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Title: 1990s US Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 06, 2008, 10:00:48 PM
So, we're adding a bunch of new films, as can be seen in the original 1990s Bracket thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2511.msg101900#msg101900). If you are interested in joining in on the match-ups, or have previously and plan to continue participating in them, send your ballots to pixote (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4150) in the following categories:

The Films You Would Fight to the Death for (limit to 10 films)

The Films You Really Really Think Should Stay In (unlimited)

The Films You're Leaning Towards Keeping In (unlimited)

The Films You're Leaning Towards Kicking Out (unlimited)

The Films You Really Really Want to Kick Out (unlimited)


If you have no opinion on a film or haven't seen it, simply don't vote on it. However, negative votes are very important.


The deadline is Tuesday April 8th at 8pm EST. Newcomers welcome. The only prerequisite is that you participate in our match-ups. Come on everyone. Let's decide something arbitrary!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 06, 2008, 10:02:43 PM
Complete list of eligible films to choose from:

A Brief History of Time
A Bronx Tale
A Few Good Men
A League of Their Own
Affliction
After Dark, My Sweet
Aladdin
Alien³
American Beauty
American History X
American Me
American Movie
Apollo 13
Army of Darkness
As Good As It Gets
Babe: Pig in the City
Baraka
Barton Fink
Beautiful Girls
Big Night
Black Is...Black Ain't
Bound
Boyz n the Hood
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Braveheart
Bringing Out the Dead
Brother's Keeper
Bullets Over Broadway
Carlito's Way
Casino
Chasing Amy
City of Hope
Clean, Shaven
Complaints of a Dutiful Daughter
Contact
Crooklyn
Cry-Baby
Dances With Wolves
Dark City
Darkman
Dead Man Walking
Dead Presidents
Death and the Maiden
Deconstructing Harry
Devil in a Blue Dress
Dick Tracy
Dogfight
Dogma
Donnie Brasco
Ed Wood
Edward Scissorhands
Election
Eve's Bayou
Eyes Wide Shut
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control
Fearless
Flirting with Disaster
Forrest Gump
Fresh
Gas Food Lodging
Gattaca
Go
Good Will Hunting
Groundhog Day
Hands on a Hard Body
Happiness
Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse
Heat
Henry Fool
High Art
Household Saints
Husbands and Wives
Independence Day
In the Company of Men
Jackie Brown
Jesus' Son
Joe vs. the Volcano
Jurassic Park
Kicking and Screaming
King Gimp
King of New York
King of the Hill
La Ciudad
Leaving Las Vegas
Light Sleeper
Little Odessa
Little Women
Living in Oblivion
Lone Star
Malcolm X
Mallrats
Mississippi Masala
Mother
Mr. & Mrs. Bridge
My Voyage to Italy
Natural Born Killers
Night on Earth
Nixon
Nobody's Fool
Office Space
One False Move
Out of Sight
Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills
Passion Fish
Philadelphia
Pi
Pleasantville
Poison
Pump Up the Volume
Red Rock West
Reversal of Fortune
Romeo + Juliet
Rounders
Saving Private Ryan
Schizopolis
Scream
Searching for Bobby Fischer
Sense and Sensibility
Shakespeare In Love
Short Cuts
Simple Men
Singles
Six Degrees of Separation
Sleepy Hollow
Sling Blade
Slums of Beverly Hills
Smoke
Snow Falling on Cedars
South Park
Spanking the Monkey
Speed
Starship Troopers
Strange Days
Swingers
Sydney/Hard Eight
Terminator 2
The Addiction
The Age of Innocence
The Apostle
The Bridges of Madison County
The Celluloid Closet
The Cider House Rules
The Crow
The Cruise
The Endless Summer 2
The English Patient
The Fisher King
The Fugitive
The Funeral
The Game
The Godfather Part III
The Great White Hype
The Green Mile
The Hours and Times
The Hunt for Red October
The Ice Storm
The Insider
The Iron Giant
The Joy Luck Club
The Last Seduction
The Limey
The Lion King
The Opposite of Sex
The People vs. Larry Flynt
The Player
The Rapture
The Shawshank Redemption
The Spanish Prisoner
The Truman Show
The Usual Suspects
The War Room
The Waterdance
Thelma & Louise
There's Something About Mary
Three Kings
Titanic
To Die For
Tombstone
Total Recall
Toy Story 2
Trees Lounge
Trekkies
Tremors
True Romance
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
Vanya on 42nd Street
Waiting for Guffman
Wayne's World
Welcome to the Dollhouse
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
When We Were Kings
White Hunter Black Heart
Wild at Heart
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 06, 2008, 10:18:12 PM
Note:  You're only limited to ten films (max) in the first group (Fight to the Death For).  The other categories have no limit.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Junior on April 06, 2008, 11:34:31 PM
There is a glaring omission here from 1993...

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Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: philip918 on April 07, 2008, 03:00:40 AM
So are all these films already out of contention, because if they're out, what's really the point anyway?
Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Schindler's List
Silence of the Lambs
Fight Club
Dead Man
Matrix
Se7en
Leon
LA Confidential
Unforgiven
Before Sunrise
Fargo
Miller's Crossing
Big Lebowski
The Virgin Suicides
Glengarry Glen Ross
The Crow
Trekkies
Gattaca
Waiting For Guffman
Being John Malkovich
Go
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 03:23:39 AM
So are all these films already out of contention, because if they're out, what's really the point anyway?
Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Schindler's List
Silence of the Lambs
Fight Club
Dead Man
Matrix
Se7en
Leon
LA Confidential
Unforgiven
Before Sunrise
Fargo
Miller's Crossing
Big Lebowski
The Virgin Suicides
Glengarry Glen Ross
The Crow
Trekkies
Gattaca
Waiting For Guffman
Being John Malkovich
Go

After we finish this addition to what is the first round, the next step is to go through all the losers from both halves of the first round and see which ones deserve to be resurrected. It'll be done in much the same mass participation style. So all those films might come back. For instance, there may be a virtual riot if Dead Man doesn't come back. So they aren't out, and there's still a point. Thanks for participating!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 07, 2008, 03:26:11 AM
The almost current standings are here (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2511.msg97406#msg97406).  I believe the breakdown is as follows:

Already Through to Second Round
Se7en
Fight Club
Matrix
LA Confidential
Unforgiven
Fargo
The Virgin Suicides

Defeated But Eligible for Resurrection
Goodfellas
Reservoir Dogs
Schindler's List
Silence of the Lambs
Pulp Fiction
Dead Man
Before Sunrise (lost to Se7en)
Miller's Crossing
Big Lebowski

Matchup in Progress
Glengarry Glen Ross
Being John Malkovich

Not Previously Nominated
The Crow
Trekkies
Gattaca
Waiting For Guffman
Go

French!
Leon

Can't Sleep
pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 03:32:42 AM

Not Previously Nominated
The Crow
Trekkies
Gattaca
Waiting For Guffman
Go

I read his entry too quickly. These will be added immediately to our list. If anyone wants to add them to their ballot, they can message pixote.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 02:47:56 PM
The following films have been added to the pool:

Complaints of a Dutiful Daughter
The Cruise
King Gimp
Black Is...Black Ain't

28 hours 15 minutes remaining to get your ballots into pixote.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Basil on April 07, 2008, 05:52:06 PM
Sorry if I missed its inclusion, but if Hard Eight/Sydney is currently not on the ballot, I think it deserves to be.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 06:04:54 PM
Sorry if I missed its inclusion, but if Hard Eight/Sydney is currently not on the ballot, I think it deserves to be.
Already done.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 07, 2008, 06:37:31 PM
Cool, a poll!  Just when I was entering the second stage of withdrawal.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 07:01:37 PM
23 hours 59 minutes!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 07, 2008, 07:32:46 PM
If you haven't yet received a personalized private message from me encouraging you to join in on the fun/madness, that's because I haven't eaten yet today and sending private messages is really, really draining apparently.

But that doesn't mean I don't want you to participate.  You totally should.

Nor does it mean that I don't love you.  I totally do.

I'm finished.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 07, 2008, 09:58:13 PM
Your votes are still coming in (I hope), but I'm ready to declare Forrest Gump the most divisive film of the 1990s.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Solid Blake on April 07, 2008, 10:03:18 PM
Alright, dammit... what now?  ;)
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: kypade on April 07, 2008, 10:03:42 PM
I wish this forum automatically saved sent messages somewhere. I have no idea where (if?) I put Forest Gump. :O
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 10:06:17 PM
Alright, dammit... what now?  ;)
I'm choosing to assume you're joking.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Junior on April 07, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
I strongly dislike several of you for not giving Alien3 a chance.  >:(
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 07, 2008, 10:22:56 PM
I strongly dislike several of you for not giving Alien3 a chance.  >:(
Well the ballots are staying secret because otherwise there'd probably be anger all around.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Junior on April 07, 2008, 10:27:15 PM
I can feel the hate. I would just like to say that the people who don't vote for Alien3 are crazy. But not as crazy as Alex. Nobody is that crazy.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 12:19:40 AM
19 hours left to get in ballots.

I'll let everyone know about the very end of the process. At 8PM tomorrow, we'll have our final ballot standings. All films that pass the cut for getting in are automatically in. There will then be a group of "fringe" films. These films will be both the films that just barely missed the cut plus the films that extremely few people have seen and of those people no one has been passionately against. These "fringe" films will be posted here and each person who turned in a ballot will have the option of PM me or pixote (or both if you're paranoid) with the single "fringe" film that you'd like to resurrect and have survive into the competition.

After all the resurrected films are added in the matchups will be compiled and sent out to people to get started.

If we end up with an odd number of films, after everyone gets done resurrecting films, we'll post a poll for the remaining films to pick one more to make it even.

Resurrection choices can be sent in as soon as we post the list and the deadline for those is 8PM EST Wednesday. By 9PM Wednesday, you should all have your matchups. Thanks for everyone making this enormous project possible.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 05:01:12 AM
14 hours to get your ballots in!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 08, 2008, 08:57:22 AM
Dances with Wolves beating out Starship Troopers?

The shame...the shame...Troopers one of my favorite films of the 90's...
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 08, 2008, 12:24:05 PM
Too late to add to the list? Are co-productions w/ the US allowed?

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead (US/UK)
To Die For (US/UK)

Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Basil on April 08, 2008, 01:12:11 PM
What does everyone have against The Limey?
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 01:23:11 PM
Too late to add to the list? Are co-productions w/ the US allowed?

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead (US/UK)
To Die For (US/UK)

faceboy's not around apparently, so I'm going to jump in and say yes.

If you've already voted and you've seen To Die For or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, please message me to let me now what category they belong in on your ballot.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 08, 2008, 01:33:51 PM
I wish this forum automatically saved sent messages somewhere. I have no idea where (if?) I put Forest Gump. :O

Go here:

http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=4228;sa=pmprefs

Click the first check box.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 01:38:57 PM
Go here:

http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=4228;sa=pmprefs

Click the first check box.

That link is specific to user # 4228 (aka _Keith_).  If you want to automatically save your sent messages, try this link instead.

http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ses on April 08, 2008, 02:15:51 PM
I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but what about all the movies that were already kicked out that might have won if they were pitted up against some of these movies we are throwing into the mix.  How does that play (or maybe it doesn't at all) into this new system?
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 02:22:29 PM
I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but what about all the movies that were already kicked out that might have won if they were pitted up against some of these movies we are throwing into the mix.  How does that play (or maybe it doesn't at all) into this new system?

All these new movies will be part of round one (along with the thrity-two previous matchups).  When round one is totally complete (end of the summer if interest stays high?), a yet-to-be-determined number of films will be resurrected to fight another day.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: duder on April 08, 2008, 02:25:24 PM
I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but what about all the movies that were already kicked out that might have won if they were pitted up against some of these movies we are throwing into the mix.  How does that play (or maybe it doesn't at all) into this new system?

It's the only way to be sure. (http://www.uselessmoviequotes.com/files/nukerip.wav)
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ses on April 08, 2008, 02:29:33 PM
I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but what about all the movies that were already kicked out that might have won if they were pitted up against some of these movies we are throwing into the mix.  How does that play (or maybe it doesn't at all) into this new system?

All these new movies will be part of round one (along with the thrity-two previous matchups).  When round one is totally complete (end of the summer if interest stays high?), a yet-to-be-determined number of films will be resurrected to fight another day.

pixote

It just seems that a lot of the best movies were in the first set of the match-ups and might not have been up against each other if all of these other movies would have been in the mix and therefore those films would have possibly advanced to the second round.  Do you know what I am saying?  I am not at all suggesting repairing these match-ups or anything like that.  I was just musing about how it might have been if we would have started with all these movies.  :)
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 02:32:10 PM
Yeah, we're going to have a total pool of like 180 movies ... so if, say, 10% get resurrected (I just made that number up), hopefully that will be enough to gets all the (subjectively) deserving films into the second round.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ses on April 08, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
Yeah, we're going to have a total pool of like 180 movies ... so if, say, 10% get resurrected (I just made that number up), hopefully that will be enough to gets all the (subjectively) deserving films into the second round.

pixote

Yeah, hopefully it will.  By the way, thanks for doing all of this pix.  :)
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 02:46:58 PM
Too late to add to the list? Are co-productions w/ the US allowed?

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead (US/UK)
To Die For (US/UK)

faceboy's not around apparently, so I'm going to jump in and say yes.

If you've already voted and you've seen To Die For or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, please message me to let me now what category they belong in on your ballot.

pixote
We actually discussed Rosencrantz at some point and said it was too British and not American enough, so I think I'd say we can't let it in. We already have 1 or 2 in that are co-productions that are a bit too not-American. As for To Die For, I don't know how the hell we missed it.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 02:54:19 PM
IMDb shows Rosencrantz as being co-produced by New York's PBS station... That's what I went by.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 02:56:12 PM
IMDb shows Rosencrantz as being co-produced by New York's PBS station... That's what I went by.

pixote
Yeah, but British writer/director and Roth and Oldman along with the UK co-production swings it the other way for me. Believe me, I love the film, but I don't feel right about it and feel like we decided against it earlier one at some point somewhere.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 03:07:50 PM
4 hours people, 4 hours!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 08, 2008, 03:08:42 PM
so will there be an OUS bracket at some point way down the line?
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 03:12:15 PM
so will there be an OUS bracket at some point way down the line?

In theory!

If you've already voted and you've seen To Die For or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, please message me to let me now what category it belongs in on your ballot.

Fixed.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Solid Blake on April 08, 2008, 03:28:09 PM
I have no idea what this all about.   ???
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 03:29:16 PM
so will there be an OUS bracket at some point way down the line?
We plan to cover everything!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 03:32:54 PM
I have no idea what this all about.   ???

Ah, I meant to explain that at some point.  Here's what I wrote to someone else today:

We've no doubt made this bracket thing seem more complicated than what it is, which is just a single-elimination tournament for American films from the nineties.  Two films are matched up at random, then someone volunteers to (re)watch them, post a comparison, and pick one of them to advance to the next round.

That's pretty much it.  Sixty-four films have already matched up (the results are in another thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2511.msg97406#msg97406)), but so many films were left out of consideration that it was decided to expand the pool to include a bunch of new films in the bracket.  And that's what the ballot in this thread is all about — trying to narrow down which films (of the 190+ that have been suggested) most belong in the bracket.

How am I doing?

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Solid Blake on April 08, 2008, 03:34:26 PM
Ah, ok.. now I understand.  :D

Just let me know when I have to actually do something.  :-*
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 03:38:41 PM
Just let me know when I have to actually do something.  :-*

Done!  Check your messages.

I just noticed that someone also voted "wary of commitment" in the poll.  Just so it's clear, all you'd really be volunteering to do is to watch two films sometime over the next two months, say, and post a brief comparison of them.  If all goes well, and you want to then volunteer for a second pair of films, that's just a bonus.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 03:53:16 PM
Maybe the vote was an unrelated comment. They are both interested in this endeavor and wary of commitment in life. We may have just let some poor chap get something of their chests.

Also, Blake, check your messages and vote, vote, vote!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: m_rturnage on April 08, 2008, 04:02:09 PM
Maybe the vote was an unrelated comment. They are both interested in this endeavor and wary of commitment in life. We may have just let some poor chap get something of their chests.

Also, Blake, check your messages and vote, vote, vote!

One of the wary of commitment votes was mine. And it didn't apply to this endeavor, just in general, I'm wary of commitment.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 05:54:35 PM
How much time left, face?

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wowser on April 08, 2008, 05:55:23 PM
Can I add some darn David Lynch films, glaringly omitted from the list?
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
1 hour for ballots!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wowser on April 08, 2008, 06:01:56 PM
Can I add some darn David Lynch films, glaringly omitted from the list?
What did you want to add, because only Fire Walk With Me is missing?

Exactly! Where is the complete eligible list?
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wowser on April 08, 2008, 06:40:44 PM
It's better than a whole boat load of what's already on the list. Here's a reminder of why it is infinitely better than most of the dross on the list:

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Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 06:41:41 PM
Can I add some darn David Lynch films, glaringly omitted from the list?
What did you want to add, because only Fire Walk With Me is missing?

Exactly! Where is the complete eligible list?
It's on the first page.


20 MINUTES!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 06:42:36 PM
It's better than a whole boat load of what's already on the list. Here's a reminder of why it is infinitely better than most of the dross on the list:
Don't you show me that! I OWN FIRE WALK WITH ME.

I'll put it on the main list, but it only has 20 minutes on there. We'll think about accommodations for it.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wowser on April 08, 2008, 06:45:54 PM
 :)

That was more for whoever said they didn't like it, then deleted their post  :(
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 08, 2008, 09:19:19 PM
Although the bracket is not quite finalized, please say farewell to the following films.  We hated them more than we loved them, but they're still family and they deserve our silent respect.

     As Good As It Gets
     The Cider House Rules
     Dick Tracy
     The Endless Summer 2
     Eve's Bayou
     The Godfather Part III
     The Great White Hype
     High Art
     Mallrats
     Mother
     Nobody's Fool
     One False Move
     The People vs. Larry Flynt
     The Rapture
     Slums of Beverly Hills
     Spanking the Monkey
     Speed
     Titanic

May they all rest in peace.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 08, 2008, 09:21:52 PM
Now for your final task voters: Below is the list of films that just barely missed the cut of entering the bracket. However, there is some room left to round out the pool.

Each person who turned in a ballot can now send pixote (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4150) their choices for the films they wish to save. Give us your top 3 in preferential order. For example:

1) Darkman
2) Reversal of Fortune
3) La ciudad

Keep in mind that you can vote for films based on reputation or just a desire to see them. You do not have to have seen them.

So send them in by Wednesday at 8PM EST and the absolute final pool will be matched up and sent out to each of you. Come on voters, one last private message!

And the list:
Affliction
After Dark, My Sweet
The Age of Innocence
Alien³
Babe: Pig in the City
Bound
Bram Stoker's Dracula
The Bridges of Madison County
A Brief History of Time
Bringing Out the Dead
Brother's Keeper
Carlito's Way
Casino
The Celluloid Closet
Contact
Crooklyn
The Crow
The Cruise
Cry-Baby
Dances With Wolves
Darkman
Dogma
The English Patient
Eyes Wide Shut
A Few Good Men
Flirting with Disaster
Forrest Gump
Fresh
The Funeral
Gas Food Lodging
Go
The Green Mile
Henry Fool
Household Saints
Independence Day
King of New York
King of the Hill
La Ciudad
The Last Seduction
A League of Their Own
The Limey
Little Odessa
Little Women
Mr. & Mrs. Bridge
Natural Born Killers
Nixon
The Opposite of Sex
Philadelphia
Red Rock West
Reversal of Fortune
Scream
Shakespeare In Love
Sleepy Hollow
Snow Falling on Cedars
The Spanish Prisoner
Strange Days
There's Something About Mary
Total Recall
Trees Lounge
Tremors
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
Vanya on 42nd Street
The Waterdance
White Hunter Black Heart
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 08, 2008, 11:22:31 PM
I hope many of you spend eternal damnation having Winona Ryder steal your socks.

(also just noticing that Girl, Interupted and Reality Bites both failed to make the list)
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: J5er on April 09, 2008, 12:46:20 AM
PLEASE! SAVE 'A League of Their Own' !!!  :-\
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 09, 2008, 09:52:33 AM
*snort*

I would throw it a boulder to help it sink if I could...
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Junior on April 09, 2008, 10:50:53 AM
PLEASE! SAVE 'A League of Their Own' !!!  :-\

"Well I was just wonderin' why you would throw home when we got a two-run lead. You let the tying run get on second base and we lost the lead because of you. Start using your head. That's the lump that's three feet above your ass. Are you crying? Are you crying? ARE YOU CRYING? There's no crying! THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!"
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 09, 2008, 11:12:12 AM
"Avoid the clap, Jimmy Doogan"

"That's good advice kid"
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 02:06:07 PM
chris and karlwinslow, please click here (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3427.msg102668#msg102668) and follow my directions.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: karlwinslow on April 09, 2008, 02:49:38 PM
done.

now quit badgering me.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: chris on April 09, 2008, 04:39:08 PM
done
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 07:03:11 PM
We have winners!

Addiction
Affliction
Age of Innocence
Aladdin
Alien³
American Beauty
American History X
American Me
American Movie
Apollo 13
Apostle
Army of Darkness
Babe: Pig in the City
Baraka
Barton Fink
Beautiful Girls
Big Night
Black Is...Black Ain't
Boyz n the Hood
Braveheart
Bronx Tale
Bullets Over Broadway
Casino
Chasing Amy
City of Hope
Clean, Shaven
Complaints of a Dutiful Daughter
Contact
Crooklyn
Cruise
Dark City
Dead Man Walking
Dead Presidents
Death and the Maiden
Deconstructing Harry
Devil in a Blue Dress
Dogfight
Dogma
Donnie Brasco
Ed Wood
Edward Scissorhands
Election
English Patient
Eyes Wide Shut
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control
Fearless
Fisher King
Forrest Gump
Fugitive
Game
Gas Food Lodging
Gattaca
Good Will Hunting
Groundhog Day
Hands on a Hard Body
Happiness
Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse
Heat
Hours and Times
Hunt for Red October
Husbands and Wives
Ice Storm
In the Company of Men
Insider
Iron Giant
Jackie Brown
Jesus' Son
Joe vs. the Volcano
Joy Luck Club
Jurassic Park
Kicking and Screaming
King Gimp
La Ciudad
League of Their Own
Leaving Las Vegas
Light Sleeper
Limey
Lion King
Little Odessa
Little Women
Living in Oblivion
Lone Star
Malcolm X
Mississippi Masala
My Voyage to Italy
Natural Born Killers
Night on Earth
Office Space
Out of Sight
Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills
Passion Fish
Philadelphia
Pi
Player
Pleasantville
Poison
Pump Up the Volume
Romeo + Juliet
Rounders
Saving Private Ryan
Schizopolis
Searching for Bobby Fischer
Sense and Sensibility
Shakespeare In Love
Shawshank Redemption
Short Cuts
Simple Men
Singles
Six Degrees of Separation
Sleepy Hollow
Sling Blade
Smoke
Snow Falling on Cedars
South Park
Starship Troopers
Strange Days
Swingers
Sydney/Hard Eight
Terminator 2
Thelma & Louise
Three Kings
To Die For
Tombstone
Toy Story 2
Trekkies
True Romance
Truman Show
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
Usual Suspects
Vanya on 42nd Street
Waiting For Guffman
War Room
Wayne's World
Welcome to the Dollhouse
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
When We Were Kings
Wild at Heart
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: roujin on April 09, 2008, 07:11:03 PM
I'm really regretting not putting Bringing Out The Dead at #1.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 07:11:13 PM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/e6xf7s.jpg)

After Dark, My Sweet
As Good As It Gets
Bound
Bram Stoker's Dracula
The Bridges of Madison County
A Brief History of Time
Bringing Out the Dead
Brother's Keeper
Carlito's Way
The Celluloid Closet
The Cider House Rules
The Crow
Cry-Baby
Dances With Wolves
Darkman
Dick Tracy
The Endless Summer 2
Eve's Bayou
A Few Good Men
Flirting with Disaster
Fresh
The Funeral
Go
The Godfather Part III
The Great White Hype
The Green Mile
Henry Fool
High Art
Household Saints
Independence Day
King of New York
King of the Hill
The Last Seduction
Mallrats
Mother
Mr. & Mrs. Bridge
Nixon
Nobody's Fool
One False Move
The Opposite of Sex
The People vs. Larry Flynt
The Rapture
Red Rock West
Reversal of Fortune
Scream
Slums of Beverly Hills
The Spanish Prisoner
Spanking the Monkey
Speed
There's Something About Mary
Titanic
Total Recall
Trees Lounge
Tremors
The Waterdance
White Hunter Black Heart
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 09, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
"This is an outrage!  Where's Forrest Gump!?!"

Good question, indignant self ... but Forrest just missed the cut.  In fact, it was the last film left out.  We've added 136 films to the original 64, for a nice even total of 200 films.  And Forrest Gump was film 201.  However—

It seems we have an intruder in our midsts.  Sally Potter's Orlando, which defeated Dead Man in an earlier matchup, is not at all an American film.  So instead of having a bracket of the top 200 US films, we have the top 199 — plus 1 British film.

So here's an idea that you can vote on in the poll above:  We can nullify the Orlando-Dead Man verdict, force Dead Man to compete in a new first round matchup, and replace Orlando with Forrest Gump.

What do you think?  Vote above.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 07:22:43 PM
"This is an outrage!  Where's Forrest Gump!?!"

Good question, indignant self ....but Forrest just missed the cut.  In fact, it was the last film left out.  We've added 136 films to the original 64, for a nice even total of 200 films.  And Forrest Gump was film 201.  However—

It seems we have an intruder in our midsts.  Sally Potter's Orlando, which defeated Dead Man in an earlier matchup, is not at all an American film.  So instead of having a bracket of the top 200 US films, we have the top 199 plus one British film.

So here's an idea that you can vote on in the poll above:  We can nullify the Orlando-Dead Man matchup, force Dead Man to make a new first round matchup, and replace Orlando with Forrest Gump.

What do you think?  Vote above.

pixote
For reference on Orlando's country status, observe here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107756/).
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Basil on April 09, 2008, 07:23:53 PM
The two times I have turned to AMC the past couple of days, Forrest Gump has been on. In fact, each time it has been the same seen, in which Jenny reveals to Forrest that he is her son's father. It may not be the "greatest cinematic achievement of all time", but that scene, among others, is incredibly effective.

Please, give Forrest Gump a chance. Vote option #2!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: roujin on April 09, 2008, 07:25:26 PM
I'm all for nullifying Junior's incorrect choice. Oh yeah, plus that other stuff.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 07:26:41 PM
I'm all for nullifying Junior's incorrect choice. Oh yeah, plus that other stuff.
Please remember, this isn't about Junior. He's not the only person in the world that would pick Orlando in that matchup (even if I wouldn't) but there's no way to content Orlando is American.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wowser on April 09, 2008, 07:26:57 PM
I'm really regretting not putting Bringing Out The Dead at #1.

I shall also miss it. Not sure how films like Little Women managed to beat it.

Forrest Gump shall be crushed  :D
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 07:34:13 PM
I'm really regretting not putting Bringing Out The Dead at #1.

I shall also miss it. Not sure how films like Little Women managed to beat it.

Forrest Gump shall be crushed  :D
I will leave it to Little Women's supporter to explain himherself if heher so chooses.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Junior on April 09, 2008, 07:35:11 PM
I'm all for nullifying Junior's incorrect choice. Oh yeah, plus that other stuff.
Please remember, this isn't about Junior. He's not the only person in the world that would pick Orlando in that matchup

I'm not so sure about that... but thanks for defending me. I voted to bump it out, too.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 07:57:38 PM
"This is an outrage!  Where's Forrest Gump!?!"

Good question, indignant self ....but Forrest just missed the cut.  In fact, it was the last film left out.  We've added 136 films to the original 64, for a nice even total of 200 films.  And Forrest Gump was film 201.  However—

It seems we have an intruder in our midsts.  Sally Potter's Orlando, which defeated Dead Man in an earlier matchup, is not at all an American film.  So instead of having a bracket of the top 200 US films, we have the top 199 plus one British film.

So here's an idea that you can vote on in the poll above:  We can nullify the Orlando-Dead Man matchup, force Dead Man to make a new first round matchup, and replace Orlando with Forrest Gump.

What do you think?  Vote above.

pixote
For reference on Orlando's country status, observe here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107756/).
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: J5er on April 09, 2008, 09:08:15 PM
Honestly, I've never heard of Orlando, but I voted to keep it and get rid of Forrest Gump, because that movie is crazy overrated. :P

And listed "A League of Their Own," under "League of Their Own," gave me a scare!  I thought it didn't make it after I passed the "A's". :P
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 09, 2008, 09:50:23 PM
If you're curious to see what new matchups you've been assigned, they'll be posted in this thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2511.435) in about fifteen minutes.  And they'll be awesome.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 09, 2008, 09:51:43 PM
Honestly, I've never heard of Orlando, but I voted to keep it and get rid of Forrest Gump, because that movie is crazy overrated. :P

And listed "A League of Their Own," under "League of Their Own," gave me a scare!  I thought it didn't make it after I passed the "A's". :P
As we said, it's not about the value of Orlando, it's that it isn't American.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 09, 2008, 11:00:35 PM
I'm really regretting not putting Bringing Out The Dead at #1.

  I did - it didn't help.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 09, 2008, 11:07:26 PM
There was so little overlap between the films people put as their first choice, that there was no room left for the second choices.  Bringing Out the Dead was one of eight films to receive two combined votes — neither of which were first place votes.  None of those eight made the cut.  (The others were Bound, Flirting with Disaster, Go, Henry Fool, Independence Day, Reversal of Fortune, and The Crow).

Incidentally, Forrest Gump received five combined votes, but none of those were first place votes, leaving it the last film out (at least for now).

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 01:15:47 AM
Your votes are still coming in (I hope), but I'm ready to declare Forrest Gump the most divisive film of the 1990s.

I should have said, "...the most divisive American film."  Clearly, at an international level, Orlando is far more divisive.  :P

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: J5er on April 10, 2008, 02:03:19 AM
" American Beauty      vs                Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me  "

Hmm... well I've never seen either of these... I just have a dislike of American Beauty because Sam disliked it so much.  I've never watched any Twin Peaks, bur I would like to eventually... will watching the movie first ruin it for me?  If so, could I be assigned something else, please?  I'd just watch all the episodes of the show, but school is kind of insane.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 02:07:12 AM
I've never seen Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me either, and I have the same question about that matchup as you.  While we wait for someone else to chime in on that issue, how do you feel about taking Junior's rejected matchup instead:  Ed Wood vs. Joe vs. the Volcano?

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: winrit on April 10, 2008, 02:14:52 AM
I wouldn't watch Fire first. I say take a new match up.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: sdedalus on April 10, 2008, 03:15:30 AM
Wait. . . did we end up with Boyz N The Hood but leave out Menace II Society??
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 03:17:39 AM
Wait. . . did we end up with Boyz N The Hood but leave out Menace II Society??

Menace II Society is in the first group of 64 films, in a yet to be determined matchup against Julien Donkey-Boy.

I preferred Boyz N the Hood, myself.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: sdedalus on April 10, 2008, 03:19:03 AM
Oh good, and bad.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 03:32:39 AM
Did you by chance see Menace II Society before you saw Boyz n the Hood?  I always thought Menace was marred by an oversimiliarity to the earlier film.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: sdedalus on April 10, 2008, 03:35:25 AM
Nope, saw them as they came out.  I think Menace is a response to the oversimplification of Boyz.

Plus, the Hughes Brothers share my birthday.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 10, 2008, 08:59:06 AM
There was so little overlap between the films people put as their first choice, that there was no room left for the second choices.  Bringing Out the Dead was one of eight films to receive two combined votes — neither of which were first place votes.  None of those eight made the cut.  (The others were Bound, Flirting with Disaster, Go, Henry Fool, Independence Day, Reversal of Fortune, and The Crow).

Incidentally, Forrest Gump received five combined votes, but none of those were first place votes, leaving it the last film out (at least for now).

pixote


  I didn't pick it as first?

  I must have been back on crack.

  I checked - did too pick it as one to fight for.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 09:59:51 AM
I double-checked to be sure, and you didn't include Bringing Out the Dead on your final ballot.  Your three films to try to save were, in order, Eyes Wide Shut, Contact, and Bound.  Two of those got in, since Contact was someone else's first choice.  Seven people only ended up with one of their choices making it in, so it worked out better for you than for some.

As for the original ballots, you and one other person did indeed list Bringing Out the Dead as a film to fight for; however, there were just enough votes against the film to offset that.  As a result, it became one of the bubble films that needed a 1st place vote on the second ballot to make the cut.  The same is true of Tremors, Dances With Wolves, Go, Bound, Scream, There's Something About Mary, Carlito's Way, The Green Mile, Flirting with Disaster, Henry Fool, and King of the Hill (one of my own films to fight for, now deceased).

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 10, 2008, 10:27:40 AM
That's 14 for nullifying Orlando and putting Forrest Gump and Dead Man back in. That's a majority (based on our ballot numbers) and I'm calling it a decision. Orlando has been corrected and Forrest Gump is back to life.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ¡Keith! on April 10, 2008, 10:41:43 AM
more importantly Dead Man is as well!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 10, 2008, 10:45:41 AM
I double-checked to be sure, and you didn't include Bringing Out the Dead on your final ballot.  Your three films to try to save were, in order, Eyes Wide Shut, Contact, and Bound.  Two of those got in, since Contact was someone else's first choice.  Seven people only ended up with one of their choices making it in, so it worked out better for you than for some.

As for the original ballots, you and one other person did indeed list Bringing Out the Dead as a film to fight for; however, there were just enough votes against the film to offset that.  As a result, it became one of the bubble films that needed a 1st place vote on the second ballot to make the cut.  The same is true of Tremors, Dances With Wolves, Go, Bound, Scream, There's Something About Mary, Carlito's Way, The Green Mile, Flirting with Disaster, Henry Fool, and King of the Hill (one of my own films to fight for, now deceased).

pixote

 I wasn't complaing pix - just talking to myself out loud...and you're right - I wasn't thinking of the final ballot. I thought there would have been more love for that film and so moved to protect some other "dark horsey" films...c'est la vie...
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 10, 2008, 10:46:17 AM
That's 14 for nullifying Orlando and putting Forrest Gump and Dead Man back in. That's a majority (based on our ballot numbers) and I'm calling it a decision. Orlando has been corrected and Forrest Gump is back to life.

  Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
I wasn't complaing pix - just talking to myself out loud...and you're right - I wasn't thinking of the final ballot. I thought there would have been more love for that film and so moved to protect some other "dark horsey" films...c'est la vie...

It's okay, I'll complain for both of us...

This is a sham!  Forrest Gump over Bringing Out the Dead?!  Forrest Gump over King of the Hill?!  I mean, what's the point now?  :D

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 10, 2008, 11:11:26 AM
Forrest Gump just forrest gumped it's way back on the list. >:(
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: sdedalus on April 10, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
I can't wait til someone picks Gump over Dead Man.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on April 10, 2008, 11:20:10 AM
The horror...
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 10, 2008, 11:43:13 AM
I can't wait til someone picks Gump over Dead Man.
Won't happen this round.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Junior on April 10, 2008, 11:44:50 AM
I can't wait til someone picks Gump over Dead Man.
Won't happen this round.

But I will be the one to do it.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 10, 2008, 11:46:00 AM
I can't wait til someone picks Gump over Dead Man.
Won't happen this round.

But I will be the one to do it.
Doubtful.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on April 10, 2008, 11:49:05 AM
With the Orlando issue now resolved, maybe it's time to lock this thread and concentrate all the discussion in the main bracket thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=2511.0).

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on April 10, 2008, 12:05:19 PM
Yeah, if anyone one has any issues related to this thread they can message us. Otherwise, this is over.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on May 29, 2008, 11:22:07 AM
Hey, guess what, everybody?  It's time to vote on stuff again!!!  :D

Here's the deal.  We need to figure out the correct seeding for the original sixty-two films that started this bracket.  This will be key both in determining the second round pairings and also in helping to decide which sixteen losing films from the first round most deserve a second chance.

So here's the plan:  All participants in the 90s Bracket should copy the below list of films into a private message (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4150) to me, and then separate the films they've seen into the same five categories we used last time:

- The Films You Would Fight to the Death for (limit to 6 films)

- The Films You're Really Really Glad Made It into the Bracket (unlimited)

- The Films You Would Have Leaned Towards Including (unlimited)

- The Films You Would Have Leaned Against Including (unlimited)

- The Films You Really Really Would Have Wanted to Keep Out of the Bracket (unlimited)

Please only vote for films you've seen and can personally vouch for or against.  You can delete the rest.  Also, while you're limited to six films in the first group (the films you would fight to the death for), you don't have to max out that number.  If there's just one or two films you're that passionate about, that's fine.

Here's the list of films:

12 Monkeys
Bad Lieutenant
Beauty and the Beast
Before Sunrise
Being John Malkovich
Boogie Nights
Bottle Rocket
Boys Don't Cry
Buffalo ‘66
But I'm a Cheerleader
Clerks
Clueless
Crumb
Dazed & Confused
Fargo
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Fight Club
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
Glengarry Glen Ross
Goodfellas
Grosse Pointe Blank
Gummo
Hoop Dreams
Jerry Maguire
JFK
Julien Donkey-Boy
Kids
L.A. Confidential
L.A. Story
Last of the Mohicans
Lost Highway
Magnolia
Menace II Society
Metropolitian
Mighty Aphrodite
Miller’s Crossing
My Own Private Idaho
Paris Is Burning
Point Break
Pulp Fiction
Quiz Show
Reservoir Dogs
Rushmore
Safe
Schindler's List
Se7en
Serial Mom
Silence of the Lambs
Slacker
The Big Lebowski
The Book of Life
The Grifters
The Matrix
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The Sixth Sense
The Straight Story
The Thin Red Line
Tommy Boy
Toy Story
Trust
Unforgiven
Virgin Suicides

Alright, I think that's it.  Let me know if you have questions.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wilson on May 29, 2008, 11:23:51 AM
I know I was the one that booted it out but no Ice Storn?
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on May 29, 2008, 11:27:41 AM
I know I was the one that booted it out but no Ice Storm?

Ice Storm was part of the second batch of films let into the bracket (138 of the total 200), so its seeding was already determined by the previous balloting we did (it was the 14th seed out of those 138 films).  This ballot includes only the 62 films that we started with, regardless of whether they won or lost their first round matchups.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wilson on May 29, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
Ah ok, thanks.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on May 29, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
Two ballots received already!  The rest of you are unpardonable slackers.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: ses on May 29, 2008, 01:05:09 PM
Two ballots received already!  The rest of you are unpardonable slackers.

pixote

Some of us have to work you know.  ;) You will have mine later tonight.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on May 29, 2008, 01:07:21 PM
Some of us have to work you know.

Hmm, yeah.  All three ballots so far have been from Europe, I think...

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Wilson on May 29, 2008, 01:26:20 PM
Europeans are cooler than lazy Americans? ;)
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: roujin on May 29, 2008, 01:30:14 PM
Lazy students are as cool as Europeans. Sent.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: Tequila on May 29, 2008, 01:30:48 PM
No, we just set priorities.
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on May 29, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
No, we just set priorities.

Hurray for cultures that don't embrace a confused ethic of 'hard work' at the expense, and even ridicule, of leisure.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on May 30, 2008, 01:35:51 PM
All participants in the 90s Bracket should copy the below list of films into a private message (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4150) to me, and then separate the films they've seen into the same five categories we used last time...

I guess it'd be good to put a deadline on this.  Let's say Sunday night, 8pm Eastern.

Nineteen ballots received so far.  Good work, team!

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: facedad on May 30, 2008, 02:25:12 PM
All participants in the 90s Bracket should copy the below list of films into a private message (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4150) to me, and then separate the films they've seen into the same five categories we used last time...

I guess it'd be good to put a deadline on this.  Let's say Sunday night, 8pm Eastern.

Nineteen ballots received so far.  Good work, team!

pixote
Wooooo team!
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on June 01, 2008, 05:42:56 AM
Hey, guess what, everybody?  It's time to vote on stuff again!!!  :D

Here's the deal.  We need to figure out the correct seeding for the original sixty-two films that started this bracket.  This will be key both in determining the second round pairings and also in helping to decide which sixteen losing films from the first round most deserve a second chance.

So here's the plan:  All participants in the 90s Bracket should copy the below list of films into a private message (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4150) to me, and then separate the films they've seen into the same five categories we used last time:

- The Films You Would Fight to the Death for (limit to 6 films)

- The Films You're Really Really Glad Made It into the Bracket (unlimited)

- The Films You Would Have Leaned Towards Including (unlimited)

- The Films You Would Have Leaned Against Including (unlimited)

- The Films You Really Really Would Have Wanted to Keep Out of the Bracket (unlimited)

Please only vote for films you've seen and can personally vouch for or against.  You can delete the rest.  Also, while you're limited to six films in the first group (the films you would fight to the death for), you don't have to max out that number.  If there's just one or two films you're that passionate about, that's fine.

Here's the list of films:

12 Monkeys
Bad Lieutenant
Beauty and the Beast
Before Sunrise
Being John Malkovich
Boogie Nights
Bottle Rocket
Boys Don't Cry
Buffalo ‘66
But I'm a Cheerleader
Clerks
Clueless
Crumb
Dazed & Confused
Fargo
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Fight Club
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
Glengarry Glen Ross
Goodfellas
Grosse Pointe Blank
Gummo
Hoop Dreams
Jerry Maguire
JFK
Julien Donkey-Boy
Kids
L.A. Confidential
L.A. Story
Last of the Mohicans
Lost Highway
Magnolia
Menace II Society
Metropolitian
Mighty Aphrodite
Miller’s Crossing
My Own Private Idaho
Paris Is Burning
Point Break
Pulp Fiction
Quiz Show
Reservoir Dogs
Rushmore
Safe
Schindler's List
Se7en
Serial Mom
Silence of the Lambs
Slacker
The Big Lebowski
The Book of Life
The Grifters
The Matrix
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The Sixth Sense
The Straight Story
The Thin Red Line
Tommy Boy
Toy Story
Trust
Unforgiven
Virgin Suicides

Alright, I think that's it.  Let me know if you have questions.

Bumped!

If the final few participants can get their ballots in by 8pm Eastern tonight, that would be swell, just swell.

pixote
Title: Re: 1990s Bracket New Film Ballots
Post by: pixote on June 05, 2008, 11:55:47 AM
I guess it'd be good to put a deadline on this.  Let's say Sunday night, 8pm Eastern.

I was just bluffing here.  The real deadline for getting any late ballots in is the end of the first round.

pixote