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Title: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 12, 2008, 04:47:02 PM
Let's say — hypothetically, mind you — that someone had not seen either of these.  Which one should yo watch first?  That is, which is the best?

As always, don't forget to vote in the previous matchups, if you haven't already.  Links are below.

Last week's matchup remains disconcertingly close.

pixote


Scoreboard
Random Movie Death Match #1: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3272.0)  Juno (23) leads Little Miss Sunshine (19)
Random Movie Death Match #2: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3297.0)  No Country for Old Men (24) leads Children of Men (14)
Random Movie Death Match #3: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3344.0)  Braveheart (23) leads Dances With Wolves (9)
Random Movie Death Match #4: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3403.0)  The Darjeeling Limited (19) leads The Squid and the Whale (18)
Random Movie Death Match #5: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3449.0)  Before Sunset (22) leads Once (17)
Random Movie Death Match #6: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3494.0)  The Silence of the Lambs (23) leads Zodiac (14)
Random Movie Death Match #7: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3529.0)  A History of Violence (25) leads RoboCop (13)
Random Movie Death Match #8: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3631.0)  Star Wars (20) leads The Wizard of Oz (11)
Random Movie Death Match #9: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3671.0)  The Graduate (21) leads The Big Chill (4)
Random Movie Death Match #10: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3695.0)  Wonder Boys (11) leads Beautiful Girls (8)
Random Movie Death Match #11: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3880.0)  Billy Elliot (11) leads 8 Mile (7)
Random Movie Death Match #12: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3916.0)  Four Weddings and a Funeral (15) leads Love Actually (10)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: duder on July 12, 2008, 04:53:14 PM
Back to the Future. Never really liked the other one.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oneaprilday on July 12, 2008, 05:20:26 PM
Which one should yo watch first?

We're assuming first is best, I presume?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 12, 2008, 05:25:02 PM
We're assuming first is best, I presume?

Correct.  Edited for clarity.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: sdedalus on July 12, 2008, 05:25:38 PM
Die Hard!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oneaprilday on July 12, 2008, 05:27:36 PM
Back to the Future
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 12, 2008, 05:29:40 PM
Die Hard!

I think I agree.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 12, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
God dammit people! Back to the Future is obviously the far superior film.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: secondcitywolverine on July 12, 2008, 06:39:10 PM
Anything with a Huey Lewis and the News song will always win
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 12, 2008, 06:41:32 PM
Back to the Future is obviously the far superior film.

Maybe.  Biff and George can get pretty annoying, though.

Then again, so can Karl, Dwayne, and Richard.

But I voted for Argyle, the bear, and Christmas in Hollis.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Wilson on July 12, 2008, 06:50:47 PM
Back to the Future

however...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OTyw6cq86kY (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OTyw6cq86kY)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Kevin Shields on July 12, 2008, 07:47:05 PM
Die Hard

This was tough to choose.  I love both films. 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on July 12, 2008, 08:28:17 PM
Back to the Future. Not even close.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on July 12, 2008, 09:23:52 PM
Which cultural touchstone would you use more often, "Yippie-kai-yay-..." or flux capacitor. Yippie, obviously.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 12, 2008, 09:58:51 PM
Which cultural touchstone would you use more often, "Yippie-kai-yay-..." or flux capacitor. Yippie, obviously.

Actually...

I regularly quote BttF. I certainly use "great scott!" all the time. I never ever quote Die Hard. It's a great action movie no doubt, but not even a close matchup. Back to the Future is one of the best films ever made easily, while Die Hard is simply one of the best action movies ever made.

And how are Biff and George annoying? George is amazing!

And oh my god what great dialogue.

"'Take your damn hands off her!' Do you really think I outta swear."
"Yes, definitely, Goddammit, George, swear!"

"Take this you mutatin' sonofabitch!"

"Look! There's a rhythmic ceremonial ritual coming up!"

Doc Brown: Then tell me, Future Boy. Who's President of the United States in 1985?
Marty: Ronald Reagan.
Doc Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor!? Then who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis? I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady? And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury!

Doc Brown: What am I wearing?
Marty McFly: Oh this, this is a radiation suit.
Doc Brown: Radiation suit? Of course! Because of all the fallout from the atomic wars! This is incredible. A portable television studio! No wonder your president has got to be an actor, he has to look good on television.

"Sounds pretty heavy."
"Weight has nothing to do with it."

And of course the classic line:

"Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads!" *cue Huey Lewis and his faithful News*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 12, 2008, 10:43:39 PM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/b665hj.jpg)

Ho ho ho.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on July 12, 2008, 11:03:04 PM
Which cultural touchstone would you use more often, "Yippie-kai-yay-..." or flux capacitor. Yippie, obviously.

I use flux capacitor a heck of a lot, really more than I should admit to.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 12, 2008, 11:09:44 PM
I'm constantly referencing the flux capacitor. In fact, I reference BttF so much that I believe if I ever made a film it, no matter what it was actually about, it would just end up being a giant homage to BttF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on July 12, 2008, 11:47:58 PM
I'm constantly referencing the flux capacitor. In fact, I reference BttF so much that I believe if I ever made a film it, no matter what it was actually about, it would just end up being a giant homage to BttF.

Any piece of technology that I don't know the real name for is a flux capacitor.

"Why isn't my computer working?" my sister asks.
"Well how do you expect to get online with such an old flux capacitor?" I answer.   
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 12, 2008, 11:52:11 PM
Back to the Future is on my personal Top 100, but it has dated badly.

Die Hard is the Greatest Action Film of All Time.  For me, it even surpasses Raiders of the Lost Ark.  I have never seen another film that gave me such a thrill ride.  I've watched it so much, it became like a personal film school.  It's where I learned the awesomeness of well-used widescreen, the importance of character in an action fantasy and all the great character touches.

The single most exciting moment in film history for me is after John McClane jumps off the roof attached to the fire hose.  He swings out to shoot the glass, crashes through and in a brilliant focus rack, he lands just as the hose mechanism tumbles to the ground behind him.  McClane is YANKED off his feet, dragged towards the window as the hose tries to pull him back outside the building.

And what about when Alan Rickman - the year's Best Supporting Actor and one of the All-Time Great Villains - switches to an American accent.

And how about the incredible camera angle inside Al Powell's car as the body falls through the windshield.

And McClane killing a guy by shooting out his kneecaps.  The guy stumbles head first into a glass window.

Okay, I'll be honest and say this before someone else does.  Die Hard is not perfect.  Neither is Back to the Future.  No film is.  But for everything Die Hard does wrong (undead Alexander Godunov) it does about 20 things perfectly.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on July 12, 2008, 11:59:42 PM
Back to the Future is on my personal Top 100, but it has dated badly.

I actually don't think it's all that dated. Once you get passed the first 20 minutes that isn't the case at all. 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 13, 2008, 01:19:09 AM
But for everything Die Hard does wrong ... it does about 20 things perfectly.

Yes!  A thousand times, yes!

Great post.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: gateway on July 13, 2008, 03:08:39 AM
Really tough choice here, but since I always say Die Hard is my favorite movie of all time, I have to go with John McClane and company. Back to the Future is brilliant, but Die Hard defined a genre. Only about a dozen other movies can say that.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jbissell on July 13, 2008, 02:28:51 PM
I love Die Hard, but I love Back to the Future more. WHERE WE'RE GOING, WE DON'T NEED ROADS
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chesterfilms on July 13, 2008, 02:43:23 PM
Die Hard

Back To The Future is way overrated.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 13, 2008, 05:11:43 PM
Back to the Future is on my personal Top 100, but it has dated badly.

I actually don't think it's all that dated. Once you get passed the first 20 minutes that isn't the case at all. 

In fact I don't even think the first 20 minutes are dated. I chalk that up to the fact that the film explicitly takes place in 1985. In fact, some of the stuff is even funnier in retrospect. To think that some things were cool in 1985 that just seem ridiculous now.

Die Hard

Back To The Future is way overrated.

You're overrated.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: facedad on July 13, 2008, 06:49:03 PM
Die Hard!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: gateway on July 13, 2008, 07:16:19 PM

In fact I don't even think the first 20 minutes are dated. I chalk that up to the fact that the film explicitly takes place in 1985. In fact, some of the stuff is even funnier in retrospect. To think that some things were cool in 1985 that just seem ridiculous now.


If you just think of it as a period piece set in 1985, it's just fine. The setting may be dated, but the story, characters and comedy definitely aren't.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chesterfilms on July 13, 2008, 07:43:28 PM
You're overrated.

you may be correct, but i have 5783 posts.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 13, 2008, 09:39:46 PM
You're overrated.

you may be correct, but i have 5783 posts.

Well, then I propose the rating system change to be based on your opinion of Back to the Future rather than on number of posts. Then I would be rated about 2 bajillion stars.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 13, 2008, 09:41:25 PM
Well, then I propose the rating system change to be based on your opinion of Back to the Future rather than on number of posts. Then I would be rated about 2 bajillion stars.

Yeah, I used to think that way.  Back when I only had three stars.

Die Hard!  :P

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 13, 2008, 10:04:12 PM
Well, then I propose the rating system change to be based on your opinion of Back to the Future rather than on number of posts. Then I would be rated about 2 bajillion stars.

Yeah, I used to think that way.  Back when I only had three stars.

Die Hard!  :P

pixote

You are evil, pix. But the best kind of evil. The kind that commands the deepest respect.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jbissell on July 14, 2008, 12:00:25 AM
You're overrated.

you may be correct, but i have 5783 posts.

I'm not sure I'd brag about that. But then again, I've won 3 fantasy football leagues...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chesterfilms on July 14, 2008, 10:48:30 AM
You're overrated.

you may be correct, but i have 5783 posts.

I'm not sure I'd brag about that. But then again, I've won 3 fantasy football leagues...

i'm not bragging about it at all. just making a joke. my post number has nothing to do with anything.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 14, 2008, 10:50:35 AM
I, on the other hand, was totally serious.

Die Hard!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 14, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
And pix reaffirms his evilness once again.

Also, Die Hard can't be better than BttF. Die Hard doesn't have Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox. Instant fail.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jbissell on July 14, 2008, 12:06:40 PM
You're overrated.

you may be correct, but i have 5783 posts.

I'm not sure I'd brag about that. But then again, I've won 3 fantasy football leagues...

i'm not bragging about it at all. just making a joke. my post number has nothing to do with anything.

I know you weren't bragging. I too was making a joke. Damned lack of tone on the Internet...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 14, 2008, 12:09:31 PM
I was still serious.

Alan Rickman!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 14, 2008, 01:17:11 PM
Die Hard can't be better than BttF. Die Hard doesn't have Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox. Instant fail.

This isn't about actors.  It's about character.

Die Hard gave us John McClane along with Holly and Little Lucy.  Then there's Al Powell, Argyle, Dept. Chief of Police Dwayne T. Robinson, Reporter Richard Thornburg, Ellis, Special Agents Johnson and Johnson (no relation), Mr. Takagi, Karl, Theo the safecracker and Hans Gruber.  That's without getting into great bit parts like Walt, the city worker who can cut the power and the Convenience Store Clerk. 

Back to the Future gave us Marty, Dc. Brown, George, Lorraine, Biff and I'll even throw in Mr. Strickland, The "Save The Clock Tower" woman and Marvin Berry.

Die Hard wins.  And I didn't even mention the SWAT guy who pricks his hand running through the rose bushes and the great Al Leong as candy bar eating Asian bad guy Uli.  (Also known for playing Endo, dispenser of pain in Lethal Weapon.)

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Think_Long on July 14, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
i think part of it is about legacy. die hard may have defined the meaty action hero movie, but it has been done and redone a thousand times since.  bttf did something entirely new with the science fiction genre, and has it ever been successfully recreated? i don't think so.

plus, unlike the die hard terrorists, the bttf terrorists could actually hit somebody with their machine guns (mainly, chris lloyd)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 14, 2008, 01:29:37 PM
plus, unlike the die hard terrorists, the bttf terrorists could actually hit somebody with their machine guns (mainly, chris lloyd)

First of all, they weren't terrorists in Die Hard, they were bank robbers posing as terrorists.  (Amazing how many people still get that wrong.)

2nd, Hans Gruber was really good at hitting Mr. Takagi and Ellis right between the eyes.  Plus he blows up a helicopter full of FBI.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 14, 2008, 01:35:07 PM
Die Hard can't be better than BttF. Die Hard doesn't have Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox. Instant fail.

This isn't about actors.  It's about character.

Die Hard gave us John McClane along with Holly and Little Lucy.  Then there's Al Powell, Argyle, Dept. Chief of Police Dwayne T. Robinson, Reporter Richard Thornburg, Ellis, Special Agents Johnson and Johnson (no relation), Mr. Takagi, Karl, Theo the safecracker and Hans Gruber.  That's without getting into great bit parts like Walt, the city worker who can cut the power and the Convenience Store Clerk. 

Back to the Future gave us Marty, Dc. Brown, George, Lorraine, Biff and I'll even throw in Mr. Strickland, The "Save The Clock Tower" woman and Marvin Berry.

Die Hard wins.  And I didn't even mention the SWAT guy who pricks his hand running through the rose bushes and the great Al Leong as candy bar eating Asian bad guy Uli.  (Also known for playing Endo, dispenser of pain in Lethal Weapon.)



So you're saying that more characters beats totally original, intersting, funny and distinct characters? I'm sorry, but when a movie has a character who's dream is to breed two pines that movie obviously can't be beat. I'm not saying I don't like Die Hard. It's actually one of my favourite movies, but it's just a great action movie. Back to the Future is what I would consider the ultimate entertainment. It has loads of comedy that is intelligent almost totally character-based. It has high-concept sci-fi. It has action. Suspense. Incest. A kick-ass soundtrack of Huey Lewis and music from the 50s. AND it has one of the best scores ever written, let alone ever written for a comedy. Back to the Future is also a film that absolutely anyone no matter of gender or age or politics can enjoy fully. It can't be beat.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 14, 2008, 01:43:53 PM

So you're saying that more characters beats totally original, intersting, funny and distinct characters? I'm sorry, but when a movie has a character who's dream is to breed two pines that movie obviously can't be beat. I'm not saying I don't like Die Hard. It's actually one of my favourite movies, but it's just a great action movie. Back to the Future is what I would consider the ultimate entertainment. It has loads of comedy that is intelligent almost totally character-based. It has high-concept sci-fi. It has action. Suspense. Incest. A kick-ass soundtrack of Huey Lewis and music from the 50s. AND it has one of the best scores ever written, let alone ever written for a comedy. Back to the Future is also a film that absolutely anyone no matter of gender or age or politics can enjoy fully. It can't be beat.

I was naming the many great, unforgettable characters as a rebuttal to your point that Fox and Lloyd give BTTF the edge.

This has been my favorite Death Match so far because BTTF is one of my all time favorite movies.  It's in my Top 50.  But Die Hard is (not kidding) in my Top 5.  It is the Greatest Action Film Ever Made, not simply because of the action but because of the wonderful character dynamics.  In fact there's a lengthy section where there's no action at all and the film never slips.  The characters, writing and direction keep the film working at a supreme level.

Back To The Future is a better version of Zemeckis' prior Romancing The Stone.  But I think he topped himself with his next film, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.  All of these are 5 star movies.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Think_Long on July 14, 2008, 01:46:06 PM
But I think he topped himself with his next film, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.  All of these ore 5 star movies.

*cough hack hack hack cough, splutter*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 14, 2008, 01:47:34 PM
But I think he topped himself with his next film, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.  All of these ore 5 star movies.

*cough hack hack hack cough, splutter*

He may be a hack, but he still directed one of the best movies ever made. And Roger Rabbit isn't even close to being better than BttF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 14, 2008, 02:27:19 PM
Hmm, I guess there is Die Hard's weird anti-feminism to consider...

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 14, 2008, 02:32:55 PM
How about we do a mini-death match pitting the Back to the Future sequels against the Die Hard sequels. It's a tough battle, but I'd say because Die Hard 2 and Die Hard 4 suck so so so much Back to the Future trilogy wins that race too.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 14, 2008, 02:35:32 PM
I could never, in good conscience, poll on a Renny Harlin film.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 14, 2008, 02:40:24 PM
Future Random Death Match: Beverly Hills Chihuahua vs. Citizen Kane

I guarantee you BHC will put up a good fight.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tequila on July 14, 2008, 02:59:49 PM
Future Random Death Match: Beverly Hills Chihuahua vs. Citizen Kane
Hum...how about "no"?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Basil on July 14, 2008, 03:11:22 PM
McFly!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 14, 2008, 04:04:11 PM
I was thinking of a death match between Back To The Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and Romancing The Stone.

Or a question where you find other directors with 3 movies in a row of this caliber.  (Before anyone else says the obvious, it would have to be the Francis Ford Coppola memorial list since you immediately think of Godfather, The Conversation, Godfather II ...which were all followed by Apocalypse Now.)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: arcnyc on July 14, 2008, 04:24:14 PM
Future Random Death Match: Beverly Hills Chihuahua vs. Citizen Kane

I guarantee you BHC will put up a good fight.

You have that backwards.  Kane will put up a good fight.

Chihuahua > Rosebud

I was thinking of a death match between Back To The Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and Romancing The Stone.

Or a question where you find other directors with 3 movies in a row of this caliber.  (Before anyone else says the obvious, it would have to be the Francis Ford Coppola memorial list since you immediately think of Godfather, The Conversation, Godfather II ...which were all followed by Apocalypse Now.)

Woody Allen would have to be memorial too. 

Bananas, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex, Sleeper...

Annie Hall, Interiors, Manhattan, Stardust Memories...

Zelig, Broadway Danny Rose, Purple Rose of Cairo, Hannah and Her Sisters.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jbissell on July 14, 2008, 04:27:17 PM
Steven Brill's trilogy of Little Nicky, Mr. Deeds, and Without a Paddle would be pretty tough to beat.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on July 14, 2008, 04:52:39 PM
Back to the Future is winning...

I guess that's the one I'll watch first.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Deacon.Snacks. on July 29, 2008, 02:45:18 PM
Great Scott!

The choice is Back to the Future!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 29, 2008, 05:56:56 PM
Does that mean we can finally put this thread to rest?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 29, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
Does that mean we can finally put this thread to rest?

Not until you post a video of yourself crooning "Earth Angel."

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on July 29, 2008, 08:00:37 PM
Not until I watch both of them and decide once and for all.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 29, 2008, 09:33:02 PM
Does that mean we can finally put this thread to rest?

Not until you post a video of yourself crooning "Earth Angel."

pixote

I croon Earth Angel all the time, but I would rather you all didn't commit suicide so I'll refrain from posting a video of it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Deacon.Snacks. on August 13, 2008, 02:14:34 AM
Roujin,

You'll have to post your thoughts on here after you watch either of these.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
Ooh. I remember this thread.

For old time's sake:

DIE HARD CAN GO TO HELL!!!!

BttF FTW!

Doc Brown pwns all!

Marty McFly is too cool fo school.

Lorraine Baines is uber hot, and so is Jennifer Parker.

George McFly is the king of nerds and Biff Tannen is a god among screwing up common phrases.

Biff is also the king of crashing into manuer.

All in all Back to the Future is the best movie ever made. MOVE OVER CITIZEN KANE!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Colleen on August 13, 2008, 01:09:35 PM
Back to the Future. Never really liked the other one.

I can say this too, but exactly opposite.  Although "never liked" is too strong, BTTF is likeable enough, never had any interest in seeing the sequels.  Die Hard is as close to a perfect action movie as has ever been made and I have never grown tired of it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 13, 2008, 01:19:49 PM
Back to the Future. Never really liked the other one.

I can say this too, but exactly opposite.  Although "never liked" is too strong, BTTF is likeable enough, never had any interest in seeing the sequels.  Die Hard is as close to a perfect action movie as has ever been made and I have never grown tired of it.

I missed you so much!  :D

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 01:20:34 PM
Back to the Future. Never really liked the other one.

I can say this too, but exactly opposite.  Although "never liked" is too strong, BTTF is likeable enough, never had any interest in seeing the sequels.  Die Hard is as close to a perfect action movie as has ever been made and I have never grown tired of it.

Watching Back to the Future is the closest thing to perfect happiness that exists. Let's just say that if Angel were to watch Back to the Future he would turn into Angelus pretty damn fast!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Basil on August 13, 2008, 01:23:53 PM
Die Hard is better than I thought it would be. Better change my vote, with apologies to my fellow rodent.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 01:28:41 PM
Die Hard is better than I thought it would be. Better change my vote, with apologies to my fellow rodent.

To quote Darth Vader in Star Wars Episode III, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 13, 2008, 01:37:45 PM
Die Hard is better than I thought it would be. Better change my vote, with apologies to my fellow rodent.

As in best movie of all time?!?!?!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
The fact that the vote is even as close as it is has lowered my faith in humanity (or at the vary least my faith in this board [but not really.])
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Basil on August 13, 2008, 01:46:45 PM
Die Hard is better than I thought it would be. Better change my vote, with apologies to my fellow rodent.

As in best movie of all time?!?!?!

Close.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Think_Long on August 13, 2008, 01:50:23 PM
this vote is absurdly close.  why oh why oh why don't people have good taste? what is wrong with the world? (and why did you have to revive this painful thread hamster?)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 13, 2008, 01:51:25 PM
BttF is the worst movie I have ever seen. Worse even than Dead Man.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Think_Long on August 13, 2008, 01:53:00 PM
you're the worst movie i've ever seen! you're worse than dead man!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/Juniorposter.jpg/200px-Juniorposter.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 13, 2008, 01:53:47 PM
But what about the actual genesis of my name?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg/200px-Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 01:58:42 PM
this vote is absurdly close.  why oh why oh why don't people have good taste? what is wrong with the world? (and why did you have to revive this painful thread hamster?)

I think it's because I'm some kind of masochist.


But what about the actual genesis of my name?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg/200px-Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg)

And I prefer the Think_Long version of things.  ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Colleen on August 13, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
Back to the Future. Never really liked the other one.

I can say this too, but exactly opposite.  Although "never liked" is too strong, BTTF is likeable enough, never had any interest in seeing the sequels.  Die Hard is as close to a perfect action movie as has ever been made and I have never grown tired of it.

I missed you so much!  :D

pixote

Awwwww...

Now I have to decide whether you mean this sincerely or sarcastically...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 02:38:36 PM
I'm still forming my opinion of you, Colleed, but as it stands I am not impressed.

Back to the Future forever!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Thor on August 13, 2008, 02:59:33 PM
BttF is the worst movie I have ever seen. Worse even than Dead Man.

No way. Elaborate, please.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Colleen on August 13, 2008, 03:00:40 PM
I'm still forming my opinion of you, Colleed, but as it stands I am not impressed.

Back to the Future forever!

Pbbbtttt :PpPpPpPPPpP

I'll be more impressed with your opinion of me when you spell my name right!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 13, 2008, 03:03:24 PM
BURN!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 13, 2008, 03:04:01 PM
BURN!

what took ya so long?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 03:09:06 PM
I'm still forming my opinion of you, Colleed, but as it stands I am not impressed.

Back to the Future forever!

Pbbbtttt :PpPpPpPPPpP

I'll be more impressed with your opinion of me when you spell my name right!

Of course I just haaaad to make myself look stupid. hehe
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 13, 2008, 06:22:45 PM
BttF is the worst movie I have ever seen. Worse even than Dead Man.

No way. Elaborate, please.

It was just a joke. Everybody yelled at me when I picked Orlando over Dead Man for the bracketttt, mostly overlooking the fact that I liked both about equally. So when there are two equal-ish movies being compared, I pick whichever one I don't vote for and say it's as bad as Dead Man. Now that I have taken all of the funny out of my joke, I'll go lie in a corner.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Basil on August 13, 2008, 06:23:31 PM
I'll go lie in a corner.

Please don't. I've missed you today.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 13, 2008, 06:25:35 PM
I'll go lie in a corner.

Please don't. I've missed you today.

What are you talking about, Basil? I have been here all day long. Gotta go!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Basil on August 13, 2008, 06:28:20 PM
But I'm about to become a Godfather!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 06:30:20 PM
Where the hell did this resurgence of Die Hard support come from? This is crap! How can Bttf be beating Star Wars, but still be so close with Die Hard?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Skeptikalklown on August 13, 2008, 06:35:36 PM
Looks like I tied it up   ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 06:40:12 PM
Looks like I tied it up   ;D

THIS IS SO ON!!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: gateway on August 13, 2008, 07:17:33 PM
Now that it's tied, there's only one fair way to resolve this: a steel cage death match between John McClane and Marty McFly.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 13, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
Best day ever.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 07:38:08 PM
I feel like the world is crashing down on me.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 13, 2008, 07:40:42 PM
I feel like it's Christmas in August.  In Hollis.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: AcademiaNut on August 13, 2008, 08:21:27 PM
I tipped the scales. Woot w00t.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chesterfilms on August 13, 2008, 08:32:44 PM
I tipped the scales. Woot w00t.

sweet
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Thor on August 13, 2008, 09:16:10 PM
BttF is the worst movie I have ever seen. Worse even than Dead Man.

No way. Elaborate, please.

It was just a joke. Everybody yelled at me when I picked Orlando over Dead Man for the bracketttt, mostly overlooking the fact that I liked both about equally. So when there are two equal-ish movies being compared, I pick whichever one I don't vote for and say it's as bad as Dead Man. Now that I have taken all of the funny out of my joke, I'll go lie in a corner.

Thank god for that.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 13, 2008, 09:39:19 PM
I tipped the scales. Woot w00t.

We can never be friends.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 13, 2008, 11:30:36 PM
DIE HARD!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 12:19:47 AM
Argh. I just don't understand how a comedy with one of the best comedic screenplays since It Happened One Night, and one of the most memorable cast of characters in modern film history, all perfectly acted, with some great science fiction elements, an awesome sense of style and one of the best scores in the post-John Williams era, can lose to a good action movie with a great, likable hero, but with cookie-cutter characters, tons of bland one-liners and, in my opinion, not very well photographed.

Back to the Future is a more fun film. It is a more emotional film. It is sometimes even a more tense film. And really, it is overall a much better film. I love Die Hard, but it just ain't up to the BttF level.

I'm sorry that I prefer clever plotting and dialogue, and well written characters over purely dumbed down action entertainment. Am I saying that I'm smarter than you guys for loving Back to the Future? Maybe.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on August 14, 2008, 12:21:21 AM
Part of every good argument is claiming intellectual superiority over your opponent :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 14, 2008, 12:28:07 AM
Again, yippie-kai-yay motherCINECAST!er.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 12:31:15 AM
Part of every good argument is claiming intellectual superiority over your opponent :)

LOL! indeed.

I need to get more people to vote up Back to the Future. I can't lose this. Though I guess it is partly my fault for getting the thread noticed again.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on August 14, 2008, 12:32:04 AM
Your fault indeed. You are an idiot and a dullard!  :P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on August 14, 2008, 01:11:41 AM
I guess it is partly my fault for getting the thread noticed again.

Yes.  BTTF was in the lead for way too long.  I must thank you for helping to make things right.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edelweiss on August 14, 2008, 01:13:56 AM
Crispin Glover is only in one of these movies.  Therefore, I vote BTTF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 01:14:14 AM
Your fault indeed. You are an idiot and a dullard!  :P

Now that's just mean. Retract that part about me being an idiot and a dullard! Also, retract that bit about my c*** f***ing kids!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Skeptikalklown on August 14, 2008, 01:19:37 AM
I'm sorry friend, but BttF just hasn't aged well at all, at least for me, whereas Die Hard is still the same dumb, semi-well executed action film it always was. Like I said in the Star Wars thread I don't remember the last time I was able to finish it when I saw it on TV, whereas Die Hard always requires my attention.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 01:30:37 AM
I'm sorry friend, but BttF just hasn't aged well at all, at least for me, whereas Die Hard is still the same dumb, semi-well executed action film it always was. Like I said in the Star Wars thread I don't remember the last time I was able to finish it when I saw it on TV, whereas Die Hard always requires my attention.


You are wrong. Just plain wrong.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Think_Long on August 14, 2008, 08:32:54 AM
wow, the votes are tied at . . .
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/the_number_23/jim_carrey/thenumber23_poster.jpg)

that is an evil coincidence. how can 23 people on this planet be so stupid? not stupid, just wrong.

and stupid.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 09:04:51 AM
wow, the votes are tied at . . .
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/the_number_23/jim_carrey/thenumber23_poster.jpg)

that is an evil coincidence. how can 23 people on this planet be so stupid? not stupid, just wrong.

and stupid.

So very very true!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Skeptikalklown on August 14, 2008, 04:48:40 PM
wow, the votes are tied at . . .
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/the_number_23/jim_carrey/thenumber23_poster.jpg (http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/the_number_23/jim_carrey/thenumber23_poster.jpg)

that is an evil coincidence. how can 23 people on this planet be so stupid? not stupid, just wrong.

and stupid.

They're Back to the Future fans, what do you want? This is so much more fun than it should be
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 04:56:48 PM
wow, the votes are tied at . . .
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/the_number_23/jim_carrey/thenumber23_poster.jpg (http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/the_number_23/jim_carrey/thenumber23_poster.jpg)

that is an evil coincidence. how can 23 people on this planet be so stupid? not stupid, just wrong.

and stupid.

They're Back to the Future fans, what do you want? This is so much more fun than it should be

Was he not talking about the people who voted for Die Hard?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Deacon.Snacks. on August 14, 2008, 05:27:06 PM
Wow... 23 + 0 = 23!

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on August 14, 2008, 05:32:24 PM
Please people, just click on Die Hard and let's get this over with.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 14, 2008, 05:37:03 PM
Please people, just click on Die Hard and let's get this over with.

I could say everyone just click Back to the Future and finish it up.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on August 16, 2008, 12:17:02 AM
I see someone changed their vote.  The edge now goes to BTTF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Marbe on August 17, 2008, 10:37:24 AM
Great scott, I thought Back to the Future was a natural fact that it is a way better movie. Like gravity, and breathing.

Meaning, I vote for Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 17, 2008, 10:47:59 AM
Redemption is here!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on August 17, 2008, 11:55:56 AM
Sticks and stones my break my bones, but BTTF will never hurt Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 17, 2008, 12:01:55 PM
Sticks and stones my break my bones, but BTTF will never hurt Die Hard.

Except that it just did!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on August 17, 2008, 12:14:16 PM
Damn you frostyhamster! What with your protective icecube shield and all. Man, if I had some matches to melt that igloo of yours...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 17, 2008, 12:17:03 PM
You could just throw the ice and hope it breaks. Oh wait. Why would I tell you that? I've made a huge mistake.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on August 17, 2008, 12:29:58 PM
No, there will be no throwing of icecubes today. Let's just settle this like real men would: With this poll between BTTF and Die hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 17, 2008, 10:39:56 PM
Then I suppose it's been settled. Good day. Next match: Evil Dead vs. Evil Dead 2 vs. Army of Darkness. How's that for a surefire hit of a poll.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on August 17, 2008, 11:48:58 PM
I like the title of the sequel more.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 18, 2008, 12:27:14 AM
I like the title of the sequel more.
Evil Dead 2? Or do you mean the subtitle Dead by Dawn?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 16, 2008, 03:12:52 PM
Marty McFly goes back in time, helps his parents get together, invents rock and roll...

...and everyone promptly forgets he was ever there the minute he leaves.
Nobody notices that a famous clothing brand is later named after him.
Nobody notices that Chuck Berry releases a song that sounds pretty similar to the one he played at the big dance.
and most importantly...
Nobody bats an eyelid when his Mom has a kid who looks exactly like him.

Now we don't claim to know exactly what first enters the mind of a married man when his wife births a child who looks identical to their old high school boyfriend, but we're guessing it's not "time travel conspiracy." Was George the most oblivious, forgiving man on earth?
Even more disturbing, what must his Mom have thought?
 
Plus, think how chilling Marty's final remark on stage becomes given this context: "I guess you're not ready for that yet... but your kids are gonna love it."
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 16, 2008, 04:15:46 PM
Marty McFly goes back in time, helps his parents get together, invents rock and roll...

...and everyone promptly forgets he was ever there the minute he leaves.
Nobody notices that a famous clothing brand is later named after him.
Nobody notices that Chuck Berry releases a song that sounds pretty similar to the one he played at the big dance.
and most importantly...
Nobody bats an eyelid when his Mom has a kid who looks exactly like him.

Now we don't claim to know exactly what first enters the mind of a married man when his wife births a child who looks identical to their old high school boyfriend, but we're guessing it's not "time travel conspiracy." Was George the most oblivious, forgiving man on earth?
Even more disturbing, what must his Mom have thought?
 
Plus, think how chilling Marty's final remark on stage becomes given this context: "I guess you're not ready for that yet... but your kids are gonna love it."

Just another reason to love the movie even more. Disney apparently turned down the screenplay because they didn't like that there was even a hint of incest.

And hadn't we buried this thread?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 16, 2008, 04:44:06 PM
I've seen neither but I voted Diehard.

Just because I hate BttF that much. :P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 16, 2008, 04:58:59 PM

And hadn't we buried this thread?

This is my favorite thread in the entire forum.  I will keep bumping it up whenever I can.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: The Mighty Celestial on September 16, 2008, 05:50:21 PM
I enjoyed boaf o' dese flix, yo, but if I had to choose, Back To The Future.
However, I like the sequel(s) to Die-Hard alot more, dawg.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on September 16, 2008, 07:32:49 PM
Several filmspotters clicked on the wrong option because BTTF is leading Die Hard. It's okay. I forgive them.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 16, 2008, 08:20:34 PM
Every time somebody votes for Die Hard in this poll a baby panda dies. Save the pandas, vote BttF!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on September 16, 2008, 08:30:07 PM
Every time someone votes for Die Hard a frozen hamster melts away. Vote for Die Hard!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 16, 2008, 08:38:01 PM
Every time someone votes for Die Hard a frozen hamster melts away. Vote for Die Hard!

There is only one Frozenhamster and I know that deep inside your heart you want him around forever.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on September 16, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
ah shucks...I was only kidding...







vote Die Hard anyways!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on May 16, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
Hi, roujin.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on May 16, 2009, 05:16:51 PM
Hi.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 16, 2009, 06:38:03 PM
Hello.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jperry360 on May 16, 2009, 06:41:36 PM
I vote Back to the Future!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 16, 2009, 07:38:41 PM
I vote Back to the Future!


You recieve the Frohamp Official Stamp of Approval
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2na1rlu.gif)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on May 28, 2009, 03:30:42 PM
Hi.

I'm very sad about this.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Fugee on May 28, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
Die Hard. The poster in my room commands me to.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on May 28, 2009, 04:21:36 PM
Die Hard. The poster in my room commands me to.
You're hired! (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4409.msg265226#msg265226)

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Thor on May 28, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
i changed my vote.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tequila on May 28, 2009, 05:09:13 PM
Coming in here, I didn't even remember what I voted for.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on May 28, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
Predator is also better than Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ferris on May 28, 2009, 06:01:15 PM
This poll has me laughing out loud. We need more of these.

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on May 28, 2009, 06:06:12 PM
come on... come on...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on May 28, 2009, 06:13:37 PM
come on... come on...

Tell me you heard the shot. Tell me you heard the shot and you're changing your vote right now...

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 28, 2009, 10:19:13 PM
This shall not pass!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on May 28, 2009, 10:26:09 PM
This great injustice has gone uncorrected for far too long.  Now is the time for the brothers and sisters of Die Hard to take up arms and push the rabble back.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 28, 2009, 10:41:45 PM
This great injustice has gone uncorrected for far too long.  Now is the time for the brothers and sisters of Die Hard to take up arms and push the rabble back.

Don't move a muscle or I'll shoot Pixar in the face. In the face!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on May 28, 2009, 10:50:30 PM
Much like Magnolia vs. Ghost Dog, I don't know how BttF is any where near as good as Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on May 28, 2009, 10:53:25 PM
This is still the best random movie death match. For crying out loud, till this day people still post in it.

Hey, uh, are there two people out there who really like Die Hard? We could use some help.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 28, 2009, 11:18:22 PM
This is still the best random movie death match. For crying out loud, till this day people still post in it.

Hey, uh, are there twofive people out there who really like BttF? We could use some help.

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mr. Hutchinson on June 06, 2009, 09:50:52 PM
I'm going with Back to the Future because I hate when people include Die Hard in their favorite Christmas movies lists
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 06, 2009, 09:52:31 PM
Dammit, corndog!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: duder on June 06, 2009, 10:18:18 PM
I'm going with Back to the Future because I hate when people include Die Hard in their favorite Christmas movies lists

 :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on June 06, 2009, 10:34:49 PM
I'm going with Back to the Future because I hate when people include Die Hard in their favorite Christmas movies lists

I fully support this.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FLYmeatwad on June 06, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
At one point during the 1 v. 100 Beta tonight I thought that FroHam was writing the questions. One asked a question pertaining to Up and it was immediately followed by a question that involved knowledge of Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on June 06, 2009, 10:50:47 PM
Dammit, corndog!

pixote

I'm sorry this random guy that is clearly creeping me disagrees with you and agrees with me.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on June 08, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
I could do without either of these movies.

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 08, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
Justice remains!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mandrake on June 08, 2009, 11:25:17 PM
I could do without either of these movies.



Second that. (waving hand gesture)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 29, 2009, 11:03:58 PM
whoa... where did all the BttF voted come from?  This is like Iran all overagain! (or at least so far a(ny)way)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 29, 2009, 11:09:20 PM
whoa... where did all the BttF voted come from?  This is like Iran all overagain! (or at least so far a(ny)way)

PROTESTERS WILL BE KILLED!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on July 09, 2009, 02:54:33 PM
While I could live without either of these movies (I am not certain if I could actually live without Spirited Away or Wall-E, knowing that they exist), I think that Die Hard is clearly the better movie.  More laughs overall, and a situation that I could actually be tense about.  I think I fell asleep last time I saw BTTF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 09, 2009, 04:17:42 PM
I think that Die Hard is clearly the better movie.  More laughs overall,

Ow, that's gotta sting.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on July 14, 2009, 02:22:20 AM
whoa... where did all the BttF voted come from?  This is like Iran all overagain! (or at least so far a(ny)way)

Remind me to do a IP address comparison to see how many users show overlap with a certain cold rodent.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 22, 2009, 02:33:54 AM
FroHam... this is for you.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1917317 (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1917317)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on July 22, 2009, 09:09:09 AM
You're the best, 1SO.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 30, 2009, 06:35:46 AM
Per the Top 100:

59. Back to the Future
83. Die Hard

So many horrible people in the world.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 30, 2009, 07:34:52 AM
Per the Top 100:

59. Back to the Future
83. Die Hard

So many horrible people in the world.

pixote

LOVE IT!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: NedMeier on August 30, 2009, 07:50:11 AM
a bit more substance in BTTF
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 30, 2009, 06:19:31 PM
BttF has to be a nostalgia pick, there is no other logical explanation.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 30, 2009, 06:27:18 PM
BttF has to be a nostalgia pick, there is no other logical explanation.

Sure there is. For what the film is and tries to do it is absolutely perfect in it's execution.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 31, 2009, 07:38:54 AM
BttF has to be a nostalgia pick, there is no other logical explanation.

Sure there is. For what the film is and tries to do it is absolutely perfect in it's execution.
I didn't know the film was trying to suck. :P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on August 31, 2009, 10:41:14 AM

I didn't know the film was trying to suck. :P

this my be my new favorite quote.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on August 31, 2009, 12:52:27 PM
I didn't know the film was trying to suck. :P

this my be my new favorite quote.

I still laugh at this great one by smirnoff. (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=1873.msg312216#msg312216)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on September 10, 2009, 06:08:45 AM
Choosing between Die Hard and Back To The Future is a tough call....hmmmm....I will have to go with Die Hard.

I remember being more excited by it when it came out because I had been a big fan of Moonlighting, and it was great seeing Bruce Willis step up as an action hero, whereas Alex Keaton going back in time to kiss his mum.....whilst really engaging and fun, especially when you see the thing from multiple angles as the trilogy progressed, was just slightly less exciting  ;D

I use the line "Why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here" quite a lot, but "Yippie-kai-yay" was one of the first things I taught my daughter to say!!!

So that concludes why Die Hard is better ;)

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on September 10, 2009, 09:26:49 AM
That's what I like to hear.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 10, 2009, 09:36:50 AM
TIED!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 10, 2009, 09:46:47 AM
My side's usually behind, so excuse my childish behavior...


SUCK IT, FROHAM!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 10, 2009, 09:53:20 AM
Good Guys take the lead!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.durbanbud.com/blog/images/dancingBanana.gif)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on September 10, 2009, 09:59:26 AM
Yes, someone, I will not name names, realized that all this time he had voted for the wrong movie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 10, 2009, 10:08:04 AM
This is heavy.

In the best possible way.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 10, 2009, 10:09:57 AM
I wish there was a list breaking down the dates when the lead changed hands and the largest gaps between the 2.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 10, 2009, 10:58:50 AM
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE!

THIS SHALL NOT STAND!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 10, 2009, 10:59:44 AM
This is heavy.

In the best possible way.

You saying "This is heavy." Just proves how much cooler, more memorable, and more quotable BttF is.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 10, 2009, 11:22:27 AM
He's so mad he's Double Posting.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on September 10, 2009, 12:31:53 PM
Filmspotting nation has done the right thing.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 10, 2009, 12:51:05 PM
Words fail.  :D

... "Yippie-kai-yay" was one of the first things I taught my daughter to say!!!

That is the greatest thing I have ever heard.

I wish there was a list breaking down the dates when the lead changed hands and the largest gaps between the 2.

Me too!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 10, 2009, 12:51:47 PM
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (18) leads Die Hard (11)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (18) leads Die Hard (11)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (22) leads Die Hard (11)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (22) leads Die Hard (12)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (24) leads Die Hard (23)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (28) leads Die Hard (23)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (29) leads Die Hard (25)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (30) leads Die Hard (25)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (26)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (26)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (28)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (28)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (34) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (37) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (38) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (38) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (41) leads Die Hard (35)
Thursday, September 10, 2009:  Die Hard (44) leads Back to the Future (42)!!!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on September 10, 2009, 12:56:40 PM
June 14th, where have you gone?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 10, 2009, 12:58:55 PM
This is crap. How did this happen without me noticing? There's something fishy going on.

I SHALL NOT REST UNTIL THIS IS CORRECTED!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: UberGeekyGirl on September 10, 2009, 01:19:58 PM
Though I think Back to the Future is a really great film I am not able to watch it with the frequency I am able to watch Die Hard.

I love Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on September 10, 2009, 01:21:40 PM
Die Hard is pulling away, I love it!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on September 10, 2009, 01:27:31 PM
This is heavy.

In the best possible way.

You saying "This is heavy." Just proves how much cooler, more memorable, and more quotable BttF is.
I'm saying it just to get quoted by you.

Mission Completed
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 10, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
Die Hard is pulling away, I love it!

This is ridiculous. Who exactly is voting in this? I don't understand how this is possible.

I threaten to quit the boards!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 10, 2009, 02:31:07 PM
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (18) leads Die Hard (11)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (18) leads Die Hard (11)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (22) leads Die Hard (11)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (22) leads Die Hard (12)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (24) leads Die Hard (23)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (28) leads Die Hard (23)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (29) leads Die Hard (25)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (30) leads Die Hard (25)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (26)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (26)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (28)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (32) leads Die Hard (28)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (34) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (37) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (38) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (38) leads Die Hard (33)
Random Movie Death Match #13: (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=4006.0) Back to the Future (41) leads Die Hard (35)
Thursday, September 10, 2009:  Die Hard (44) leads Back to the Future (42)!!!

pixote

As we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back to the future.

WE HAVE OVERCOME!!!

[/profane]
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 10, 2009, 02:50:13 PM
If only FroHam had a time travelling Delorean, he could maybe fix this.  And have sex with his mom.

DIE HARD!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on September 11, 2009, 12:51:33 AM
I just watched Die Hard (second viewing). It's awesome, but I'm not switching my vote.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 11, 2009, 01:58:11 AM
I just watched Die Hard (second viewing). It's awesome, but I'm not switching my vote.

I agree. Die Hard IS awesome. It must also go to hell!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Fugee on September 11, 2009, 06:18:51 PM
Now I have a Machine Gun. Ho, ho, ho!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 12, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
Now I have a Machine Gun. Ho, ho, ho!

That's heavy! I hate you.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 12, 2009, 12:52:46 AM
Back to the Future has faded in this poll like an undeveloping Polaroid.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on September 12, 2009, 04:05:29 AM
Back to the Future has faded in this poll like an undeveloping Polaroid.

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2lc8g28.jpg)

first thing that popped into my head.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 12, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
Back to the Future has faded in this poll like an undeveloping Polaroid.

pixote

Back to the Future will have a triumphant return. You just wait.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on September 12, 2009, 10:32:02 AM
Back to the Future has faded in this poll like an undeveloping Polaroid.
Back to the Future will have a triumphant return. You just wait.
We just need George to pop Biff in the kisser and we'll be back in business.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on September 12, 2009, 01:23:09 PM
We need a feature where I can vote Die Hard twice. Ballot stuffing ftw!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 13, 2009, 09:00:28 PM
I've been away all weekend, and Die Hard still rules.  The overall cinematic judgment of the people on these boards is very comforting.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on September 14, 2009, 04:53:17 AM
Although I think Die Hard is the best action movie of all time I have to say BttF has so many more downright iconic scenes and elements. Hans Gruber can't compete with the DeLorean, running through glass barefoot just isn't Doc Brown trying to somehow untangle the extension cord in the very last second (I remember shouting at the TV: "NOOO! There's no time! The lightning will strike any second! PLUG IT IN!" Having to pick between these two movies causes me physical pain as they are both so dear to my heart. I'm going to have to go with Back to the Future. <stares at his Die Hard DVDs on the shelve, sighs, takes out his Beretta M9 from the top drawer, lays it on the desk in front of him, looks at the DVDs again, takes the gun and puts it in his mouth> Um-foffy-Hom <takes the gun out of his mouth again> I'm sorry John <puts the gun back in his mouth - fade to black> ... BAM!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 14, 2009, 06:16:14 AM
The tide shall turn indeed!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on September 14, 2009, 10:33:14 AM
You need to convince a few more people if you're expecting to win this seemingly endless poll debate. Which reminds me, wasn't it a year ago that we we're bitching about this poll? A freaking year.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: UberGeekyGirl on September 14, 2009, 12:03:57 PM
Although I think Die Hard is the best action movie of all time I have to say BttF has so many more downright iconic scenes and elements. Hans Gruber can't compete with the DeLorean, running through glass barefoot just isn't Doc Brown trying to somehow untangle the extension cord in the very last second (I remember shouting at the TV: "NOOO! There's no time! The lightning will strike any second! PLUG IT IN!" Having to pick between these two movies causes me physical pain as they are both so dear to my heart. I'm going to have to go with Back to the Future. <stares at his Die Hard DVDs on the shelve, sighs, takes out his Beretta M9 from the top drawer, lays it on the desk in front of him, looks at the DVDs again, takes the gun and puts it in his mouth> Um-foffy-Hom <takes the gun out of his mouth again> I'm sorry John <puts the gun back in his mouth - fade to black> ... BAM!

*in complete shock*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on September 14, 2009, 12:19:19 PM
Clean up your stairs and leave me alone!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 14, 2009, 12:22:11 PM
If only DIRECTV would use Die Hard in one of their commercials...

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: UberGeekyGirl on September 14, 2009, 12:36:23 PM
Clean up your stairs and leave me alone!

*cries and gets a mop*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 14, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
We're so close!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 14, 2009, 01:15:11 PM
At this point, unaccounted for votes for either film scare me.  :-\

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on September 14, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
DIE HARD!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on September 14, 2009, 03:28:42 PM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on September 15, 2009, 12:00:09 PM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 15, 2009, 05:59:56 PM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*

you had better do it with the next several months or your transition year will be a complete failure (it will also be if you don't subsequently reinforce your vote for Die Hard)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: skjerva on September 15, 2009, 06:02:09 PM
i can't believe 90 people have voted on this
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 15, 2009, 11:59:39 PM
i can't believe 90 people have voted on this

I can't believe Die Hard is in the lead, even if only marginally so.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 16, 2009, 12:34:34 AM
i can't believe 90 people have voted on this

Why?  It is one of the most important issues of our day!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on September 16, 2009, 12:37:23 AM
Side bet fFroham is having three friends sign up right now just to vote in this thread?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 16, 2009, 12:37:44 AM
i can't believe 90 people have voted on this
Why?  It is one of the most important issues of our day!
1. Kanye
2. Homosexuality Today
3. Joe Wilson
4. Serena
5. Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
6. Health Care
7. Quoting out of Context
8. Afghanistan
9. Supertrains
10. Is Pix Cool?

God, number two sounds so like the title of a pamphlet in a guidance counselor's office.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/i226pz.jpg)

:D

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 16, 2009, 12:42:26 AM


10. Is Pix Cool?

pixote

Looking for some free advertising?  Thinking that you need more pats on the back?  #10?  I don't think so.  Maybe #15.  But #10 should really go to What Makes A Movie Great.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 16, 2009, 12:43:48 AM
Looking for some free advertising?  Thinking that you need more pats on the back?

No way!  If this thread has taught me anything, it's how quickly the tide can turn in a poll.  Why do you think I didn't include links?!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 16, 2009, 12:45:55 AM
Looking for some free advertising?  Thinking that you need more pats on the back?

No way!  If this thread has taught me anything, it's how quickly the tide can turn in a poll.  Why do you think I didn't include links?!

pixote

That does it.  I'm going back to change my vote.   >:(
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 16, 2009, 01:03:48 AM
i can't believe 90 people have voted on this
Why?  It is one of the most important issues of our day!
1. Kanye
2. Homosexuality Today
3. Joe Wilson
4. Serena
5. Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
6. Health Care
7. Quoting out of Context
8. Afghanistan
9. Supertrains
10. Is Pix Cool?

pixote

Its easy to see why Akon is having such a tough time describing things, its great when pop stars keep it real.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 16, 2009, 01:32:09 AM
Side bet fFroham is having three friends sign up right now just to vote in this thread?

I would never ever do that. There is no need to cheat in any way. This set back is only temporary. BttF will prevail as it always does.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on September 16, 2009, 01:39:09 AM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*

Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes in the somewhat established list of movies one should have watched. Part of me wishes I could watch BttF with fresh eyes but then again so much has been said and written about the BttF movies it's probably hard not to be biased already.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 16, 2009, 01:41:43 AM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*

Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes in the somewhat established list of movies one should have watched. Part of me wishes I could watch BttF with fresh eyes but then again so much has been said and written about the BttF movies it's probably hard not to be biased already.

But no matter what has been said, it's a different experience watching it.  Just try it out, and you'll see just how enjoyable it is.

And then come back and vote for Die Hard
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 16, 2009, 01:43:07 AM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*

Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes in the somewhat established list of movies one should have watched. Part of me wishes I could watch BttF with fresh eyes but then again so much has been said and written about the BttF movies it's probably hard not to be biased already.

But no matter what has been said, it's a different experience watching it.  Just try it out, and you'll see just how enjoyable it is.

And then come back and vote for Back to the Future.

Hey. I agree!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 16, 2009, 01:44:11 AM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*

Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes in the somewhat established list of movies one should have watched. Part of me wishes I could watch BttF with fresh eyes but then again so much has been said and written about the BttF movies it's probably hard not to be biased already.

But no matter what has been said, it's a different experience watching it.  Just try it out, and you'll see just how enjoyable it is.

And then come back and vote for Die Hard.

Hey. I agree!

Thanks, FroHam-- you're a good sport!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 16, 2009, 01:47:15 AM
DIE HARD!!


Oh, you're yelling. You must be right then. Pfff ...  ;)

I actually am not because I have never seen BTTF.

*Hides behind giant metal shield to protect himself from froham*

Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes in the somewhat established list of movies one should have watched. Part of me wishes I could watch BttF with fresh eyes but then again so much has been said and written about the BttF movies it's probably hard not to be biased already.

But no matter what has been said, it's a different experience watching it.  Just try it out, and you'll see just how enjoyable it is.

And then come back and vote for BttF.

Hey. I agree!

Thanks, FroHam-- you're a good sport! And Back to the Future is the most entertaining film of all time.

No problem!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 16, 2009, 01:48:53 AM
Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes

Too easy.

edit: Haha, or not.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on September 16, 2009, 01:50:10 AM
Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes

Too easy.

pixote

Too slow.

_keith_
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 16, 2009, 01:51:05 AM
Nah, I got my edit in in the allotted time!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on September 16, 2009, 02:37:27 AM
Don't worry. I'm sure everybody has one or more gaping holes

Too easy.

edit: Haha, or not.

pixote

Oh come on, grow up! <reads his own post again> Alright, that was a poor choice of words. <giggles>
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on November 10, 2009, 12:50:28 AM
Dear Hamster,

Don't miss out on this once in a lifetime opportunity. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DeLorean-Back-To-The-Future-Time-Machine-Time-Machine-1981-DeLorean-Back-To-The-Future-Time-Machine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c0dbb6ed6QQitemZ120489471702QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 10, 2009, 07:39:53 AM
Unfortunately, and despite what my hat and monocle might have you think, I cannot afford a DeLorean at this point in time.

Also, new people should vote for BttF. This thread is painful.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 10, 2009, 08:15:08 AM
Agreed, newbies need to vote, it pains me to see BttF this close to Die Hard, all you newbies need to make sure Die Hard pulls away, if it's not ahead by at least 15 votes then something is wrong with the world.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 10, 2009, 08:27:03 AM
Agreed, newbies need to vote, it pains me to see BttF this close to Die Hard, all you newbies need to make sure Die Hard pulls away, if it's not ahead by at least 15 votes then something is wrong with the world.

The truth of the matter is that they are both excellent films, and though Back to the Future is in almost every way a "better" film I totally understand somebody choosing Die Hard. Die Hard is a ton of fun, and it's probably the best action movie ever made, which must count for something. That said, I just don't even see how Die Hard is more entertaining. Back to the Future also, in my opinion, has a much better variety of memorable scenes and sequences, whereas Die Hard, due to its single location and simpler plot, feels more like one long memorable sequence with all the smaller memorable moments feeling blurred together.

But that's just me.

Of course, I can't stay this reasonable for long (my mustache and monocle only go so far) and I do have to end on a more serious note: If you don't vote for Back to the Future I will personally coax Michael Bay into making three more Transformers films, each longer and more stupefying than the next. I will then get him to do remakes of Casablanca, Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Rear Window.

I do think the choice is clear.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 10, 2009, 08:33:02 AM
Of course, I can't stay this reasonable for long (my mustache and monocle only go so far) and I do have to end on a more serious note: If you don't vote for Back to the Future I will personally coax Michael Bay into making three more Transformers films, each longer and more stupefying than the next. I will then get him to do remakes of Casablanca, Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Rear Window.

I do think the choice is clear.

This threat means nothing to me. First, there's always the chance that Bay will make another The Rock, second, if I can live with someone completely murderalizing a certain franchise that shall remain nameless, then I can deal with any of that. Also, I watched Buckaroo Banzai and Daywatch, I don't see any of your films suddenly killing me after making it through such atrocities.

I wish to live in a world where BttF and Die Hard are both viewed as great movies, but Die Hard is rightly viewed as a near masterpiece and far superior to BttF, I will not rest while you are about subverting my dream.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on November 10, 2009, 10:00:25 AM
I want this poll to receive more than 100 ballots. That would be something.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on November 10, 2009, 10:02:54 AM
oh, right, this thread. Why was it started again?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on November 10, 2009, 10:51:33 AM
oh, right, this thread. Why was it started again?

facehumping.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 10, 2009, 11:20:20 AM
oh, right, this thread. Why was it started again?

Because of the awesomeness.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on November 10, 2009, 09:04:48 PM
oh, right, this thread. Why was it started again?

Because of the awesomeness.

Despite being on opposing sides, I'm inclined to agree on that point alone.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Steven O. Selsnik on November 11, 2009, 09:11:32 AM
I thought about this choice long and hard and finally went with Die Hard. No surprise that the votes are almost dead even. While Back to the Future is a quintessential 80's flick die Hard is a quintessential one man against throngs of bad guys flick. If I was asked to pick a movie that defines both of these types of movies both would be in the top 5. Like them both equally but would forced myself to choose one. In the end, Yippi Kay Yah Mother Fla la la!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 11, 2009, 09:12:44 AM
I thought about this choice long and hard and finally went with Die Hard. No surprise that the votes are almost dead even. While Back to the Future is a quintessential 80's flick die Hard is a quintessential one man against throngs of bad guys flick. If I was asked to pick a movie that defines both of these types of movies both would be in the top 5. Like them both equally but would forced myself to choose one. In the end, Yippi Kay Yah Mother Fla la la!

This makes me happy.  ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Steven O. Selsnik on November 11, 2009, 09:15:04 AM
Of course, I can't stay this reasonable for long (my mustache and monocle only go so far) and I do have to end on a more serious note: If you don't vote for Back to the Future I will personally coax Michael Bay into making three more Transformers films, each longer and more stupefying than the next. I will then get him to do remakes of Casablanca, Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Rear Window.

I do think the choice is clear.

On a more humerous note, if Michael Bay makes that Casablanca remake I will hunt you down and gut you like a fish
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 11, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
One of these is funny, the other has jokes about incest.

I think I may have brought this up before...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on November 11, 2009, 11:57:26 AM
the other has jokes about incest.

That's why it's funny.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 11, 2009, 12:45:40 PM
the other has jokes about incest.

That's why it's funny.
:-\
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on November 11, 2009, 01:00:42 PM
FroHam, you make it so difficult to support BttF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on November 13, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2ahs800.jpg)
76. Die Hard  (John Mctiernan, 1988)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/54f9y1.jpg)
89. Back to the Future  (Robert Zemeckis, 1985)

My vote stands.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on November 13, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
If you don't vote for Back to the Future I will personally coax Michael Bay into making three more Transformers films, each longer and more stupefying than the next. I will then get him to do remakes of Casablanca, Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Rear Window.

If you however do vote for Back to the Future, Michael Bay might decide for himself that he needs to remake the entire Back to the Future trilogy......although if he gives Kerri Kendall a role as Marty's mum, it might well be worth it  ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 13, 2009, 03:58:41 PM
This is getting so out of hand.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 13, 2009, 04:01:09 PM
This is getting so out of hand.

It's glorious is what it is.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 13, 2009, 04:02:30 PM
This is getting so out of hand.

It's glorious is what it is.


I won't stay this way, I promise you.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Steven O. Selsnik on November 13, 2009, 04:03:18 PM
actually, if this was a true death match, i would take john mcclane against the entire cast from back to the future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 13, 2009, 04:04:40 PM
This is getting so out of hand.

It's glorious is what it is.


I won't stay this way, I promise you.

I'm hoping to see DH pull away, that would make my day, maybe year, no, decade.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on November 13, 2009, 04:05:49 PM
I'd like to see Argyle driving a DeLorean.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 13, 2009, 04:20:38 PM
I'd like to see Argyle driving a DeLorean.

pixote

I would watch that movie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on November 13, 2009, 04:24:03 PM
actually, if this was a true death match, i would take john mcclane against the entire cast from back to the future.

He'd decimate most of 'em but watch out for crispin glover - you wouldn;t wanna see him when he's angry
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 13, 2009, 04:25:38 PM
I think people here are voting waytoo much for badassery over quality. I suppose I understand this, but it doesn't make it right.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 13, 2009, 04:30:44 PM
I think people here are voting waytoo much for badassery over quality. I suppose I understand this, but it doesn't make it right.

You think wrong, yo.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on November 13, 2009, 08:52:31 PM
Back and forth, back and forth...I'm so confused at this point. Which movie is the one about New York cop John McClane and his sidekick Marty McFly and has them travel back to the 50s to stop Hans Gruber?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 13, 2009, 09:28:29 PM
Back and forth, back and forth...I'm so confused at this point. Which movie is the one about New York cop John McClane and his sidekick Marty McFly and has them travel back to the 50s to stop Hans Gruber?

I would also watch this movie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on November 14, 2009, 05:09:26 PM
Back and forth, back and forth...I'm so confused at this point. Which movie is the one about New York cop John McClane and his sidekick Marty McFly and has them travel back to the 50s to stop Hans Gruber?

I would also watch this movie.

I'd watch anything with Hans Gruber.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on November 14, 2009, 05:26:21 PM
Back and forth, back and forth...I'm so confused at this point. Which movie is the one about New York cop John McClane and his sidekick Marty McFly and has them travel back to the 50s to stop Hans Gruber?

I would also watch this movie.

I'd watch anything with Hans Gruber.

It's unfortunate he cant appear in sequels
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 14, 2009, 05:44:02 PM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 14, 2009, 05:49:22 PM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.

Tossing in the towel  :o
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 14, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.

Tossing in the towel  :o

The towel is not tossed. BttF will win out in the end. I've simply given up caring. It's not my fault 49 of you are so unenlightened ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 14, 2009, 05:54:10 PM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.

Tossing in the towel  :o

The towel is not tossed. BttF will win out in the end. I've simply given up caring. It's not my fault 49 of you are so unenlightened ;)

Disinterest is the first sign of a fighter who no longer believes in his cause.  :P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 14, 2009, 05:56:41 PM
I believe, but I also know a momentarily lost cause when I see one. Universal Health Care in America is a fine example.

:)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 14, 2009, 05:58:31 PM
I believe, but I also know a momentarily lost cause when I see one. Universal Health Care in America is a fine example.

:)

This is what I tell my friend at the gym right before I know he's about to get knocked out. Your secret is safe with me Hamster. :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on November 16, 2009, 07:39:28 AM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.

Tossing in the towel  :o

The towel is not tossed. BttF will win out in the end. I've simply given up caring. It's not my fault 49 of you are so unenlightened ;)

His Majesty is not as influence as he should be.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on November 16, 2009, 09:22:53 AM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.

Tossing in the towel  :o

The towel is not tossed. BttF will win out in the end. I've simply given up caring. It's not my fault 49 of you are so unenlightened ;)

His Majesty is not as influential as he should be.

the king is dead!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 16, 2009, 09:26:28 AM
I've decided that as King and Global Moderator I am above this petty squabble.

Tossing in the towel  :o

The towel is not tossed. BttF will win out in the end. I've simply given up caring. It's not my fault 49 of you are so unenlightened ;)

His Majesty is not as influential as he should be.

the king is dead!

Never!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on November 23, 2009, 01:32:25 AM
Not even a cool Crysis mod could make me like BTTF more than Die Hard, but it was fun to watch:

Back to the Future Delorean Crysis Mod (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZAaKH0FYO8#normal)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tequila on November 23, 2009, 03:08:32 PM
Not even a cool Crysis mod could make me play Crysis.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Lpod on December 02, 2009, 09:02:44 AM
I have to go with 'Back to the Future' over 'Die Hard' both fun...both great entertainment but 'Die hard' has since had so many movies after it that have copied the tone, back to the future remains more original in the long run.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Steven O. Selsnik on December 02, 2009, 09:09:48 AM
I have to go with 'Back to the Future' over 'Die Hard' both fun...both great entertainment but 'Die hard' has since had so many movies after it that have copied the tone, back to the future remains more original in the long run.

interesting that i went with die hard over BTTF for the same reason. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 03, 2009, 06:27:37 AM
BTTF and BTTF2 are just preludes to BTTF3 - Die Hard on the other hand is a beautiful standalone tale of one man's struggle to have a great Christmas ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
BTTF and BTTF2 are just preludes to BTTF3 - Die Hard on the other hand is a beautiful standalone tale of one man's struggle to have a great Christmas ;)


I don't get it.

BTTF is a standalone film that was given two more-than-decent sequels that play very nicely within the same universe. Die Hard is a standalone film upon which sequels were made that completely bastardize the universe and characters of the original film. Even still, I don't see how any of that changes the quality of the original films or the fact that BTTF is better than Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on December 03, 2009, 01:25:08 PM
No it does, it's the same problem I have with Firewfly times a million with BTTF when the doc comes from the future and takes him away, it's so sloppily handled, the only really bad bit in the film.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on December 03, 2009, 01:37:43 PM
We should declare Die Hard the official winner and forever crush the dreams of the hamster!  ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2009, 01:49:45 PM
No it does, it's the same problem I have with Firewfly times a million with BTTF when the doc comes from the future and takes him away, it's so sloppily handled, the only really bad bit in the film.

What? The ending is hilarious (also, was only ever meant as a joke, and not actually to set up a sequel.)

"What, do we become assholes or something?" Such a great scene. One of my favourite doc-isms is in that scene as well. At one point, when he is putting garbage in the Mr. Fusion, he holds a pop can upside down and makes sure to pour all the pop into the machine, only to toss in the can right after. It's those awesome little details (both in environment and characters) that help make BttF one of the best films ever made and definitely a better film than Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: roujin on December 03, 2009, 02:01:52 PM
I am the resurrection (http://www.thelifecinematic.com/board/images/smilies/snob.gif)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
I am the resurrection (http://www.thelifecinematic.com/board/images/smilies/snob.gif)

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on December 03, 2009, 07:21:44 PM
BTTF is a standalone film that was given two more-than-decent sequels that play very nicely within the same universe.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zs466r.jpg)

Wikipedia says this wasn't part of the theatrical release.  Is that true?  Who saw BttF in the theater?

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Steven O. Selsnik on December 03, 2009, 07:51:18 PM
BTTF is a standalone film that was given two more-than-decent sequels that play very nicely within the same universe.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zs466r.jpg)

Wikipedia says this wasn't part of the theatrical release.  Is that true?  Who saw BttF in the theater?

pixote

i saw it in the theater but smoked most of those memories away long ago
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 03, 2009, 08:09:49 PM
I saw it in the theatre and remember that end, however two things:

a. I know that I didn't necessarily consider that a sequel would be forthcoming.  I figured it was just one of those "or is it?"  kind of endings.

b. My memory isn't what it once was and perhaps I'm just remembering from one of my later viewings of BttF.

Actually, my memory was never that good, was it?  I can't remember...

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Thor on December 03, 2009, 08:59:46 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2009, 09:30:36 PM
BTTF is a standalone film that was given two more-than-decent sequels that play very nicely within the same universe.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zs466r.jpg)

Wikipedia says this wasn't part of the theatrical release.  Is that true?  Who saw BttF in the theater?

pixote
I saw it in the theatre and remember that end, however two things:

a. I know that I didn't necessarily consider that a sequel would be forthcoming.  I figured it was just one of those "or is it?"  kind of endings.

b. My memory isn't what it once was and perhaps I'm just remembering from one of my later viewings of BttF.

Actually, my memory was never that good, was it?  I can't remember...


The ending was the same. That "To be continued..." title card was not in the original theatrical release. It was put there for the home video release and subsequently removed for the DVD release.

It is well known that the ending was meant more as a gag than anything else. If you go and watch the second movie you'll notice they even had to reshoot that scene because the original actress who played Jennifer Parker wasn't available and was thus replaced by Elisabeth Shue for Parts 2 and 3. The writers and producers have also spoken extensively about the fact that had it actually been a true setup for a sequel they would have come up with a better reason to go to the future and would not have brought Jennifer along as she was essentially dead weight.

Seriously, do you guys not know your BttF history? You do realize that Eric Stoltz was the original Marty McFly, but was fired and replaced by Michael J. Fox despite his problematic schedule interference with shooting Family Ties, right? I am so disappointed in all of you right now.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 04, 2009, 12:54:17 AM
Unless someone changes their vote, when the poll reaches 100 votes, Die Hard will win.

Sorry, FH, but sometimes we just have to face hard, cold facts.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 04, 2009, 01:01:13 AM
That isn't how this works. Nobody thought this poll would get 100 votes. Why is 100 the cutoff? There is no cutoff and BttF is the real winner no matter the poll results. Do you know why? It's because BttF is a better movie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 04, 2009, 01:06:46 AM
There will be no cutoff, you are correct.  It will just be true.  "Out of a hundred votes, Die Hard got 5-; BttF got 4-".

It's a hard world.

Sorry. I'm still bitter at Spirited Away losing out to A Clockwork Orange.  Nothing personal.



Of course, this is just a ruse.  I don't really care.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Fugee on December 04, 2009, 05:37:10 PM
Watched Die Hard again on Tuesday and my vote still stands. Gogo Die Hard
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 05, 2009, 01:11:23 AM
Watched Die Hard again on Tuesday and my vote still stands. Gogo Die Hard

I'm very excited about seeing the Home Alone/Die Hard double feature again at the Bloor Cinema over the Christmas break. So much fun. Could only really be topped by a double feature of Back to the Future/Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 05, 2009, 01:23:16 AM
Pesci + Stern > Nazis
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 05, 2009, 01:53:13 AM
Pesci + Stern > Nazis

Simply not true.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 05, 2009, 05:39:37 AM
I never got into BttF enough to delve into the history. Eric Stolz you say.....hmm that *might* have made it better than Die Hard......lol

I have never seen it without the To Be Continued bit. The thought of that not being there actually brings its rating up slightly, but I still think Die Hard remains the better film - Yippie-Ki-Yay ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on December 05, 2009, 09:50:41 AM
Pesci + Stern > Nazis
Simply not true.
The Wet Bandits strike again!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 05, 2009, 10:45:53 AM
I never got into BttF enough to delve into the history. Eric Stolz you say.....hmm that *might* have made it better than Die Hard......lol

I have never seen it without the To Be Continued bit. The thought of that not being there actually brings its rating up slightly, but I still think Die Hard remains the better film - Yippie-Ki-Yay ;)


If you haven't seen BttF without the To Be Continued then you haven't yet seen it on DVD, which means you likely haven't seen it in many years. That calls for a revisit.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on December 05, 2009, 12:39:02 PM
If you haven't seen BttF without the To Be Continued then you haven't yet seen it on DVD, which means you likely haven't seen it in many years. That calls for a revisit.

He's a Jedi and all wise and stuff, you should follow his advice.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 05, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
If you haven't seen BttF without the To Be Continued then you haven't yet seen it on DVD, which means you likely haven't seen it in many years. That calls for a revisit.

He's a Jedi and all wise and stuff, you should follow his advice.

Yes he is right, and as soon as BttF is over pop in Die Hard so you can watch the better of the two films.  ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 05, 2009, 06:58:58 PM
I actually watched it just 2 months ago with my son for the first time. He kept commenting on dialogue from the movie that he hears me say all the time like: "Why don't you make like a tree and get outta here", "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads", "Give me a milk.........Chocolate" and "This is Heavy". He never knew I was just quoting movie lines......now those things make more sense to him ;)

I didn't recall the to be continued thing not being on the end of the DVD, I thought it was still there - but that may be because it was burned into my conscience from many many viewings previously - it was one of the first videos I owned after War Games ;)

Ok as a family film BttF is better, but I can't wait until he is a little older to introduce him to Die Hard!!

;)


Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 06, 2009, 01:45:28 AM
I actually watched it just 2 months ago with my son for the first time. He kept commenting on dialogue from the movie that he hears me say all the time like: "Why don't you make like a tree and get outta here", "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads", "Give me a milk.........Chocolate" and "This is Heavy". He never knew I was just quoting movie lines......now those things make more sense to him ;)

I didn't recall the to be continued thing not being on the end of the DVD, I thought it was still there - but that may be because it was burned into my conscience from many many viewings previously - it was one of the first videos I owned after War Games ;)

Ok as a family film BttF is better, but I can't wait until he is a little older to introduce him to Die Hard!!

;)


Just consider the fact that you quote relatively minor lines like the chocolate milk one. The film is perfect from start to finish. Even Die Hard has that really unfortunately cheesy return of the brother at the end.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Holly Harry on December 06, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
Die Hard is winning? People, people.

Back To The Future obviously.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on December 06, 2009, 04:32:51 PM
One of these takes place during Christmas. To vote for the other would be against Christmas spirit.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 06, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Can't remember what I voted for... removed my vote for further consideration. (Bribery accepted.)

I'll give you cyber-chocolate and funny you tube videos if you vote Die Hard!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 06, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
Die Hard requires no bribery!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 06, 2009, 08:07:43 PM
This is great, almost made me change my vote....almost ;)

Brokeback to the Future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uwuLxrv8jY#normal)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 06, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
Ben Stiller's Die Hard 12: Die Hungry
Yeah.......not so good......Nothing beats the original - parody or otherwise!

High Quality Die Hard 12: Die Hungry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGfmfPYiO1w#normal)

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 05, 2010, 10:56:15 PM
Well I put Die Hard two places ahead of BTTF on my favorite movie list so Die Hard it is, and for everyone touting the classic lines in BTTF (all of which are great) don't forget these Die Hard gems:
Nine million terrorists in the world and I gotta kill one with feet smaller than my sister.

Attention, whoever you are. This channel is reserved for emergency calls only.
No CINECAST!ing shit, lady. Do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?

Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho.
 
Yippee-ki-yay, motherCINECAST!er.

And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.

Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs...

I'm Agent Johnson, this is Special Agent Johnson. No relation.

This time John Wayne does not walk off into the sunset with Grace Kelly.
That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Just like CINECAST!in' Saigon, hey, Slick?
I was in junior high, dickhead.
 
Drop it, dickhead. It's the police.
You won't hurt me.
Oh, yeah? Why not?
Because you're a policeman. There are rules for policemen.
Yeah. That's what my captain keeps telling me.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 06, 2010, 01:35:23 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 06, 2010, 01:45:07 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.

now didn't you make a vow to stay outta this cage?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 06, 2010, 01:48:20 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.

now didn't you make a vow to stay outta this cage?

I say a lot of things. And I am not here to petition votes. I'm just correcting our new member ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 06, 2010, 01:49:18 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.

now didn't you make a vow to stay outta this cage?

I say a lot of things.

we know. ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 06, 2010, 08:18:45 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.

now didn't you make a vow to stay outta this cage?

I say a lot of things. And I am not here to petition votes. I'm just correcting our new member ;)

You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 06, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.
Um no. BttF is way more cheesy than Die Hard could even be.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 06, 2010, 09:50:21 AM
Being silly is different from being cheesy.

Also, they are two different typed of bad guys that serve two different purposes.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 06, 2010, 01:46:36 PM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.

now didn't you make a vow to stay outta this cage?

I say a lot of things. And I am not here to petition votes. I'm just correcting our new member ;)

You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!

Why a spoon cousin?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ferris on February 06, 2010, 06:33:44 PM
Well I put Die Hard two places ahead of BTTF on my favorite movie list so Die Hard it is, and for everyone touting the classic lines in BTTF (all of which are great) don't forget these Die Hard gems:
Nine million terrorists in the world and I gotta kill one with feet smaller than my sister.

Attention, whoever you are. This channel is reserved for emergency calls only.
No CINECAST!ing shit, lady. Do I sound like I'm ordering a pizza?

Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho.
 
Yippee-ki-yay, motherCINECAST!er.

And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.

Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs...

I'm Agent Johnson, this is Special Agent Johnson. No relation.

This time John Wayne does not walk off into the sunset with Grace Kelly.
That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Just like CINECAST!in' Saigon, hey, Slick?
I was in junior high, dickhead.
 
Drop it, dickhead. It's the police.
You won't hurt me.
Oh, yeah? Why not?
Because you're a policeman. There are rules for policemen.
Yeah. That's what my captain keeps telling me.


This list of quotes reminds me how long it's been since I've seen the non-TV version of this!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 07, 2010, 07:35:03 AM
Yeah, most of those lines are cheesy. The lines in Back to the Future are more memorable, and they're actually really good too.

now didn't you make a vow to stay outta this cage?

I say a lot of things. And I am not here to petition votes. I'm just correcting our new member ;)

You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!

Why a spoon cousin?

Cause it will hurt more you twit! Classic!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on February 12, 2010, 02:05:04 AM
You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
I like this guy. Someone give him a cookie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 12, 2010, 01:58:24 PM
You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
I like this guy. Someone give him a cookie.

Please do, white chocolate and macadamia nut!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 12, 2010, 02:11:50 PM
You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
I like this guy. Someone give him a cookie.

Please do, white chocolate and macadamia nut!

i'm afraid all we got left is some broken pecan sandies.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on February 12, 2010, 08:29:38 PM
So... first to 100 votes wins?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 12, 2010, 10:19:00 PM
You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
I like this guy. Someone give him a cookie.

Please do, white chocolate and macadamia nut!

i'm afraid all we got left is some broken pecan sandies.
That'll do, although in honor of Die Hard I should just go get a bag of Twinkies, you know for my wife... she's uh pregnant.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 12, 2010, 10:20:16 PM
Riiiiight. ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on February 13, 2010, 02:25:51 AM
You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
I like this guy. Someone give him a cookie.
Please do, white chocolate and macadamia nut!
i'm afraid all we got left is some broken pecan sandies.
That'll do, although in honor of Die Hard I should just go get a bag of Twinkies, you know for my wife... she's uh pregnant.
Considering Twinkies have become as rare as Unicorns that's quite a gesture. Wait, wrong movie. *Imagination takes over* Hans Gruber as a Voodoo priest commanding terrorist Zombies .... uhhhh .... Anyway.

So... first to 100 votes wins?
Really? You want this to end? Don't you see these filmspotting forums have given birth to one of the most difficult and controversial questions in movie geek history? This question shall be the legacy of the forums, a gift for generations to come. 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 22, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
You know I put both in my top 20 favorite movies so I can't talk bad about either film. Quotes probably wasn't the right way to go because there are some classics in BTTF, but if ANYONE thinks Biff holds a candle to Hans as a bad guy, well they are just wrong. Alan Rickman as the bad guy is a great thing to behold, he even made Robin Hood fun to watch!
I like this guy. Someone give him a cookie.
Please do, white chocolate and macadamia nut!
i'm afraid all we got left is some broken pecan sandies.
That'll do, although in honor of Die Hard I should just go get a bag of Twinkies, you know for my wife... she's uh pregnant.
Considering Twinkies have become as rare as Unicorns that's quite a gesture. Wait, wrong movie. *Imagination takes over* Hans Gruber as a Voodoo priest commanding terrorist Zombies .... uhhhh .... Anyway.

So... first to 100 votes wins?
Really? You want this to end? Don't you see these filmspotting forums have given birth to one of the most difficult and controversial questions in movie geek history? This question shall be the legacy of the forums, a gift for generations to come. 
I would totally see that! Zombieland 2: Die Harder!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on February 23, 2010, 03:22:08 AM
I would totally see that! Zombieland 2: Die Harder!
Me:    Mom, MOM, I think I made a friend!
Mom: That's good, son. Very nice.
Me:    I know! BFF!

Sorry, back on topic: Oh, Die Hard or BttF .. that's a really difficult question, something something.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Monty on February 23, 2010, 10:05:20 AM
Even though it's years since I seen either of these films, its Got to be Die Hard.

Alan Rickman is just briliant in this film.

Regards to all Filmspotters

Monty.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 23, 2010, 10:11:40 AM
People here are too macho. BttF is just superior in every way. The writing. Directing. Acting.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 23, 2010, 10:14:36 AM
People here are too macho. BttF is just superior in every way. The writing. Directing. Acting.

says the guy who wants to look buff in his space suit.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on February 23, 2010, 10:16:46 AM
LANDSLIDE VICTORY!!!11111!!!1!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 23, 2010, 10:19:01 AM
Hey! I may want to look buff but BttF is still a better film in every respect. Did I mention the score for BttF is freaking awesome? And I'll take Crispin Glover in BttF over Alan Rickman in Die Hard any day when it comes to big showy performances.

It really isn't a landslide either. BttF was once this far ahead and it will be once again. I have faith in BttF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on February 23, 2010, 10:20:31 AM
;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on February 23, 2010, 10:29:29 AM
Hey! I may want to look buff but BttF is still a better film in every respect. Did I mention the score for BttF is freaking awesome? And I'll take Crispin Glover in BttF over Alan Rickman in Die Hard any day when it comes to big showy performances.

It really isn't a landslide either. BttF was once this far ahead and it will be once again. I have faith in BttF.

Your faith much like your movie affection is misplaced, the true masterpiece has risen to take the lead and it shan't give it up.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on February 23, 2010, 10:31:35 AM
People here are too macho. BttF is just superior in every way. The writing. Directing. Acting.

I got yo back BFF. I mean BttF has a Marty McFly guitar solo, twice. What did John McClane ever do?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 23, 2010, 10:33:20 AM
People here are too macho. BttF is just superior in every way. The writing. Directing. Acting.

I got yo back BFF. I mean BttF has a Marty McFly guitar solo, twice. What did John McClane ever do?

My god. You pimped BttF over Die Hard using a Rushmore reference. Amazing. Genius even.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 23, 2010, 10:38:49 AM
The Citizen Cane of Action Films!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on February 23, 2010, 10:40:03 AM
The Citizen Cane of Action Films!

BttF isn't an action film.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 23, 2010, 10:41:45 AM
The Citizen Kane of Action Films!

FYP

I have said it before and I'll say it again. Die Hard is the best action movie, but BttF cannot fit in such a box. It is completely unique in it's style on story and genre that it was never done before and it has never been properly imitated since.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 23, 2010, 10:42:19 AM
The Citizen Kane of Action Films!

BttF isn't an action film.

you are correct. (FMP as well)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mr Durden on February 23, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
Id have to say.......Die hard

Man, writing that was harder than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on February 23, 2010, 04:21:04 PM
Maybe you should try telling the truth. It's easier.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on February 23, 2010, 04:28:21 PM
Stand beside your convictions. 

The Die Hard side has cookies.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mr Durden on February 23, 2010, 04:31:07 PM
I was thinking of avoiding this message board altogether corndog.

Im proud I was able to make a decision albeit a conflicting one.
 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on February 23, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
I was thinking of avoiding this message board altogether corndog.

Im proud I was able to make a decision albeit a conflicting one.
 

Ha, maybe. I love both so much too, but once I made my decision I have to be sure to support it with all my heart.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mr Durden on February 23, 2010, 04:52:20 PM
I was thinking of avoiding this message board altogether corndog.

Im proud I was able to make a decision albeit a conflicting one.
 

Ha, maybe. I love both so much too, but once I made my decision I have to be sure to support it with all my heart.

Thanks for the advice.....DIE HARD FOREVER!!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 23, 2010, 04:53:53 PM
I was thinking of avoiding this message board altogether corndog.

Im proud I was able to make a decision albeit a conflicting one.
 

Ha, maybe. I love both so much too, but once I made my decision I have to be sure to support it with all my heart.

Thanks for the advice.....DIE HARD FOREVER!!!!

Yet another person who will never be part of the BFF Trio.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on February 23, 2010, 05:27:28 PM
at least you now admit there are only 3 BttF fans  - or are you still looking for that elusive third member ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mr Durden on February 23, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
People here are too macho. BttF is just superior in every way. The writing. Directing. Acting.

I got yo back BFF. I mean BttF has a Marty McFly guitar solo, twice. What did John McClane ever do?

John Mclane takes on robbers who are masquerading as terrorists while wearing a vest and wins. I rest my case.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 23, 2010, 06:44:31 PM
at least you now admit there are only 3 BttF fans  - or are you still looking for that elusive third member ;D

Actually most lists like IMDb or Flickchart have BttF over Die Hard. And not all BttF fans are my BFFs but all my BFFs are fans of BttF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on February 24, 2010, 02:30:45 AM
[…] the true masterpiece has risen to take the lead and it shan't give it up.
Very nice.

The Citizen Cane of Action Films!
Couldn’t have said it better.

The Die Hard side has cookies.
Damn right we do!

I was thinking of avoiding this message board altogether corndog.
Im proud I was able to make a decision albeit a conflicting one.
Ha, maybe. I love both so much too, but once I made my decision I have to be sure to support it with all my heart.
It seems the majority of filmspotters participating in this thread are conflicted. I’m a little weirded out by the people who have no problem answering this hardest of hard questions. They must be aliens, weirdos, eat babies or something.

Actually most lists like IMDb or Flickchart have BttF over Die Hard. And not all BttF fans are my BFFs but all my BFFs are fans of BttF.
Oh yeah? I’m sorry but the word of space guinney pigs, mice and rats don’t have much weight. BAAM! Naw, you know I love all things fluffy but because of a cruel twist of fate you are my enemy now.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 24, 2010, 08:53:37 AM
Kimble, you can claim it was the one-armed man all you like. I'm still going to chase you right through the Hoover Dam. Watch your back.  :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: IndianaSolo on February 24, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
Actually most lists like IMDb or Flickchart have BttF over Die Hard. And not all BttF fans are my BFFs but all my BFFs are fans of BttF.

Can't we all just get along?  :)  Nobody is saying either movie is bad right? I mean we all would place these in our all-time lists and probably have them both in our collections. I think it goes without saying they are both great! Of course Die Hard is just a teeny bit better!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 24, 2010, 02:57:48 PM
Die Hard is one of the best movies ever made and easily in my top 20 favourites ever. It still doesn't hold a candle to Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on February 24, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
at least you now admit there are only 3 BttF fans  - or are you still looking for that elusive third member ;D

Actually most lists like IMDb or Flickchart have BttF over Die Hard. And not all BttF fans are my BFFs but all my BFFs are fans of BttF.

I can believe that.  Of course, that's just the common people.  A Filmspotter is a higher level of cinephile.  This poll is just one of many proofs of that.  :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on February 24, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
I can believe that.  Of course, that's just the common people.  A Filmspotter is a higher level of cinephile.  This poll is just one of many proofs of that.  :)

Yea, we can't just agree that they're both great, we have to know which one is better.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on February 24, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
Clearly, Back to the Future is one of the worst films ever made.

DIE HARD!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tequila on February 24, 2010, 08:35:32 PM
You need to bring those scoreboards up to date, pix.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on February 24, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
The as yet hypothetical next death match will have an up-to-date scoreboard.  Sadly, RoboCop will still be trailing some shitty film.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 24, 2010, 10:57:05 PM
Clearly, Back to the Future is one of the worst films ever made.

DIE HARD!

pixote and sam
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on February 25, 2010, 01:15:54 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 25, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.

HEY! Leave your indifference at the door mister!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 25, 2010, 01:21:03 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.

But Marty. Chihuahua.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on February 25, 2010, 01:24:25 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.

HEY! Leave your indifference at the door mister!


I wear my apathy like a crown of thorns.

I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.

But Marty. Chihuahua.

We'll always have chihuahua...

as side note - someone popped microwave popcorn and it smells like mircowave popcorn with a baby's diaper thrown in there for good measure...appropro of nothing.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 25, 2010, 01:38:20 PM
damn surly Xers.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on February 26, 2010, 02:05:25 AM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.
HEY! Leave your indifference at the door mister!
I wear my apathy like a crown of thorns.
:D You guys should get paid for this.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on February 26, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.
HEY! Leave your indifference at the door mister!
I wear my apathy like a crown of thorns.
:D You guys should get paid for this.
Don't you receive royalty payments for every comment you make on these boards?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on February 26, 2010, 02:51:02 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.
HEY! Leave your indifference at the door mister!
I wear my apathy like a crown of thorns.
:D You guys should get paid for this.
Don't you receive royalty payments for every comment you make on these boards?

i do... for some reason i'm paid in dibs though...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on February 26, 2010, 03:00:29 PM
I changed my vote but I really don't care either way because neither film is really that special.
HEY! Leave your indifference at the door mister!
I wear my apathy like a crown of thorns.
:D You guys should get paid for this.
Don't you receive royalty payments for every comment you make on these boards?

i do... for some reason i'm paid in dibs though...

We're all payed in dibs, just some people won't admit it to themselves.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on February 27, 2010, 04:12:56 AM
We're all payed in dibs, just some people won't admit it to themselves.
Dibs? Dibs won't buy me no bacon!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on February 27, 2010, 09:50:16 AM
We're all payed in dibs, just some people won't admit it to themselves.
Dibs? Dibs won't buy me no bacon!

But they will buy you happiness.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: St. Martin the Bald on February 27, 2010, 09:41:15 PM
*goes to concessions to get some Dibs*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: StanTheSalesman on March 09, 2010, 01:53:56 PM
It's close but I have to go with Back to the Future. I love Die Hard. It's in my Top 10 of all time. At #6, in fact. But Back to the Future is #5.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Nathan Adams on March 26, 2010, 02:20:37 AM
Voted for Back to the Future.  Oh, Goddamn you.  Die Hard is still the best action movie ever.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 26, 2010, 07:58:18 AM
"'And Alexander wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.' -Hans Gruber, Diehard" -Alec Baldwin (30 Rock)

I rest my case.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: tinyholidays on March 26, 2010, 10:04:34 AM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on March 26, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
Come back run, here we go baby.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DrKimble on March 30, 2010, 02:07:15 AM
Yes but Die Hard is seen on a major holiday. That should be given extra points.
That's true!

BTTF trascends space and time - on a mere 1.21 jigawatts
Oh no! He played the 1.21 gigawatts card!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on April 05, 2010, 12:47:55 AM
(http://epicwinftw.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129115819518664307.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: joker on April 08, 2010, 02:28:32 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

that makes no sense... thats like saying "cancer is better then no cancer"

NO IT"S NOT
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: tinyholidays on April 08, 2010, 03:19:14 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

that makes no sense... thats like saying "cancer is better then no cancer"

NO IT"S NOT

:'(
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on April 08, 2010, 03:23:29 PM
hyperbole itt
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on May 03, 2010, 03:20:50 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

Yah, but Rickman is better then no Rickman.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on May 03, 2010, 03:25:28 PM
No Carl Winslow is better than Carl Winslow.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 03, 2010, 03:25:44 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

that makes no sense... thats like saying "cancer is better then no cancer"

NO IT"S NOT

:'(

Don't take it too seriously. joker punches babies in his spare time.  :P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on May 03, 2010, 06:26:06 PM
No Carl Winslow is better than Carl Winslow.
:D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Chicago At Night on May 04, 2010, 09:27:27 PM
Back to the Future doesn't have exploding helicopters. Therefore, Die Hard FTW!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 04, 2010, 10:14:01 PM
Welcome to the light side.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: tinyholidays on May 04, 2010, 10:31:32 PM
Back to the Future doesn't have exploding helicopters. Therefore, Die Hard FTW!

Time Travel > Exploding Helicopters
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 04, 2010, 10:42:55 PM
Back to the Future doesn't have exploding helicopters. Therefore, Die Hard FTW!

Time Travel > Exploding Helicopters

Seriously. That's not even a contest.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 04, 2010, 10:47:04 PM
Back to the Future doesn't have exploding helicopters. Therefore, Die Hard FTW!

Time Travel > Exploding Helicopters
Machine-Gunless Santa > Time Travel
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 04, 2010, 11:03:54 PM
Back to the Future doesn't have exploding helicopters. Therefore, Die Hard FTW!

Time Travel > Exploding Helicopters
Machine-Gunless Santa > Time Travel

Not really. Not really at all.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chardy999 on May 05, 2010, 06:14:15 AM
This scoreline is getting embarrassing.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Nathan Adams on May 08, 2010, 10:40:21 PM
This week's Filmspotting Fix made it sound like they're going to bring this poll to the main page?  Things could start to get very heated.  Go Team McFly!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 14, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
The poll is up on the main Filmspotting page!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 14, 2010, 09:52:13 AM
I'm pretty sure froham voted 7 times to give BttF a head start. Not that it will do him any good.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 14, 2010, 09:53:23 AM
I'm pretty sure froham voted 7 times to give BttF a head start. Not that it will do him any good.

If only I was capable of doing that.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 14, 2010, 10:07:16 AM
It's actually not that hard as the poll is cookie based, but I make a point never to do it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on May 14, 2010, 10:08:30 AM
It's actually not that hard as the poll is cookie based, but I make a point never to do it.

It doesn't matter. I want BttF to win fair and square.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on May 14, 2010, 10:29:43 AM
I wish I cared about the outcome of this poll more.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on May 25, 2010, 10:29:56 PM
This is great.

Back to the Future 1 & 2 Simultaneous Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMiF8Ua1EMs#)

But still, Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on June 06, 2010, 04:22:24 PM
Ok this is pretty amazing. It makes me want to switch my vote to BTTF! I bet even Froham has never noticed this. :D


(http://nextround.net/upcoming/thumbs/2010/05/25/Holy-Crap-of-the-Day-Whats-that-Back-To-The-Future-229-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on June 06, 2010, 04:26:28 PM
Clever.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on June 06, 2010, 04:56:44 PM
This has posted before.  I feel weird because I noticed that joke back in the 80's when I saw the film in the theatre.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on June 06, 2010, 05:09:42 PM
I actually hadn't paid attention to this poll in some time. I didn't know Die Hard was earning a more comfortable* lead. Nice.


*comfortable when compared to the 'neck and neck' voting which characterized the first few months of this poll.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on June 06, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
I bet even Froham has never noticed this. :D

Man, I noticed that when I was like 6. I can't believe so many people are just now being impressed. :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 06, 2010, 07:03:54 PM
Seriously Clovis. How would I not have noticed that? It's one of the reasons I cite it as my favourite movie ever. There are so many little details like that. Everything has a pay-off in the movie. I bet you never noticed the clock at the beginning of the movi that has a little guy hanging off one of the hands. Brilliant movie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on June 06, 2010, 07:08:21 PM
I guess I underestimated the level of pure nerdy-ness the members of this forum can achieve. :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on June 09, 2010, 10:20:40 AM
pixote,

What do you think about posting Back to the Future 2 vs. Die Hard 2?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 09, 2010, 10:22:16 AM
I could never, in good conscience, poll on a Renny Harlin film.

:D

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oneaprilday on June 09, 2010, 11:29:58 AM
Ok this is pretty amazing. It makes me want to switch my vote to BTTF! I bet even Froham has never noticed this. :D


(http://nextround.net/upcoming/thumbs/2010/05/25/Holy-Crap-of-the-Day-Whats-that-Back-To-The-Future-229-full.jpg)

Glad you're finally recognizing BttF's brilliance. :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on June 09, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
I guess I underestimated the level of pure nerdy-ness the members of this forum can achieve. :D

Never underestimate the power of nerd.

(http://www.thebluething.com/img/internet-soldier.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 14, 2010, 09:30:14 PM
OMG. I'm watching Fringe Season 2, and in episode 16, "Peter", there is a reference to Eric Stoltz being the star of Back to the Future in the alternate reality. Such a great bit, obviously included by big fans of BttF, who would of course know that Eric Stotlz was originally cast as Marty McFly after Michael J. Fox was unable to play the part. Several weeks of footage were shot until it was determined that Stoltz was simply not right for the role, so the fired him and bent over backwards to cast Fox. It seems in the alternate reality in Fringe they never fired Eric Stoltz.

You wouldn't see that level of referencing for a movie like Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on June 14, 2010, 10:00:43 PM
You should watch The Middleman.  In the episode "the clotharian contamination protocol."...

- "the nakatomi protocol" in a further driving home of the theme, the keypad chimes with beethoven's ode to joy, the central musical conceit of "die hard".
- "come out to the coast, we'll have a few laughs" - homage by quote (and lucky lighter use) to john mcclaine in "die hard"
- "great, hans grubered with our own robot" - homage to the villain from "die hard,"
- "great, it's "die hard" in a building"
- "now i have a machine gun - ho-ho-ho"
- "yippi-kay-yay [BLEEP!]"
- "now i know what a tv dinner feels like"
- "welcome to the party, ida" - paraphrase of a quote from "die hard"
- "today john wayne doesn't get to ride off into the sunset with grace kelly" - yet another quote from "die hard"
- the "ode to joy" is reprised again briefly when the pneumatic tube chamber opens, echoing the opening of the nakatomi corporation vault in...wait for it..."die hard!"


- "die hard inside an android" - is a screenwriter's joke referring to the glut of films that followed "die hard," all of which were pitched as "die hard in a -"...like "under siege" (die hard in a battleship) or "air force one" (die hard in air force one) or "toy soldiers" (die hard in a military school) or "executive decision" (die hard in a passenger plane) or "sudden death" (die hard in an arena) or "speed" (die hard in a bus) or "speed 2" (die hard in a cruise ship)


Also an episode of Chuck references Nakotomi Plaza as a real place.

Plus there's this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/movieconnections) which points up over 200 references in other films and TV shows to Die Hard.

(And, yes, if you look up Back to the Future you'll find an equally long list of references.  I'm afraid this one ends in a draw.)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on June 14, 2010, 10:03:40 PM
(And, yes, if you look up Back to the Future you'll find an equally long list of references.  I'm afraid this one ends in a draw.)

It's longer, actually. I can get out the measuring tape if you want. ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 14, 2010, 10:10:01 PM
(And, yes, if you look up Back to the Future you'll find an equally long list of references.  I'm afraid this one ends in a draw.)

It's longer, actually. I can get out the measuring tape if you want. ;)

Exactly. And in this case it's not just a reference to a building. It's easy enough to have someone reference the flux capacitor or say "I just don't think I can take that kid of rejection. This is something else entirely. This is a reference to the production history of BttF. Die Hard could never inpire such glorious geekery.

Though Fringe is full of this. Diane Kruger is in the episode I'm watching now, and at one point she's trying to remember someone's name and starts listing off options. One option is "Gorlami". Awesome.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: michael x on June 14, 2010, 10:14:34 PM
(And, yes, if you look up Back to the Future you'll find an equally long list of references.  I'm afraid this one ends in a draw.)

It's longer, actually. I can get out the measuring tape if you want. ;)

Exactly. And in this case it's not just a reference to a building. It's easy enough to have someone reference the flux capacitor or say "I just don't think I can take that kid of rejection. This is something else entirely. This is a reference to the production history of BttF. Die Hard could never inpire such glorious geekery.

Though Fringe is full of this. Diane Kruger is in the episode I'm watching now, and at one point she's trying to remember someone's name and starts listing off options. One option is "Gorlami". Awesome.

Boondock Saints also has a well-known and (in)famous production history. Doesn't make the movie any better.  ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 14, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
(And, yes, if you look up Back to the Future you'll find an equally long list of references.  I'm afraid this one ends in a draw.)

It's longer, actually. I can get out the measuring tape if you want. ;)

Exactly. And in this case it's not just a reference to a building. It's easy enough to have someone reference the flux capacitor or say "I just don't think I can take that kid of rejection. This is something else entirely. This is a reference to the production history of BttF. Die Hard could never inpire such glorious geekery.

Though Fringe is full of this. Diane Kruger is in the episode I'm watching now, and at one point she's trying to remember someone's name and starts listing off options. One option is "Gorlami". Awesome.

Boondock Saints also has a well-known and (in)famous production history. Doesn't make the movie any better.  ;)

The point isn't the history. It's that the movie is so great it inspires references to not just elements from the film itself, but to it's production as well.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 14, 2010, 10:52:59 PM
(And, yes, if you look up Back to the Future you'll find an equally long list of references.  I'm afraid this one ends in a draw.)

It's longer, actually. I can get out the measuring tape if you want. ;)

Exactly. And in this case it's not just a reference to a building. It's easy enough to have someone reference the flux capacitor or say "I just don't think I can take that kid of rejection. This is something else entirely. This is a reference to the production history of BttF. Die Hard could never inpire such glorious geekery.

Though Fringe is full of this. Diane Kruger is in the episode I'm watching now, and at one point she's trying to remember someone's name and starts listing off options. One option is "Gorlami". Awesome.

Boondock Saints also has a well-known and (in)famous production history. Doesn't make the movie any better.  ;)

The point isn't the history. It's that the movie is so great it inspires references to not just elements from the film itself, but to it's production as well.

no the point is that if there were stories in DH there'd be references to them as well - keep CINECAST!ing that chicken though.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 15, 2010, 05:59:09 PM
Similarly, the reference to Reagan in BttF reinforces the greatness of his presidency.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 15, 2010, 06:06:57 PM
Similarly, the reference to Reagan in BttF reinforces the greatness of his presidency.

pixote

Similarly, Reagan's quoting of Back to the Future reinforces its greatness as a film.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on June 16, 2010, 12:54:32 AM
Similarly, the reference to Reagan in BttF reinforces the greatness of his presidency.

pixote

Similarly, Reagan's quoting of Back to the Future reinforces its greatness as a film.

And yet Die Hard still leads. The people know what they like.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 08:24:27 AM
Similarly, the reference to Reagan in BttF reinforces the greatness of his presidency.

pixote

Similarly, Reagan's quoting of Back to the Future reinforces its greatness as a film.

And yet Die Hard still leads. The people know what they like.

BttF won the poll on the main site by a huge margin. I suspect BttF will once again take the lead here eventually.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on June 16, 2010, 08:29:58 AM
Similarly, the reference to Reagan in BttF reinforces the greatness of his presidency.

pixote

Similarly, Reagan's quoting of Back to the Future reinforces its greatness as a film.

And yet Die Hard still leads. The people know what they like.

BttF won the poll on the main site by a huge margin. I suspect BttF will once again take the lead here eventually.

yeah, like casual filmspotters know what they're talking about.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 08:33:18 AM
Similarly, the reference to Reagan in BttF reinforces the greatness of his presidency.

pixote

Similarly, Reagan's quoting of Back to the Future reinforces its greatness as a film.

And yet Die Hard still leads. The people know what they like.

BttF won the poll on the main site by a huge margin. I suspect BttF will once again take the lead here eventually.

yeah, like casual filmspotters know what they're talking about.

Adam can tell you that even casual filmspotting listeners are highly intelligent and know enough about film to say that Back to the Future is better than Die Hard. It's the people here that don't know what they're talking about ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on June 16, 2010, 11:18:55 AM
Wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 11:22:49 AM
Wishful thinking.

Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on June 16, 2010, 11:29:14 AM
Wishful thinking.

Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

That would only lead to the inevitable backlash from enlightened and faithful readers. Be careful with what you do, boy...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 11:32:11 AM
Wishful thinking.

Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

That would only lead to the inevitable backlash from enlightened and faithful readers. Be careful with what you do, boy...

Yeah. It wouldn't be truthful anyway. A lot of those movies are quite good.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on June 16, 2010, 03:57:49 PM
Wishful thinking.

Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

 :D Now that is getting down right mean.  :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on June 16, 2010, 04:38:51 PM
Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

BFF terminated.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 05:04:55 PM
Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

BFF terminated.

I'm so sorry. I didn't really mean it. It was a heat of the moment type thing. How can I make it up to you?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on June 16, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

BFF terminated.

I'm so sorry. I didn't really mean it. It was a heat of the moment type thing. How can I make it up to you?

I just might make a Be Corndog's BFF competition, which would be open to all, including you, and you would have to compete, just like you made people compete for you before.

StarCarly exempt, of course.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 05:43:44 PM
Don't make me write a Reelists article about why the Bond franchise has consistently produced some of the very worst action films ever.

BFF terminated.

I'm so sorry. I didn't really mean it. It was a heat of the moment type thing. How can I make it up to you?

I just might make a Be Corndog's BFF competition, which would be open to all, including you, and you would have to compete, just like you made people compete for you before.

StarCarly exempt, of course.

I would pull a pixote the likes of which pixote itself could never dream of.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 16, 2010, 09:56:24 PM
I would pull a pixote the likes of which pixote itself could never dream of.

Electric sheep are beyond me.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on June 16, 2010, 09:59:46 PM
I would pull a pixote the likes of which pixote itself could never dream of.

Electric sheep are beyond me.

pixote

So that mystery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_androids_dream_of_electric_sheep%3F) has been resolved...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on June 16, 2010, 10:04:48 PM
I would pull a pixote the likes of which pixote itself could never dream of.

Electric sheep are beyond me.

pixote

So that mystery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_androids_dream_of_electric_sheep%3F) has been resolved...

It's all beginning to make sense!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: tinyholidays on June 17, 2010, 09:59:10 PM
Any chance of these two meeting up in the 80s bracket?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 17, 2010, 11:38:54 PM
Any chance of these two meeting up in the 80s bracket?

Die Hard's in region 7, Back to the Future in region 2 ... so if they meet, it wouldn't be until the Elite Eight, at the earliest.  Well, in less one of them loses early and then gets resurrected or swapped into the other's region ... my non-reading of the rules tells me that's possible.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on June 17, 2010, 11:39:37 PM
I got Die Hard in my current matchup, so watch out!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on June 17, 2010, 11:44:43 PM
my non-reading of the rules tells me that's possible.
:D
Swap-outs!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 18, 2010, 09:02:54 AM
I got Die Hard in my current matchup, so watch out!
Go crazy, like I did in the '90s bracket!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: UltimateOutsider on July 06, 2010, 07:58:52 PM
BTTF FTW.

Both movies are definitely nostalgic favorites, but Back to the Future was the ultimate teenage fantasy when I first saw it in the theater. I don't think I ever saw the sequels.

Also, I've never seen a message board poll that lasted for 2 years before. Kudos.

P.S. A guy in my office sometimes drives his DeLorean to work. He told me he seriously considered tricking it out Emmett Brown-style, but decided against it since he actually uses the car for transportation.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 06, 2010, 09:17:37 PM
these new people sure are dumb.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: tinyholidays on July 06, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
these new people sure are dumb.

Hug revoked.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 06, 2010, 09:58:11 PM
these new people sure are dumb.

Hug revoked.

indian hugger.

better for me anyway - there was like, massive beard-burn goin on there.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: tinyholidays on July 06, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
these new people sure are dumb.

Hug revoked.

indian hugger.

better for me anyway - there was like, massive beard-burn goin on there.

If I could grow a face beard, I would be the happiest woman in the Pacific Northwest. I would spend all day stroking it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mr C on July 07, 2010, 07:47:17 AM
Tough choice as I like both movies and both require a different frame of mind to watch them but I plumped for Back To The Future as this is the one I've probably watched most since I was a kid.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on August 16, 2010, 12:58:41 AM
Read this. (http://nflinjury.com/the-mcfly-scheme-time-travel-sports-betting.html)
 
(http://i35.tinypic.com/hriqvo.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 16, 2010, 09:38:28 AM
Read this. (http://nflinjury.com/the-mcfly-scheme-time-travel-sports-betting.html)
 
(http://i35.tinypic.com/hriqvo.jpg)

That is hilarious, though not entirely fair. It also doesntfollow the path taken in BttF Part 2 at all.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on August 16, 2010, 09:49:33 AM
Doesn't Bif succeed at the whole sports betting scheme. That's why he's rich and powerful when Marty goes back to the future. No?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 16, 2010, 09:54:02 AM
Doesn't Bif succeed at the whole sports betting scheme. That's why he's rich and powerful when Marty goes back to the future. No?

Yes, but he doesn't go back in time with future money. He goes back to give the book to his younger self. His younger self then waits till his 21st birthday and bets on races I believe. The point is, it isn't that farfetched an idea to do what Biff did. What this infographic doesn't get at is the very real possibility that Biff's actions could actually changes future sports results and render the almanac useless.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 16, 2010, 02:22:01 PM
Doesn't Bif succeed at the whole sports betting scheme. That's why he's rich and powerful when Marty goes back to the future. No?

Yes, but he doesn't go back in time with future money. He goes back to give the book to his younger self. His younger self then waits till his 21st birthday and bets on races I believe. The point is, it isn't that farfetched an idea to do what Biff did. What this infographic doesn't get at is the very real possibility that Biff's actions could actually changes future sports results and render the almanac useless.

How can someone betting change the result of a sporting matching, well except where those sports matches are corrupt?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on August 16, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
Doesn't Bif succeed at the whole sports betting scheme. That's why he's rich and powerful when Marty goes back to the future. No?

Yes, but he doesn't go back in time with future money. He goes back to give the book to his younger self. His younger self then waits till his 21st birthday and bets on races I believe. The point is, it isn't that farfetched an idea to do what Biff did. What this infographic doesn't get at is the very real possibility that Biff's actions could actually changes future sports results and render the almanac useless.

How can someone betting change the result of a sporting matching, well except where those sports matches are corrupt?

Butterfly effect my friend. Biff bets on some sporting events and makes a bunch of money. His making money and spending it and having higher stature in the World can then cause unintended things to happen, which might include the outcomes of certain matches or even whether those matches take place.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 16, 2010, 02:53:20 PM
Doesn't Bif succeed at the whole sports betting scheme. That's why he's rich and powerful when Marty goes back to the future. No?

Yes, but he doesn't go back in time with future money. He goes back to give the book to his younger self. His younger self then waits till his 21st birthday and bets on races I believe. The point is, it isn't that farfetched an idea to do what Biff did. What this infographic doesn't get at is the very real possibility that Biff's actions could actually changes future sports results and render the almanac useless.

How can someone betting change the result of a sporting matching, well except where those sports matches are corrupt?

Butterfly effect my friend. Biff bets on some sporting events and makes a bunch of money. His making money and spending it and having higher stature in the World can then cause unintended things to happen, which might include the outcomes of certain matches or even whether those matches take place.

Yes the butterfly effect could change a few results, but his almanac covered way more than a few results. It takes a massive belief in the butterfly effect to believe that all result would change. Then again if a few changed and it changed his behaviour (which it would as he would start losing, or not winning as big), it would tend to return to the original timeline. As the trilogy has shown is inclined to happen in the BttF world, matter of fact the film tends to ignore or refute the butterfly effect. For example when Marty knocks down the tree in the first film, the sole world change is the mall goes from the Twin Pines mall to the Lone Pine mall. If it was following the butterfly effect more closely the mall would have changed layout or not been there.
So given the world in the BttF universe, the butterfly effect, provably, is negligible to non-existent.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on September 19, 2010, 08:13:05 PM
Yeah, I didn't see Ashton Kutcher in Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Adrienne on September 20, 2010, 06:37:44 AM
Brucie baby!  :-*
Alan baby!  :-*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mirandasaurus on September 20, 2010, 10:14:37 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

I liked your logic :) Back to the Future ftw!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oneaprilday on September 20, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

I liked your logic :) Back to the Future ftw!
Nice work, Miranda. :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 20, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
I finally voted. Back to the Future. Christopher Lloyd is better than no Christopher Lloyd.

I liked your logic :) Back to the Future ftw!

I have decided that you are super awesome.  ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: dallegre on September 27, 2010, 07:30:45 PM
These are two movies that could be principally described as FUN. Back to the Future is one of the funnest movies I can think of, and as much as I love Die Hard, BttF is a blast to watch.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 27, 2010, 07:41:24 PM
These are two movies that could be principally described as FUN. Back to the Future is one of the funnest movies I can think of, and as much as I love Die Hard, BttF is a blast to watch.

I approve this message.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on September 27, 2010, 08:29:57 PM
These are two movies that could be principally described as FUN. Back to the Future is one of the funnest movies I can think of, and as much as I love Die Hard, BttF is a blast to watch.

It is a blast, but Die Hard is better.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on September 27, 2010, 10:20:26 PM
These are two movies that could be principally described as FUN. Back to the Future is one of the funnest movies I can think of, and as much as I love Die Hard, BttF is a blast to watch.

It is a blast, but Die Hard is better.

Which is why its winning the poll. :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on September 27, 2010, 10:21:00 PM
I changed my vote.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on September 27, 2010, 10:24:34 PM
The comeback has begun!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on September 27, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
The comeback has begun!

It's been a long time coming.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on September 27, 2010, 10:57:48 PM
Never!!!

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on September 28, 2010, 06:38:30 AM
I changed my vote.

NOOOOOO
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: UberGeekyGirl on November 04, 2010, 04:57:59 PM
I'm very happy that Die Hard is still winning.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 04, 2010, 05:06:16 PM
I'm very happy that Die Hard is still winning.

And I was just about to post about how happy I was that you came back to the boards.  ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on November 04, 2010, 05:16:32 PM
Hey guys, check out how many votes Die Hard has.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: dallegre on November 04, 2010, 06:30:07 PM
Hey guys, check out how many votes Die Hard has.

hehehe
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on November 04, 2010, 07:39:04 PM
Hey guys, check out how many votes Die Hard has.

.................
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 04, 2010, 08:57:55 PM
Did you just switch your vote, madness.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on November 04, 2010, 09:17:47 PM
Boooooooooo
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 04, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Hey guys, check out how many votes Die Hard has.

.................
Welcome to the light side.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on November 04, 2010, 10:58:27 PM
Glad we got rid of that obscene number. :P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on November 05, 2010, 06:58:21 AM
Glad we got rid of that obscene number. :P

It wasn't that obscene.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on November 05, 2010, 07:39:21 AM
"Wine 'em, Dine 'em, __ 'em." Based on your avatar Beavermoose, you'll get that.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on November 05, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
There's a website where you can ask stalin questions. I asked him this. He replied with:

"Although I had suffered smallpox as a child, I enjoyed robust good health for most of my life. In my seventies, though, I began to suffer from high blood-pressure. I suffered a massive stroke whilst on holiday in 1953 but no-one found me for an entire day (my bodyguards were too scared of disturbing me in my room in case I was concentrating). I died shortly afterwards, aged 73."

....ok.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on November 06, 2010, 01:14:02 PM
"Wine 'em, Dine 'em, __ 'em." Based on your avatar Beavermoose, you'll get that.

*Spits in your burger.*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Harbinger of Duh on November 15, 2010, 01:11:02 PM
Wandered over here on the basis of the firestorm over on the Newcomers thread. It was a really tough choice, but I eventually voted for BttF on the basis of the following tiebreakers.

1) BttF is funnier (and more fun in general) than Die Hard.
2) As a straight-up genre picture, Die Hard has a narrower appeal. If you don't care for action movies, you probably won't care much for Die Hard. (I guess you could make a similar argument against BttF, but I'm willing to bet the number of people who simply can't stand "Michael J. Fox teenager movies" or "80s time-travel movies" is lower than the people who don't like action movies.)
COROLLARY TO #2: I can watch BttF with my 8-year-old niece. Can't do that with Die Hard, at least not for about five more years.
3) Not to get over-serious about two 80s popcorn movies, but BttF is a more humane picture than Die Hard, in the sense that it seems (to me anyway) to have more affection for its characters as people. The majority of characters in Die Hard seem to be there mostly as props for Bruce Willis or Alan Rickman to interact with. Don't get me wrong, I like it in the context of a fun action movie, but I can't be the only person who occasionally has to turn off his brain during an action flick in order to not think about the fact that our hero is casually killing dozens of human beings.

Result? BttF, by the barest of margins.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 15, 2010, 01:19:06 PM
Harbinger of Duh is my new favourite Filmspotter. A title previously held by Colleen, but since she refuses to come back she no longer qualifies.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on November 15, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
Harbinger of Duh is my new favourite Filmspotter. A title previously held by Colleen, but since she refuses to come back she no longer qualifies.

She is missed
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Harbinger of Duh on November 16, 2010, 10:21:27 AM
Harbinger of Duh is my new favourite Filmspotter. A title previously held by Colleen, but since she refuses to come back she no longer qualifies.

Aww, FroHam! Does this mean we are BFFs, or is my new status contingent on continuing to agree with you?  :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 16, 2010, 10:22:18 AM
Harbinger of Duh is my new favourite Filmspotter. A title previously held by Colleen, but since she refuses to come back she no longer qualifies.

Aww, FroHam! Does this mean we are BFFs, or is my new status contingent on continuing to agree with you?  :)

It's less about agreeing with me and more about my freakishly fickle whims.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Adrienne on November 16, 2010, 12:46:06 PM
There's a website where you can ask stalin questions. I asked him this. He replied with:

"Although I had suffered smallpox as a child, I enjoyed robust good health for most of my life. In my seventies, though, I began to suffer from high blood-pressure. I suffered a massive stroke whilst on holiday in 1953 but no-one found me for an entire day (my bodyguards were too scared of disturbing me in my room in case I was concentrating). I died shortly afterwards, aged 73."

....ok.
Please, where is this website? I have a good one for Joe.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on November 16, 2010, 12:48:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8pGyM.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on November 16, 2010, 01:02:46 PM
And that is why Home Alone/Die Hard is the best double feature I have ever been to.

Also, any chance to watch this is welcome:
Home Alone - Angels With Filthy Souls (only the clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dGOfFbzvq4#)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on November 16, 2010, 01:38:56 PM
Awesome, Junior.

[Comma optional.]

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Adrienne on December 03, 2010, 07:21:44 AM
Quick, close this poll NOW
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on December 03, 2010, 07:43:04 AM
Has BTTF ever had the lead in this poll? Can't we just say Die Hard is slightly better ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 07:53:38 AM
BttF had the lead for a long time in the early days and then at a certain point Die Hard took over. But as more and more people vote it takes gets longer and longer between votes and as we can see BttF has been closing the gap. This poll can never closed. It will be open the day the Earth is destroyed.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Adrienne on December 03, 2010, 07:57:33 AM
This poll can never closed. It will be open the day the Earth is destroyed.
Will that be soon? If so, I'd better get the washing in.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 01:40:56 PM
Did edgar change his vote again?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Najemikon on December 03, 2010, 01:42:30 PM
Damn. Only been here a day and already I bring balance to the boards!  :D Honest, I didn't read the results first I just went with my gut and now they're on 71 each...

Oh. 72 now.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Antares on December 03, 2010, 01:43:04 PM
Die Hard
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
Najemikon, you're no Luke Skywalker just yet. It's now 71-72.

This is exciting.

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on December 03, 2010, 01:45:53 PM
Did edgar change his vote again?

No, I'm still in the BTTF camp. It's just the better film. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on December 03, 2010, 01:46:28 PM
It will be open the day the Earth is destroyed.

That got a laugh out of me. Good show.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 01:48:34 PM
edgar, have I told you lately that I love Goldfinger?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on December 03, 2010, 02:05:54 PM
edgar, have I told you lately that I love Goldfinger?

You just bought a great insurance plan against me ever voting against BTTF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 03, 2010, 02:17:56 PM
edgar, have I told you lately that I love Goldfinger?

You just bought a great insurance plan against me ever voting against BTTF.

What if I told you I was going to be reviewing, and watching, my first ever Bond film this month?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
That means nothing, Bill. I can always pull out the ace up my sleeve.

I secretly cannot wait for Bond 23, especially with Peter Morgan writing it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 03, 2010, 02:47:07 PM
what if I told you I am related to George Lazenby - and a vote for Die Hard might help you meet him......
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Adrienne on December 03, 2010, 02:48:41 PM
what if I told you I am related to George Lazenby - and a vote for Die Hard might help you meet him......
I've already voted for DH. And you tell George it's a pity he wasn't Bond for a bit longer... :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on December 03, 2010, 02:50:18 PM
Najemikon, you're no Luke Skywalker just yet. It's now 71-72.

Isn't somebody going to point out that Anakin, not Luke, brings balance to the force? ;D

edit: 72's! Eek!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 02:53:46 PM
So who is the Skywalker now?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Harbinger of Duh on December 03, 2010, 03:07:13 PM
Holy crap, neck and neck at 72 at the time of this posting. This is some white-knuckle polling going on here. Also, it's exciting to see BttF come back from trailing by some half-dozen votes. Go BttF! Grab Die Hard's rear bumper and skateboard to victory!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 03, 2010, 03:10:45 PM
that would be right - BttF has to hold onto Die Hard's bumber to get anywhere - just remember, if you are holding onto the rear bumper you are always behind. Also remember if you are pushing on the front bumper whist riding a hover board you are just in deep trouble!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 03, 2010, 03:14:57 PM
that would be right - BttF has to hold onto Die Hard's bumber to get anywhere - just remember, if you are holding onto the rear bumper you are always behind. Also remember if you are pushing on the front bumper whist riding a hover board you are just in deep trouble!

I think you are forgetting some things here. Marty holds onto the bumper in 1985 in order to get to school without putting in any serious effort. That's what I call getting ahead! And in both instances of front bumper action in 1955 Marty finds a way to get out of there, causing Biff crash. Basically, Die Hard needs to watch out for the manure truck because BttF is walking right over the car as we speak.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 03, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
yeah, but that's with Biff driving - remember Bruce Willis is the driver here - he never crashes!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on December 03, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
Bruce Willis doesn't crash but he may hit the occasional mime.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on December 03, 2010, 07:51:08 PM
John Mcclane is above this argument.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on December 04, 2010, 07:47:46 PM
edgar, have I told you lately that I love Goldfinger?

You just bought a great insurance plan against me ever voting against BTTF.
What he doesn't tell you is that he hated From Russia with Love.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 04, 2010, 11:40:45 PM
edgar, have I told you lately that I love Goldfinger?

You just bought a great insurance plan against me ever voting against BTTF.
What he doesn't tell you is that he hated From Russia with Love.

Actually, I like that movie. In fact, I have seen many of the Bond movies and I've liked/enjoyed most every one I've seen except the post-Goldeneye Brosnan movies, and Quantum of Solace.

EDIT: How did the poll go from 72-72 to 71-71?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 05, 2010, 09:14:29 AM
EDIT: How did the poll go from 72-72 to 71-71?

It's rigged.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on December 05, 2010, 06:54:05 PM
EDIT: How did the poll go from 72-72 to 71-71?

I'm guessing some recently deleted spammers had taken the time to vote in this poll. Because it's that important!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on December 05, 2010, 07:25:15 PM
oh, DH is back on top.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 05, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
oh, DH is back on top.

Woo-hoo!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 05, 2010, 09:32:34 PM
Back to 72-72. Something's fishy here.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on December 05, 2010, 09:32:55 PM
Back to 72-72. Something's fishy here.

Yeah, I don't like these shenanigans.

If I ever found out people were voting in this sacred poll under duplicate logins, I would argue very strongly for lifetime banishment from the forums.

THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF! I'M VERY SERIOUS RIGHT NOW!

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 05, 2010, 09:44:10 PM
"I am serious. Look. This is my serious face."

(http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/seriousface.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on December 05, 2010, 09:45:21 PM
FYI, movie night tomorrow is a showing of Back to the Future, not Die Hard. Winsauce.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on December 05, 2010, 10:03:02 PM
FYI, the Whiteboard Podcast after the next one is going to be about Die Hard, not Back to the Future. Winlemonade.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on December 05, 2010, 10:03:48 PM
I'm removing my vote. It's been ages since I've seen either. I'm not sure I even saw Die Hard or BTTF all the way through.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on December 05, 2010, 10:03:55 PM
If I ever found out people were voting in this sacred poll under duplicate logins, I would argue very strongly for lifetime banishment from the forums.
I know what's happening.

That's not what's happening.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on December 05, 2010, 10:04:39 PM
FYI, the Whiteboard Podcast after the next one is going to be about Die Hard, not Back to the Future. Winlemonade.

Here is an example of a kid that just doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 05, 2010, 10:05:01 PM
I'm removing my vote. It's been ages since I've seen either. I'm not sure I even saw Die Hard or BTTF all the way through.

Your original impression was the correct one!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on December 05, 2010, 10:06:18 PM
1SO, are you suggesting that the hamster had a litter and taught them how to vote?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on December 05, 2010, 10:15:27 PM
Back to 72-72. Something's fishy here.

Balance must be kept.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 05, 2010, 10:15:56 PM
1SO, are you suggesting that the hamster had a litter and taught them how to vote?

I did not. I actually have faith in reasonable human beings to come here and vote for Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on December 05, 2010, 10:38:53 PM
It's pretty clear that some people keep removing and changing their vote.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Tim on December 06, 2010, 04:16:53 AM
oh dear, they are a changin

Blackmore's Night - Times they are changin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz8HSnmhXAk#)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 06, 2010, 04:20:04 AM
73-70!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Adrienne on December 06, 2010, 06:50:14 AM
I'm going to have to invent myself 3 new personas and vote. Quick.  :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 06, 2010, 07:03:29 AM
73-70!

Something is very, very wrong here.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on December 06, 2010, 12:55:08 PM
Something is very, very wrong here.

Yeah, why'd it take so long for the results to start making sense?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 06, 2010, 05:26:01 PM
Something is very, very wrong here.

Yeah, why'd it take so long for the results to start making sense?

They made sense a week ago. You obviously didn't catch this new glitch.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mosca on December 08, 2010, 02:56:50 PM
L :o  :o k. Die Hard
Oh, this did make me smile.  :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 08, 2010, 03:03:33 PM
Events at this poll get stranger and stranger by the day.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 08, 2010, 05:24:18 PM
L :o  :o k. Die Hard
Oh, this did make me smile.  :D

Yes it does.

Good to see you back.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 08, 2010, 05:59:16 PM
Who just changed their vote?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 08, 2010, 08:53:31 PM
It's been a truly exciting week in the most important question mankind has to offer.



Yes, it is true.  Mankind is often insipid.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 08, 2010, 08:54:58 PM
What I want to know is who are these people who keep changing their votes?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 09, 2010, 02:52:45 AM
Good to see Die Hard back in the lead, where it should be. There does seem to be a lot of vote switching.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 09, 2010, 03:08:02 AM
Yeah, now one of the votes for Die Hard got removed. It's all very strange but also very exciting.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on December 09, 2010, 12:17:21 PM
This poll is definitely rigged.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 09, 2010, 12:23:01 PM
And the rigging is getting it correct.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 09, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
What I want to know is who are these people who keep changing their votes?

It's actually quite annoying to me, don't know why though.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 09, 2010, 02:21:04 PM
So weird. Where did two extra votes for Die Hard come from. Why was one of them removed in the first place? What the heck is going on here?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on December 09, 2010, 04:39:52 PM
This poll has achieved sentience. It's going to make Terminator the winner.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on December 09, 2010, 05:22:49 PM
WTF. At this point I think I'm just going to ignore this poll. Votes being removed and switching every day hardly makes it a valid poll. A switch every now and then after someone truly reconsiders each film is fine, but this is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 09, 2010, 06:31:33 PM
Is there any other poll acting this way?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chardy999 on December 09, 2010, 07:57:25 PM
Is there any other poll acting this way?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on December 10, 2010, 12:53:23 AM
I've confessed. (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6630.msg546935#msg546935)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on December 10, 2010, 01:03:22 PM
BTW, 143 votes which is probably almost 3X the response of any other poll.  Well done!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on December 10, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
BTW, 143 votes which is probably almost 3X the response of any other poll.  Well done!
Weirdly, the original (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3272.0) random movie death match (between Juno and Little Miss Sunshine) is the second most popular one, with 85 total votes.

edit: Scratch that. 90 votes for No Country for Old Men versus Children of Men (with the better film still down by ten votes, dammit!). I'm surprised Fargo versus Pulp Fiction isn't more popular.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on January 20, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
All Alan Rickman needs to do is show up in a film and that film is automatically made better.

FroHam CHANGED HIS VOTE!!!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on January 20, 2011, 07:26:08 PM
No I did not. Rickman makes a film better than it would be otherwise, but not necessarily better than another film.

I can only imagine what awesomeness the world would have been exposed to had Alan Rickman shown his face in BttF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on January 23, 2011, 01:13:42 AM
No I did not. Rickman makes a film better than it would be otherwise, but not necessarily better than another film.

I can only imagine what awesomeness the world would have been exposed to had Alan Rickman shown his face in BttF.

We would have all achieved Nirvana.  I mean the one with the Buddha, not the one with Kurt.  We can experience Kurt pretty much anytime, and I don't think he would have made BttF or Die Hard any better.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on January 23, 2011, 10:16:06 AM
(http://sale.images.woot.com/It_Came_Out_Of_NowherefdpReckoningWide.png)
Out of nowhere...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Hot Biscuit Slim on March 05, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard! BTTF, son!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mosca on March 06, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard! BTTF, son!
Well, I have to say that is a very brave vote on your part... :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 06, 2011, 04:38:33 PM
Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard! BTTF, son!
Well, I have to say that is a very brave vote on your part... :D

Seriously, even I can't agree with the first half of that. Die Hard 2 is so darn boring and stupid.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 06, 2011, 04:39:08 PM
btw, We are at 150 votes and this is tied. That is crazy.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on March 06, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
75 people are wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on March 06, 2011, 05:51:14 PM
Back to the Future  75 (50%)
Die Hard  75 (50%)
 
Total Voters: 148

 ???
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 06, 2011, 05:51:57 PM
Back to the Future  75 (50%)
Die Hard  75 (50%)
 
Total Voters: 148

 ???


hahahahahah Pinko strikes again!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 06, 2011, 06:59:41 PM
What is happening?  :o
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 06, 2011, 07:00:39 PM
Votes are being switched again.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 06, 2011, 07:05:38 PM
So in other words, FroHam has resorted to bribery.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 06, 2011, 07:06:22 PM
More likely 1SO screwing around again.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on March 06, 2011, 09:03:07 PM
I swear, I've stayed with Die Hard. No switching from me.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/168u8ib.jpg)


...and that's having just rewatched Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 06, 2011, 09:15:17 PM
There is just no reasoning with you is there, 1SO?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on March 07, 2011, 01:56:24 AM
Nobody in Die Hard is as bad as Claudia Wells.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on March 07, 2011, 01:58:28 AM
Nobody in Die Hard is as bad as Claudia Wells.

You're exaggerating. She's fine. Hardly has a role. Plenty of the goons in Die Hard are much worse.

EDIT: Though both films play on over-acting and silliness enough that they all fit pretty well.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Totoro on March 07, 2011, 04:45:29 AM
Yeah, I switched. Back to the Future is just more imaginative,IMO. Both are great though.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bill Thompson on March 07, 2011, 08:04:48 AM
Only one film actually changed the way its genre could be viewed, that's why every vote should go to the far superior Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on March 07, 2011, 09:27:21 AM
back to 150 votes from 148 total voters... its obvious that The Matrix is the correct answer to this poll.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on March 07, 2011, 01:21:46 PM
Without hesitation, Paul Feig voted for Die Hard over Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on March 07, 2011, 01:24:04 PM
But ask him who Sam Weir would vote for.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 'Noke on March 07, 2011, 01:36:27 PM
back to 150 votes from 148 total voters... its obvious that The MatrixGhost Dog is the correct answer to this poll.

:P
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Mosca on March 08, 2011, 12:28:51 PM
Well, I got the chance to vote twice, as Adrienne (Mosca deleted) and Mosca (Mosca renewed).
And both times it was DIE HARD  :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 08, 2011, 12:43:34 PM
Equilibrium has returned...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on March 08, 2011, 05:49:09 PM
FroHam and I debate Back to the Future (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8652.msg577078#msg577078).
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on March 10, 2011, 11:46:23 AM
Still the vote keeps on changing, and numbers do not add up.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Rothwyn on March 31, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Important question - would this hypothetical situation be any time close to the Christmas season? Because if so, there is only one correct answer:

(http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/749/749630/die-hard-20061206031011294.jpg)

I'm gonna be honest - I think Die Hard is the best "pure" American action film ever made. Aliens is a clockwork masterpiece, but is almost more a thriller with lots of sci-fi and horror overlay. Raiders is pretty damn near perfect too, but falls a bit more into the adventure serial genre (ala The Adventures of Robin Hood or the Tarzan films) than contemporary action.

Die Hard is amazing. It uses location in its storytelling and set pieces like most modern action films never bother to try. It revolutionized the idea of what a hard-assed action hero could be in a decade dominated by Stallone and Schwarzenegger. It has some of the best hero/villain interplay in the genre (seriously, the tension and dramatic irony in the "Bill Clay" scene is freakin' gorgeous). It has well-drawn likable characters (even villains), awesome stunts and action beats, a great sense of build-up and pay-off for minor conflicts as well as the final showdown of the film, and - most importantly - it spends the better part of twenty minutes just establishing character and location.

I've timed this son-of-a-bitch: the film is underway for something like 17 minutes before there's even a single gunshot. Seriously, no action whatsoever (in one of the most iconic American ACTION films out there) for over a quarter of an hour. How many action films today have balls that big?

You know what, screw it - I'd say watch Die Hard first no matter what time of year it is. Sure it's the best Christmas movie ever, but it's also just flat-out a better film than Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on March 31, 2011, 10:48:54 PM
Broke the tie and in the right direction too.   :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: KinkyCyborg on April 11, 2011, 09:57:19 PM
Both are good movies and both could easily be chosen depending on the particular mood of the viewer on a given day but overall I'd have to go with Die Hard but with a respectful tip of the hat to Back To The Future. Die Hard is just one of those movies that no matter where you are or what it is showing on, you just have to sit down and watch it.

KC
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Clovis8 on April 11, 2011, 10:01:10 PM
Both are good movies and both could easily be chosen depending on the particular mood of the viewer on a given day but overall I'd have to go with Die Hard but with a respectful tip of the hat to Back To The Future. Die Hard is just one of those movies that no matter where you are or what it is showing on, you just have to sit down and watch it.

KC

Yay (take that froham)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on April 11, 2011, 10:02:36 PM
I'm okay with the majority being wrong.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on April 11, 2011, 10:28:53 PM
I'm okay with the majority being wrong.

In fact, I prefer it. ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Rothwyn on April 12, 2011, 09:41:07 AM
I'm okay with the majority being wrong.

So am I, but sometimes (read: now) they're not.  :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: edgar00 on April 12, 2011, 08:51:03 PM
The tide has turned...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: FroHam X on April 13, 2011, 09:15:55 PM
I'm okay with the majority being wrong.

So am I, but sometimes (read: now) they're not.  :D

Donald Glover cannot be wrong. (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/04/tr_exclusive_donald_glovers_10_favorite_nerd_thing.php)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on June 28, 2011, 10:39:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vTbN3.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Fugee on June 29, 2011, 11:24:07 AM
All is right in the world
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on September 22, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
#73 —
Back to the Future
(Robert Zemeckis, 1985)

#32 —
Die Hard
(John McTiernan, 1988)

When old age shall this generation waste,
Thou shalt remain, in midst of other woe
Than ours, a friend to man, to whom thou say'st,
'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.'


pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 22, 2011, 06:36:24 PM
So Keats would vote for Die Hard?

Or does Pixote have a different idea of "beauty" than I?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Ryecatcher on September 30, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
Bit late to weigh in, but...

Call me a bastard, but I cannot stand Michael J Fox as an actor -- although I am very sorry that he has become ill.

Die Hard in a landslide. Explosions, guns and Principal Vernon uttering lines like 'We're gonna need some more FBI guys, I guess'... I mean really, what more could you ask for?

 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: AAAutin on September 30, 2011, 12:21:14 PM
A time-traveling DeLorean.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on October 01, 2011, 05:11:17 AM
A week or so, ago, it was 80/80, now it is 79/83, go team Die Hard  ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: george96 on October 02, 2011, 09:40:30 AM
Not even close. Back to the Future.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkCrystal on January 25, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Gotta go with Die Hard on this one.

I think Die Hard fits a category of "Mainstream hugely popular movies that everyone knows and quotes...that doesn't often get it's due as a film" (see also:  Say Anything).  The first half hour especially is basically a Screenwriting 101 Textbook.  Tightly written, characters fleshed out, every single line of dialogue reveals both character and furthers the plot, cinematography is whip-smart and a perfect combination of style without being too flashy, that effectively sets the right mood (tension, action, levity, humor), throughout the movie.

And the introduction of Carl Winslow being a cut to a closeup of his hand grabbing donuts from a 7-11?  Classic.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on January 25, 2012, 11:07:57 AM
Hostess Twinkies
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jim brown on January 25, 2012, 11:12:23 AM
And the introduction of Carl Winslow being a cut to a closeup of his hand grabbing donuts from a 7-11?  Classic.

Hostess Twinkies

"God is in the details." - Mies van der Rohe

 8)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on January 25, 2012, 07:51:04 PM
Tied!  (again)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jim brown on January 25, 2012, 07:56:37 PM
Tied at 85 apiece.

Tiebreaker: whichever movie came out either in or closest to 1985 wins.

Everybody cool with that?   ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on January 25, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
How about, whichever movie has the most blood wins?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on January 25, 2012, 08:11:53 PM
I think we all know that the best things happened in 1988. Die Hard, Junior's birth, so on and so forth.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jim brown on January 25, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
I think we all know that the best things happened in 1988. Die Hard, Junior's birth, so on and so forth.

If only there was a way to go back in time and prove that theory.  Man, that would be genius.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on January 25, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
I was there both years.  In 1985 I remember a bunch of vomiting.  In 1988 I got engaged.   The better year is clear.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on January 26, 2012, 12:42:16 AM
Huey Lewis voted for Die Hard. (The News voted for Top Gun.)

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 02, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
This poll should not be on the page 3 (its not curvy or topless), so *bump*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: SeanGather on August 20, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Chalk one up for Die Hard!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 20, 2012, 09:07:21 AM
Chalk one up for Die Hard!

Hi, my name is pixote, and I just fell a little bit in love with you.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: SeanGather on August 20, 2012, 10:21:21 AM
I welcome your love with open arms.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on January 18, 2013, 12:40:38 PM
4 1/2 Years Later K&L just announced the next Sacred Cow episode will be all about how Die Hard is the better film.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on January 18, 2013, 01:27:42 PM
4 1/2 Years Later K&L just announced the next Sacred Cow episode will be all about how Die Hard is the better film.

I'm not sure that's how they phrased it. ;D

I'm glad to see BttF has re-tied the poll. Hopefully we can right the great wrong we've lived with for too long.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: verbALs on January 18, 2013, 01:40:17 PM
I think we all know that the best things happened in 1988. Die Hard, Junior's birth, so on and so forth.

If only there was a way to go back in time and prove that theory.  Man, that would be genius.
The man had class.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: shuabert on January 18, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
Gotta go with Die Hard on this one.

I think Die Hard fits a category of "Mainstream hugely popular movies that everyone knows and quotes...that doesn't often get it's due as a film" (see also:  Say Anything).  The first half hour especially is basically a Screenwriting 101 Textbook.  Tightly written, characters fleshed out, every single line of dialogue reveals both character and furthers the plot, cinematography is whip-smart and a perfect combination of style without being too flashy, that effectively sets the right mood (tension, action, levity, humor), throughout the movie.

This is exactly what I was saying to my mom, who finally watched Die Hard for the first time this year during our annual Christmas viewing, while she kept getting distracted during the opening scenes. "Pay attention," I said, "everything that is happening right now will be important later on."
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on January 31, 2013, 11:33:18 AM
At the time of this tie, I think it's good to take a break and ask some important questions:

Biff's Question Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iwY5o2fsG7Y#!)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on February 10, 2013, 03:54:13 PM
Die Hard & BTTF (A Sunday diversion)

At first John McClane is like "huh, I don't get this technology crap".
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/find.jpg)

But then 99% of the dialogue happens through walkie-talkies.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/at-first.jpg)
 
So McFly says "Deal with it, John".
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/deal.jpg)

And John does, delighted.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/embraces.jpg)

Meanwhile at the Nakatomi Clock Tower...
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/clock-3.jpg)

...a crazy old man unplugs the city's electricity.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/clock%202.jpg)

And John is left in the dark with nothing but a zippo.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/fire.jpg)

McFly calls in the snipers.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call1.jpg)

Who start shooting at the old guy.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call2.jpg)

Which causes John to drop his lighter
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call3.jpg)

Which lights some paint cans on fire
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call4.jpg)

Which blows up the whole bottom floor.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call5.jpg)

Which lights the road on fire.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call6.jpg)

Which John rushes to extinguish.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/misc movies/call7.jpg)

Then George McFly wakes up from his nightmare.
(http://noffload.net/uploader/files/1/dream.jpg)

The end.

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on February 10, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on February 10, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
Another smirnoff special.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: shuabert on February 10, 2013, 04:23:38 PM
Can someone with too much time on their hands and FinalCut please make that movie? We have the technology.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sandy on February 11, 2013, 05:04:11 PM
 :))

There's a slight possibility of overload.


Mind blowing storyboarding smirnoff!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ¡Keith! on March 11, 2013, 11:27:31 AM
Can someone add noff's mash-up as an option?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 28, 2013, 02:39:51 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img837/1853/83uc.jpg)
Die Hard
John McTiernan, 1988
Votes               Average               
Score
29
8.63
8.503

(http://imageshack.us/a/img404/7906/ykhi.jpg)
Back to the Future
Robert Zemeckis, 1985
Votes               Average               
Score
33
7.95
7.952

Yes! Yesss! Oh, let me taste your tears, McFly!
Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!
Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! My-yummy!

                                                          — John McClane


:)

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on June 28, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
Telling us what we all knew but this poll refused to acknowledge for so long.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 28, 2013, 02:44:34 PM
Empirical proof that Die Hard is the better film.  8)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on June 28, 2013, 03:13:40 PM
Now I want you to out the 4 people among us who have never seen Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sandy on June 28, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2d8kkzn.jpg)

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on June 28, 2013, 06:26:21 PM
Next time you come to Portland, Sandy, I know what we're watching!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sandy on June 28, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
 :D

Only if you and your family quote along while we're watching it!

That would make me laugh.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on June 28, 2013, 06:38:38 PM
:D

Only if you and your family quote along while we're watching it!

That would make me laugh.

I could quote it.  I think Diane hasn't seen it since the early 90s.  None of my kids have seen it, although I've been trying to convince them.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on June 28, 2013, 08:41:45 PM
Wow, that's a lot of votes.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: don s. on June 28, 2013, 10:21:07 PM
I swear I didn't know I was breaking a tie just now.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on June 28, 2013, 10:28:49 PM
I swear I didn't know I was breaking a tie just now.

You're the best man I know. Marry me.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: don s. on June 28, 2013, 11:01:24 PM
OK, but only if you can explain how 94+93=184.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: AAAutin on June 28, 2013, 11:14:01 PM
The fix is in, Don. Just as I always suspected. The good citizens of Hill Valley demand a recount!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on September 19, 2013, 12:43:58 PM
5 years. 185 votes and we're no closer to an answer.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on September 21, 2013, 02:46:16 PM
There IS no answer. 

It is an existential mystery.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: HazyDavy on April 09, 2014, 01:29:47 PM
Yeah, sorry, no contest there. Die Hard is still a pretty solid entertaining action flick though.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 09, 2014, 02:24:41 PM
Shoulda kept my mouth shut.  :-X
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: HazyDavy on April 09, 2014, 03:43:01 PM
sorry (not really). wasn't aware I'd be ruining a perfect equilibrium with just one click of the mouse. then again: it actually feels more like i restored a little bit of order and balance in the universe. let's hope it stays that way.  8) ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on April 09, 2014, 03:51:38 PM
Someone had to be the one to tip the scales in the obviously correct direction. ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Jared on April 09, 2014, 04:56:17 PM
shit just realized that Id never actually cast my vote here. Back to the Future by a hair.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on April 09, 2014, 09:05:21 PM
WHAT HAVE I DONE?


*cries*
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: The Deer Hunter on April 09, 2014, 09:19:23 PM
+1 for Die Hard from me.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oneaprilday on April 10, 2014, 02:12:03 AM
Yeah, sorry, no contest there. Die Hard is still a pretty solid entertaining action flick though.
Yes!

shit just realized that Id never actually cast my vote here. Back to the Future by a hair.
Yes!

WHAT HAVE I DONE?
The right thing.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on April 10, 2014, 10:54:34 AM
+1 for Die Hard from me.

At least there's SOME measure of sanity around here.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: corey.atad on July 02, 2014, 10:34:56 AM
BOOM (http://thedissolve.com/features/the-dissolve-canon/642-the-50-greatest-summer-blockbusters-part-3-the-top/)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on July 02, 2014, 10:44:50 AM
That ranking is invalidated by the placement of either above Jurassic Park.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on July 02, 2014, 10:55:53 AM
Huh.  I thought Die Hard was released at Christmas.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jdc on July 02, 2014, 11:11:12 AM
BOOM (http://thedissolve.com/features/the-dissolve-canon/642-the-50-greatest-summer-blockbusters-part-3-the-top/)

You can't vote twice if you support the wrong side;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on July 02, 2014, 11:25:53 AM
That ranking is invalidated by the placement of either above Jurassic Park.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on July 02, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
That ranking is invalidated by the inclusion of Jurassic Park.

fixed
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 02, 2014, 01:36:04 PM
BOOM (http://thedissolve.com/features/the-dissolve-canon/642-the-50-greatest-summer-blockbusters-part-3-the-top/)
Who left the back door unlocked?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Lobby on July 02, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
BOOM (http://thedissolve.com/features/the-dissolve-canon/642-the-50-greatest-summer-blockbusters-part-3-the-top/)

Is this...you?

 :o :) <3 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 02, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Just deleted my Bookmark for The Dissolve. Can't waste time on a website that gets it so egregiously wrong.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on July 02, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
Just deleted my Bookmark for The Dissolve. Can't waste time on a website that gets it so egregiously wrong.

Are you sure you didn't read the list in the wrong direction? It's correct on my screen. ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Lobby on July 03, 2014, 02:40:15 AM
So apparently I hadn't cast my vote here. I haven't seen either movie for so many years, so my recollections are vague to say the least. But for whatever it's worth: Die Hard it is. Might change on a rewatch!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on July 03, 2014, 05:11:51 AM
And Lobby returns this one to a tie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 03, 2014, 07:22:52 AM
Balance is restored.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on July 03, 2014, 09:59:52 AM
Huzzah!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: The Deer Hunter on July 03, 2014, 04:18:41 PM
Almost 6 years later and it's a draw.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on July 03, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
It's funny to me how the same poll on the main Filmspotting website was clearly handed to BTTF.  I wonder what the differences are?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on July 03, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
It's funny to me how the same poll on the main Filmspotting website was clearly handed to BTTF.  I wonder what the differences are?

That one wasn't rigged. ;)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on July 03, 2014, 07:59:59 PM
Hey now!  I got my three votes just like everyone else!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on November 02, 2014, 03:38:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh1Fcr8kG6E#t=282

Listen to what Live Free or Die Hard costar Justin Long says at the 4:42 mark.

Shameful.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 02, 2014, 04:21:12 PM
Disgusting.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: mañana on November 02, 2014, 04:28:10 PM
PC voted Die Hard.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Melvil on November 02, 2014, 04:48:39 PM
Listen to what Live Free or Die Hard costar Justin Long says at the 4:42 mark.

I knew there was a reason to like him.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: ferris on May 08, 2015, 10:58:35 AM
Listen to what Live Free or Die Hard costar Justin Long says at the 4:42 mark.

I knew there was a reason to dislike him.

You misspelled a word there.  No worries I fixed it
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on May 08, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
Who broke the poll?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 18, 2015, 05:11:37 AM
Oh my, this seems to be a perfect tie.

One of the best action movies pre-2000 > a corny teenage fantasy about nonsensical time travel

This really shouldn't be a tie.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 18, 2015, 05:16:55 AM
So you voted for Back to the Future?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 18, 2015, 05:18:08 AM
Naturally.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on May 18, 2015, 05:18:36 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on May 18, 2015, 08:47:11 AM
And the balance is restored.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 18, 2015, 09:01:31 AM
You can call me Vader, or The Chosen One, as you prefer.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Paul Phoenix on July 07, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
WHOA HO! My vote made it a complete tie!

(oh never mind, it's been a tie before :-X)

Yeah, Back to the Future. No doubts now. I could maybe find one or two moment in Die Hard that I'll say "Get on with it!" Not so in BttF.

Don't force me to take out my Criterion copy of the movie and rewatch it tonight! I will review it! I will! ;D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 07, 2015, 09:11:56 PM
Die Hard hit 100. Time to lock the poll.  :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on July 07, 2015, 10:29:47 PM
101! Dalmatians!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Knocked Out Loaded on July 07, 2015, 10:34:56 PM
 102 :D
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on July 07, 2015, 10:36:17 PM
Last time I watched BttF, I thought, "I wonder if I've seen this before?"  Then I realized, Oh yeah, in the first half of this movie.

And BttF 2
And BttF 3...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Paul Phoenix on July 08, 2015, 07:20:57 AM
I'm preparing a thorough analysis of the movie to present why each scene of the movie is interesting, iconic, or funny to me. Here's a preview so far:

http://movieliberty.blogspot.sg/2015/07/back-to-future-hadm-hardly-dull-moment.html

Of course, I'll be doing the same with Die Hard later in the week and see how it matches up. I doubt it will survive the kind of criteria I've given.

Edit
Great Scott. The experiment is a total failure. BttF gains a total of:

Interesting Points = 17
Iconic Points = 12
Entertainment Points = 23
Mom Crush Points = 4
Dullness Points = -44

Negative 44! Great Scott! BttF isn't as iconic or amazing as I remembered! I'm reminded of how ineffective minute-by-minute analysis of film can be! lol Man, with the kind of scenes I called dull in BttF, I highly doubt Die Hard would be lower than Negative 50 by the end of the film! Holly Molly.

Oh well. I'll watch Die Hard some time soon to access whether if it's better than BttF - without the nitpicking this time.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on July 08, 2015, 08:14:31 AM
1SO in particular has done a number of chapter by chapter analyses (I've done a couple) and it definitely makes for a tricky way to view films. I'm sure good films still hold up relative to bad films, but it has a way of making all films seem a bit less hearty, using their strengths to patch over their weaknesses.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 08, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
I started one on Days of Heaven. I'd love to finish it one day when I have way more time than I know what to do with.  :-\

Also, a three point gap! Woo! Go Die Hard!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Bondo on July 08, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
Surprised no one has posted this blood libel (http://www.vox.com/2015/7/1/8876073/back-to-the-future-anniversary-30) to this thread yet.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Paul Phoenix on July 08, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
Surprised no one has posted this blood libel (http://www.vox.com/2015/7/1/8876073/back-to-the-future-anniversary-30) to this thread yet.
Quote
everything that occurs early on serves as a setup for a payoff you might not realize is going to come later

Yeah, I think it's due to all that setting up that the sum of its parts don't look better individually than the sum of its whole. It was probably unfair for me to analyze the film like that. Oh well.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on December 28, 2015, 09:14:36 PM
Finally watched Die Hard. Liked it. Voted "Back To The Future".
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jdc on December 28, 2015, 09:55:45 PM
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong;)

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on December 29, 2015, 06:32:05 AM
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong;)

(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41799_155056944535260_6107_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: philip918 on December 29, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
This poll is amazing. I think the solution is clear: Back to Die Hard
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chardy999 on December 29, 2015, 04:53:42 PM
Time for the real thing, Bill.
Title: Filmspotting Ultimate Movie Death Match - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on December 29, 2015, 10:37:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bn121d5Fk8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kXMaToMQTE
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 31, 2015, 12:18:22 AM
In the Honest Trailer universe, BTTF is better than Die Hard.

But ONLY in that universe.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: The Deer Hunter on January 08, 2016, 06:17:26 PM
I love that this has existed for almost 8 years and it's been pretty much 50/50 the whole time.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on February 17, 2016, 09:54:11 PM
There is something wrong with the poll.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jdc on February 17, 2016, 10:53:57 PM
I agree..
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on February 17, 2016, 11:02:21 PM
The poll has been around so long that 3 people who voted are no longer members.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chardy999 on February 18, 2016, 01:11:46 AM
The poll has been around so long that 3 people who voted are no longer members.

Banned? Or account deleted of their own volition?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: saltine on February 18, 2016, 01:25:47 AM
Believe it or not, the ban list is very very short!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jdc on February 18, 2016, 04:34:19 AM
Can they be removed (if they voted for BttF)?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Beavermoose on February 18, 2016, 06:56:10 AM
The accounts just get purged after being inactive for so long?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chardy999 on February 18, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
The accounts just get purged after being inactive for so long?

Can't be right looking at the member list??? saltine has me puzzled though. Must be a technical thing :S
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: don s. on April 07, 2016, 06:29:15 PM
The discrepancy between members and votes cast can be explained very easily: superdelegates.


JOKE VOID OUTSIDE OF THE U.S.A.
EXPIRATION DATE: JULY 31, 2016
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on April 07, 2016, 08:58:24 PM
Wait, an uneven number of people voted but somehow this is at 50-50 ? Has Matthew Broderick been counting the ballots ?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jdc on April 07, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
It is the only explanation for Die Hard not being the leader...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Fugee on April 07, 2016, 09:11:34 PM
It fills me with joy to come back and see that this thread is still getting replies. I love you all.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: saltine on April 07, 2016, 09:20:12 PM
Wait, an uneven number of people voted but somehow this is at 50-50 ? Has Matthew Broderick been counted the ballots ?

A few accts were deleted. Their votes remain in the poll but affect the member count.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on April 08, 2016, 11:58:46 PM
The accounts just get purged after being inactive for so long?

Can't be right looking at the member list??? saltine has me puzzled though. Must be a technical thing :S

Most of the BTTF votes are from people from the future who, knowing that in 8 more years Die Hard runs away with the poll, have gone back to 1988 to spread as much negative word of mouth as possible about the film, and then waited 20 years to vote in the poll and hopefully change the outcome. DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN! Vote Die Hard today!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Teproc on July 24, 2016, 04:57:40 PM
The accounts just get purged after being inactive for so long?

Can't be right looking at the member list??? saltine has me puzzled though. Must be a technical thing :S

Most of the BTTF votes are from people from the future who, knowing that in 8 more years Die Hard runs away with the poll, have gone back to 1988 to spread as much negative word of mouth as possible about the film, and then waited 20 years to vote in the poll and hopefully change the outcome. DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN! Vote Die Hard today!

You've convinced me.

Well, either that or actually watching it did.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: chardy999 on August 31, 2016, 05:59:57 PM
This is a landslide now.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on March 03, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
It is back to parity. 105-105.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on March 04, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
Considering these contentious and uncompromising times, when will this question finally split the forum into two separate, warring forums?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on March 04, 2017, 03:08:53 PM
Civil war!

One side gets a Delorean, and the other gets machine guns.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on March 04, 2017, 03:19:53 PM
yippee ki yay
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 06, 2017, 07:37:27 AM
Civil war!

Starring:

DarkeningHumour as Iron Man
Bondo as the Vision
1SO as War Machine
MartinTeller as Spider-Man
chardy as Black Panther
OAD as Black Widow

Corndog as Captain America
oldkid as Ant-Man
Teproc as the Winter Soldier
Junior as the Falcon
jdc as Hawkeye
Sandy as Scarlet Witch

and...

saltine as Nick Fury

Everyone else is in the Guardians of the Galaxy team or hasn't been released yet.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: saltine on March 06, 2017, 07:46:02 AM
Why do I always have to be Nick Fury?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 06, 2017, 07:46:47 AM
Can I be Groot?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Teproc on March 06, 2017, 08:35:46 AM
Well, I really am a brainwashed murderer IRL, so that all makes sense.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on March 06, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Mark me down for the raccoon.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 06, 2017, 08:47:20 AM
Well, I really am a brainwashed murderer IRL, so that all makes sense.

You are the foreigner with the accent, so Russian killer it had to be.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Corndog on March 06, 2017, 08:52:51 AM
Civil war!

Starring:

Corndog as Captain America


I suppose I should watch The First Avenger then...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 06, 2017, 08:53:54 AM
It really is more flattering if you don't.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sandy on March 06, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
Scarlett Witch?! :))

I'll take it! Red is a good color on me and I'm good at altering reality. :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on March 06, 2017, 11:03:38 AM
I am flattered to be cast as Spidey. He was my favorite as a youngster.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: jdc on March 06, 2017, 01:58:21 PM
Why do I always have to be Nick Fury?

I feel a Reservoir Dogs scene breaking out
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 07, 2017, 03:24:16 AM
Why do I always have to be Nick Fury?

Because he is the mastermind who works in the shadows.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: saltine on March 07, 2017, 03:42:44 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on March 11, 2017, 05:15:42 PM
Not sure why you chose Ant Man for me...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on March 12, 2017, 04:29:35 AM
His ability to alternate between three different sizes is a metaphor for your old/kid dichotomous ambivalence. Also, arbitrariness. 
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Junior on March 13, 2017, 12:29:42 AM
Very happy to be Falcon. The coolest costume, I think. Nifty shades.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on March 14, 2017, 10:31:07 PM
His ability to alternate between three different sizes is a metaphor for your old/kid dichotomous ambivalence. Also, arbitrariness.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oneaprilday on March 16, 2017, 09:55:16 PM
OAD as Black Widow

I'll take it.  8)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on June 16, 2017, 11:00:09 AM
I have long since voted, but a couple of months ago I watched Bttf for the first time and it deserves to be said that my vote remains unchanged.

Die Hard
Back to the Future
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Fugee on June 17, 2017, 10:44:01 PM
I'm so happy this is still going.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on June 17, 2017, 11:00:36 PM
The eternal struggle.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 01, 2017, 04:41:00 PM
Just for my own curiosity (related to this post (http://forum.filmspotting.net/index.php?topic=3411.msg873328#msg873328)), please rank the following films:

The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
WarGames (1983)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
Back to the Future (1985)
Top Gun (1986)
RoboCop (1987)
Die Hard (1988)
Batman (1989)

Originally, I was just going to ask you to rank Back to the Future, Die Hard, and RoboCop but then decided to expand the scope. Interestingly, RoboCop and Die Hard are the two biggest outcasts in that group — the only titles not to finish among the top five highest-grossing films of their respective years, grossing just $53.4M and $80.0M, respectively. The rest all topped the yearly box office, with the exception of WarGames, the $79.6M gross of which was good enough for a 5th-place finish. The three box office champs not listed here: Return of the Jedi (1983, $252.6M), Three Men and a Baby (1987, $168M), and Rain Man (1988, $172.8M). What a weird time to have been alive.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Teproc on August 01, 2017, 05:15:06 PM
The Empire Strikes Back
Die Hard
Top Gun
Batman
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Back to the Future
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial

Haven't seen:
WarGames
Beverly Hills Cop
RoboCop
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on August 01, 2017, 05:51:09 PM

The Empire Strikes Back (1980)  5/5
Die Hard (1988)  4.5/5
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 4/5
WarGames (1983) 3.5/5
RoboCop (1987) 3.5/5
Back to the Future (1985) 3.5/5
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) 3/5
Beverly Hills Cop (1984) 3/5
Batman (1989) 3/5
Top Gun (1986) 2/5
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on August 01, 2017, 06:49:09 PM
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)

Back to the Future (1985)

RoboCop (1987)
The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
Die Hard (1988)

Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
WarGames (1983)
Batman (1989)
Top Gun (1986)

Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: philip918 on August 01, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
Back to the Future (1985)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Die Hard (1988)
Batman (1989)
RoboCop (1987)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
Top Gun (1986)
WarGames (1983)


Haven't seen:
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on August 01, 2017, 10:30:34 PM
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Die Hard (1988)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
Back to the Future (1985)
WarGames (1983)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
RoboCop (1987)
Batman (1989)


Haven't seen Top Gun

Top grossing films for each year of the 80's?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: pixote on August 01, 2017, 11:39:17 PM
Top grossing films for each year of the 80's?

Not quite:

Originally, I was just going to ask you to rank Back to the Future, Die Hard, and RoboCop but then decided to expand the scope. Interestingly, RoboCop and Die Hard are the two biggest outcasts in that group — the only titles not to finish among the top five highest-grossing films of their respective years, grossing just $53.4M and $80.0M, respectively. The rest all topped the yearly box office, with the exception of WarGames, the $79.6M gross of which was good enough for a 5th-place finish. The three box office champs not listed here: Return of the Jedi (1983, $252.6M), Three Men and a Baby (1987, $168M), and Rain Man (1988, $172.8M). What a weird time to have been alive.

No reason to include Three Men and a Baby, since it would obviously top all lists.

It's interesting just seeing who had to make a tough choice between Back to the Future and Die Hard and who clearly falls in one camp or the other.

pixote
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 02, 2017, 03:46:13 AM
The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Die Hard (1988)
RoboCop (1987)
Back to the Future (1985)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
Batman (1989)

Have not seen the others.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Knocked Out Loaded on August 02, 2017, 04:26:16 AM
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982), 45°
The Empire Strikes Back (1980), 45°
Die Hard (1988), 30°
WarGames (1983), 25°
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), 25°
Batman (1989), 20°
Top Gun (1986), 20°
Back to the Future (1985), 15°
Beverly Hills Cop (1984), 10°
RoboCop (1987), n/a
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 02, 2017, 05:40:49 AM
Lets try this, I have seen them all:

RoboCop (1987)
Die Hard (1988)
Back to the Future (1985)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), a recent rewatch knocked this down a couple of places, it was in first place until RoboCop came out, then the re-watch (on the big screen) a couple of years ago knocked it down to 4th.
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
WarGames (1983)
The Empire Strikes Back (1980), I was disappointed in this when it first came out, but my view has improved since.
Top Gun (1986), fun
Batman (1989), did not like Jack's performance
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on August 02, 2017, 07:08:38 AM
Three Men and a Baby
The rest
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on August 02, 2017, 02:52:29 PM
1. Die Hard (#4 Essentials)
2. Raiders of the Lost Ark (#5 Essentials)
3. Back to the Future (#142 Essentials)
4. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (#169 Essentials)
5. The Empire Strikes Back (#238 Essentials)
6. WarGames (#253 Essentials)
7. Beverly Hills Cop (#309 Essentials)
8. Robocop
9. Top Gun
10. Batman
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 03, 2017, 04:19:45 AM
I don't know how KOL and Dave feel about Beverly Hills Cop, but teal 1SO ?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 03, 2017, 04:27:27 AM
It is very good. Eddie Murphy is at his peak, and combined with a good detective story.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on August 03, 2017, 05:32:37 AM
Eddie Murphy at his peak is less appealing than you might think.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on August 03, 2017, 05:48:04 AM
At the time he was vey appealing, he was like a breath of fresh air, funny, charming and sassy and it all just oozed off the screen.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on August 03, 2017, 09:50:25 AM
Eddie Murphy at his peak is less appealing than you might think.

Eddie Murphy at his peak was as "peak" as you can get. Incredibly charismatic and funny. While I think the movies he was in don't hold up perfectly, he's undeniably the best thing in them.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on August 03, 2017, 11:28:05 AM
While I think the movies he was in don't hold up perfectly, he's undeniably the best thing in them.

Yep.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Parnassus on December 17, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
I like Back to the Future more.

Die Hard is a clever action movie, but BttF just has that homey and innocent charm the louder and more explosive Die Hard lacks. I got rather bored rewatching Die Hard a few years ago, but my return to BttF each time was fun, nostalgic and heartwarming, particularly that last part. Watching McClane take out a building full of bad guys is cool and all, but it's all too "'80s action cheese" for me - and it's released in 1990 too. I would just watch another of Arnold's over-the-top movies if I want that. I certainly wouldn't pop in the ultra-violent Die Hard for Christmas with my wife and kids, but BttF is a heartfelt adventure my kids and I could enjoy any time.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: smirnoff on December 18, 2017, 12:47:03 AM
The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
Top Gun (1986)
Batman (1989)
Die Hard (1988)
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
Back to the Future (1985)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)


Shame!
RoboCop (1987)
WarGames (1983)
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 18, 2017, 06:01:05 AM
Die Hard is a clever action movie, but BttF just has that homey and innocent charm the louder and more explosive Die Hard lacks.

Exactly!

Die Hard is bae.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 18, 2017, 06:09:13 AM
Die Hard is bae.

What is bae????????
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 18, 2017, 09:08:06 AM
Die Hard is.

I've got you, fam. (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bae&defid=7787582)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on December 18, 2017, 10:26:15 AM
"Bae" is not an adjective.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 18, 2017, 12:04:15 PM
True, but this is how it is idiomatically used very often.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 18, 2017, 01:05:36 PM
I have a teenage girl and that's exactly how she uses it.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: MartinTeller on December 18, 2017, 01:14:40 PM
These kids are too hard to keep up with!
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 18, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
These kids are too hard to keep up with!
Word
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 18, 2017, 02:55:50 PM
I have a teenage girl and that's exactly how she uses it.

oldkid needs better children. I have none in stock, sadly.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: oldkid on December 23, 2017, 12:20:07 AM
Die Hard is one down and you worry about my kids?  Where are your priorities?
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: DarkeningHumour on December 23, 2017, 03:16:08 AM
There is very little I can do. Unless I murder a couple of Back To fans...
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Jeff Schroeck on March 03, 2018, 12:15:27 PM
I don't know if anyone here has checked out Chuck from Stuff You Should Know's new podcast Movie Crush, but Paul Schneider is going to be on soon talking about Back To The Future. I know he's not technically a forum member but I think this should count as a vote for BTTF.
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on March 04, 2018, 04:07:59 AM
Convince him to join up and he can vote :)
Title: Re: Random Movie Death Match #13 - Back to the Future vs. Die Hard
Post by: 1SO on July 14, 2019, 08:46:19 PM
John Mulaney (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ButlizwQXnU#t=4m12s) makes a good case.