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Title: Filmspotters' Top Scores and Soundtracks: Comments
Post by: ses on July 06, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
post away!
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Post by: mañana on July 06, 2009, 07:20:57 PM
Elfman starts strong.
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Post by: mañana on July 06, 2009, 07:22:10 PM
Yay Elevator to the Gallows!
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Post by: worm@work on July 06, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
Yay Elevator to the Gallows!

Indeed!
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Post by: Bill Thompson on July 06, 2009, 09:05:47 PM
Lots of good ones, although based on what's been posted so far I'm expecting Morricone to be #1 and 2.
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Post by: Bill Thompson on July 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Well, I was wrong, but man, I can't get enough of the Once Upon A Time In The West score, amazing.

That type of score is one of the many reasons I keep on telling you to check out Leone, W@W.  ;D
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Post by: Thor on July 06, 2009, 09:17:45 PM
I'm pleased Dead Man scored so highly
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Post by: worm@work on July 06, 2009, 09:32:15 PM
I have a feeling Thor is generally pleased with the list thus far!
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Post by: Thor on July 06, 2009, 09:57:26 PM
I have a feeling Thor is generally pleased with the list thus far!

 :)... did anyone else actually vote for #46-43 on the top soundtracks?!
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Post by: ses on July 06, 2009, 09:58:22 PM
I have a feeling Thor is generally pleased with the list thus far!

 :)... did anyone else actually vote for #46-43 on the top soundtracks?!

there were multiple votes for each of them
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Post by: ¡Keith! on July 06, 2009, 11:23:08 PM
choose life!
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Post by: mañana on July 06, 2009, 11:28:21 PM
Thanks to worm and ses for being super awesome!
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Post by: Clovis8 on July 06, 2009, 11:44:15 PM
Worm and Ses did an awesome job and it was fun railing in the chat. Wish High Fidelity ranked higher but overall great, with the exception of Saturday Night Fever, bleh.
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Post by: mañana on July 07, 2009, 02:16:14 AM
Hello people, ever heard of Dirty Dancing?  :)

Kind of surprised John Williams didn't crack the score top 10.
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Post by: smirnoff on July 07, 2009, 06:58:29 AM
I didn't realize Trainspotting was such a hit, soundtrack wise.
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Post by: Kevin Shields on July 07, 2009, 02:26:38 PM
I'm just happy LIT and Trainspotting did well in the soundtracks while Ennio Morricone kicked everyone in the ass with scores. 
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Post by: ses on July 07, 2009, 04:54:33 PM
Thanks to everyone who submitted lists, it was fun putting together the countdowns.
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Post by: worm@work on July 07, 2009, 04:55:30 PM
Thanks to everyone who submitted lists, it was fun putting together the countdowns.

Absolutely! And thanks to ses for letting me share the fun with her :).
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Post by: Verite on July 07, 2009, 05:15:50 PM
Wow, I'm psyched that Trouble Every Day placed.
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Post by: ses on July 07, 2009, 05:18:42 PM
Thanks to everyone who submitted lists, it was fun putting together the countdowns.

Absolutely! And thanks to ses for letting me share the fun with her :).

I couldn't have done it without you!  :)
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Post by: ferris on July 07, 2009, 06:45:45 PM
Very very sad :( to not see The Untouchables make the list.   Have people not seen this film and heard this music?

Ennio Morricone scores were otherwise featured prominently so I guess I can't be too sad
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Post by: 'Noke on July 11, 2009, 07:19:33 AM
I'm suprised to see Good, bad, and ugly at #1. I like the score, but it's not even my fav Ennio Morricone score(Once Upon... is magnificent)
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Post by: Bondurant on October 26, 2009, 08:47:49 AM
This was a fantastic idea.  Looks like it was a lot of fun.  Wish I had been around for it.
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Post by: pixote on November 05, 2009, 04:15:55 AM
5. Requiem for a Dream (Clint Mansell, 2000)

My friend's Pandora station has been playing this a lot lately and, yeah, nice job, voters.

pixote
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Post by: smirnoff on August 15, 2010, 08:51:25 PM
I totally forgot about Dead Presidents when we were doing this thing :( God it's a good soundtrack.

Dead presidents theme-Danny Elfman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_oCrNjmqdo#)

Get up and Get down-The dramatics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQRR8Poj48o#)

Tired of being alone-Al green (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOURbqIIbWE#)

Never, Never gonna give you up-Barry White (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BroaugXXjC4#)


I don't know how you could listen to those four tracks and NOT want to see the film.
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Post by: roujin on August 16, 2010, 10:54:06 PM
I love the soundtrack. Never seen the film. This is the shit.

If you want me to stay-Sly and the Family stone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wOaaBCYRVg#)
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Post by: ses on February 13, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
Anybody interested in doing this again, I don't know when we would fit it in with all the other lists, but it has been about 2 1/2 years ago that we did the Top Scores and Soundtracks, could be fun to do it again.
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Post by: AAAutin on February 13, 2012, 10:25:03 PM
Yes, please!
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Post by: ses on February 13, 2012, 10:47:21 PM
here are the links for the original Top Scores (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6140.0) and Top Soundtrack (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=6142.0) lists

I was listening to Gabriel's Oboe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixby9BzJfEo&feature=related), and it made me think that we should do this list again, because The Mission should be higher than #15

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Post by: StudentOFilm on February 13, 2012, 11:03:53 PM
I would love to participate in this, but this might be an even more challening list to put together than a typical Top 100 Films/Performances. I'm game.

My only concern would be if there are any helpful sites, organizations, or lists (other than those from the forum) that would be helpful specifically in terms of films that might use orchestrated music but are in fact classical or otherwise compositions that were just used in and not created for the film (i.e. The Tree of Life, Shutter Island)?
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Post by: Mike Shutt on February 14, 2012, 12:32:36 AM
I would participate.
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Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2012, 12:46:09 AM
I might be able to participate on soundtracks but not so much scores.

Also, if for soundtracks we include things that are non-original classical music, I'd probably boycott. Soundtracks have songs and songs have lyrics!
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Post by: MartinTeller on February 14, 2012, 09:29:15 AM
That seems like a damn silly reason to boycott.  Unless you're joking and making fun of FLY.
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Post by: mañana on February 14, 2012, 09:31:27 AM
If others are generous enough to organize, I'll definitely submit my lists.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 14, 2012, 09:33:48 AM
Soundtracks have songs and songs have lyrics!

Agreed! Agreed!

Exclusively classical noise soundtracks serve the exact same purpose as an original score, while soundtracks with real songs work completely differently in films.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 14, 2012, 10:25:38 AM
 ::)
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Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
That seems like a damn silly reason to boycott.  Unless you're joking and making fun of FLY.

I'm not joking, I think the distinction offered by the Academy between score and soundtrack is absurd. The use of songs, original or not, should be considered soundtrack and orchestration, original or not, should be considered score. Like FLY says, these two things serve very different function within a film and the distinction of originality has nothing to do with that function.

I mean, if non-original orchestration is soundtrack rather than score, then are original songs score rather than soundtrack? Is Man or Muppet part of the film's score? I don't know anyone who would intuitively say that is the case. The idea that score is original orchestration and soundtrack is everything else makes no intuitive sense.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 14, 2012, 11:19:40 AM
Well stated, that's exactly how I feel as well. The distinction is just more classical noise elitism. I personally have trouble recognizing, on ear, a group of sounds composed specifically for a film and a group of sounds that may have been composed in the years before motion pictures were invented. They are functioning the exact same way, even if one is not made by someone currently working on the film.

For example, look at The Tree of Life. The complain that I think Sam and others echoed in announcements chat was that the film only has a minimal use of original score. I'd wager that myself and many of the people who would have vote for it made no distinction between the previous classical compositions used and whichever portions were original for the film because, in the context of the film, they work in exactly the same fashion.
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Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2012, 11:23:57 AM
Or the Vertigo theme from The Artist, that would technically be part of the soundtrack and not the score. But since I didn't know it was from Vertigo because I've tried to block out everything to do with my experience watching Vertigo, it just seemed like more score to me. This lack of recognition also helped me realize that its inclusion was nothing like rape.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 14, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
To me, the distinction is more about authorship. If we're going to award scores, they need to be scores as in cohesive collections of music written by a particular musician(s)  for the movie itself.

If it's a group of musical pieces (classical or songs) made by multiple artists, it needs to be a soundtrack.

That's how I've always made the distinction, that's what makes the most sense to me.
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Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on February 14, 2012, 12:06:22 PM
I'm not joking, I think the distinction offered by the Academy between score and soundtrack is absurd. The use of songs, original or not, should be considered soundtrack and orchestration, original or not, should be considered score. Like FLY says, these two things serve very different function within a film and the distinction of originality has nothing to do with that function.
Well, the Academy probably makes that distinction to promote the use of original scores and not have long dead composers nominated for score. I don't think they're making an artistic distinction and it's not like they have an award for best soundtrack that accepts non-original compositions.

I do agree that from the perspective of watching a film the difference between original or not is not particularly relevant and should stand on the artistic merits of how it fits into a film.

That said the only soundtrack or score that I remember and have positive associations with are Badlands and Drive. If I notice a score or soundtrack then it's no longer complementing the film but overtaking it and, except for rare instances, that's not a good thing. Also in the case of Drive, even though I just watched it a couple of months ago I could not tell you if there was an actual score beyond the songs.
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Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
You make a good point about why the Academy does what it does...it needs to actually give the award to a person rather than a film. Thus it makes sense to stress original scoring and original songs over soundtracks of mixed/unoriginal songs.

But for the purpose of our list, which awards films, this makes less sense. So I'd say either make it instrumental vs. lyrical or just get rid of the distinction altogether and just have a top 100 "uses of music in film" that combines original and unoriginal, instrumental or lyrical. Fro deserves credit on this latter suggestion.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 14, 2012, 12:26:16 PM
Yea, for the purpose of the list, I'm for this method.
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Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 14, 2012, 12:33:16 PM
So I'd say either make it instrumental vs. lyrical

I prefer this because it still allows us to focus on the distinct way each type of music functions in film, though I wouldn't be adverse to a catch all award either. I prefer keeping the idea of score/soundtrack (or instrumental/lyrical) separate as well, but that's mostly a personal thing.

Either result would be a massive victory for The Movement(tm).
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Post by: MartinTeller on February 14, 2012, 01:09:53 PM
So I'd say either make it instrumental vs. lyrical or just get rid of the distinction altogether and just have a top 100 "uses of music in film" that combines original and unoriginal, instrumental or lyrical. Fro deserves credit on this latter suggestion.

I agree, those sound like two sensible options that should minimize the amount of splitting hairs.
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Post by: ses on February 14, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
I would rather do two lists:   Instrumental and Lyrical if that is better than Score and Soundtrack.  For me they are two different things.  We are not giving out awards to individual, so we could include those instrumental that are original in the same categories as other instrumental pieces.  If you think it works well with that particular film, then why not vote for it. 
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Post by: AAAutin on February 14, 2012, 08:53:09 PM
Well, my working assumption of the difference between score vs. soundtrack has always been that score is original music composed specifically for a film, while soundtrack refers to a compilation of music from a film, both original and licensed.

For the purposes of this list, I don't see much benefit in a split. I'd prefer the catch-all of "Best Score/Soundtrack" or:

top 100 "uses of music in film"
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Post by: ses on February 14, 2012, 08:56:21 PM
top 100 "uses of music in film"

This says something different to me than picking a score or soundtrack as a whole.
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Post by: AAAutin on February 14, 2012, 09:09:24 PM
Yeah, I suppose the wording is vague (it could be construed to mean a specific moment or manipulation), but I approve of the concept.
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Post by: Bondo on February 14, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Yeah, I meant music for the film as a whole, not singular musical cues.
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Post by: oldkid on March 11, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
top 100 "uses of music in film"

This says something different to me than picking a score or soundtrack as a whole.

But like we've seen this year, a single film can have both a score and a soundtrack.   I think we just need to clarify what we are talking about.  I'm all for voting for the best use of all the music in a film.
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Post by: philip918 on December 01, 2015, 01:20:53 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this, but I just found Vig Mihály's works on iTunes and it got me thinking. So here's a list of my 50 favorite film scores:


50. Commando - James Horner
Best use of steel drum, wood flute, and saxophone ever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwhcJiTfYA4

49. Speed Racer - Michael Giacchino
This takes me to a very happy place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvwhIStnDw8

48. Mad Max: Fury Road - Tom Holkenborg

47. Gladiator - Hans Zimmer

46. Lawrence of Arabia - Maurice Jarre

45. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone - John Williams

44. True Romance - Hans Zimmer

43. Elevator to the Gallows - Miles Davis

42. Inception - Hans Zimmer

41. Glory at Sea - Dan Romer & Benh Zeitlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjqSnlCijo

40. Road to Perdition - Thomas Newman

39. Gravity - Steven Price

38. Mulholland Drive - Angelo Badalamenti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJlm_ON1_Mo

37. How to Train Your Dragon - John Powell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX69NSZ6Vik

36. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves - Michael Kamen
Man, I loved this movie as a kid. Still love the score:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN24yo0yg6c

35. Ghostbusters - Elmer Bernstein

34. The Exorcist - Steve Boeddeker

33. Fantastic Mr. Fox - Alexandre Desplat

32. Conan the Barbarian - Basil Poledouris

31. The Man from Snowy River - Bruce Rowland
One of my favorite movies as a little kid. This theme definitely got me excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvs9hwxE7YA&list=PL782155A474493E02

30. Paris, Texas - Ry Cooder

29. Psycho - Bernard Herrmann

28. Fargo - Carter Burwell

27. The Assassination of Jesse James - Nick Cave & Warren Ellis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzinPgsxokE

26. Under the Skin - Mica Levi

25. Out of Africa - John Barry

24. Breakfast at Tiffany’s - Henry Mancini

23. Dances with Wolves - John Barry

22. Amelie - Yann Tiersen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ACZ6IyyqM

21. North by Northwest - Bernard Herrmann
One of the best opening credit sequences as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBxjwurp_04

20. The Incredibles - Michael Giacchino

19. Requiem for a Dream - Clint Mansell

18. Sakuran - Shiina Ringo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Nobbb-6ho&list=PLMVwDmV0ii9DcaqHQafoE1ukPXDAakfK3

17. Beyond the Black Rainbow - Sinoia Caves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHoMMENsC8g

16. Terminator 2 - Brad Fiedel

15. The Fellowship of the Ring - Howard Shore

14. Back to the Future - Alan Silvestri

13. Batman (’89) - Danny Elfman

12. Dr. No - Monty Norman

11. Rocky - Bill Conti

10. Halloween - John Carpenter

09. Blade Runner - Vangelis

08. The Mission - Ennio Morricone
Love the opening wood flute (?) and forgot how much this swells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWXeCTW0PmQ&index=2&list=PL3ADED8E9B336B068

07. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Tan Dun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5AjtMNnWf0&list=PL515E1D96F46A8B2E

06. Legends of the Fall - James Horner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxZeisCHv8

05. Jurassic Park - John Williams

04. Star Wars - John Williams

03. Spirited Away - Joe Hisaishi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwTqNNXNQnA&list=PLNoCifgeHI7-1taaO7K1hS5AWtHqA7e-U

02. The Werckmeister Harmonies - Vig Mihály
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMlQ04g0pDc

01. The Last of the Mohicans - Randy Edelman and Trevor Jones
The song I've listened to the most according to iTunes. Hard to believe this was thrown together at the last minute after the studio balked at Michael Mann's plan to have a Tangerine Dream-esque score (as perfect as this is, I sure would love to hear that version).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tjdswqGGVg
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Post by: oldkid on December 01, 2015, 01:42:59 PM
Great list, philip!
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Post by: philip918 on December 01, 2015, 01:55:40 PM
Great list, philip!

Thanks!

I highly recommend listening to the Glory at Sea score and checking out the short film if you haven't already seen it. I think it's way better than his feature: Beasts of the Southern Wild.
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Post by: Jeff Schroeck on December 01, 2015, 03:25:50 PM
I haven't listened to much Vig Mihaly but that Werckmeister Harmonies score and the two or three of his band's songs I've heard are unbelievable!
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Post by: philip918 on December 02, 2015, 05:22:58 PM
I haven't listened to much Vig Mihaly but that Werckmeister Harmonies score and the two or three of his band's songs I've heard are unbelievable!

Yeah, really something else. I was blown away by the film the first time I saw it. Re-watching again this year the music really stood out. Perfect.
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Post by: Sandy on December 02, 2015, 07:53:44 PM
I've been listening to your links, philip. Thank you so much for doing that!

I also love #36! It's perfect.
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Post by: philip918 on December 02, 2015, 08:02:07 PM
I also love #36! It's perfect.

So perfect that Morgan Creek used it as their logo music for a number of years.

And the Bryan Adams song was one of my first song obsessions. Listened to it on repeat for most of 5th grade.
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Post by: philip918 on December 02, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
I'll keep filling in links over the next couple days.
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Post by: Sandy on December 02, 2015, 08:08:10 PM
So perfect that Morgan Creek used it as their logo music for a number of years.

That's right! :)

Quote
And the Bryan Adams song was one of my first song obsessions. Listened to it on repeat for most of 5th grade.


I'm not going to tell you how much I've listened to that song as an adult!  ::)
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Post by: Keil S. on February 08, 2018, 11:19:04 AM
I have only read the title of this thread, but had to jump in and mention that — while I don’t keep up with scores the way I did in middle school and high school — I have to state that my favorite score post 2000 (off the top of my head) is a The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.  It’s one of the few scores from the past 15 years that I actually own and listen to regularly.
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Post by: george96 on February 08, 2018, 11:46:44 AM
My recent favorites: The Social Network, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (U.S.), Moonlight, Rat Film.