphrodite
31. Deconstructing Harry
32. Small Time Crooks
33. Shadows and Fog
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Jared on January 29, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
Annie Hall 5/5
Crimes and Misdemeanors 5/5
Hannah and Her Sisters 5/5
Match Point 5/5
Husbands and Wives 5/5
Manhattan 4/5
Vicky Christina Barcelona 4/5
Another Woman 4/5
The Purple Rose of Cairo 3/5
Bullets Over Broadway 3/5
Broadway Danny Rose 3/5
Celebrity 3/5
Radio Days 3/5
Everyone Says I Love You 3/5
Midnight in Paris 3/5
Love and Death 3/5
Interiors 3/5
Anything Else 3/5
Sweet and Lowdown 3/5
Melinda and Melinda 3/5
Zelig 3/5
Deconstructing Harry 3/5
Bananas 3/5
Take the Money and Run 3/5
Manhattan Murder Mystery 3/5
Everything you Ever Wanted to Know About Sex 3/5
Sleeper 3/5
Mighty Aprodihte 3/5
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion 2/5
New York Stories (segment) 2/5
You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger 2/5
Scoop 2/5
Whatever Works 2/5
To Rome With Love 2/5
Hollywood Ending 2/5
September 2/5
Alice 1/5
Stardust Memories 1/5
Shadows and Fog 1/5
Cassandra's Dream 1/5
Small Time Crooks 1/5
What's Up Tiger Lily? 1/5
A Midsummer Nights Sex Comedy 1/5
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: Totoro on August 06, 2013, 12:37:38 AM

Annie Hall (A+)
The Purple Rose of Cairo (A+)
Radio Days (A)
Bullets Over Broadway (A)
Blue Jasmine (B+)
Manhattan (B+)
Zelig (B+)
Everyone Says I Love You (B+)
Sweet & Lowdown (B)
Midnight in Paris (B)
Interiors (B)
Hannah and Her Sisters (B)
Sleeper (B)
Love & Death (B-)
Deconstructing Harry (B-)
Manhattan Murder Mystery (B-)
Another Woman (C+)
Broadway Danny Rose (C)
Vicky Cristina Barcelona (C)
Match Point (C)
Scoop (C)
Whatever Works (D-)
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion (D-)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 07, 2013, 12:00:18 AM
Match Point
Vicky Christina Barcelona
Blue Jasmine
Manhattan Murder Mystery
Sweet and Lowdown
Bullets Over Broadway
Another Woman
Small Time Crooks
Midnight In Paris
Mighty Aphrodite
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Hollywood Ending
Anything Else
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: roujin on August 07, 2013, 12:32:45 AM
I am very confused by the stuff you haven't seen.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 07, 2013, 12:41:02 AM
I am very confused by the stuff you haven't seen.

me too.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: 1SO on January 02, 2014, 10:08:57 AM
Stardust Memories
* * 1/2

There is a connection between Woody Allen's rising career and relationships with women and Fellini's. However, their filmmaking styles are so different, and often Allen can only imitate Fellini's flourishes. There are some great times, when the Fellini is perfectly filtered through Allen's neurosis (like the meeting with aliens), but not enough to make the film work. Also, I don't think Fellini was ever so hard on his fans. They might show up at the wrong times, but he respected their strangeness as part of the circus. Allen portrays them as omnipresent, annoying parasites to be despised.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: 1SO on January 05, 2014, 01:50:36 AM
Blue Jasmine
* * *

My #12 Woody Allen out of 32 plays like a rough cut of something truly great. The fragmented storytelling threw me at first, but it's anchored by Cate Blanchett performance, every bit as good as I heard. These snapshots of Jasmine's life are a series of dramatic highlights for actors to play with none of the transitional scenes. A lot of them work, and the great acting extends well beyond Blanchett. Then there are a handful of scenes that would've/should've hit the floor on a more concentrated pass. Poor Michael Stuhlbarg has to play a dramatic arc older than time. I love hearing about Baldwin's arrest. There was no need to show it. Stuff like that. It's become the common complaint that with a little more time and effort, Allen's films can only benefit. This one needed it most because it's disappointingly close to being top shelf.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: FLYmeatwad on January 16, 2014, 02:10:09 PM
I need to search for a spoiler thread, I reckon. I also should watch more Allen, maybe? Blue Jazzzzzzzz is the type of film I didn't realize Woodrow had in him, would say it even gives the old Ms. Hall a good run for her money, but part of that is because it doesn't feel like a Woody Allen film as I understand them. Who knows.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: jascook on June 23, 2014, 06:40:42 PM
The Purple Rose of Cairo: 9/10
Zelig: 8/10
Annie Hall: 8/10
Radio Days: 7/10
Crimes and Misdemeanors: 7/10
Blue Jasmine: 7/10
Anything Else: 6/10
Mighty Aphrodite: 6/10
Magic in the Moonlight: 6/10
Take the Money and Run: 6/10
Manhattan: 6/10
Deconstructing Harry: 5/10
Irrational Man: 4/10
Whatever Works: 4/10
Shadows and Fog: 3/10
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: don s. on July 20, 2014, 11:38:15 PM
For your consideration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fnm7LVB3mY

(Warning: occasional quality issues and constant Italian subtitles.)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: roujin on August 11, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
1. Annie Hall (1977)
2. Everyone Says I Love You (1996)
3. Stardust Memories (1980)
4. Midnight in Paris (2011)
5. Deconstructing Harry (1997)
6. Manhattan (1979)

Hannah and Her Sisters (1986)
Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989)
Sweet and Lowdown (1999)
Scoop (2006)
Vicky Cristina Barcelona (2008)
You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger (2010)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 12, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
I thought there would be more competition. I mean, I love Anie Hall, but there are many other equally fine movies. Crimes and Misdemeanours, Hannah and Her Sisters, Manhattan...

I just can't bring myself to rank them. I leave that sort of masochism to Adam and Josh.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chardy999 on May 12, 2015, 07:47:54 AM
Can someone add Midnight in Paris to the poll please? :)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: 1SO on May 12, 2015, 07:59:28 AM
A brand new poll is coming. We'll announce when it's ready.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: roujin on May 12, 2015, 09:54:12 AM
Woody Allen has a new poll. Please vote.

Old poll results:

(http://i.imgur.com/nL1bxeT.png)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: pixote on July 07, 2015, 03:15:18 AM
Beginning a long, long journey through the films of Woody Allen:

What's Up, Tiger Lily?  (Woody Allen, 1966)
Dubbing over a Japanese spy comedy with new dialogue and a new story is a great conceit. But this is some lazy, lazy filmmaking. There are, I'm pretty sure, more laughs in the average Bad Lip Reading (https://www.youtube.com/user/BadLipReading) video on YouTube. And the reinvention of the spy film story isn't nearly clever enough. The running gag that the microfilm Macguffin is really an egg salad recipe — that's the kind of joke your dad whispers to you in the middle of the movie and you give him a sympathy laugh even as your cringing inside because your dad is a horrible whisperer and you know everyone else in the theater is rolling their eyes. But you love your dad, so it's all good. There are, of course, some jokes that land — "Name three presidents" is an example from early in the film that provides the perfect sort of random joy — but there are way more that don't. The total number of jokes even attempted, successful or not, is a shockingly low number. It's almost no wonder the studio felt the need to edit in some extra footage to pad the length. But that extra footage certainly doesn't help matters. From what I can tell, it was a mistake for Allen to reedit the original film in the first place. The result is such a jumbled mess. Sure, Allen appears in the middle of it all to tell us, "Of course it's a jumbled mess! That's the point!" But explaining that particular joke doesn't make it any more funny.
Grade: C-

pixote
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: MartinTeller on July 07, 2015, 02:33:39 PM
Aw man, I have a soft spot for that one.  Yeah, it's old hat now, but it was pretty clever for the time.  Comedy is very subjective, of course, but I think the ratio of good jokes to clunkers is pretty good.  The inserted bits with the Lovin' Spoonful are a huge mistake, though.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: mañana on July 07, 2015, 02:36:00 PM
That's a good point about the low number of jokes attempted. There are stretches that are oddly without jokes at all. But generally I'm with MT; I think of it fondly except for the Lovin Spoonful scenes.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: MartinTeller on July 07, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
That's a good point about the low number of jokes attempted. There are stretches that are oddly without jokes at all.

Yeah that's true. Looking back at my last review: "Spy flicks aren’t inherently talky, so you’re left with a lot of dead space where you’re just actually watching the original, unaltered material.  Fortunately the replacement storyline — about the battle over a secret egg salad recipe — is actually entertaining enough in its own right that these scenes aren’t dull, but what you really want is wall-to-wall gags."
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: pixote on July 07, 2015, 02:57:22 PM
That's a good point about the low number of jokes attempted. There are stretches that are oddly without jokes at all.

Yeah that's true. Looking back at my last review: "Spy flicks aren’t inherently talky, so you’re left with a lot of dead space where you’re just actually watching the original, unaltered material.  Fortunately the replacement storyline — about the battle over a secret egg salad recipe — is actually entertaining enough in its own right that these scenes aren’t dull, but what you really want is wall-to-wall gags."

That line from your review really stood out to me, making me wonder how the film might have worked around that problem. The first two options that came to mind were to maybe add a narrator; or to use (more) animation over the scenes to work in gags that way.

pixote
Title: Re: Allen, Woody - Directors Best Poll #2
Post by: chardy999 on March 16, 2016, 10:24:16 PM
Midnight in Paris
Annie Hall
Manhattan
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Match Point
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Blue Jasmine
Magic in the Moonlight
The Purple Rose of Cairo
Hannah and Her Sisters
Husbands and Wives
To Rome With Love
Mighty Aphrodite
Stardust Memories
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 16, 2016, 10:34:44 PM
I just realised I don't have a full ranking in here.

Manhattan
Annie Hall
Match Point
Crimes and Misdemeanours
Midnight in Paris
Whatever Works
Blue Jasmine
Magic in the Moonlight
Hannah and her Sisters
A Midsummer's Night Sex Comedy
Bananas
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Manhattan Murder Mystery
Irrational Man
Celebrity
Melinda and Melinda
Alice
Scoop
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
To Rome With Love

I may be forgetting a couple. What's the one where he plays a director who becomes blind ?
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: mañana on March 16, 2016, 11:15:02 PM
Hollywood Ending
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Corndog on March 29, 2016, 01:08:21 PM
1. Annie Hall (4)
2. Manhattan (4)
3. Midnight in Paris (3.5)
4. Whatever Works (3)
5. Blue Jasmine (3)
6. Vicky Christina Barcelona (3)
7. Hannah and Her Sisters (3)
8. Bananas (3)
9. Cassandra's Dream (3)
10. Crimes and Misdemeanors (2.5)
11. Match Point (2.5)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Teproc on May 15, 2016, 04:57:12 PM
Match Point
Annie Hall
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Café Society
Manhattan
Wonder Wheel
Irrational Man


I should see more.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on May 15, 2016, 07:45:43 PM
I should see more.
You've seen four and none of them have Allen acting. That's just wrong.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 15, 2016, 08:33:10 PM
I should see more.
You've seen four and none of them have Allen acting. That's just wrong.

None of them have Keaton or Farrow either. I don't understand.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: 1SO on June 22, 2016, 12:55:56 AM
The Purple Rose of Cairo
* * * - Very Good

Though I hadn't watched this in a long while and I always hated the ending, this was my favorite Woody Allen film for the particular way it loves people who love to escape to the movies. The jokes involving the characters trapped in the film and the dual performance by Jeff Daniels, representing both sides of our fascination with actors closely associated with their characters are still marvelous. However, Danny Aiello's abusive husband is such a royal a-hole, that he unbalances the tone. (He should just be a dumb jerk, easy to shake off, and less of a brutish threat.) I also still hate the ending, though all these years later I understand the truth of it better, and the final close-up on Mia Farrow's face almost saves it.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Totoro on June 23, 2016, 03:31:50 AM
What's wrong with the ending other than being too perfect for words?

 :P
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: 1SO on June 23, 2016, 09:28:29 AM
I like Mia Farrow's character so much that I would have wished for her to live in a happy fantasy that lasts forever and doesn't end when her movie does. Real love > Movie love, but the ending tries to argue the opposite.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Totoro on July 10, 2016, 03:30:51 AM
I like Mia Farrow's character so much that I would have wished for her to live in a happy fantasy that lasts forever and doesn't end when her movie does. Real love > Movie love, but the ending tries to argue the opposite.

I don't think so? Because even though she fell in love with the character, it would've likely never lasted - he was still a rather one-dimensional character, filled with devotion, sure, but that's about it. But even then, I think it just suggests that, at this period of time, everyone needed an escape. This was hers - but the escape can only last so long. It couldn't end in any other way.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 01, 2017, 07:19:28 AM
Watched a few more since last time. Had to use Letterboxd to help me sort them out (they should really let you change your ratings on the list editing page).

Manhattan
Annie Hall
Match Point
Midnight in Paris
Magic in the Moonlight
Whatever Works
Blue Jasmine
Hannah and her Sisters
Crimes and Misdemeanours
The Purple Rose of Cairo
Manhattan Murder Mystery
A Midsummer's Night Sex Comedy
Hollywood Ending
Bananas
The Curse of the Jade Scorpion
Melinda and Melinda
Café Society
Irrational Man
Celebrity
Alice
Scoop
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
To Rome With Love


Allen is probably the director I know best by number of movies watched. Unfortunately there is a bunch of them I can barely remember.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 01, 2017, 07:21:10 AM
I like Mia Farrow's character so much that I would have wished for her to live in a happy fantasy that lasts forever and doesn't end when her movie does. Real love > Movie love, but the ending tries to argue the opposite.

Do you like her because she feels real and is well written or because you like the person? I ask because I cannot stand her. (just watched it two weeks ago)
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: 1SO on August 01, 2017, 09:48:29 AM
I like the character and wish for her to get a better life instead of constantly being under the soul-crushing thumb of men.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 01, 2017, 10:07:27 AM
I like the character and wish for her to get a better life instead of constantly being under the soul-crushing thumb of men.

But that would be untrue to the character. Being subservient to men is half her personality. The other half is a mix of reverie, escapism, self-delusions and star struckness. She is an addict yearning for the next fix to escape from the awful men she chooses for herself.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: smirnoff on August 30, 2017, 09:47:48 PM
Vicky Cristina Barcelona (2008) (seen 3 times)
 Anything Else (2003)  (seen 3 times)
 Scoop (2006)
 Midnight in Paris (2011) (seen 2 times)
 Match Point (2005) (seen 2 times)
 Whater Works (2009) (seen 2 times)
 Another Woman (1988) (seen 2 times)
 Melinda and Melinda (2004) (seen 2 times)
 Cassandra's Dream (2007)
 Hannah and Her Sisters (1986)
 Small Time Crooks (2000)
 Blue Jasmine (2013)
 Irrational Man (2015)
 You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger (2010)
 Alice (1990)
 Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989)
 The Purple Roise of Cairo (1985)
 Annie Hall (1977)
 Hollywood Ending (2002)


Typically I find his movies amusing but dull. And when I do like one usually next time I see it I like it a lot less. I would say Vicky Christina Barcelona is the only one to ever rise in my estimation over time. I've lost my enthusiasm for Anything Else and Midnight in Paris but still consider them superior films. One day I'll watch Scoop again and see where that falls. Everything else, blah.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: chardy999 on August 30, 2017, 11:59:12 PM
Given that, you shouldn't see Manhattan. I like it though.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: don s. on August 31, 2017, 01:13:48 AM
Smirnoff, I don't know you. I know nothing about you. But I'm hoping you plan to donate your brain to science.

Kids today.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 31, 2017, 03:28:11 AM
Is indentation a new thing now?

Your list is litterally upside down.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: 1SO on August 31, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
(http://imgur.com/DlKgZDX.jpg)
Whatever Works (2009)
"That's an awfully aggressive ensemble. You looking to wind up in an abortion clinic?"

In my post-viewing reading I found a lot of people debating the differences between Larry David here and on Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's a good starting reference because there is no misanthrope more hilarious than Larry David. However, Allen isn't writing Curb: The Movie, so this isn't quite the Larry David you're used to, nor is it David as a Woody Allen surrogate, though there is some of that in the character and his choices. Allen on screen has never been so humorously hateful, so this collaboration has a lot of overlap and just enough of a difference to make it interesting. More importantly, there are less watery jokes here and more biting ones than most late period Allen. Since his Match Point resurgence, this is his funniest film.

It's also a film that seems to not give a crap about criticisms against Allen. The relationship between David and Evan Rachel Wood, as the latest of Allen's parade of stupid sex objects, has never been more unapologetic in Allen's presentation of this as a male fantasy scenario. (What a wet blanket that mother becomes, am I right guys?) There's also plenty of lazy writing, mostly as Allen pulls back from David, who keeps firing off sarcasms while the film dials him down to expand into an ensemble. By the end, this is just another Allen softball, with characters who are so shallow it's an insult to the talent gathered, but there are enough funny moments along the way.
* * * - Okay
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Teproc on February 15, 2018, 10:23:39 AM
Wonder Wheel (Woody Allen, 2017)

(https://i.imgur.com/pXFoNmd.jpg)

This was an interesting experience. Wonder Wheel feels at times like a high-school play, except Kate Winslet is in it and Vittorio Storaro shot it (which I guess doesn't make sense for a play but bear with me). Really the only way to make sense of it is to assume that the aggressive artificiality of both the performances and the lighting are meant as a commentary on the power of delusion, and I do think the film works rather well on that level: the lighting informs where the characters are mentally and more importantly where they would like to be, but it also ironically underlines how blind they are to their surroundings, how their fantasies prevent them from actually engaging with life.

Which is all well and good, but it's also pretty painful to watch. That artificiality is very present in all the performances (save for Juno Temple) and makes the whole thing... unpleasant. By the very nature of its narrative, the film wallows in clichés, and of course there's a meta-aspect that justifies it with Timberlake's character, and that's interesting but it doesn't quite get clever enough to sustain itself and overcome its lack of an emotional core. Juno Temple's character is the closest to that, really, but I get the feeling that it's supposed to be Winslet and that does not work at all.

5/10

Updated ranking:

Match Point
Annie Hall
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Café Society
Manhattan
Wonder Wheel
Irrational Man

Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Corndog on February 15, 2018, 11:16:45 AM
I quit on Wonder Wheel about 40 minutes in. It didn't have any redeeming qualities or a narrative I was interested in following to its conclusion.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Teproc on February 15, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
I quit on Wonder Wheel about 40 minutes in. It didn't have any redeeming qualities or a narrative I was interested in following to its conclusion.

I was tempted to as well. Doesn't the cinematography count as a redeeming quality though ? It helped me find a way to connect with the film eventually, even though it still doesn't quite work for me.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Corndog on February 15, 2018, 11:20:48 AM
I think the pretty cinematography, paired with the rest of the movie made me even more upset actually. But you're right, the cinematography on its own is fine.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Teproc on February 15, 2018, 11:32:19 AM
I think the pretty cinematography, paired with the rest of the movie made me even more upset actually. But you're right, the cinematography on its own is fine.

In the sense of it being wasted on a poor script ? Or in the sense of it being so over-the-top in its own way that it accentuated everything that seemed wrong with the film ? Because if it's the latter, that was also my initial thoughts, which led me to think it was basically the whole point.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: Corndog on February 15, 2018, 11:47:34 AM
The latter.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: pixote on February 15, 2018, 11:59:26 AM
I quit on Wonder Wheel halfway through the trailer. Efficency FTW!

pixote
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 07, 2018, 06:14:33 AM
I didn't even like the cinematography on its own in Wonder Wheel. Allen at his lowest. Well, not really, because Rome.
Title: Re: Allen, Woody
Post by: BlueVoid on May 02, 2019, 10:49:48 AM
Annie Hall
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Purple Rose of Cairo
Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Whatever Works
Manhattan
Midnight in Paris
Zelig
Radio Days
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
Sleeper
Love and Death
Sweet and Lowdown
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Scoop
Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex...
Interiors
To Rome with Love
Bananas
Alice
You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger
What's Up, Tiger Lily?
Manhattan Murder Mystery