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Title: Unpopular Movie Opinions (2008 - 2010)
Post by: roujin on April 04, 2008, 04:54:08 PM
I'm not sure if something of the sort has been brought up but here's what it is. Tell us some of your unpopular opinions.
Examples: De Palma > Hitchcock (just an example, I swear!)

To start it off: 8½ is not Fellini's best film nor is it a masterpiece!

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 04, 2008, 05:31:17 PM
Bonnie and Clyde is far from a masterpiece
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 is the most boring film I've ever seen 
The Maltese Falcon is the most annoying film I've ever seen
2001: A Space Odyssey is a pretentious load of crap


The Coen Brothers are overrated (And No Country for Old Men is only okay)
Tim Burton is a freak who needs a haircut
Billy Wilder isn't that great (Although I do love Double Indemnity (But MacMurry is miscast Adam! :P)) and overuses narration
James Stewart is a self righteous prick in about half the films he plays in
Johnny Depp is annoying when he plays over the top characters
Nicolas Cage can't play a sympathetic character to save his life

That unpopular enough for you because I can come up with more! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 04, 2008, 05:40:33 PM
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 is the most boring film I've ever seen 

An unpopular opinion would be that you like it. Like me.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 04, 2008, 06:03:24 PM
I have too many to list.

Even my popular opinions are unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 06:04:31 PM
I have too many to list.

Even my popular opinions are unpopular.
Don't give me that crap.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 04, 2008, 06:10:28 PM
See?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 06:13:01 PM
See?
Well what does this say about me? The only time I seem to agree with you is when everyone else is yelling at us.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 04, 2008, 06:15:02 PM
I think it says that the only time you're right is when everyone else is yelling at us.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 06:15:56 PM
I think it says that the only time you're right is when everyone else is yelling at us.
You really need to stop confusing me with you. I know it's hard to let go of my infallibility, but please don't self-appropriate it, that's just hurtful.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 04, 2008, 06:17:58 PM
If I'm not you, how could I self-appropriate something of yours?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
If I'm not you, how could I self-appropriate something of yours?
That's just how far gone you are. Poor guy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 04, 2008, 06:23:10 PM
I'm confusing me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 04, 2008, 06:24:36 PM
Judi Dench should be taken out... and shot

Shawshank Redemption is CINECAST!ing tedious.

All those Hero/House of a Thousand Flying Daggers-type films are glossy chores to sit through.

British films are terrible.



Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 04, 2008, 06:27:42 PM
  Doesn't this just speak to the subjective nature of viewing film?

  That's why discussing it is so fun - you put 5 people in a room, have them watch the same film and you will get 5 different experiences.

 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 04, 2008, 06:32:59 PM
Btw - Hitchcock bores me.
      - I would have liked Raging Bull so much more if it had been in color.
      - I don't like Rushmore and/or The Royal Tenenbaums - they're not that funny.
      - I watch Garden State because I like to make fun of the completely lame characters who I find totally unsympathetic, the movie sucks AND I HATE THE GODDAMNED SHINS!


   
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 04, 2008, 07:53:06 PM
Date Movie is funny.
Annie Hall is terrible.
Scorcese is overrated.
Wes Anderson movies are all bad.
Costner is a good actor.
Matrix Reloaded was the best of the three.
Princess Bride isn't THAT good.
Anchorman and Old School aren't funny.


I'll add more as they come to me.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 07:56:15 PM
      - I watch Garden State because I like to make fun of the completely lame characters who I find totally unsympathetic, the movie sucks AND I HATE THE GODDAMNED SHINS!
Wow, it's like a perfect storm of horrid for you.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 04, 2008, 07:59:07 PM
Date Movie is funny.
Annie Hall is terrible.
Scorcese is overrated.
Wes Anderson movies are all bad.
Costner is a good actor.
Matrix Reloaded was the best of the three.
Princess Bride isn't THAT good.
Anchorman and Old School aren't funny.

You must be high.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 08:01:17 PM
Date Movie is funny.
Annie Hall is terrible.
Scorcese is overrated.
Wes Anderson movies are all bad.
Costner is a good actor.
Matrix Reloaded was the best of the three.
Princess Bride isn't THAT good.
Anchorman and Old School aren't funny.

You must be high.
He always is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on April 04, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 04, 2008, 08:09:07 PM
I thought M. Night Shyamalan's "The Village" was a great film.
With the exception of "Annie Hall," I have to say that any praise for Woody Allen is unwarranted.
"28 Weeks Later" was the biggest piece of garbage I've seen in a long time, and the worst sequel since "Matrix: Reloaded."
I think Spielberg's take on "A.I." still would have been better than Kubrick's... on that note: "Eyes Wide Shut" was abysmal.
I enjoyed Joe Carnahan's "Smokin' Aces."
I thought the director's cut of "Kingdom Of Heaven" made the film one of the best period epics in film history.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 08:11:03 PM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 04, 2008, 08:16:36 PM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.

I'd like to hear how he's sexist... His films are about 20-something bachelors, who obviously are going to objectify women. He's no Pedro Almodóvar; however, I don't think we're called to praise the ignorance portrayed in these characters and their actions. We're supposed to laugh at their absurdity, not mimic them. Besides, he has many strong female characters in many of his works... just watch "Freaks And Geeks."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ses on April 04, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
Costner is a good actor.

Favorite one so far.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 04, 2008, 08:25:58 PM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.

Yes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 09:08:10 PM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.

I'd like to hear how he's sexist... His films are about 20-something bachelors, who obviously are going to objectify women.
My existence (along with countless others) refutes this statement. Please say you see the inherent problem with it.

I like Freaks and Geeks, but I wouldn't say there's anything special about the way he handles gender stereotypes in that show, it just slightly more even handed. The two films he's made could be defended, but have serious problems. He's by far at his worst when producing though. Look at the last 10 things he's produced and you'll find at least 7 that handle gender stereotypes and politics absurdly (the bad kind of absurd).
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JoshuaOst on April 04, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
Date Movie is funny.
Anchorman and Old School aren't funny.
You find Date Movie funny but not Anchorman?  I find it hard to believe that anyone could find Date Movie the least bit amusing.  And yes, I did sit through all 1 hour and 23 minutes of that piece of crap.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 04, 2008, 09:37:08 PM
Date Movie is funny.
Anchorman and Old School aren't funny.
You find Date Movie funny but not Anchorman?  I find it hard to believe that anyone could find Date Movie the least bit amusing.  And yes, I did sit through all 1 hour and 23 minutes of that piece of crap.

Doesn't that make sense though? I mean, if someone tells me they don't like Anchorman, Annie Hall or Wes Anderson, I would expect that person to like Date Movie, Matrix Reloaded and Kevin Costner. We're perfect opposites.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 04, 2008, 10:05:27 PM
I love this thread!!!

Mean Girls is the best comedy of the 21st century so far.
Christian Bale is not only a boring one-note actor, but every movie he is in is worse because of his performance.
Lindsay Lohan is a talented actress, and has given some very good performances.
Superbad is not only gratuitous and disgusting, but not one bit funny.
Anna Farris is one of generations best female comedic actresses.
Matt Damon's best performances were in the Bourne movies, and nothing else he's done has ever come close to matching those movies.
Amy Adams is the second greatest living actress, behind Meryl Streep.
Mark Waters is a better director than Brian De Palma.
Zodiac is nothing more than your average crime mystery film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 10:10:39 PM
Mark Waters is a better director than Brian De Palma.
I haven't seen Freaky Friday and I was only lukewarm at best on Mean Girls and I'm pretty sure I still agree with this.

I won't comment on the rest.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 04, 2008, 10:51:05 PM
      - I watch Garden State because I like to make fun of the completely lame characters who I find totally unsympathetic, the movie sucks AND I HATE THE GODDAMNED SHINS!
Wow, it's like a perfect storm of horrid for you.

  I have never shown this film any love on the boards - in fact I started disliking Natalie Portman because of this, and that's pretty hard to do considering how much I loved her in Beautiful Girls...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 04, 2008, 10:59:11 PM
I think I'm starting to develop a reputation as having pretty terrible taste in movies. Rue the day we happen to agree on something!  ;)

As for Date Movie, sure it's deadly stupid, but sometimes stupid is funny. Case in point. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rCC_AnR7Z9w)

For the record Epic Movie is a bad movie, and not funny. Don't be lumping 'em all together.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 04, 2008, 11:01:03 PM
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Anna Farris is one of generations best female comedic actresses.

Agreed. (and seriously hot (see May))
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 04, 2008, 11:02:52 PM
How about this one?

Crash is a good movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 04, 2008, 11:04:32 PM
How about this one?

Crash is a good movie.
I think that's the opposite of popular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 04, 2008, 11:15:14 PM
The Star Wars prequels were good, except for Ep. 1, which is just okay.
Most musicals suck.
The Seventh Seal was lame.
Changing Lanes is a very good movie.
Most of the kids/family films of the last 15 years or so are garbage.
Just because a movie is trying to be fun does NOT make it good. (Transformers, Pirates, Live Free or Die Hard)
Last summer was a terrible movie summer.(See above examples....)

I like this thread! ;D

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 04, 2008, 11:17:37 PM
Annie Hall is terrible.
Princess Bride isn't THAT good.

I agree with both sentiments but figure I'd be stoned if I touched either film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 04, 2008, 11:26:12 PM
Back to the Future gets way to much love.
Indiana Jones gets way to much love.
V for Vendetta wasn't just good it was excellent!
There wasn't one good Bond movie before Goldeneye (I've watched every single one sadly).

Oh and I didn't say I liked Costner, just that he was a good actor.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 04, 2008, 11:28:38 PM
I agree with both sentiments but figure I'd be stoned if I touched either film.

Don't hold back. I bet you're itching to drop a major bomb.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 01:12:25 AM
Kevin Smith is a terrible writer and director.
I love Signs.
I hate Juno
I like Godfather III
Zodiac was mediocre
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: philip918 on April 05, 2008, 03:30:31 AM
Kevin Smith is a terrible writer and director.

That's an unpopular opinion?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 07:10:06 AM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.

I'd like to hear how he's sexist... His films are about 20-something bachelors, who obviously are going to objectify women.
My existence (along with countless others) refutes this statement. Please say you see the inherent problem with it.

I see what you're saying, but as a counterargument it doesn't hold up. I, for one, am probably more like you.. one who doesn't talk about my genetalia whenever the chance arises, degrade women on a regular basis, and watches porn at all times in the day... with that said, I think there are people out there like the characters in this film. In fact, I know 2 that live in the apartment above me.. they're both 25.. they play "Rock Band" all day and talk about women in the same fashion. The last time I had a few beers with them, I swear I was in a Apatow comedy. Just because you are different from the characters in these films, doesn't mean they don't reflect real life people. And besides, you totally dismissed my argument on how Apatow is not asking us to emulate and/or sympathize with these characters.. we're supposed to be offended by the raunchiness of Romany Malco's misguided teachings of the "taming" the other sex. I think we're being too hard on Mr. Apatow.. who, with a wife and two girls, probably has great respect and admiration for the women in his life.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 07:16:28 AM
The Star Wars prequels were good, except for Ep. 1, which is just okay.

I would agree; however, I would argue that Episode 1 was the strongest of the bunch, because it's the only one of the three that felt like a true Star Wars film. The pacing of the film and the story whipped up a gust of nostalgia in me. So much so, that I saw it 4 times in the theater... Honestly, I think Episode II is just complete garbage... by far the worst in the series.

Most of the kids/family films of the last 15 years or so are garbage.
Just because a movie is trying to be fun does NOT make it good. (Transformers, Pirates, Live Free or Die Hard)

I don't think these are unpopular movie opinions... well, at least not in these forums.  ;D

Zodiac was mediocre

Oh, damn you.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on April 05, 2008, 08:32:48 AM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.

I'd like to hear how he's sexist... His films are about 20-something bachelors, who obviously are going to objectify women.
My existence (along with countless others) refutes this statement. Please say you see the inherent problem with it.

I see what you're saying, but as a counterargument it doesn't hold up. I, for one, am probably more like you.. one who doesn't talk about my genetalia whenever the chance arises, degrade women on a regular basis, and watches porn at all times in the day... with that said, I think there are people out there like the characters in this film. In fact, I know 2 that live in the apartment above me.. they're both 25.. they play "Rock Band" all day and talk about women in the same fashion. The last time I had a few beers with them, I swear I was in a Apatow comedy. Just because you are different from the characters in these films, doesn't mean they don't reflect real life people. And besides, you totally dismissed my argument on how Apatow is not asking us to emulate and/or sympathize with these characters.. we're supposed to be offended by the raunchiness of Romany Malco's misguided teachings of the "taming" the other sex. I think we're being too hard on Mr. Apatow.. who, with a wife and two girls, probably has great respect and admiration for the women in his life.

Solid Blake, can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
Kevin Smith is a terrible writer and director.
I love Signs.

;D

I hate Juno
Zodiac was mediocre

 :'(

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 08:59:43 AM
Solid Blake, can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 

Saltine, I see what you're trying to say.. but I think you're presenting a straw man argument. Just because Apatow hasn't made a film about empowered women instantly makes him a sexist film-maker? Do we live in a sexist society that condones such behavior in his films? Yes. Nevertheless, I think your example needs some rethinking.. both examples display a "life-boat ideology" (by that, I mean each character... no matter what their gender/race/cultural background is... has already been defined with more "worth," thus securing their place on the lifeboat.. whilst others have to prove themselves to avoid being thrown overboard.)... and if we are to strive for gender equality, we can't think in those terms in the first place. Believe me, I'm all for it.. I live with a very empowered feminist, who I've been with for 3 years now. I've dealt with gender issues when I was a leader of Student for Social Justice (SSJ) for four years. I understand the hills we have to climb;however, I don't think it starts with nit-picking at fictional characters we're supposed to be laughing at, and not with.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on April 05, 2008, 09:39:22 AM
People who enjoy Apatow are not necessarily sexist so I'm not painting with a broad brush here and I'm not imputing your intent as sexist.  I don't believe that's true at all.  I'm simply saying that his film presents a situation which only works with an audience because it re-enforces ideas which are prevalent in our society concerning the status of men and women in relationships.  I think films aren't only a reflection of society, but have an effect of sanctioning behaviors that don't serve the greater good.  I want to laugh at funny stuff on film too, but Apatow is funny at a price and I'm not willing to pay that price.  It irks me that Apatow is the "voice" of the coming generation of men.  (Apatow himself may be a lovely man, but the men he presents on screen aren't.)       
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 05, 2008, 09:46:48 AM
Worst examples of sexism? UK TV commercials, and I suspect American commercials (to a lesser extent). Appalling adverts such as the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdtjvAUnnfg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdtjvAUnnfg)

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
Judd Apatow is over-rated, not to mention a sexist. 
That's true.

I'd like to hear how he's sexist... His films are about 20-something bachelors, who obviously are going to objectify women.
My existence (along with countless others) refutes this statement. Please say you see the inherent problem with it.

I see what you're saying, but as a counterargument it doesn't hold up. I, for one, am probably more like you.. one who doesn't talk about my genetalia whenever the chance arises, degrade women on a regular basis, and watches porn at all times in the day... with that said, I think there are people out there like the characters in this film. In fact, I know 2 that live in the apartment above me.. they're both 25.. they play "Rock Band" all day and talk about women in the same fashion. The last time I had a few beers with them, I swear I was in a Apatow comedy. Just because you are different from the characters in these films, doesn't mean they don't reflect real life people. And besides, you totally dismissed my argument on how Apatow is not asking us to emulate and/or sympathize with these characters.. we're supposed to be offended by the raunchiness of Romany Malco's misguided teachings of the "taming" the other sex. I think we're being too hard on Mr. Apatow.. who, with a wife and two girls, probably has great respect and admiration for the women in his life.
You can't validate the stereotype that you are using to defend the film by pointing to a regular occurrence of the real-life analogue. It's not to say that those people don't exist, but their existence doesn't make their regressive depiction ok, especially when they're handled so positively.

Also, having a wife and two girls doesn't say anything about how he thinks. That said, in his directed films, he is not the worst offender out there, probably by far. I'll reiterate what I said earlier, he seems much worse when you see the things he's attached to that he didn't direct.

Just as an example though, a number of critics have pointed out that you would have never ever seen Knocked Up with the female and her female friends in the same roles as the main character and his friends, as less than likable losers getting the sexy male mate. The fact that it all but certainly doesn't work with is pretty clear to me. It's not an uncommon trope for what people are calling the "nerd fantasy".
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 05, 2008, 10:30:52 AM
I agree with both sentiments but figure I'd be stoned if I touched either film.

Don't hold back. I bet you're itching to drop a major bomb.  :)
Sixth Sense in Shamalan's worst film (Yes, even worse than Lady in the Water). There, I said it! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 05, 2008, 10:38:25 AM
I agree with both sentiments but figure I'd be stoned if I touched either film.

Don't hold back. I bet you're itching to drop a major bomb.  :)
Sixth Sense in Shamalan's worst film (Yes, even worse than Lady in the Water). There, I said it! :P

While I disagree, The Village is terrible, I give you kudos for getting into the spirit of the thread!

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 10:52:05 AM
How about this one?

Crash is a good movie.

  Now you're just makin stuff up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 11:09:29 AM
Solid Blake, can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 

No impregnations, but how about:

Cinderella
Pretty Woman
She's All That
American Pie

None of the women in these films are homely or overweight, but they are rejects either economically or socially that are transformed by a relationship with a successful man in the same way Rogan is transformed by his relationship in Knocked Up.

I don't necessarily have a side in this fight, I just like a "naming movies" challenge.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
People who enjoy Apatow are not necessarily sexist so I'm not painting with a broad brush here and I'm not imputing your intent as sexist.  I don't believe that's true at all.  I'm simply saying that his film presents a situation which only works with an audience because it re-enforces ideas which are prevalent in our society concerning the status of men and women in relationships.  I think films aren't only a reflection of society, but have an effect of sanctioning behaviors that don't serve the greater good.  I want to laugh at funny stuff on film too, but Apatow is funny at a price and I'm not willing to pay that price.  It irks me that Apatow is the "voice" of the coming generation of men.  (Apatow himself may be a lovely man, but the men he presents on screen aren't.)       

You rock, Saltine. (You do, too, face.)


None of the women in these films are homely or overweight

Exactly. I think you failed the naming movies challenge, Sean.  :) 
Both Pretty Woman and Cinderella (I haven't seen the other two) are extremely problematic both from a feminist and a class standpoint.

Muriel's Wedding is maybe the closest thing to your description I can think of, Saltine? Hot, rich guy comes to apprectiate and even finds himself sexually attracted to slightly overweight, homely woman who ultimately rejects his offer to marry (stay married to) her because she discovers she doesn't need a man to complete her fairy tale.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 05, 2008, 12:03:40 PM
This probably isn't surprising to most of you, but I really don't like Star Wars.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 12:15:18 PM
the bourne movies are way overrated
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 12:43:16 PM
This thread upsets me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 12:46:25 PM
it upsets me as well, but instead of arguing and showing how wrong everyone is i have decided to share my correct thoughts.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 12:51:41 PM
Ok, let me try:

Head of State is one of the best comedies of the new millennium
Scorsese is very hit-and-miss
Wes Anderson's movies aren't funny
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is quite flawed
Soderbergh hasn't made a single bad film
George Clooney is one of the greatest working directors
Zodiac is Fincher's best film, and the second-best film of the new millennium
O Brother, Where Art Thou? is the Coen Brothers' second-best film


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 12:54:45 PM
Ok, let me try:

Head of State is one of the best comedies of the new millennium
Scorsese is very hit-and-miss
Wes Anderson's movies aren't funny
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is quite flawed
Soderbergh hasn't made a single bad film
Zodiac is Fincher's best film, and the second-best film of the new millennium
O Brother, Where Art Thou? is the Coen Brothers' second-best film

 :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
The Departed isn't that great of a film, not nearly as good as Casino.

Lucas should be shot for adding those extra scenes in A New Hope...

Boogie Nights is better than There Will Be Blood.

I don't understand David Lynch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 05, 2008, 01:05:52 PM
Boogie Nights is better than There Will Be Blood.

I don't understand David Lynch.

It is way better!

I don't need to understand David Lynch to enjoy his films.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 01:07:07 PM
No it isn't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 01:08:03 PM
Is too!

This thread is on fire...

What great fun this is to finally voice my inner thoughts...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 01:10:52 PM
Ok - I will just get this out - I didn't like TWBB - I didn't like any of the characters...not even in a "it's fun to hate them" sort of way. The only one I could even sympathize with was his son and he was just a sidebar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 01:23:34 PM
People who enjoy Apatow are not necessarily sexist so I'm not painting with a broad brush here and I'm not imputing your intent as sexist.  I don't believe that's true at all.  I'm simply saying that his film presents a situation which only works with an audience because it re-enforces ideas which are prevalent in our society concerning the status of men and women in relationships.  I think films aren't only a reflection of society, but have an effect of sanctioning behaviors that don't serve the greater good.  I want to laugh at funny stuff on film too, but Apatow is funny at a price and I'm not willing to pay that price.  It irks me that Apatow is the "voice" of the coming generation of men.  (Apatow himself may be a lovely man, but the men he presents on screen aren't.)       

You rock, Saltine. (You do, too, face.)


None of the women in these films are homely or overweight

Exactly. I think you failed the naming movies challenge, Sean.  :) 
Both Pretty Woman and Cinderella (I haven't seen the other two) are extremely problematic both from a feminist and a class standpoint.

Muriel's Wedding is maybe the closest thing to your description I can think of, Saltine? Hot, rich guy comes to apprectiate and even finds himself sexually attracted to slightly overweight, homely woman who ultimately rejects his offer to marry (stay married to) her because she discovers she doesn't need a man to complete her fairy tale.


In a lot of ways, the other two films are more egregious.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 05, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
Spiderman 3 was the best in the series, and even then it's not very good.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 01:38:58 PM
Spiderman 3 was the best in the series, and even then it's not very good.

AGREED!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: philip918 on April 05, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
Solid Blake, can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 

Again, no impregnations, but Pride and Prejudice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 05, 2008, 02:12:22 PM
O Brother, Where Art Thou? is the Coen Brothers' second-best film
I agree. After No Country which I don't really even like that much... :o
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 02:45:36 PM
None of the women in these films are homely or overweight

Exactly. I think you failed the naming movies challenge, Sean.  :) 

Only if it's the (un)attractiveness of Seth Rogan that makes the film sexist.  The girl in She's All That is considered unattractive by her peers until she puts on make-up and takes off her glasses.  This is a general criticism of the movie vision of attractiveness as opposed to an Apatow-specific critique.

I don't think Rogan's that bad-looking anyway.  He's no Charles Laughton or anything.

Both Pretty Woman and Cinderella (I haven't seen the other two) are extremely problematic both from a feminist and a class standpoint.

If it's not his looks but instead his social status as a geeky burn-out, then the Cinderella analogy works.  And if it does then twist the film gives to the respective gender roles can be seen as a feminist take on the story, giving the woman the powerful rescuer role in the relationship.


Muriel's Wedding is maybe the closest thing to your description I can think of, Saltine? Hot, rich guy comes to apprectiate and even finds himself sexually attracted to slightly overweight, homely woman who ultimately rejects his offer to marry (stay married to) her because she discovers she doesn't need a man to complete her fairy tale.

Strictly Ballroom?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 03:23:27 PM
Snow Angels is not a very good movie.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 03:42:05 PM
Snow Angels is not a very good movie.

pixote
Do most people say it is? All I know is it had an awful trailer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 05, 2008, 03:42:56 PM
Awful, awful trailer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 03:43:59 PM
Snow Angels is not a very good movie.
Do most people say it is? All I know is it had an awful trailer.

I haven't read any reviews.  I was just going off this thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3352.0).

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
None of the women in these films are homely or overweight

Exactly. I think you failed the naming movies challenge, Sean.  :) 

Only if it's the (un)attractiveness of Seth Rogan that makes the film sexist.  The girl in She's All That is considered unattractive by her peers until she puts on make-up and takes off her glasses.  This is a general criticism of the movie vision of attractiveness as opposed to an Apatow-specific critique.

I don't think Rogan's that bad-looking anyway.  He's no Charles Laughton or anything.

Both Pretty Woman and Cinderella (I haven't seen the other two) are extremely problematic both from a feminist and a class standpoint.

If it's not his looks but instead his social status as a geeky burn-out, then the Cinderella analogy works.  And if it does then twist the film gives to the respective gender roles can be seen as a feminist take on the story, giving the woman the powerful rescuer role in the relationship.


Muriel's Wedding is maybe the closest thing to your description I can think of, Saltine? Hot, rich guy comes to apprectiate and even finds himself sexually attracted to slightly overweight, homely woman who ultimately rejects his offer to marry (stay married to) her because she discovers she doesn't need a man to complete her fairy tale.

Strictly Ballroom?

I think the unattractiveness of Seth Rogan is a huge part of the sexism present in the film. (No, he's not that bad-looking, but he's no hottie. **huge understatement alert** And he's certainly mismatched with Catherine Hegel on the attractiveness scale, don't you think?) Women become acceptable and valuable when they put on make-up and become physically attractive - Strictly Ballroom, Cinderella are good examples of that (also something like the Breakfast Club scenario which Ellen Page pointed out). The unattractive woman has to change her looks - and she does it primarily for men or they do it for her, Pygmalion-style, while men, like Rogan's character, can just be who they are.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on April 05, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
Everything about Seth Rogan's character in Knocked Up is meant to portray a loser: his hair, his face, his weight, his clothes, his friends, his lack of ambition, his pot smoking, his apartment, all of it.  Everything about Katherine Hegel's character is meant to portray a winner: her hair, her face, her figure, her clothes, her family, her ambition, her success, her lifestyle, all of it.  Apatow's casting is no accident.

Clearly:  the loser (male) wins the winner (female).  Yes, this makes the film sexist.  I have other issues with Apatow's scripts also, but this portrait of the male/female relationship annoys me the most.

BTW, Elizabeth Bennett is not in the same English social class as Mr. Darcey, but she's not a loser.  She's brilliant, clever, and socially capable.  All that happens to figure largely into the entire point the novel is making.  If you think she's a loser who got the rich guy, you really need to re-read the novel or rethink your position.

Glad to get all this off my chest.  Carry on!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: tjwells on April 05, 2008, 05:08:52 PM
Late on this, but I agree on 8 1/2 not being Fellini's best film. For me, it's La Dolce Vita (the 3-disc special edition is CINECAST!ing epic).
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 05, 2008, 05:58:56 PM
Everything about Seth Rogan's character in Knocked Up is meant to portray a loser: his hair, his face, his weight, his clothes, his friends, his lack of ambition, his pot smoking, his apartment, all of it.  Everything about Katherine Hegel's character is meant to portray a winner: her hair, her face, her figure, her clothes, her family, her ambition, her success, her lifestyle, all of it.  Apatow's casting is no accident.

Clearly:  the loser (male) wins the winner (female).  Yes, this makes the film sexist.  I have other issues with Apatow's scripts also, but this portrait of the male/female relationship annoys me the most.

But I think you're mistaking sexism for his movies simply being the kind of stories he wants to tell.  In Knocked Up, he's interested in telling of the loser guy who "wins" the ideal girl.  He's not saying that this is how it always happens, nor is he making any larger statements about this situation.  He's just telling the story of these two people.  Whether one character is rich, ambitious, or successful in their career doesn't somehow make them a better person.  Its just a story of an unconventional couple, not any broader statements on class relations.  (You mentioned Pride and Prejudice, which I don't think is an apt comparison to Knocked Up, because the setting is so insanely different.  I do agree with your take on Austen's novel, however.)

Plus, there is another couple in Knocked Up, what do that couple bring to the table?  They both seem to be about equal in flaws/endearing qualities. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 06:00:19 PM
Zodiac was mediocre

Oh, damn you.  :P

please don't damn me.  :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 06:06:45 PM
I think the unattractiveness of Seth Rogan is a huge part of the sexism present in the film. (No, he's not that bad-looking, but he's no hottie. **huge understatement alert** And he's certainly mismatched with Catherine Hegel on the attractiveness scale, don't you think?) Women become acceptable and valuable when they put on make-up and become physically attractive - Strictly Ballroom, Cinderella are good examples of that (also something like the Breakfast Club scenario which Ellen Page pointed out). The unattractive woman has to change her looks - and she does it primarily for men or they do it for her, Pygmalion-style, while men, like Rogan's character, can just be who they are.

Correct me if I'm misremembering the end of the film, but doesn't Rogan clean himself up, get a real job and a nice apartment in an effort to change himself to conform to Heigel's standards?  How is this different?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
Clearly:  the loser (male) wins the winner (female).  Yes, this makes the film sexist.  I have other issues with Apatow's scripts also, but this portrait of the male/female relationship annoys me the most.

So you'd say that Pretty Woman is sexist against men?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 06:09:15 PM
And he's certainly mismatched with Catherine Hegel on the attractiveness scale, don't you think?)

Not really.  These things are subjective.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 06:17:06 PM
But I think you're mistaking sexism for his movies simply being the kind of stories he wants to tell.  In Knocked Up, he's interested in telling of the loser guy who "wins" the ideal girl.   

It's too simplistic to say that it's just the story he wants to tell - if his storyline was unique that would be one thing, but he's playing into a well-documented Hollywood stereotype/male fantasy.

can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 

And still Saltine's challenge goes unanswered . . .
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 06:20:15 PM
can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 

And still Saltine's challenge goes unanswered . . .

Hoop Dreams?

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 06:24:43 PM
And he's certainly mismatched with Catherine Hegel on the attractiveness scale, don't you think?)

Not really.  These things are subjective.

Find me one woman who thinks Seth Rogan is truly hot.

can you name one movie in which a truly HOT, upwardly mobile, climbing the ladder quickly guy unintentionally impregnates a homely, overweight, slightly obnoxious yet underneath-it-all sweet woman and sees her through the pregnancy and even hangs around to help rear their "love child"? 

And still Saltine's challenge goes unanswered . . .

Hoop Dreams?

pixote

I imagine you could find some real life examples.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on April 05, 2008, 07:14:21 PM
Clearly:  the loser (male) wins the winner (female).  Yes, this makes the film sexist.  I have other issues with Apatow's scripts also, but this portrait of the male/female relationship annoys me the most.

So you'd say that Pretty Woman is sexist against men?

My premise is that Apatow (not Garry Marshall) is a sexist based on the films he makes and the films he associates himself with. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 05, 2008, 07:18:30 PM
He's probably just a bit nerdish, in a harmless way.


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 07:27:36 PM
I think this sexist argument went downhill when the emphasis went onto the "hotness" of each character. It's funny, the degrees of success and attractiveness seem to be the only issues discussed, when neither of the characters' endearing personality traits are even touched on. I understand and appreciate everyone's input into this fruitful debate; however, I think we need to step back and realize we're labeling a story of an unlikely relationship which, at the center, is about overcoming differences through falling in love and accepting responsibilities, as "sexist" and "inappropriate." Honestly, if we really wanted to get all hot and bothered over sexism in film, we could easily look elsewhere.  :P

P.S. Sorry I wasn't around to pitch in, I was out all day getting my dog checked up at the vet.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 07:57:35 PM
P.S. Sorry I wasn't around to pitch in, I was out all day getting my dog checked up at the vet.
Make sure to post the results of all that somewhere else.

As for hotness, it can't be discarded because it is a significant point of plot and humor for the movie. Much of the jokes pivot on how desirable in every way Heigl is and how undesirable in every way Rogan is. Unless you can make the argument that neither character is interested in physical attraction, it's unavoidable. Hotness, while subjective in real life, can be codified on film simply by positioning a character as hot by consensus of the rest of the characters or simply by plot device/genre convention. Again, unless you're ready to contend these things don't happen in relation to Heigl and in opposition to Rogan, they can't be discounted.

But I reiterate, post about your pup somewhere.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 07:57:52 PM
I think this sexist argument went downhill when the emphasis went onto the "hotness" of each character. It's funny, the degrees of success and attractiveness seem to be the only issues discussed, when neither of the characters' endearing personality traits are even touched on. I understand and appreciate everyone's input into this fruitful debate; however, I think we need to step back and realize we're labeling a story of an unlikely relationship which, at the center, is about overcoming differences through falling in love and accepting responsibilities, as "sexist" and "inappropriate." Honestly, if we really wanted to get all hot and bothered over sexism in film, we could easily look elsewhere.  :P

"Class dismissed."  :)



I know the hotness issue sounds juvenile, but I think it still does play into the making and reinforcing of Hollywood stereotypes. (And yeah, what face said. More eloquently than I.) And certainly we could look elsewhere, but given Apatow's run of films, he's a good place to start.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:02:06 PM
Also: Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind = grossly over rated film.

I rank it down there with Garden State...

Jesus! We should have done this thread a long time ago...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
Also: Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind = grossly over rated film.

I rank it down there with Garden State...

Jesus! We should have done this thread a long time ago...
Feels cathartic does it?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 05, 2008, 08:05:17 PM
Hotness, while subjective in real life, can be codified on film simply by positioning a character as hot by consensus of the rest of the characters or simply by plot device/genre convention.

Or a tagline

(http://www.poptower.com/images/db/925/420/300/knocked-up.jpg)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
We should probably lock and erase this thing when we are through.  ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Find me one woman who thinks Seth Rogan is truly hot.

If that's not sexist. . . .

And still Saltine's challenge goes unanswered . . .

I answered it, you just didn't like my answer.  Not the same thing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:07:52 PM
We should probably lock and erase this thing when we are through.  ;D
Why, whats gonna happen? I still haven't said much here cause I can't think of anything that I haven't already said elsewhere on the boards. If anything, this place will prevent me from publicly beating the works of Sofia Coppola and Brian De Palma.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 05, 2008, 08:10:13 PM
Clearly:  the loser (male) wins the winner (female).  Yes, this makes the film sexist.  I have other issues with Apatow's scripts also, but this portrait of the male/female relationship annoys me the most.

So you'd say that Pretty Woman is sexist against men?

My premise is that Apatow (not Garry Marshall) is a sexist based on the films he makes and the films he associates himself with. 

And my question was if you think Garry Marshall is sexist against men based on the film he made.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:11:03 PM
Maybe I should have used [sarcasm] tags...

I am totally enjoying this...please more revelations!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:12:08 PM
Maybe I should have used [sarcasm] tags...

I am totally enjoying this...please more revelations!
See and here I thought you found genuine feeling. How silly, go back to your sleaze with pride.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 08:12:33 PM
Praying that someone brings Beaches into this discussion...

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:13:35 PM
Praying that someone brings Beaches into this discussion...

pixote
What about Beaches?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 05, 2008, 08:17:50 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen, and Alien3 is a far better movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 05, 2008, 08:18:52 PM
Also: Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind = grossly over rated film.

I rank it down there with Garden State...

Jesus! We should have done this thread a long time ago...
Feels cathartic does it?
That it is. Even if I disagree it's fun to vent and see others do it in a slightly sensational manner.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 08:19:03 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen...

I guess this means you haven't watched Godfather II yet...

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 08:19:34 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen, and Alien3 is a far better movie.

Now you're just CINECAST!ing with us.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:19:44 PM
Maybe I should have used [sarcasm] tags...

I am totally enjoying this...please more revelations!
See and here I thought you found genuine feeling. How silly, go back to your sleaze with pride.

  Are you kiddin me?
  I was being sarcastic when I said we should lock and erase this....we should make this a sticky and use this thread for reference.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:20:13 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen...

I guess this means you haven't watched Godfather II yet...

pixote

  Bite your tongue!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 08:21:04 PM
Find me one woman who thinks Seth Rogan is truly hot.

If that's not sexist. . . .

Come now, I was merely trying to demonstrate that your saying attractiveness is purely subjective was a cop-out. Hollywood, certainly, has a very specific idea of what hotness is, and as Saltine pointed out earlier, who's hot and who's not is emphasized in the film. And while I'm sure Rogan is a very cool person - I've heard some great interviews with him -I'm doubting that he's plastered for his sex appeal on the walls of teenage girls' rooms.

And still Saltine's challenge goes unanswered . . .
I answered it, you just didn't like my answer.  Not the same thing.

By "unanswered," I meant her challenge still stands. You didn't meet her essential criteria.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 08:21:15 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen...

I guess this means you haven't watched Godfather II yet...

pixote

  Bite your tongue!

I'll bite pixote's tongue.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 05, 2008, 08:22:32 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen...

I guess this means you haven't watched Godfather II yet...

You are correct, person of unknown gender!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:22:46 PM
I am waiting to see skjerva post that he secretly loves Showgirls...heheheh
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:23:09 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen...

I guess this means you haven't watched Godfather II yet...

pixote
EVIL!

Maybe I should have used [sarcasm] tags...

I am totally enjoying this...please more revelations!
See and here I thought you found genuine feeling. How silly, go back to your sleaze with pride.

  Are you kiddin me?
  I was being sarcastic when I said we should lock and erase this....we should make this a sticky and use this thread for reference.
Yes I'm kidding you.

Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen, and Alien3 is a far better movie.
This = Truth.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 05, 2008, 08:23:24 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen, and Alien3 is a far better movie.

Now you're just CINECAST!ing with us.

I don't disagree with Junior.

EDIT: and faceboy. I guess this one is not so unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 05, 2008, 08:24:29 PM
People complain about Alien3 not being similar to Aliens when they should complain that Aliens isn't anything at all like Alien.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 05, 2008, 08:25:37 PM
This is getting truly painful.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 05, 2008, 08:25:46 PM
and to keep the thread going

On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the best Bond movie
The Brown Bunny is a good movie
3:10 to Yuma is one of the worst remakes in recent memory
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 05, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
Aliens is one of the worst sequels I have seen, and Alien3 is a far better movie.

Now you're just CINECAST!ing with us.

It's sort of true. Aliens is a good action movie, but Alien is clearly the best, with Alien3 coming second to my tastes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:44:02 PM
Aliens is a bad film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 05, 2008, 08:48:23 PM
No it's not - it's a great action film. It's my #2 in the series...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 08:51:05 PM
Tim Burton has made a a few great films, but he is pretty much overrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 08:52:01 PM
Jurassic Park II & III are fun movies
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
No it's not - it's a great action film. It's my #2 in the series...
It's campy pap with the worst lighting scheme I can think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 08:56:14 PM
Last Year at Marienbad is campy pap.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on April 05, 2008, 08:56:48 PM
Tim Burton has made a a few great films, but he is pretty much overrated.

You can't simply say Tim Burton sucks, can you, chester?  Gotta couch your criticism in niceness, huh? 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 09:00:00 PM
Last Year at Marienbad is campy pap.

pixote
I won't be biting, thank you.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 09:02:39 PM
Bite your tongue!
I'll bite pixote's tongue.
I won't be biting, thank you.

It's a theme!

Wait, are we only supposed to post opinions we agree with?

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 09:04:29 PM
Tim Burton has made a a few great films, but he is pretty much overrated.

You can't simply say Tim Burton sucks, can you, chester?  Gotta couch your criticism in niceness, huh? 

i don't think he sucks at all
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 05, 2008, 09:06:51 PM
3:10 to Yuma was indeed terrible.
The Assassination of Jesse James stunk.
Oldboy was bad.
Brett Ratner isn't bad at what he does, he's decent.
Tarintino has made 1 truly good movie.


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 09:11:10 PM
Bite your tongue!
I'll bite pixote's tongue.
I won't be biting, thank you.

It's a theme!

Wait, are we only supposed to post opinions we agree with?

pixote
Yeah, probably.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 05, 2008, 09:12:31 PM
Wait, are we only supposed to post opinions we agree with?
Yeah, probably.

Dances With Wolves is a better film than Braveheart... ?

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 09:12:54 PM
Wait, are we only supposed to post opinions we agree with?
Yeah, probably.

Dances With Wolves is a better film than Braveheart... ?

pixote
Sure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 09:13:25 PM
3:10 to Yuma was indeed terrible.
The Assassination of Jesse James stunk.
Oldboy was bad.
Brett Ratner isn't bad at what he does, he's decent.
Tarintino has made 1 truly good movie.




dude, you are killing me!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 09:15:54 PM

I guess this means you haven't watched Godfather II yet...

pixote

........
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 05, 2008, 09:22:33 PM
The Assassination of Jesse James stunk.
Oldboy was bad.
Brett Ratner isn't bad at what he does, he's decent.
Tarintino has made 1 truly good movie.

Yep, still perfect opposites. How did we both end up not liking 3:10 to Yuma, though?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 09:28:40 PM
Brett Ratner isn't bad at what he does, he's decent.

I actually think he is excellent at what he does. making crap movies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 05, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
Some of this is just crazy talk.

I want to play too!

Zodiac is just an episode of Law & Order with better shots and an A-list cast.  And less character development.

Stanley Kubrick is just George Lucas with a library card.

Peter Jackson deserves his praise simply for pulling an exciting and engaging story out from what amounts to little more than a textbook for a made-up language.

Clint Eastwood belongs in front of the camera, but never, ever behind it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 09:35:13 PM
Stanley Kubrick is just George Lucas with a library card.

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
Some of this is just crazy talk.

I want to play too!

Zodiac is just an episode of Law & Order with better shots and an A-list cast.  And less character development.

Stanley Kubrick is just George Lucas with a library card.

Peter Jackson deserves his praise simply for pulling an exciting and engaging story out from what amounts to little more than a textbook for a made-up language.

Clint Eastwood belongs in front of the camera, but never, ever behind it.


All but one of these is insane. The other one is just an overstatement.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 05, 2008, 09:56:43 PM
Some of this is just crazy talk.

I want to play too!

Zodiac is just an episode of Law & Order with better shots and an A-list cast.  And less character development.

Stanley Kubrick is just George Lucas with a library card.

Peter Jackson deserves his praise simply for pulling an exciting and engaging story out from what amounts to little more than a textbook for a made-up language.

Clint Eastwood belongs in front of the camera, but never, ever behind it.


All but one of these is insane. The other one is just an overstatement.

Just fitting in.

I found this just a minute ago, and seemed appropriate for this thread:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1262/1403420644_c6dcf6e06d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
So you read new york magazine?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 05, 2008, 10:07:33 PM
No, but I do read Dan Clowes and Mister Wonderful is available on-line. 

However, I ran across the panel while looking for something cool to swipe for a new avatar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 10:09:08 PM
No, but I do read Dan Clowes and Mister Wonderful is available on-line. 

However, I ran across the panel while looking for something cool to swipe for a new avatar.
Yeah, I read Mister Wonderful online too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 10:34:55 PM
The world has gone bat-sh*t crazy.   :o
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 10:36:39 PM
The world has gone bat-sh*t crazy.   :o
Nah, always has been. I mean Aliens? A good film? So much crazy in the world.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 10:41:07 PM
Dude, I was 8 years old when I first saw "Aliens" ... you think I gave a damn about the lighting?  ::)

This was my thought process at the time: "Alien has one alien... Aliens has more than one. Coooool."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 05, 2008, 10:41:44 PM
Jurassic Park II & III are fun movies
I agree! ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2008, 10:42:40 PM
Jurassic Park (I) is not a fun movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 05, 2008, 10:42:40 PM
Dude, I was 8 years old when I first saw "Aliens" ... you think I gave a damn about the lighting?  ::)

This was my thought process at the time: "Alien has one alien... Aliens has more than one. Coooool."
Which is why you are wrong. Many 8 year olds would like to marry siblings or other relatives, would you stand by that?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 10:50:47 PM
sub·jec·tive
adj.

1.
  a. Proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external world: a subjective decision.
  b. Particular to a given person; personal: subjective experience.

2. Moodily introspective.

3. Existing only in the mind; illusory.

4. Psychology Existing only within the experiencer's mind.

5. Medicine Of, relating to, or designating a symptom or condition perceived by the patient and not by the examiner.

6. Expressing or bringing into prominence the individuality of the artist or author.

7. Grammar Relating to or being the nominative case.

8. Method of gaining attention through grandiose, quasi-believable statements contrary to popular opinion.

       example: "Stanley Kubrick is just George Lucas with a library card."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 05, 2008, 10:53:08 PM
Dude, I was 8 years old when I first saw "Aliens" ... you think I gave a damn about the lighting?  ::)

This was my thought process at the time: "Alien has one alien... Aliens has more than one. Coooool."
Which is why you are wrong. Many 8 year olds would like to marry siblings or other relatives, would you stand by that?

Ya darn tootin'. I was raised in da South.. where we keep all in the family!

(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/allinthefamilyauto.jpg)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 05, 2008, 10:58:02 PM
Brett Ratner isn't bad at what he does, he's decent.

I actually think he is excellent at what he does. making crap movies.

I lol'd.

Come on, what's wrong with Rush Hour and Family Man? They were enjoyable.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 05, 2008, 11:43:40 PM
i just don't like his stuff.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 06, 2008, 12:31:29 AM
Find me one woman who thinks Seth Rogan is truly hot.

If that's not sexist. . . .

Come now, I was merely trying to demonstrate that your saying attractiveness is purely subjective was a cop-out. Hollywood, certainly, has a very specific idea of what hotness is, and as Saltine pointed out earlier, who's hot and who's not is emphasized in the film. And while I'm sure Rogan is a very cool person - I've heard some great interviews with him -I'm doubting that he's plastered for his sex appeal on the walls of teenage girls' rooms.

Right, the problem is with Hollywood, not just Apatow.  I agree 100%.

And still Saltine's challenge goes unanswered . . .
I answered it, you just didn't like my answer.  Not the same thing.
By "unanswered," I meant her challenge still stands. You didn't meet her essential criteria.

That depends on what you think the essential criteria are.  If it's the disproportion between the attractiveness of the two leads, then there's quite a few films that fit.  If it's the economical/social disparity, there's fewer, but still plenty, of films.  If it's both including pregnancy and subsequent raising of the child, well, you got me. 

But I think that's being excessive.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 01:19:24 AM
tom cruise is a good actor.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: philip918 on April 06, 2008, 01:24:28 AM
Everything about Seth Rogan's character in Knocked Up is meant to portray a loser: his hair, his face, his weight, his clothes, his friends, his lack of ambition, his pot smoking, his apartment, all of it.  Everything about Katherine Hegel's character is meant to portray a winner: her hair, her face, her figure, her clothes, her family, her ambition, her success, her lifestyle, all of it.  Apatow's casting is no accident.

Clearly:  the loser (male) wins the winner (female).  Yes, this makes the film sexist.  I have other issues with Apatow's scripts also, but this portrait of the male/female relationship annoys me the most.

BTW, Elizabeth Bennett is not in the same English social class as Mr. Darcey, but she's not a loser.  She's brilliant, clever, and socially capable.  All that happens to figure largely into the entire point the novel is making.  If you think she's a loser who got the rich guy, you really need to re-read the novel or rethink your position.

Glad to get all this off my chest.  Carry on!

It's weird defending a movie I only moderately enjoyed, but I do like to argue.  So, I have to say, the premise of your argument is that "loser" guy gets "winner" girl and they live happily ever after.  I guess that's just not how I see it.  Ben gets his act together and is there for Alison when she needs someone, but I give them six months tops after credits roll.

I've read Pride and Prejudice twice and you're right, Elizabeth Bennet is not a "loser" (a term I think you'd be best leaving out of this argument entirely), but Darcy does give her a reality check about her family's desperate lack of propriety, her less than ideal marriageability and her extremely prejudicial nature.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 06, 2008, 01:48:55 AM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is the greatest film ever made.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 06, 2008, 08:14:14 AM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 sucks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on April 06, 2008, 10:00:07 AM
I agree with the rat
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 06, 2008, 11:21:41 AM
The Pink Panther sucks and isn't that funny. I laughed more during Psycho
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 11:26:07 AM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is a far superior film than Zodiac  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 06, 2008, 11:29:25 AM
 >:(
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 11:29:52 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 06, 2008, 12:23:22 PM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is a far superior film than Zodiac  ;)
YES!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 12:23:48 PM
it's true
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 06, 2008, 12:34:51 PM
The Pink Panther sucks and isn't that funny. I laughed more during Psycho

Your talking about the remakes, right? RIGHT?  >:(
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 06, 2008, 12:53:03 PM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is a far superior film than Zodiac  ;)
YES!

  Agreed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 06, 2008, 01:09:18 PM
The Pink Panther sucks and isn't that funny. I laughed more during Psycho

Your talking about the remakes, right? RIGHT?  >:(
No, the original.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JambaJ on April 06, 2008, 01:14:45 PM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is a far superior film than Zodiac  ;)
YES!

  Agreed.

Im with you guyus on this one too
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 02:01:54 PM
as should the world!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 06, 2008, 04:27:02 PM
All movies suck. Close the thread.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: andyg on April 06, 2008, 04:54:54 PM
The Pink Panther sucks and isn't that funny. I laughed more during Psycho

Your talking about the remakes, right? RIGHT?  >:(
No, the original.  :P

Oh man, I cant stand The Pink Panther. I have no idea how that film has survived the decades.
In fact all my unpopular opinions are about probably about comedies. I hardly like any of the famous ones.  Pink Panther, Animal House, Monty Python, anything with Mel Brooks... I could go on and on.

This is a great thread :)




Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 06, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
The Pink Panther sucks and isn't that funny. I laughed more during Psycho

Your talking about the remakes, right? RIGHT?  >:(
No, the original.  :P

Oh man, I cant stand The Pink Panther. I have no idea how that film has survived the decades.
In fact all my unpopular opinions are about probably about comedies. I hardly like any of the famous ones.  Pink Panther, Animal House, Monty Python, anything with Mel Brooks... I could go on and on.

Don't sweat it; having a sense of humor is overrated.

 :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: andyg on April 06, 2008, 05:22:46 PM
The Pink Panther sucks and isn't that funny. I laughed more during Psycho

Your talking about the remakes, right? RIGHT?  >:(
No, the original.  :P

Oh man, I cant stand The Pink Panther. I have no idea how that film has survived the decades.
In fact all my unpopular opinions are about probably about comedies. I hardly like any of the famous ones.  Pink Panther, Animal House, Monty Python, anything with Mel Brooks... I could go on and on.

Don't sweat it; having a sense of humor is overrated.

 :P

:)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on April 06, 2008, 05:25:01 PM
3:10 to Yuma was indeed terrible.
The Assassination of Jesse James stunk.
Oldboy was bad.
Brett Ratner isn't bad at what he does, he's decent.
Tarintino has made 1 truly good movie.

dude, you are killing me!

seriously...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 06, 2008, 05:36:19 PM
All movies suck. Close the thread.

I am now re-evaluating this world and my place in it.  Think I'll take up selling flowers by the expressway...

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 06, 2008, 09:17:14 PM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is a far superior film than Zodiac  ;)
YES!

  Agreed.

HELL YEAH!  Zodiac looks like Bratz next to Kill Bill.


Quentin Tarantino is the greatest America director in history.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 09:46:50 PM
Quentin Tarantino is the greatest America director in history.

 ???
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 06, 2008, 09:50:34 PM
Quentin Tarantino is the greatest America director in history.

Oh, I should so be off the hook for my Kubrick crack now!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 06, 2008, 09:51:47 PM
Quentin Tarantino is the greatest America director in history.

do you seriously believe that?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 06, 2008, 09:57:42 PM
Tarantino isn't even American. He was born in a grindhouse theater on Planet X.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 06, 2008, 10:19:33 PM
Kill Bill: Volume 1 is a far superior film than Zodiac  ;)
YES!

  Agreed.

HELL YEAH!  Zodiac looks like Bratz next to Kill Bill.


Quentin Tarantino is the greatest America director in history.

  Oh no...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 06, 2008, 10:29:59 PM
I love Bratz!

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on April 06, 2008, 10:36:45 PM
I love Bratz!

Cut it out.  >:(
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 07, 2008, 12:19:56 AM
No, I'm jk, I don't really think Tarantino is the greatest American director, nor do I think that Kill Bill: Vol 1 is the greatest film ever made.  :P 

But I really do agree that Zodiac is mediocre. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 20, 2008, 03:01:57 PM
The King of Comedy is Scorsese's best film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 20, 2008, 03:13:28 PM
At least you're not picking Cape Fear or, god forbid, Casino!

King of Comedy is a good film but I find it so uncomfortable to sit through that I can't really enjoy it that much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 20, 2008, 03:20:55 PM
Maybe I'm just a suckfor its cast, but my favorite Scorsese flim is actually The Departed. I'm not trying to knock on Goodfellas or Mean Streats or Taxi Driver, but I never tire of watching the Departed.

And by the way, Zodiac crushes Kill Bill Vol. 1. I do like the Kill Bill films, quite a bit actually, but I think Zodiac is workng on a completely different level. They'e hard to compare when you think of it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 20, 2008, 03:23:56 PM
And by the way, Zodiac crushes Kill Bill Vol. 1. I do like the Kill Bill films, quite a bit actually, but I think Zodiac is workng on a completely different level. They'e hard to compare when you think of it.

Totally dude! Kill Bill is like watching a little kid play with his toys for two hours; Zodiac is a deconstruction of the entire serial killer genre.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 20, 2008, 03:30:08 PM
And by the way, Zodiac crushes Kill Bill Vol. 1. I do like the Kill Bill films, quite a bit actually, but I think Zodiac is workng on a completely different level. They'e hard to compare when you think of it.

Totally dude! Kill Bill is like watching a little kid play with his toys for two hours; Zodiac is a deconstruction of the entire serial killer genre.

True enough, but it's a really wicked toy that doesn't seem to ever get boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 20, 2008, 03:31:10 PM
Well, I don't know about that, but there's no sense in arguing over the wickedness of said toy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 20, 2008, 03:35:22 PM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 20, 2008, 03:35:56 PM
Tarantino isn't even American. He was born in a grindhouse theater on Planet X.

I don't have any trouble imagining that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 20, 2008, 03:56:29 PM
He certainly doesn't look human.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 20, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
The King of Comedy is Scorsese's best film.

1. Mean Streets
2. Taxi Driver
3. The King of Comedy
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 20, 2008, 04:09:33 PM
Nice! Taxi Driver is my #2 as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 20, 2008, 04:14:40 PM
The King of Comedy is Scorsese's best film.

1. Mean Streets
2. Taxi Driver
3. The King of Comedy

Alternate ranking ;)

1. Goodfellas
2. Taxi Driver
3. Raging Bull
4. The Departed
5. Bringing Out The Dead
6. The Age of Innocence
7. Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
8. Mean Streets
9. The Aviator
10. The King of Comedy
11. The Last Waltz
12. Gangs of New York
13. Cape Fear
14. Casino

After Gangs, they stop being good. I haven't seen a lot of his more interesting films though such as After Hours, The Last Temptation of Christ, A Personal Journey, My Voyage to Italy, or No Direction Home. Regardless of what he's making, Scorsese's films are always worth watching :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 20, 2008, 04:16:43 PM
Last Temptation... is a rare film which affected me in a very spiritual way.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on April 20, 2008, 04:18:24 PM
After Gangs, they stop being good.

Yeah, I agree.

I haven't seen a lot of his more interesting films though such as After Hours, The Last Temptation of Christ, A Personal Journey, My Voyage to Italy, or No Direction Home.

Those are all good!

Raging Bull I need to rewatch, badly. Goodfellas, meh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 20, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
Yeah, I really need to get on that ASAP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 20, 2008, 05:34:01 PM
To keep this going, Blowup is a piece of crap.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 20, 2008, 05:37:16 PM
To keep this going, Blowup is a piece of crap.

you have never been so wrong.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 20, 2008, 05:43:56 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on April 20, 2008, 06:17:11 PM
After Hours is even worse than Cape Fear.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 20, 2008, 06:48:29 PM
After Hours is even worse than Cape Fear.

pixote

they are both awesome movies
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: enzobot24 on April 20, 2008, 07:11:58 PM
Goodfellas didn't impress me that much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 20, 2008, 08:53:40 PM
Streets of Fire is an awesome movie.  Diane Lane *Sigh*....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 20, 2008, 09:00:41 PM
Easy Rider is possibly the worst film ever made.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: cinechic on April 20, 2008, 09:20:35 PM
My dad thinks that Epic Movie is hilarious. He actually left Juno to go watch this instead.

I am ashamed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 20, 2008, 09:45:00 PM
My dad thinks that Epic Movie is hilarious. He actually left Juno to go watch this instead.

I am ashamed.
:O  Well my dad claims Hitman was great, so...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on April 20, 2008, 11:20:21 PM
My dad thinks that Epic Movie is hilarious. He actually left Juno to go watch this instead.

I am ashamed.
:O  Well my dad claims Hitman was great, so...

My dad thinks Air Bud is great and my mom thinks Because I Said So is amazing...

I look down on them...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: cinechic on April 20, 2008, 11:35:05 PM
My dad thinks that Epic Movie is hilarious. He actually left Juno to go watch this instead.

I am ashamed.
:O  Well my dad claims Hitman was great, so...

My dad thinks Air Bud is great and my mom thinks Because I Said So is amazing...

I look down on them...

I was watching Because I Said So with my roommate and I wanted to cry because of what happened to Diane Keaton. Horrible acting, then she stopped speaking altogether. In a way, it was merciful.

And I was surprised of my dad because he loved No Country, There Will Be Blood, and Once (of all things).

Okay, mine. Um....I've started and stopped L.A. Confidential. Twice.

I picked up The Squid and the Whale at Big Lots today and put it back down. It was $3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 20, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
My dad thinks Blade Runner and Gladiator are pieces of s*** (his words). Basically Ridley Scott is not a topic we got along on.

Unpopular movies? I didn't mind Sunshine, which must have lasted a grand total of about three weeks at the cinémas here in Montreal.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: worm@work on April 20, 2008, 11:51:04 PM

Unpopular movies? I didn't mind Sunshine, which must have lasted a grand total of about three weeks at the cinémas here in Montreal.



I hadn't realized it was an unpopular opinion. I didn't mind it at all actually.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 20, 2008, 11:52:06 PM
me either. i loved it!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 20, 2008, 11:53:14 PM
forgetting sarah marshall is not really funny
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 21, 2008, 12:06:08 AM

Unpopular movies? I didn't mind Sunshine, which must have lasted a grand total of about three weeks at the cinémas here in Montreal.



I hadn't realized it was an unpopular opinion. I didn't mind it at all actually.

Must be unpopular around here, cause harldy anyone I know has seen this film (grand total of one person).


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: winrit on April 21, 2008, 12:10:29 AM
I loved Sunshine!

I thought is was just me and Junior that loved it, so it is good to have a few others on board.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 21, 2008, 12:41:06 AM
I loved Sunshine!

I thought is was just me and Junior that loved it, so it is good to have a few others on board.
Hey, I think I was the first champion of it. I saw it in theaters in July and was shaking for the last 30 minutes followed by being scared of the piercing sunlight outside the theater as I walked down market. It really a film that many people will regret dismissing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: SloppyDog on April 21, 2008, 02:53:54 AM
I loved Sunshine!

I thought is was just me and Junior that loved it, so it is good to have a few others on board.

+1 - seen, bought, seen again, several times

Apart from the Event Horizon-esque ending, I adored it. Really impressed with the way they captured the magnetic attraction the sun has on the crewmembers. Kind of like picking a scab, with much more deadly consequences
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 21, 2008, 10:54:08 AM
I loved Sunshine!

I thought is was just me and Junior that loved it, so it is good to have a few others on board.

+1 - seen, bought, seen again, several times

Apart from the Event Horizon-esque ending, I adored it. Really impressed with the way they captured the magnetic attraction the sun has on the crewmembers. Kind of like picking a scab, with much more deadly consequences

That's a pretty clever way of seeing it. I tought the scale of the movie in terms of visuals was really massive, but character development made it feel quite intimate. The film played on that balance surprisingly well. Well done Mr. Boyle.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 21, 2008, 12:20:19 PM
I loved Sunshine!

Me, too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on April 21, 2008, 12:31:50 PM
sunshine was not good.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wilson on April 21, 2008, 12:36:25 PM
It was a nice Jason X remake.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 21, 2008, 01:09:11 PM
I was watching Because I Said So with my roommate and I wanted to cry because of what happened to Diane Keaton. Horrible acting, then she stopped speaking altogether. In a way, it was merciful.

And I was surprised of my dad because he loved No Country, There Will Be Blood, and Once (of all things).

Okay, mine. Um....I've started and stopped L.A. Confidential. Twice.

Yeah, I refuse to see Because I Said so... I choose to remember the Diane Keaton of the Godfather and Woody Allen films... for all practical purposes, she died after she made her last great film.

My dad also loved No Country, TWBB, and Once. I wasn't surprised, except for Once.  He usually hates movies with tons of music... he liked it so much he paid for my brother and I to see Glen and Marketa in concert! :) 

My brother insisted I watch LA Confedential with him one day, and I didn't hate it... it was fun, even though Guy Pierce... ugg!


and

Sunshine is even more mediocre than Zodiac. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 21, 2008, 03:38:20 PM
Of course Sunshine is awesome.

It's the best serious sci-fi movie...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 21, 2008, 05:01:13 PM
Of course Sunshine is awesome.

It's the best serious sci-fi movie...

...ever?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 21, 2008, 05:20:55 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 21, 2008, 06:30:26 PM
Of course Sunshine is awesome.

It's the best serious sci-fi movie...

...ever?

Well, so far.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 21, 2008, 06:36:29 PM
Controversial. However, this is the first space-set film I have seen at the cinema, and I like the way it gives you the impression you're on a spaceship :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on April 21, 2008, 08:30:35 PM
I have never laughed at a Wes Anderson movie
I can't sit through The Godfather (or Goodfellas)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 21, 2008, 08:32:16 PM
I have never laughed at a Wes Anderson movie

Me neither.  :-\
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on April 21, 2008, 08:35:01 PM
Also, I loved Transformers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on April 21, 2008, 08:45:58 PM
Of course Sunshine is awesome.

It's the best serious sci-fi movie...

and that's why i can never take you seriously again
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 21, 2008, 09:22:54 PM
Also, I loved Transformers.

Are you sure you want to use the word 'loved'? That would indeed be an impopular opinion. It looked kind of neat, but loved?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 21, 2008, 09:26:02 PM
Of course Sunshine is awesome.

It's the best serious sci-fi movie...

and that's why i can never take you seriously again

The problem is that you did in the first place.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 21, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
Also, I loved Transformers.

Are you sure you want to use the word 'loved'? That would indeed be an impopular opinion. It looked kind of neat, but loved?

  I loved it for what it was: the best popcorn movie/eye-candy of last summer. Great mindless entertainment.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 21, 2008, 09:30:53 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P

Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 21, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P

Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
My problem is simple. It's the same ole' self indulging vengeance movie that's been made for years. Seriously, if these films would quit being so childishly naive I might give them time of day.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 21, 2008, 09:59:36 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P

Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
My problem is simple. It's the same ole' self indulging vengeance movie that's been made for years. Seriously, if these films would quit being so childishly naive I might give them time of day.

That's okay. To each his own as they say. It's really the spectacle of it all and the performances that get me going when I watch that film. I just can't help it.

cheerio.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 21, 2008, 10:02:38 PM

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/chesterfilms1980/Oscar.jpg)

i think this is a very funny, and well made movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 21, 2008, 10:05:04 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P

Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
My problem is simple. It's the same ole' self indulging vengeance movie that's been made for years. Seriously, if these films would quit being so childishly naive I might give them time of day.

That's okay. To each his own as they say. It's really the spectacle of it all and the performances that get me going when I watch that film. I just can't help it.

cheerio.
I'm that way about most Sci-fi films. I think we're all that way in that there are certain films or kinds of films that we love despite ourselves. I really like Hellboy and think it's a good film even though at the slightest provocation I'd concede that it probably isn't as good as I think it is in my mind.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: indieabby88 on April 21, 2008, 10:08:17 PM

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/chesterfilms1980/Oscar.jpg)

i think this is a very funny, and well made movie.

Me too...Heh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ses on April 21, 2008, 10:08:28 PM

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/chesterfilms1980/Oscar.jpg)

i think this is a very funny, and well made movie.

Ok, but what are your thoughts on Stop, Or My Mom Will Shoot?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 21, 2008, 10:12:03 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P

Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
My problem is simple. It's the same ole' self indulging vengeance movie that's been made for years. Seriously, if these films would quit being so childishly naive I might give them time of day.



That's okay. To each his own as they say. It's really the spectacle of it all and the performances that get me going when I watch that film. I just can't help it.

cheerio.
I'm that way about most Sci-fi films. I think we're all that way in that there are certain films or kinds of films that we love despite ourselves. I really like Hellboy and think it's a good film even though at the slightest provocation I'd concede that it probably isn't as good as I think it is in my mind.

Ah, not so fast there. I think Hellboy has a lot going for it. Ron Pearlam as a snappy devil who wears the cross around his neck and fights evil? I can go with that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 21, 2008, 10:15:10 PM

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/chesterfilms1980/Oscar.jpg)

i think this is a very funny, and well made movie.

Me too...Heh.

third
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 21, 2008, 10:48:30 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P

Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
My problem is simple. It's the same ole' self indulging vengeance movie that's been made for years. Seriously, if these films would quit being so childishly naive I might give them time of day.



That's okay. To each his own as they say. It's really the spectacle of it all and the performances that get me going when I watch that film. I just can't help it.

cheerio.
I'm that way about most Sci-fi films. I think we're all that way in that there are certain films or kinds of films that we love despite ourselves. I really like Hellboy and think it's a good film even though at the slightest provocation I'd concede that it probably isn't as good as I think it is in my mind.

Ah, not so fast there. I think Hellboy has a lot going for it. Ron Pearlam as a snappy devil who wears the cross around his neck and fights evil? I can go with that.

Word. Hellboy is awesome.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 21, 2008, 10:53:46 PM
My dad thinks...Gladiator [is a] piece(s) of s*** (his words).
Cuz it is! :P
Man, don't get me started on Gladiator. I think I spent an afternoon defending that movie last weekend on the boards. I'm not going down that road again. I'm not budging on this one.  8)
My problem is simple. It's the same ole' self indulging vengeance movie that's been made for years. Seriously, if these films would quit being so childishly naive I might give them time of day.



That's okay. To each his own as they say. It's really the spectacle of it all and the performances that get me going when I watch that film. I just can't help it.

cheerio.
I'm that way about most Sci-fi films. I think we're all that way in that there are certain films or kinds of films that we love despite ourselves. I really like Hellboy and think it's a good film even though at the slightest provocation I'd concede that it probably isn't as good as I think it is in my mind.

Ah, not so fast there. I think Hellboy has a lot going for it. Ron Pearlam as a snappy devil who wears the cross around his neck and fights evil? I can go with that.

Word. Hellboy is awesome.
Hellboy was the height of mediocrity (chase the dog in a new location, yea!)... and its the best thing Guillermo del Toro has ever done.  I weep for The Hobbit.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on April 22, 2008, 10:31:00 AM
Also, I loved Transformers.

Are you sure you want to use the word 'loved'? That would indeed be an impopular opinion. It looked kind of neat, but loved?

  I loved it for what it was: the best popcorn movie/eye-candy of last summer. Great mindless entertainment.

Loved. Well...I really really loved how it looked, and I liked the rest of it very much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on April 22, 2008, 11:17:31 AM
Lars Trier is not so much a filmmaker as he is a post-modern media prankster/performance artist.

He has nothing to say except, "HAHA!! Tricked you into watching my film!"
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 22, 2008, 11:48:20 AM
Lars Trier is not so much a filmmaker as he is a post-modern media prankster/performance artist.

He has nothing to say except, "HAHA!! Tricked you into watching my film!"

he's certianly become more and more gimmicky but his earlier work (An Element of Crim, Zentropa/Europa, Breaking the Waves) is first class filmmaking.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on April 22, 2008, 11:53:02 AM
Lars Trier is not so much a filmmaker as he is a post-modern media prankster/performance artist.

He has nothing to say except, "HAHA!! Tricked you into watching my film!"

Correct!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: lise on April 22, 2008, 04:20:26 PM

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/chesterfilms1980/Oscar.jpg)

i think this is a very funny, and well made movie.

Me too...Heh.

third
forth... but it is hard to get people interested in watching a farce as a movie... 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 22, 2008, 04:52:55 PM
Lars Trier is not so much a filmmaker as he is a post-modern media prankster/performance artist.

He has nothing to say except, "HAHA!! Tricked you into watching my film!"

  Fool me once Dog Town

  Never again.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on April 22, 2008, 04:55:44 PM
Lars Trier is not so much a filmmaker as he is a post-modern media prankster/performance artist.

He has nothing to say except, "HAHA!! Tricked you into watching my film!"

Correct!

I guess my opinion is not as unpopular as I thought. Never mind.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: tsutter on April 22, 2008, 07:20:04 PM
I find David Lynch to be a pretentious, self-indulgent hack who doesn't even understand the motifs or "metaphors" behind his own movies.  I've seen nearly his entire catalog (sans shorts) and I still can't stand anything the man churns out.  :(

I think Russell Crowe is a fantastic actor.

I like a lot of really cheesy end-of-the-world flicks (Armageddon, Dante's Peak, etc.)  I even enjoyed The Day After Tomorrow and The Core to some extent, despite all their ludicrous scientific plot holes.  Damnable, I know.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on April 22, 2008, 09:43:22 PM

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f186/chesterfilms1980/Oscar.jpg)

i think this is a very funny, and well made movie.

Me too...Heh.

third
forth... but it is hard to get people interested in watching a farce as a movie... 

I enjoy it too... it's got hilarious moments...

"Call me Mr. Provolone...  Sure boss!  No, it's Mr. Provolone!  Sure boss!"

I think Sly was extremely underrated in that film.  "Sorry pop, I tried"
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on April 22, 2008, 09:48:57 PM
Fool me once Dog Town

  Never again.

Fool Me Twice Dogville
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 22, 2008, 09:59:30 PM
Fool me once Dog Town

  Never again.

Fool Me Twice Dogville

  Lol..that's how much I hated that film - I couldn't be bothered to remember the name...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 22, 2008, 10:50:24 PM

I like a lot of really cheesy end-of-the-world flicks (Armageddon, Dante's Peak, etc.)  I even enjoyed The Day After Tomorrow and The Core to some extent, despite all their ludicrous scientific plot holes.  Damnable, I know.

I accept Armageddon is a bad film.  But I can't help it.  I love it.....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 22, 2008, 11:34:34 PM

I like a lot of really cheesy end-of-the-world flicks (Armageddon, Dante's Peak, etc.)  I even enjoyed The Day After Tomorrow and The Core to some extent, despite all their ludicrous scientific plot holes.  Damnable, I know.

I accept Armageddon is a bad film.  But I can't help it.  I love it.....

  I get choked up every time that damn speech comes on and they show people from all over the world watching...I hate you Michael bay for making me fall for your obvious and cheesy manipulation...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 22, 2008, 11:42:17 PM
Fool me once Dog Town

  Never again.

Fool Me Twice Dogville

  Lol..that's how much I hated that film - I couldn't be bothered to remember the name...

I'll gladly be fooled by Lars any day of the week - but just once per film, I enjoy working for some of these viewing expriences. :-\
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 22, 2008, 11:49:25 PM
I really did not enjoy Dogville - I tried. Twice even.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 23, 2008, 12:16:18 AM
I find David Lynch to be a pretentious, self-indulgent hack who doesn't even understand the motifs or "metaphors" behind his own movies.  I've seen nearly his entire catalog (sans shorts) and I still can't stand anything the man churns out.  :(

I think Russell Crowe is a fantastic actor.

I like a lot of really cheesy end-of-the-world flicks (Armageddon, Dante's Peak, etc.)  I even enjoyed The Day After Tomorrow and The Core to some extent, despite all their ludicrous scientific plot holes.  Damnable, I know.


I could not agree more with your thoughts about David Lynch. I always had the feeling that he never wants to understand his films. He sole purpose is to tamper with our patience and waist our money. I want to apologize to Lynch fans. I don't mean to be so disrespectful, but that's what Lynch does for me.

Your comments about Armageddon and Day After Tomorrow though...no, those movies really do just stink. Sorry mate.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on April 23, 2008, 12:49:22 AM
I saw Vertigo in college and disliked it a lot. I feel like I owe it a revisit now that I've gotten some space in between now and the last time I saw it, just because of its reputation, but I just remember thinking the whole thing was ludicrous. So I want to revisit it and possibly rescue my opinion from consensus ridicule, but I had such a bad time I'm not sure if I want to risk it. That's probably my most inflammatory opinion that I can think of.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 23, 2008, 12:53:58 AM
Don't worry man, I think Psycho is overrated. I've always thought it was an effective thriller, but I don't get why so many people tend to drool over it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 23, 2008, 12:59:30 AM
Don't worry man, I think Psycho is overrated. I've always thought it was an effective thriller, but I don't get why so many people tend to drool over it.

survey says... yes!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on April 23, 2008, 01:11:07 AM
I find David Lynch to be a pretentious, self-indulgent hack who doesn't even understand the motifs or "metaphors" behind his own movies.  I've seen nearly his entire catalog (sans shorts) and I still can't stand anything the man churns out.  :(

I think Russell Crowe is a fantastic actor.

I like a lot of really cheesy end-of-the-world flicks (Armageddon, Dante's Peak, etc.)  I even enjoyed The Day After Tomorrow and The Core to some extent, despite all their ludicrous scientific plot holes.  Damnable, I know.


I could not agree more with your thoughts about David Lynch. I always had the feeling that he never wants to understand his films. He sole purpose is to tamper with our patience and waist our money. I want to apologize to Lynch fans. I don't mean to be so disrespectful, but that's what Lynch does for me.

Your comments about Armageddon and Day After Tomorrow though...no, those movies really do just stink. Sorry mate.
See, things were going swimmingly, and now I have to pay you a visit...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 23, 2008, 01:29:58 AM
Don't worry man, I think Psycho is overrated. I've always thought it was an effective thriller, but I don't get why so many people tend to drool over it.

survey says... yes!

I'm not familiar with that term but...okay!

Man, I just realized how poor my writing is at this late hour.. I'm signing out for the night. ' waist our money..'? What the heck am I  trying to write?!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 23, 2008, 10:35:27 AM
Don't worry man, I think Psycho is overrated. I've always thought it was an effective thriller, but I don't get why so many people tend to drool over it.

survey says... yes!

I'm not familiar with that term but...okay!

Man, I just realized how poor my writing is at this late hour.. I'm signing out for the night. ' waist our money..'? What the heck am I  trying to write?!

Paraphasing of an American gameshow called Family Feud.  Sorry, I reference things a lot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on April 23, 2008, 10:58:51 AM
Well, I *do* love Psycho. Except for the damn detective scene at the end, which nearly ruins it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 23, 2008, 12:14:39 PM
Jim Carrey IS NOT funny. He is creepy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on April 23, 2008, 12:21:32 PM
I disagree on the first one and agree on the second. Those aren't mutual exclusive, if you ask me and I think lots of times he's going for exactly that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 23, 2008, 12:33:37 PM
john wayne is an unwatchable caricature
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on April 23, 2008, 01:29:03 PM
Jim Carrey IS NOT funny.

I'd agree with that.  I wish he'd take more serious roles because I thought he was great in eternal sunshine...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 23, 2008, 01:54:24 PM
Jim Carrey IS NOT funny.

I'd agree with that.  I wish he'd take more serious roles because I thought he was great in eternal sunshine...

The was a deep sadness to his character in Ace Ventura 2: When Nature Calls - reminded me of Bergman at times.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on April 23, 2008, 01:59:26 PM
Jim Carrey IS NOT funny.

I'd agree with that.  I wish he'd take more serious roles because I thought he was great in eternal sunshine...

The was a deep sadness to his character in Ace Ventura 2: When Nature Calls - reminded me of Bergman at times.

I am glad someone FINALLY mentioned this.

Bergman practically invented talking butts. Give the man some props!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 23, 2008, 02:00:11 PM
They say that comedy comes from dark places - he obviously has a lot of demons/skeletons/whatever - he makes me uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 23, 2008, 05:40:30 PM
Jim Carrey IS NOT funny.

I'd agree with that.  I wish he'd take more serious roles because I thought he was great in eternal sunshine...

The was a deep sadness to his character in Ace Ventura 2: When Nature Calls - reminded me of Bergman at times.

I am glad someone FINALLY mentioned this.

Bergman practically invented talking butts. Give the man some props!

I heard Bergman wanted to wanted to do a "man coming out of a Rhino's butt" scene but the studios wouldn't go for it.  Max Von Sydow was relieved to hear it....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 24, 2008, 12:52:49 AM
Bergman isn't one of the all time greats for nothing you know. Those butt jokes had to come from someone after all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 24, 2008, 07:38:40 AM
It's a very Swedish thing; that's why some people can find him obuse: butt jokes just don't cross cultural boundaries, and are widely misunderstood outside of Scandanavia, where they date back to the 4th century.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on April 24, 2008, 07:41:41 AM
I had no idea. I must consult a Swedish friend of mine about that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 24, 2008, 08:50:21 AM
It's a very Swedish thing; that's why some people can find him obuse: butt jokes just don't cross cultural boundaries, and are widely misunderstood outside of Scandanavia, where they date back to the 4th century.

  I thought butt jokes were universal actually...along with poop and our genitals...anything above the knees and below the waist.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 24, 2008, 08:58:25 AM
But arse jokes underpinned by a 'deep sadness' is very Scandanavian.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on April 24, 2008, 09:06:17 AM
Come on, be precise now. Is it Swedish or Scandinavian in general?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 24, 2008, 09:20:06 AM
Specifically, North Swedish.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 24, 2008, 10:04:32 AM
But arse jokes underpinned by a 'deep sadness' is very Scandanavian.

  That line is pure gold...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 24, 2008, 10:07:33 AM
Actually, I have just realised: there is a very real arse joke in Fanny and Alexander!

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 24, 2008, 10:33:39 AM
But arse jokes underpinned by a 'deep sadness' is very Scandanavian.

interesting...arse jokes with 'deep sadness'.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 24, 2008, 10:38:03 AM
There is also a Reeves and Mortimer spoof of French cinema, with two men farting before the end: 'FIN'. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_AnfHeBXM4
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 24, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
This is quite an educational experience  :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on April 25, 2008, 03:15:37 AM
We've been over this in the poll.. but...

Michael Moore > Errol Morris

Seeing Roger and Me enforced this for me... I've seen all his major films now, and he is one of my favorite filmmakers living today... I haven't seen enough Scorsese films to say, "Michael Moore > Scorsese" yet though. :P 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 25, 2008, 03:49:07 AM
Moore has made one great film, Michael and Me. Not seen any Morris, but... I think I'll prefer him  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on April 25, 2008, 02:20:13 PM
Unpopular movie opinion? Oh boy do I have some.

Brett Ratner is NOT a hack!
---Sub-Opinon: I enjoy X3 and think it does some things better then X1 and 2

Woody Allen has not been funny since I have been alive

Scarlett Johanson looks kinda like ET (if ET had a hot body)

Dax Sheppard is interesting to watch

I am sure I have more but thats a good start.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 25, 2008, 04:10:54 PM
Unpopular movie opinion? Oh boy do I have some.

Brett Ratner is NOT a hack!
---Sub-Opinon: I enjoy X3 and think it does some things better then X1 and 2

Woody Allen has not been funny since I have been alive

Scarlett Johanson looks kinda like ET (if ET had a hot body)

Dax Sheppard is interesting to watch


I am sure I have more but thats a good start.

Does her chest light up?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on April 25, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
only when her orbs are stimulated
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on April 25, 2008, 05:38:20 PM
Moore has made one great film, Michael and Me. Not seen any Morris, but... I think I'll prefer him  ;)

You will.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 25, 2008, 05:43:55 PM
Brett Ratner is NOT a hack!
---Sub-Opinon: I enjoy X3 and think it does some things better then X1 and 2

Kudos to you sir.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: alexarch on April 25, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Quote
Brett Ratner is NOT a hack!
---Sub-Opinon: I enjoy X3 and think it does some things better then X1 and 2
This comment has caused me to spend the last two hours looking for a tabloid story in which Paris Hilton defends Brett Ratner.  It makes me very angry that I can't find that damn story.

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Scarlett Johanson looks kinda like ET (if ET had a hot body)
I think she looks more like The Incredible Mr. Limpet.  Not Don Knotts.  Mr. Limpet.

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Dax Sheppard is interesting to watch.
I agree.  I have a thing for him and Will Arnett.  In my fantasies, I see them together.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 25, 2008, 05:54:56 PM
Nobody mess with Arnett! Just check out Arrested Development!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: alexarch on April 25, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
Nobody mess with Arnett! Just check out Arrested Development!
I'm not.  That comment was sincere.  I heart Will Arnett.  If he were to turn gay and ask me to be his lover, I would happily dump Jerry in favor of him.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on April 25, 2008, 06:50:00 PM
You could ride around together on Segways.
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Post by: edgar00 on April 25, 2008, 06:56:51 PM
Nobody mess with Arnett! Just check out Arrested Development!
I'm not.  That comment was sincere.  I heart Will Arnett.  If he were to turn gay and ask me to be his lover, I would happily dump Jerry in favor of him.

 I was making sure no one started hating on him. This is the 'unpopular movie opinion' message board after all. I don't know what the odds are of him turning gay are and asking you to be his lover are, but I'm glad to know he's got some fans.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on April 27, 2008, 04:49:56 PM
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I don't care what you say; Owen Wilson is perfectly cast, and this is a masterpiece!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on April 27, 2008, 09:15:35 PM
and this is a masterpiece!

what is it?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 27, 2008, 09:16:17 PM
I'm thinking Behind Enemy Lines.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Lynch on April 27, 2008, 10:06:53 PM

Brett Ratner is NOT a hack!
---Sub-Opinon: I enjoy X3 and think it does some things better then X1 and 2


I know this is the Unpopular Opinions thread but did someone just make it the 'Totally Crazy Ubelievable Statements Thread' as well?!

There is unpopular and then there is just plain wrong.  X3 sucked all the life out of the series and left it a rotting shell.

If BrettRatnerisahack.com was not already taken I would have bought it.

(I do respect your right to an opinion though  ;) :))
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 28, 2008, 09:32:05 AM
X-Men 3 wasn't that bad. Sure, it too a few cooky twists and turns, but overall it ws a satisfactory ending to that series.

Although now I hear their making a Wolverine film... He was my favorite X-Man as a kid, but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Is that an unpopular opinion around these parts or are you guys seriously pumped up for a Wolverine flick?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on April 28, 2008, 09:40:04 AM
X3 wasn't horrible, but it wasn't on the same level as X2. But I think Singer's work on that franchise is slightly overrated anyway.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 28, 2008, 12:19:01 PM
The most disappointing thing about the Xmen series in my mind was the lack of certain characters. Most notably, Gambit. Everyone I talk to about the series always brings up Gambit at some point. I wonder who would've been cast to play him, or rather who should've been cast.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 28, 2008, 12:20:19 PM
The most disappointing thing about the Xmen series in my mind was the lack of certain characters. Most notably, Gambit. Everyone I talk to about the series always brings up Gambit at some point. I wonder who would've been cast to play him, or rather who should've been cast.

Harry Connick Jr.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on April 28, 2008, 12:20:41 PM
Sawyer from Lost should have been Gambit.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: JAGII on April 28, 2008, 02:16:02 PM
The most disappointing thing about the Xmen series in my mind was the lack of certain characters. Most notably, Gambit. Everyone I talk to about the series always brings up Gambit at some point. I wonder who would've been cast to play him, or rather who should've been cast.

I was disappointed in the exact opposite way.  It seemed that Ratner covered a lack of story or character development by smothering the screen with fan favorite characters and moments.  Every time a nagging omission or plot hole would come up, Jamie Madrox would show up to crack a joke, or Wolvie and Colossus would do the fastball special, or Beast would say "Oh my stars and garters!" 

It was less a story and more a bunch of Claremont issues of the comic thrown in a blender.

Sawyer from Lost should have been Gambit.

I'd thought he was supposed to be Gambit, but couldn't due to a conflict with the show.  That was the rumor going around for a while.  I always thought Abrams modeled Sawyer on Gambit, as he is a comic fan.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on April 28, 2008, 06:54:59 PM
I liked X-3 for bringing a bunch of new characters in, but my biggest beef with that film, and the entire series, is Cyclops.  He was always my favorite X-man in the comics but the movies totally wasted him.  I know Wolverine is the popular character and had to be featured, but Cyke was always the leader, and Jean's main man.  I dunno, I felt they wasted him....

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 28, 2008, 07:10:24 PM
I liked X-3 for bringing a bunch of new characters in, but my biggest beef with that film, and the entire series, is Cyclops.  He was always my favorite X-man in the comics but the movies totally wasted him.  I know Wolverine is the popular character and had to be featured, but Cyke was always the leader, and Jean's main man.  I dunno, I felt they wasted him....

Yeah, I hear ya. I never much liked worlverine because he was so popular. Cyclops  was cool though, and not a prick in the comics. In the movies they turned it into some sort of Betty & Veronica type thing. Silly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 28, 2008, 09:04:03 PM
I liked X-3 for bringing a bunch of new characters in, but my biggest beef with that film, and the entire series, is Cyclops.  He was always my favorite X-man in the comics but the movies totally wasted him.  I know Wolverine is the popular character and had to be featured, but Cyke was always the leader, and Jean's main man.  I dunno, I felt they wasted him....

Yeah, I hear ya. I never much liked worlverine because he was so popular. Cyclops  was cool though, and not a prick in the comics. In the movies they turned it into some sort of Betty & Veronica type thing. Silly.


Really? Wolverine's popularity didn't hinder my interest in the character. He's what the X-Men need when it's time to get down and dirty. A savage beast, but who fights the good fight.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 28, 2008, 10:18:28 PM
When I was young I always justified my dislike for wolverine by figuring that cyclops would kick wolverines butt in a fight. I mean he shoots laser beams out his eyes...  Conceivably if he looks at you, you're dead. The thing that never made sense was cyclops would miss... his lasers defied physics and didn't travel at light speed. Like try and imagine someone trying to dodge the light from a flashlight. Pretty stupid. They should've catagorized his power as: Shoots pink unlaser-like blobs out his eyes, but don't worry you can duck 'em.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 29, 2008, 12:17:08 AM
I guess I see your point. Well, the fact of the matter is mutants can duck those lasers, so Wolverine gets to kick Cyclop's a**.

I'm just fooling. I honestly don't care about who would win that fight. But X-Men 3 was a respectable entry in that franchise!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 29, 2008, 06:53:25 AM
Hear hear.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on April 29, 2008, 10:34:16 AM
I agree with JAGII, the X-Men movies were never that great. The first and second were decent, but I don't get the massive love they get from so many people. I haven't bothered with the third. I figure if the people who like the first two so much more than me say it was a step down I'll probably hate it.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on April 29, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
I never even bothered with the 2nd one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on April 29, 2008, 12:31:49 PM
I loved all three X-Movies for many different reasons.

I don't think Bryan Singer is a very good action director though, what made his X-Films enjoyable were the subtext and drama he inserted. X-Men 3 delivered on some of the best mutant action ever to be put on screen. Some of it was pure balls, but at least Ratner was swinging for the fences with his set peices.

Notable awesome moments:

Magneto's destruction of the prison convoy
Jean's House fight (in the discussion for greatest comic film fight scenes IMO)
Golden Gate Bridge sequence
The final Phoenix moments on Alcatraz

All of these moments FAR outweigh any action Singer has ever done, and I am including the snore-fest Super Man Returns in which a very gay looking Super Man gets winded while throwing a big rock and takes a Super Nap!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on April 30, 2008, 10:54:51 AM
Although now I hear their making a Wolverine film... He was my favorite X-Man as a kid, but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Is that an unpopular opinion around these parts or are you guys seriously pumped up for a Wolverine flick?
Says Huge Jackman:
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"We are dealing with a character who is probably one of the darker comic book characters ever created," Jackman said. "The movie has a lot of fun elements, but there are layers of pain and darkness to this character."
"Tonally, I would put it more in the 'Batman Begins' sort of realm," he added. "That's sort of where we're headed."

I'm still don't care and it bugs me that Brian Cox won't be in it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 30, 2008, 01:25:48 PM
It is possible to have too much of a good thing, and I'm afraid we may heading down that kind of road with the Wolverine movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on April 30, 2008, 01:46:40 PM
To much of a good thing? That umpossible!

Actually the new Wolverine movie will be good for one reason and one reason only... GAMBIT!!!!

Thats right, Gambit bitches.

This is the one thing that will get my geekboy boner so hard that the movie could be the worst since Gigli and I will still enjoy the piss out of it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 30, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
It all depends on who plays Gambit. It they get some pouty-faced male model who think he's got charisma (but of course, can't act his way out of a paper bag), it'll put even George Clooney's Batman to shame. And I'm 90% sure that's what they'll end up doing too.

The casting priorities should go something like; Good actor first, then fairly unknown, fits the mental image of Gambit. Not the other way around.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on April 30, 2008, 02:21:59 PM
It all depends on who plays Gambit. It they get some pouty-faced male model who think he's got charisma (but of course, can't act his way out of a paper bag), it'll put even George Clooney's Batman to shame. And I'm 90% sure that's what they'll end up doing too.

don't they already have who's gonna play him?  that dude from the friday night lights tv show?  right?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 30, 2008, 02:23:49 PM
It all depends on who plays Gambit. It they get some pouty-faced male model who think he's got charisma (but of course, can't act his way out of a paper bag), it'll put even George Clooney's Batman to shame. And I'm 90% sure that's what they'll end up doing too.

don't they already have who's gonna play him?  that dude from the friday night lights tv show?  right?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2018237/)

Sucks. Okay, I'm basically boycotting this movie now. What a joke.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on April 30, 2008, 03:53:09 PM
Boycotting the movie? C'mon thats just silly.

I have faith in this kid, I have seen a few episodes of FNL and he is a fine actor.

He is a better choice then Sawyer from lost thats for sure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on April 30, 2008, 08:11:35 PM
I might've overreacted  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on April 30, 2008, 08:16:17 PM
I might've overreacted  ;)

Yeah well Gambit is my favorite character in my favorite fictional universe so forgive the definsive posturing.

So long as he throws cards and good willing has black and red eyes... ill praise its awesomeness ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on April 30, 2008, 09:11:01 PM
Is Gambit guy always dressed in a raincoat? He's was okay.

I don't know. Maybe the trailers will get me into this project, but as it stands, I'm not anticipating this thing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: PeaceLily on May 03, 2008, 04:27:53 PM
Pirates Of The Caribbean 2 was a perfectly fine and often very entertaining piece of fluffy popcorn cinema. It lacked the heart of the original, but for my money there was still plenty to enjoy if all you were looking for was brainless fun.  Pirates 3, on the other hand, was about as much fun as watching paint dry while having your teeth pulled very, very slowly.

I don't think it's unrealistic at all that Katherine Heigl might go for Seth Rogen in Knocked Up.  There seems to be a general opinion (not necessarily on these boards but certainly IMDB, etc) of "Oh, she's way too hot for him", but I know a LOT of gorgeous women in relationships with considerably less attractive guys, and vice versa.  Didn't strike me as that odd.

Fight Club is good but incredibly overrated; Se7en is Fincher's best by a long way.

The Departed was only okay.

In Bruges may be the best film of the year so far.  That probably doesn't sound all that unpopular until I qualify it with the fact that I'm in the UK, so given our release dates that's including No Country, There Will Be Blood, Juno and Diving Bell.  All of which I loved.  Granted, I did just see it last night, so it's possible I'm still on a high and not quite being objective, but DAMN. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 04, 2008, 06:59:09 PM
Iron Man gets pretty boring after the first act, and the end features a final confrontation almost as laughably bad as The Hulk's.  (Downey Jr. is good, but that's a point for another thread.)  Grade: C+

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 04, 2008, 07:14:25 PM
I find Tron really silly and boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 04, 2008, 07:17:47 PM
I find Tron really silly and boring.
I fell asleep in the middle of it at 11 am.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 04, 2008, 07:19:20 PM
I find Tron really silly and boring.
I fell asleep in the middle of it at 11 am.

That's funny as hell! I swear man, I broke out when I read that!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on May 04, 2008, 07:20:23 PM
Iron Man gets pretty boring after the first act, and the end features a final confrontation almost as laughably bad as The Hulk's.  (Downey Jr. is good, but that's a point for another thread.)  Grade: C+

pixote

I sorta agree except that everything Downey Jr. does is so entertaining for me that it's pretty hard to not get swept up with the film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 05, 2008, 07:47:54 PM
I can't stand Harry Potter. Even if that four eyed little wreck put me under a spell to watch them all back to back I'd still probably find grass more entertaining.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 05, 2008, 07:55:05 PM
I can't stand Harry Potter. Even if that four eyed little wreck put me under a spell to watch them all back to back I'd still probably find grass more entertaining.
*Insert recycled acerbic joke here*
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 05, 2008, 08:00:15 PM
I can't stand Harry Potter. Even if that four eyed little wreck put me under a spell to watch them all back to back I'd still probably find grass more entertaining.
*Insert recycled acerbic joke here*

Recycling is good for the environment. Good show! Cheerio!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 05, 2008, 11:47:14 PM
I can't stand Harry Potter. Even if that four eyed little wreck put me under a spell to watch them all back to back I'd still probably find grass more entertaining.
*Insert recycled acerbic joke here*

Recycling is good for the environment. Good show! Cheerio!

Also acerbic joks are much more PC than arabic jokes. Tollerant and environmentally conscious... way to be.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 05, 2008, 11:58:55 PM
oh... and The Love Guru looks flippin funny and the new trailer has me in stitches :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 06, 2008, 12:03:07 AM
oh... and The Love Guru looks flippin funny and the new trailer has me in stitches :P

Wow. I'm honestly not sure how to react to that.

Oh, wait, I have to run to the bathroom to vomit...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 06, 2008, 12:09:19 AM
Mike Meyer's is comedy gold - at least when he's not animated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 06, 2008, 12:14:30 AM
I can't agree with that at all. Comedy is a funny thing (intentional). What makes one person laugh makes another person cringe. I personally think Seth Rogen would crush Mike Meyers, but a lot of people would call me crazy for that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 06, 2008, 12:59:25 AM
I'm late 80's/early 90's SNL devotee and Meyers was one of the best of that bunch.  His Inside the Actor's Studio session was great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on May 06, 2008, 08:13:31 AM
I can't agree with that at all. Comedy is a funny thing (intentional). What makes one person laugh makes another person cringe. I personally think Seth Rogen would crush Mike Meyers, but a lot of people would call me crazy for that.

  Crazy - Rogen is nowhere near Meyers' league. He couldn't even hold Meyers' comedy jock.

I'm late 80's/early 90's SNL devotee and Meyers was one of the best of that bunch.  His Inside the Actor's Studio session was great.

  Agreed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on May 06, 2008, 10:21:30 AM
I can't agree with that at all. Comedy is a funny thing (intentional). What makes one person laugh makes another person cringe. I personally think Seth Rogen would crush Mike Meyers, but a lot of people would call me crazy for that.


I find that very sane. Although I enjoy Meyers in some contexts, I would much rather see Pineapple Express than The Love Guru.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 06, 2008, 11:21:16 AM
I'm late 80's/early 90's SNL devotee and Meyers was one of the best of that bunch.  His Inside the Actor's Studio session was great.

I would love to see that Inside the Actor's Studio session! I've heard other interviews with Meyers, and he really is so funny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 06, 2008, 11:31:21 AM
Say what you will filmspotters, I just believe that Mr. Myers has lost the magic touch. He used to be funny, yes, but that talent seems to have left him the second he signed on to those Shrek films.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 06, 2008, 11:48:56 AM
I agree that Shrek is a terrible franchise and for the most part devoid of laughs for me and Cat in the Hat was an abomination but when he creates his own characters i laugh... and we haven't a new one in 6 years!  Personally I'm eagerly awaiting Love Guru for this reason.

The episode might be available on iTunes, not sure though.  Can't find a youtube vid though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on May 06, 2008, 12:08:05 PM
Didn't he plan on making a movie about a German talkshow host? I think that idead goes back to his days at SNL..
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 06, 2008, 01:55:31 PM
haha yeah, dieter.  thankfully that was shelved.  good character for a skit but like most SNL films I'm not sure it could sustain a feature.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: WallE on May 06, 2008, 01:56:55 PM
Im just glad they stopped making SNL character movies, they are so rarely good.

Waynes World and The Ladies Man being notable exceptions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 06, 2008, 09:24:26 PM
I never saw Ladies Man. I always wondered if it was really worth it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on May 06, 2008, 09:53:23 PM
I never saw Ladies Man. I always wondered if it was really worth it.

noooooo!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on May 06, 2008, 10:14:43 PM
I never saw Ladies Man. I always wondered if it was really worth it.

noooooo!

I laughed at Ladies Man, but its not like Wayne's World funny or anything
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 06, 2008, 10:18:28 PM
What chester said.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 07, 2008, 12:10:01 AM
Stay away from Ladies Man: check!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on May 07, 2008, 05:34:43 AM
Blues Brothers is pretty cool though. Roxbury was not. What else is there, based on SNL skits?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: SloppyDog on May 07, 2008, 08:26:23 AM
Coneheads? [shiver]
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on May 07, 2008, 08:36:41 AM
it's pat
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on May 07, 2008, 08:47:43 AM
Ok, according to Wikipedia, the only two missing are 1999's Superstar from Stuart Saves his Family from 1995.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 07, 2008, 09:44:26 AM
Isn't Will Ferell making sketch based comedies these says anyways? That's the impression I get from watching his movies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 07, 2008, 12:09:13 PM
also Mike Judge's initial "Office Space" cartoon appeared on SNL while he was a writter there.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on May 07, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
SNL sketches get tired after the first minute, so naturally they are unsuited to being stretched for 90 minutes.

British TV comedy never translates well to the big screen, either, with the exception of Monty Python's first two movies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on May 20, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
The Wizard of Oz is mostly bad.

Thanks, pixote!

It feels weird to capitalize that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 20, 2008, 06:47:24 PM
The Wizard of Oz is mostly bad.

Thanks, Pixote!

Pow! Right in the kisser!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 20, 2008, 09:07:21 PM
It feels weird to capitalize that.

Thanks for the edit.  The capitalized version of me freaks me out.

Incidentally, Dances With Wolves is a better film than The Searchers.  And Speed is a better film than Taxi Driver.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on May 20, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
It feels weird to capitalize that.

Thanks for the edit.  The capitalized version of me freaks me out.

Incidentally, Dances With Wolves is a better film than The Searchers.  And Speed is a better film than Taxi Driver.

pixote

I don't remember DWW so I really can't comment either way, but the Searchers is definitely a snooze.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on May 20, 2008, 11:00:45 PM
so wrong
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 21, 2008, 12:07:31 AM
  And Speed is a better film than Taxi Driver for fans of films with larger sized automobiles

pixote

yep, that works.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 21, 2008, 12:09:09 AM
You people worry me sometimes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 21, 2008, 12:09:45 AM
It's possible that I stopped taking Advil a little prematurely.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on May 21, 2008, 11:40:53 AM
Since I'm new here, I'd like to get a couple of these off my chest in the interest of full disclosure.


- From the few films of his that I've seen, I think John Ford is overrated.  And from the many films of his that I've seen, I think Robert Altman is overrated.  In both cases, I think their great gift to cinema was having served as an inspiration to a great many directors that have made better films than theirs.

- AI: Artificial Intelligence is in my top 50 favorite films of the 2000s and is possibly my favorite Spielberg film since Last Crusade.

- Pootie Tang is legitimately brilliant.

- Firefly/Serenity is really just a watered-down mash-up of every sci-fi movie you've ever seen and so cannot be seriously considered to be one of the best sci-fi films ever.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: karlwinslow on May 21, 2008, 12:20:51 PM
you're going to make some enemies with some of those...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on May 21, 2008, 12:51:34 PM
Pootie Tang is brilliant...nice call...too bad you're mistaken about Serenity... :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on May 21, 2008, 01:09:05 PM
you're going to make some enemies with some of those...

Won't be the first time.  I like to make a big entrance.   ;D

Pootie Tang is brilliant...nice call...too bad you're mistaken about Serenity... :P

In all fairness to Joss Whedon, he's just never been my brand of geek.  I don't hate him but I'm more of a JJ Abrams guy.  I tried with Firefly and Serenity, I really did, but it never clicked with me.  I think it's because it's Star Wars remade in Star Trek's image, which kind of doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on May 21, 2008, 01:25:14 PM
I see your point there - if I am not mistaken, he took westerns and put them in space - Star Wars had a lot of those elements as well.

While I do like Firefly/Serenity - for me his real genius was in BTVS and Angel...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 22, 2008, 12:24:57 AM
Since I'm new here, I'd like to get a couple of these off my chest in the interest of full disclosure.


- From the few films of his that I've seen, I think John Ford is overrated.  And from the many films of his that I've seen, I think Robert Altman is overrated.  In both cases, I think their great gift to cinema was having served as an inspiration to a great many directors that have made better films than theirs.

- AI: Artificial Intelligence is in my top 50 favorite films of the 2000s and is possibly my favorite Spielberg film since Last Crusade.

- Pootie Tang is legitimately brilliant.

- Firefly/Serenity is really just a watered-down mash-up of every sci-fi movie you've ever seen and so cannot be seriously considered to be one of the best sci-fi films ever.

Wow. A.I. as one of your top 50 best since 2000 and the best Spielberg film since The Last Crusade? Those are two rather bold statements there. Although I think Spielberg started with a strong idea, the final product felt rather watered down for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on May 22, 2008, 01:22:19 AM
Since I'm new here, I'd like to get a couple of these off my chest in the interest of full disclosure.


- From the few films of his that I've seen, I think John Ford is overrated.

see more. he is one of the greatest american directors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on May 22, 2008, 05:34:04 AM


Wow. A.I. as one of your top 50 best since 2000 and the best Spielberg film since The Last Crusade? Those are two rather bold statements there.

I would agree with the first statement, but love Jurassic Park too much to agree with the second.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on May 22, 2008, 05:35:14 AM
Shane is not one of the great westerns.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 22, 2008, 08:53:22 AM
Shane is not one of the great westerns.

Thank you. No really, thank you. The movie buffs at my work look at me crooked when I say that. Now I know that damn movie hasn't hipnotized eveyerone into thinking it's great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on May 22, 2008, 08:55:49 AM
Since I'm new here, I'd like to get a couple of these off my chest in the interest of full disclosure.


- From the few films of his that I've seen, I think John Ford is overrated.

see more. he is one of the greatest american directors.

I'll take any recommendations as I do feel a sense of shame about this.  I've only seen Stagecoach, The Searchers, and Liberty Valance and none of them clicked for me.  I'm more of a revisionist western fan than a classic western fan and I would have liked Liberty Valance if not for the spoilerful description on netflix that gives away the entire ending.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on May 22, 2008, 11:20:11 AM
Shane is not one of the great westerns.

Thank you. No really, thank you. The movie buffs at my work look at me crooked when I say that. Now I know that damn movie hasn't hipnotized eveyerone into thinking it's great.


Your welcome. It's a good movie, but like I say, Shane would only ever be a hero in my eyes if he shot at the kid and scared him off for the duration of the film, then I might be able to cope with it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on May 22, 2008, 11:25:42 AM
Oh man. You guys just brought back from the dead the memory of that kid from Shane. Most annoying child's voice in the history of movies? We just may have a winner.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 22, 2008, 11:30:00 AM
Oh man. You guys just brought back from the dead the memory of that kid from Shane. Most annoying child's voice in the history of movies? We just may have a winner.

I love these message boards even more every time someone posts comments like that. Darn that annoying kid.

-kid: Shane! Shane! I love you Shane!

-Shane: Shut up kid...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on May 22, 2008, 11:44:07 AM
-kid: Shane! Shane! I love you Shane!

Shane - slumps over in saddle as loses will to live
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 22, 2008, 12:21:19 PM
Since I'm new here, I'd like to get a couple of these off my chest in the interest of full disclosure.


- From the few films of his that I've seen, I think John Ford is overrated.

see more. he is one of the greatest american directors.

I'll take any recommendations as I do feel a sense of shame about this.  I've only seen Stagecoach, The Searchers, and Liberty Valance and none of them clicked for me.  I'm more of a revisionist western fan than a classic western fan and I would have liked Liberty Valance if not for the spoilerful description on netflix that gives away the entire ending.
Young Mr. Lincoln, try that. Or maybe The Informer.

Also, never read Netflix blurbs. They love giving away at least half the film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on May 24, 2008, 09:25:46 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 24, 2008, 11:03:17 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O

Is that considered to be an unpopular opinion? I thought most people didn't like Temple of Doom. Personally I do, but most don't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on May 25, 2008, 12:25:50 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O

Amen!  I like Temple of Doom but, it is the weak sister of the franchise.  I took a huge beating from my friends after the Crystal Skull midnight movie the other night over this...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on May 25, 2008, 12:27:06 AM
This started in another thread but I have to say it.  Harold and Maude is soooooo overrated.  Sorry, I saw it once and just didn't get it. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on May 25, 2008, 02:33:50 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O

Is that considered to be an unpopular opinion? I thought most people didn't like Temple of Doom. Personally I do, but most don't.

I didn't realize... I thought Crystal Skull wasn't generally loved, and Temple of Doom was considered a "classic."  I don't really enjoy Temple of Doom at all, and when I rewatch them, I'm so skipping that one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on May 25, 2008, 05:39:00 AM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O
Nonsense.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 25, 2008, 04:20:51 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O
Nonsense.

As a big fan of Temple of Doom, and now that I've finally seen Crystal Skull, I think they're pretty much at the same level. The only one film of the four I have trouble with is Last Crusade actually.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 25, 2008, 04:42:16 PM
I think this one will spark controversy.

Fanny and Alexander is a horrible film. :o
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 25, 2008, 04:46:09 PM
Fanny and Alexander is a horrible film. :o

Which version have you seen?

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on May 25, 2008, 05:43:30 PM
I think this one will spark controversy.

Fanny and Alexander is a horrible film. :o

Them, fightin' words!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 25, 2008, 07:19:46 PM
Fanny and Alexander is a horrible film. :o

Which version have you seen?

pixote
Theatrical
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on May 25, 2008, 08:05:36 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O
Nonsense.

As a big fan of Temple of Doom, and now that I've finally seen Crystal Skull, I think they're pretty much at the same level. The only one film of the four I have trouble with is Last Crusade actually.

Last Crusade is possibly the best of the series! 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on May 25, 2008, 08:21:19 PM
Last Crusade is possibly the best of the series! 
Nah, Raiders is better. Crusade's the only one where I like the ending though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 25, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is an all around better film than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. :O
Nonsense.

As a big fan of Temple of Doom, and now that I've finally seen Crystal Skull, I think they're pretty much at the same level. The only one film of the four I have trouble with is Last Crusade actually.

Last Crusade is possibly the best of the series! 


Now that's an unpopular opinion!

Looking back at the Last Crusade, I remember not liking its goofiness. However, I came back today from watching Crystal Skull, which goes completely bonkers near the end, and liking it. I may have to watch Last Crusade again.
Time to dust off that Indy trilogy box set and dig in again!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on May 26, 2008, 05:39:25 AM
Fanny and Alexander is a horrible film. :o

Which version have you seen?

pixote
Theatrical

What nonsense. Is that a genuine opinion or are you just trying to stir up religious hatred?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 26, 2008, 08:24:15 AM
Fanny and Alexander is a horrible film. :o

Which version have you seen?

pixote
Theatrical
I'm being dead serious. I'm not even sure how I got through this film as I was so bored with it.

What nonsense. Is that a genuine opinion or are you just trying to stir up religious hatred?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on May 26, 2008, 12:36:49 PM
I had a very similar reaction to Fellowship of the Ring
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 26, 2008, 12:40:43 PM
I had a very similar reaction to Fellowship of the Ring

You didn't like it?

I agree that the series got better as it went along, but I was very satisfied with that FOTR experience at the cinema. I wasn't quite sure what to expect, and although not everything played out like I had imagined when I read the books, it was more than fulfilling.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 26, 2008, 12:44:44 PM
I hated the Fellowship, didn't watch Two Towers, and watched an hour of King before getting massively bored and leaving.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 26, 2008, 12:52:18 PM
How sad for you.  :'(

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on May 26, 2008, 01:09:25 PM
I saw the third one at the cinema, and was very entertained by it (though was flagging towards the end), liking the fighting elephants. Saw the first one on DVD on a big telly: incredibly boring.

I watched Fanny and Alexander in its intended TV installments, and it's really the best way to get the most enjoyment out of it. To call it 'horrible' is just provocative madness at work.


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on May 26, 2008, 04:38:04 PM
I hated the Fellowship, didn't watch Two Towers, and watched an hour of King before getting massively bored and leaving.


I had similar experience. The first one bored me to tears but I figured the problem was me so I gave the second one a chance and was again bored stiff. I never bother with the last film. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on May 26, 2008, 06:08:54 PM
Oh if not liking LOTR is unpopular then count me in!

I figured I owed Pete Jackson for Braindead, which I never got a chance to see on the big screen. I was generally bored stiff except for the action scenes, which makes Return of the King a fun ol' trip.

Don't think I'll ever watch these again, even when I've flicked onto one on telly I soon find something better to do, like watch The Frighteners.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 26, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on May 26, 2008, 06:19:33 PM
I don't hate LOTR; it just doesn't interest me.

I am weary of fantasy, but am not opposed to it as an entire genre. Case in point: Miyazaki.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on May 26, 2008, 06:20:53 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )



I preferred the films to the books. I've read them twice now, when I was 11 and about 4 years ago. I always thought there was too much time spent on the history and language of every single race or tribe. The Hobbit gets it just right and is his best book by some distance.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 26, 2008, 06:31:55 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )



I preferred the films to the books. I've read them twice now, when I was 11 and about 4 years ago. I always thought there was too much time spent on the history and language of every single race or tribe. The Hobbit gets it just right and is his best book by some distance.

Wow, I have no conception of how it could be possible to like the films more than the books.  :)  I love The Hobbit, but I think it has less depth, fewer philosophical or mythic musings - it's just a smashingly fun adventure story, and it's the trilogy that I find myself reading over and over again, not The Hobbit. I'm fascinated by what Tolkien was attempting to do with the trilogy - not just write a story but create a myth that burst the boundaries of the books themselves.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on May 26, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )



I preferred the films to the books. I've read them twice now, when I was 11 and about 4 years ago. I always thought there was too much time spent on the history and language of every single race or tribe. The Hobbit gets it just right and is his best book by some distance.

Bingo!  I love the story and characters but I hated the way Tolkien wrote them.  Plus how many pages of Sam and Frodo walking and eating Lembas bread do I need?  Randall was on the money in Clerks II about that part....


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on May 26, 2008, 06:51:07 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )



I preferred the films to the books. I've read them twice now, when I was 11 and about 4 years ago. I always thought there was too much time spent on the history and language of every single race or tribe. The Hobbit gets it just right and is his best book by some distance.

Wow, I have no conception of how it could be possible to like the films more than the books.  :)  I love The Hobbit, but I think it has less depth, fewer philosophical or mythic musings - it's just a smashingly fun adventure story, and it's the trilogy that I find myself reading over and over again, not The Hobbit. I'm fascinated by what Tolkien was attempting to do with the trilogy - not just write a story but create a myth that burst the boundaries of the books themselves.



I understand. His ambition with the trilogy is staggering but he has too many ideas for the three books. A lot of them can seem tagged on and never fully fleshed out whereas I thought the Hobbit was just a better book even though I concede it does have far less depth than the trilogy. It just works better as a story. The trilogy introduced whole chapters just to get an idea across but they didn't always flow with the rhythm or the tone of the story. For instance I would have loved if he spent more time with the character Tom Bombadil but the story moves swiftly on. I think the three books are good but would have been a better six books.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 26, 2008, 07:02:25 PM
I see what you mean, but I think I love the fact that he introduces characters and stories and doesn't flesh them out completely. It works in that those gaps make the stories feel like history or myth in which you understand that you as the reader are only hearing or seeing one part of the world - you get little glimpses into other parts of it. Characters like Tom Bombadil are part of what I mean when I say the trilogy bursts the boundaries of the books themselves.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 26, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )



I preferred the films to the books. I've read them twice now, when I was 11 and about 4 years ago. I always thought there was too much time spent on the history and language of every single race or tribe. The Hobbit gets it just right and is his best book by some distance.

Wow, I have no conception of how it could be possible to like the films more than the books.  :)  I love The Hobbit, but I think it has less depth, fewer philosophical or mythic musings - it's just a smashingly fun adventure story, and it's the trilogy that I find myself reading over and over again, not The Hobbit. I'm fascinated by what Tolkien was attempting to do with the trilogy - not just write a story but create a myth that burst the boundaries of the books themselves.



I understand. His ambition with the trilogy is staggering but he has too many ideas for the three books. A lot of them can seem tagged on and never fully fleshed out whereas I thought the Hobbit was just a better book even though I concede it does have far less depth than the trilogy. It just works better as a story. The trilogy introduced whole chapters just to get an idea across but they didn't always flow with the rhythm or the tone of the story. For instance I would have loved if he spent more time with the character Tom Bombadil but the story moves swiftly on. I think the three books are good but would have been a better six books.

Six books?! Well, I think you really have to fall in love with Tolkien's creation to want that. Don't get me wrong, I think the books are entertaining, but fantasy is not really my thing. Other than LOTR, I don't touch the fantasy genre, whether in novels or films. I'm a big fan of English novels that are well written, that use the English language well, you know, a bit sophiticated. That's another reason why I thought the trilogy was a fun read. But with regards to the plot, it was a bit long. I think someone in this discussion mentioned that too much time was spent on the backstory of the cultures and languages, and I agree with this.
If your in to this kind of stuff, then have a ball, but I found the length of the books to be more than enough. Any longer and I wonder if I would have finished them.
The films really did it for me. I found them supremely entertaining. It think it had a lot to do with the cast and the action sequences.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 26, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
I'm a big fan of English novels that are well written, that use the English language well, you know, a bit sophiticated. . . . But with regards to the plot, it was a bit long.

Do you like Victorian novels? Talk about long, convoluted plots . . . (Yay!! I love me some of those.  :) )
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 26, 2008, 07:17:22 PM
No I haven't read any unfortunately. But I can imagine how well written they are. Authors wrote so well back in the day.
It's the same thing in French. I usually don't touch contemporary stuff, but give a Dumas or Hugo and I'm ready to dig in.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on May 26, 2008, 09:08:00 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )



It's true that I'm generally not a big fantasy fan, but there are other genres that I'm not that into but I like the standards. For instance I'm not really into musicals but I've watched some of the classics and have really liked some of them. The LOTR trilogy is so big that I expected it to transcend fantasy the way Singin' in the Rain is enjoyable for musical-haters, and Goodfellas is appreciated by those not typically into crime.   
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 26, 2008, 09:41:33 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )


What constitutes fantasy films exactly? (Bear in mind, that I rarely actually read)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 26, 2008, 10:00:49 PM
Do you all LOTR haters dislike the fantasy genre or just these particular movies? Just curious. (I have no particular interest in defending the movies, by the way, though I'd fight to the death over the books.  ;) )


What constitutes fantasy films exactly? (Bear in mind, that I rarely actually read)

Hmmm. I'd say fantasy involves magic, mythic or make-believe creatures, and possible some kind of supernatural activity. I'm not really a fantasy expert, but I'm thinking of films like Narnia, Harry Potter, Neverending Story, possibly even something like Pan's Labyrinth (though that's probably not true fantasy b/c the fantastic isn't actually "real" in the world of the film). I'd say, too, that there's some overlap between sci-fi and fairy tale, though I'm not sure I can articulate the difference very well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 26, 2008, 10:04:13 PM
I'd mostly say I tend not to see them more than anything.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on May 26, 2008, 10:30:38 PM
possibly even something like Pan's Labyrinth (though that's probably not true fantasy b/c the fantastic isn't actually "real" in the world of the film)

I do not agree with this. I think the fantasy is absolutely real in the world of the film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on May 26, 2008, 11:17:50 PM
I realize this is the unpopular *movie* opinions thread, but I just have to interject that anybody who wanted *more* Tom Bombadil in the Lord of the Rings books is not someone I think I'll ever understand. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 26, 2008, 11:24:07 PM
possibly even something like Pan's Labyrinth (though that's probably not true fantasy b/c the fantastic isn't actually "real" in the world of the film)

I do not agree with this. I think the fantasy is absolutely real in the world of the film.

I don't think you're understanding what I mean? In Pan's Labyrinth, the girl is imagining all those things, right? So they're not "real" in that film's world though that's not saying they don't have a reality for the girl individually that affects her perception.

 In Harry Potter's world, magic really does exist; in Narnia, there really are talking animals - the children characters are not imagining those things.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 26, 2008, 11:28:07 PM
I don't think you're understanding what I mean? In Pan's Labyrinth, the girl is imagining all those things, right? So they're not "real" in that film's world though that's not saying they don't have a reality for the girl individually that affects her perception.

I'm pretty sure he understood you but disagrees on that interpretation of the film.  This is probably not the right place to discuss Pan's Labyrinth spoilers, but what are the signifiers in the film that make you think the fantastic elements have to be read as not part of the real world of the film?

I'm just playing moderator here, by the way.  I don't really have an opinion, except one that gets us back on topic:

Pan's Labyrinth left me kind of cold.

Okay, so that's not an opinion but a fact.  You get what I mean, though.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 27, 2008, 12:18:23 AM
I don't think you're understanding what I mean? In Pan's Labyrinth, the girl is imagining all those things, right? So they're not "real" in that film's world though that's not saying they don't have a reality for the girl individually that affects her perception.

I'm pretty sure he understood you but disagrees on that interpretation of the film.  This is probably not the right place to discuss Pan's Labyrinth spoilers, but what are the signifiers in the film that make you think the fantastic elements have to be read as not part of the real world of the film?

I'm just playing moderator here, by the way.  I don't really have an opinion, except one that gets us back on topic:

Pan's Labyrinth left me kind of cold.

Okay, so that's not an opinion but a fact.  You get what I mean, though.

pixote

Nice points; yes, I get what you mean. I'd say, though, that if the fantasy of Pan's Labyrinth is debatable, it doesn't really belong in the "pure" fantasy genre. (It might be a comment on the fantasy genre itself? How it functions?) Although, ha!, I'm hardly an expert as I said. I'd bow to a more knowledgeable opinion.

To defend why I thought the fantasy was imaginary, I guess I'd say that it was primarily because only the girl seemed to see the fantastical world. I'm going by other critics, too, like Kermode, who describe the film's fantasy as being a girl's imagination, a way of escaping and explaining the real world which she didn't understand and can't really cope with. Maybe I don't want the fantasy to be real because if it was, that'd seem less interesting in terms of the girl's psychology.

(Pan's Labyrinth left me kind of cold, too, though I have to admire the filmmaking, and I don't really ever want to see it again. It's a one-timer for me.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 27, 2008, 12:21:57 AM
Unpopular movie opinions

Pan's Labyrinth is seriously overrated. 'I was bored' overrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 27, 2008, 12:33:36 AM
Maybe I don't want the fantasy to be real because if it was, that'd seem less interesting in terms of the girl's psychology.

I think that subjective point is probably the key here.  Because, thinking about it, the film of The Wizard of Oz falls into the exact same category, but I doubt there's any question that that's a fantasy film.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 27, 2008, 12:38:54 AM
Maybe I don't want the fantasy to be real because if it was, that'd seem less interesting in terms of the girl's psychology.

I think that subjective point is probably the key here.  Because, thinking about it, the film of The Wizard of Oz falls into the exact same category, but I doubt there's any question that that's a fantasy film.

pixote

I actually almost put Wizard of Oz in my initial list of ideas, but then second-guessed that choice.  Granted, when I was a kid, I didn't get that Oz was all a dream at the end - I thought the adult characters were just being silly in not believing Dorothy; I still don't want to believe that it wasn't real.  ;D  (In the book, by the way, the fantasy is real; Dorothy doesn't wake up at the end.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on May 27, 2008, 12:46:19 AM
The thing with Pan's Labyrinth is that del Toro specifically made it ambiguous as to whether it is fantasy or reality. In the commentary on the DVD he points out the things that go pro- and anti- fantasy. He basically leaves it up to the viewers to decide. He does, however, say that he believes that the "fantasy" was real.

Also, you are all crazy. Pan's Labyrinth is an awesome movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on May 27, 2008, 12:49:19 AM
The thing with Pan's Labyrinth is that del Toro specifically made it ambiguous as to whether it is fantasy or reality. In the commentary on the DVD he points out the things that go pro- and anti- fantasy. He basically leaves it up to the viewers to decide. He does, however, say that he believes that the "fantasy" was real.

I do remember hearing an interview with him in which he described his childhood as truly fantastical - creatures of his imagination were actually real to him. Also, his grandmother used to try to cast devils out of him, I think.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on May 27, 2008, 03:19:53 AM
I'm so glad other people have said they were disappointed with Pan's Labyrinth. I've been physically abused* for not liking this film, or as I put it, not liking the film that's about as fantastical as Labyrinth but without the awesomeness of David Bowie to keep in interesting.

Maybe it suffered from being praised immensely at the time, but I can generally look past that. Come on Hellboy 2, set things write in the world of Del Toro!

*well, almost
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on May 27, 2008, 05:17:46 AM
Apparently, not liking Pan's Labyrinth is not an unpopular opinion around here. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on May 27, 2008, 05:30:33 AM
Well, it's an incorrect opinion but that's the stuff of another thread ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on May 27, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
I loved Pan's Labyrinth...just thought I'd throw that into the argument.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on May 27, 2008, 12:11:05 PM
I loved Pan's Labyrinth...just thought I'd throw that into the argument.

Well now you're just being controversial for the sake of it.

 :)

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 27, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
Apparently, not liking Pan's Labyrinth is not an unpopular opinion around here. Fantastic.

Happy to be popular then - which table are we sitting at for lunch?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 27, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Apparently, not liking Pan's Labyrinth is not an unpopular opinion around here. Fantastic.
Of course it is because I'm not popular! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on May 28, 2008, 01:46:19 PM
I did some searching on the forums to see if I'd mentioned this before, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, here's one that I have a sinking feeling people here won't like:

I hate the zither score in The Third Man.

Don't hear what I'm not saying. I love everything else about that movie. But it drives me nuts that the gravity of everything is constantly undercut by that ridiculous and incongruous music. And on top of it all, the main theme is an earworm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earworm).

Look, I can appreciate that the music is a distinctive feature of the setting and they wanted to include it in the film. They could have used it as source music and I don't think it would bother me. But I will never understand the decision to use it as an actual score.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on May 28, 2008, 01:52:11 PM
I've got The Thin Red Line on tv right now and for the life of me I still cannot see what it is people like about this film.  This is my 6th viewing and all this movie does is frustrate the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on May 28, 2008, 02:07:02 PM
I've got The Thin Red Line on tv right now and for the life of me I still cannot see what it is people like about this film.  This is my 6th viewing and all this movie does is frustrate the hell out of me.

I like the music from it. That is the best thing about the movie for me - the chant singing.

I did some searching on the forums to see if I'd mentioned this before, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, here's one that I have a sinking feeling people here won't like:

I hate the zither score in The Third Man.

Don't hear what I'm not saying. I love everything else about that movie. But it drives me nuts that the gravity of everything is constantly undercut by that ridiculous and incongruous music. And on top of it all, the main theme is an earworm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earworm).

Look, I can appreciate that the music is a distinctive feature of the setting and they wanted to include it in the film. They could have used it as source music and I don't think it would bother me. But I will never understand the decision to use it as an actual score.

And I like the music in this film because it keeps a really, really dark film light and enjoyable. It is like diluting your arsenic with sweet milk. Only after you've ingested it do you realize how deadly it really is.

On the Pan's Labyrinth front, I thought the entire production was ham-fisted and unsubtle. For a movie that is all about thinking for yourself and being anti-fascist, there is a lot of "you can only interpret my film one way" about it. The rebels are always good and beautiful. The military people are all cruel, cold hearted, and in case you didn't get the point, disfigured in a way normally reserved for Batman villains.

Whether or not you agree with the fantasy/reality interpretation aspect of it, you are not allowed to argue with the absolute good guys/absolute bad guys morality of it.

Here is what I think is an unpopular opinion - Darren Aronofsky has yet to truly challenge himself. He covers up his ideas with a lot of bells and whistles, but he has yet to do something deep and personal.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 28, 2008, 06:42:32 PM
Here is what I think is an unpopular opinion - Darren Aronofsky has yet to truly challenge himself. He covers up his ideas with a lot of bells and whistles, but he has yet to do something deep and personal.

My opinion (unpopular?) would be that deep and personal films should mostly be kept to oneself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on May 28, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
eh?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 28, 2008, 09:59:27 PM
Aronofsky is a pretty good director. I wouldn't say he covers anything up. I think his stories and the visuals in his stories are meant to be challenging to the audience, which I think they are rather successful at.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on May 28, 2008, 10:00:22 PM
Here is what I think is an unpopular opinion - Darren Aronofsky has yet to truly challenge himself. He covers up his ideas with a lot of bells and whistles, but he has yet to do something deep and personal.

My opinion (unpopular?) would be that deep and personal films should mostly be kept to oneself.

Understood.

But I think Aronofsky acts like he is doing something deep and personal when he isn't. I would him rather direct something like Transformers 2 than to do another "this movie is about my obsession with death and aren't I profound because no one has contemplated his or her own mortality before me - especially since I contemplate death using MTV-style editing" film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 28, 2008, 10:08:01 PM
Here is what I think is an unpopular opinion - Darren Aronofsky has yet to truly challenge himself. He covers up his ideas with a lot of bells and whistles, but he has yet to do something deep and personal.

My opinion (unpopular?) would be that deep and personal films should mostly be kept to oneself.

Understood.

But I think Aronofsky acts like he is doing something deep and personal when he isn't. I would him rather direct something like Transformers 2 than to do another "this movie is about my obsession with death and aren't I profound because no one has contemplated his or her own mortality before me - especially since I contemplate death using MTV-style editing" film.


MTV editing? Perhaps, but for some reason it doesn't quite bother me as much as with other films. He seems to get away with it because there is some interesting things going on in his movies, interesting tales, messages or thoughts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on May 28, 2008, 10:11:02 PM
Aronofsky is a pretty good director. I wouldn't say he covers anything up. I think his stories and the visuals in his stories are meant to be challenging to the audience, which I think they are rather successful at.

I don't think they're challenging at all. Did you actually see the last 5 minutes of Pi? I don't know what you took from that, but I took, "Life is better if we forcibly remove what makes us different and all be stupid." I also took, "Help! I've directed myself into a corner and don't know how to end this film!"

And Requiem for a Dream gave us the challenging message, "Drugs are bad. And people who take any drug in any amount will automatically become an addict and die horribly. And drugs can be anywhere! Even TELEVISION can even be a drug!"

And The Fountain - "I don't wanna die, but someday I'm gonna."

Most people get this sort of thing out of their systems in high school or college.

MTV editing? Perhaps, but for some reason it doesn't quite bother me as much as with other films. He seems to get away with it because there is some interesting things going on in his movies, interesting tales, messages or thoughts.

And this is where you are dead on. He has some really good moments in all of his films. There are glimpses of brilliance. I wish he would make a film that was brilliant through and through instead of giving us a moment or two and then flooding the rest of the film with bells and whistles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 28, 2008, 10:14:12 PM
I suspect you could reduce any film to such laughably simplicity, though I don't have the heart to try.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on May 28, 2008, 10:24:43 PM
I suspect you could reduce any film to such laughably simplicity, though I don't have the heart to try.

pixote

You can. And when you say "laughably simplicity," does that mean you laughed? Because that was the goal.

And, yes, I have been accused before of not having a heart.

Finally, for the record, I do like Requiem for a Dream and all of Pi except the last five minutes. The Fountain, not so much. Part of the whole "unpopular opinions" thing is arguing for arguments sake. Basically, I think Aronofsky could be doing much better than he is. He has the talent to be up there with PT Anderson and the Coen Bros.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on May 28, 2008, 10:27:25 PM
I suspect you could reduce any film to such laughably simplicity, though I don't have the heart to try.

pixote

You can. I have been accused before of not having a heart.

And, for the record, I do like Requiem for a Dream and all of Pi except the last five minutes. The Fountain, not so much. Part of the whole "unpopular opinions" thing is arguing for arguments sake.

Fair enough. We will agree to disagree, unless you don't agree with that. :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on May 28, 2008, 10:32:31 PM
I suspect you could reduce any film to such laughably simplicity, though I don't have the heart to try.

pixote

You can. I have been accused before of not having a heart.

And, for the record, I do like Requiem for a Dream and all of Pi except the last five minutes. The Fountain, not so much. Part of the whole "unpopular opinions" thing is arguing for arguments sake.

Fair enough. We will agree to disagree, unless you don't agree with that. :D

I agree- er... disagre-

Um... I will walk away from this topic.

:D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on May 28, 2008, 10:42:32 PM

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I contemplate death using MTV-style editing" film.
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This is the coolest quote I've seen on this board!  I pray I can work into a casual conversation or a meeting at work.  Well played sir!  Well Played!


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on May 29, 2008, 12:45:52 AM
Finally, for the record, I do like Requiem for a Dream and all of Pi except the last five minutes. The Fountain, not so much. Part of the whole "unpopular opinions" thing is arguing for arguments sake. Basically, I think Aronofsky could be doing much better than he is. He has the talent to be up there with PT Anderson and the Coen Bros.

I do like the end of Pi, though I agree with your description of it.  I also strongly agree with your last two sentences here.

Wasn't he one of the directors that was going to make Superman before Brian Singer ended up with it?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on May 29, 2008, 12:58:04 AM
Finally, for the record, I do like Requiem for a Dream and all of Pi except the last five minutes. The Fountain, not so much. Part of the whole "unpopular opinions" thing is arguing for arguments sake. Basically, I think Aronofsky could be doing much better than he is. He has the talent to be up there with PT Anderson and the Coen Bros.

I do like the end of Pi, though I agree with your description of it.  I also strongly agree with your last two sentences here.

Wasn't he one of the directors that was going to make Superman before Brian Singer ended up with it?
I thought it was that he was going to have Batman Begins before Nolan.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on May 29, 2008, 01:15:18 AM
OK.  Either way, it would have been interesting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 29, 2008, 08:31:13 AM

I hate the zither score in The Third Man.
Just saw that film and I agree 100%
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on May 29, 2008, 09:25:25 AM
I hate the zither score in The Third Man.
Just saw that film and I agree 100%

I'm glad you two have company in your insanity.  :P

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on May 29, 2008, 10:22:55 AM
Pi is very good. But Requiem for a Dream, well, I don't regret seeing it, and I was completely engaged during the movie, but after I walked out and I thought about what it was actually saying I got the same feeling as m_rturnage did and got annoyed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: indieabby88 on June 02, 2008, 11:08:34 PM
"Requiem" is a movie I thought was interesting the first time I saw it (love that score), but I have no desire to see it again. It did its job the first time, and that was really all I needed. However, I do think Aronofsky's an interesting director. I haven't gotten to see "The Fountain" yet, but it's on the list.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on June 18, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
This probably isn't surprising to most of you, but I really don't like Star Wars.

I tried watching The Empire Strikes Back a couple of days ago and fell asleep twice. I don't dislike them but eh...

Also, I really enjoy reviving this topic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 18, 2008, 06:05:43 PM
-The Godfather is boring and, like Peter Griffin, I haven't even finished the movie because I always get bored or fall asleep.
-The Darjeeling limited is Anderson's best film after Rushmore
-I love the first two Pirates movies and definitely enjoy the third one
-Cars was awesome!
-Jersey Girl is great (for a Kevin Smith film)
-Pi is terrible in almost every way and Aronofsky can't direct a good film to save his life
-Superman II is a piece of garbage. At least Superman III was funny. Yes. Superman III is more entertaining than II
-Back to the Future is possibly one of the Top 10 best American films ever made
-Hot Fuzz is about 10,000 times better than Shaun of the Dead
-Lucas didn't rape my childhood
-The Black Dahlia was amazing!!!!*


*(Just kidding!)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 18, 2008, 06:19:10 PM

-Jersey Girl is great (for a Kevin Smith film)


I thought the little girl was great.  It's a sweet movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 18, 2008, 08:10:50 PM
-Cars was awesome!

One question: Do you like watching NASCAR?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on June 18, 2008, 09:26:23 PM
GUMP
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 18, 2008, 10:26:46 PM
-Cars was awesome!

One question: Do you like watching NASCAR?

I'm a Canadian teenager living in a suburb of Toronto. NASCAR is just about the furthest thing from entertainment in my opinion. And that would be why I put that as an "unpopular movie opinion."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: enzobot24 on June 19, 2008, 04:52:09 AM
Cars was pretty good... on the flip-side, I hated Finding Nemo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on June 19, 2008, 07:34:02 AM
Hot Fuzz is indeed better than Shaun of the Dead.


Although I'm not into Star Wars as much anymore: Revenge of the Sith is better than the original Star Wars
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 19, 2008, 08:54:19 AM
Cars was pretty good... on the flip-side, I hated Finding Nemo.

AGREE! Although I didn't like Cars either.  Those two are at the bottom of the Pixar list for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on June 19, 2008, 09:36:12 AM
And yet again the internet proves the impossible.  Opinions can be wrong.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on June 19, 2008, 09:53:53 AM
Hot Fuzz is indeed better than Shaun of the Dead.




Seeing that causes me physical pain. It is simply not true!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on June 19, 2008, 10:45:43 AM
Taste of Cherry (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3864.0#new) [link to spoiler thread]
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on June 19, 2008, 12:42:35 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on June 19, 2008, 12:50:23 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.

Are you not into British humor?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on June 19, 2008, 12:55:50 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.

Are you not into British humor?

i think it is probably more about them being bad than commenting on something as generic as british humor ;)  i've only seen SotD and thought it was fairly thoroughly tedious with a great pay-off
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on June 19, 2008, 01:04:17 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.

Are you not into British humor?

nah, I like British humor alright. I suppose I don't see why these two films have developed such huge fan followings. I just think that the films are OK.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on June 19, 2008, 01:23:28 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.

Are you not into British humor?

i think it is probably more about them being bad than commenting on something as generic as british humor ;)  i've only seen SotD and thought it was fairly thoroughly tedious with a great pay-off

I thought they were thoroughly British films - esp Shaun - and some of the most hilarious moments were based on classic British understatement.

Shaun is neither "bad" nor "tedious." Guess you can't be right about everything.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on June 19, 2008, 02:47:07 PM
SotD is a perfect movie. It contains one brilliant hilarious moment after another after another. I could go a whole day and only speak in Shaun Quotes. It doesn't matter if you like British comedy. Shaun is funny in any country.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on June 19, 2008, 04:24:30 PM
SotD is a perfect movie. It contains one brilliant hilarious moment after another after another. I could go a whole day and only speak in Shaun Quotes. It doesn't matter if you like British comedy. Shaun is funny in any country.

I agree that it ought to be thoroughly hilarious for anyone. But I will stand by saying that it is a particularly British film. If you gave it Amercan actors, an American setting, and American sensibilities (or whatever nationality, substitute French, Italian, whatever), it would be a completely different film, and it wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 19, 2008, 04:52:07 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.

You're overrated!!!!!!

-Tom Cruise is a great actor
-Meryl Streep is boring
-V for Vendetta is an awful piece of trash
-The Majestic rules!
-Transformers was a blast
-Troll 2, though terrible beyond belief, is actually more enyable as a narrative than Into the Wild
-The Graduate is the most dated movie I've ever seen
-Tim Burton has become a hack ever. His last good movie was Big Fish
-Magnolia, Boogie Nights and Punch Drunk Love are all better than There Will Be Blood
-The Science of Sleep was way better than Eternal Sunshine
-David Lynch pisses me off.
-Tarantino peaked at Reservoir Dogs and his best movie is True Romance by far
-Fight Club, while awesome, is slow as hell. It's a 2 hour movie that feels like 4.
-Sin City is awful
-Back to the Future Part III is great!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on June 19, 2008, 05:06:24 PM
eh, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are overrated.

You're overrated!!!!!!

-Tom Cruise is a great actor
-Meryl Streep is boring
-V for Vendetta is an awful piece of trash
-The Majestic rules!
-Transformers was a blast
-Troll 2, though terrible beyond belief, is actually more enyable as a narrative than Into the Wild
-The Graduate is the most dated movie I've ever seen
-Tim Burton has become a hack ever. His last good movie was Big Fish
-Magnolia, Boogie Nights and Punch Drunk Love are all better than There Will Be Blood
-The Science of Sleep was way better than Eternal Sunshine
-David Lynch pisses me off.
-Tarantino peaked at Reservoir Dogs and his best movie is True Romance by far
-Fight Club, while awesome, is slow as hell. It's a 2 hour movie that feels like 4.
-Sin City is awful
-Back to the Future Part III is great!

I agree, these are unpopular movie opinions!  Though I do agree with some of them.  Particularly about The Majestic, Fight Club, and Tom Cruise.  Though he only has the ability to be great, most of the time he's just average....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 19, 2008, 05:38:48 PM
So to recap the previous thirty-three pages for those of you just joining us:  All movies suck.  Except for the ones that don't.  And yet they do, too.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 19, 2008, 05:41:27 PM
SotD is a perfect movie. It contains one brilliant hilarious moment after another after another. I could go a whole day and only speak in Shaun Quotes. It doesn't matter if you like British comedy. Shaun is funny in any country.

  Classic SotD moment - after Shaun pushes the zombie onto the pipe in his backyard and she gets up, you see Shaun and Ed through the hole in her stomach and Ed starts to wind the film on the disposable camera so he can take a picture...classic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on June 19, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
Yeeesss! David Lynch is ridiculously overrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 19, 2008, 06:02:00 PM
Yeeesss! David Lynch is ridiculously overrated.

Amen to that!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on June 19, 2008, 06:09:27 PM
Yeeesss! David Lynch is ridiculously overrated.

Amen to that!

When I'm having a bad day I simply remind myself of that fact and I suddenly feel better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 19, 2008, 06:48:53 PM
I agree, these are unpopular movie opinions!  Though I do agree with some of them.  Particularly about The Majestic, Fight Club, and Tom Cruise.  Though he only has the ability to be great, most of the time he's just average....

Yeah. I actually feel exactly the same way about Tom Cruise.

SotD is a perfect movie. It contains one brilliant hilarious moment after another after another. I could go a whole day and only speak in Shaun Quotes. It doesn't matter if you like British comedy. Shaun is funny in any country.


  Classic SotD moment - after Shaun pushes the zombie onto the pipe in his backyard and she gets up, you see Shaun and Ed through the hole in her stomach and Ed starts to wind the film on the disposable camera so he can take a picture...classic.

I don't know about perfect, but it is awesome to the max. Hot Fuzz is just way more awesome to the max.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 19, 2008, 07:02:45 PM

-V for Vendetta is an awful piece of trash

The key here is unpopular movie opinions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on June 19, 2008, 07:43:21 PM
The only thing I love more than this thread is jbisell's avatar!  That is truly awesome my friend! 

SotD totally rocks, one of the many parts that cracks me up even though it's so stupid is when they're trapped in the pub the jukebox starts playing Queen music:
Shaun: David, kill the Queen!
David: What?
Shaun: The jukebox!

It's stupid and not very funny to type it but in the movie it makes me laugh every single time. 

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 19, 2008, 09:22:29 PM

-V for Vendetta is an awful piece of trash

The key here is unpopular movie opinions.

Maybe here in Filmspotting world that's true, but I regularly have people call me certifiably insane for not like it. The love for V for Vendetta is very strong.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on June 19, 2008, 11:29:59 PM
The only thing I love more than this thread is jbisell's avatar!  That is truly awesome my friend! 

SotD totally rocks, one of the many parts that cracks me up even though it's so stupid is when they're trapped in the pub the jukebox starts playing Queen music:
Shaun: David, kill the Queen!
David: What?
Shaun: The jukebox!

It's stupid and not very funny to type it but in the movie it makes me laugh every single time. 




I love that scene as well. I know this is becoming a SotD fanclub thread, but have to add my favorite quote...

"I ran it under a cold tap."


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on June 19, 2008, 11:31:04 PM
That's why it's an unpopular opinion :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on June 20, 2008, 12:16:14 AM
I don't actually know the consensus on Titanic around here, but I think it is a really great movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 20, 2008, 02:28:42 AM
I like Titanic. It's a good movie. But I didn't think it was spectacular or anything. And I certainly can't understand how it made so much money and won so many Oscars.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 20, 2008, 06:27:52 AM
It's not spectacular but a spectacle. All the design and craftsmanship in this film is pretty awe-inspiring and that's why I like it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on June 20, 2008, 06:36:27 AM
I feel like forming the ExistenZ fan club. Who's in?  :)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u12/brcfr/exitenz.jpg)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 20, 2008, 08:35:39 AM
I feel like forming the ExistenZ fan club. Who's in?  :)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u12/brcfr/exitenz.jpg)

  I am - that has been in heavy rotation on Showtime lately and I have been watching it a lot. Get's better (and freakier) everytime.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on June 20, 2008, 09:05:05 AM
And Jason-Leigh gets HOTTER?   :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 20, 2008, 10:27:34 AM
I feel like forming the ExistenZ fan club. Who's in?  :)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u12/brcfr/exitenz.jpg)

+1
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on June 20, 2008, 10:29:44 AM
I feel like forming the ExistenZ fan club. Who's in?  :)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u12/brcfr/exitenz.jpg)

+2 (though i haven't seen it in a couple/few years)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 20, 2008, 10:50:54 AM
The Z at the end of the title continues to keep me from seeing this movie.  The name looks like spam competition to Enzyte.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 20, 2008, 12:36:27 PM
I'm in too. It's great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 20, 2008, 01:01:40 PM
I feel like having a mini Cronenberg marathon this weekend.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on June 20, 2008, 01:23:03 PM
I feel like having a mini Cronenberg marathon this weekend.

that would be fun, my possible minis:

The Not Seen:
A History of Violence
The Dead Zone
Scanners
Fast Company
[??!]

The Faves:
Videodrome
Dead Ringers
Crash
Shivers
eXistenZ


The Refresher:

The Fly
M. Butterfly
Spider
Eastern Promises
Naked Lunch


this reminds me how much i like cronenberg
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on June 20, 2008, 01:41:35 PM
And it'd be such a fun marathon!

Please see ExistenZ, Pixote: it's quite a silly film, but it's clearly made with a lot of love and is refreshingly different from most sci-fi these days.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 24, 2008, 01:47:13 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on June 24, 2008, 01:50:53 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

You know, all the way through that movie I kept whispering to my wife, "Isn't he supposed to be a lawyer? Doesn't that mean he's college educated? As in, having an advanced degree? Why isn't he acting like he has an advanced degree? Doesn't he know the potential liabilities of his actions, being a lawyer and all? Oh, look! Another lawsuit waiting to happen!"
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 24, 2008, 01:51:17 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

  Put the crack-pipe down slowly and step away...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 24, 2008, 02:34:50 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

  Put the crack-pipe down slowly and step away...

Pix has been hanging out with Amy Winehouse too much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 24, 2008, 02:51:32 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Elektra?

Oh wait, you said "best" Marvel film to date.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on June 24, 2008, 03:16:45 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

Do you really believe that or are you just taking advantage of the vague thread title?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 24, 2008, 03:27:33 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.
Do you really believe that or are you just taking advantage of the vague thread title?

No, I really believe it.  Farrell's Bullseye is a blast, especially compared to the unintentional comedy of the Green Goblin or Doc Oc.  Favreau brightens every seen he's in, saving the film from the boring ponderousness of the X-Men films.  Affleck isn't ideal, but he's not asked to do that much, so it works out.  And though I cringed to hear that the Simon Birch guy would be handling the adaptation, I was impressed with his visualization of sound as sight, and I totally love the romantic idea of only being truly able to see the person you love in the rain.  The scene on the seesaw bothered me, as did everything from the point the bullet hits the hand until the end (why, oh why, cram a dumb confrontation with Kingpin into the movie?) and a few stray one-liners.  But I'm always able to overlook those things and have a great time.

I really need to see the extended cut to see how it compares.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on June 24, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

You know, all the way through that movie I kept whispering to my wife, "Isn't he supposed to be a lawyer? Doesn't that mean he's college educated? As in, having an advanced degree? Why isn't he acting like he has an advanced degree? Doesn't he know the potential liabilities of his actions, being a lawyer and all? Oh, look! Another lawsuit waiting to happen!"

apparently you haven't met many people with advanced degrees
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on June 24, 2008, 03:39:36 PM
But I'm always able to overlook those things and have a great time.

And I am able to do so with the power of my trusty crack pipe. Thanks, crack pipe! You make every movie better!

Despite some missteps, Daredevil is the best Marvel film to date.

pixote

I have. Most of them are unable to work seesaws, let alone have a big choreographed encounter on one.

You know, all the way through that movie I kept whispering to my wife, "Isn't he supposed to be a lawyer? Doesn't that mean he's college educated? As in, having an advanced degree? Why isn't he acting like he has an advanced degree? Doesn't he know the potential liabilities of his actions, being a lawyer and all? Oh, look! Another lawsuit waiting to happen!"

apparently you haven't met many people with advanced degrees

I have, but most of them can't work seesaws, much less have incredibly choreographed encounters on them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 24, 2008, 03:40:37 PM
I liked the first ten minutes but after the father dies, so does the movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on June 24, 2008, 03:42:14 PM

No, I really believe it.  Farrell's Bullseye is a blast, especially compared to the unintentional comedy of the Green Goblin or Doc Oc. 

pixote

I'm just curious what the unintentional comic scenes were. I didn't notice them at the time, but then again I am one of those people who takes superhero movies way to seriously. death to emo spiderman.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 24, 2008, 03:50:26 PM
I'm just curious what the unintentional comic scenes were.

The one that most stands out for me is the scene where the Green Goblin talks to himself in the mirror, and it's played like we're not supposed to know what's going on, even though it's obvious, and the dialogue is as awful as Dafoe's delivery of it.  I cringe at the thought of watching that scene again, but if it's on YouTube, I just might have to .... *checks* .... ehh, this is all I could find...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2lLdVwMgOtY (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2lLdVwMgOtY)

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on June 24, 2008, 03:56:03 PM
oh that's a shame, I really like that scene. It's pretty hammy I guess, but then again so are comics. I thought the reason it was portrayed as such was not because we weren't supposed to know what was going on. Rather, Osborne had no real idea what was going on in his head.

or maybe i'm making that up? it's been awhile . . .
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on June 24, 2008, 04:10:08 PM

The one that most stands out for me is the scene where the Green Goblin talks to himself in the mirror, and it's played like we're not supposed to know what's going on, even though it's obvious, and the dialogue is as awful as Dafoe's delivery of it. 

vs.

But I'm always able to overlook those things and have a great time.

I guess the real question has to do with the criteria for filtering out material that bothers you. Because I seem to remember Bullseye chewing up the scenery and spouting off bad dialogue in a way that puts Bobby Peru to shame.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 24, 2008, 04:16:53 PM
I don't think it's a matter of criteria so much as whether the other material is good enough to eclipse the bothersome bits.  In the Spider-Man films, it's not.  The X-Men films just about break even.  And Daredevil, for me, stays in the black, enjoyment-wise.  Same with The Lord of the Rings movies.  Elf boy skateboarding on his shield is way annoying, sure, but the overall battle at Helms Deep or whatever it's called is cool enough that it's not a huge deal.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on June 24, 2008, 04:21:13 PM
hmmmmm.  hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . There is no denying that you do indeed have some unusual opinions
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 24, 2008, 04:26:49 PM
Alfred Molina's Doc Ock might be my favorite villian in a Marvel movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on June 24, 2008, 04:54:36 PM
I don't think it's a matter of criteria so much as whether the other material is good enough to eclipse the bothersome bits.  In the Spider-Man films, it's not.  The X-Men films just about break even.  And Daredevil, for me, stays in the black, enjoyment-wise.  Same with The Lord of the Rings movies.  Elf boy skateboarding on his shield is way annoying, sure, but the overall battle at Helms Deep or whatever it's called is cool enough that it's not a huge deal.

pixote

For me the jungle chase in Indy IV was cool enough I was not bothered by the "Tarzan" part, but even though I kind of liked it, nuke fridge came close to pushing the limits....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on June 24, 2008, 04:58:29 PM
All the things that people didn't like about Indy IV (nuke fridge, gophers, tarzan, monkeys), I liked. The thing that drags that movie down is the unbelievably boring middle section.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 24, 2008, 05:00:32 PM
The thing that drags that movie down is the unbelievably boring middle section.
That's the part that ends with the credits, right?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on June 24, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
Yeah, sure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on June 24, 2008, 06:58:47 PM
All the things that people didn't like about Indy IV (nuke fridge, gophers, tarzan, monkeys), I liked. The thing that drags that movie down is the unbelievably boring middle section.

I liked the fridge too, but you're off base with those monkeys and gophers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 24, 2008, 10:23:26 PM
All the things that people didn't like about Indy IV (nuke fridge, gophers, tarzan, monkeys), I liked. The thing that drags that movie down is the unbelievably boring middle section.

I liked the fridge too, but you're off base with those monkeys and gophers.

No he's not. I loved all those things he loved. I loved the aliens. I loved the ending. I loved everything, except I agree that the movie dragged in the middle a bit. But I think that has to do with a bit of over-complicated plotting. Why can't the thrust of the plot be something simple like it was in the first films? Oh well. Indy 4 was a blast and you guys all suck for hating on it.

I also believe that Zoolander is on of the best comedies of the last 10 years. Take that for what you will.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 24, 2008, 10:32:03 PM
All the things that people didn't like about Indy IV (nuke fridge, gophers, tarzan, monkeys), I liked. The thing that drags that movie down is the unbelievably boring middle section.

I liked the fridge too, but you're off base with those monkeys and gophers.

No he's not. I loved all those things he loved. I loved the aliens. I loved the ending. I loved everything, except I agree that the movie dragged in the middle a bit. But I think that has to do with a bit of over-complicated plotting. Why can't the thrust of the plot be something simple like it was in the first films? Oh well. Indy 4 was a blast and you guys all suck for hating on it.

I also believe that Zoolander is on of the best comedies of the last 10 years. Take that for what you will.

All of the CGI'd animals in Indy 4 were an embarrassment. I'm with you on Zoolander, that gasoline fight gets me every time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on June 24, 2008, 11:02:46 PM
All the things that people didn't like about Indy IV (nuke fridge, gophers, tarzan, monkeys), I liked. The thing that drags that movie down is the unbelievably boring middle section.

I liked the fridge too, but you're off base with those monkeys and gophers.

No he's not. I loved all those things he loved. I loved the aliens. I loved the ending. I loved everything, except I agree that the movie dragged in the middle a bit. But I think that has to do with a bit of over-complicated plotting. Why can't the thrust of the plot be something simple like it was in the first films? Oh well. Indy 4 was a blast and you guys all suck for hating on it.

I also believe that Zoolander is on of the best comedies of the last 10 years. Take that for what you will.

Hansel is sooo hot right now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 24, 2008, 11:05:40 PM
Who are you tryin' to get crazy with, ese?  Don't you know I'm loco?

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on June 24, 2008, 11:16:04 PM
I agree that Zoolander is one of the best comdies of the last 10 years, it's actually among my top 5 all time.  But Indy is not good, at all.  In fact it's the worst movie I've seen this year.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on June 24, 2008, 11:46:34 PM


I also believe that Zoolander is on of the best comedies of the last 10 years. Take that for what you will.

I disagree, but not violently so. I can only take so many Ben Stiller movies in one lifetime. At least he wasn't playing an overly cautious single guy who gets mixed up in some girl's crazy life!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 24, 2008, 11:48:03 PM
At least he wasn't playing an overly cautious single guy who gets mixed up in some girl's crazy life!

I love that movie(s)!

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on June 25, 2008, 12:58:22 AM
At least he wasn't playing an overly cautious single guy who gets mixed up in some girl's crazy life!

I love that movie(s)!

pixote

I will always defend There's Something About Mary as a great romantic comedy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on June 25, 2008, 01:07:38 AM
At least he wasn't playing an overly cautious single guy who gets mixed up in some girl's crazy life!

I love that movie(s)!

pixote

I will always defend There's Something About Mary as a great romantic comedy.

I agree. I also like Night at the Museum and Meet The Parents to an extent. But does anyone on the planet need to see Along Came Polly, Meet The Fockers, or The Heartbreak Kid?

No.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on June 25, 2008, 07:15:11 AM
At least he wasn't playing an overly cautious single guy who gets mixed up in some girl's crazy life!

I love that movie(s)!

pixote

I will always defend There's Something About Mary as a great romantic comedy.

I agree. I also like Night at the Museum and Meet The Parents to an extent. But does anyone on the planet need to see Along Came Polly, Meet The Fockers, or The Heartbreak Kid?

No.



I have a some spot for the Fockers. Certainly not a great film but I just can't look away when it's on TV. My story is that the cast elevates the material, and I'm sticking to it.

I count Museum as a pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 25, 2008, 07:21:31 AM
Cable Guy is my favorite Ben Stiller comedy.  (Not sure if that's an unpopular opinion or not.)

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on June 25, 2008, 07:28:11 AM
Cable Guy is my favorite Ben Stiller comedy.  (Not sure if that's an unpopular opinion or not.)

pixote

Well it flopped but I think it has its following. I certainly like it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 25, 2008, 07:35:48 AM
I had to check with IMDB to confirm that he's actually in it (knowing that he directed it). I certainly can't remember his part. We should do Carey/Stiller comedy polls sometime.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on June 25, 2008, 07:52:31 AM
The Heartbreak Kid (Stiller version) is much better than people give it credit for.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 25, 2008, 07:58:44 AM
I had to check with IMDB to confirm that he's actually in it (knowing that he directed it). I certainly can't remember his part. We should do Carey/Stiller comedy polls sometime.

Heh, yeah, I was picturing him in the Matthew Broderick role.  Oops.

But still!

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 25, 2008, 08:03:13 AM
The Heartbreak Kid (Stiller version) is much better than people give it credit for.
It's really quite terrible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on June 25, 2008, 08:38:17 AM
The Heartbreak Kid (Stiller version) is much better than people give it credit for.
It's really quite terrible.

The odd thing is you're both right.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 25, 2008, 08:50:06 AM
I had to check with IMDB to confirm that he's actually in it (knowing that he directed it). I certainly can't remember his part. We should do Carey/Stiller comedy polls sometime.

  Carey = creepy
  I cannot stand the guy or his work. He single handedly ruined Eternal Sunshine for me (not a comedy I know but that's how much this guy irks me)...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on June 25, 2008, 08:55:03 AM
The Heartbreak Kid (Stiller version) is much better than people give it credit for.
It's really quite terrible.
Maybe it has something to do with expectations. The trailer made it look like a wacky comedy about a man who marries a seemingly perfect woman only to discover she's not so perfect when they go on honey moon, when what the Farrellys are doing, in fact, is playing on the typically likeable Stiller persona by turning him into a creep who is so freaked out by long-term commitment that he tricks himself (and to some extent, the audience) into thinking his wife has turned into some sort of grotesque monster just so he has an excuse to leave her. Unnecessary subplots and queef-based jokes aside, it's really quite decent.

(for the record, my averate rating of the Farrellys' body of work is still about (http://i25.tinypic.com/qp5qoo.jpg) )
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 25, 2008, 09:02:17 AM
...when what the Farrellys are doing, in fact, is playing on the typically likeable Stiller persona by turning him into a creep who is so freaked out by long-term commitment that he tricks himself (and to some extent, the audience) into thinking his wife has turned into some sort of grotesque monster just so he has an excuse to leave her.

Huh, that sounds pretty interesting, actually.  Maybe I'll check it out...

...queef-based jokes aside...

...or not.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on June 25, 2008, 09:04:26 AM
...queef-based jokes aside...

...or not.

pixote

Surprisingly, it only slips into Farrellydom two or three times.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 25, 2008, 09:16:18 AM
I'm with you on Zoolander, that gasoline fight gets me every time.

Ahahahahaha. That gasoline fight is glorious. And it's really the song that does it. Love that Wham!

Cable Guy is my favorite Ben Stiller comedy.  (Not sure if that's an unpopular opinion or not.)

pixote

Well it flopped but I think it has its following. I certainly like it.

I love The Cable Guy! It's actually also one of my favourite comedies. So dark. And Carrey is great in it.

And regarding The Heartbreak Kid. I walked out. And sure, I walked out of an after-work screening at 3am mostly because it was tired. But if the movie was actually any good on any level I would have stayed. And for reference, I once stayed at an after-work screening and watched all of 27 Dresses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on June 25, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
Cable guy is an underrated classic!  My friends and I still quote it when ever possible. 


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on June 29, 2008, 04:21:51 AM
Cars isn't just the worst Pixar film, it's worse than most animated movies of the last 10 years.  Shrek 3 was even a superior film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on June 29, 2008, 04:23:43 AM
Now that's not true. But Shrek 3 really wasn't that bad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 29, 2008, 08:59:34 AM
Cars was far better than anything Dreamworks had pulled out of their asses since Shrek. And Shrek 3 was absolutely awful. I love the first Shrek movie, but the second film wasn't so great and the third was a disaster. Compare Shrek 3 to Cars, which had heart and warmth and wonderful characters combined with stunning visuals and it's clear which is the winner. The only thing Cars lacks is the sheer originality of most of the other Pixar flicks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 29, 2008, 09:47:20 AM
Antz is the best DWA flick.  (is this unpopular?)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on June 29, 2008, 09:50:54 AM
Not as in a 'boo! down with Antz!' sense, no.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 29, 2008, 10:07:17 AM
I actually quite like Antz. I think A Bug's Life is the better film, but Antz is a bit more adult-oriented which makes it a very different kind of film. Unpopular would be saying your favourite film is Dreamworks' Shark Tale.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on June 29, 2008, 12:41:07 PM
Which is the film Goodfellas WANTS to be :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on June 29, 2008, 12:53:37 PM
Just came across a 1998 Jacques Rivette interview (http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/01/16/rivette.html) and this thread seems appropriate to share some highlights (though not all of these are unpopular opinions):

Quote
"Here's a good definition of mise en scène - it's what's lacking in the films of Joseph L. Mankiewicz."

On Titanic: "I agree completely with what Jean-Luc said in this week's Elle: it's garbage. Cameron isn't evil, he's not an asshole like Spielberg. He wants to be the new De Mille. Unfortunately, he can't direct his way out of a paper bag."

It's worse than Kubrick with A Clockwork Orange, a film that I hate just as much, not for cinematic reasons but for moral ones. I remember when it came out, Jacques Demy was so shocked that it made him cry. Kubrick is a machine, a mutant, a Martian. He has no human feeling whatsoever. But it's great when the machine films other machines, as in 2001.

On Starship Troopers: I've seen it twice and I like it a lot, but I prefer Showgirls, one of the great American films of the last few years.
I particularly like the image of A Clockwork Orange making Jacques Demy cry. That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on June 29, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Such a moral compass: finds Clockwork Orange offensive; loves Showgirls. Curious double standard, there.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on June 29, 2008, 03:05:09 PM
That actually makes sense in an odd way.  Showgirls is pure sleaze that is never in danger of being considered genuinely empowering, whereas Clockwork was empowering, in the same way that Taxi Driver and Trainspotting were.

I find the Starship Troopers thing odder, considering that some critics called it a fascist movie, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on June 29, 2008, 08:29:23 PM
That actually makes sense in an odd way.  Showgirls is pure sleaze that is never in danger of being considered genuinely empowering, whereas Clockwork was empowering, in the same way that Taxi Driver and Trainspotting were.

I find the Starship Troopers thing odder, considering that some critics called it a fascist movie, if I'm not mistaken.

  The source material is bordering on fascism - I was aghast when I read the book and had no idea what I was in for with the film. The political overtones were turned waaaaay down by Verhoven - it's one of my favorite sci-fi films.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 30, 2008, 10:55:30 AM
Cars isn't just the worst Pixar film, it's worse than most animated movies of the last 10 years.  Shrek 3 was even a superior film.
I'm semi inclined to agree but I'm sure I could dig up worse.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: essrog on June 30, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
I finally got around to seeing Network last night. Dear lord, is Paddy Chayevsky a heavy-handed windbag. You know you're in trouble when not only is a character clearly only a symbol, but is actually called a symbol by another character -- like when William Holden calls Faye Dunaway "television incarnate." Everyone praises this movie because of its "prescience" in predicting the downfall of television and American culture. By that logic, The Net should be immortalized because of its foreshadowing of identity theft on the interwebs.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on June 30, 2008, 11:19:50 AM
I finally got around to seeing Network last night. Dear lord, is Paddy Chayevsky a heavy-handed windbag. You know you're in trouble when not only is a character clearly only a symbol, but is actually called a symbol by another character -- like when William Holden calls Faye Dunaway "television incarnate." Everyone praises this movie because of its "prescience" in predicting the downfall of television and American culture. By that logic, The Net should be immortalized because of its foreshadowing of identity theft on the interwebs.

OH

MY

GOD



I think I'm going to go find a corner to cry in and rethink my own reality.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on June 30, 2008, 11:21:18 AM
I finally got around to seeing Network last night. Dear lord, is Paddy Chayevsky a heavy-handed windbag. You know you're in trouble when not only is a character clearly only a symbol, but is actually called a symbol by another character -- like when William Holden calls Faye Dunaway "television incarnate." Everyone praises this movie because of its "prescience" in predicting the downfall of television and American culture. By that logic, The Net should be immortalized because of its foreshadowing of identity theft on the interwebs.

Oh, man... that hurts.  That really hurts.  But I guess that's what happens when you see the movie long AFTER everything in it comes to pass.  Oddly, I was just watching this last night too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on June 30, 2008, 12:32:51 PM
Cars isn't just the worst Pixar film, it's worse than most animated movies of the last 10 years.  Shrek 3 was even a superior film.

cars is a wonderful film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: essrog on June 30, 2008, 12:52:27 PM
I finally got around to seeing Network last night. Dear lord, is Paddy Chayevsky a heavy-handed windbag. You know you're in trouble when not only is a character clearly only a symbol, but is actually called a symbol by another character -- like when William Holden calls Faye Dunaway "television incarnate." Everyone praises this movie because of its "prescience" in predicting the downfall of television and American culture. By that logic, The Net should be immortalized because of its foreshadowing of identity theft on the interwebs.

Oh, man... that hurts.  That really hurts.  But I guess that's what happens when you see the movie long AFTER everything in it comes to pass.  Oddly, I was just watching this last night too.

Well, that probably didn't help, but really, my gripe was with how the message was presented rather than the message itself. I'd like to think that if I saw the film as an adult in 1976 my reaction would be similar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kalbiqueen on June 30, 2008, 01:36:32 PM
I finally got around to seeing Network last night. Dear lord, is Paddy Chayevsky a heavy-handed windbag. You know you're in trouble when not only is a character clearly only a symbol, but is actually called a symbol by another character -- like when William Holden calls Faye Dunaway "television incarnate." Everyone praises this movie because of its "prescience" in predicting the downfall of television and American culture. By that logic, The Net should be immortalized because of its foreshadowing of identity theft on the interwebs.

I hated Network too.  Faye Dunaway gives me hives.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on June 30, 2008, 06:10:45 PM
I finally got around to seeing Network last night. Dear lord, is Paddy Chayevsky a heavy-handed windbag. You know you're in trouble when not only is a character clearly only a symbol, but is actually called a symbol by another character -- like when William Holden calls Faye Dunaway "television incarnate." Everyone praises this movie because of its "prescience" in predicting the downfall of television and American culture. By that logic, The Net should be immortalized because of its foreshadowing of identity theft on the interwebs.

That's hilarious.

I like it a lot more than you do but I agree it is heavy-handed and a touch overrated. I think it has the elements of a masterpiece but the final product is only good.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on June 30, 2008, 10:14:09 PM
Wall-E is not a very good movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on June 30, 2008, 10:16:54 PM
Wall-E is not a very good movie.

:D

(Not that I've seen it.  Just glad you're around.)

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 30, 2008, 11:58:14 PM
Wall-E is not a very good movie.

yr just pissed its getting more praise than last years pixar effort.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: andyg on July 01, 2008, 12:48:33 AM
Wall-E is not a very good movie.

Go intto the movie talk spoilers thread and say so! That thread needs some discussion!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on July 01, 2008, 01:36:39 AM
Basil's post is the first ray of hope that we can have a hilarious upset in the Filmspots' Best Animation category for the second year running.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 01, 2008, 09:32:59 AM
While we're out of step with the rest of humanity as far as animation is concerned, I do not like The Lion King.

I don't wish ill on the millions who do, but I happen to not like the film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on July 01, 2008, 11:02:17 AM
While we're out of step with the rest of humanity as far as animation is concerned, I do not like The Lion King.

I don't wish ill on the millions who do, but I happen to not like the film.
Contrary to popular belief, I don't wish ill on these people either. I do, however, also dislike The Lion King.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on July 01, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
While we're out of step with the rest of humanity as far as animation is concerned, I do not like The Lion King.

I don't wish ill on the millions who do, but I happen to not like the film.
Contrary to popular belief, I don't wish ill on these people either. I do, however, also dislike The Lion King.

I do not like it either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on July 01, 2008, 11:14:02 AM
While we're out of step with the rest of humanity as far as animation is concerned, I do not like The Lion King.

I don't wish ill on the millions who do, but I happen to not like the film.
Contrary to popular belief, I don't wish ill on these people either. I do, however, also dislike The Lion King.

I do not like it either.

State some reasons, please. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 01, 2008, 11:34:45 AM
While we're out of step with the rest of humanity as far as animation is concerned, I do not like The Lion King.

I don't wish ill on the millions who do, but I happen to not like the film.
Contrary to popular belief, I don't wish ill on these people either. I do, however, also dislike The Lion King.

I do not like it either.

State some reasons, please. 

Part of it is the vocal casting of James Earl Jones, especially having him say lines like, "I am your father."

I also think the high drama of the storyline (i.e. murdering the father in front of the cub) actively works against the tone of the Timon and Pumbaa scenes. Because the best way to deal with grief and to learn about responsibility is to fart a lot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 01, 2008, 11:49:05 AM
i have always really enjoyed it, but it has been about 5 years since i have seen it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on July 01, 2008, 01:35:38 PM
While we're out of step with the rest of humanity as far as animation is concerned, I do not like The Lion King.

I don't wish ill on the millions who do, but I happen to not like the film.
Contrary to popular belief, I don't wish ill on these people either. I do, however, also dislike The Lion King.

I do not like it either.

State some reasons, please. 

I agree with RT, but it felt to me,too, like Disney was trying to be profound (and therefore kinda preachy) with the whole circle of life thing, a concept that to me seems empty and sentimental and ultimately comfortless and cheap. (Plus, I really loathe that song - so cheesy and earnest.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on July 01, 2008, 04:53:02 PM
Inspired by that "best current directors" thread, those Bourne films...really not all that.

I enjoyed them, probably would go to see the fourth if they make it, but Paul Greengrass is not God bought down to earth and put in charge of a film crew. Why everyone goes along with this I don't know. (I know Doug Liman did Identity).
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 01, 2008, 04:54:38 PM
Chihuahua is going to be the cinematic achievement of the decade!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 01, 2008, 05:01:43 PM
Inspired by that "best current directors" thread, those Bourne films...really not all that.

I enjoyed them, probably would go to see the fourth if they make it, but Paul Greengrass is not God bought down to earth and put in charge of a film crew. Why everyone goes along with this I don't know. (I know Doug Liman did Identity).

Amen
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on July 01, 2008, 05:03:03 PM
He's not a god, but he's a Hercules.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 01, 2008, 05:04:07 PM
Inspired by that "best current directors" thread, those Bourne films...really not all that.

I enjoyed them, probably would go to see the fourth if they make it, but Paul Greengrass is not God bought down to earth and put in charge of a film crew. Why everyone goes along with this I don't know. (I know Doug Liman did Identity).

I agree that there isn't much special about the first one. In fact I was so underwhelmed, I never bothered with the second installment. Ultimatum on the other hand is another story. Along with Raiders of the Lost Ark, it is my favourite action/adventure movie ever.

Greengrass certainly isn't the second coming, but Bloody Sunday, United 93, and Bourne 3 are all terrific films. You  have to give him his due.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 01, 2008, 05:05:37 PM
I think Bloody Sunday & United 93 are far better films than any of the Bourne films.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on July 01, 2008, 11:24:05 PM
Chihuahua is going to be the cinematic achievement of the decade!

Why would that be an unpopular opinion? And who said it was a matter of opinion at all? Beverly Hills Cihuahua is clearly the cinematic achievement of the decade. It's plain fact. The math is all there too:

50% Warrior + 50% Lover = 100% Chihuahua
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: grumm on July 02, 2008, 01:19:21 PM
I enjoyed the 3rd Pirates movie. Much more than the 2nd especially
I love The Life Aquatic
I think Annie Hall is overrated
I'm overall very disappointed with all of the X-Men and Spiderman movies
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 02, 2008, 01:27:44 PM
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

I'm not a big Keira fan, but most ash trays are better actresses than ScarJo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on July 02, 2008, 01:32:46 PM
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

I'm not a big Keira fan, but most ash trays are better actresses than ScarJo.

I have to agree.  ScarJo was so bad in The Other Boleyn Girl that I have crossed her off by list forever.  Her performance was painful to watch.  She had no idea who she was or why she was in that film.  Maybe her pout and deer-caught-in-the-headlights look work for some parts, but oh my, not in that part. Portman was not much better, but by comparison she profited.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 02, 2008, 01:38:32 PM
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

I'm not a big Keira fan, but most ash trays are better actresses than ScarJo.

I don't like Kiera or Natalie, but I do like ScarJo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on July 02, 2008, 01:40:10 PM
So where do we rank Sienna Miller?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 02, 2008, 01:43:46 PM
So where do we rank Sienna Miller?

Ive only seen her in Interview, which felt like it was made for her. Her performance was excellent in that, but I haven't seen anything to compare it too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on July 02, 2008, 01:51:07 PM
I've only seen her in small parts (Stardust, Layer Cake, Alfie) but I do find it interesting that she seems willing to take on roles in more Indie-spirited films (Factory Girl, Interview) than any of the other three actresses. That being said, Kermode hated everything about her performance in The Edge of Love whereas he finally let Knightley off the hook, so I'm just looking for more insight.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on July 02, 2008, 02:00:20 PM
So many emotions as a result of this.

I enjoyed the 3rd Pirates movie. Much more than the 2nd especially
I love The Life Aquatic
I think Annie Hall is overrated
I'm overall very disappointed with all of the X-Men and Spiderman movies
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

I might say that Pirates 3 is better than 2, but only because I stopped caring about the franchise halfway through it.  It didn't upset me the way that Matrix 3 did     If 2 and 3 had been made into one 2.5 hour movie, it might have been a worthy sequel to 1.

I love Life Aquatic as well and forgot that that's an unpopular opinion.

I may like other films more than Annie Hall but I think it's pretty appropriately rated. 

I can understand being disappointed with X-Men and Spider-man, as long as you can agree that part 2 of each are pretty good.

I really don't know what happened to Scarlett after Lost in Translation and Portman has only made good on the promise of Leon in Closer (I think her voice betrays her).  So I'd say Keira's doing alright for herself... relatively speaking.  When she's good, she may not be the best but she is good.  But when she's bad, she's pretty awful.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: grumm on July 02, 2008, 02:03:34 PM
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

I'm not a big Keira fan, but most ash trays are better actresses than ScarJo.

I have to agree.  ScarJo was so bad in The Other Boleyn Girl that I have crossed her off by list forever.  Her performance was painful to watch.  She had no idea who she was or why she was in that film.  Maybe her pout and deer-caught-in-the-headlights look work for some parts, but oh my, not in that part. Portman was not much better, but by comparison she profited.

I completely agree. Both of those performances were quite painful. What happened to the ScarJo I loved in Lost in Translation?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: grumm on July 02, 2008, 02:05:14 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 02, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.

I know she's pretty, but the way she talks out of the side of her mouth in every.single.movie. bugs the hell out of me. Love Actually is one of my favorite movies, but she almost ruins it for me every time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on July 02, 2008, 02:22:31 PM
The way I see it Keira Knightley is a more consistent and proven actress, but I think the best Natalie Portman (Closer) is far better than the best Keira Knightley (Pride and Prejudice).

Also Natalie Portman is way hotter.

I wouldn't say I liked Pirates 3 more than 2, but I will say I like them both. Though I do wish they had made one sequel rather than two.

I think The Life Aquatic is much better than The Royal Tennenbaums.

And yes, all the X-Men and Spider-man movies were a disappointment.

I'd also like to add that I thought Superman Returns, while severely flawed, was damn good entertainment and easily better thann Spider-man 3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: grumm on July 02, 2008, 02:27:29 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.

I know she's pretty, but the way she talks out of the side of her mouth in every.single.movie. bugs the hell out of me. Love Actually is one of my favorite movies, but she almost ruins it for me every time.

I guess I've always found that to be part of the attraction. But I can understand that it would be distracting. Lucky for you, she's not in Love, Actually very much. Though her scenes are among my favorites in the movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 02, 2008, 03:54:23 PM
I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

I'm not a big Keira fan, but most ash trays are better actresses than ScarJo.

While all of them turn my head, none of them have created performances that do so.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on July 02, 2008, 04:16:29 PM

I think Keira Knightley is a better actress than Scarlett Johansson or Natalie Portman

BLASPHEMY!!!!!

Well, when has Scarlett Johansson been any good since Girl with a Pearl Earring?

Keira is alright but her choices are uneven. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 02, 2008, 04:19:02 PM
Knightley is the best of the bunch - Portman's forehead is big enough to sell as advertising space.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on July 02, 2008, 04:22:57 PM
I've only seen her in small parts (Stardust, Layer Cake, Alfie) but I do find it interesting that she seems willing to take on roles in more Indie-spirited films (Factory Girl, Interview) than any of the other three actresses. That being said, Kermode hated everything about her performance in The Edge of Love whereas he finally let Knightley off the hook, so I'm just looking for more insight.

Yeah, Kermode is refusing to call her IKEA now based on her performance in The Edge of Love. Have you seen it, Tequila? What did you think? I'm unwilling to give up my Keira loathing, but I often concur with Kermode's opinions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 02, 2008, 04:35:23 PM
4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days is not a masterpiece and has some serious flaws.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on July 02, 2008, 04:49:00 PM
Yeah, Kermode is refusing to call her IKEA now based on her performance in The Edge of Love. Have you seen it, Tequila? What did you think? I'm unwilling to give up my Keira loathing, but I often concur with Kermode's opinions.
The only thing I've seen from that film is a clip of Keira doing her own singing and that actually sounded quite decent.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on July 02, 2008, 04:51:09 PM
Saw it today. I'll be sticking with IKEA Knightley for now!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on July 02, 2008, 05:12:16 PM
Saw it today. I'll be sticking with IKEA Knightley for now!

Oh, good.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on July 02, 2008, 05:52:49 PM
50% Warrior + 50% Lover = 100% Chihuahua

I wouldn't be surprised in the same way that Snakes + Planes = horror, Sunny Location + Cute Dog = kids film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 02, 2008, 06:32:19 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.

I think crushes might account for ScarJo's popularity. That and she is quite good at picking scripts.

Some folks wonder what happened to her post L in T. This doesn't make much sense to me because the stars of that film are Bill Murray and Sophia Coppola. ScarJo's big performance was staring out the window while hip music was playing. She is definitely dispensable. Off the top of my head Thora Birch, Mia Kirshner (maybe a little too old), or even Sarah Polley could have done it better.     
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: grumm on July 02, 2008, 07:04:06 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.

I think crushes might account for ScarJo's popularity.

That and she is quite good at picking scripts.

Some folks wonder what happened to her post L in T. This doesn't make much sense to me because the stars of that film are Bill Murray and Sophia Coppola. ScarJo's big performance was staring out the window while hip music was playing. She is definitely dispensable. Off the top of my head Thora Birch, Mia Kirshner (maybe a little too old), or even Sarah Polley could have done it better.     

Interesting thoughts. I guess you're right. But I definitely felt a connection with her, and I thought her dialog came across as very sincere and believable, while in other films like Match Point, Other Boleyn Girl, etc. it just sounds more like she's acting. Sarah Polley would've been a good choice. Mia Kirshner an interesting choice that I would've never thought of.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 02, 2008, 07:29:00 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.

I think crushes might account for ScarJo's popularity.

That and she is quite good at picking scripts.

Some folks wonder what happened to her post L in T. This doesn't make much sense to me because the stars of that film are Bill Murray and Sophia Coppola. ScarJo's big performance was staring out the window while hip music was playing. She is definitely dispensable. Off the top of my head Thora Birch, Mia Kirshner (maybe a little too old), or even Sarah Polley could have done it better.     

Interesting thoughts. I guess you're right. But I definitely felt a connection with her, and I thought her dialog came across as very sincere and believable, while in other films like Match Point, Other Boleyn Girl, etc. it just sounds more like she's acting. Sarah Polley would've been a good choice. Mia Kirshner an interesting choice that I would've never thought of.

I think her post Translation resume is so underwhelming because in those films you mentioned, she is asked to do so much more.

Her reputation was established in Ghost World, where Thora did all the heavy lifting, and LIT where she looked great and she benefited from her director and co-star being in in top form. But since then she has been asked to do so much more and I don't think she can deliver.

Now I don't blame the Black Dahlia on her, but that part should have been in her wheelhouse. She looks like a classic Hollywood beauty, but in what should have been a vehicle for her she is as wooden as she is in everything else.   

I haven't seen Boleyn, but I agree she is not strong in Match Point.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 02, 2008, 08:16:32 PM
My love for Keira's acting ability may be a bit blind as I have an enormous crush on her and her accent.

I think crushes might account for ScarJo's popularity.

That and she is quite good at picking scripts.

Some folks wonder what happened to her post L in T. This doesn't make much sense to me because the stars of that film are Bill Murray and Sophia Coppola. ScarJo's big performance was staring out the window while hip music was playing. She is definitely dispensable. Off the top of my head Thora Birch, Mia Kirshner (maybe a little too old), or even Sarah Polley could have done it better.    

  I thought Anna Faris blew her off the screen whenever they were on together.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: philip918 on July 03, 2008, 12:44:36 AM
S. Coppola is great at capturing looks, or a look, and milking emotional resonance out of it.  ScarJo in Lost in Translation and especially Kirsten Dunst in Marie Antoinette are great examples.  I can't stand Dunst in almost anything, but I thought she had the right look for the mood of MA.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: PeaceLily on July 03, 2008, 03:20:30 PM
It's a few pages back now, but I'd like to third/fourth/whatever the "Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun" argument.  To be honest, I think part of it for me was that I really don't have a lot of love for zombie films at all, and while SotD was obviously a comedy first and a zombie film second (a zom-rom-com, in fact), it does ultimately fall into that genre.  If there had been less focus on the blank-eyed, flesh tearing gore gags, which got old for me very, very quickly, and more of the characters together exchanging Wright and Pegg's brilliant dialogue, then I probably would have liked it a lot more.  On the other hand I love buddy cop films, so maybe that particular UO comes down to the genres more than the films.

Anyway.

Also, Se7en is David Fincher's best film.  Not sure how unpopular that is, but it definitely doesn't seem to be the general consensus.  Similarly I think Reservoir Dogs is by far Tarantino's best, though I haven't seen Jackie Brown.

The Usual Suspects...is kind of overrated.  If I hadn't known that there was a Big Twist coming at the end it might have been better, because as it was I spent the entire film trying to guess which character was going to turn out to be Keyser Soze, and I narrowed it down to [insert spoiler here] largely because that was the only character that would be as much of a shock as I'd always heard the ending was.  Definitely a case where knowing as little as possible about the film going in is a plus.  But yeah, overrated.  Beyond that ending, it's kind of an average heist movie with some above-average performances.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 03, 2008, 03:29:07 PM

Anyway.

Also, Se7en is David Fincher's best film.  Not sure how unpopular that is, but it definitely doesn't seem to be the general consensus.  Similarly I think Reservoir Dogs is by far Tarantino's best, though I haven't seen Jackie Brown.



I would say Se7en is Fincher's second best. Fight Club is my second favorite movie of all time, so it's hard to beat for me.

Also, Jackie Brown is my favorite QT movie, followed by Reservoir Dogs, so you aren't alone there.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 03, 2008, 05:09:44 PM
The Usual Suspects...is kind of overrated.  If I hadn't known that there was a Big Twist coming at the end it might have been better, because as it was I spent the entire film trying to guess which character was going to turn out to be Keyser Soze, and I narrowed it down to [insert spoiler here] largely because that was the only character that would be as much of a shock as I'd always heard the ending was.  Definitely a case where knowing as little as possible about the film going in is a plus.  But yeah, overrated.  Beyond that ending, it's kind of an average heist movie with some above-average performances.

I think it's definitely overrated. I think for people who were the right age when it came out, it had a real impact. But I caught up with it on video a few years later and didn't get the appeal.

The image of the coffee cup hitting the floor has not aged well; really corny.   
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on July 03, 2008, 06:48:52 PM
TUS has not stood up to repeated viewings with me.

First time, sure, it was great, but it really is quite an empty film. It has nothing to say, and once you've been along for the ride once, you've seen all there is.

To be fair, that first time, it's a pretty good ride.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: enzobot24 on July 03, 2008, 08:09:03 PM
Also, Se7en is David Fincher's best film.  Not sure how unpopular that is, but it definitely doesn't seem to be the general consensus.

Oh, I totally agree. Fight Club had great atmosphere but I really think Fincher was trying to prove himself after the disastrous Alien3. Se7en was fantastic and layered without pretentiousness.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 03, 2008, 08:10:51 PM
Se7en is for sure his best
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 03, 2008, 11:23:21 PM
Also, Jackie Brown is my favorite QT movie, followed by Reservoir Dogs, so you aren't alone there.  ;)

HIGH FIVE! I'm the only person I know that loves that movie. When people complain about Tarantino's writing, I point them there since it's a really great adaptation of Elmore Leonard's Rum Punch. Plus Pam Grier is foxy as hell.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 04, 2008, 02:20:44 AM
4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days is not a masterpiece and has some serious flaws.

duh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 04, 2008, 12:01:21 PM
Also, Jackie Brown is my favorite QT movie, followed by Reservoir Dogs, so you aren't alone there.  ;)

HIGH FIVE! I'm the only person I know that loves that movie. When people complain about Tarantino's writing, I point them there since it's a really great adaptation of Elmore Leonard's Rum Punch. Plus Pam Grier is foxy as hell.

I desperately need to re-visit it, but I remember knowing Robert Forster's performance would be one of the best things I would ever see on screen. Excellent underrated movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 05, 2008, 08:08:05 PM
Just Friends is a good movie. Furthermore I would have been pleased to see Anna Faris or Julie Hagerty nominated (in the supporting category) for it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on July 05, 2008, 10:40:21 PM
Just Friends is a good movie. Furthermore I would have been pleased to see Anna Faris or Julie Hagerty nominated (in the supporting category) for it.

Oh my god, I freaking love this movie.  It's a favorite of my brothers and I, I think it's so much fun.  Anna Faris is amazing, and I'm so there to see House Bunny solely because of her. But Just Friends is really a ton of (crappy) fun, just don't expect anything from it, and you'll get some nice moment. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kalbiqueen on July 08, 2008, 09:50:47 PM
One of my favorite movies is "Stay".  That's the one with Ewan MacGregor and Ryan Gosling that flopped a couple years ago.  I enjoyed it immensely and want to see it again.  Oh, and I love Ryan Gosling and think he's brilliant.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on July 08, 2008, 09:55:29 PM
One of my favorite movies is "Stay".  That's the one with Ewan MacGregor and Ryan Gosling that flopped a couple years ago.  I enjoyed it immensely and want to see it again.  Oh, and I love Ryan Gosling and think he's brilliant.

I have recorded this. You're saying I should watch it, then?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 08, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
One of my favorite movies is "Stay".  That's the one with Ewan MacGregor and Ryan Gosling that flopped a couple years ago.  I enjoyed it immensely and want to see it again.  Oh, and I love Ryan Gosling and think he's brilliant.

I have recorded this. You're saying I should watch it, then?

Visually its awesome and is Gosling - other than that... eh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 09, 2008, 08:50:50 PM
MASH (1970, Altman) sucks.

Episodic sex comedy that boomers pass off as subversive.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 09, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
MASH sucks.

Episodic sex comedy that boomers pass off as subversive.

  It has not aged well, especially the later seasons, but at the time - it was groundbreaking TV...there were episodes that dealt with subject matter that was normally taboo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 09, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
MASH sucks.

Episodic sex comedy that boomers pass off as subversive.

  It has not aged well, especially the later seasons, but at the time - it was groundbreaking TV...there were episodes that dealt with subject matter that was normally taboo.

I meant the Altman movie. I don't know the show well enough to judge.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 09, 2008, 10:02:53 PM
MASH sucks.

Episodic sex comedy that boomers pass off as subversive.

  It has not aged well, especially the later seasons, but at the time - it was groundbreaking TV...there were episodes that dealt with subject matter that was normally taboo.

I meant the Altman movie. I don't know the show well enough to judge.

  Ah - I should have figured that out...this being a film thread and all...lol...
  I saw the film so long ago - I don't even have an opinion. (I saw it in the theater - drive-in to be exact)...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kalbiqueen on July 09, 2008, 11:40:48 PM
Visually its awesome and is Gosling - other than that... eh.

Hence the placement in the "unpopular" thread.  ;)

I'd totally watch it, Junior.  It's funny; we saw this and "Pan's Labyrinth" the same week.  I hated Labyrinth but loved Stay, but my husband was the opposite.  We stayed up late three nights in a row talking about these two movies.  If nothing else, it's a good way to fire up a debate with your significant other.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on July 10, 2008, 02:47:55 AM
MASH sucks.

Episodic sex comedy that boomers pass off as subversive.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on July 10, 2008, 10:24:06 AM


 Anna Faris is amazing, and I'm so there to see House Bunny solely because of her. 

You mean you like the film because you fancy Anna Faris?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on July 10, 2008, 04:13:31 PM


 Anna Faris is amazing, and I'm so there to see House Bunny solely because of her. 

You mean you like the film because you fancy Anna Faris?

I mean I'll give any movie a shot if Anna Faris is involved.  And I think she directed this one as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 11, 2008, 08:30:13 AM
MASH (1970, Altman) sucks.
I agree. And that's saying something because MASH the TV show is my favorite show.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on July 11, 2008, 08:47:43 AM
MASH sucks.

Episodic sex comedy that boomers pass off as subversive.

Thank you!

So glad I'm not the only one.  I still don't get why Catch-22 lost the 1970 battle of the war comedies based on cult novels.  The TV show is a much greater accomplishment than the film.

And while we're on Altman, I think that Nashville - while a good film - has not aged particularly well and has been overshadowed by any number of ensemble films made since that were inspired by it.  If I was around in 1975 and saw it then, I would be one of those people that worships it.  But I think that even Short Cuts is a better film than Nashville.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 11, 2008, 12:17:24 PM
So glad I'm not the only one.  I still don't get why Catch-22 lost the 1970 battle of the war comedies based on cult novels.  The TV show is a much greater accomplishment than the film.

And while we're on Altman, I think that Nashville - while a good film - has not aged particularly well and has been overshadowed by any number of ensemble films made since that were inspired by it.  If I was around in 1975 and saw it then, I would be one of those people that worships it.  But I think that even Short Cuts is a better film than Nashville.

Nashville was a huge disappointment for me. Not just because of a its reputation, but its themes and subjects are right up my alley: music, politics, the 70s. What was with the car crash at the airport? I was cringing. 

I'm going to go a step further and hope the ceiling doesn't collapse over me head. I don't like Altman very much in general, and thinking back to Filmspotting #178, I would nominate him as the most overrated filmmaker in the history of cinema.

MASH is a dud, Nashville and Short Cuts are OKish, and the Player was completely boring other than the great opening and closing sequences. There I've said it.   
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on July 11, 2008, 12:20:12 PM
Time to add McCabe and Mrs. Miller to your queue.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 11, 2008, 01:05:13 PM
Time to add McCabe and Mrs. Miller to your queue.

pixote

Don't forget about The Long Goodbye...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 11, 2008, 01:23:28 PM
and Popeye  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 11, 2008, 01:40:58 PM
Time to add McCabe and Mrs. Miller to your queue.

pixote

Ugh. I was so bored by that movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on July 11, 2008, 01:42:28 PM
Time to add McCabe and Mrs. Miller to your queue.

Ugh. I was so bored by that movie.

Matt and I seem to have pretty similar tastes, though, so I will hold out hope.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 11, 2008, 01:47:44 PM
Time to add McCabe and Mrs. Miller to your queue.

Ugh. I was so bored by that movie.

Matt and I seem to have pretty similar tastes, though, so I will hold out hope.

pixote

I did rent it once but it was a ratty old VHS copy and when everyone is talking at the same time you need something better. I'll give it another shot. At the very least I'll enjoy the Leonard Cohen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 11, 2008, 01:49:26 PM
Time to add McCabe and Mrs. Miller to your queue.

Ugh. I was so bored by that movie.

Matt and I seem to have pretty similar tastes, though, so I will hold out hope.

pixote

I did rent it once but it was a ratty old VHS copy and when everyone is talking at the same time you need something better. I'll give it another shot. At the very least I'll enjoy the Leonard Cohen.

Yeah it's definitely in need of a nice Criterion release. In HD.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kalbiqueen on July 11, 2008, 07:53:15 PM
Nashville was a huge disappointment for me. Not just because of a its reputation, but its themes and subjects are right up my alley: music, politics, the 70s. What was with the car crash at the airport? I was cringing. 

I'm going to go a step further and hope the ceiling doesn't collapse over me head. I don't like Altman very much in general, and thinking back to Filmspotting #178, I would nominate him as the most overrated filmmaker in the history of cinema.
 

I don't usually like Altman either.  That's why Nashville was such a pleasant surprise for me. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: urssa on July 12, 2008, 04:39:28 AM

Stanley Kubrick is just George Lucas with a library card.


hahahahahahaha, I laughed out loud when I read this... of course I don't agree but still...good one

Keep the tread going y'all, it's so much fun.
Here goes:

1. Johnny Depp is annoying as hell.
2. So is Natalie Portman.
3. Shawshank redemption is sooooo pretentious.
4. James Bond? Boring. (possible exception: Casino Royale)
5. Lord of The Rings and Star Wars films are camp, targeted at 12year-olds with too much time and too little friends.
6. Roberto Benigni should be making movies for Lifetime channel.
7. Out of Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino and Dustin Hoffman, the latter is by far the best actor.
8. Julianne Moore is the hottest lady in Hollywood. Hottest guy? Ryan Gosling.
9. A summer movie could (just maybe) be about humans for a change, no freaking superheroes, monsters, robots and talking animals I beg you! (I'll still be rushing out to see The Dark Knight though)
10. I kinda miss Gwyneth Paltrow.

oh and
11. Snakes On The Plane was sooo much fun in the theatre.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on July 12, 2008, 10:54:28 AM

I'm going to go a step further and hope the ceiling doesn't collapse over me head. I don't like Altman very much in general, and thinking back to Filmspotting #178, I would nominate him as the most overrated filmmaker in the history of cinema.
 

i also tend to be not impressed with Altman, but McCabe really snuck up on me.  i was rather ho-hum for the first third or so and it just exploded into some brilliance (no idea if it was my mood, or how it would hold up on experiencing it now), but it is my favorite Altman (though i've not done a few key works).
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 12, 2008, 10:56:42 AM

7. Out of Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino and Dustin Hoffman, the latter is by far the best actor.


Latter means first right...?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on July 12, 2008, 11:34:35 AM

5. Lord of The Rings and Star Wars films are camp, targeted at 12year-olds with too much time and too little friends.

hehehe
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 13, 2008, 09:34:52 AM


1. Johnny Depp is annoying as hell.

I agree 100%. His crazy guy act is just annoying. I have friends who think he's one of the greatest actors ever. That being said I saw a couple of clips of Ed Wood the other day and he doesn't look that bad. I may give that film a shot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on July 13, 2008, 09:59:03 AM
Wall-E is okay but not a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on July 13, 2008, 10:35:32 AM
Wall-E is okay but not a masterpiece.

though i have yet to experience Wall•E (probably this thursday), i must say i tingle a bit each time i read a lackluster review.  thanks also to Basil!

roner, ages ago (last summer) you were talking about coming into chicago for a day trip, any chance of that still?  movies in grant park is pretty cool...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 13, 2008, 11:28:25 AM
Wall-E is okay but not a masterpiece.

I'd say it was better than OK, but you're right that it isn't the second coming. Once the story shifts from Earth to outer space I was far less impressed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: urssa on July 13, 2008, 12:58:27 PM


1. Johnny Depp is annoying as hell.

I agree 100%. His crazy guy act is just annoying. I have friends who think he's one of the greatest actors ever. That being said I saw a couple of clips of Ed Wood the other day and he doesn't look that bad. I may give that film a shot.

Do that, it's quite a good movie actually. It has Sarah Jessica Parker in it, whom I unpopularly dislike too though :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 13, 2008, 02:20:44 PM
It has Sarah Jessica Parker in it, whom I unpopularly dislike too though :/

Even though this is an unpopular opinion, it is a correct one. She's not very good.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 13, 2008, 02:24:17 PM


1. Johnny Depp is annoying as hell.

I agree 100%. His crazy guy act is just annoying. I have friends who think he's one of the greatest actors ever. That being said I saw a couple of clips of Ed Wood the other day and he doesn't look that bad. I may give that film a shot.

it's depp's best performance & burton's best film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 13, 2008, 02:38:03 PM
It has Sarah Jessica Parker in it, whom I unpopularly dislike too though :/

Even this is an unpopular opinion, it is a correct one. She's not very good.

She was great in Footloose. But who wasn't?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wilson on July 13, 2008, 02:54:17 PM
I'd say liking SJP was an unpopular opinon, other than Carrie she's completely awful at everything and she's even quite annoying as Carrie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 13, 2008, 03:04:52 PM
Footloose is a horrible movie
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 13, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
Footloose is a horrible movie

I haven't seen it since I was little when my sister owned it on beta, but I expect you're right. Heck of a soundtrack though.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on July 13, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
Footloose is a horrible movie

I saw it for the first time at a festival last year early in the morning. Lots of tired people just sitting around, until the ending, where we all jumped up and danced to that song.
But before that (other than the tractor scene and the dance montages) it just went on and on and on.

Not horrible, but boring as hell.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on July 13, 2008, 05:51:54 PM
I'd say liking SJP was an unpopular opinon, other than Carrie she's completely awful at everything and she's even quite annoying as Carrie.

And she looks like a foot
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on July 13, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
She's actually very nice and was quite good in LA Story
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 13, 2008, 07:16:30 PM
She's actually very nice and was quite good in LA Story

Yeah she was funny in that. And from her appearances on Conan she does seem quite nice. I've changed my mind ---- I love her!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roner on July 13, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
Wall-E is okay but not a masterpiece.

though i have yet to experience Wall•E (probably this thursday), i must say i tingle a bit each time i read a lackluster review.  thanks also to Basil!

roner, ages ago (last summer) you were talking about coming into chicago for a day trip, any chance of that still?  movies in grant park is pretty cool...

I'll be interested in hearing your take on Wall-E after you've seen it.  Most people saw it either at the start or during the big hype for the movie.  It'll be interesting to hear from someone who listened to all the hype then saw the flick. 

As far as a trip into the city, yeah I'd still be interested depending on schedule and what movie is playing. 


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on July 13, 2008, 11:35:00 PM
Wall-E is okay but not a masterpiece.

though i have yet to experience Wall•E (probably this thursday), i must say i tingle a bit each time i read a lackluster review.  thanks also to Basil!

roner, ages ago (last summer) you were talking about coming into chicago for a day trip, any chance of that still?  movies in grant park is pretty cool...

I'll be interested in hearing your take on Wall-E after you've seen it.  Most people saw it either at the start or during the big hype for the movie.  It'll be interesting to hear from someone who listened to all the hype then saw the flick. 

As far as a trip into the city, yeah I'd still be interested depending on schedule and what movie is playing. 


the grant park films (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3958.0) are tuesday nights, but there is usually something worthwhile playing (music box, siskel, doc, etc.).  i haven't been to many movies lately, too busy and tight budget, an excuse to get out is always good.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 14, 2008, 02:56:49 PM
Baby Mama is better than the Wedding Crashers and the 40 Year Old Virgin.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 14, 2008, 03:47:09 PM
Baby Mama is better than the Wedding Crashers and the 40 Year Old Virgin.

I agree with the Wedding Crashers part, but I still like 40 Year Old Virgin better. Maybe if Baby Mama had given Romany Malco more to do, I'd give it the edge.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 14, 2008, 04:18:45 PM
Baby Mama is better than the Wedding Crashers and the 40 Year Old Virgin.

I agree with the Wedding Crashers part, but I still like 40 Year Old Virgin better. Maybe if Baby Mama had given Romany Malco more to do, I'd give it the edge.

I love Steve Carell but the last hour of Virgin is pretty bad. What is with the scene with the chick in the tub?

Wedding Crashers was a huge let down. Great cast but just not all that funny. Never understood the critical reaction.

Maybe it's a case of low expectations combined with my affection for the cast but Baby Mama hit the spot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 14, 2008, 09:20:22 PM
I haven't seen Baby Mama, but i don't think Wedding Crashers or 40 Year Old Virgin are very good movies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on July 14, 2008, 09:36:02 PM
I haven't seen Baby Mama, but i don't think Wedding Crashers or 40 Year Old Virgin are very good movies.

QFL.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on July 14, 2008, 09:58:30 PM
I haven't seen Baby Mama, but i don't think Wedding Crashers or 40 Year Old Virgin are very good movies.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 14, 2008, 10:44:42 PM
I'm not predicting any of you will enjoy Baby Mama as much as I did, but I am beginning to understand Wedding Crasher and Virgin dislike isn't as unpopular as I thought it was. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on July 14, 2008, 11:05:20 PM
I don't think Wedding Crashers and The 40-Year-Old Virgin belong in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on July 15, 2008, 09:01:03 PM
Batman Begins is still a pretty awful movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 15, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
Batman Begins is still a pretty awful movie.

i can't wait till you move out here so we can have a good old fashion fist fight.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on July 15, 2008, 09:20:31 PM
Batman Begins is still a pretty awful movie.

i can't wait till you move out here so we can have a good old fashion fist fight.  ;)

It's on! I'm not ascared of you!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 15, 2008, 09:22:26 PM
you shouldn't be. you really shouldn't.  :-\
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 16, 2008, 12:42:07 AM
Alien: Resurrection is not bad, just flawed. If they had better creature design for the final monster, I think people would have liked it better. As it stands, the final monster is just too goofy looking to be menacing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 16, 2008, 09:05:14 AM
I'd say liking SJP was an unpopular opinon, other than Carrie she's completely awful at everything and she's even quite annoying as Carrie.

And she looks like a foot

I've always considered her face to be a potato.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on July 16, 2008, 09:48:59 AM
I'd say liking SJP was an unpopular opinon, other than Carrie she's completely awful at everything and she's even quite annoying as Carrie.

And she looks like a foot

I've always considered her face to be a potato.

Stop, please.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 16, 2008, 12:22:38 PM
Batman Begins is still a pretty awful movie.

  I agree but probably for different reasons - I think Nolan's handling of the action scenes is bad...I don't care for the editing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 16, 2008, 12:23:50 PM
You guys prefer the Tim Burton Batman films?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on July 16, 2008, 12:24:22 PM
Batman Begins is still a pretty awful movie.

  I agree but probably for different reasons - I think Nolan's handling of the action scenes is bad...I don't care for the editing.

That's definitely part of it. I didn't care much for the screenplay or performances, either, actually. Except Tom Wilkinson.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 16, 2008, 12:32:25 PM
You guys prefer the Tim Burton Batman films?

  I don't think it's a choice of one versus the other...I prefer the comics...I don't need an origin film...I know Batman, just get into his psyche and show me how someone committed to justice can be so violent and malevolent and so comfortable with it. I am over the tortured soul of billionaire Bruce Wayne - show me how Batman bleeds into his life and how he rationalizes it because for him to have made it into what it is...he is definitely at ease with his alter ego.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on July 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
You guys prefer the Tim Burton Batman films?

Haven't seen them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on July 16, 2008, 12:40:56 PM
You guys prefer the Tim Burton Batman films?

I do.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 16, 2008, 12:58:05 PM
I was just wondering because a lot of the Batman Begins critics I know remember Nicholson and DeVito fondly. With the exception of sdedalus that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on July 16, 2008, 01:00:30 PM
Well, DeVito not so fondly.  Nicholson, Palance and Pfeiffer, for sure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on July 16, 2008, 01:15:58 PM
Baby Mama is better than the Wedding Crashers and the 40 Year Old Virgin.

I agree with the Wedding Crashers part, but I still like 40 Year Old Virgin better. Maybe if Baby Mama had given Romany Malco more to do, I'd give it the edge.

I agree with this. 

40 Year Old Virgin > Baby Mama > Wedding Crashers

I'm not sure where to put Knocked Up in there, but I'm thinking between Baby Mama and Wedding Crashers.  The funny thing is, I don't think Baby Mama is that good of a film at all, but Tina Fey is so perfect it realyl carries the film for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 16, 2008, 01:33:57 PM
Knocked Up > 40 Year Old Virgin > Wedding Crashers > Baby Mama

Tina Fey was great, but Greg Kinnear was so awkward, and the movie would have been funnier without the big plot twist.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Valentine McKee on July 16, 2008, 03:19:02 PM
Napoleon Dynamite is the prime example of quirkiness just NOT BEING ENOUGH to justify making a film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on July 16, 2008, 03:46:28 PM
I'll see your Napoleon Dynamite and raise you a Juno.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 16, 2008, 03:47:46 PM
I'll see your Napoleon Dynamite and raise you a Juno.

Snap!

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 16, 2008, 05:18:02 PM
Alien3 is a good film! :o
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on July 16, 2008, 05:22:41 PM
Alien3 is a good film! :o

Check it. (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3408.msg101237#msg101237)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 16, 2008, 06:19:42 PM
I cannot believe this thread is approaching 50 pages.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on July 16, 2008, 06:21:29 PM
I cannot believe this thread is approaching 50 pages.

That opinion is not unpopular, sir.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 1SO on July 18, 2008, 04:35:27 PM
I posted about The Fall's Catinca Untaru when I first saw the film, but after listening to Filmspotting I have to say it's a most unpopular opinion.

That little girl was T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E.  She's 'natural' to the extreme fault of the entire film.  I saw this digitally projected at L.A. classy Landmark Theater, and I sometimes couldn't even understand what she was saying between her accent and her mumbly responses.  It constantly looked like she was reaching for something to say.  This isn't a performance, it's bad improv and Tarsem often let takes go on longer than necessary while Untaru could not think of anything else.  I blame Tarsem for exploiting the amateurishness of the child in such a manner.  And I blame Filmspotting for hailing this non-acting as brilliant.

...but that's just my unpopular opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 18, 2008, 04:53:02 PM
I posted about The Fall's Catinca Untaru when I first saw the film, but after listening to Filmspotting I have to say it's a most unpopular opinion.

That little girl was T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E.  She's 'natural' to the extreme fault of the entire film.  I saw this digitally projected at L.A. classy Landmark Theater, and I sometimes couldn't even understand what she was saying between her accent and her mumbly responses.  It constantly looked like she was reaching for something to say.  This isn't a performance, it's bad improv and Tarsem often let takes go on longer than necessary while Untaru could not think of anything else.  I blame Tarsem for exploiting the amateurishness of the child in such a manner.  And I blame Filmspotting for hailing this non-acting as brilliant.

...but that's just my unpopular opinion.


can;t remember where but I expressed pretty much the same opinion - and yeah, i think we're in the minority.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 1SO on July 18, 2008, 05:00:36 PM
The problem at the heart of it all is the lead girl, who is not only a really bad actor, but it's often difficult to understand what she is saying.  Many scenes between her and the male lead are completely unfocused, and repeat lines between blankets of dead space.  I think they were improvising, and it was a deadly decision.

Too much reliance on the exploitation of the little girls speech paterns for cutesy moments with very little spent on actual attempts to engage with the audience.

From the non-spoiler Thread on The Fall.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: nougatmachine on July 19, 2008, 02:53:27 AM
The Dark Night was good, but Batman Begins is much better.

 ;D

This isn't trolling, I really believe this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 1SO on July 19, 2008, 03:04:31 AM
Best Batman Poll (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4064.0)

You're not alone.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Moviebuff28 on July 27, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
I loved My Blueberry Nights.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 27, 2008, 02:42:00 PM
I loved My Blueberry Nights.

Popular opinion is that you hate My Blueberry Nights?  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 27, 2008, 03:08:53 PM
I loved My Blueberry Nights.

i loved your blueberry nights as well
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Moviebuff28 on July 27, 2008, 03:12:18 PM
I loved My Blueberry Nights.

Popular opinion is that you hate My Blueberry Nights?  ;)
lol.  How about My Blueberry Nights is one of the best films of 2008.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 1SO on July 27, 2008, 03:13:34 PM
I loved My Blueberry Nights.

i loved your blueberry nights as well

I love WKW, but did not love his Blueberry Nights.  Some of it works, but it feels like WKW is taking first steps towards getting comfortable with American actors and the English language.  Scenes like Rachel Weisz's hissy fit were embarrassing, and there's way, way, way too much of WKW's blurry slo-mo.

But some of it worked.  I thought Natalie Portman and her friendship with Norah Jones was especially effective.  And of course there's some great color photography.  Weisz's last shot is breathtaking, and I loved the way Portman looked against the painted desert and sky during the drive to Vegas.

Probably should have posted this in a Movie Talk thread, but just had to get that out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 27, 2008, 04:25:53 PM
i have not seen it yet
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Stocka on July 27, 2008, 04:32:24 PM
The Shining is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Other than the well crafted isolated atmosphere created and Jack Nicholson's performance (for laughs) everything else in this film is nothing special.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on July 27, 2008, 05:33:34 PM
The Shining is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Other than the well crafted isolated atmosphere created and Jack Nicholson's performance (for laughs) everything else in this film is nothing special.

yeah, but you have scarface as one of your top 5 films of all time   :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on July 27, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
The Shining is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Other than the well crafted isolated atmosphere created and Jack Nicholson's performance (for laughs) everything else in this film is nothing special.

yeah, but you have scarface as one of your top 5 films of all time   :P

PWNED!!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on July 27, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
The Shining is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Other than the well crafted isolated atmosphere created and Jack Nicholson's performance (for laughs) everything else in this film is nothing special.

yeah, but you have scarface as one of your top 5 films of all time   :P

PWNED!!!!

Daammmmnnn, this is getting personal!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 27, 2008, 09:32:03 PM
The Shining is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Other than the well crafted isolated atmosphere created and Jack Nicholson's performance (for laughs) everything else in this film is nothing special.

Crank is better than The Shining.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on July 27, 2008, 10:05:02 PM
The Shining is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Other than the well crafted isolated atmosphere created and Jack Nicholson's performance (for laughs) everything else in this film is nothing special.

Crank is better than The Shining.

Yeah, but computers are better than a love-seat, so...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 28, 2008, 01:36:05 PM
The Seven Samurai is a lackluster Kurosawa film.  (2.5/4 at best) :o

I defy anyone to top that! :P

(Prepares for those sensational people who hate Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane to throw their hats in the ring.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 28, 2008, 03:20:28 PM
The Seven Samurai is a lackluster Kurosawa film.  (2.5/4 at best) :o

I defy anyone to top that! :P

(Prepares for those sensational people who hate Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane to throw their hats in the ring.)

You can't just casually drop a bomb like that without providing some reasoning.

DO IT.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: alexarch on July 28, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
If someone would've told me that the plot of A Bug's Life borrows (or steals, depending on your viewpoint) heavily from Seven Samurai and/or The Magnificent Seven, I might've watched one or both of them sooner.

Either way, A Bug's Life is better than The Magnificent Seven.  However, A Bug's Life does not possess the ability to make a gay boy swoon for Charles Bronson or Steve McQueen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: bloop on July 28, 2008, 03:38:02 PM
The Seven Samurai is a lackluster Kurosawa film.  (2.5/4 at best) :o

I defy anyone to top that! :P

LOL I can't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on July 28, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
The Seven Samurai is a lackluster Kurosawa film.  (2.5/4 at best) :o

I defy anyone to top that! :P

(Prepares for those sensational people who hate Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane to throw their hats in the ring.)


Okay. I HATE Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane, as well as Back to the Future, The Wizard of OZ, It's a Wonderful Life, A Christmas Story, puppies, babies, and candy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on July 28, 2008, 03:55:40 PM
Close.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 1SO on July 28, 2008, 04:05:57 PM

Okay. I HATE Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane, as well as Back to the Future, The Wizard of OZ, It's a Wonderful Life, A Christmas Story, puppies, babies, and candy.

love how you snuck Back To The Future into that list
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 28, 2008, 05:32:46 PM
The Seven Samurai is a lackluster Kurosawa film.  (2.5/4 at best) :o

I defy anyone to top that! :P

(Prepares for those sensational people who hate Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane to throw their hats in the ring.)

You can't just casually drop a bomb like that without providing some reasoning.

DO IT.
Okay.

I guess my biggest qualm is that I feel that three of the seven samurai are throwaway characters that aren't ever really developed. I really wanted each to have their own distinct personalities but found the that film failed to deliver that. Also, the pacing was just really off to me. Once the fighting starts I think it's fantastic but a lot of the early sequences felt like a ridiculously long drag, especially coming across every last samurai one at a time. A couple of setups were great, mainly the swordmaster, but others were pointless. I had to force myself to watch the first hour of this film before I actually got interested, which is always a bad sign because I love a lot of slow paced, deliberate films.

Those are my two main qualms with the film. But it's just my opinion and knowing me it's probably woefully wrong. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on July 28, 2008, 09:49:27 PM

Okay. I HATE Casablanca, The Godfather and Citizen Kane, as well as Back to the Future, The Wizard of OZ, It's a Wonderful Life, A Christmas Story, puppies, babies, and candy.

love how you snuck Back To The Future into that list

Yeah. I figured by now enough people know about my love of BttF.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 28, 2008, 09:52:01 PM
I tried to watch Citizen Kane the other night and fell asleep...I hang my head in shame.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on July 29, 2008, 12:44:19 AM
I tried to watch Citizen Kane the other night and fell asleep...I hang my head in shame.

don't worry about it, the movie is pretty dull  ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 1SO on July 29, 2008, 01:16:34 AM
Great Movies that I Hate could be a thread unto itself... "Super Deluxe Unpopular Opinions."

Films by Fellini (after La Strada), Scorsese (Before Last Temptation) and a couple of Kubrick

8 1/2 and La Dolce Vita - completely didn't get the point and honestly didn't care.

Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Mean Streets - I think Cape Fear is better than those 3.

2001 - way more of its time than people are willing to admit.
Dr. Strangelove - a comedy by people who were smarter than you and were going to educate you on dumb comedy.  Don't think it's funny, just smug.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on July 29, 2008, 09:07:27 AM
I tried to watch Citizen Kane the other night and fell asleep...I hang my head in shame.

don't worry about it, the movie is pretty dull  ;D

It's far from dull. But I too regularly fall asleep when trying to watch old b/w movies at night.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 29, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Reading subtitles hurts my brain.  :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Moviebuff28 on July 29, 2008, 04:24:50 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on July 29, 2008, 04:28:11 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.

Is it because of the nose?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on July 29, 2008, 04:34:02 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.

Is it because of the nose?

One of the worst noses I've ever seen
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Moviebuff28 on July 29, 2008, 04:39:04 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.

Is it because of the nose?
No but it was by a nose.  bdumpcha. :D :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on July 29, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.

I hated the score.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 29, 2008, 05:31:46 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.

Is it because of the nose?

The nose plays.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: alexarch on July 29, 2008, 05:35:37 PM
The Hours is one of the worst film I have ever seen.
I hated the score.
Philip "Neverending-Arpeggios-Equals-Tension" Glass?  Why, however is that possible?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 29, 2008, 05:39:43 PM
Don't hate on the Glass.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 29, 2008, 07:14:56 PM
Don't hate on the Glass.

I love that song he wrote. I forget the name, but it goes... doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 29, 2008, 08:18:16 PM
Don't hate on the Glass.

I love that song he wrote. I forget the name, but it goes... doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE.
wow, you just summed up every piece of music he's ever composed in the simplest most moronic way.



You rock! ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on July 30, 2008, 02:09:04 AM
Don't hate on the Glass.

I love that song he wrote. I forget the name, but it goes... doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDEE DOO-DEE dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH dooDAHdeeDAH doodee doodee doodee doodee doodee dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE dooDEE.
wow, you just summed up every piece of music he's ever composed in the simplest most moronic way.


You rock! ;D

Hahahaha I'm watching Koyaanisqatsi right now, and that is exactly what the music would look like.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Wowser on July 30, 2008, 06:00:23 AM
You're being very unfair to Philip Glass. Einstein on the Beach is CINECAST!ing amazing. It's just that for film scores, I think he just whittles of a few arpeggios that are lying around his house. But there is so much more to him than his film music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0BSh7RXPc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0BSh7RXPc)

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 30, 2008, 09:26:03 AM
wow, you just summed up every piece of music he's ever composed in the simplest most moronic way.

You rock! ;D

Thanks, I think. I used to write/draw a comic strip and one of the gags involved the characters on a "Name That Turne" style of game show and all of the songs were Phillip Glass pieces (hence the comic booky dooDEEs). I had NO response AT ALL to the joke, which only encourages me to repeat it until it finds an appropriate audience.

Having said all of that, I do own several Glass albums, including the above-mentioned Einstein on the Beach. I save my harshest criticism for the material I love and/or financially support.

I am honestly surprised no one has quoted my post and added a, "Heh heh. You said doodee."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on July 30, 2008, 09:33:30 AM
The little voice inside my head said it - and laughed like Beavis and Butthead...does that help?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on July 30, 2008, 09:34:46 AM
The little voice inside my head said it - and laughed like Beavis and Butthead...does that help?

Yes. I am vindicated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: philip918 on July 31, 2008, 10:37:03 AM
I just watched Pickpocket and hated it.  Was like Crime and Punishment Lite.  The staging was super forced and the actual pickpocketing stuff was so poorly done it was laughable.  It's like the director is spoon feeding the audience with every shot - "Look at this.  See what he's doing here.  That's a wallet."

Why are the police so concerned about a pickpocket?  They sure devote an awful lot of resources to catching this one small time crook.   And, then when he goes to jail the film acts as if it's the end of the world and he's going away for ever.  Um, he'd probably be out a few months. 

And, I couldn't comprehend his change of heart at the end toward Jeanne.  His attitude towards her literally changes from one scene to the next with no discernible cause.  Stakes in this were just really, really low and I couldn't get into it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on August 17, 2008, 07:15:52 PM
Vanilla Sky is the worst movie I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 17, 2008, 07:26:13 PM
Vanilla Sky is the worst movie I've ever seen.
After Back to the Future

Let the hyperbole begin!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 17, 2008, 07:34:11 PM
I have liked all Jennifer Lopez movies. And I like Uptown Girls.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 17, 2008, 10:22:59 PM
Vanilla Sky is the worst movie I've ever seen.
After Back to the Future

Let the hyperbole begin!

How can you say things like that? How?

I have liked all Jennifer Lopez movies. And I like Uptown Girls.

I really don't mind Jennifer Lopez movies at all. You can do much much worse when it comes to silly rom-coms.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 17, 2008, 10:44:14 PM
Vanilla Sky is the worst movie I've ever seen.
After Back to the Future

Let the hyperbole begin!

How can you say things like that? How?
Because my purpose in life is to break the hearts of moviegoers like you! :P

And in all seriousness, I'm not being serious, just inflammatory.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Photomitch on August 18, 2008, 12:08:15 AM
I agree that Nicolas Cage can't play a sympathetic character to save his life...
Let alone any other character.....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on August 18, 2008, 01:09:11 AM
vanilla sky is a great movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 01:17:09 AM
I thought that was a popular opinion. Cripes, I'm hanging out with the wrong crowd in my hood.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 18, 2008, 05:17:18 AM
I agree that Nicolas Cage can't play a sympathetic character to save his life...
Let alone any other character.....

Hear, hear. How the man ever got a part, let alone any fans, is beyond me.

Well, I guess it's obvious how he originally got a part (hint: the Italian word for "Cage" is "Coppola"). But how did it go anywhere from there?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 18, 2008, 05:18:02 AM
And I'll tell you another: Ben Stiller is not funny. In any context, ever.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 18, 2008, 08:47:36 AM
I agree that Nicolas Cage can't play a sympathetic character to save his life...
Let alone any other character.....

Hear, hear. How the man ever got a part, let alone any fans, is beyond me.
I agree. He's better left playing baddies, if anything.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 18, 2008, 09:05:54 AM
I agree that Nicolas Cage can't play a sympathetic character to save his life...
Let alone any other character.....

Hear, hear. How the man ever got a part, let alone any fans, is beyond me.
I agree. He's better left playing baddies, if anything.

He's better left on the side of a road.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 18, 2008, 09:27:24 AM
And I'll tell you another: Ben Stiller is not funny. In any context, ever.

Ben Stiller can be funny, but only when he's not going over the top, which is unfortunately just about all he does these days.

Along the Ben Stiller lines, There's Something About Mary is one of the best romantic comedies of the last 25 years (I'm not sure what the reaction to the film is 10 years later, for all I know this isn't even an unpopular opinion).
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 10:13:48 AM
I agree that Nicolas Cage can't play a sympathetic character to save his life...
Let alone any other character.....

Hear, hear. How the man ever got a part, let alone any fans, is beyond me.
I agree. He's better left playing baddies, if anything.

He's better left on the side of a road.

Really? No one sympathized with him in Matchstick Men? Or Moonstruck?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 10:27:13 AM
I like Face/Off
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 18, 2008, 10:29:41 AM
I like Face/Off
I second the like. It's my favorite John Woo movie! ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on August 18, 2008, 10:34:32 AM
I like Face/Off
I second the like. It's my favorite John Woo movie! ;D

If you can watch Face/Off you can watch The Rock.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 18, 2008, 10:36:29 AM
I like Face/Off
I second the like. It's my favorite John Woo movie! ;D

If you can watch Face/Off you can watch The Rock.
You and your attempts to get me to watch Bay. I won't give in I tell you, I won't!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 10:37:32 AM
I like Face/Off
I second the like. It's my favorite John Woo movie! ;D

If you can watch Face/Off you can watch The Rock.

I catch the Rock whenever it's on cable...I like that movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 10:37:59 AM
I like Face/Off
I second the like. It's my favorite John Woo movie! ;D

If you can watch Face/Off you can watch The Rock.
You and your attempts to get me to watch Bay. I won't give in I tell you, I won't!

You don't like Transformers?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 10:38:22 AM
The Rock is really good though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on August 18, 2008, 10:38:29 AM
I like Face/Off
I second the like. It's my favorite John Woo movie! ;D

If you can watch Face/Off you can watch The Rock.
You and your attempts to get me to watch Bay. I won't give in I tell you, I won't!

Bayist!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 10:38:55 AM
The Rock is really good though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on August 18, 2008, 10:42:18 AM
I officially declare that whoever gets my good friend lotr-samnumbers for the movie dictator club make him watch The Rock.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 10:43:42 AM
I officially declare that whoever gets my good friend lotr-samnumbers for the movie dictator club make him watch The Rock.

Awesome!


*BOOM!*
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 10:44:21 AM
I digress, The Rock is terrible.

But Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson isn't so bad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 10:47:18 AM
I digress, The Rock is terrible terribly good.

But And Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson isn't so bad.

I totally agree.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 11:14:15 AM
 ::)

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 11:16:09 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 11:17:25 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?

It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film wasn't so bad."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 11:19:43 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?

It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film wasn't so bad."

But there it is...in print...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 11:20:10 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?
It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film, bad boys II, wasn't so bad awesome."
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 11:21:04 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?
It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film, bad boys II, wasn't so bad awesome."

No. Never. No.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 11:22:11 AM
deny deny deny

(http://highbridnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bad-boys-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 11:23:02 AM
I think I threw up a little in my mouth. :-X
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 11:28:11 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?
It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film, bad boys II, wasn't so bad awesome."

NoYES!. NeverOH GOD!. NoYES!.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 11:31:33 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?
It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film, bad boys II, wasn't so bad awesome."

NoYES!. NeverOH GOD!. NoYES!.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That never happend.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 11:38:24 AM
You can't even stomach The Rock?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 11:41:14 AM

NoYES!. NeverOH GOD!. NoYES!.


marbegirl! i'm blushing
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 11:42:48 AM
Me too... :-[
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 12:22:57 PM

NoYES!. NeverOH GOD!. NoYES!.


marbegirl! i'm blushing a huge dork

Well I already knew that, but okay.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 12:32:55 PM
haha! now you're getting it!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 12:37:01 PM
This is really odd. What happened to this thread? Why does Michael Bay always screw everything up?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on August 18, 2008, 12:39:29 PM
Why does Michael Bay always screw everything up?

I ask myself that question every day.

Every day.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
Here's a unpopular opinion, I don't think Citizen Caine is the greatest American movie ever. And does not deserve to be one on AFI's list. It should be Godfather. Yeah, I said it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 01:02:40 PM
Here's a unpopular opinion, I don't think Citizen Caine is the greatest American movie ever. And does not deserve to be one on AFI's list. It should be Godfather. Yeah, I said it.

It shouldn't be The Godfather either
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 01:02:47 PM
Here's a unpopular opinion, I don't think Citizen Caine is the greatest American movie ever. And does not deserve to be one on AFI's list. It should be Godfather. Yeah, I said it.

I agree and disagree. I don't think Citizen Kane should be #1, but I also don't think Godfather should be either. I actually think Godfather is more overrated than Citizen Kane.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 01:11:02 PM
Here's a unpopular opinion, I don't think Citizen Caine is the greatest American movie ever. And does not deserve to be one on AFI's list. It should be Godfather. Yeah, I said it.

I agree and disagree. I don't think Citizen Kane should be #1, but I also don't think Godfather should be either. I actually think Godfather is more overrated than Citizen Kane.

If not, then what? Godfather isn't my favorite movie. But I recognize that it has all of the best elements.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
Apocalypse Now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 01:24:49 PM
While I usually prefer not to make an a** of myself and shoot out statements that are too bold, I think that the number one movie on that list (in my opinion, based on what I like and what I think makes good cinema) would be a three way tie between The Maltese Falcon, Raging Bull and Schindler's List. I don't know which one I'd officially put at number one however.

Not to mention that I feel limited by the fact that this is an American movie list. There is so much international fare that I've seen that would trump much of the top 80.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 01:26:24 PM
While I usually prefer not to make an a** of myself and shoot out statements that are too bold, I think that the number one movie on that list (in my opinion, based on what I like and what I think makes good cinema) would be a three way tie between The Maltese Falcon, Raging Bull and Schindler's List. I don't know which one I'd officially put at number one however.

Not to mention that I feel limited by the fact that this is an American movie list. There is so much international fare that I've seen that would trump much of the top 80.

I like the Maltese Falcon choice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 01:30:11 PM
It's an excellent, excellent film. The Best of its genre (noir, drama) and has always been been one of my all time favorites.
Kudos to your Apocalypse Now pick. Probably my favorite war related film. It's beautifully shot and crafted, but I wouldn't put in at number one.

I would suggest you watch Heart of Darkness, the documentary about the making of Apocalypse Now. It was a film I tangled with in the first round of the 90s bracket. It's also quite good.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 01:40:44 PM
I've seen Hearts of Darkness. It only makes me appreciate the film more. It's like the film was the perfect result of insanity. A film about insanity created be insanity. Perfect.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on August 18, 2008, 01:50:04 PM
Apocalypse Now.

I'm gonna have to agree and disagree here.  Apocalypse Now has long been my pick for the Best American Film, however I don't know that I agree with dethroning Citizen Kane. 

The only reason people ever watch it at all anymore is because it's on the top of the list.  Take that away and we risk forgetting it forever.  It already bothers me that so many are so quick to dismiss it now as "not so great," which is bizarre and sad.  But I think it's a fine pick to keep there because I feel as if it's one that everyone can agree on.  Not too many people can successfully defend the statement: "Citizen Kane sucks."

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter what's where on the list, so long as it points you towards the best films to check out.  And I fear that the kids will skip Kane if it's not shoved down their throats that it's the best ever.
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Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 01:51:16 PM
Apocalypse Now.

I'm gonna have to agree and disagree here.  Apocalypse Now has long been my pick for the Best American Film, however I don't know that I agree with dethroning Citizen Kane. 

The only reason people ever watch it at all anymore is because it's on the top of the list.  Take that away and we risk forgetting it forever.  It already bothers me that so many are so quick to dismiss it now as "not so great," which is bizarre and sad.  But I think it's a fine pick to keep there because I feel as if it's one that everyone can agree on.  Not too many people can successfully defend the statement: "Citizen Kane sucks."

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter what's where on the list, so long as it points you towards the best films to check out.  And I fear that the kids will skip Kane if it's not shoved down their throats that it's the best ever.

I can understand that point, but I still think Citizen Kane is easily in the top 10, so it's not too far down on the list.
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Post by: sdedalus on August 18, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
And I fear that the kids will skip Kane if it's not shoved down their throats that it's the best ever.

I fear the opposite: that it's been canonized for so long in that #1 spot that people only watch it out of a sense of duty (or when they're forced to).  It makes it hard for them to notice just how vibrant, exciting and alive the film really is.
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Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 03:29:39 PM
And I fear that the kids will skip Kane if it's not shoved down their throats that it's the best ever.

I fear the opposite: that it's been canonized for so long in that #1 spot that people only watch it out of a sense of duty (or when they're forced to).  It makes it hard for them to notice just how vibrant, exciting and alive the film really is.

I totally agree Sean - I tried to watch it the other night, not because I wasd in the mood for a film but because I felt like I should watch it (haven't yet) and it was on.
I want to see it but I want some prep for it...

Why do you think it's so exciting and alive?
What elements make it that way for you?
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Post by: sdedalus on August 18, 2008, 03:38:47 PM
The enthusiasm of the film style, with Welles and Toland and Mankiewicz throwing everything they can think of up on the screen.  It looks like a film that everybody involved loved making.

You don't need to be prepared for it.  It's a movie, not a test.
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Post by: Marbe on August 18, 2008, 03:49:58 PM
The enthusiasm of the film style, with Welles and Toland and Mankiewicz throwing everything they can think of up on the screen.  It looks like a film that everybody involved loved making.

You don't need to be prepared for it.  It's a movie, not a test.

I agree with all of the above. I watched it because I thought I had to. I tried to like because I thought I had to. It didn't take.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on August 18, 2008, 04:03:28 PM
And I fear that the kids will skip Kane if it's not shoved down their throats that it's the best ever.

I fear the opposite: that it's been canonized for so long in that #1 spot that people only watch it out of a sense of duty (or when they're forced to).  It makes it hard for them to notice just how vibrant, exciting and alive the film really is.

You know, I never took that into consideration.  Very fair point to make.  And that taps into something that's frustrated me for a long time, the idea that rankings don't signify films that should be exalted so much as a challenge to the viewer to tear it down. 

So maybe you're right, the top spot might bring with it a set of unrealistic expectations.  But it frustrates me that praising it makes it suspect.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: DennisLu on August 18, 2008, 04:14:31 PM
The Antonioni Trilogy could have used a few banana peels.
A lot of my friends like The Life Aquatic, even though I try not to make friends with people who like Life Aquatic.
Michael Haneke films are enjoyable.
Norah Jones is OK in My Blueberry Nights, she's just supposed to be a blank slate and it worked for me.



Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 04:19:39 PM

A lot of my friends like The Life Aquatic, even though I try not to make friends with people who like Life Aquatic.


words to live by
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Mandrake on August 18, 2008, 04:22:30 PM
Dr. T and the Women is a very good movie
Juno is not
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 18, 2008, 04:26:45 PM
juno is probably overrated.

i have nothing to say about dr.t and the women
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: DennisLu on August 18, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
Juno is sexually attractive when pregnant.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on August 18, 2008, 04:33:16 PM
Dr. T and the Women is a very good movie
Juno is not
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 04:33:41 PM
Juno is a good movie. Screw you all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on August 18, 2008, 04:34:49 PM
Juno is a good movie. Screw you all.

Rodents unite!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on August 18, 2008, 04:48:37 PM
Juno is a good movie. Screw you all.

http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4314.0 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4314.0)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 18, 2008, 04:56:28 PM
Juno is sexually attractive when pregnant.
Reminds me of Patriot Games (the novel). There's a great exchange about pregnant women.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 07:28:28 PM
Juno being sexually attractive when pregnant. Yup, you wrote that in the right column.

Life Aquatic... Hmm, I love what Criterion does and most of the films they choose to give the royal treatment, but they definitely got it wrong when they chose to work on Life Aquatic. So overrated!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on August 18, 2008, 07:28:32 PM
Dr. T and the Women is a very good movie
Juno is not

Never saw Dr T, I usually don't like well-recieved Altman so I tend to avoid the ones that get panned.

Juno is unfunny and the writing painfully mannered. Diablo Cody is a one hit wonder.
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Post by: jbissell on August 18, 2008, 07:45:24 PM

Life Aquatic... Hmm, I love what Criterion does and most of the films they choose to give the royal treatment, but they definitely got it wrong when they chose to work on Life Aquatic. So overrated!

Is the Life Aquatic really overrated? It's might be my least favorite Wes Anderson film but I thought that was the general feeling most had about it. It's MetaCritic score is a 62, which is just about average. I guess the IMDB score is a bit higher at 7.2 but that's not too much higher than it should be rated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 07:47:50 PM
You don't need to be prepared for it.  It's a movie, not a test.

Sometimes it helps for me to be able to look for things I may not normally find in a film - I tried late night and fell asleep, maybe I was tired, or maybe I thought it sucked - whatever I am willing to give it a second chance.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Mandrake on August 18, 2008, 07:48:48 PM
Dr. T and the Women is a very good movie
Juno is not

Never saw Dr T, I usually don't like well-recieved Altman so I tend to avoid the ones that get panned.

Juno is unfunny and the writing painfully mannered. Diablo Cody is a one hit wonder.

Speaking of metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/drtandthewomen?q=dr.%20t%20and%20the%20women (http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/drtandthewomen?q=dr.%20t%20and%20the%20women)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 07:49:43 PM

Life Aquatic... Hmm, I love what Criterion does and most of the films they choose to give the royal treatment, but they definitely got it wrong when they chose to work on Life Aquatic. So overrated!

Is the Life Aquatic really overrated? It's might be my least favorite Wes Anderson film but I thought that was the general feeling most had about it. It's MetaCritic score is a 62, which is just about average. I guess the IMDB score is a bit higher at 7.2 but that's not too much higher than it should be rated.

You may right about that. However, a lot of people I know really like that film. Besides, cinecasting Criterion made a special edition about it. 9 times out of 10 that's a good sign. Life Aquatic was the other 1.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on August 18, 2008, 07:53:00 PM
Seeing as I often feel like the only person who thinks The Life Aquatic is fantastic, I wouldn't say disliking it is an unpopular opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 18, 2008, 07:53:23 PM
Seeing as I often feel like the only person who thinks The Life Aquatic is fantastic, I wouldn't say call it overrated.

I saw it and loved it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 18, 2008, 07:54:30 PM

Life Aquatic... Hmm, I love what Criterion does and most of the films they choose to give the royal treatment, but they definitely got it wrong when they chose to work on Life Aquatic. So overrated!

Is the Life Aquatic really overrated? It's might be my least favorite Wes Anderson film but I thought that was the general feeling most had about it. It's MetaCritic score is a 62, which is just about average. I guess the IMDB score is a bit higher at 7.2 but that's not too much higher than it should be rated.

You may right about that. However, a lot of people I know really like that film. Besides, cinecasting Criterion made a special edition about it. 9 times out of 10 that's a good sign. Life Aquatic was the other 1.

Criterion has a handful of questionable choices, but the Life Aquatic is far from the worst film they've released. Armageddon?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 18, 2008, 08:01:31 PM
Criterion worked on Armageddon? You must be shi**** me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 18, 2008, 08:14:14 PM
Seeing as I often feel like the only person who thinks The Life Aquatic is fantastic, I wouldn't say call it overrated.

I saw it and loved it.

I'm with you guys.

Criterion's released two Michael Bay films: Armageddon and The Rock.
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Post by: roujin on August 18, 2008, 08:27:56 PM
It needs a rewatch but I like it as well.
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Post by: oneaprilday on August 18, 2008, 08:37:40 PM
Seeing as I often feel like the only person who thinks The Life Aquatic is fantastic, I wouldn't say call it overrated.

I saw it and loved it.

I'm with you guys.

Count me in, too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on August 18, 2008, 10:49:33 PM
i don't think Aquatic is fantastic, but it is really good. All of Anderson's films are really good to great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 18, 2008, 11:17:44 PM
Every word that comes out of my mouth is an unpopular movie opinion. :P
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Post by: Junior on August 18, 2008, 11:18:20 PM
Every word that comes out of my mouth is an unpopular movie opinion. :P


WRONG!
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Post by: ¡Keith! on August 19, 2008, 01:03:35 AM
::)



Does that mean you agree with the above?
It'll be a cold day in hell when I say, "You know that Michael Bay film, bad boys II, wasn't so bad awesome."

NoYES!. NeverOH GOD!. NoYES!.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

um... marty...


i totally love you (in that same way)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 19, 2008, 07:24:50 AM
All of Anderson's films are really good to great.

No, they're not. They're all quirk, and nothing else. He's one of the most overrated filmmakers of all time, and I predict that in 4 or 5 years everyone will be saying that they always thought he was overrated. Like Kevin Spacey, or Winona Ryder.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Ronan on August 19, 2008, 07:41:22 AM
I dont think so. Bottle Rocket & Rushmore or both 10+ years old now and there still well regarded
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 19, 2008, 08:50:22 AM
Bottle Rocket was all right, for an early effort. Rushmore was unwatchable.

You're right, though, people do still seem to like Rushmore. Maybe they won't begin to see through the schtick.
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Post by: FroHam X on August 19, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
Bottle Rocket was all right, for an early effort. Rushmore was unwatchable.

You're right, though, people do still seem to like Rushmore. Maybe they won't begin to see through the schtick.

People seem to like Rushmore because its cinecast!ing brilliant!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 09:02:15 AM
Bottle Rocket was all right, for an early effort. Rushmore was unwatchable.

You're right, though, people do still seem to like Rushmore. Maybe they won't begin to see through the schtick.

People seem to like Rushmore because its cinecast!ing brilliant!

Was not impressed with Rushmore - I can never get through the whole thing...B-O-R-I-N-G!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on August 19, 2008, 09:03:50 AM
This page makes me sad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on August 19, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
All of Anderson's films are really good to great.

No, they're not. They're all quirk, and nothing else. He's one of the most overrated filmmakers of all time, and I predict that in 4 or 5 years everyone will be saying that they always thought he was overrated. Like Kevin Spacey, or Winona Ryder.

Correct!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 19, 2008, 10:18:59 AM
Sometimes you guys make me so angry.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 19, 2008, 12:30:05 PM
This page makes me sad.

For sure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 12:32:19 PM
cry babies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 19, 2008, 12:35:16 PM
cry babies.

It's ok, I can accept the fact that his films aren't for everyone.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 19, 2008, 01:09:14 PM
i don't think Aquatic is fantastic, but it is really good. All of Anderson's films are really good kinda crappy to great.

lest anyone forget darjeeling
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Mandrake on August 19, 2008, 01:52:51 PM
i don't think Aquatic is fantastic, but it is really good. All of Anderson's films are really good kinda crappy to great.

lest anyone forget darjeeling

thats the one while I am watching it - "this must be great, this must be great, this must be great!"  "But it isn't, it isn't, it isn't"
Its just OK.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 19, 2008, 01:55:35 PM
i thought darjeeling was on the  border between crappy and kinda crappy.  it's on the bubble i guess.

but really, what a disappointment
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 19, 2008, 01:56:56 PM
TDL>TLA
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Mandrake on August 19, 2008, 01:59:40 PM
TDL>TLA

kinda disagree with that - I was surprised how much I liked Aquatic - laborious thread this is becoming huh

shall I, yes.....Raising Cain was a pretty good romp
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 19, 2008, 02:25:19 PM
I predict that in 4 or 5 years everyone will be saying that they always thought he was overrated. Like Kevin Spacey, or Winona Ryder.

Who's got a problem with Winona Ryder?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
I predict that in 4 or 5 years everyone will be saying that they always thought he was overrated. Like Kevin Spacey, or Winona Ryder.

Who's got a problem with Winona Ryder?

QFT
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 19, 2008, 02:58:07 PM
I predict that in 4 or 5 years everyone will be saying that they always thought he was overrated. Like Kevin Spacey, or Winona Ryder.

Who's got a problem with Winona Ryder?
Me. She was horrible in Alien: Resurection.

Then again most things were.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 19, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Me. She was horrible in Alien: Resurection.

Then again most things were.

made me believe in robot love again
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 19, 2008, 03:02:34 PM
i need to see Alien 4
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 19, 2008, 03:05:34 PM
I predict that in 4 or 5 years everyone will be saying that they always thought he was overrated. Like Kevin Spacey, or Winona Ryder.

Who's got a problem with Winona Ryder?

I don't have any real problem with her, she's been in a bunch of bad movies but I never saw any of them so it hasn't tainted my opinion of her.  She was good as the outsider girl in Scissorhands, Heathers, and Beetlejuice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 19, 2008, 03:13:50 PM
reality bites, little women, a scanner darkly, girl, interrupted, the age of innocence, bram stoker's dracula
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 03:14:36 PM
Winona will always be that cute pixie headed girl who turns out to be batshit crazy...in my younger days, I would have dated her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 03:15:25 PM
But I will always have a soft spot for Reality Bites - no matter how bad it is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 19, 2008, 03:16:05 PM
i need to see Alien 4
Not really. I don't dislike it but I don't like it either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on August 19, 2008, 03:18:41 PM
i need to see Alien 4
Not really. I don't dislike it but I don't like it either.

there is one scene from that movie that always sticks out in my mind. it was really . . . . odd . . .

now what was it? . . .

 . . . .

OH GOD, i remembered
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 19, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
Who's got a problem with Winona Ryder?
Me. She was horrible in Alien: Resurection.

Then again most things were.

That's like judging Jimmy Stewart on the basis of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

Lots of actors make bad movies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 19, 2008, 04:02:45 PM
But I will always have a soft spot for Reality Bites - no matter how bad it is.

It isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: winrit on August 19, 2008, 04:03:35 PM
But I will always have a soft spot for Reality Bites - no matter how bad it is.

It isn't bad at all.

I think it perfectly captures post-college life.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 04:07:07 PM
But I will always have a soft spot for Reality Bites - no matter how bad it is.

It isn't bad at all.

It's dated, kinda pithy...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: winrit on August 19, 2008, 04:08:10 PM
Edit:

I think it perfectly captures post-college life in the 90s.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 19, 2008, 04:12:16 PM
It's dated, kinda pithy...

I don't think "dated" is a negative.  I don't think it's a bad thing if a film represents the time in which it was made.

Regardless, even if you don't get all the references, the essentials of the story are timeless.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 04:16:28 PM
I get all of the references but also - I just didn't find Ethan hawke's character all that sympathetic...he was kind of an ass...immature.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on August 19, 2008, 04:17:42 PM
I'm only hearing negative: no, no, no - bad.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on August 19, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
Winona will always be that cute pixie headed girl who turns out to be batshit crazy...in my younger days, I would have dated her.

:)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 19, 2008, 04:20:14 PM
I'm only hearing negative: no, no, no - bad.

pixote

So turn the radio on, & turn the radio up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on August 19, 2008, 04:21:36 PM
I get all of the references but also - I just didn't find Ethan hawke's character all that sympathetic...he was kind of an ass...immature.

I still agree with Ebert's original review. This movie is missing two scenes. One where Ryder tells of Hawke for being an insufferable ass. Two where Still tells off Ryder because he saved her movie with some clever editing and a joke about pizza.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on August 19, 2008, 04:23:36 PM
Edit:

I think it perfectly captures post-college life in the 90s.  :)

I agree. It came out when I was a junior in college, and I loved it in large part because it resonated so much with my life then. I watched it again recently, and it didn't hit me the same way and I did find Hawke's character whiney (something I didn't see at all earlier); however, I still do love the film for what it captures and for what it captured from my life then. Apart from Hawke, I like all the characters - they feel real to me. Actually, now that I'm thinking of it, even whiney Hawke feels real - I had a boyfriend in college who was very much like him, constantly moaning about his philosophical angst.  :)


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on August 19, 2008, 04:24:28 PM
What's your glitch?

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 19, 2008, 04:25:56 PM
I get all of the references but also - I just didn't find Ethan hawke's character all that sympathetic...he was kind of an ass...immature.

I don't think he's supposed to be sympathetic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 19, 2008, 04:56:07 PM
Actually - the film resonates well with me. I knew/know those people...

It's the part where he kisses her and starts talking about evolving...shudder...but still stays the same self-serving A**HOLE and the whole HIV/AIDS thing was awkward. Not because they addressed it but how - it felt shoe-horned in just to stay topical.

Don't get me wrong - I like the film, a lot. I watch it whenever it comes on...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 19, 2008, 05:17:03 PM
Fair enough.  The Zahn and Garofalo subplots have always struck me as awkward as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: DennisLu on August 19, 2008, 05:37:09 PM
I love Bottlerocket, Rushmore, and Winona Ryder.  And I can't wait for the Bottlerocket and Chunking Express Blu-rays.

Also, Winona Ryder is sexually attractive as Jerry Lee Lewis' 13 year old cousin in Great Balls of Fire.  Talk about an apt title.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on August 19, 2008, 06:13:52 PM
i don't think Aquatic is fantastic, but it is really good. All of Anderson's films are really good to great.

Agreed.  I liked The Life Aquatic.  It's got a great soundtrack. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 20, 2008, 06:40:56 AM
Reality Bites totally sucked, as did every movie Ryder was ever in. She even manages to ruin (her part of) Night on Earth, which is a film I otherwise love. Some of the most agonizing cinematic moments ever were in Looking for Richard, where Al Pacino is going on and on about what kind of actress they should get to play Anne, and how she has to have all these contrasting qualities and has to be completely perfect blah blah blah blah. You knew he was really referring to some specific person, and the whole time I was sitting there thinking, "Please tell me he's not talking about Winona CINECAST!ing Ryder." When she appeared, I think I threw something at the screen. Fortunately I wasn't in a theater, because I probably still would have thrown something.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 20, 2008, 06:48:36 AM
OK, but pixote's right. Let's have a positive unpopular movie opinion . . .

Really good movies:
Seabiscuit
Mission Impossible: III
Sliding Doors
The Runaway Jury, and most other Grisham films

Those are just off the top of my head. It's hard to come up with really controversial positive things, actually. Must be why we're all so focused on the things we don't like. Seriously, though, what's your favorite movie that everyone hates? Not a guilty pleasure, but a movie that you actually think is good, and everyone else is wrong about?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 08:25:14 AM
I love Tremors...

With that in mind - I think Burt Ward is a fun actor to watch, also Kevin Bacon...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 08:32:24 AM
Jersey Girl is a highly underrated film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on August 20, 2008, 09:21:39 AM
I love Tremors...

Definitely. It should have been in the bracket. Bastards.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 20, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
Jersey Girl is a highly underrated film.

Yeah, I actually like that one quite a bit.  It's probably because that little girl is so adorable.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 09:33:47 AM
Jersey Girl is a highly underrated film.

Yeah, I actually like that one quite a bit.  It's probably because that little girl is so adorable.

That movie really got shat on to the point where even Smith has been apololgizing for it. He really shouldn't be. It's one of his better films easily. It comes off as a chick-flick, but it is really just about how Smith feels about parenthood.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 09:53:30 AM
One of Smith's better films - as compared to what?

I enjoy the occasional scene from his movies, hell, I even defended Clerks II only because it settled down to the level of humor I am embarrassed to admit enjoying and did it well.

Chasing Amy was the only good thing he's ever done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 09:56:06 AM
One of Smith's better films - as compared to what?

I enjoy the occasional scene from his movies, hell, I even defended Clerks II only because it settled down to the level of humor I am embarrassed to admit enjoying and did it well.

Chasing Amy was the only good thing he's ever done.

If you don't like Smith you don't like Smith. I can't really argue in that case.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on August 20, 2008, 10:22:21 AM
I love Tremors...


Ditto!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 20, 2008, 11:04:47 AM
Reality Bites totally sucked, as did every movie Ryder was ever in.

this is unpopular... with me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 20, 2008, 11:58:10 AM
Reality Bites totally sucked, as did every movie Ryder was ever in.

Looks like someone didn't see Autumn in New York...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 12:02:16 PM
Reality Bites was completely pretentious, just as Garden State was.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 12:22:56 PM
Oh - I agree with at least half of that statement.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 01:00:43 PM
Reality Bites was completely pretentious, just as Garden State was.

You're absolutely right except that Garden State was great!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 01:11:16 PM
Of course you would think so - you're of that drugged-out-ritalin-poppin-zoloft-swallowin-what's-my-therapist-think-about-this generation... :P

and I mean that in the nicest way

That film ruined my opinion of Portman and the Shins...not one likeable character. Braff got a pass because of Scrubs.

I wanted to scream at the TV - not a big hole in the ground.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 20, 2008, 01:38:54 PM
Of course you would think so - you're of that drugged-out-ritalin-poppin-zoloft-swallowin-what's-my-therapist-think-about-this generation... :P

and I mean that in the nicest way

That film ruined my opinion of Portman and the Shins...not one likeable character. Braff got a pass because of Scrubs.

I wanted to scream at the TV - not a big hole in the ground.

i just wanted to take up archery and listen to more of the shins - i did 1 of those things.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 20, 2008, 01:46:12 PM
Reality Bites was completely pretentious, just as Garden State was.

You're absolutely right except that Garden State was great!

No, she's just absolutely right. Full stop.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 02:29:06 PM
Of course you would think so - you're of that drugged-out-ritalin-poppin-zoloft-swallowin-what's-my-therapist-think-about-this generation... :P

and I mean that in the nicest way


That film ruined my opinion of Portman and the Shins...not one likeable character. Braff got a pass because of Scrubs.

I wanted to scream at the TV - not a big hole in the ground.

i just wanted to take up archery and listen to more of the shins - i did 1 of those things.

How's your aim?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 20, 2008, 03:02:48 PM
Of course you would think so - you're of that drugged-out-ritalin-poppin-zoloft-swallowin-what's-my-therapist-think-about-this generation... :P

and I mean that in the nicest way


That film ruined my opinion of Portman and the Shins...not one likeable character. Braff got a pass because of Scrubs.

I wanted to scream at the TV - not a big hole in the ground.

i just wanted to take up archery and listen to more of the shins - i did 1 of those things.

How's your aim?

gettin better every day
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 03:04:13 PM
There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl. Female characters only there to cheer up and inspire by being they're wacky selves. They have no ambitions, just to be there for the main character.

They are the bane of my existence.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 03:12:01 PM
There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl.

Where is her mind?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 20, 2008, 03:16:35 PM
Reality Bites was completely pretentious, just as Garden State was.

You're absolutely right except that Garden State was great!

Garden State was good, not great. I never understood the adoring love it received from people.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 03:18:52 PM
There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl.

Where is her mind?

I did not make that term up. It's a known term in the movie bloggin world old man.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 03:20:59 PM
Reality Bites was completely pretentious, just as Garden State was.

You're absolutely right except that Garden State was great!

Garden State was good, not great. I never understood the adoring love it received from people.


It was from everyone who was on antidepressants, seeing a therapist, felt stuck and had a f''ed up home life - LO AND BEHOLD! - there is a movie for them...

What they don't realize is that pretty encompasses most of american society...I don't need a movie to tell me I'm ok..I need a film to tell me it's ok to use a quarter to decide whether or not I kill someone.

There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl.

Where is her mind?

I did not make that term up. It's a known term in the movie bloggin world old man.  :P

I was quoting The Pixie's lyrics (with some slight alteration)...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 20, 2008, 03:23:40 PM

What they don't realize is that pretty encompasses most of american society...I don't need a movie to tell me I'm ok..I need a film to tell me it's ok to use a quarter to decide whether or not I kill someone.

so what'd it land on?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 03:27:42 PM
There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl.

Where is her mind?

I did not make that term up. It's a known term in the movie bloggin world old man.  :P

I was quoting The Pixie's lyrics (with some slight alteration)...

My bad, not a The Pixies fan at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 03:37:10 PM

What they don't realize is that pretty encompasses most of american society...I don't need a movie to tell me I'm ok..I need a film to tell me it's ok to use a quarter to decide whether or not I kill someone.

so what'd it land on?

Live.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 03:37:39 PM

There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl.

Where is her mind?

I did not make that term up. It's a known term in the movie bloggin world old man.  :P

I was quoting The Pixie's lyrics (with some slight alteration)...

My bad, not a The Pixies fan at all.



Um....old man?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 03:49:34 PM

There's an actual term for Potman's character, MPDG manic pixie dream girl.

Where is her mind?

I did not make that term up. It's a known term in the movie bloggin world old man.  :P

I was quoting The Pixie's lyrics (with some slight alteration)...

My bad, not a The Pixies fan at all.



Um....old man?

Sorry, but relative from my 19 to your 42, that's kind of old.

Just saying?  ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 04:40:53 PM
40 is the new 20...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 04:41:36 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 20, 2008, 05:16:02 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

thats only because if 20 year olds said it it would mean they weren't born yet.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 05:26:53 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 05:35:57 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

Too bad you'll start forgetting all that surplus knowledge in a few years.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 05:51:34 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

Too bad you'll start forgetting all that surplus knowledge in a few years.

BURN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 20, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

If you feel the same at 40 as you did at 20, then 20 was wasted on you. 40 probably is too. I'm in my 30s and can name all kinds of things that feel different than they did at 20. Filmgoing would be high atop the list.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 06:13:09 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

If you feel the same at 40 as you did at 20, then 20 was wasted on you. 40 probably is too. I'm in my 30s and can name all kinds of things that feel different than they did at 20. Filmgoing would be high atop the list.

I will never ever change my mind ever. I never have. And never will. I still play with barbies and Nsync is still my favorite band.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: oneaprilday on August 20, 2008, 06:16:40 PM
I will never ever change my mind ever. I never have. And never will.

This seems kind of sad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 06:20:07 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

If you feel the same at 40 as you did at 20, then 20 was wasted on you. 40 probably is too. I'm in my 30s and can name all kinds of things that feel different than they did at 20. Filmgoing would be high atop the list.

I will never ever change my mind ever. I never have. And never will. I still play with barbies and Nsync is still my favorite band.  ;)

Backstreet Boys were better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 20, 2008, 06:42:08 PM
Wow. The last few posts look as if they belong in some kind of 'no movie talk but unpopular opinion' thread.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 20, 2008, 07:15:58 PM
Sorry I didn't mean to offend you Martin with my post.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on August 20, 2008, 09:29:06 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

If you feel the same at 40 as you did at 20, then 20 was wasted on you. 40 probably is too. I'm in my 30s and can name all kinds of things that feel different than they did at 20. Filmgoing would be high atop the list.

I will never ever change my mind ever. I never have. And never will. I still play with barbies and Nsync is still my favorite band.  ;)

Backstreet Boys were better.

No they weren't!  'Nsync's better!  They had the funk.  They had Joey Fatone... star of such indie hits like My Big Fat Greek Wedding & The Cooler
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on August 20, 2008, 09:30:19 PM
It seems that liking Hellboy 2 is unpopular 'round these parts. Heathens.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 20, 2008, 09:31:52 PM
It seems that liking Hellboy 2 is unpopular 'round these parts. Heathens.

Liking bad movies tends to be unpopular indeed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 20, 2008, 10:01:41 PM
It seems that liking Hellboy 2 is unpopular 'round these parts. Heathens.
You mean the second installment in the second best superhero franchise is disliked by the majority of Filmspotting listeners?

In that case I'll be glad to be in the minority. Hellboy 2 is the best looking film of the year so far hands down. And actually funny to boot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 20, 2008, 10:07:05 PM
It seems that liking Hellboy 2 is unpopular 'round these parts. Heathens.
You mean the second installment in the second best superhero franchise is disliked by the majority of Filmspotting listeners?

In that case I'll be glad to be in the minority. Hellboy 2 is the best looking film of the year so far hands down. And actually funny to boot.

arean't you always glad to be in the minority?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 20, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
It seems that liking Hellboy 2 is unpopular 'round these parts. Heathens.
You mean the second installment in the second best superhero franchise is disliked by the majority of Filmspotting listeners?

In that case I'll be glad to be in the minority. Hellboy 2 is the best looking film of the year so far hands down. And actually funny to boot.

arean't you always glad to be in the minority?
Yes ;D

There's always less people there! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 20, 2008, 10:21:56 PM
It seems that liking Hellboy 2 is unpopular 'round these parts. Heathens.
You mean the second installment in the second best superhero franchise is disliked by the majority of Filmspotting listeners?

In that case I'll be glad to be in the minority. Hellboy 2 is the best looking film of the year so far hands down. And actually funny to boot.

I can't believe I just read that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 20, 2008, 11:35:38 PM
I liked HB II - it just wasn't...great...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on August 21, 2008, 02:24:24 AM
Having Keanu Reeves, Kevin Costner, and Ethan Hawke as co-leads in a movie would actually increase the chances that I would see it.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 21, 2008, 07:40:29 AM
Having Keanu Reeves, Kevin Costner, and Ethan Hawke as co-leads in a movie would actually increase the chances that I would see it.

pixote

 ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on August 21, 2008, 07:54:01 AM
I liked HB II - it just wasn't...great...
I second that. It's entertaining but not much of an improvement over the first one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on August 21, 2008, 12:40:18 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

If you feel the same at 40 as you did at 20, then 20 was wasted on you. 40 probably is too. I'm in my 30s and can name all kinds of things that feel different than they did at 20. Filmgoing would be high atop the list.

I will never ever change my mind ever. I never have. And never will. I still play with barbies and Nsync is still my favorite band.  ;)

Backstreet Boys were better.

No they weren't!  'Nsync's better!  They had the funk.  They had Joey Fatone... star of such indie hits like My Big Fat Greek Wedding & The Cooler

Really Spice Girls were better than any boyband. Infact I loved Spice World, and I still do. Now that's unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 21, 2008, 12:53:21 PM

Really Spice Girls were better than any boyband. Infact I loved Spice World, and I still do. Now that's unpopular.

I'd agree with that. They at least seemed like they were having fun and not taking themselves too seriously.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 21, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
40 is the new 20...

Only 40 year olds say that.

That should be telling you something.

Only 19 yr olds think that.
I feel the same as I did when I was your age - except now I'm smarter. ;)

If you feel the same at 40 as you did at 20, then 20 was wasted on you. 40 probably is too. I'm in my 30s and can name all kinds of things that feel different than they did at 20. Filmgoing would be high atop the list.

I will never ever change my mind ever. I never have. And never will. I still play with barbies and Nsync is still my favorite band.  ;)

Backstreet Boys were better.

No they weren't!  'Nsync's better!  They had the funk.  They had Joey Fatone... star of such indie hits like My Big Fat Greek Wedding & The Cooler

Really Spice Girls were better than any boyband. Infact I loved Spice World, and I still do. Now that's unpopular.

Actually. I'm right there with you. I didn't like Spice World back when it came out. I though it was stupid. Having seen it a few times in the last couple years I've come to realize just how cheesy fun it is. And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 22, 2008, 06:08:06 AM
And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.

No, Meat Loaf was in Fight Club. Which sucked.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 22, 2008, 08:21:52 AM
And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.

No, Meat Loaf was in Fight Club. Which sucked.

Well. If you don't like Fight Club at least even a bit then I don't know what to say to that statement.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on August 22, 2008, 08:59:07 AM
And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.

No, Meat Loaf was in Fight Club. Which sucked.

Meat Loaf was in Spice World as well - he drove the bus.

As I am wasting my life away - I pick these little details up.

I think he was just saying that Meat Loaf being in a movie does not automatically make it great because Fight Club apparently sucked.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on August 22, 2008, 09:06:59 AM
Yeah - you're probably right.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 22, 2008, 10:21:04 AM
And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.

No, Meat Loaf was in Fight Club. Which sucked.

Well. If you don't like Fight Club at least even a bit then I don't know what to say to that statement.

I don't know. I supposed I liked at least a little bit. But man was it overrated. And I have absolutely zero desire to read the book.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 22, 2008, 10:49:07 AM
And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.

No, Meat Loaf was in Fight Club. Which sucked.

Well. If you don't like Fight Club at least even a bit then I don't know what to say to that statement.

I don't know. I supposed I liked at least a little bit. But man was it overrated. And I have absolutely zero desire to read the book.

They're basically the same thing, with different endings.  I loved Fight Club when it came out but I find myself liking it less and less as I get older.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: spoko on August 22, 2008, 12:28:17 PM
And it has Meat Loaf in it. That automatically makes it great.

No, Meat Loaf was in Fight Club. Which sucked.

Well. If you don't like Fight Club at least even a bit then I don't know what to say to that statement.

I don't know. I supposed I liked at least a little bit. But man was it overrated. And I have absolutely zero desire to read the book.

They're basically the same thing, with different endings.  I loved Fight Club when it came out but I find myself liking it less and less as I get older.

Well, the ending was one of the worst parts of the movie. So that's not an insignificant difference.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on August 22, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
Criterion's released two Michael Bay films: Armageddon and The Rock.

Why did they do that? That's a real head scratcher.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 23, 2008, 03:03:57 AM
Because they're awesome?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 23, 2008, 08:38:28 AM
I like Alien Ressurection .
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 23, 2008, 10:15:49 AM
I like Alien Ressurection .
I semi like it. I definitely don't hate it.

That whole underwater/elevator shaft sequence is one of the best sequences of the franchise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: sdedalus on August 23, 2008, 01:52:44 PM
Criterion's released two Michael Bay films: Armageddon and The Rock.

Why did they do that? That's a real head scratcher.

To be clearer, here's an excerpt of an interview with one of Criterion's head guys, Peter Becker:

Doogan: What was up with the rumors that went around about Michael Bay pulling a bit of clout to get the Armageddon disc out from Criterion.

Becker: Armageddon was actually an extremely easy, straightforward thing. The back-story on the whole Disney working relations has been very smooth. It was very smooth all through our laser life -- I think we did about 16 or 17 titles on laser with Disney and Miramax. Among those was The Rock. When The Rock came up the first time, that was going to be a monstrous amount of work, and we approached it with a little bit of trepidation. Michael really wanted to see it happen and so we said, "okay, let's do it." We hadn't done a major action film like that before... well, we had done non-traditional action films...

Doogan: Like Spartacus. Sparacus is kind of an action film. An epic, historical, spear-through-the-belly action film, but an action film none-the-less.

Becker: Not really though, I mean only in the same way that Henry V or Passion of Joan of Arc is an action film. What Michael does is a very specific, very current, modern brand of adrenal entertainment, and we'd never really done a movie like that before, and we didn't really know how to approach it at first. We started to realize that we had to approach it on its own terms. I don't know if you remember The Rock LD box, but inside the insert, there was a quote from Jerry Bruckheimer that basically said that there's a difference between a megablockbuster and other kinds of film. A movie like that comes out swinging for the fences. It's a whole other style of filmmaking, and it was interesting for us. We approached it with, like I said, a bit of trepidation.

Doogan: Were you guys fans enough of The Rock that you consider it a modern day classic?

Becker: We are. Honestly, within the staff, we had mixed opinions. That's often the way it is with modern stuff that we do with current films. It's much harder to argue about the merits of a film when it just comes out in the theaters, than it is 40 years later, after it's stood the test of time. It's a lot easier to argue the merits of Seven Samurai now than it probably was in the 50's.

More can be found here (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/criterionpb.html).
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on August 31, 2008, 04:42:02 PM
Jeff Bridges' performance in Fearless is smarmy. That means I didn't like it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 31, 2008, 06:10:42 PM
Anthony Hopkins is good, but not that good.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on August 31, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
Anthony Hopkins is good, but not that good.

I'd say he's a pretty hammy actor most of the time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on August 31, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
Anthony Hopkins is good, but not that good.

I'd say he's a pretty hammy actor most of the time.

I wouldn't say that he's hammy most of the time, but I think he gets buy because of his voice and accent, which are both cool. I don't think he has all that much range however.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sheepboy on August 31, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
Where to begin? I'm sure we all have a fair share of unpopular opinions.

1.) I think Nicholas Cage get's unfair amount of hate. There is no denying the man has been in a lot of junk (Wickerman turned into the greatest accidental comedy of last year) however when he has a competent director and great script, I find him quite an engaging performer. Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Weatherman, Lord of War & Matchstick Men from the top of my head are all good to great performances. Shame his filmography is so inconsistent.

2.) I know Wes Anderson has his fair share of detractors but I propose Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou slightly edges out Rushmore as his best work. A flawed but superb film. Largely carried by Murray's trademark dry humour and a hugely imaginative script.

3.) As much as I truly adore Goodfellas I think Scorsese trumped it with Casino. Sure perhaps it doesn't have the replayibility like the former but I think by a whisker is my favourite out of the two films.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on August 31, 2008, 09:40:43 PM
1.) I think Nicholas Cage get's unfair amount of hate. There is no denying the man has been in a lot of junk (Wickerman turned into the greatest accidental comedy of last year) however when he has a competent director and great script, I find him quite an engaging performer. Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Weatherman, Lord of War & Matchstick Men from the top of my head are all good to great performances. Shame his filmography is so inconsistent.

Agreement!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 31, 2008, 09:56:21 PM
1.) I think Nicholas Cage get's unfair amount of hate. There is no denying the man has been in a lot of junk (Wickerman turned into the greatest accidental comedy of last year) however when he has a competent director and great script, I find him quite an engaging performer. Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Weatherman, Lord of War & Matchstick Men from the top of my head are all good to great performances. Shame his filmography is so inconsistent.

Agreement!
I think he's great as a badguy. But if they want me to feel sympathy towards him he fails to be sympathetic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sheepboy on August 31, 2008, 10:25:54 PM
Quote
I think he's great as a badguy. But if they want me to feel sympathy towards him he fails to be sympathetic.

I'm struggling to remember a film Cage was a straight up villain. I mean there was Face/Off which for the first half he was a villain and I guess he was quite an unsympathetic character in Lord of War and to a lesser degree Matchstick Men, but certainly nothing recently where I would claim he played a 'bad guy'.

I thought Weatherman in particular was a great role for him. This character that’s seen his home and personal life go down the gutter and is earnestly trying to rectify it, unfortunately putting his effort in the wrong places leading to a worse situation. Though from what I can understand he seems to be quite a polarising performer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on September 01, 2008, 12:29:16 AM
1.) I think Nicholas Cage get's unfair amount of hate. There is no denying the man has been in a lot of junk (Wickerman turned into the greatest accidental comedy of last year) however when he has a competent director and great script, I find him quite an engaging performer. Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Weatherman, Lord of War & Matchstick Men from the top of my head are all good to great performances. Shame his filmography is so inconsistent.

Agreement!
I think he's great as a badguy. But if they want me to feel sympathy towards him he fails to be sympathetic.

I almost always like him in comedies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on September 01, 2008, 12:32:37 AM
1.) I think Nicholas Cage get's unfair amount of hate. There is no denying the man has been in a lot of junk (Wickerman turned into the greatest accidental comedy of last year) however when he has a competent director and great script, I find him quite an engaging performer. Leaving Las Vegas, Adaptation, Weatherman, Lord of War & Matchstick Men from the top of my head are all good to great performances. Shame his filmography is so inconsistent.

Agreement!
I think he's great as a badguy. But if they want me to feel sympathy towards him he fails to be sympathetic.

I almost always like him in comedies.
My favorite Cage comedies are Con Air and Face/Off. Oh, and that 3 min. Wicker Man montage that's on YouTube.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: StarCarly on September 04, 2008, 08:49:51 PM
Zach Braff is a really great actor.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on September 05, 2008, 08:30:19 AM
garden state is kind of a nice movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on September 05, 2008, 10:13:18 AM
garden state is kind of a nice movie.

for a contrary opinion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2394.0) (yet to be completed)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Mandrake on September 05, 2008, 10:24:04 AM
garden state is kind of a nice movie.

for a contrary opinion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2394.0) (yet to be completed)

Wow, I will read your review, but were you on Meth at the time?  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on September 05, 2008, 03:19:56 PM
garden state is kind of a nice movie.

I thought it was a great movie.  Portman made that movie for me.  With her cute smile, dazzling personality, and her blah-blah-blah-ah! 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on September 05, 2008, 07:26:12 PM
I hate her for pushing the Shins down my throat.

Hate her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: pixote on September 05, 2008, 07:31:18 PM
I hate her for pushing the Shins down my throat.

Hate her.

Ah, so that song did change your life.


This has been another installment of pixote's Generic Joke of the Week.

pixote
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on September 05, 2008, 07:36:38 PM
I hate her for pushing the Shins down my throat.

Hate her.

I saw that scene as Braff pushing The Shins down my throat. She's just an actress, man ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on September 05, 2008, 07:40:18 PM
Next you're going to tell me that Jake Gyllenhaal isn't a gay cowboy...

*snort*

 lol....
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on September 05, 2008, 07:45:17 PM
pineapple express is the best of the "apatow films". and it's not awesome.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on September 06, 2008, 08:31:47 PM
Shane Meadows isn't anything special.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Basil on September 07, 2008, 02:48:47 AM
Shane Meadows isn't anything special.

Truth.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on September 07, 2008, 11:28:49 AM
Wall-E is great, but not quite as good as all the extreme loving it has been receiving. Ratatouille, The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, and both Toy Story films were all better. Not by much, but still, better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on September 07, 2008, 12:32:51 PM
The Road Warrior is so much better than Die Hard.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on September 07, 2008, 12:57:24 PM
It is, but Die Hard is still great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: skjerva on September 07, 2008, 12:59:43 PM
The Road Warrior is so much better than Die Hard.

that was my initial reaction, but i think you might be wrong (because i realized i probably was)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on September 07, 2008, 01:14:43 PM
The Road Warrior is so much better than Die Hard.

that was my initial reaction, but i think you might be wrong (because i realized i probably was)

Not a contest for me. And as far as 80s action movies go, I'd still take Commando, Robocop, Predator, The Terminator and First Blood over Die Hard.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on September 07, 2008, 03:56:43 PM
The Road Warrior is so much better than Die Hard.

that was my initial reaction, but i think you might be wrong (because i realized i probably was)

Not a contest for me. And as far as 80s action movies go, I'd still take Commando, Robocop, Predator, The Terminator and First Blood over Die Hard.

I never liked Die Hard all that much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Colleen on September 07, 2008, 04:22:37 PM
The Road Warrior is so much better than Die Hard.

Maybe from an artistic perspective but I know which movie I watched once, said that was okay and have never been interested in watching again....and which one I've watched repeatedly over the years. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on September 07, 2008, 04:36:09 PM
The Road Warrior is so much better than Die Hard.

Maybe from an artistic perspective but I know which movie I watched once, said that was okay and have never been interested in watching again....and which one I've watched repeatedly over the years. 

That is my criteria as well :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on September 07, 2008, 05:28:33 PM
Hmmmmm...

So now Die Hard isn't really thaaaaaat great? What happened. This board confusles me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on September 07, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
It's all because Road Warrior is that good. Think about what that means for BTTF ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on September 07, 2008, 05:57:02 PM
It's all because Road Warrior is that good. Think about what that means for BTTF ;)

For the record:

BTTF > Road Warrior > Die Hard

 :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on September 07, 2008, 06:23:40 PM
Now that's just wrong.
1.Road Warrior
2.Die Hard
3.BTTF

On the other hand:

1.BTTF2
2.Thunder Dome
3.Die Hard 2
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on September 07, 2008, 06:26:52 PM
1. Casablanca
2. 7 Samurai
3. The Godfather

Of course.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on September 07, 2008, 06:33:37 PM
To anyone who can name one thing wrong with Casablanca:

You have a heart made of coal.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on September 07, 2008, 07:59:16 PM
To anyone who can name one thing wrong with Casablanca:

You have a heart made of coal.


I didn't get into it myself. So if a lack of universal appeal is a fault... but I don't think it is.

I'll rewatch it one of these days.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: saltine on September 07, 2008, 08:03:29 PM
To anyone who can name one thing wrong with Casablanca:

You have a heart made of coal.


I didn't get into it myself. So if a lack of universal appeal is a fault... but I don't think it is.

I'll rewatch it one of these days.

When you fall in love HARD, watch it.  It'll work so well for you.

Wait, maybe you are in love, if so, I apologize.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: smirnoff on September 07, 2008, 09:54:24 PM
To anyone who can name one thing wrong with Casablanca:

You have a heart made of coal.


I didn't get into it myself. So if a lack of universal appeal is a fault... but I don't think it is.

I'll rewatch it one of these days.

When you fall in love HARD, watch it.  It'll work so well for you.

Wait, maybe you are in love, if so, I apologize.

Not at all. I'll try and remember your advice :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 07, 2008, 11:18:07 PM
Now that's just wrong.
1.Road Warrior
2.Die Hard
3.BTTF

On the other hand:

1.BTTF2
2.Thunder Dome
3.Die Hard 2

Isn't Road Warrior a part 2?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on September 07, 2008, 11:21:56 PM
It is. I'm just listing the sequels to the aforementioned films.
The original Mad Max is pretty fun too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Big C on September 07, 2008, 11:53:35 PM
1. Casablanca
2. 7 Samurai
3. The Godfather

Of course.

Wait... are you saying you don't like these? If so, them's fightin' words. Please explain.

And to be fair and let people get on my case, I think Breathless and La Strada are overrated. I find Breathless to be far more clumsy than Godard's other films, especially Pierrot Le Fou, which was truly original and ground breaking. I wouldn't even put La Strada in a Fellini Top 5 because everything in it is played so broad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on September 08, 2008, 09:22:48 AM
1. Casablanca
2. 7 Samurai
3. The Godfather

Of course.

Wait... are you saying you don't like these? If so, them's fightin' words. Please explain.

Just a joke. Everybody was doing the Die Hard stuff and I put the top 3 from THE LIST. That is all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: arcnyc on September 08, 2008, 10:57:30 AM
I find Breathless to be far more clumsy than Godard's other films, especially Pierrot Le Fou, which was truly original and ground breaking.

I agree with this.  Breathless may have rewritten the rules but Pierrot was the fine-tuning of that.

Also, Road Warrior had a cool approach with putting a nuclear apocalypse in between the films but I prefer the gritty, less-polished feel of the original.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Big C on September 08, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
Sorry Junior- I was a bit tipsy when I was posting last night.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on September 08, 2008, 12:42:17 PM
No worries. There wasn't much context.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Think_Long on September 08, 2008, 08:31:09 PM
Sorry Junior- I was a bit tipsy when I was posting last night.

sometimes i'm embarrassed when i remember what i have posted on previous nights
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: The Mighty Celestial on September 09, 2008, 04:06:23 PM
I really enjoyed The Dark Knight.
However......
I didn't buy Harvey Dent's transformation (that he would side with the Joker) (oh.....and spoiler alert....!)
Though she she didn't seem to fit in, I still think that Katie Holmes was better & prettier than what's-her-face.
The climax wasn't all that climatic.
The whole motorcycle scene: I always thought of the Batman to be a little ( well.... alot more) skilled than that.

While I still think it's a great movie & believe that Heath's part is Oscar-worthy, I just don't think that the movie itself is worth an Academy Award nod ( though, come to think of it, are there any films yet this year that are....?) or that it's the be-all end-all film that everyone seems to have made it out to be.


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on September 09, 2008, 05:37:50 PM
Though she she didn't seem to fit in, I still think that Katie Holmes was better & prettier than what's-her-face.
I've been wondering if it was really worth switching actresses for half a picture. Granted, she does better than Holmes and the role is probably more demanding this time around but I tend to find recasting very distracting and I'm not sure if a handful of scenes was quite enough for me to get used to Gyllenhaal.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on September 09, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
Though she she didn't seem to fit in, I still think that Katie Holmes was better & prettier than what's-her-face.
I've been wondering if it was really worth switching actresses for half a picture. Granted, she does better than Holmes and the role is probably more demanding this time around but I tend to find recasting very distracting and I'm not sure if a handful of scenes was quite enough for me to get used to Gyllenhaal.

Wasn't Holmes replaced because she didn't want to be in the movie? I'm pretty sure that's what I've heard was the reasoning.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on September 09, 2008, 08:07:19 PM
You're right, "Scheduling conflicts" was the official reasoning. I always thought they replaced her because she wasn't all that popular but apparently she realized that herself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on September 09, 2008, 08:10:52 PM
You're right, "Scheduling conflicts" was the official reasoning. I always thought they replaced her because she wasn't all that popular but apparently she realized that herself.

I believe "scheduling conflicts" is the code word for "Scientology conflicts".
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: The Mighty Celestial on September 09, 2008, 10:45:13 PM
I failed scientology when I was in high school.
I was always better at things like gym an' stuff.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: J5er on September 09, 2008, 11:53:09 PM
Weren't the "scheduling conflicts" Holmes filming that awful movie "Mad Money" ?  If that's the case, missing out of TDK for that lame movie is kind of humorous. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on October 23, 2008, 11:55:21 PM
As far as Hollywood satire goes, I'll take Bowfinger over The Player any day.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 24, 2008, 12:48:49 AM
As far as Hollywood satire goes, I'll take Bowfinger over The Player any day.

They're both bad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 24, 2008, 07:34:44 AM
As far as Hollywood satire goes, I'll take Bowfinger over The Player any day.
Funny, I was going to see The PlayerTuesday but I couldn't find my car keys (the ended up being hung by the back door :P) until it was too late.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on October 24, 2008, 07:55:46 AM
The Temple of Doom is better than Raiders of the Lost Ark
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: The Mighty Celestial on October 24, 2008, 07:59:12 AM
The Temple of Doom is better than Raiders of the Lost Ark
While I don't share that opinion,
I do have an Indiana Jones-related unpopular opinion in that I believe that Temple Of Doom is better than the Last Crusade.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 24, 2008, 10:16:34 AM
The Temple of Doom is better than Raiders of the Lost Ark
While I don't share that opinion,
I do have an Indiana Jones-related unpopular opinion in that I believe that Temple Of Doom is better than the Last Crusade.

A lot of people argue over which sequel is better. But Temple is not better than Raiders. Not at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on October 24, 2008, 11:46:06 AM
I'm glad I don't have to keep reviving this thread :)

Keep it going!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 11:49:02 AM
I've always held the unpopular opinion that The Last Crusade is far better than Temple and a bit better than Raiders. Continuing the Lucas front I've also always held the unpopular opinion that Star Wars is easily the worst of all the SW movies, and when taken on its own and not supported by the existence of all the sequels/prequels isn't that good of a movie and certainly isn't worthy of all the great praise that it gets.

Finally, I can't stand Christopher Nolan, he's an overrated hack. Outside of Insomnia and The Dark Knight, which were both good but not great movies, he's made nothing but garbage. Batman Begins and The Prestige were complete trash, while Memento was an interesting idea but not a good movie overall. Two good movies, one halfway decent one and tow completely horrendous ones do not make a good director in any way. I do realize this is a very unpopular opinion, but count me out of the Nolan kool-aid.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on October 24, 2008, 11:52:47 AM
Temple is a borderline bad movie. The other 2 (Crystal Skull doesn't count) are both five stars.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 11:57:57 AM
Temple is a bad movie, Crystal Skull is an even worse movie. I think Raiders is a good movie but it's not a great movie like Crusade because it has more faults and doesn't work as well as Crusade does.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 24, 2008, 12:01:25 PM
Raiders is beyond a great movie. It's practically a 6 star movie. As for Star Wars. Why are you so wrong about so many things? Star Wars is incredible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 12:02:55 PM
Star Wars is a boring exposition piece that is only held together by the interesting characters and the few fun moments it contains. Luckily in the following movies they would realize how to make great cinema as opposed to borderline good cinema.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on October 24, 2008, 12:03:39 PM
Crusade is basically a ripping off Raiders storywise, is pretty silly at times and the whole father=grail thing lacks subtlety.
I'm not saying I don't enjoy it but it would be nothing without Raiders and all the sillyness bugs me at times. Plus, the effects are really bad. It can't hold a candle to the original.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on October 24, 2008, 12:04:58 PM
Star Wars is a boring exposition piece that is only held together by the interesting characters and the few fun moments it contains. Luckily in the following movies they would realize how to make great cinema as opposed to borderline good cinema.

I have a hard time getting worked up about people not liking Star Wars because it's definitely got its problems.  I still prefer A New Hope to Jedi, but Empire is far and away the best.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 12:05:50 PM
Saying it would be nothing without Raiders is really, really wrong. Raiders would be nothing without 30's-40's-50's pulps, and neither would Crusade. Raiders wasn't any sort of special movie when it came to storytelling, and neither is Crusade for that matter. The entire Indy series is about one thing, fun and a light plot, and out of them all I felt Crusade was the most fun with the best plot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on October 24, 2008, 12:10:41 PM
Crusade is basically a ripping off Raiders storywise, is pretty silly at times and the whole father=grail thing lacks subtlety.
I'm not saying I don't enjoy it but it would be nothing without Raiders and all the sillyness bugs me at times. Plus, the effects are really bad. It can't hold a candle to the original.

What he said.

Plus Karen Allen is the best of the love interests. It's a crime what they did to her in 4.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on October 24, 2008, 12:11:08 PM
Oh, don't give me that, we all know the origin of Indy. If you want to go down that road, you could really take apart any movie. What I meant to imply is that Crusade is actually pretty lazy material elevated by good direction and acting. It's a pretty conventional sequel whereas Temple at least tried be different.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Thor on October 24, 2008, 12:11:36 PM
At this point, I'd like to inject some levity into proceedings.

George Lucas should never be let near another movie script. He should be banned from working in the industry. For that matter, he should never be allowed to even see another movie. He is the anti-midas, everything he touches turns to pure crap.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Eileen on October 24, 2008, 12:11:55 PM
Samurai films are usually boring.

----------------

I realize the subjective nature of this particular board, but in my universe Raiders is a near-perfect adventure flick, Prestige is a very entertaining and satisfying film, all of Christopher Nolan's films are worth watching, and Star Wars is an effective introduction to a great alternate universe.  I recognize that not everybody will agree on what they find enjoyable (for instance, my husband is all about samurai films), but I really thought Raiders and Star Wars were entry-level gimme films for people who like to have a good time at the movies every once in a while.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 12:19:57 PM
Oh, don't give me that, we all know the origin of Indy. If you want to go down that road, you could really take apart any movie. What I meant to imply is that Crusade is actually pretty lazy material elevated by good direction and acting. It's a pretty conventional sequel whereas Temple at least tried be different.

What I'm saying is that the exact same is true of Raiders. The material in Raiders isn't great, but it's very fun, full of action, and features some good acting. What sets Crusade apart is that the material in Crusade is a bit better than Raiders, the acting is better, the action is better, everything is just a bit better. Temple tried to be different by being complete crap and featuring horrendous acting and way over the top action sequences that don't even work within the usually over the top Indy universe.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Eileen on October 24, 2008, 12:26:31 PM
What I'm saying is that the exact same is true of Raiders. The material in Raiders isn't great, but it's very fun, full of action, and features some good acting. What sets Crusade apart is that the material in Crusade is a bit better than Raiders, the acting is better, the action is better, everything is just a bit better. Temple tried to be different by being complete crap and featuring horrendous acting and way over the top action sequences that don't even work within the usually over the top Indy universe.

What would the standard be for great pulp material if Raiders isn't great?  I really like Crusade, but I think that it is dependent on the character work established so well in Raiders.  I think the characters in Raiders are more fully fleshed.  Do you want to compare Bellocq against any of the Crusade villains?  Isn't Alfred Molina a better henchman than anyone in Crusade?  And that's a tiny part!  Also, I think if you compare Denholm Elliot in both films you'll find that he was a believeable character in the first film and a caricature in the third.  They took short-cuts in the third film, and were able to do that because the first film so brilliantly established their central character and his universe. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on October 24, 2008, 12:28:32 PM
Needless to say I disagree, maybe they just "improved" it too much for my liking ;)
I won't step up to defend Temple either, because I wouldn't know how. All I'm saying is that I appreciate the change of tone and the risk they took with that. And that's not what they did with Crusade.
What would the standard be for great pulp material if Raiders isn't great?  I really like Crusade, but I think that it is dependent on the character work established so well in Raiders.  I think the characters in Raiders are more fully fleshed.  Do you want to compare Bellocq against any of the Crusade villains?  Isn't Alfred Molina a better henchman than anyone in Crusade?  And that's a tiny part!  Also, I think if you compare Denholm Elliot in both films you'll find that he was a believeable character in the first film and a caricature in the third.  They took short-cuts in the third film, and were able to do that because the first film so brilliantly established their central character and his universe. 
And boy does that film lack a character like Marion Ravenwood. Oh, and Indy entering castle to look at tapestry=worst Indy-moment ever. I actually just read a summary of all the different drafts for that film and what's left of that scene really is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
No, I wouldn't agree with any of that. The standard for great pulp material was established in Crusade, because it is the only true great Indy/pulp movie. Raiders made great strides, but in the end it wasn't as great because of its faults. Belloc was fleshed out just as much as any of the villains in Crusade, heck, he was fleshed out less than the main villain in Crusade, who happened to be the girl. The henchmen in Crusade aren't meant to be known, they are supposed to be minute henchmen, so whether they were developed or not doesn't matter in the pulp storytelling style. Elliot's character in the first was a footnote, a guy who was there and nothing else. In Crusade he was given more to work with and was allowed to become more alive than he ever was in Raiders. I don't believe they took any shortcuts in the third film, outside of the fact that no, they don't have to worry about establishing characters that have already been established. However, they took those already established characters and along with new characters weaved a better movie than Raiders.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 24, 2008, 01:27:09 PM
Why are you saying these things about my beloved Raiders?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on October 24, 2008, 01:48:55 PM
Stop the madness! They're both great! Can't we all just get along? ;D

Most of Martin Scorsese's movies are overrated.
Will Ferrel is not funny. Neither is Vince Vaughn or Seth Rogen.
The Village is a good movie.

Carry on...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 24, 2008, 02:19:28 PM
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is better than both Doom and Crusade.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2008, 03:13:10 PM
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is better than both Doom and Crusade.

No, oh no, that movie was pure, unadulterated dreck.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on October 24, 2008, 03:18:36 PM
All of you are beasts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: The Mighty Celestial on October 24, 2008, 03:49:44 PM
All of you are beasts.
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I believe that all of you people are a buncha prehistoric savages.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: With fronds like these... on October 24, 2008, 04:06:07 PM
Sam Peckinpah is an over-rated misogynist hack who hasn't ever created a single likeable character.

The Star Wars series are poorly made, poorly scripted and kids' films that don't work for adults. When I meet adults who (still) rave about them, it makes me like them less.

The Village is a good film.

The Big Lebowski has some very funny scenes, but is generally a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Thor on October 24, 2008, 04:15:54 PM
Sam Peckinpah is an over-rated misogynist hack who hasn't ever created a single likeable character.

The Star Wars series are poorly made, poorly scripted and kids' films that don't work for adults. When I meet adults who (still) rave about them, it makes me like them less.

The Village is a good film.

The Big Lebowski has some very funny scenes, but is generally a bit of a mess.


I don't know, I quite like the relationship between Warren Oates and Alfredo Garcia's head. Once you see it as a male-bonding buddy-movie, it's quite adorable really.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 24, 2008, 04:17:45 PM
All of you are beasts.
666 ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Eileen on October 24, 2008, 04:19:20 PM
Sam Peckinpah is an over-rated misogynist hack who hasn't ever created a single likeable character.

The Star Wars series are poorly made, poorly scripted and kids' films that don't work for adults. When I meet adults who (still) rave about them, it makes me like them less.

The Village is a good film.

The Big Lebowski has some very funny scenes, but is generally a bit of a mess.


Aw, you don't find David Warner endearing in Straw Dogs?  OK, maybe not on his own terms, but compared to every other character...
OK, I'm going to second the Peckinpah opinion.  

The other three?  I dunno.  I don't think Lebowski is a mess, but it's been a long time since I watched it sober.  If you drink white russians steadily along with the Dude the film seems much deeper.  
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on October 25, 2008, 12:17:19 AM
Sam Peckinpah is an over-rated misogynist hack who hasn't ever created a single likeable character.

I don't think he's a hack at all, but you might be right about your other accusations.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on October 25, 2008, 07:01:28 AM
Likeable characters are boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on October 25, 2008, 08:03:10 AM
Top Gun sucks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on October 25, 2008, 09:06:40 AM
Likeable characters are boring.

So you like movies with characters you can relate to, don't ya?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 25, 2008, 11:14:25 AM
Casino Royale (2006) was NOT a bond film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on October 25, 2008, 11:16:11 AM
I saw Speed Racer the other day and I think it is great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Gjay81 on October 25, 2008, 11:22:53 AM
may have been said before, but Star Wars: A new hope, is not one of the best films ever made!!! Its pretty terrible, and not remotely exciting. The only good films in the saga are the one NOT directed by Lucas, and they are only good, not great.!!

Oh and Kevin Smith has only made 2 good films. Clerks and Clerks 2. Mallrats is baaaaddd!! And the rest are not worth any attention
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on October 25, 2008, 11:26:14 AM
Top Gun sucks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: chesterfilms on October 25, 2008, 11:43:55 AM
Oh and Kevin Smith has only made 2 0 good films.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on October 25, 2008, 11:44:59 AM
Oh and Kevin Smith has only made 2 0 good films.

 :)

It's funny because it's true.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FLYmeatwad on October 25, 2008, 11:49:38 AM
I saw Speed Racer the other day and I think it is great.

The best of May's Big 4 this year, the others do not even come close.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 25, 2008, 09:10:48 PM
Oh and Kevin Smith has only made 2 0 good films.

 :)

It's funny because it's true.

But it's not true. Clerks? Chasing Amy? I count 2. And I also really like Clerks 2. And having seen Zack and Miri already I can definitely say that one can be added to his good films list.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on October 25, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
I suppose the fact that Charlie Bartlett is better than Rushmore is unpopular, no matter how true it is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 25, 2008, 09:16:33 PM
I suppose the fact that Charlie Bartlett is better than Rushmore is unpopular, no matter how true it is.

Only if by true you mean totally not true. You're right about it being an unpopular opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on October 25, 2008, 09:17:24 PM
War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on October 25, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

Not that you can compare these two movies, but you're still wrong. And I like War of the Worlds quite a bit. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 25, 2008, 09:39:02 PM
War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

Where do you come up with this stuff?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on October 25, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I have a playful mind. Seriously: it's telling me that War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 25, 2008, 09:45:07 PM
War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I have a playful mind. Seriously: it's telling me that War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

Your mind is crazy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on October 25, 2008, 09:47:33 PM
War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I have a playful mind. Seriously: it's telling me that War of the Worlds is way better than E.T.

This from a hamster stuck in his own ice cube... stay frosty.
Your mind is crazy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 25, 2008, 09:51:35 PM
Dude. I'm not stuck in my own ice cube. Some asshole stuck me in a freezer in an attempt to send me to the future where some other asshole could thaw me out and use me to run an electric generator. But that only happens about 300 years from now so for now I'm just stuck in the cube of ice and spending my time on this forum.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on October 25, 2008, 09:55:01 PM
Sounds like a great pitch. I'll start working on the script.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on October 25, 2008, 09:58:29 PM
Dude. I'm not stuck in my own ice cube. Some asshole stuck me in a freezer in an attempt to send me to the future where some other asshole could thaw me out and use me to run an electric generator. But that only happens about 300 years from now so for now I'm just stuck in the cube of ice and spending my time on this forum.

At least you have a sweet sweater to look forward to when you get out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 25, 2008, 10:11:49 PM
Sounds like a great pitch. I'll start working on the script.

You'd have to give credit to the game Day of the Tentacle. That's where I got that story from. And yes, I know it would make an awesome movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Gjay81 on October 26, 2008, 05:03:15 AM
or demolition mouse? The much awaited sequel to Stallone's ice thawing.....errrrrrrrrrr classic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Gjay81 on October 26, 2008, 05:21:09 AM
here's a few more:

*chinatown isn't very good
*i absolutely adore the blair witch project and consider to be the scariest movie..ever
*cruel intentions is actually decent
*keanu reeves is a fantastic actor (okay, even i can't kid myself with this one)


Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on October 26, 2008, 06:51:24 AM
Blades of Glory is awesome.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 26, 2008, 11:49:58 AM
Blades of Glory is awesome.



You must be lying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Gjay81 on October 26, 2008, 12:00:16 PM
i agree with duder, its very funny. I'm a sucker for Will Ferrell despite his past bunch of films being similar. Jon Heder doesn't stand a chance being up against him here though
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 26, 2008, 01:46:31 PM
But it wasn't funny. Not at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on October 26, 2008, 01:51:02 PM
But it was.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on October 26, 2008, 01:56:24 PM
But it was.

Oh, of course. But how could I not see that before? Thanks for helping me see the light Duder.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on October 26, 2008, 01:57:25 PM
But it was.

Oh, of course. But how could I not see that before? Thanks for helping me see the light Duder.

I do what I can.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on October 26, 2008, 03:10:12 PM
But it was.

Oh, of course. But how could I not see that before? Thanks for helping me see the light Duder.

I do what I can.

I thought it was fun.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on October 26, 2008, 03:14:20 PM
I thought it was fun fine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Mandrake on October 26, 2008, 03:16:14 PM
But it was.

Oh, of course. But how could I not see that before? Thanks for helping me see the light Duder.

I do what I can.


I thought it was fun.

It's hilarious.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: mañana on October 26, 2008, 03:25:16 PM
The costumes carried it for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 26, 2008, 03:41:22 PM
But it wasn't funny. Not at all.

I thought it was quite funny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Eileen on October 26, 2008, 03:47:45 PM
But it wasn't funny. Not at all.

I thought it was quite funny.

It was funny enough, but Ferrell can't do too many more of those films before I'm done with him.  In fact, I'd venture to say that he shouldn't do any more sports comedies at all.  He has exhausted the subgenre.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on October 26, 2008, 04:02:07 PM
He should go out with a 1950s soccer film. That would be so very awesome.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on October 26, 2008, 07:54:55 PM
Blades of Glory is awesome.



I kinda liked it.  It was actually pretty good.  Will Ferrell was great.  Jon Heder was tolerable to say the least. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 27, 2008, 12:37:34 AM
Still waiting for Untitled Will Ferrell Jai-alai project to pop up on IMDB.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on October 27, 2008, 12:56:36 AM
Still waiting for Untitled Will Ferrell Jai-alai project to pop up on IMDB.
Scoops of Intensity?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on November 10, 2008, 04:10:28 PM
The idea of a remake of Oldboy by director Steven Spielberg and starring Will Smith has me curious. I'm interested.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on November 10, 2008, 06:45:10 PM
Still waiting for Untitled Will Ferrell Jai-alai project to pop up on IMDB.
Scoops of Intensity?

I don't know how I missed this but it made me laugh a lot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on November 10, 2008, 06:50:59 PM
Still waiting for Untitled Will Ferrell Jai-alai project to pop up on IMDB.
Scoops of Intensity?

I don't know how I missed this but it made me laugh a lot.
And I liked your blog post, weeeeeeee!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on November 10, 2008, 06:51:46 PM
I guess I should answer your question then...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: facedad on November 10, 2008, 06:52:18 PM
I guess I should answer your question then...
No you should, I won't hold it against you.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on November 10, 2008, 08:01:13 PM
Indiana Jones 4 was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 10, 2008, 08:19:03 PM
Indiana Jones 4 was a lot of fun.
Hell yea it was! ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Thor on November 11, 2008, 09:54:01 PM
Indiana Jones 4 was a lot of fun.

I'd agree with that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on November 11, 2008, 10:51:46 PM
I think is an unpopular opinion and is rated as one of the worst films ever but... I really, really, really, really dig...(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bb/ThePestMoviePoster.jpg/200px-ThePestMoviePoster.jpg)

That's right dammit!!! 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on November 12, 2008, 07:16:40 AM
Oh, wow, I'm sari for you :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on December 08, 2008, 10:19:20 AM
Jurassic Park 3 > Jurassic Park 2.

Neither spectacular nor that unpopular but as long as it revives this thread...
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 08, 2008, 10:32:48 AM
Jurassic Park 3 > Jurassic Park 2.

Neither spectacular nor that unpopular but as long as it revives this thread...

actually I thought that was prevailing thought on the subject?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Tequila on December 08, 2008, 10:39:18 AM
Not according to IMDB it isn't. But I think people mostly don't care anyway.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on December 08, 2008, 10:48:00 AM
You are right, Tequila, on all counts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on December 08, 2008, 11:36:33 AM
Jurassic Park 3 was a disaster. At least 2 tried to do something new.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on December 08, 2008, 11:37:25 AM
But the big dinosaur ate the phone! And then you could hear it ring in its stomach!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 08, 2008, 11:44:58 AM
Jurassic Park 3 was a disaster. At least 2 tried to do something new.

Sad attempts at gymnastics do not count.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on December 08, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
Jurassic Park 3 was a disaster. At least 2 tried to do something new.

Indeed, ripping off "King Kong" is quite the innovation.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: e_e on December 08, 2008, 05:15:52 PM
Cars > Toy Story
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: roujin on December 08, 2008, 05:18:13 PM
Dead Man's Shoes sucks :(

 :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on December 08, 2008, 05:19:45 PM
you misspelled sucks...

It's R-O-C-K-S, as in "Dead Man's Shoes rocks the house.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on December 08, 2008, 05:20:24 PM
Jurassic Park 3 was a disaster. At least 2 tried to do something new.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on December 08, 2008, 05:47:29 PM
Last I checked with my dubious sources Halle Barry was still a stellar actress.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 08, 2008, 06:21:08 PM
Last I checked with my dubious sources Halle Barry was still a stellar actress.

esp with a blade and a bikini top.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sheepboy on December 09, 2008, 04:43:29 AM
(http://www.koreanblog.com/attach/1579/1107745514608.jpg)

Punch Drunk Love even with absolutely stellar films like Magnolia, There will be Blood and Boogie Nights remains my favourite Paul Thomas Anderson film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on December 09, 2008, 09:11:35 AM
(http://www.koreanblog.com/attach/1579/1107745514608.jpg)

Punch Drunk Love even with absolutely stellar films like Magnolia, There will be Blood and Boogie Nights remains my favourite Paul Thomas Anderson film.

There's plenty of PDL love around these parts.  It might just be my second favorite PTA, and I'm a man who hates Sandler.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FifthCityMuse on December 09, 2008, 05:20:19 PM
I think I need a second viewing...

That said, it's still very good. Very good indeed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FLYmeatwad on January 04, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
I posted here before, I don't remember what I wrote. Here are a few things that very few people will agree with. If you agree with everything I write, congrats I suppose?

1. I've seen every Pixar movie except Cars. None except Toy Story are great. The Incredibles is the worst Pixar movie I've ever seen and one of the least enjoyable animated films I've ever seen.

2. It's slightly more enjoyable than The Iron Giant, but not by much.

3. Johnny Deep was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and it's just as enjoyable, if not better, than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

4. Both are better than R. Kelly's CD Chocolate Factory.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FifthCityMuse on January 04, 2009, 08:57:13 PM
3. Johnny Deep was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and it's just as enjoyable, if not better, than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

I don't know about the others, but you're pretty spot on with this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on January 04, 2009, 09:15:04 PM
I posted here before, I don't remember what I wrote. Here are a few things that very few people will agree with. If you agree with everything I write, congrats I suppose?

1. I've seen every Pixar movie except Cars. None except Toy Story are great. The Incredibles is the worst Pixar movie I've ever seen and one of the least enjoyable animated films I've ever seen.

2. It's slightly more enjoyable than The Iron Giant, but not by much.

3. Johnny Deep was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and it's just as enjoyable, if not better, than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

For the record, I am now shunning you. You are being shunned, by me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 04, 2009, 09:16:24 PM
3. Johnny Deep was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and it's just as enjoyable, if not better, than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

I don't know about the others, but you're pretty spot on with this.

Yes. They are very different films and I enjoy them both differently.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FLYmeatwad on January 04, 2009, 09:18:51 PM
I posted here before, I don't remember what I wrote. Here are a few things that very few people will agree with. If you agree with everything I write, congrats I suppose?

1. I've seen every Pixar movie except Cars. None except Toy Story are great. The Incredibles is the worst Pixar movie I've ever seen and one of the least enjoyable animated films I've ever seen.

2. It's slightly more enjoyable than The Iron Giant, but not by much.

3. Johnny Deep was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and it's just as enjoyable, if not better, than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

For the record, I am now shunning you. You are being shunned, by me.

I expected at least one response in a similar fashion. Fair enough.

3. Johnny Deep was great in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and it's just as enjoyable, if not better, than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

I don't know about the others, but you're pretty spot on with this.

Yes. They are very different films and I enjoy them both differently.

I can get behind that, well put Junior.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sheepboy on January 04, 2009, 09:19:50 PM
Pride and Glory was one of the better cop/crime drams released last year.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 04, 2009, 09:21:49 PM
I said this in my review, but I'll say it again here for posterity's sake.

State of Grace is better than Goodfellas. And City of God is better than State of Grace. And that is the modern gangster movie order. The Departed is in there before Goodfellas somewhere.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FLYmeatwad on January 04, 2009, 09:25:55 PM
I said this in my review, but I'll say it again here for posterity's sake.

State of Grace is better than Goodfellas. And City of God is better than State of Grace. And that is the modern gangster movie order. The Departed is in there before Goodfellas somewhere.

Before as in better than Goodfellas, or worse?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sheepboy on January 04, 2009, 09:26:17 PM
The Departed is in there before Goodfellas somewhere.

So then where does the superior original, Infernal Affairs fit in?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: duder on January 04, 2009, 09:27:06 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/o77ipd.jpg)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 04, 2009, 09:28:46 PM
I said this in my review, but I'll say it again here for posterity's sake.

State of Grace is better than Goodfellas. And City of God is better than State of Grace. And that is the modern gangster movie order. The Departed is in there before Goodfellas somewhere.

Before as in better than Goodfellas, or worse?

Better than.

The Departed is in there before Goodfellas somewhere.

So then where does the superior original, Infernal Affairs fit in?

It doesn't. Only movies in English count.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FLYmeatwad on January 04, 2009, 09:30:19 PM
I said this in my review, but I'll say it again here for posterity's sake.

State of Grace is better than Goodfellas. And City of God is better than State of Grace. And that is the modern gangster movie order. The Departed is in there before Goodfellas somewhere.

Before as in better than Goodfellas, or worse?

Better than.


I've never seen Goodfellas, but I really like The Departed. I really like Infernal Affairs too. I own both on DVD.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on January 04, 2009, 11:00:14 PM
Jurassic Park 3 > Jurassic Park 2.

Neither spectacular nor that unpopular but as long as it revives this thread...
I'll take it a step further:

Jurassic Park 2 > Jurassic Park

I always thought Jurassic Park was always a tad bit on the slow side and those damn kids were freakin' annoying. It's also kinda got this sappy thing going on with the kids that just makes me cringe at parts. 2 is a faster paced, slicker film that only has on kid that isn't annoying. Plus it has some really interesting supporting characters throughout. The hunter in particular is a favorite.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on January 04, 2009, 11:40:31 PM
Jurassic Park 2 > Jurassic Park

Add another on my to shun list. ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Kevin Shields on January 05, 2009, 12:03:56 AM
I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion but it's from a scene from a very unpopular film:  Rush Hour 3

As much as I hated that film, I really, really, really did enjoy Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan singing "The Closer I Get To You".  Jackie can sing. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 05, 2009, 05:40:09 PM
I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion but it's from a scene from a very unpopular film:  Rush Hour 3

As much as I hated that film, I really, really, really did enjoy Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan singing "The Closer I Get To You".  Jackie can sing. 

Oh my gosh, thank god there was someone else who liked that scene. Jackie's singing is adorable!  :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 'Noke on January 13, 2009, 11:21:21 AM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 13, 2009, 12:34:46 PM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars.

My boyfriend would be sad that you dislike Satr Wars.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on January 13, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

Star Wars I'm less a fan of, although I would defend in for its use of special effects. Very impressive in 1977, in addition to the fact that it spawned a few Lucas companies that specialize in effects today.

Schlinder's List
... Now I'm shaking my head.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 13, 2009, 12:55:04 PM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

I quite liked Mean Girls and was taken by Schindler's List. I'm a bit odd when it comes to Star Wars, in that I love the franchise as a whole, but I loathe the first movie, Star Wars, and find it boring, nor do I find it compelling in any way.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on January 13, 2009, 01:18:39 PM
I didn't like Apocalypse, Now and Saving Private Ryan was overrated. There I said it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on January 13, 2009, 01:26:39 PM
I didn't like Apocalypse, Now and Band of Brothers was overrated. There I said it.

I've never watched Band of Brothers. I do very much like Apocalypse Now however. That's twice today that my favorite war films have taken a beating. Oof!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Solid Blake on January 13, 2009, 01:46:16 PM
...Band of Brothers was overrated. There I said it.

Blasphemy!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on January 13, 2009, 01:51:42 PM
I didn't like Apocalypse, Now

Even though it's the best movie ever made?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: m_rturnage on January 13, 2009, 01:59:06 PM
I didn't like Apocalypse, Now and Band of Brothers was overrated. There I said it.

I'm with you on the first half of the sentence, but STRONGLY disagree with on the back half.

Band of Brothers is worth it alone for the interviews with vets. War stays with a person forever. It affects their children and their children's children. The interviews helped show that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 13, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
I didn't like Apocalypse, Now and Band of Brothers was overrated. There I said it.

I'm with you on the first half of the sentence, but STRONGLY disagree with on the back half.

Band of Brothers is worth it alone for the interviews with vets. War stays with a person forever. It affects their children and their children's children. The interviews helped show that.

That's the first time I've ever seen you make a serious post, m_rturnage!  ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on January 13, 2009, 02:17:39 PM
I didn't like Apocalypse, Now and Band of Brothers was overrated. There I said it.

I'm with you on the first half of the sentence, but STRONGLY disagree with on the back half.

Band of Brothers is worth it alone for the interviews with vets. War stays with a person forever. It affects their children and their children's children. The interviews helped show that.

That's the first time I've ever seen you make a serious post, m_rturnage!  ;D

Everybody calm down I wrote that post quickly and meant to say Saving Private Ryan. You can't blame me for getting them mixed up.

That statement took effect fast.

Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on January 13, 2009, 02:50:40 PM
Well. You're wrong about Saving Private Ryan, but then I seem to be in the minority here who think it's a great film. You're still very very wrong about Apocalypse Now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 'Noke on January 13, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

Star Wars I'm less a fan of, although I would defend in for its use of special effects. Very impressive in 1977, in addition to the fact that it spawned a few Lucas companies that specialize in effects today.


yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on January 13, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
Well. You're wrong about Saving Private Ryan, but then I seem to be in the minority here who think it's a great film. You're still very very wrong about Apocalypse Now.

Well this is the thread for unpopular movie opinions. It's sort of the point.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 13, 2009, 03:06:00 PM
yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.

Not a sci-fi fan?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 'Noke on January 13, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.

Not a sci-fi fan?

I love scifi. 2001, blade runner, children of men. I love it. But i never really liked star wars.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 13, 2009, 03:19:26 PM
yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.

Not a sci-fi fan?

I love scifi. 2001, blade runner, children of men.

Ooh, good choices.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 'Noke on January 13, 2009, 03:36:04 PM
yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.

Not a sci-fi fan?

I love scifi. 2001, blade runner, children of men.

Ooh, good choices.  :)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 13, 2009, 03:43:43 PM
Well. You're wrong about Saving Private Ryan,

Hey, we agree.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Marbe on January 13, 2009, 06:46:07 PM
Well. You're wrong about Saving Private Ryan,

Hey, we agree.  :)

Beyond being visually awesome. I found the plot cliched, and the dialogue atificial. It's a film that strives to be brutally realistic but never breaks the mold character wise. One nerd. One philospher. One maniac. One hick. Blah, blah blah. In that way Band of Brothers is superior, it didn't feel like the writers were trying to fill the expected stereotypes of a war movie.

Still Jeremy Davies was fantastic.

I just didn't love it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 13, 2009, 06:49:13 PM
Still Jeremy Davies was fantastic.

When is he NOT fantastic?  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on January 13, 2009, 06:50:11 PM
Still Jeremy Davies was fantastic.

When is he NOT fantastic?  ;)

He's even fantastic on Lost.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 13, 2009, 06:51:21 PM
Still Jeremy Davies was fantastic.

When is he NOT fantastic?  ;)

He's even fantastic on Lost.

Exactly my point.  ;D
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: 'Noke on January 14, 2009, 05:20:46 AM
I saw saving private ryan so long ago that i will withhold comment.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on January 14, 2009, 07:38:27 AM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

Star Wars I'm less a fan of, although I would defend in for its use of special effects. Very impressive in 1977, in addition to the fact that it spawned a few Lucas companies that specialize in effects today.


yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.


A long, long time ago, in a theater far, far away this filmspotter was 11. I can forgive the horrendous dialogue and the cliched plot because that film swept me away to distant galaxies and showed me the awesome power of film.
I can still remember sitting there as those huge words scrolled across the screen, realizing that film was so more than just sitting in the dark watching a movie.
I have been chasing that feeling ever since.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 14, 2009, 11:17:59 AM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

Star Wars I'm less a fan of, although I would defend in for its use of special effects. Very impressive in 1977, in addition to the fact that it spawned a few Lucas companies that specialize in effects today.


yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.


A long, long time ago, in a theater far, far away this filmspotter was 11. I can forgive the horrendous dialogue and the cliched plot because that film swept me away to distant galaxies and showed me the awesome power of film.
I can still remember sitting there as those huge words scrolled across the screen, realizing that film was so more than just sitting in the dark watching a movie.
I have been chasing that feeling ever since.

Yes, but it's not a good film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on January 14, 2009, 11:33:57 AM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

Star Wars I'm less a fan of, although I would defend in for its use of special effects. Very impressive in 1977, in addition to the fact that it spawned a few Lucas companies that specialize in effects today.


yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.


A long, long time ago, in a theater far, far away this filmspotter was 11. I can forgive the horrendous dialogue and the cliched plot because that film swept me away to distant galaxies and showed me the awesome power of film.
I can still remember sitting there as those huge words scrolled across the screen, realizing that film was so more than just sitting in the dark watching a movie.
I have been chasing that feeling ever since.

Yes, but it's not a good film.

Yes, but at least its better than Hellboy 2.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 14, 2009, 11:35:21 AM
It certainly is not. I have the points to argue if you're serious about this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on January 14, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
It certainly is not. I have the points to argue if you're serious about this.

you can argue if ya want... i really don't have the energy to respond though... though I am serious... also ellipses are awesomecoolfun
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on January 14, 2009, 11:54:44 AM
Yes, but it's not a good film.

Yes, but at least its better than Hellboy 2.
Hence why Keith cannot be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 14, 2009, 12:08:10 PM
Reasons why Hellboy 2 is better than Star Wars:

1. Jeffrey Tambor
2. Ron Pearlman
3. Better costumes
4. Better action
5. Better looking
6. Actual acting
7. Even more badass sword fights
8. Screw wire-fu, try trampoline-fu
9. Wink is way cooler than Chewie
10. Giant fighting robots
11. Tooth fairies
12. Angel of Death
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on January 14, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
Reasons why Hellboy 2 is better than Star Wars:

1. Jeffrey Tambor
2. Ron Pearlman
3. Better costumes
4. Better action
5. Better looking
6. Actual acting
7. Even more badass sword fights
8. Screw wire-fu, try trampoline-fu
9. Wink is way cooler than Chewie
10. Giant fighting robots
11. Tooth fairies
12. Angel of Death

The Money Pit... that is my answer to that statement
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Sydney on January 14, 2009, 12:23:30 PM
Did we all watch the same Hellboy 2? I thought it was good... but not AMAZING.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on January 14, 2009, 12:26:54 PM
Reasons why Hellboy 2 is better than Star Wars:

1. Jeffrey Tambor
2. Ron Pearlman
3. Better costumes
4. Better action
5. Better looking
6. Actual acting
7. Even more badass sword fights
8. Screw wire-fu, try trampoline-fu
9. Wink is way cooler than Chewie
10. Giant fighting robots
11. Tooth fairies
12. Angel of Death

The Money Pit... that is my answer to that statement

Teeheehee
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on January 14, 2009, 12:29:04 PM
Did we all watch the same Hellboy 2? I thought it was good... but not AMAZING.

Junior sees everything hack boy Del Toro does through magical fantasy vision goggles which allow him to totally overlook the man inability to tell a decent story.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 14, 2009, 12:34:07 PM
Hellboy 2 had a decent stoiry, every del Toro venture has at the very least had a decent story, and is far better than Star Wars.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on January 14, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
Did we all watch the same Hellboy 2? I thought it was good... but not AMAZING.

Junior sees everything hack boy Del Toro does through magical fantasy vision goggles which allow him to totally overlook the man inability to tell a decent story.

I hope you don't mean to include Pan's Labyrinth in that. As for his other films? Yeah. Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on January 14, 2009, 12:38:21 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on January 14, 2009, 12:39:58 PM
Hellboy 2 had a decent stoiry, every del Toro venture has at the very least had a decent story, and is far better than Star Wars.

Sorry, the stories themselves are decent, GDT gets too wrapped up in his own tricks however to get them across in a decent manor.  He's a bad storyteller.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 14, 2009, 12:40:42 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.

Eh, not to be dismissive or anything, but I've never much cared for the historical value or cultural impact argument. I watch movies for me, not the value the place the end up taking in history or how much of an impact they have on society.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 14, 2009, 12:41:31 PM
Hellboy 2 had a decent stoiry, every del Toro venture has at the very least had a decent story, and is far better than Star Wars.

Sorry, the stories themselves are decent, GDT gets too wrapped up in his own tricks however to get them across in a decent manor.  He's a bad storyteller.

I don't agree, I found Pan's story to be perfect, same goes for The Devil's Backbone, and while not perfect I thought Hellboy and Hellboy II both had good stories in them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on January 14, 2009, 12:44:19 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.

Eh, not to be dismissive or anything, but I've never much cared for the historical value or cultural impact argument. I watch movies for me, not the value the place the end up taking in history or how much of an impact they have on society.

My personal taste in film differs from what I consider important pieces of work. But to appreciate the art as a whole, one NEEDS to appreciate historical and cultural impact of a film. That doesn't mean you have to like it but you cannot deny zeitgeist.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: FroHam X on January 14, 2009, 12:44:58 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.

Not to mention he's just plain wrong and Star Wars has one of the best constructed stories in film. It's simple, mythical and it's so much damn fun to watch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on January 14, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
I think schindlers list is overrated. And satr wars. And i despise mean girls.

Star Wars I'm less a fan of, although I would defend in for its use of special effects. Very impressive in 1977, in addition to the fact that it spawned a few Lucas companies that specialize in effects today.


yah thats probs my feeling on it. the fifth one is pretty good but i wasn't taken with the story.


A long, long time ago, in a theater far, far away this filmspotter was 11. I can forgive the horrendous dialogue and the cliched plot because that film swept me away to distant galaxies and showed me the awesome power of film.
I can still remember sitting there as those huge words scrolled across the screen, realizing that film was so more than just sitting in the dark watching a movie.
I have been chasing that feeling ever since.

Good Hunting.

May I suggest The Spy Who Loved Me?
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: ¡Keith! on January 14, 2009, 12:47:43 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.

Not to mention he's just plain wrong and Star Wars has one of the best constructed stories in film. It's simple, mythical and it's so much damn fun to watch.

The hampster speaks the truth.  Star Wars is taught in screenwriting classes.  Del Toro is not. (This may have lead to the post-millenial uber-ego of one George Lucas though.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: edgar00 on January 14, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.

Eh, not to be dismissive or anything, but I've never much cared for the historical value or cultural impact argument. I watch movies for me, not the value the place the end up taking in history or how much of an impact they have on society.

*swallows pride*
I think if it weren't for Star Wars, I'm uncertain you'd have the option of going goo goo ga ga over Guillermo Del Toro today.

*exhale*
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 14, 2009, 01:09:50 PM
Try as you  might - Hellboy II will never be regarded in the same manner as Star Wars.
Say what you want about the film (you are obviously too young to appreciate it's importance) but it is a landmark, ground breaking piece of work.
Yes, it has flaws but it still has historical value that Del Toro has yet to achieve.

Eh, not to be dismissive or anything, but I've never much cared for the historical value or cultural impact argument. I watch movies for me, not the value the place the end up taking in history or how much of an impact they have on society.

My personal taste in film differs from what I consider important pieces of work. But to appreciate the art as a whole, one NEEDS to appreciate historical and cultural impact of a film. That doesn't mean you have to like it but you cannot deny zeitgeist.

There's a difference to me between knowing that a film has a place in history and actually caring about a films place in history. I'm in the latter, I know that SW has a place in history, I just don't care or feel it has any bearing on how I look at film.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Melvil on January 14, 2009, 01:13:18 PM
Putting aside that Star Wars is the film most responsible for moviemaking as we know it today (because while needing to be acknowledged, I agree should not impact how it is considered as a movie), it remains one of the best examples of pure, fun storytelling. It immerses you in a universe so detailed and imaginative, and presents you with a classic and epic story of good vs. evil. What could be better?

I like Del Toro, but I consider Hellboy to be like a side project for him. Something he does to pay the bills between his real films. :-*
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on January 14, 2009, 01:24:25 PM
Something he does to pay the bills between his real films. :-*

Blade 2!
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Bill Thompson on January 14, 2009, 01:29:15 PM
Putting aside that Star Wars is the film most responsible for moviemaking as we know it today (because while needing to be acknowledged, I agree should not impact how it is considered as a movie), it remains one of the best examples of pure, fun storytelling. It immerses you in a universe so detailed and imaginative, and presents you with a classic and epic story of good vs. evil. What could be better?

Any number of movies that aren't boring, full of bad acting, terrible choreography, too dense of a plot, bad dialogue, etc.. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 14, 2009, 01:30:14 PM
I know that Star Wars is important. This does not mean that I need to like it as a film. Since the story is so simplistic and all that jazz it becomes boring. The special effects were good and I know that everything we see today is influenced somehow by Star Wars. But I like the new stuff better.

Del Toro can tell a good story (Pan's, Backbone, Hellboy (2)). It's funny that one can praise Star Wars for being simplistic and then rag on Del Toro's work. Also, Del Toro himself has stated that with Hellboy II he has combined his "real" work with his "money" work and he is very happy with the result.

If there is one thing that I can leave you with on this argument, let it be this: Star Wars is boring, Del Toro is a god.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: Junior on January 14, 2009, 01:32:14 PM
Also, I think I enjoy the fantasy of Del Toro's films over the fantasy of Star Wars. You cannot deny that Star Wars pales in the looks department to most Del Toro stuff.
Title: Re: Unpopular Movie Opinions
Post by: jbissell on January 14, 2009, 01:33:53 PM