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Title: Truffaut, François
Post by: chesterfilms on July 04, 2008, 04:05:15 AM
I have not seen Two English Girls The Green Room, The Last Metro, orA Gorgeous Bird Like Me, but here is how I rank the others.

The 400 Blows
Jules and Jim
Day for Night
Shoot the Piano Player
Bed & Board
Stolen Kisses
Fahrenheit 451
Small Change
Love on the Run
The Wild Child
The Soft Skin
The Man Who Loved Women
The Bride Wore Black
Confidentially Yours
The Story of Adele H
Mississippi Mermaid
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: roujin on July 04, 2008, 04:48:43 AM
The 400 Blows is one of the best films of all time. Most people will vote for it.

However, I'm tossing my vote to Small Change because it's just as lovable.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: duder on July 04, 2008, 06:02:50 AM
I'm going with The Bride Wore Black.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: samfuller on July 04, 2008, 09:17:05 AM
SHOOT THE PIANO PLAYER, one of my favorite films, then JULES AND JIM and 400 BLOWS. Probably no other director dropped off as dramatically after one of the best starts. I do kinda like TWO ENGLISH GIRLS though.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Kevin Shields on July 04, 2008, 09:18:19 AM
I've only seen 2 films and 2 shorts of his.  The 400 Blows & Jules & Jim.

I'm going to go with The 400 Blows.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: 1SO on July 04, 2008, 09:38:47 AM
Kind of cheated.  400 Blows is probably the Best, but I had to throw my love to Day For Night which I've watched many, many times.  I love showing people that one.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: sdedalus on July 04, 2008, 10:58:32 AM
1. Shoot The Piano Player
2. The 400 Blows
3. Stolen Kisses
4. Antoine and Collette
5. Day For Night
6. Jules And Jim
7. Fahrenheit 451
8. Les mistons
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: chesterfilms on July 04, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
SHOOT THE PIANO PLAYER, one of my favorite films, then JULES AND JIM and 400 BLOWS. Probably no other director dropped off as dramatically after one of the best starts. I do kinda like TWO ENGLISH GIRLS though.

I really disagree. Day For Night, Small Change, The Wild Child and the Antoine Doinel series are really great. I even really enjoy Fahrenheit 451.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: MartinTeller on October 04, 2010, 10:53:35 AM
1. Jules et Jim
2. The 400 Blows
3. Stolen Kisses
4. Shoot the Piano Player
5. Antoine et Colette
6. The Bride Wore Black
7. Bed & Board
8. The Soft Skin
9. The Wild Child
10. Day for Night
11. Small Change
12. Les Mistons
13. Love on the Run
14. The Last Metro
15. The Story of Adele H.
16. The Green Room
17. Une histoire d'eau
18. Mississippi Mermaid
19. A Gorgeous Kid Like Me
20. The Woman Next Door
21. Fahrenheit 451
22. Confidentially Yours
23. The Man Who Loved Women
24. Two English Girls
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: 1SO on February 17, 2012, 10:44:53 AM
Do you have further thoughts on Jules and Jim? I'm rewatching it because it doesn't rate as a classic for me either, though it's considered a seminal film of European cinema.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: verbALs on February 17, 2012, 11:52:47 AM
Too flowery, too literary (couldn't absorb the subtitles fast enough basically). I like Oskar Werner quite a lot. He was in The Man Who Came In From The Cold, but the film feels atypical for Truffaut, as if he was trying hard to be highbrow rather than the humanist he settled into being. I, of course, shouldn't judge films I have seen once, after the light dawned on me watching Out of the Past recently.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Antares on February 17, 2012, 12:11:06 PM
I, of course, shouldn't judge films I have seen once, after the light dawned on me watching Out of the Past recently.

I'm glad to hear this, I remember recommending it to you when I first joined, and I felt kind of like a fool when you gave it such a lukewarm response.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: StudentOFilm on February 17, 2012, 08:57:45 PM
1. The 400 Blows
2. Day for Night
3. Jules and Jim
4. The Last Metro
5. The Story of Adele H.
6. Fahrenheit 451
7. Shoot the Piano Player
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Totoro on March 12, 2012, 07:26:32 PM
Who else voted for Day for Night?

Mystery guy/girl and I are the cool Truffaut fans here.  8)
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: 1SO on March 12, 2012, 10:59:40 PM
Who else voted for Day for Night?

Mystery guy/girl and I are the cool Truffaut fans here.  8)

Hardly a mystery. Day for Night is my #63 film of All Time (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg542086#msg542086). 400 Blows is #79. I'll do a full color-coded list after my marathon.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Sandy on March 12, 2012, 11:57:18 PM
Thanks for the link. I got an extra bonus by reading on and catching your West Side Story review. It was a skilled summation!
Title: Truffaut, François
Post by: 1SO on July 10, 2012, 11:27:03 AM
1. Day For Night (#63 Film of All Time)
2. The 400 Blows (#80 Film of All Time)
3. Stolen Kisses
4. Antoine and Colette
5. Jules and Jim
6. Bed and Board
7. The Story of Adele H.
8. Love on the Run
9. Mississippi Mermaid
10. The Man Who Loved Women
11. Les Mistons
12. Fahrenheit 451
13. The Soft Skin
14. Small Change
15. The Bride Wore Black
16. Two English Girls
17. Confidentially Yours
18. The Last Metro
19. The Wild Child
20. The Woman Next Door
21. Shoot the Piano Player
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on July 10, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
Fahrenheit 451, the only one I have seen
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Totoro on December 14, 2012, 02:50:58 AM
Who else voted for Day for Night?

Mystery guy/girl and I are the cool Truffaut fans here.  8)

Hardly a mystery. Day for Night is my #63 film of All Time (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg542086#msg542086). 400 Blows is #79. I'll do a full color-coded list after my marathon.

 :D

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Day for Night (A)
Shoot the Piano Player (A-)
Jules & Jim (B+)
Stolen Kisses (B+)
Confidentially Yours (B+)
Antoine et Colette (B)
The 400 Blows (B)
The Last Metro (B)
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Verite on January 29, 2013, 04:37:01 PM
A 640 page book of 34 essays on Truffaut and his films will be released in May.  I'm familiar with the work of only a few of the contributors.  Table of contents: link (http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1405198478,descCd-tableOfContents.html).

Arnaud Desplechin had some interesting things to say about Truffaut and some of his films in an interview, and some of it was published in Cineaste's Winter '12 issue:

Quote from: Desplechin
What strikes me is a paradox-that Truffaut could have ever seemed like un notable [a dignified bourgeois]. Given his films, that's idiotic, since the films always favor those who aren't part of society. Always, always. It's a moral point of view, not at all an auteurist pose, really a moral and artistic point of view on the world. It's from the margins that the best of society comes.

...

For so long I hadn't seen the brûlant [burning] side of him, thinking of him instead as tiède [lukewarm]-which is an adjective people applied to Truffaut-but he's just the opposite. All his characters burn with a very, very strong passion.

...

We can say that Truffaut is on the other side and became a victim of the fact that he was working with this paradox of quiet violence. Still, he affected a lot of people, we who feel elected to a sort of secret club. We don't form a majority, even with his successful films, because Truffaut speaks to a very secret part within each one of us, and the kind of feeling we get from him is not a feeling that we can share as a group.

...

Maybe I was a little hasty when I said Truffaut is calmly scandalous; in fact he is resolutely scandalous. This is indisputable in all his films. For instance, consider a scene from L'Argent de poche (and remember this is a film that is not easy for me politically, given my age when I saw it):

...

True, his art is allusive, complicated, full of implications that create double, triple, and quadruple meanings, because he took the question of cinema so seriously. Still each film presents itself as naked and going straight toward one emotion; yes, more toward an emotion rather than toward plot.

He also talked about The Wild Child (e.g. comparing it to Straub and Huillet's Magdalena Bach), Mississippi Mermaid, Two English Girls, and The 400 Blows.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 06, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
Jules and Jim (1962)

Opening with the playful irreverence of the French New Wave, there's a moment, tempo and flow with the camera and editing that finally simmers down as the film morphs into a slightly more conventional told story about two good friends who become infatuated with a form and then a woman of the form. If it was just about their quest, Jules and Jim might be good, but the woman they find becomes such an overblown, cruel and heartless woman that Jules and Jim becomes insufferable and annoying to watch.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Antares on February 15, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
The 400 Blows
The Last Metro


Jules et Jim

Shoot the Piano Player
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: 1SO on February 15, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Shoot the Piano Player is also my least favorite. I'm telling you, Day For Night. Don't quit on Truffaut until you watch that one.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Antares on February 16, 2013, 06:44:16 AM
Shoot the Piano Player is also my least favorite. I'm telling you, Day For Night. Don't quit on Truffaut until you watch that one.

I don't plan on quitting him, but he has made it more difficult to go in with any sort of anticipation of greatness. I couldn't believe how bad that last film was. If I wasn't so busy right now, I'd write a pretty scathing review. I'll get around to it sometime next week.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Totoro on June 13, 2013, 05:39:41 AM
Les Mistons is fantastic. Only 17 minutes long, but deserves every bit of love as his best films get.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: AAAutin on June 17, 2013, 05:51:04 PM
5.) THE MAN WHO LOVED WOMEN
4.) SHOOT THE PIANO PLAYER
3.) FAHRENHEIT 451
2.) DAY FOR NIGHT
1.) THE 400 BLOWS
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: jascook on June 09, 2014, 06:43:15 PM
Jules and Jim (1962)

Opening with the playful irreverence of the French New Wave, there's a moment, tempo and flow with the camera and editing that finally simmers down as the film morphs into a slightly more conventional told story about two good friends who become infatuated with a form and then a woman of the form. If it was just about their quest, Jules and Jim might be good, but the woman they find becomes such an overblown, cruel and heartless woman that Jules and Jim becomes insufferable and annoying to watch.

I was trying to remember what it was about Jules and Jim that made me hold it in such low regard when I saw it five years ago.

After reading this, I remember.  The woman isn't worth all the fuss, the way she carries on.

I've seen five Truffaut films.  Two were great (400 Blows and Day for Night), two were pretty good (Shoot the Piano Player and Small Change), and well, Jules and Jim was the other one.

That's a good enough track record for me to want to see more, though.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Totoro on June 09, 2014, 06:57:36 PM
Day for Night (A)
Stolen Kisses (A-)
Jules & Jim (B+)
Les Mistons (B+)
Confidentially Yours (B)
The 400 Blows (B)
Antoine et Colette (B)
Fahrenheit 451 (B-)
The Last Metro (B-)
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 10, 2014, 07:54:12 AM
Jules and Jim (1962)

Opening with the playful irreverence of the French New Wave, there's a moment, tempo and flow with the camera and editing that finally simmers down as the film morphs into a slightly more conventional told story about two good friends who become infatuated with a form and then a woman of the form. If it was just about their quest, Jules and Jim might be good, but the woman they find becomes such an overblown, cruel and heartless woman that Jules and Jim becomes insufferable and annoying to watch.

I was trying to remember what it was about Jules and Jim that made me hold it in such low regard when I saw it five years ago.

After reading this, I remember.  The woman isn't worth all the fuss, the way she carries on.
Yea, the woman they pine for is put in such a negative light I wonder if Truffaut was going through a breakup at the time. It just became too much after a while.
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: verbALs on July 28, 2014, 05:59:45 PM
Truffaut stands no. 8 in my director's 100.

Given my favourite film by Truffaut, perhaps Antares could get around to posting his review, which he, earlier, promised would be "pretty scathing". C'mon mate, bare your teeth and come and have a go!  8)

1. Shoot the Piano Player
2. Stolen Kisses
3. The 400 Blows
4. Day for Night
5. Domicile Conjugal
6. The Last Metro
7. Fahrenheit 451
8. The Bride Wore Black
9. Small Change
10. Love on the Run
11. Jules and Jim
12. The Man Who Loved Women
13. The Soft Skin
14. Mississippi Mermaid
Title: Re: Directors Best Poll - François Truffaut
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 12, 2015, 06:45:29 AM
Wow, I didn't expect to be on the fringes with Vivement Dimanche (Confidentially Yours). I imagine I should revisit Les 400 Coups...
Title: Re: Truffaut, François
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 14, 2015, 03:33:54 PM
Small Change
Shoot the Piano Player
Day for Night
The 400 Blows
Jules and Jim
Title: Re: Truffaut, François
Post by: verbALs on May 14, 2015, 03:43:16 PM
Very nice one/ two.
Title: Re: Truffaut, François
Post by: MartinTeller on May 14, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
And yet so wrong about four/five
Title: Re: Truffaut, François
Post by: Corndog on March 30, 2016, 11:46:21 AM
1. The Last Metro (3)
2. The 400 Blows (2.5)
Title: Re: Truffaut, François
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 30, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
Vivement Dimanche
Fahrenheit 451
Les 400 Coups
Tirez sur le Pianiste