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Title: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on November 08, 2009, 10:55:39 PM
In preparation for the Filmspotting Best of the Decade honors, I did a quick poll to get people's opinions on what I should catch up on.  

As a result I'm doing a BEST OF THE DECADE marathon.  At the end I'll do the "Goose Egg awards".  Hope people don't mind me documenting my adventures here.  

I hope some folks will join me in catching up with a few of these!  :)

Here are the selected films for the FIRST ROUND:

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(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/SpiritedAway/707634660_J8qPP-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/ChildrenOfMean/707633994_z6sxN-M.jpg)
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(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/United93/707634640_hegvY-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/DivingBell/707634605_YFyTA-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/Brick/707633996_hDyqP-M.jpg)
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Reviews:
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg353998#msg353998)
Pan's Labyrinth (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg355640#msg355640)
Spirited Away (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg360224#msg360224)
Children of Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg362748#msg362748)
Mulholland Drive (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg363379#msg363379)
High Fidelity (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg364427#msg364427)
United 93 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg367617#msg367617)
Brick (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg370004#msg370004)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374369#msg374369)
I'm Not There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374744#msg374744)

**First Round Goose Egg Awards (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374780#msg374780)**



SECOND ROUND

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Reviews:
Joyeux Noël (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg378077#msg378077)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg380885#msg380885)
Rivers and Tides: Art of Andy Goldsworthy (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
City of God (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg386925#msg386925)
Yi Yi (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg392361#msg392361)
The Science of Sleep (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg394525#msg394525)
In the Bedroom (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg396737#msg396737)
The Fountain (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg397470#msg397470)
The Lives of Others (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398140#msg398140)
Apocolypto (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398532#msg398532)

**Second Round Goose Egg Awards (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399183#msg399183)**


THIRD ROUND

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Before Sunrise (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399839#msg399839)
The Hurt Locker (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399849#msg399849)
Fantastic Mr Fox (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399854#msg399854)
Los Angeles Plays Itself (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401891#msg401891)
Y Tu Mama Tambien (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401959#msg401959)
25th Hour (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403771#msg403771)
A Prairie Home Companion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403796#msg403796)
The Man Who Wasn't There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg410361#msg410361)
Capturing the Friedmans (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411062#msg411062)
Team America World Police (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411092#msg411092)



FOURTH ROUND
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Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411282#msg411282)
Requiem for a Dream (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413668#msg413668)
Grizzly Man (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413807#msg413807)
The Bourne Ultimatum (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg414805#msg414805)
A History of Violence (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg414840#msg414840)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg417543#msg417543)
My Winnipeg (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg417563#msg417563)
The Wind that Shakes the Barley
The Squid and the Whale
Before Sunset
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on November 08, 2009, 11:02:11 PM
Excellent! Some really good movies in there, and the rest on my "you know you should really watch this, why haven't you?" list.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on November 08, 2009, 11:06:37 PM
Great line-up! (Except it should include In the Bedroom.  ;) )

Of those, I've not seen Jesse James or Mulholland Dr. - maybe I'll try to catch up on them with you. Is that the order in which you'll watching them?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Kevin Shields on November 08, 2009, 11:18:08 PM
The only one here I haven't seen is Spirited Away yet everything else is in the list for best films of the decade. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 09, 2009, 12:31:00 AM
Great line-up! (Except it should include In the Bedroom.  ;) )

Of those, I've not seen Jesse James or Mulholland Dr. - maybe I'll try to catch up on them with you. Is that the order in which you'll watching them?

In the Bedroom looks like the type of film I would love.  Plus Tom Wilkenson can do no wrong in my eyes.

I'm watching Jesse tomorrow night and I'll try to follow the rest in order the best I can.  I fgure I'll only be able to fit in one per week on my current schedule - but we'll see.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 09, 2009, 12:33:23 AM
I'm only missing United 93 from that lineup. It'll be fun to relive these through you. You, on the other hand, can live vicariously through yourself.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on November 09, 2009, 12:55:17 AM
If you have time at the end, I strongly recommend adding the film that just missed the cut.  Requiem for a Dream is my 2nd favorite movie of the decade.

Maybe this poll will help persuade you. (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6863.0)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 09, 2009, 01:01:46 AM
A bunch of great movies.  I only haven't seen Jesse James, but I'll put it higher on my queue.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on November 09, 2009, 02:44:16 AM
Great line-up! (Except it should include In the Bedroom.  ;) )

Of those, I've not seen Jesse James or Mulholland Dr. - maybe I'll try to catch up on them with you. Is that the order in which you'll watching them?

In the Bedroom looks like the type of film I would love.  Plus Tom Wilkenson can do no wrong in my eyes.
I do think you would appreciate it, and Wilkinson is fantastic.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on November 09, 2009, 07:06:17 AM
This is great!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 09, 2009, 09:24:52 AM
I'm only missing United 93 from that lineup. It'll be fun to relive these through you. You, on the other hand, can live vicariously through yourself.

:)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on November 09, 2009, 09:30:52 AM
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Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 09, 2009, 09:31:16 AM
If you have time at the end, I strongly recommend adding the film that just missed the cut.  Requiem for a Dream is my 2nd favorite movie of the decade.

Maybe this poll will help persuade you. (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6863.0)

I'll catch up with both Requiem for a Dream and In the Bedroom as well, but probably not as part of this marathon. (But thanks for that encouragement!).  Probably I'll need a break after these 9 (I'm thinking a two week steady diet of Laverne and Shirley episodes)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on November 09, 2009, 09:52:32 AM
That almost looks like Roger Waters. Who is it?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on November 09, 2009, 02:58:35 PM
I'm Not There is fantastic.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 11, 2009, 07:27:19 PM


Goose Egg Marathon Film #1
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What a great start to this marathon.  What a fabulous, haunting beautiful film this is.  I loved every minute of it.  I've watched it three times in as many days.  I went back and listened to the Filmspotting review (somewhere around ep 180) and those guys don't have any idea what they're talking about.

First of all:
This may be hands down the most-beautifully shot film ever put to celluloid.  I didn't know going in, but within ten minutes I turned to my wife and said, "this HAS to be Roger Deakins".  (sure enough!) But credit to director Andrew Dominik as well.  It's one thing to get a great shot of a sunset with the perfect cloud cover.  But to have the actors and entire crew there in the perfect light and conditions takes a ton of patience. You can see this patience OVER AND OVER in this film.  It is an eye popping marvel.

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The first 23 minutes:
The first 23 minutes of this film is incredible.  You get a voice over narration introducing the character of Jesse James.  It's told in anecdote form like from a nickle comic.  It's pretty obvious early on that we can't entirely count on the narrators accounts (the blinking eye things was particularily funny) which I take to be  Dominik's way of saying - ok this isn't exactly a biopic.  We get a brief introduction to what remains of the James gang and then an incredible sequence of the Train Robery.  

I literally watched that 23 minute sequence 3 more times.

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The "Epic"
No doubt the director set out to make an Epic.  Expansive wide shots, 2:36 runtime and larger-than-life characters.  In my mind it is a "quiet epic".  There is not a great deal of action after that first 23 minutes.  It's completely a character study:  two guys: one devolving after alienation from his family and a life of glory on the wane, the other exasperatingly in a continual state of being inches from legendary status.   The film takes a lot of time studying these guys - their reactions to each other, the qualities of hidden strength and hidden weakness.  

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Acting:
I'm not really a Brad Pitt hater, but I'd never really considered him more than a handsome servicble line-delivery-device.  Here he is truly larger-than-life.  The film does a great job of making you feel weight when Jesse in the room - especially in the late going.

The real discovery here is Casey Affleck - who, to this point I'd never give much consideration.  He plays Bob Ford so pitch perfect, you seriously want to punch this guy in the face all the time.  There is a scene toward the end where something is revealed in a newspaper.  As a result Bob leaves to another room and sits deflated in a chair.  I don't know how it reads in the script, but his body language was incredible here.  I remember having this feeling as a kid waiting for my Dad to get home from work.  He nails it.

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The Narrator:
Normally I'm not a big fan of voice over narration, but here it's done about as effectively as I've ever seen.  I loved it.  The voice actor is credited as Hugh Ross, but there's really nothing of note from his IMDB page.  But he was strangely perfect in this.  He had Richard Dreyfus quality.

The Ending
I loved the scenes leading up to the assissination itself.  Clearly Jesse had resolved himself to an end and let it come to pass.  Why he chose a guy like Bob Ford remains a mystery - probably figuring that it was far better than being taken in by authorities.  The fact that Bob Ford so fleetingly acheives legendary status is the bitter irony of the film.  His final undoing in Colorado underscores this.  I love the fact you know from the very title of the movie exactly how this is all going to turn out, and you sit there waiting.  The suspense is incredible.  It's just like in There Will Be Blood, the title and the score just gives you this sense of forboding - you know it's coming, you just don't know how and when.  It's almost better to know in that respect.

The Score:
Perfect.  Cylcing through a 5 chord progression alternating through whole-note and a waltz beat - then those straining strings foreshadowing doom.  Fabulous.

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Negatives:
Welp.  Hmmm....It was about 10-15 minutes too long.  Now I've been through this film three times.  I cannot say definitively which scenes should go out or be chopped shorter.  In fact I've almost convinced myself it's fine the way it is.  But somehow I just didn't care about Bob Ford's girlfriend in Colorado, or scenes like the "burial" of Wood or the scene with Dick and Bob in the sheriff's (mayors? governors?) office was just fat that needed trimming.

Final Thoughts:

I loved it.  I believe this is Top 100 worthy.  I highly recommend it to those who can be a little patient and who love to be treated with an eyeful of great cinematography.

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Verdict:
An instant Top 100 for me.  Haunting, beautiful, and suspenseful.   Very much the epic it was aiming to be

Grade: 
A+  (Easy)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 11, 2009, 07:37:59 PM
Great write-up Ferris, I loved this movie as well. The night train robbery most sticks out in my mind, especially the shot of Jesse walking from the darkness into the fog with his bandanna across his face and his guns in his hands at his sides.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on November 11, 2009, 07:41:33 PM
Great write-up Ferris, I loved this movie as well. The night train robbery most sticks out in my mind, especially the shot of Jesse walking from the darkness into the fog with his bandanna across his face and his guns in his hands at his sides.

what he said
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 11, 2009, 07:48:52 PM
[brag]
I sure live in a beautiful province!
[/brag]



I loved it as well. Easily one of the best looking films of the decade.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 11, 2009, 08:00:49 PM
It's beautiful, but it's no Days of Heaven.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on November 11, 2009, 08:15:52 PM
Best movie of that year, and the thing I love the most about it is that it's a film about the complexity of individuals, and how this gets simplified by time and history, and our lack of communication. Bob Ford isn't a "COWARD"(the title is definitely ironic, as is some of the narration), he was a human being who was confused, naive, hopeful and numerous other emotions in his interior life that he couldn't even begin to let out. James was the same way. This makes the way history treats them all the more heartbreaking. Ford(and James) is a man who is forever victim of the way people label him, the people that could never know him and the he was a victim of being a person whose complexities and depths would forever be locked away in his soul because as the last line of narration says "He couldn't find the right words". This film touches upon our fundamental human condition, our isolation, and our canonization through the memories and accounts of others, which could never define who we really are. It's a Great, Great film.

I'm so glad you liked it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Gobman on November 11, 2009, 08:16:59 PM
I'm really pleased you liked it ferris, I know he's not a big part, but how did you feel about Sam Rockwell in this? Maybe it's just cos I'm a massive fan of his, but his 'transformation' on stage is one of my strongest memories of the film.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 11, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
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I loved it.  I believe this is Top 100 worthy.

I am one of the three totally awesome people that had it in their All Time Top 100.

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on November 11, 2009, 08:33:09 PM
Need to see this one. Nice review, ferris.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 11, 2009, 08:40:06 PM
It's beautiful, but it's no Days of Heaven.

Absolutely. Dominik's film is about celebrity, fame, legend, and myth-making, and Days of Heaven isn't.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on November 11, 2009, 08:42:46 PM
They're both fantastic. The Malick comparions for "Jesse James" are tiring. The film bares more of a resemblance to "McCabe & Mrs. Miller" anyway.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on November 11, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
Need to see this one. Nice review, ferris.
Same. And it's waiting for me at the library - woot!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 11, 2009, 09:26:21 PM
I'm really pleased you liked it ferris, I know he's not a big part, but how did you feel about Sam Rockwell in this? Maybe it's just cos I'm a massive fan of his, but his 'transformation' on stage is one of my strongest memories of the film.

Sam Rockwell is quickly becoming one of my favorite actors.  It's amazing how many roles he pops in in movies I've been catching up with.  I really do like him in TAOJJ - He acts the part in such a way that you really don't need any backstory.  You feel like you really know him...

Funny that I see such a corellation between his part and the brother that shows up in There Will Be Blood: earnest, a good quality man, hard working, but you just have this sense that this is another shoe that's going to drop.

I hope Rockwell get's remembered come Oscar time for his work in Moon.  Although with each passing month it seems to be harder to be optimistic about it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 11, 2009, 09:27:18 PM
Best movie of that year, and the thing I love the most about it is that it's a film about the complexity of individuals, and how this gets simplified by time and history, and our lack of communication. Bob Ford isn't a "COWARD"(the title is definitely ironic, as is some of the narration), he was a human being who was confused, naive, hopeful and numerous other emotions in his interior life that he couldn't even begin to let out. James was the same way. This makes the way history treats them all the more heartbreaking. Ford(and James) is a man who is forever victim of the way people label him, the people that could never know him and the he was a victim of being a person whose complexities and depths would forever be locked away in his soul because as the last line of narration says "He couldn't find the right words". This film touches upon our fundamental human condition, our isolation, and our canonization through the memories and accounts of others, which could never define who we really are. It's a Great, Great film.

I'm so glad you liked it.

Your comments here make me want to watch it yet again. :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 11, 2009, 09:37:49 PM
Best movie of that year, and the thing I love the most about it is that it's a film about the complexity of individuals, and how this gets simplified by time and history, and our lack of communication. Bob Ford isn't a "COWARD"(the title is definitely ironic, as is some of the narration), he was a human being who was confused, naive, hopeful and numerous other emotions in his interior life that he couldn't even begin to let out. James was the same way. This makes the way history treats them all the more heartbreaking. Ford(and James) is a man who is forever victim of the way people label him, the people that could never know him and the he was a victim of being a person whose complexities and depths would forever be locked away in his soul because as the last line of narration says "He couldn't find the right words". This film touches upon our fundamental human condition, our isolation, and our canonization through the memories and accounts of others, which could never define who we really are. It's a Great, Great film.

I'm so glad you liked it.

Your comments here make me want to watch it yet again. :)

Holly Harry, that's a fantastic write-up.  Bravo.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 11, 2009, 10:02:59 PM
I, too, had it in my top 100. It's an amazing film.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Kevin Shields on November 11, 2009, 10:17:21 PM
I'm also putting in my 100 films of the decade list for now.  I'm not sure if it will be bumped up since I am planning my own marathon for next year.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on November 11, 2009, 11:00:23 PM

Your comments here make me want to watch it yet again. :)

I remember a week earlier in the year when it was on HBO for a week or two and I watched part of it almost every time it was on I think
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on November 11, 2009, 11:50:45 PM
Thanks for bringing the cinematography to my attention.  I somehow forgot to add it to my Best of The Decade Top 10.  (Right now this is 2nd behind 2046, but it's real close.)
I remember Deakins was a double Oscar Nominee that year for this and No Country.  (He lost to Robert Elswit and There Will Be Blood).  At the time people were split (between all 3) as to which film had better cinematography, but I think as time goes on Jesse James gains more love and support.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 11, 2009, 11:56:57 PM
Thanks for bringing the cinematography to my attention.  I somehow forgot to add it to my Best of The Decade Top 10.  (Right now this is 2nd behind 2046, but it's real close.)
I remember Deakins was a double Oscar Nominee that year for this and No Country.  (He lost to Robert Elswit and There Will Be Blood).  At the time people were split (between all 3) as to which film had better cinematography, but I think as time goes on Jesse James gains more love and support.

I put this ahead of both of those films (but by a hair!).  But I can see the criticism, if leveyed, that JJ had more cinematic shots for the sake of it, as opposed to TWBB and NCFOM whose shots and scenes much more strictly adhered to the narrative.  

Funny that parts of both NCFOM and TWBB were being filmed in the same areas of West Texas at the same time and in fact on at least one occasion filming on TWBB was interrupted by balls of smoke from NCFOM. Can you see Elwsit screaming "DAMN YOU DEAKINS!!!"
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 12, 2009, 12:01:24 AM
I don't think that JJ's pretty shots were strictly out of the narrative. If this is a movie about the west and myths and stuff, I think seeing the stuff that these guys see is super important. James and co will have a seemingly odd focus on the world around them. But perhaps more important is that the look of this film matches with what we think of when we think of the west. The open fields and blue skies and all that.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on November 12, 2009, 01:29:19 AM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/zvo402.jpg)

Tak Fujimoto puts both Deakins and Almendros to shame.

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on November 12, 2009, 01:36:04 AM
I love that people love this film, even though I don't love it as much as they seem to.

Is that weird?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Basil on November 12, 2009, 01:37:52 AM
I love that people love this film, even though I don't love it as much as they seem to.

Is that weird?

Nope. High-five!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 12, 2009, 02:55:26 AM
I love that people love this film, even though I don't love it as much as they seem to.

Is that weird?

Not to me.  I feel that way about Chungking Express and Once Upon a Time in the West (sort of), for starters.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 12, 2009, 02:57:10 AM
Tak Fujimoto puts both Deakins and Almendros to shame.

Haskell Wexler would probably punch his computer monitor if he read that.

Ebert wrote, "The credit for cinematography goes to the Cuban Nestor Almendros, who won an Oscar for the film; ``Days of Heaven'' established him in America, where he went on to great success. Then there is a small credit at the end: ``Additional photography by Haskell Wexler.'' Wexler, too, is one of the greatest of all cinematographers. That credit has always rankled him, and he once sent me a letter in which he described sitting in a theater with a stopwatch to prove that more than half of the footage was shot by him."
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on November 12, 2009, 02:58:34 AM
To be fair, Wexler is a little crazy.

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 12, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
To be fair, Wexler is a little crazy.

I certainly wasn't implying that he wasn't :)

That stuff with David Carradine was painful to read about.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Wilson on November 12, 2009, 06:24:14 AM
I, too, had it in my top 100. It's an amazing film.

This.

Glad you enjoyed it ferris.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: skjerva on November 12, 2009, 07:59:55 AM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/zvo402.jpg)

Tak Fujimoto puts both Deakins and Almendros to shame.

pixote
Sigh.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/rr442d.png)

so true.  and after seeing The Insider (for the first time) this week, i would also give him major props for that (though just outside of goose egg contention (1999))
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: alexarch on November 12, 2009, 08:15:07 AM
I haven't seen Spirited Away or Diving Bell. I have Diving Bell on my computer, but I never seem to find time for it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on November 12, 2009, 08:48:14 AM
wait...I thought Miami Vice was Dion Beebe
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: skjerva on November 12, 2009, 08:57:44 AM
wait...I thought Miami Vice was Dion Beebe

i give props to mann for visual design.  no way his (more recent) films have the visual character they do primarily because of the DPs
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 12, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
Don  Beebe!??

(http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/06-06/0620gaffe_lett.jpg)

Oh nm, DION Beebe
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on November 12, 2009, 10:42:33 AM
Best movie of that year, and the thing I love the most about it is that it's a film about the complexity of individuals, and how this gets simplified by time and history, and our lack of communication. Bob Ford isn't a "COWARD"(the title is definitely ironic, as is some of the narration), he was a human being who was confused, naive, hopeful and numerous other emotions in his interior life that he couldn't even begin to let out. James was the same way. This makes the way history treats them all the more heartbreaking. Ford(and James) is a man who is forever victim of the way people label him, the people that could never know him and the he was a victim of being a person whose complexities and depths would forever be locked away in his soul because as the last line of narration says "He couldn't find the right words". This film touches upon our fundamental human condition, our isolation, and our canonization through the memories and accounts of others, which could never define who we really are. It's a Great, Great film.

I'm so glad you liked it.

Your comments here make me want to watch it yet again. :)

Holly Harry, that's a fantastic write-up.  Bravo.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 12, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
Well, it looks like an interesting discussion on JJ.  Of course, I can't read it because I haven't seen it yet-- the only film on Ferris' marathon I haven't.

Why isn't this discussion in it's own spoiler thread?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 12, 2009, 11:37:59 AM

Why isn't this discussion in it's own spoiler thread?

This is a special thread for Ferris' marathon. Spoilers are implied by the nature of the thread.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 12, 2009, 11:39:16 AM

Why isn't this discussion in it's own spoiler thread?

This is a special thread for Ferris' marathon. Spoilers are implied by the nature of the thread.

I understand the concept.  I was bemoaning the fact that there will now be excellent discussions on excellent movies that no one will be able to find a couple years from now.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 12, 2009, 11:45:34 AM

Why isn't this discussion in it's own spoiler thread?

This is a special thread for Ferris' marathon. Spoilers are implied by the nature of the thread.

I understand the concept.  I was bemoaning the fact that there will now be excellent discussions on excellent movies that no one will be able to find a couple years from now.

Ah, yes that is a general problem with the board. We tend to be a little scatter shot in our focus! This is why I always hate on the search function's flaws.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 12, 2009, 11:54:48 AM

Why isn't this discussion in it's own spoiler thread?

This is a special thread for Ferris' marathon. Spoilers are implied by the nature of the thread.

I understand the concept.  I was bemoaning the fact that there will now be excellent discussions on excellent movies that no one will be able to find a couple years from now.

Ah, yes that is a general problem with the board. We tend to be a little scatter shot in our focus! This is why I always hate on the search function's flaws.

Is there a way to copy the posts about The Assassination of... here and create a new thread in the Movie Talk (Spoiler Edition) forum?  I know that mods can move and merge threads.  I don't think they can copy and paste to create a new thread, can they?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 12, 2009, 12:36:06 PM

Why isn't this discussion in it's own spoiler thread?

This is a special thread for Ferris' marathon. Spoilers are implied by the nature of the thread.

I understand the concept.  I was bemoaning the fact that there will now be excellent discussions on excellent movies that no one will be able to find a couple years from now.

Ah, yes that is a general problem with the board. We tend to be a little scatter shot in our focus! This is why I always hate on the search function's flaws.

Is there a way to copy the posts about The Assassination of... here and create a new thread in the Movie Talk (Spoiler Edition) forum?  I know that mods can move and merge threads.  I don't think they can copy and paste to create a new thread, can they?

Hint, hint....
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on November 12, 2009, 02:38:27 PM
I don't think they can copy and paste to create a new thread, can they?

Copy and Paste = Double Posting = Bad!

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 12, 2009, 10:23:43 PM
I don't think they can copy and paste to create a new thread, can they?

Copy and Paste = Double Posting = Bad!

pixote

Even if it begins a new adventure?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 13, 2009, 04:11:30 PM

Here are the selected films:

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/Jesse/707634621_qXiGp-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/Pans/707634629_skXef-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/SpiritedAway/707634660_J8qPP-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/ChildrenOfMean/707633994_z6sxN-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/MullholandDrive/707634625_GdFVs-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/HighFidelity/707634608_eYCeo-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/United93/707634640_hegvY-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/DivingBell/707634605_YFyTA-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/Brick/707633996_hDyqP-M.jpg)
(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/Misc/Im-Not-There/707634597_WkLTN-M.jpg)


I had to change up the order a bit.  I grabbed Pan's Labyrinth at BB yesterday and I've got some time this afternoon to watch it   I also thought it would be nice to put High Fidelity in between a few of the heavier movies just so I don't kill myself half way through the marathon!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 13, 2009, 07:13:08 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/zvo402.jpg)

Tak Fujimoto puts both Deakins and Almendros to shame.

pixote

What movie is this?

I agree with your awesome assessment Ferris, Assassination of Jesse James is a marvelous film. Made my top 50.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on November 14, 2009, 10:32:21 AM
That's The Happening I believe.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 14, 2009, 01:56:03 PM


Goose Egg Marathon Film #2

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13-19h26m38s46/712557982_zkFiX-M.png)
(2006, Guillermo del Toro)

Early on in my viewing of Pan's Labyrinth I worried to myself - my goodness, the Assassination of Jesse James was so great and this one is starting to shape up too - what if this whole marathon I have nothing but hyperbole for every film!  As much as it pains me to say it, after the first 15-20 or so, as much as I really enjoyed particular aspects of this film, in the end this didn't do a whole lot for me.  Well, It's interesting to me sometimes...as much as you think you can make a scientific, unbiased analysis of a film you realzie so much of your enjoyment of a film is wrapped up in your personal experience, other movies you've seen in the past, and just plain personal opinion.  I really admire this film - and I love little-engine-that-could films and I truly like to support projects like these.  This aimed for something very lofty and just missed for me, which hey is pretty cool in my book.

So positives first, because there is a lot to admire here:

First, I really enjoyed Ivana Baquero's portrayal of a young girl swept off to a new home -  having to contend with a tyranical father figure, the backdrop of a world war, and a mother sick and having given up hope.    I also really enjoyed set design of the labyrinth, and the other fantastical imagerey - especially the final scene.  I was suprised at how pretty the Spanish forest backdrop was - looking very much like the temperate rain forests near where I live.  I was very comfortable in these surroundings!

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13-17h14m20s24/712558042_LTK3y-M.png)

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13-17h41m17s54/712558133_W3xLC-S.png)  (http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13/712558200_FJCQN-S.png) (http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13/712558185_SNECA-S.png)

In trying to quantify what didn't work for me, I almost hate to bring things up because I know this is a beloved film.  But I feel like we were kept an arm's distance from the characters, and as such they seemed pretty one dimensional.  So this is a pretty well travelled formula, right?  oppressed child creates/visits fantasy world for escape.  We have the misunderstanding parents, the "bad guy", the backdrdop of war, the abiguous nature of the fantasy world and, of course, the can-do-no-wrong precious child.  Everything from Narnia to Spiderwick (recall, as close together as these two movies came out, the books are decades from each other)  So what I need from the film is a different hook.  

I think there are a few differences here that are worth noting (getting in spoiler territory here) - I appreciated the fact that the creatures of the fantasy world did not bring about the undoing of the antogonst, and in fact that in fact it's pretty clear the fantasy world existed solely in the imagination of the child.  I really respected these choices.  But the characters seemed solely as plot delivery devices.  I have no sense of history, and therefor no sense of motivation from any of these people, and thus the stakes are not very high.    Constrast this with Where the Wild Things Are.  One or two scenes with the kid's mom and we can feel the weight of a lifetime of ups and downs.  

For instance, a very telling scene for me.  There is a section of the film in which the child is given specific instructions not to perform a certain act lest there be dire consequences.  The fact she breaks those rules, well first of all, was pretty telescoped, but more important we have no insight into the character as to why she would act this way.  Then the consequences where pretty horrifying but we don't really get much sorrow from her until she is called on later to answer for her actions.  I guess this can be forgiven because she herself is telling the story - but hmmm...I'm not sure that's enough for me.

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13-18h28m14s73/712558305_zfDPG-M.png)

Then we have the antogonist.  A man so unsympathetically vile that it's almost cartoon like.  I couldn't help but think of how great the Landa character was in contrast in Inglourious Basterds.  

These things I could forgive had the story been told completely from the perspective of the child.  If she is the one filtering and interpreting the events around her.  Then yes, of course there would be no good side to el Capitan, and of course, the Maribel Verdú character could do no wrong.  

I wasn't all that impressed with the fantasy characters, at all,  really.  But I'll readily admit, that's just a preference thing.  The two main fantasy characters had long been spoiled for me (heck they're on DVD cover!)  

Let me end on a high note.  Some very cool things:
1) The bug taking on fairy form - that was slick
2) The ending - really from the point where Ofelia takes the baby through the reveal at the end.  Very nice payoffs here.
3) The rebel explosions in the distance and the scene with the locamotive.  Very cool and unique.  
4) overall cinematography and set design.  Very moody and great at capturing this era and the rural location.  
5) The CGI - really great, subtle, not overdone as well it could easily have been.

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13-18h25m13s59/712558239_Lfpwr-M.png)

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/ScreenshotsGooseEgg/vlcsnap-2009-11-13-19h23m14s50/712558689_dYbPf-M.png)

So overall a grade of like B- I think.  Anyways, thanks to everyone who voted in the poll.  I'm really glad I finally caught up with this.  I remembered a lot of hype around this back that year around Oscar time.  I wish I had done a better job avoiding this.   I would have been more willing to give this more of a "small little gem", "sleeper" or "European film" discount in my review

Verdict:
High marks for style, mood and look of the film.  Disconnection with characters left me wanting

Grade: B 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 15, 2009, 01:41:36 AM
Since this is in my top 10 somewhere, allow me to retort.

1. Ofelia clearly can do wrong. She eats the grape which she is told not to do and she messes up her nice dress.

2. I don't think it's clear at all whether the fantasy world is "real" or not. You can check the spoiler thread for a discussion or two on this topic, I think.

3. The reason why she eats the grape is strictly biological. She hadn't eaten dinner (cuz she screwed up her dress) and was therefore very hungry. And did you see that grape!?!?!

4. I don't think that the bad guy being so evil is really a bad thing. Check out Anton Chigurh or any other super bad guy. The captain arguably has more depth than Chigurh.

I'm glad you liked it as much as you did, I just wish you loved it like I do.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on November 15, 2009, 01:52:53 AM
She eats the grape because she distrusts what it tells her.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on November 15, 2009, 01:57:30 AM
Cool write-up, ferris. This is a fun marathon to follow. I wasn't big on Pan's either. Maybe it was an over hype thing, but it just didn't work for me.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 15, 2009, 11:18:46 AM
I really loved Pan's, it's a top 10 for me, too.  But I can also see why some would like the Devil's Backbone better.  Both are fantastic.  In more ways than one.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 15, 2009, 11:20:09 AM
Since this is in my top 10 somewhere, allow me to retort.

1. Ofelia clearly can do wrong. She eats the grape which she is told not to do and she messes up her nice dress.

2. I don't think it's clear at all whether the fantasy world is "real" or not. You can check the spoiler thread for a discussion or two on this topic, I think.

3. The reason why she eats the grape is strictly biological. She hadn't eaten dinner (cuz she screwed up her dress) and was therefore very hungry. And did you see that grape!?!?!

4. I don't think that the bad guy being so evil is really a bad thing. Check out Anton Chigurh or any other super bad guy. The captain arguably has more depth than Chigurh.

I'm glad you liked it as much as you did, I just wish you loved it like I do.

I'm interested on other's people's takes on the fruit thing.  So yeah I'll take your advice and seek out the spoiler thread. Thanks :)

I would argue that Chigurh has far more depth.  But I'll admit it's something I probably bring to the character.  As for other classic bad guys - I must admit many of those I'm pretty bored by - Silence of the Lambs, Seven, etc - probably for the same reason.  
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 15, 2009, 11:21:14 AM
I really loved Pan's, it's a top 10 for me, too...

Really?  Why?  I'm actually pretty curious about this...(not lying in wait to rain on your praise)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on November 15, 2009, 11:33:33 AM
In 2006 I saw The Departed 3 times in theaters, and I saw Pan's first showing, opening day a few weeks after seeing The Departed. That combination is the reason I am currently on these forums.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 15, 2009, 11:39:20 AM
I really loved Pan's, it's a top 10 for me, too...

Really?  Why?  I'm actually pretty curious about this...(not lying in wait to rain on your praise)

It's either in my top 5 or 8, can't remember which. If you so desire I will provide deeper insight into my addled brain at a later time.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on November 15, 2009, 12:36:24 PM
I had Pan's somewhere in my top 20, so I'm sorry you didn't like it more. I don't feel that the characters are kept at a distance or one dimensional at all, Ofelia and Mercedes are both particularly strong characters, and I even think the evil captain is a more interesting villain than you give credit for. You compare Pan's to a multitude of other fantasy movies with similiar formulas, but honestly I think painting it in such broad strokes is a disservice to how unique and well crafted of a film it is. Pretty much any movie can be broken down into a familiar-sounding summary, but what counts is how it handled the material and the emotion it brings to it, which is where Pan's succeeds for me.

I agree with Junior that the ending is much less clear than you claim. I really think it can be interpreted either way, and I've gone back and forth on which I subscribe to.

Regarding the grape, in addition to what has already been said, I think part of it is that it's riffing on a familiar fairy-tale situation. The "forbidden fruit" that our hero knows they shouldn't take, but that draws them in with an almost magical allure, leading to dire consequences.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 15, 2009, 01:01:13 PM
I'm actually in the process of writing a paper on how Pan's Labyrinth is really an epic story in the vein of The Odyssey and the ending is plays a pivotal role in my argument. Is it a homecoming? If it's all in her head is that our new version of a homecoming (as in leaving reality for our own little world)?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 15, 2009, 03:47:01 PM
I really loved Pan's, it's a top 10 for me, too...

Really?  Why?  I'm actually pretty curious about this...(not lying in wait to rain on your praise)

Mostly because the other movies not in my top ten were worse.

But really, I was really drawn in by the story and the use of the fantasy elements, I felt, were perfect.  Almost the way that some of the better Jim Henson movies could have been, if they had been done for adults.  I love the historical backdrop, dealing with fascism, but not having Nazi stereotypes.  And I agree with Junior, et al, that the fantasy element was not clear.  The ambiguity makes it richer. 

One last thing.  I bought this DVD earlier this year and my daughter saw it.  Noting the puppet characters on the front, she was interested.  I told her that, no, she is certainly not old enough to watch it.   Maybe when she's 30.  To explain this, I started telling her the story, and she was riveted.  She was asking questions, and really wondering what would happen to the little girl and her mommy.  Honestly, I felt the same way.  It totally draws you in.  I'll probably have to give in and let her see it when she's 20 instead.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 15, 2009, 06:15:37 PM
I really loved Pan's, it's a top 10 for me, too...

Really?  Why?  I'm actually pretty curious about this...(not lying in wait to rain on your praise)

Mostly because the other movies not in my top ten were worse.

But really, I was really drawn in by the story and the use of the fantasy elements, I felt, were perfect.  Almost the way that some of the better Jim Henson movies could have been, if they had been done for adults.  I love the historical backdrop, dealing with fascism, but not having Nazi stereotypes.  And I agree with Junior, et al, that the fantasy element was not clear.  The ambiguity makes it richer.  

One last thing.  I bought this DVD earlier this year and my daughter saw it.  Noting the puppet characters on the front, she was interested.  I told her that, no, she is certainly not old enough to watch it.   Maybe when she's 30.  To explain this, I started telling her the story, and she was riveted.  She was asking questions, and really wondering what would happen to the little girl and her mommy.  Honestly, I felt the same way.  It totally draws you in.  I'll probably have to give in and let her see it when she's 20 instead.

Thanks Steve for that, and thanks to everyone who shared their insights on PL here so far.  I'll certainly think about these some more if/when I watch again.

By the way - just in general thanks everyone for your interest and support of this little marathon.  It's means a lot to me that people have taken interest!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 15, 2009, 06:22:50 PM
We're all interested because you've got a fantastic selection of films there.  It's cool to hear someone's response to a movie you love.  Unless you hate it.  Then we have to ban you from the forum.  But I'm SURE that won't happen, will it, Ferris?   ;D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 15, 2009, 06:25:21 PM
We're all interested because you've got a fantastic selection of films there.  It's cool to hear someone's response to a movie you love.  Unless you hate it.  Then we have to ban you from the forum.  But I'm SURE that won't happen, will it, Ferris?   ;D

Hmmm....I better be careful !  :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on November 15, 2009, 10:06:07 PM
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Hehe.

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 15, 2009, 10:49:08 PM
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Hehe.

pixote

An Omen perhaps ?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on November 16, 2009, 12:54:19 AM
I really liked the wipes in Pan's Labyrinth.  As for the rest of it, my reaction was much the same as Ferris's.

I like the Hellboy movies a lot more.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 16, 2009, 01:08:41 AM
I really liked the wipes in Pan's Labyrinth.  As for the rest of it, my reaction was much the same as Ferris's.

I like the Hellboy movies a lot more.

Oh man, that one where the camera pans (heh) through the mom's belly and into the fairy world is pretty freaking awesome.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on November 16, 2009, 07:54:11 AM
I'm actually in the process of writing a paper on how Pan's Labyrinth is really an epic story in the vein of The Odyssey and the ending is plays a pivotal role in my argument. Is it a homecoming? If it's all in her head is that our new version of a homecoming (as in leaving reality for our own little world)?

Awesome. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 17, 2009, 04:43:05 AM
Whether or not you liked Pan's Labyrinth, The Spirit of the Beehive is worth checking out.  Makes a great double bill.  If it helps, Criterion released Beehive on DVD, and it received three votes for the Filmspotting Top 100.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on November 17, 2009, 01:21:15 PM
Whether or not you liked Pan's Labyrinth, The Spirit of the Beehive is worth checking out.  Makes a great double bill.  If it helps, Criterion released Beehive on DVD, and it received three votes for the Filmspotting Top 100.

Also, for what it's worth, it's coming on Netflix Watch Instanly soon.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Verite on November 17, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
Whether or not you liked Pan's Labyrinth, The Spirit of the Beehive is worth checking out.  Makes a great double bill.  If it helps, Criterion released Beehive on DVD, and it received three votes for the Filmspotting Top 100.

Also, for what it's worth, it's coming on Netflix Watch Instanly soon.

Always a plus for the skeptics.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 21, 2009, 03:13:29 AM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #3
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Spirited Away
(2001, Hayao Miyazaki)


So THIS is what a masterpiece looks like!

I’m trying to think of an eloquent way to stretch “my jaw was in my lap for two hours” into 3-4 paragraphs!   This film has rocked my foundation a bit!  So THIS is what I’ve been missing?  Why didn’t anybody tell me?!  (Ok—yeah yeah you did).   Ok I’m even further ruined for crappy movies.  

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Suffice to say, I LOVED this.  I watched it twice today.  Once by myself and one with the kids.  And there are too many places to start, so let me just list some things off the top of my head:


1)  The animation is jaw dropping.  Just one incredible image after another.  I let out a few “are you kidding me”s during the train sequence. Oy vay.

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2)  I started with subtitles, but soon gave up because I realized how much of the art I was missing.  I started over with the dubs

3)  Two all-time great scenes – the first the stink spirit bath scene and the scenes involving the train ride.  I’m trying hard not to go on for three paragraphs on these alone.  (I read online this evening that the Japanese words at the end of the bath are “It feels good”, but was translated to English as “well done”.  It makes me want to learn Japanese just to pick up on all the nuance of Miyasaki’s language.

4)  It also makes me want to pick up a book on the Shinto spirituality and culture.  Clear are the themes of renewal and tradition, parenting, the vices of gluttony and the disconnective nature of modernization.  So much great thematic content peppered throughout.  For instance little details like the ironic line: “they must have been planning to put a river here”

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5)  All three kids of my watched this - the middle son was particularly keen on it and asked a million questions afterward.  He especially loved the no face guy – All three of us laughed out loud through the tea and cake scene.  Reminded me of something out of “Scary Movie”.  They kept guessing wrong what was going to happen next.  Loved that.

6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

The only downside – the only thing keeping me from putting this in my all time top ten is the esoteric over-hideousness of a bunch of the characters (and excessive puking etc).  Yeah – I know that was the point – and for the most part I was on board, but…

Anyways – so it’s becoming apparent the picking out awards for this marathon is going to be a bit tricky.  This is definitely going into my top 100.   Probably top 25.  

I’m further ruined for crappy movies.

Verdict:
One word:  Masterpiece

Grade: A+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 21, 2009, 03:41:06 AM
You don't know how happy your review makes me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(snif) "Our baby's all grown up and out savin' the world"

I'm so glad you watched it with your kids.  Some of my best memories are talking about this film with my kids.  You will love other Miyazaki, no doubt-- once you start, it's hard to stop.  But every other Miyazaki, every other anime, is really just a reflection of the joy I have at watching this film.

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 21, 2009, 03:42:01 AM
Ferris, This makes me sooo happy.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on November 21, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
I can't really get behind this one.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on November 21, 2009, 10:28:39 AM
It's awesome how much you enjoyed this!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on November 21, 2009, 10:58:16 AM
You don't know how happy your review makes me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ferris, This makes me sooo happy.
So happy.
I can't really get behind this one.
It's awesome how much you enjoyed this!

One of these things is not like the others.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 21, 2009, 01:41:21 PM
6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

So glad you loved SA Ferris, and the score is by Joe Hisaishi, probably the most overlooked of all the great composers working today, and Miyazaki almost always uses him for his films.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on November 21, 2009, 01:44:19 PM
So glad you loved it, ferris! Especially awesome that you watched it again with your kids. It really is a magical movie, I especially love that you pointed out the bath scene, also one of my favorite sequences.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on November 21, 2009, 05:05:06 PM
So glad you loved it, ferris! Especially awesome that you watched it again with your kids.

Indeed. I wish it had been out when I was young. The imagination on display is staggering. On par with Neverending Story and Labyrinth (films of MY youth).
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 21, 2009, 06:45:39 PM
6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

So glad you loved SA Ferris, and the score is by Joe Hisaishi, probably the most overlooked of all the great composers working today, and Miyazaki almost always uses him for his films.

It's an amazing score- there really are 4 or 5 completely distinct themes in this with varying styles. I'm looking forward to discovering more of Hisaichi's work.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 21, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

So glad you loved SA Ferris, and the score is by Joe Hisaishi, probably the most overlooked of all the great composers working today, and Miyazaki almost always uses him for his films.

It's an amazing score- there really are 4 or 5 completely distinct themes in this with varying styles. I'm looking forward to discovering more of Hisaichi's work.

I can't remember, have you seen Mononoke, because he scored that as well.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 21, 2009, 06:50:59 PM
So glad you loved it, ferris! Especially awesome that you watched it again with your kids. It really is a magical movie, I especially love that you pointed out the bath scene, also one of my favorite sequences.

Since I'm on outdoor enthusiast and volunteer one of my biggest pet peaves is finding old hooks and fishing lines left behind in our "prestine" northwest waterways.  So this scene just captured my imagination.  At first I wondered if these was Miyazaki taking a bit shot at the West, but it soon became clear that no - it was was a commentary on things close to home for him.


I found it ironic in reading today that Miyazaki took his inspiration for writing this upon noticing his neices' vacation house being littered with comic books that characterize girls as boy-crazy  - Since while I was watching this by wife was out with 7 girlfriends watching the new Twilight movie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 21, 2009, 06:51:16 PM
6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

So glad you loved SA Ferris, and the score is by Joe Hisaishi, probably the most overlooked of all the great composers working today, and Miyazaki almost always uses him for his films.

It's an amazing score- there really are 4 or 5 completely distinct themes in this with varying styles. I'm looking forward to discovering more of Hisaichi's work.

I can't remember, have you seen Mononoke, because he scored that as well.

I haven't, but you can bet I will now!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 21, 2009, 06:52:56 PM
6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

So glad you loved SA Ferris, and the score is by Joe Hisaishi, probably the most overlooked of all the great composers working today, and Miyazaki almost always uses him for his films.

It's an amazing score- there really are 4 or 5 completely distinct themes in this with varying styles. I'm looking forward to discovering more of Hisaichi's work.

I can't remember, have you seen Mononoke, because he scored that as well.

I haven't, but you can bet I will now!

You should love it, I can't recommend Miyazaki and Hisaishi enough.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 21, 2009, 07:00:22 PM
You don't know how happy your review makes me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(snif) "Our baby's all grown up and out savin' the world"


funny comment Steve...This film made me feel like I really had a pretty limited idea of what a movie was up to this point.

It's strange - animation has a wierd balance - because you can draw and do anything there must be an aweful temptation to deconstruct physical laws (think: David Lynch remaking Pink Floyd - The Wall!) so animators tend to limit themselves TOO much - in an effort to not cheat laws of weight and space.

What comes to mind is an interview with Pete Doctor (Monster's Inc, Up, etc) who spoke at length about times they had to cheat on perspective to make physicallity work -For instance, when the old man in Up picks up a book upon close up his fingers are twice the size just to make the eyes believe he can accomplish the task.  It's a slight of hand so painstakingly performed that it reveals a bit of self-imposed limitation.

What was really eye opening for me with my first Miyazaki is how creative he was blowing up physical laws but strangely at the same time making actions on the screen always feel authentic.  It never feels like a cheat.  this is what I've always wished I could see in animation...

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Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on November 21, 2009, 07:26:50 PM
And how about this guy, eh?
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Couldn't you just watch him work all day? :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 22, 2009, 01:48:21 AM

It's strange - animation has a wierd balance - because you can draw and do anything there must be an aweful temptation to deconstruct physical laws (think: David Lynch remaking Pink Floyd - The Wall!) so animators tend to limit themselves TOO much - in an effort to not cheat laws of weight and space.

What was really eye opening for me with my first Miyazaki is how creative he was blowing up physical laws but strangely at the same time making actions on the screen always feel authentic.  It never feels like a cheat.  this is what I've always wished I could see in animation...


Your "Lynch remaking the Wall" comment frightens me deeply.   :o

But I agree with you about Miyazaki re-creating worlds without cheating.  I think he pretty much does the same in Howl's Moving Castle.  But, as you see more of his films, take note of the many flying machines that peppers his films.  Some are amazingly outlandish, but they are all believable.

My family and I are considering doing a Miyazaki marathon for Thanksgiving week.  We've seen them all, but what joy!  We get to watch them again!  (Except I haven't seen My Neighbor Totoro-- which is terrible.  I've been trying to get it from Netflix for months!)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 22, 2009, 08:00:38 AM
6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

So glad you loved SA Ferris, and the score is by Joe Hisaishi, probably the most overlooked of all the great composers working today, and Miyazaki almost always uses him for his films.

It's an amazing score- there really are 4 or 5 completely distinct themes in this with varying styles. I'm looking forward to discovering more of Hisaichi's work.

I can't remember, have you seen Mononoke, because he scored that as well.

I haven't, but you can bet I will now!

"noke is incredibly happy. :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 22, 2009, 11:23:19 AM
I've decided I have a favorite child now.

Last night the family was watching Pirates of the Caribean last night and the middle son asked me if we could go in the other room and rewatch Spirited Away instead.  We did :)

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on November 22, 2009, 11:49:15 AM
Aww, you're gonna make me cry. :D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 22, 2009, 11:52:03 AM
I've decided I have a favorite child now.

Last night the family was watching Pirates of the Caribean last night and the middle son asked me if we could go in the other room and rewatch Spirited Away instead.  We did :)

Your child is so awesome.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 22, 2009, 01:16:08 PM
I've decided I have a favorite child now.

Last night the family was watching Pirates of the Caribean last night and the middle son asked me if we could go in the other room and rewatch Spirited Away instead.  We did :)

Your child is so awesome.

I've decided to pool the college funds for the other two into this one's account.

;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 25, 2009, 02:03:13 AM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #4
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Children of Men
(2006, Alfonso Cuarón)

I had a feeling I was going to start running out of superlatives about halfway through this marathon.

This is a fabulous film.  No doubt the bleakest film I think I've ever seen - probably #1 now on my list of one-timers....Of course, that being said I watched it twice  :o.  I'm going to try not to pick spoilerific screenshots, but it's going to be pretty hard!

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It's hard to talk about this film without comparing it to two others: Minority Report and District 9 - both taking place in not so distant future, each using a stunningly gritty style and (well I guess just two to be exact) taking a pretty frightening dystopic view...I'll save the debate for a future discussion, but suffice to say it was hard to ignore making these comparisons while watching the film.

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Right off the top, the most impressive thing is the staggeringly long and ambitious one-take scenes.  At around the 1/3 mark there is an incredibly long take in which a car is being ambushed.  The 2nd time I watched this I was stunned by the amount of choreography.  I usually don't like to watch extra features on films until I've had years to absorb them - but I do cheat from time to time.  This time my curiousity got the best of me.  The rig they put together to film that scene was pretty impressive.

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Also impressive - and a huge surprise was Clive Owen who, to this point, I'd only scene in bad romcoms.  He carries this film in a way that I'm struggling to think of someone more perfect.  He had to pull off disinterested slacker, unintentional hero and deeply emotionally scared.  I think he pulled this all off beautifully.

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The set design was incredible.  And because the subject of the lens is not the beauty we see on display in other futuristic films I have to give tons of credit to the cinematography, because this film made bad look really great.

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Man I'm pretty impressed with this film.  I admit I had to leave the house and take a walk through the neighborhood after this.  It was a bit much to absorb.  Starting on my walk I got reacquainted with a world not yet collapsed.  I took a few deep breaths!

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The soundtrack was pretty cool.  I was especially shocked hearing Court of the Crimson King!  Awesome.  


You have GOT to love this Pink Floyd homage:
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Lastly - the style of this, were so little was explained of the extraneous world.  It never broke character off the perspective of Theo.  I really appreciated the craftsmanship and adherence to self imposed rules.  The director obviously respects his craft quite a bit - and for his showing off I am nonetheless really impressed.

Another great film.  Another great Filmspotter recommendation!!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 25, 2009, 02:52:35 AM
And another great review!

I don't know how you are going to make it through this whole marathon without sounding like someone who just likes every movie out there-- there isn't a bad one in the bunch. 

Oh, wait, you've already done abuse to Pan's Labyrinth, so you won't sound naive.  Just wrong, sometimes.  But that's what makes you human!

Children of Men is pretty close to my favorite dystopia, and I love that sub-genre.  The acting is perfect, the look both realistic and dark, and the plot intense. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Gobman on November 25, 2009, 02:52:56 AM
I'm really pleased you saw this ferris and even more pleased you enjoyed it so much, personally I preferred the long tracking shot through the warzone/camp to the one in the car, regardless this was definitely the best film released in whatever year it was released in and in my top ten of the decade.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 25, 2009, 03:22:58 AM
Ferris, I hear what you are saying, and you're compltely right. It's a great review and it is a great great movie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on November 25, 2009, 06:47:03 AM
I'm really pleased you saw this ferris and even more pleased you enjoyed it so much, personally I preferred the long tracking shot through the warzone/camp to the one in the car, regardless this was definitely the best film released in whatever year it was released in and in my top ten of the decade.

I also loved that tracking shot. There's a point where it goes through a vehicle with the same speed as a rushing Clive Owen in a very little space. I do wonder how it (and everything else) was possible. I have a feeling this will rise drastically in my Top 100 upon a rewatch. I loved it so much the first time and I'm almost giddy hearing all this affirmation.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on November 25, 2009, 07:23:52 AM
Random Movie Death Match #2 - Children of Men vs. No Country for Old Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3297.0)

Vote!

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on November 25, 2009, 09:05:33 AM
I need to watch that film again. I liked it a good deal when I saw it in theaters, but did not think it was anything special.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 25, 2009, 05:00:19 PM
Random Movie Death Match #2 - Children of Men vs. No Country for Old Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3297.0)

Vote!

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Already did and the better film lost.  What else is new?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 12:57:34 AM
I'm really pleased you saw this ferris and even more pleased you enjoyed it so much, personally I preferred the long tracking shot through the warzone/camp to the one in the car, regardless this was definitely the best film released in whatever year it was released in and in my top ten of the decade.

I also loved that tracking shot. There's a point where it goes through a vehicle with the same speed as a rushing Clive Owen in a very little space. I do wonder how it (and everything else) was possible. I have a feeling this will rise drastically in my Top 100 upon a rewatch. I loved it so much the first time and I'm almost giddy hearing all this affirmation.

Cool.  I'm very impressed with the attention to craftmanship in this film.  Some may call it the director showing off - but I'm totally cool with it 100%.   The heavy material make keep this from ultimately being rewatchable, but I can see this creeping into my top 100 and spending some signficant time there.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 01:29:14 AM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #5
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Mulholland Drive
(2001, David Lynch)


I'll start with this line from a memorable scene in the movie:

"Just forget you ever saw it.  It's better that way."

Maybe for my aching cerebrum - perhaps that character is right! :)

Well for the first one hour and 53 minutes of this film I was having fun with this, enjoying the wierdness and stylized staginess of a Lynch film and Niaomi Watt's campy performance.  Then of course my mind blew up.   I have my theories that do a decent attempt to tie all this together, but I must admit I'm logged more celebral hours to Schrödinger's Cat over the last 48 hours.  Just bad timing there I suppose.  

This was a lot of fun.  It is no doubt a unique experience - as you come to expect from Lynch.  I have a term I call "DFU" - it the Director's F-You .  We've seen them throughout cinema - like the Burning house in Synecdoche NY, the lunch with the Asian guy in Fargo,  or the pick really any scene in 8 1/2 where the director basically just has fun screwing with your head.  Sometimes this can be the most rewarding stuff in the film and sometimes it can turn you off and make you hate the whole experience.  Going into this film I expected a ton more of the latter - which was the main reason I never bother to see this up til now.  I was pleasantly surprised that most of the out-there stuff was way cool.  And when we get to that pivotal point I was invested enough to say ok- now what the hell just happened.  But there was also stuff like the Silencio sequence.  Meh.  Yawn.  

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"It's weird to be calling myself"

What was really cool about the experience of watching this was the fact that there were so many "no way - that's so stupid" moments that you have to apologize for later in the film.  I think of the scene where Betty breaks into the apartment through the window.  I'm like no way - that character would never do that.  Or the first love scene, I'm like - ok there's been some implied flirtations but this is right out of penthouse letters.  But by the end (and in particular on a rewatch) those scenes are hillarious - just great!


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Upon second viewings of films I keep my ear out for sections that could be used for Masacre Theater.  Scenes like these have to be just right: dialog between two people, nothing that gives it away, and kinda punch line at the end.  I found like 5 scenes in this.  Not sure if they done scenes from this (they haven't out of the 190 of the episodes I've heard so far)

Speaking of which, a delight finally finding out where "let's play this nice and close" comes from.  Very cool

Which reminds me - there were some very cool scenes in this, the first being that audition scene.  The whole sequence with the black book and the vacuum cleaner reminded me of something out of a Tarantino film!

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Speaking of QT, cool homages in this!  I'm not sure I spotted all of them, but I caught a few...

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Um so - Naomi Watts, huh?  Pretty friggin good performance.  I can't see how any red blooded American male would not be totally in love with Betty after watching this!  Then she gets a 1/2 hour at the end to show she's not just a pretty face.   I was pretty impressed to say the least.

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So as I'm typing all this I'm talking myself into liking it quite a bit!  

But I must mitigate this praise a bit.  Lynch's general "style" works for some people and not for others.  For me it was just ok.  I realize this was supposed to be a TV pilot at one point - and it kinda fealt that way.  In the end, after a 2nd viewing, I found myself a little less willing to put the energy into tying all the loose ends together.  Who's the old guy behind the dumpster?  What's the significance of teh pearl earring.  At some point you gotta figure half of the things I'm trying to find out are just DMFs and I just stop caring.  

The score was a bit odd?  It was like from an 80's TV drama (yeah, I realize, but STILL).    I know Lynch loves to play anachronistically, but still...

Verdict:
Very cool.  Still trying to figure it out.  Naomi Watts is fabulous

Grade: B+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on November 26, 2009, 07:50:04 AM
It's almost arrogant to try to interpret this film but if you look at the dumpster scene in tandem with the box, key, old couple and "Betty" you should arrive at something satisfactory. I love most of the weavings of this film (in particular the diner scene, the poolside party scene and the interactions between the two women) but some leave me cold (Silencio-related stuff and the cowboy-related stuff). I don't think any two people will have the same reaction to this film and I would not hold it against anyone if they unreservedly loved or hated any and every scene.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 11:08:44 AM
It's almost arrogant to try to interpret this film...

I love this comment.  This should be on the DVD cover!

...but if you look at the dumpster scene in tandem with the box, key, old couple and "Betty" you should arrive at something satisfactory. I love most of the weavings of this film (in particular the diner scene, the poolside party scene and the interactions between the two women) but some leave me cold (Silencio-related stuff and the cowboy-related stuff). I don't think any two people will have the same reaction to this film and I would not hold it against anyone if they unreservedly loved or hated any and every scene.

That cowboy scene was one of my favorites in the film.  It's scenes like these that make Inglourious Basterds one of my favorite films of the decade.


And this dude was just rife with smarmy goodness.  Great character :)

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Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 26, 2009, 11:10:49 AM
Mulholland Drive is Lynch's second best film (after The Straight Story). So glad you liked it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 11:13:31 AM
Mulholland Drive is Lynch's second best film (after The Straight Story). So glad you liked it.

UGH!  Straight Story!  How do I keep forgetting to watch this!?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 26, 2009, 11:14:42 AM
Mulholland Drive is Lynch's second best film (after The Straight Story). So glad you liked it.

UGH!  Straight Story!  How do I keep forgetting to watch this!?

It's the least "Lynch" film but his best imo.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on November 26, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
Mulholland Drive is Lynch's second best film (after The Straight Story). So glad you liked it.
I believe you're looking for this (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3408.0).
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 26, 2009, 12:54:13 PM
Mulholland Drive is Lynch's second best film (after The Straight Story). So glad you liked it.
I believe you're looking for this (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3408.0).

That's not unpopular.  The Straight Story is clearly Lynch's best film.  Mulholland Dr. is... problematic.  I still can't decide if it's good or not.  And I don't know that I want to watch it again to determine its status.  I'm in Lynch limbo.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on November 26, 2009, 12:55:39 PM
The Straight Story is clearly Lynch's best film. 
I believe you're also looking for this (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=3408.0).
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on November 26, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
That's not unpopular.  The Straight Story is clearly Lynch's best film.  Mulholland Dr. is... problematic.  I still can't decide if it's good or not.  And I don't know that I want to watch it again to determine its status.  I'm in Lynch limbo.

I'm pretty sure the popular opinion is that Blue Velvet is Lynch's best.  At least in the critical world at large.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 26, 2009, 12:57:56 PM
I know where I am and I have my opinions firmly planted.  Until my wife tells me I'm wrong.  Or a mod kicks me off.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on November 26, 2009, 01:35:26 PM
I know where I am and I have my opinions firmly planted.  Until my wife tells me I'm wrong.  Or a mod kicks me off.
I think Mulholland Drive is terrific but I total understand that it isn't for everyone. I was just teasing you guys about picking The Straight Story as Lynch's best; I don't think it's a bad movie, but that is definitely an uncommon opinion. I'd think Blue Velvet, Mulhollaand Drive or maybe Eraserhead would top most lists. Of course the correct answer is the Twin Peaks pilot.  :)

Until my wife tells me I'm wrong. 
The real Global Moderator.  ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 01:41:24 PM
The real Global Moderator.  ;)

You got THAT right!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 01:42:46 PM

I think Mulholland Drive is terrific but I total understand that it isn't for everyone. I was just teasing you guys about picking The Straight Story as Lynch's best; I don't think it's a bad movie, but that is definitely an uncommon opinion. I'd think Blue Velvet, Mulhollaand Drive or maybe Eraserhead would top most lists. Of course the correct answer is the Twin Peaks pilot.  :)

So trivia question there.  Twin Peaks is the only TV show to make a Filmspotting/Cinecast Top 5 list!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on November 26, 2009, 06:42:08 PM
Wild At Heart.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on November 26, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
Reading reactions to Mulholland Dr. is always fascinating. It's strange what does and doesn't work for different people. The Silencio scene was one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on November 26, 2009, 11:30:26 PM
I also like how people are still open to all kinds of interpretations of events, simply because Lynch won't tell anybody that they're right or wrong.  I, however, very much believe the most popular theory that the first 2/3 is a dream of the real Diane Selwyn, who has cast her dream-self as the innocent and hopeful "Betty Elms", reconstructing her history and persona into something like an old Hollywood movie. In the dream, Betty is successful, charming, and lives the fantasy life of a soon-to-be-famous actress. The last third of the film presents Diane's bleak real life, in which she has failed both personally and professionally. She arranges for Camilla, a cold ex-lover, to be killed, and unable to cope with the guilt, re-imagines her as the dependent, pliable amnesiac named Rita. Clues to her inevitable demise, however, continue to appear throughout her dream.
The key scene to this is the dinner party in the waking world where the more oddball characters from the dream world, like the cowboy, all make an appearance.


There are detailed breakdowns online  (http://archive.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2001/10/23/mulholland_drive_analysis/index.html) that explain how and why this is the best possible interpretation of events.  On my 3rd viewing, going in with that knowledge, the film made a heck of a lot of sense.  Turned it from a frustrating experiment to one of my favorite films of the decade.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 26, 2009, 11:34:35 PM
I also like how people are still open to all kinds of interpretations of events, simply because Lynch won't tell anybody that they're right or wrong.  I, however, very much believe the most popular theory that the first 2/3 is a dream (you see a face fall into a pillow right at the 2nd or 3rd scene) and when Betty is told it's time to wake up, the real crazy section is the waking nightmare world she's living in for having her lover killed.

There are detailed breakdowns online that explain how and why this is the best possible interpretation of events.  On my 3rd viewing, going in with that knowledge, the film made a heck of a lot of sense.  Turned it from a frustrating experiment to one of my favorite films of the decade.

My take is pretty close I took it as a masturbatory fantasy.  You notice the rock facade on the fireplace going in and out of focus.  Why else would the director have the WORST day of his life :)  Shoot - told myself I didn't really care - and look what I did there.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on November 27, 2009, 12:19:37 AM
My take is the same as 1SO's though I still believe the cowboy stuff doesn't quite work.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 28, 2009, 10:03:53 AM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #6
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High Fidelity
(2000, Stephen Frears)

I screwed up and accidently deleted my review!  To summarize quickly:  This was a lot of fun. All the "top 5" type stuff in the record store was awesome and stripped right from converstations I've had with my friends over a lifetime.  The mix tape stuff was particularily spot on.

I'd stop short of saying it was a "great" film due the dullness of the Laura character.  I never did buy their relationship and him being torn over losing her. To that end - as blasphemous as it sounds - I wasn't convinced Cusak was perfect in this role.  Very good, mind you - but not perfect.  

I will say it was a great Screenplay - among the best I've ever seen.

So overall, probably will sneak somewhere in my Top 250 somewhere in the nostaglia area around The Breakfast Club


Verdict:
Great concept, great screenplay, decent execution.  Good bit of nostolgia.  Overall pretty fun.

Grade: B+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 28, 2009, 11:37:03 AM
It's funny for me how many people make a deeply personal connection with this movie.  Yeah, in the 80's I made mix tapes for my sweetie... and for myself... but it just didn't make the personal connection.

Still, a funny, cool, enjoyable movie.  But I never considered it among the greats.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on November 28, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
3.  re-ordered my albums autobiographically (man the mp3 generation is really missing out on this!!)
Amen to that.

4.  tried asking for $50k after getting turned down for a dollar
You hound!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 28, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
It's funny for me how many people make a deeply personal connection with this movie.  Yeah, in the 80's I made mix tapes for my sweetie... and for myself... but it just didn't make the personal connection.

Still, a funny, cool, enjoyable movie.  But I never considered it among the greats.

I'm not sure the movie is, but I think the screenplay definitely is
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on November 28, 2009, 01:04:57 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: BlueVoid on November 28, 2009, 01:33:20 PM
Enjoyed the review as always Ferris.  It's a good film... and yeah.. how had you not seen it?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 28, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
Enjoyed the review as always Ferris.  It's a good film... and yeah.. how had you not seen it?

thanks.  I don't know.  

My facebook status this morning:

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Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on November 28, 2009, 02:47:49 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Because it's so much better?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 28, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Because it's so much better?

Is the book ever not better? You just have to accept that books are long form and will ALWAYS be more developed and realized. Faulting a movie for not matching a book is like faulting a painting for not be sculptural enough.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on November 28, 2009, 03:05:35 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Because it's so much better?

Is the book ever not better? You just have to accept that books are long form and will ALWAYS be more developed and realized. Faulting a movie for not matching a book is like faulting a painting for not be sculptural enough.
I can rationalize all I want and agree, in theory, with what you say, but so often, if I've read the book, I can't help but make the comparison when I see the movie. And sometimes both hold up just fine. There are a lot of movies based on books that I love.

I don't think the painting-sculpture analogy works perfectly (though I see your point)? A sculpture is not source material for a painting (well, there may be some instances, but I can't think of any - anyway, it's not as common as using a book for the source material for a movie). It's almost impossible not to make the comparison between book and movie if you've experienced both - you're seeing the same characters, the same story through a different medium.

And yes, also by the way, sometimes the movie is better than the book. P.D. James's Children of Men is really mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 28, 2009, 03:10:39 PM
I didnt talk about this movie after I saw it, but I loved it too. It's got the great fourth wall moments, those great top 5 lists(didnt identify with the big chill moment, but I loved it) and I even identifed with his neuroses. Not entirely, but somewhat. Those scenes in the record store were great.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on November 28, 2009, 03:12:07 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Because it's so much better?

Is the book ever not better? You just have to accept that books are long form and will ALWAYS be more developed and realized. Faulting a movie for not matching a book is like faulting a painting for not be sculptural enough.
I can rationalize all I want and agree, in theory, with what you say, but so often, if I've read the book, I can't help but make the comparison when I see the movie. And sometimes both hold up just fine. There are a lot of movies based on books that I love.

I don't think the painting-sculpture analogy works perfectly (though I see your point)? A sculpture is not source material for a painting (well, there may be some instances, but I can't think of any - anyway, it's not as common as using a book for the source material for a movie). It's almost impossible not to make the comparison between book and movie if you've experienced both - you're seeing the same characters, the same story through a different medium.

And yes, also by the way, sometimes the movie is better than the book. P.D. James's Children of Men is really mediocre at best.

I agree with everything you said, especially about Children of Men. I agree its impossible to not compare the two when you have read the book, I was just saying that it's silly to let a book ruin a movie for you. It's better just to accept it will almost never compare.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on November 28, 2009, 03:22:20 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Because it's so much better?

I don't know about "better."  The movie was different than what my experience of the book was, and I liked that experience a lot more than the movie.  Books are more personal.  I left the High Fidelity movie thinking it was a totally fine, yet totally bland and unmemorable adaptation of a book I had loved reading.  Except for Jack Black, I thought he was terrific.

Plenty of movies are better than the books they're based on.  Usually this is because they try to add something cinematic to them.  Movies that enact most of the story from a book and don't bother to add anything new tend to be disappointing.  The Ice Storm film is much better than the book, and it's entirely due to Ang Lee's meticulous style.  The Big Sleep is better than the book (which is nonetheless a great book) because Hawks and Bogart and Bacall and Faulkner and Brackett bring so much of their own sensibilities to Chandler's novel and end up creating something entirely new.

I don't think Frears or Cusak brought anything interesting to Hornby's book.  They just succeeded in filming it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 28, 2009, 04:56:31 PM
The book ruined the movie for me.
Because it's so much better?

I don't know about "better."  The movie was different than what my experience of the book was, and I liked that experience a lot more than the movie.  Books are more personal.  I left the High Fidelity movie thinking it was a totally fine, yet totally bland and unmemorable adaptation of a book I had loved reading.  Except for Jack Black, I thought he was terrific.

Plenty of movies are better than the books they're based on.  Usually this is because they try to add something cinematic to them.  Movies that enact most of the story from a book and don't bother to add anything new tend to be disappointing.  The Ice Storm film is much better than the book, and it's entirely due to Ang Lee's meticulous style.  The Big Sleep is better than the book (which is nonetheless a great book) because Hawks and Bogart and Bacall and Faulkner and Brackett bring so much of their own sensibilities to Chandler's novel and end up creating something entirely new.

I don't think Frears or Cusak brought anything interesting to Hornby's book.  They just succeeded in filming it.

I did catch myself wondering who could have played the Cusak role better.  I haven't come up with anyone yet.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on November 28, 2009, 06:26:26 PM
I've never been interested in making sense of Mulholland Dr.  I just love the ride.  (Unlike the tractor ride in that other film, which I just barely like.  Hi, Thor!)

High Fidelity was fine but made zero impression on me.  Have never considered revisiting it.

ferris, after this marathon, will you have seen all the '00s films in the Filmspotting Top 100?

Adaptation
Almost Famous
Before Sunset
Children of Men
City of God
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
High Fidelity
In the Mood for Love
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, The
Lost in Translation
Mulholland Dr.
No Country for Old Men
Pan's Labyrinth
Punch Drunk Love
Requiem for a Dream
Spirited Away
There Will Be Blood
Wall-E
Y Tu Mama Tambien
Yi Yi

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on November 28, 2009, 06:29:23 PM
I've never been interested in making sense of Mulholland Dr.  I just love the ride.  (Unlike the tractor ride in that other film, which I just barely like.  Hi, Thor!)

High Fidelity was fine but made zero impression on me.  Have never considered revisiting it.

ferris, after this marathon, will you have seen all the '00s films in the Filmspotting Top 100?

Adaptation
Almost Famous

Before Sunset
Children of Men
City of God
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
High Fidelity
In the Mood for Love
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, The
Lost in Translation
Mulholland Dr.
No Country for Old Men
Pan's Labyrinth
Punch Drunk Love

Requiem for a Dream
Spirited Away
There Will Be Blood
Wall-E

Y Tu Mama Tambien
Yi Yi

pixote

I've got most of those already.  I've been considering adding another 5-10 films to this marathon because this has gone a lot faster than I thought...

(I crossed off the ones I've seen)  I want to watch The Lives of Others and In the Bedroom as well.  Maybe I should do another poll? 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on November 28, 2009, 10:20:48 PM
The Lives of Others must be seen.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on November 28, 2009, 11:27:24 PM
ahem CITY OF GOD ahem
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on November 29, 2009, 12:53:33 AM
I agree with Junior about CoG.  And I can't believe you haven't seen Before Sunset yet.  Don't you feel that you've missed out on a good portion of Filmspotting conversations without that film?

My great regret is not seeing Requiem for  Dream yet. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on November 29, 2009, 01:42:23 AM
My great regret is not seeing Requiem for  Dream yet. 

Traditionally that's a movie you regret after seeing. ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on November 29, 2009, 06:24:30 AM
I agree with Junior about CoG.  And I can't believe you haven't seen Before Sunset yet.  Don't you feel that you've missed out on a good portion of Filmspotting conversations without that film?

Having seen City of God last night I have to agree. Though I've never seen the Before Sunset/Sunrise films either. Hi Clovis!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 02, 2009, 04:49:15 PM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #7
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United 93
(2006, Paul Greengrass)

After seeing this film, it seems completely disingenuous to treat this film side by side with the other films in this marathon.  This film transcends popular media.  

So I'll leave my review as this:
A huge thanks to Paul Greengrass for this extremely well crafted, incredibly respectful, unbiased, real-time snapshop of the events of that morning.  I don't have much interest trying to conjury up any critical analysis beyond that.  

I will only add that my wife and I talked until 2:30 in the morning recounting the events of that day (which seem like yesterday) after sobbing through this film.   Like many Americans it's been very hard to confront the truths of that day.  This film was pretty cathartic to that end.

Thanks to everyone who coaxed me into finally watching it.


Verdict:
Extremely well crafted, respectful, unbiased, real-time snapshop of the events of a tragic morning

Grade: A+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 02, 2009, 05:10:33 PM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #7
United 93
(2006, Paul Greengrass)

After seeing this film, it seems completely disingenuous to treat this film side by side with the other films in this marathon.  This film transcends popular media. 

So I'll leave my review as this:
A huge thanks to Paul Greengrass for this extremely well crafted, incredibly respectful, unbiased, real-time snapshop of the events of that morning.  I don't have much interest trying to conjury up any critical analysis beyond that. 

I will only add that my wife and I talked until 2:30 in the morning recounting the events of that day (which seem like yesterday) after sobbing through this film.   Like many Americans it's been very hard to confront the truths of that day.  This film was pretty cathartic to that end.

Thanks to everyone who coaxed me into finally watching it.


Yep.  That's right.  This isn't entertainment.  It's experiencing what they experienced, except that we get a large dollop of dread, because we know what's going to happen.  It is a magnificent achievement.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on December 02, 2009, 05:44:47 PM
It's in my Top 100.
In fact, right now it's in my Top 25.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 02, 2009, 05:53:17 PM
It's in my Top 100.
In fact, right now it's in my Top 25.

No way I can argue with that!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 05, 2009, 02:29:45 PM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #8
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Brick
(2006, Ryan Johnson)


Ok, so this had lots of shots of feet:

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And had lot of, you know, birds, clocks, and ceiling fans and that
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And characters said lots of clever things like:
"keep your specs on for Dode",
"what's your play here"

and "let's shake and blow"

Throw in a bit of humor,
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An (I must admit strikingly gorgeous) fem-fatale,
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...a bit of the off-beat just for fun:
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and consider that Ryan Johnson is the coolest cat around and the whole story about the high school play and this this has everything going for it for me

(Man, what I'm about to say is is going to make me unpopular around here )

But I tired of this about half way through.  After the gimmick is established there isn't much left but some shallow characters and a thin plot.  But I have that issue with most noir - so this is perhaps a genre thing.

Now that said, I can TOTALLY see why people love this, watch it again and again, and quote it endlessly with their friends.  But after the gimmick was established there wasn't a whole lot left for me.  I liked Brothers Bloom a lot, and I'm really looking forward to Johnson's next project, but this thing seemed to have all the traps and pretentions of a film school project.  


Verdict:
I honor what he did here, I think he accomplished well what he set out to do.  But it didn't really work for me at all.

Grade: C- 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on December 05, 2009, 02:34:59 PM
It's a shame you didnt like it Ferris. I really loved it, as many do, but I can certainly see how someone would not like it. It certainly has an odd tone.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on December 05, 2009, 02:54:54 PM
Ferris, we can no longer be friends.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 05, 2009, 03:07:34 PM
Ferris, we can no longer be friends.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on December 05, 2009, 03:08:12 PM
Good job, ferris.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on December 05, 2009, 04:12:03 PM
The person who wrote this review (http://1strongopinion.blogspot.com/2006/04/high-school-confidential.html) expresses my thoughts perfectly.  

It's a shame he isn't sharing his opinions anymore.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on December 05, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
Too bad it wasn't for you ferris :(
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 05, 2009, 11:22:43 PM
A shame, a terrible shame. 

But I'll still go out to drink hot cocoa with you.  :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on December 05, 2009, 11:25:05 PM
Good job, ferris.

 :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on December 05, 2009, 11:47:22 PM
Sorry you didn't like it more, ferris, but I think I can understand your response even if I don't empathize. I'm wondering what I'll think of it when I watch it again - I've seen it only once.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 04:10:25 AM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #9
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The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
(2007, Julian Schnabel)


After a few false starts I finally watched the Diving Bell and the Butterfly this evening.  I went in knowing the basic plot: stroke victim wakes in a hospital paralyzed from the neck down and only able to communicate with his left eyelash.  Compelling hook to be sure.  Especially when you discover that this film is based on a book he himself wrote via dictation communicating through said eyelash.  

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So the challenge for the filmmaker is 1) how to make a hospital drama that spends most of it's time in a single patient's room from being dull and over sentimental and 2) how to make interesting the mundane process of dictation - one requiring a constant repetition of spoken letters and the occasional blink.  For me the director completely rose to this challenge - creating a completely compelling story, first seen exclusively through the first person, but then later - as almost for the audience to be able to breathe itself, transitions to a third person perspective.

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The danger of a film like this is to spend time easing the audience through the narrative by using too many Ron Howardesque exposition delivery crutches such as flashbacks and external narratives.  This film however, never once broke rank and left the universe of the perceptions and imaginations of Jean-Do.   There are some flashbacks, but only one can be counted as truly filling in the holes in the plot.  

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I absolutely LOVED Marie-Josée Croze.  I'm not sure if I thought her acting was great or if it was just the camera's sheer admiration of her face - certainly echo'ing the feelings of Jean-Do.  

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I also thought it was a good choice that the film didn't shy away from the "hero" being perhaps not really the best guy.  So many times I caught myself struck by the incongruence of the what he was thinking vs how he looked.  He is sarcastic, bitter, cracks jokes but then you see he face and you can't help but see a "vegetable".  It was a huge lesson for me.  One I hope I don't forget the next time I come across someone similarly disabled.


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I will say in the end, I'll stop short of giving this my highest grade.  Not so much for negatives (I can really think of none) but just that I anticipated being overwhelmed with emotion with this, but came out just mildly entertained.  But I will say I come out a bit wiser, and a lot more open-minded.  Nothing wrong with that.  

I must admit (here is my worse-ever criticism of a movie yet)  I got really frustrated with the fact that they couldn't come up with a more ingenious way to do the blinky-eye thing.  Yeah yeah I know, but STILL what were they thinking!

I watch two movies back to back (this one and Touching the Void) that delved deeply into how one motivates himself to continue forward when really all hope is lost.  They both spotlighted an incredible true story of men - given really no option - pressed on heroically given just one pretty lousy option.  It's been a rough year - been looking for a bit of motivation.  This is a 1-2 punch.  Love when a movie can do that.


Verdict:
Harrowing story of overcoming an overwhelming disability.  Very thought-provoking, but a bit more disconnective then I'd hoped.

Grade: B+  
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on December 12, 2009, 11:13:49 AM
Great write-up, ferris!

I must admit (here is my worse-ever criticism of a movie yet)  I got really frustrated with the fact that they couldn't come up with a more ingenious way to do the blinky-eye thing.  Yeah yeah I know, but STILL what were they thinking!
Do you mean they couldn't they figure out another communication code - rather than going through the whole alphabet every single time? eg. Morse code? If this is what you meant, this REALLY bugged Uri, too. The inefficiency of the method, however lovely to listen to, bothered him.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on December 12, 2009, 11:18:44 AM
Great write-up, ferris!

I must admit (here is my worse-ever criticism of a movie yet)  I got really frustrated with the fact that they couldn't come up with a more ingenious way to do the blinky-eye thing.  Yeah yeah I know, but STILL what were they thinking!
Do you mean they couldn't they figure out another communication code - rather than going through the whole alphabet every single time? eg. Morse code? If this is what you meant, this REALLY bugged Uri, too. The inefficiency of the method, however lovely to listen to, bothered him.

I remember thinking that there were a lot of better ways to communicate, but it is a true story so this is the way it really happened (I assume, although I have not looked deeper into the real story).
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on December 12, 2009, 11:47:20 AM
Great write-up, ferris!

I must admit (here is my worse-ever criticism of a movie yet)  I got really frustrated with the fact that they couldn't come up with a more ingenious way to do the blinky-eye thing.  Yeah yeah I know, but STILL what were they thinking!
Do you mean they couldn't they figure out another communication code - rather than going through the whole alphabet every single time? eg. Morse code? If this is what you meant, this REALLY bugged Uri, too. The inefficiency of the method, however lovely to listen to, bothered him.

I remember thinking that there were a lot of better ways to communicate, but it is a true story so this is the way it really happened (I assume, although I have not looked deeper into the real story).
Yes, I think the fact that it was a true story made the communication method all the more frustrating for Uri - imagining that a real person had to use, what he thought, was such an inefficient system.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 12, 2009, 11:49:57 AM
Do you mean they couldn't they figure out another communication code - rather than going through the whole alphabet every single time? eg. Morse code? If this is what you meant, this REALLY bugged Uri, too. The inefficiency of the method, however lovely to listen to, bothered him.

Yeah, those doctors and nurses and folks-- I mean, what else were they doing?  They should have taken out a few days to figure out a really good system of communication, rather than just keeping the guy alive.  

Real stories are tough-- reality keeps getting in the way.  And it worked great in the movie.

Love this film-- it's in my top 100-- because of it's beauty and the fact that it was touching without being sentimental, and because all the characters are real.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on December 12, 2009, 11:53:28 AM
Given his community (fashion etc) you can see how nobody would think of a better way to communicate. It's easy to imagine that nobody he knew had any experience in codes etc. I would guess the idea of a different, more efficient method,  probably never crossed anyones mind.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 12:13:23 PM
Given his community (fashion etc) you can see how nobody would think of a better way to communicate. It's easy to imagine that nobody he knew had any experience in codes etc. I would guess the idea of a different, more efficient method,  probably never crossed anyones mind.

I'm torn between dropping the subject - because obviously it is a true story, and it's an incredible feet what both he and all those around him had to do ...and continuing the conversation draws the thread further away from the positive elements of the film...

but I'm with URI...assign each letter a 3 digit code, each of the digits between 1 and 4.  The most times someone would have to blink for a letter is 8 times.  It would take an interpreter at least a few days to get used to it, but I've got to think this is FAR more efficient in the writing of a BOOK!

a -  1 1 1
b -  1 1 2
c -  1 1 3
d -  1 1 4

e -  2 1 1
f -  2 1 2
g -  2 1 3
h -  2 1 4

i -  1 2 1
j -  1 2 2
k - 1 2 3
l -  1 2 4

m - 2 2 1
n-  2 2 2
o - 2 2 3
p - 2 2 4

q -  3 1 1
r -  3 1 2
s -  3 1 3
t -  3 1 4

u -  3 2 1
v -  3 2 2
w -  3 2 3
x -  3 2 4

y -  3 3 1
z -  3 3 2

I think even a fashion guy could figure this out ;).  this I just came up off the top of my head this morning.  If I'd put some thought into it I'm sure there are far more efficient ways still.

For instance you could rearrange to make the most common letters requiring the fewest blinks.  

In John McCain's war camp they worked out a similar code system to communicate between prison cells using scratches in the dirt.  


Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on December 12, 2009, 12:16:41 PM
That is basically the code my girlfriend and I thought of as well. However, I still think it is easy to imagine how many people would not think of this type of system if they had little math or logic background.

I didnt bring up the fashion world as a way to say people in fashion are stupid, just that the skill set they need to succeed in their world does not include the skills needed in creating an efficient communication code.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 12, 2009, 12:23:59 PM

I didnt bring up the fashion world as a way to say people in fashion are stupid, just that the skill set they need to succeed in their world does not include the skills needed in creating an efficient communication code.

I was thinking pretty close to the same thing.  Programmers (ahem) and engineers have certain kinds of thinking.  And professional writers/medical staff have other modes of thinking.  It's seems inefficient, but it was acceptable to them. 

If only Ferris and Uri were there!  He could have written the equivalent of War and Peace!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on December 12, 2009, 12:49:18 PM
Given his community (fashion etc) you can see how nobody would think of a better way to communicate. It's easy to imagine that nobody he knew had any experience in codes etc. I would guess the idea of a different, more efficient method,  probably never crossed anyones mind.

I'm torn between dropping the subject - because obviously it is a true story, and it's an incredible feet what both he and all those around him had to do ...and continuing the conversation draws the thread further away from the positive elements of the film...

but I'm with URI...assign each letter a 3 digit code, each of the digits between 1 and 4.  The most times someone would have to blink for a letter is 8 times.  It would take an interpreter at least a few days to get used to it, but I've got to think this is FAR more efficient in the writing of a BOOK!

a -  1 1 1
b -  1 1 2
c -  1 1 3
d -  1 1 4

e -  2 1 1
f -  2 1 2
g -  2 1 3
h -  2 1 4

i -  1 2 1
j -  1 2 2
k - 1 2 3
l -  1 2 4

m - 2 2 1
n-  2 2 2
o - 2 2 3
p - 2 2 4

q -  3 1 1
r -  3 1 2
s -  3 1 3
t -  3 1 4

u -  3 2 1
v -  3 2 2
w -  3 2 3
x -  3 2 4

y -  3 3 1
z -  3 3 2

I think even a fashion guy could figure this out ;).  this I just came up off the top of my head this morning.  If I'd put some thought into it I'm sure there are far more efficient ways still.

For instance you could rearrange to make the most common letters requiring the fewest blinks.  

In John McCain's war camp they worked out a similar code system to communicate between prison cells using scratches in the dirt.  

:D ferris, I think you and Uri would get along great.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 12, 2009, 12:52:33 PM
Good write-up ferris, even if I disagree completely. My main problem was the one thing you said the movie didn't do, it lost me the first time it broke from its narrative structure to fill in a plot point and then it became progressively worse as the movie would continually break from its narrative structure with no rhyme or reason beyond milking emotion out of the audience in overly manipulative ways. I can't recall, I have tried to forget the movie to be frank, but it was either the phone call from the dad or the shaving sequence with the dad that was the worst offender in this regard, existing only so that the audience can go "aw, isn't that sad" but not staying in step with the structure of the film.

Actually now that I think about it my biggest problem with the breaks was that the film ties the single perspective into the awakening of the main character. The more control he gets over his condition the more the camera opens up, but despite establishing this as a thematic structure the film breaks from it all the time in order to manipulate, like the lone shot of the wife at the train station taking place at a point when his world should still be closed off.

Either way, good write-up.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on December 12, 2009, 12:57:57 PM
Do you mean they couldn't they figure out another communication code - rather than going through the whole alphabet every single time? eg. Morse code? If this is what you meant, this REALLY bugged Uri, too. The inefficiency of the method, however lovely to listen to, bothered him.

Yeah, those doctors and nurses and folks-- I mean, what else were they doing?  They should have taken out a few days to figure out a really good system of communication, rather than just keeping the guy alive.  

Real stories are tough-- reality keeps getting in the way.  And it worked great in the movie.
steve, you seem pretty irritated with the suggestion that there could have been a better way? Uri, quite honestly, is a very compassionate , uncritical person (much more so than I am, in fact) - but he's also very practically minded and for him, watching them use the system they used was like watching a someone patiently emptying a plugged up bathtub with a spoon when he or she would just have to walk over to the next room to get a bucket. And for the record, with me, Uri loved the film. This point about communication was just one of the things that came up in our much larger discussion of the film after we saw it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 01:34:21 PM

I didnt bring up the fashion world as a way to say people in fashion are stupid, just that the skill set they need to succeed in their world does not include the skills needed in creating an efficient communication code.

I was thinking pretty close to the same thing.  Programmers (ahem) and engineers have certain kinds of thinking.  And professional writers/medical staff have other modes of thinking.  It's seems inefficient, but it was acceptable to them.  

If only Ferris and Uri were there!  He could have written the equivalent of War and Peace!

I'm willing to concede the point - I'll admit it's easy for me to judge in hindsight.  In the grand scheme of my opinion of the film, this is a very minor.  And to OAD's point - sympathy is where I come from too.  The scene where the wife has to translate for the mistress (or was it ex wife/wife?  wasn't entirely clear) was pretty excruciating.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 01:52:58 PM
Good write-up ferris, even if I disagree completely. My main problem was the one thing you said the movie didn't do, it lost me the first time it broke from its narrative structure to fill in a plot point and then it became progressively worse as the movie would continually break from its narrative structure with no rhyme or reason beyond milking emotion out of the audience in overly manipulative ways. I can't recall, I have tried to forget the movie to be frank, but it was either the phone call from the dad or the shaving sequence with the dad that was the worst offender in this regard, existing only so that the audience can go "aw, isn't that sad" but not staying in step with the structure of the film.

Actually now that I think about it my biggest problem with the breaks was that the film ties the single perspective into the awakening of the main character. The more control he gets over his condition the more the camera opens up, but despite establishing this as a thematic structure the film breaks from it all the time in order to manipulate, like the lone shot of the wife at the train station taking place at a point when his world should still be closed off.

Either way, good write-up.

I admittedly forgot aobut that train station shot.  Yeah that one is a cheat.  In fact I was looking back at my review this morning and noticed the screenshot with the pool is a cheat as well.  ("Cheat" may be too strong a word - but I'm struggling to think of a more elegant and less divisive word for it at the moment!)

There are two main flashback scenes - one with the shaving and one with the car ride.  The latter is fine.  It did answer some questions.  The earlier one didn't pack much emotional punch for me, however I'd just come from a friend's house where my friend was decribing quite emotionally the difficulty of having to brush his mother's teeth for the first time.  It was really uncanny actually, and I stopped the movie and called my wife in to see it because of the coincidence.  

I meant to mention something about the dream sequences.  I thought these too were fine - and the imagery was cool in places (like the gracier crashing into the ocean) - you had to come up with some way to show how he was lost in his imagination.  I appreciated the way that was done.  Although watching people eat oysters is disgusting.

I'm a little more lukewarm on this film this morning after taking some time to seperate the story from the filmmaking.  But Bill, I'm struggling to think of better ways to tell the same story and still have it compelling enough to propell the narrative.  Despite any flaws I have this is a great story - and it certainly does it's job of introducing this conflict, perking my interest in the source material and most of all making me think a bit different about the huge differences between mental and physical handicaps
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 05:25:11 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #10

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I'm Not There
(2007, Todd Haynes)


“I accept chaos, I'm not sure whether it accepts me”

To me, this line, uttered by Ben Whishaw’s character sums up the core of what is at once awe-inspiring and completely frustrating about Todd Hayne’s 2007 “I’m Not There” – a glorified and slickly presented biopic highlighting the life and events of Bob Dylan.  

It’s a line actually attributed to the man, Bob Dylan, and underscores the main theme of this film –Dylan as a an artist whose complexity and social detachment makes him pretty difficult to nail down for a fortune cookie one-liner or the cover of a cereal box, but he’s surrounded by those who want to label and corral his personas as if to herd a field full of tomcats.  

Todd Haynes take a unique…no BRILLIANT method to investigate the many faces and personas of this classic folk singer, casting six different actors to portray different times of his life.  The technique is particularly effective at forcing the audience to see the constant conflicts between his own life and the life thrust upon him.  Hayne gives particular credit to his audience – expecting them to keep track of constantly intercutting representations of Dylan’s life, unexpected casting and portrayals, oblique imagery and lots of jump cuts between eras are characters – sometimes overlapping in a meta kinda way.  It has at once a Coen Brother’s feel and the mind of a Fellini film.  And for this I really appreciate being made to work to follow the narrative.  When you overlay the gorgeous and often overwhelmingly profound music, there is a quite a bit to keep track of.

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However like Dylan’s life portrayed in this film, this “chaos” line sounds deep and clever – until you start to deconstruct it and realize how empty it is...

There are strange areas where we are spoonfed – in some cases it’s almost head-slapping.  Case in point:  early on the younger Dylan, named Woodie Guthrie, carries a guitar with “This Machine Kills Fascists” scribbled on its case.  It’s a great device – especially if left subtle.  But it’s quickly followed by this exchange:

“You have a weapon in there?”

“No, well not in the traditional sense”

We didn’t need that.  

And for 20 minutes we’re presented with the entire conflict that arose from Dylan’s first foray into electric guitar and the backlash of fans and critics.  Rather than let us emphasize with Dylan’s plight for ourselves, we’re given the line “You just want me to say what you want me to say”.  Yeah you mentioned that.  And you will again like four more times.

Later we several scenes scattered around the film that are nice subtle overtures to Fellini’s 8 ½ - which I take as a nice symbol for the meta difficulties of art and celebrity.  But the symbolism gets beat over our head when we see Dylan floating tethered to string.

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But back to positives!  Because there are many!
I will say I particularly appreciated the conflict between Cate Blanchett’s Dylan and the reporter Keenan Jones (played by Bruce Greenwood).  In particular, there is an exchange in the back of a limo in which Dylan rebukes the line of questioning – it later comes to roost in a TV expose (much in keeping with real events in a 1963 Newsweek article) criticizing his disingenuousness and façade.    These exchanges open up a pretty unique theme – can you separate the message of an artist with the beliefs of the artist?  It the Cat Stevens problem: can you separate “Morning has Broken” from his spiritual choices years later?

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I often have this thought when you see a elected official or spiritual leader get in trouble because acts of their personal life conflict with their messages from the bully pulpit.  At that point do you really throw out the baby with the bath water?  Is the problem of abusive priests enough to disparage the entire religion?  Does a president’s one-off affair make him a good candidate for impeachment?
 
This film raises great questions about the cult of celebrity and to what extent an artist is expected to live up to his public persona.  It highlights the issue of the constant barrage of questions that are usually more about the reporter or fan than about this subject himself.  Questions weights around the ankles carried place to place.  Even a relatively harmless comment about Lee Harvey Oswald becomes a national stir.  (An aside you have to love John Lennon’s attitude about this in this song “God” – taking his critics head on for the flap about his “more popular than Jesus” comment years earlier)

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However, if I do have one problem with the film is, we are given no hooks into Dylan that make him a sympathetic figure.  His has risen on a wave of popularity and media attention that gave him a place of prominence in the culture of the 60s.  He has the largest voice of this generation, but when asked to take responsibility for his perceived abandonment of the cause and the folk music that so characterized it, Dylan’s response is one of reproach.  “You think you know who I am, but you don’t know”.  This have-it-both-ways attitude is a tough sell.  Even the most indie of films and artists are marketing in a gift box with a red bow – this is the dilemma of needing your work seen and appreciated by others but not wanting to get stuck in your little box.  

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However Todd Haynes does take this criticism head-on!  There’s this scene with Dylan and Allen Ginsberg at the foot of a huge crucifix when Dylan shouts at Jesus: "Why don't you do your early stuff?"
Man I’ve gone on so long and I didn’t even get into the music and performances.  Let me just say they are rich and magnificent as the reputation that proceeded it.  Yes Kate Blanchet was much deserving of the praise she received.

The music is well – fantastic of course.  But much more the production, arrangements and vocals where very nice – never overreaching, very respectful to the source material, and quite simply a pleasure to the ears.

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There is a lot to love here.  So I almost hate to levy the criticizisms I’ve raised here.  But in the end, this 2:15 movie could have packed a far better punch at perhaps 1:50.  In fact, this could have been all-time great.  And that’s what makes this frustrating.  I would have loved to see an edit where the music did most of the talking.  Let us soak in the magnificent cinematography by Edward Lachman and the enigma of three decades of Dylan’s evolving lyrics.


Verdict:
Had very high aspirations and accomplished a lot, but perhaps in the end promised a lot more than it could deliver on.  Great soundtrack!

Grade: B 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 06:21:35 PM
So taking Adam and Matty's lead, I'm awarding "GooseEgg" awards at the end of this part of my marathon

First Round GooseEgg awards

Best Actress:
Naomi Watts – Mulholland Drive
Cate Blanchette – I’m Not There
Ivana Baquero – Pan’s Labyrinth
Winner: Naomi Watts – Mulholland Drive

Best Supporting Actress
Clare-Hope Ashitey – Children of Men
Marie-Josée Croze – The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Julianne Moore – Children of Men
Winner: Marie-Josée Croze – The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

Best Actor:
Casey Affleck – Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Clive Owen – Children of Men
Richard Gere – I’m Not There
Justin Theroux  - Mulholland Drive
Winner: Casey Affleck – Assassination of Jesse James

Best Supporting Actor
Todd Louiso – High Fidelity
Sam Rockwell - Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Michael Cain – Children of Men
Winner: Todd Louiso – High Fidelity

Best Editing:
Children of Men
Spirited Away
United 93
Winner - Children of Men

Best Cinematography:
Emmanuel Lubezki - Children of Men
Roger Deakins - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Atsushi Okui - Spirited Away
Winner: Roger Deakins - The Assassination of Jesse James

Best Score
Joe Hisaishi  - Spirited Away
Nick Cave and Warren Ellis - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
John Powell – United 93
winner: Nick Cave and Warren Ellis - The Assassination of Jesse James

Best Soundtrack:
High Fidelity
Children of Men
Mulholland Drive
I’m Not There
Winner: I’m Not There

Best Screenplay
Spirited Away - Hayao Miyazaki
Children of Men - Alfonso Cuarón ,
David Lynch - Mulholland Drive
High Fidelity - D.V. DeVincentis, Steve Pink, John Cusack, Scott Rosenberg
Winner: High Fidelity - D.V. DeVincentis, et al

Best Scene
-  Train Robbery in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
- The Train Ride in Spirited Away
- Getting the Thorn Out in Spirited Away
- Jump-starting the car in Children of Men
- Everyone stops fighting and looks – Children of Men
- Nice and close, just like in the movies - Mulholland Drive
- Meeting the cowboy -  Mulholland Drive
- Getting the little black book  - Mulholland Drive
Winner: The Train Ride in Spirited Away

Best Director:
Alfonso Cuarón - Children of Men
Andrew Dominik - Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Hayao Miyazaki - Spirited Away
Paul Greengrass - United 93
Winner: Paul Greengrass - United 93

Best Film:
Alfonso Cuarón - Children of Men
Andrew Dominik - Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Hayao Miyazaki - Spirited Away
Paul Greengrass - United 93
Winner: Hayao Miyazaki - Spirited Away
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on December 12, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
WOO!

Some of those winnders made me very happy. Some of the nominations also made me very happy.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on December 12, 2009, 07:11:23 PM
These nominees, despite lacking Billy Ray, are very good, though it's odd that you consider Cate and Gere leads. I cannot help but be disappointed by the final result.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 08:07:56 PM
These nominees, despite lacking Billy Ray, are very good, though it's odd that you consider Cate and Gere leads. I cannot help but be disappointed by the final result.

I did consider that.  But in the end they're both leads in my book.  The Oscars considered Blanchette supporting, which is fine.  Not something I spend a lot of time thinking about

And Billy Ray was great in his brief role :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on December 12, 2009, 10:43:21 PM
Compliment Another Filmspotter...

This has been one of my favorite marathons to follow.  I love reading along with the discovery of the new.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 12, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
Compliment Another Filmspotter...

This has been one of my favorite marathons to follow.  I love reading along with the discovery of the new.

I really appreciate you saying this :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 13, 2009, 12:47:44 AM
Do you mean they couldn't they figure out another communication code - rather than going through the whole alphabet every single time? eg. Morse code? If this is what you meant, this REALLY bugged Uri, too. The inefficiency of the method, however lovely to listen to, bothered him.

Yeah, those doctors and nurses and folks-- I mean, what else were they doing?  They should have taken out a few days to figure out a really good system of communication, rather than just keeping the guy alive.  

Real stories are tough-- reality keeps getting in the way.  And it worked great in the movie.
steve, you seem pretty irritated with the suggestion that there could have been a better way? Uri, quite honestly, is a very compassionate , uncritical person (much more so than I am, in fact) - but he's also very practically minded and for him, watching them use the system they used was like watching a someone patiently emptying a plugged up bathtub with a spoon when he or she would just have to walk over to the next room to get a bucket. And for the record, with me, Uri loved the film. This point about communication was just one of the things that came up in our much larger discussion of the film after we saw it.

Sorry if I seemed irritated.  I wasn't.  The part about War and Peace was a total joke.  My failed attempt to make things happy.

The only part I disagreed with is that there easily could have been another way.  I know with my community, not only would we not have come up with another way, but if it were me in that situation (and I would certainly have tried to write a book about it, if someone had the patience to put up with me), I would prefer the alphabet recitation, because it suits my literary preferences.  I'm a snob.  I don't get codes.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 13, 2009, 12:54:38 AM
Compliment Another Filmspotter...

This has been one of my favorite marathons to follow.  I love reading along with the discovery of the new.

I totally agree.

I love your choices, although I think there's a bit too much love for Jesse James and not enough love for Cate Blanchette.  Can't disagree with your best picture winner, though!

What a great marathon!  And great discussions!  And great reviews!  Can't wait for the next ten!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: saltine on December 13, 2009, 01:11:02 AM
The alphabet Bauby used was re-arranged according to the letter's frequency of use.  Also the transcriber anticipated the word before it was completely spelled out, said it, got confirmation, then continued.  Given the predictability of word spellings and syntax, this system doesn't seem so inefficient to me.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on December 13, 2009, 01:13:37 AM
Yep, I've really enjoyed this marathon as well. I've kinda skipped over the discussions on the ones I haven't seen yet, but I'll be back to catch up once I have.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: Ten Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 13, 2009, 03:35:01 PM
Compliment Another Filmspotter...

This has been one of my favorite marathons to follow.  I love reading along with the discovery of the new.

I totally agree.

I love your choices, although I think there's a bit too much love for Jesse James and not enough love for Cate Blanchette.  Can't disagree with your best picture winner, though!

What a great marathon!  And great discussions!  And great reviews!  Can't wait for the next ten!

Awww....thanks Steve and everone else for all the kind and motivating words
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 13, 2009, 04:13:49 PM
I've updated the first page of this thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg351936#msg351936) to reflect these next 10 movies in the marathon

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I've also posted links to the individual reviews and the awards just for myself to help to keep track.


Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 18, 2009, 12:35:48 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #11

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Joyeux Noël
(2005, Christian Carion)

(again, I managed to delete my original review so I'll quickly sum up what I posted earlier)


This is a "very nice film".  Not extraordinary in any particular area, but very good in most.  The story itself is worth the price of admission - the events of a Christmas Eve in 1914 on the Western Front in WWI. I can see this becoming a fixture of of our holiday movie viewing tradition for years to come.  It sets a great tone for the Christmas season.  Some may have some hesitations about this being an overly evangelical film - I would say it is more that than It's a Wonderful Life.

As you can see there is some very nice imagery here.  For a 2005 film is really has the look and feel of one much older (like early 80's).  If this is what they were going for, than it certainly succeeded!

The female lead in this film you'll recognize as the movie star from Inglourious Basterds

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Verdict:
The story is incredibly moving.  The filmmaking is only above average.  Neverthess will be required holiday viewing from now on.

Grade: B 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on December 18, 2009, 04:02:13 PM
Has anyone seen both Joyeaux Noël and A Midnight Clear?  Are they very similiar or not at all?  I've only seen the Ethan Hawke one because Ethan Hawke is awesome (quiet, worm!).

Anyway, ferris, I think you've sold me on renting Joyeaux Noël this week, assuming I can get it free at Blockbuster when I rent some Filmspot film (Treeless Mountain?).

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on December 18, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
Has anyone seen both Joyeaux Noël and A Midnight Clear?  Are they very similiar or not at all?  I've only seen the Ethan Hawke one because Ethan Hawke is awesome (quiet, worm!).
I've seen both.  Not similar at all.  I had the same thought going into Joyeaux Noël.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 18, 2009, 05:14:50 PM
Has anyone seen both Joyeaux Noël and A Midnight Clear?  Are they very similiar or not at all?  I've only seen the Ethan Hawke one because Ethan Hawke is awesome (quiet, worm!).
I've seen both.  Not similar at all.  I had the same thought going into Joyeaux Noël.

Is your review up here somewhere?  I'm really curious about other people's thoughts.  For me it's the type of film that makes it a bit hard to make a critical analysis of the filmmaking apart from the story.  I was trying to put a modern context to this to help me appreciate it's significance....
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 1SO on December 18, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
I rented Joyeaux Noël based on stevekimes amazing write-up.

I didn't write a review because I was unmoved by the film and felt oddly disconnected throughout.  Sometimes I don't like to share opinions I know are unpopular, especially when I'm not prepared to defend them.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on December 18, 2009, 06:13:35 PM
I'm really curious about other people's thoughts.  For me it's the type of film that makes it a bit hard to make a critical analysis of the filmmaking apart from the story.  I was trying to put a modern context to this to help me appreciate it's significance....
I've seen it. I agree that it is a little difficult to analyze because it's tricky to separate the power of the story of the real event from the filmmaking. I think overall I liked it less than I hoped I would - I thought the filmmaking was fairly unremarkable, and while the performances were solid, none really stood out as all that special. I did also think the film felt a bit long - I know that's an annoying criticism, and I'd have to watch it again to say more and justify my feeling, but I do remember thinking, "I wish they'd get to what I really want to see - the event itself." Still, that overall story has a special kind of power and I didn't think that anything in the film necessarily detracted from that power. The story wasn't sentimentalized as it could easily have been; I was genuinely moved by it, and like you, ferris, I'd like to watch it with my kids when they're old enough.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 18, 2009, 06:34:46 PM
I rented Joyeaux Noël based on stevekimes amazing write-up.

I didn't write a review because I was unmoved by the film and felt oddly disconnected throughout.  Sometimes I don't like to share opinions I know are unpopular, especially when I'm not prepared to defend them.

That's ok!  Thanks for sharing.  And I can see that.  I had that issue with Brick earlier this month.  Not sure what it was I didn't like - but it just didn't hit me like it seemingly did everyone else.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 18, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
Sorry 1SO-- didn't mean to mislead you into watching a film that in my personal opinion is one of the best films I've ever watched and am recommending it to everyone I know. 

I'm glad you liked it, ferris, and I certainly see how it could be a great Christmas tradition.  Good review.

I didn't find the film making distracting, but I can see why others might think so.  Perhaps it's not a perfect movie, but it stirred me to such a degree that I overlook all the missteps.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 22, 2009, 08:12:13 PM
Once the kids are old enough to follow along quickly enough with subtitles, see a man kiss his dead brother on the lips, and have their first parent-sanctioned boob sighting , they will certainly be included in the tradition!


One requirement down, at least according to the city of Portland:
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/12/21/ready-or-not-stripper-mobile-is-coming-to-portland (http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2009/12/21/ready-or-not-stripper-mobile-is-coming-to-portland)


All you have to do is take them downtown on January 10 or so, and that one issue will be solved!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 22, 2009, 08:35:06 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #12

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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
(2004, Michel Gondry)


Well, technically speaking, it’s brain damage, but it's on a par with a night of heavy drinking. Nothing you'll miss…

Film lovers have come to count on brands to deliver predictable quality.  For the Coen Brand, it’s a universe of fringe characters with overreaching motives.  The Tarantino brand, its elegant tension-building dialog punctuated by black-comic violence.  The Herzog brand – a single-minded protagonist collapsing under the weight of a mother nature that pays him no mind.  

In this movie we have two great “brands” blended together to make a film only these two can make.  The Kaufman trademark of personality arcs subterfuged under some conceit of time and space, and the Michel Gondry heraldry of dark imagery and dreamlike sensibility.  It was a heroic effort to pull this script off the page into a consumable form.  Gondry made the terribly complex look simple on the screen – resulting, in my mind, in one the most digestible of Kaufman’s scripts.  It’s a good marriage.  Gondry has shown a keen awareness of how which cord of an audience’s psyche will be plucked upon presentation of new material – the order and sequencing invoking the perfect connotation, and the ability of a singular image to replace three pages of dialog.  Meanwhile Kaufman writes audience agnostic – whether as a result of the overwhelming prospect of analyzing the endless permutations of how an “average moviegoer” will react – or out of a self-imposed optimism that audiences are smarter than the Hollywood suits (and his own director!) gives them credit for.

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Dissecting a Scene:  “Creating the Map”
(The exercise here is not to highlight the “great scene” – rather one that gives me an opportunity to speak intelligently about the nuance that elevates good material to great material. )  
The scene is Joel’s 2nd trip to the Lacuna company.  First, let’s consider Kaufman’s choice to make the place kinda a low-rent clinic.  We’ve seen this kinda thing done 100’s of times as either a gorgeous state of the art facility (think – Total Recall) or like a back alley operation (the new eyes in Minority Report, for instance) .  So what does this choice tell us?  The Tom Wilkinson character, an unarguable genius, has only enough percentage of his brain left at the end of a day to consider such trivialities as moving to a bigger place, perhaps hiring some more qualified and responsible staff, and even reconsidering the choice to supply pennysaver coupons that expire just before Valentine’s day – their busiest day of the year.  

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At one point in the background Mary responds to a caller “no, I’m sorry you can’t have the procedure done three times in one day”.   That line for me is the heart of the film.  More on this later (under “Characters”)

In this scene a great deal of amount of exposition is necessary: how does this work?  What’s the science?  What is the patient’s experience?  How does a patient even approach having faith in such a process that is self-admitted “Brain damage”.  

Joel comments “this doesn’t exist”

The beauty and simplicity of Kaufman dialog – not finding the perfect words, but freely associating the first words that come to his characters’ heads.  The reaction from the Doctor, immediate “it does”, but punctuated perfectly by Mary (Kirten Dunst) who had inexplicably hung around the room for a second.  It’s that second “it does” that makes the scene work and the technology believable.

Fast forward.  At once Joel is at home having the process started, and in his own head recalling the visit to the office.  “I’m already inside my own head”.   At this point Gondry deftly conveys both the out-of-body duplicitous experience, and a dreamlike – creepy quality by managing to still keep the audience in the picture (Lynch could take a lesson).   The pile of wires on the floor from Joel’s head to the computer and great wink at the audience as if to say, “ya’ know we’re not going to bother trying rationalize the science here” Good choice – attempts to explain it would be distracting and grounded it yet more things that would need to be explained!  We have to just believe it works

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The Characters
I saw this went the DVD first came out years ago.  We started it at around 11:00PM after my wife and I had a decent fight.  I was already pissed off, the last thing I needed was ANOTHER impulsive free spirit with an asterisk that read “you know me, I’m impulsive” floating over her head like a get out of jail card.  I think I hated Kate Winslett’s character from the second I saw that blue hair.  I think we got about 45 minutes in and fell asleep with little interest to pick things back up the next time.

This time, I went in prepared to be bugged by Clementine.  It was a great surprise by the end of this, to see my wife and I in that couple – perfect for each other but destined to forever live in a cycle of redemption and disappointment.  Clementine is the extreme of the qualities  Joel despises but can’t help to be drawn to.  As an audience member, Kate Winslett became that for me.  
I would like to spotlight Kirsten Dunst’s character, Mary.  Comic book fans may let out a collective sign in me saying this, but Dunst is what bugged me the most about the Spiderman franchise.  But HERE she is a revelation, and perhaps the heart of the picture: smart, vunerable, making unwise choices, but turning the tables on everyone in the end.  

The Bird in the Wagon:

During the commentary, Kaufman and Gondry briefly referred to the difficulty they had with the studio to keep the bird in the wagon scene in.  I find it pretty ironic with all the violence: torture, rape, global catastrophes – hell Lars von Trier’s entire cannon – that THIS is the scene that gives’ exec heartburn.  Oh how progressive a society we have become.

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Heart vs Mind

Like Herzog, I suppose I like to see how far my heroes will go before his circumstance digest him.  So I will always consider Synecdoche, NY Kaufman’s magnum opus.  Eternal Sunshine is more head than heart  - despite how well we get to know the characters we are still a arms length from their emotional core.  The specific hangup for me with respect to this is – with ALL the procedures done Lacuna, what was it about Joel that made him able to run away from the process?  How are we to believe his connection to Clementine was that much greater than the old woman erasing a lifetime with her husband?  Was it his strength of mind?  That question is left unanswered – which made me just a bit unsatisfied.  

Conclusion
Great film – great ideas about relationships and human’s tendency to gravitate towards the same mistakes.  I might suggest this be a required film for those marriage classes people take.  That last scene in the hallway says it all.    Minor hang ups keep this from entering my top 100, but it is outside the window making faces at the moment, so we’ll see.


Verdict:
Jonze captured wonderfully on film one of the most complex screensplays ever in a digestable and thoroughly satisfying way.

Grade: A 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 22, 2009, 08:49:06 PM
It's been a while since I watched this, but I don't believe I recall reading the ending moments as Joel getting away. He tries, probably much like many other patients, but he still fails and most of his memory is erased. However his efforts to stop the process create the science fiction standard of the procedure having worked but with unexpected side effects. He doesn't remember Clementine, but he knows her echo, he doesn't know why, but he knows that he is drawn to this woman and that he should be. Then if I recall correctly he does piece it all together through evidence he finds, and I don't believe this would be him running away or beating the procedure but basic human memory and nature trumping science. I essence this carries home the theme of love and relationships not being about what's in your head but what's in your heat and what we feel, and it also is a sort of last minute volley towards sci-fi, where humans are always shown trumping science in one way or another.

Either way, great write-up, and I need to see this again soon, it currently resides in my top 5-6 of all-time.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on December 22, 2009, 09:41:09 PM
Ferris, you are great.  Your write up did what a good write up does-- take a movie I love and make me love it more.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: StarCarly on December 22, 2009, 10:52:55 PM

The Characters
I saw this went the DVD first came out years ago.  We started it at around 11:00PM after my wife and I had a decent fight.  I was already pissed off, the last thing I needed was ANOTHER impulsive free spirit with an asterisk that read “you know me, I’m impulsive” floating over her head like a get out of jail card.  I think I hated Kate Winslett’s character from the second I saw that blue hair.  I think we got about 45 minutes in and fell asleep with little interest to pick things back up the next time.

This time, I went in prepared to be bugged by Clementine.  It was a great surprise by the end of this, to see my wife and I in that couple – perfect for each other but destined to forever live in a cycle of redemption and disappointment.  Clementine is the extreme of the qualities  Joel despises but can’t help to be drawn to.  As an audience member, Kate Winslett became that for me.  
I would like to spotlight Kirsten Dunst’s character, Mary.  Comic book fans may let out a collective sign in me saying this, but Dunst is what bugged me the most about the Spiderman franchise.  But HERE she is a revelation, and perhaps the heart of the picture: smart, vunerable, making unwise choices, but turning the tables on everyone in the end.  


Yes to all of this. Clem really bugs me for about half the movie. Also, I very rarely find Dunst even tolerable, but I was blown away by her in this movie. What a character.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 22, 2009, 11:54:31 PM
Ferris, you are great.  Your write up did what a good write up does-- take a movie I love and make me love it more.  Thanks.

awwww....Thanks.  Nice comment. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 30, 2009, 05:36:01 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #13

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Andy Goldsworthy: Rivers and Tides
(2004, Thomas Riedelsheimer)

Total control can be the death of work!…

Well this was pretty cool.  Not what I expected at all.  I was thinking this was a documentary on art FOUND IN nature, not art MADE OF nature.  The title had me pining for some "power of water" nature cinematography.  This early aeriel shot had me pretty excited:

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But it was more a slow, quiet look at a this dude Goldsworthy and these little artsy things he makes of things he finds in nature.  I'm a nature lover.  I've shared my outdoor adventures here a number of times.  I especially love waterfalls, and drainage in particular - including the power of tides.  So it me about 10-15 minutes to reorient myself to the subject matter in this - and I have to admit being pretty disappointed.  So I paused.  Shook my head.  And started over.  Ok here we go.

The film is about Andy Goldsworthy, an artist who connect/communes with nature by spending countless hours creating "art" out of a natural habitat using elements from that habitat.  There are some pretty cool results:

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What was kinda amazing about this was the time commitment put into each project and the patience and care Goldsworthy had to put into each one - fighting the elements and timing of nature along the way.

But I have to admit, as the film went on stuff like this bugged me:

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I'll admit up front I'm a bit over-sensitive.  I do trail and beach maintenance.  A lot of what we do is go out to outdoor destinations and remove the impact of humans there.  Second to litter, this is what we are combatting the most:

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Now it's not really a big deal.  It doesn't really bother me when I find this stuff out there - I mean people love building this stuff and every time we go back there are more.  It's fun for them - It's a cool excuse to hang out in a scenic location for awhile and it's fairly easy to clean up.  Plus -there is a historical meaning to this things.  Rock cairns marked trails for years all over the world.  "Indian Pits" were build by tribal peoples on their Vision Quest sites.  But we're at an age where we recognize the difference between petroglyphs and graffiti.   Plus, if we weren't out there all the time cleaning up it would get out of control.

So when we have a self-proclaimed nature lover, not only creating this stuff, photographing it, PUBLISHING IT and not making an effort to clean up after himself - I have to admit I don't get it.   There is an underlying sentiment that comes out of this that Goldsworthy is improving on nature.  

But - hey it's a reasonably minimal natural distrurbance in a relatively isolated location.  His art helps display the dramatic tides in the region.  That's cool.  Until it appears not only is this not an isolated project, he leaves them up all over the place!  

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But really this didn't bug me that much either.  It's fine really.  Not a terribly big impact.  And a few of those are on the grounds of his own property.

...until after I saw this...

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...stretching a 1/4 mile long!   An amazing feat - no doubt - but it's creation seems so hypocritical to it's cause.  This from the Storm King website: "works draw attention to the plight of sites around the world that suffer from human encroachment and industrial pollution".  So they are moving 17,000 square feet of nature to make a grand point about human encroachment on nature.  The environmentalist liberal stick-in-the-mud in me and the conservative art-cynic grant-hater in me are both are both waggling our fingers at the filmmakers for bragging about this.  But hey.  Less impact than building a museum and a parking lot, so...what can I say?

Passing thought why do we need a guy to crush iron rich stone to make red water when THIS already exists in a natural state?

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(from our Yellowstone trip last summer)

Plus, I've seen much cooler ice sculptures:  :P
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Summary
So.... mixed emotions on this.  So cool stuff here.  It was fun getting to know the guy and having some immersion in the Scotish landscape for awhile.  We spent some nice time with the sheep and on the Canadian shoreline, which I loved.  I Wish I had gone in with different expectations - I might have appreciated it more.  


BTW: Here's a shot of me and the kids from last summer at Indian Beach, OR "getting to know the sand"  :D
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we cleaned up after :)


Verdict:
A nice curiousity, but not much more than that

Grade: C+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: philip918 on December 30, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
Really great points, Ferris.  I've been meaning to watch this for quite some time and your review will certainly add another angle to contemplate while watching.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Colleen on December 30, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
Great write up!  I've seen bits and pieces of this movie but really have wanted to sit down and watch the whole thing.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on December 31, 2009, 04:52:01 PM
Great write up!  I've seen bits and pieces of this movie but really have wanted to sit down and watch the whole thing.

Thanks Colleen.  Has this been on television?  (HBO or something?) How have you caught bits and pieces of it?  I think Youtube has this actually come to think of it
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 02, 2010, 06:44:49 PM
Nice write up ferris. I don't remember anything that was said during the documentary when I watched it, but even if it were nothing more than showing Goldsworthy's work it would still be worth watching.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 02, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
Nice write up ferris. I don't remember anything that was said during the documentary when I watched it, but even if it were nothing more than showing Goldsworthy's work it would still be worth watching.

I agree.  It's worth watching!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Colleen on January 02, 2010, 08:50:37 PM
Great write up!  I've seen bits and pieces of this movie but really have wanted to sit down and watch the whole thing.

Thanks Colleen.  Has this been on television?  (HBO or something?) How have you caught bits and pieces of it?  I think Youtube has this actually come to think of it

Actually now that I think about it, I think I saw clips from YouTube posted here somewhere!  But it is streaming on Netflix and in my queue there.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on January 03, 2010, 07:04:37 AM
Nicely done Ferris, this film is now on my radar.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 04, 2010, 12:05:00 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #14

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Cidade de Deus (City of God)
(2003, Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund)

Wow, some powerful stuff here.  Y'all don't want me to sleep well at night do you?  Between this, Children of Men and United 93!  

It doesn’t take long to digest the irony of the title of this film --  refering to the government housing and sounding slums outside of Rio de Janeiro (Brazil).  Here society is so overtaken by drugs and violence that prepubescent children take up sides in territorial gang disputes and kindergarten-aged kids imagine themselves the next drug lord.   I was amazed to read later that City of God is based on actual events in that area from 1960s and 1970s.  

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The directors brought this to life with a frenzied, gritty look.  For instance the film opens with a scene of chickens being cleaned for a meal - the use of fast cuts and hand-held camera sequences throw you immediately into the high intensity of this world.  I can't say I was let out once.

I have to say - this film certainly did it's job of immersing you in this culture - perhaps unmericilessly so.  This, Munich, and Slumdog Millionaire would make for a interesting triple bill for "cultured westerner" griping about his iPhone's download speed.

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The film is narrated by a character named Rocket (Alexandre Rodrigues), a would-be photographer who manages for a while to avoid participation in the violence that surrounds him, despite being a degree of separation from Li'l Zé's – the young gang lord.  Rocket’s narration anchors the story and provides a bit of levity and perspective in places that is a nice break for what otherwise is very difficult material to sit through.  

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he violence in the film is pretty shocking at times – mostly because of the involvement of young children.  I caught myself rooting for violence against a six year old at one point – I shook my head and realized how deep the tragedy is in this part of the world on how I myself had got caught up in it.

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It was pretty interesting to read that most of the actors here were people taken right from these same villages - having no background at all in front of a camera.  You wouldn't know it from the performances.  They were amazing across the board.  I think in particular the character of Li'l Zé' (played by Douglas Silva) was played so unflinchingly unsympathetic but not at all one-dimensional.  

The message here is one also so well told in Munich - that, in any culture where violence begets violence, only the names change. When one member is killed, another will rise in his place. The difference here is how young they get started.  

Tough watch, but I’m so glad I watched it.  Thanks for this recommendation.  

So the interest of this marathon I’m doing is to help me form a legitimate top 50 for the decade.  I can certainly see this in the running.


Verdict:
Difficult material well told and well grounded.  High respect, but I have little interest in rewatching!

Grade: B+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on January 04, 2010, 12:51:58 AM
What's this? Junior loves a movie that is very pretty cinematographically and is focused on a photographer? How absurd.

But seriously, I'm glad you liked it. It's a favorite of mine. And yes, Munich and, to a lesser extent, Slumdog Millionare are good movies. But I have an iPod Touch, not an iPhone. Ha!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on January 04, 2010, 01:49:02 AM
It gets better (and easier to watch if that is a qualm) with repeat viewings. Very nice collection of screenshots. Fabulous film.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on January 04, 2010, 06:58:26 AM
I don't know about the comparison to Munich, but I will wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Cidade de Deus. I love that movie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: chardy999 on January 04, 2010, 08:14:46 AM
I don't know about the comparison to Munich, but I will wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Cidade de Deus. I love that movie.

Then how come I do not see it in your Top 100?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 04, 2010, 08:47:22 AM
What's this? Junior loves a movie that is very pretty cinematographically and is focused on a photographer? How absurd.

But seriously, I'm glad you liked it. It's a favorite of mine. And yes, Munich and, to a lesser extent, Slumdog Millionare are good movies. But I have an iPod Touch, not an iPhone. Ha!

I like when people read the whole review :)


I don't know about the comparison to Munich, but I will wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Cidade de Deus. I love that movie.

Both seem to illustrate pretty well the myopia of thinking "if we just knock off this one guy..." pretty well.  BTW Bin Laden is still at large


Quote from: chardy999
Very nice collection of screenshots

Thanks!  I work very hard at finding scenes that invoke certain parts of a film without giving away anything in terms of spoilers
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on January 04, 2010, 09:40:27 AM
I don't know about the comparison to Munich, but I will wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Cidade de Deus. I love that movie.

Both seem to illustrate pretty well the myopia of thinking "if we just knock off this one guy..." pretty well.  BTW Bin Laden is still at large

Hmm..I guess so. It's just they seem so stylistically different that it's hard to compare the two. Also, Munich, not to say it isnst good(I really liked it), but it's reality is more cut and dry then City of God's. which is just this mess of morality's all thrown into one.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on January 04, 2010, 12:01:12 PM
Excellent review, Ferris.  I don't exactly "love" this movie, but it is certainly one of the best of the last decade.  And you don't have to look, I do have it on my top 100.

The main thing I got out of the movie wasn't so much the ability to replace one leader for another (I think the Wire did that more clearly), but the participation of children in the cycle of violence.  Most of the participants of wars in Africa are teenagers.  And the  fact that all the violent acts are done by children I just couldn't shake.  It felt like a slap in the face each time I saw a child firing a gun. 

But I also loved the human element of the story.  It isn't just about child gangs, but about Rocket trying to find love and it is also a "coming of age" story in a radical circumstance, like a really intense Stand By Me.
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Post by: ferris on January 04, 2010, 12:06:21 PM
Excellent review, Ferris.  I don't exactly "love" this movie, but it is certainly one of the best of the last decade.  And you don't have to look, I do have it on my top 100.

The main thing I got out of the movie wasn't so much the ability to replace one leader for another (I think the Wire did that more clearly), but the participation of children in the cycle of violence.  Most of the participants of wars in Africa are teenagers.  And the  fact that all the violent acts are done by children I just couldn't shake.  It felt like a slap in the face each time I saw a child firing a gun. 

But I also loved the human element of the story.  It isn't just about child gangs, but about Rocket trying to find love and it is also a "coming of age" story in a radical circumstance, like a really intense Stand By Me.


Good points - particularly on the children.  The one scene where he shot the kids in the foot was especially troubling when you see the one kid break down and cry.

And yeah, it was a really good choice to have the story told through Rocket - it would be that much harder for an audience to digest this without somelike like him to relate to.

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Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2010, 12:36:18 PM
This is possibly one of the most thorough discussions I've read on the film's content.  For most of its initial release people couldn't stop talking about the intense visual style and directorial muscle, which is considerable.
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Post by: Verite on January 04, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
Cidade de Deus (City of God)

The tv series City of Men is recommended if you liked City of God.  The film City of Men wraps up the tv series.
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Post by: oldkid on January 04, 2010, 01:08:01 PM

The tv series City of Men is recommended if you liked City of God.  The film City of Men wraps up the tv series.

Really?  I thought that I would be disappointed in it after the intensity of the movie.
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Post by: 1SO on January 04, 2010, 01:15:25 PM

The tv series City of Men is recommended if you liked City of God.  The film City of Men wraps up the tv series.

Really?  I thought that I would be disappointed in it after the intensity of the movie.
I was.  Mostly bored.  Like a sequel done by less talented artists.
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Post by: Verite on January 04, 2010, 01:22:37 PM

The tv series City of Men is recommended if you liked City of God.  The film City of Men wraps up the tv series.

Really?  I thought that I would be disappointed in it after the intensity of the movie.

It's not anywhere near as great as City of God.  But it is my opinion that the tv series is worth watching.
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Post by: ferris on January 05, 2010, 10:00:36 AM
...For most of its initial release people couldn't stop talking about the intense visual style and directorial muscle, which is considerable...

It's something so effective that I didn't realize the impact it was having on me until I went through it a second time.  That is saying something.  I've found myself overly aware of the filmmaking and choices in films these last few years.  Only this, United 93 and Avatar were so immersive that I totally forgot about it.   Just rewatching the frantic opening really sets one's mind in a really uneven place - in particular with that dark rooster symbolism.
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Post by: 1SO on January 05, 2010, 10:19:56 AM
I wonder if that's why this and United 93 are among my Top 5 for the decade.
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Post by: ferris on January 13, 2010, 12:07:05 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #15

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Yi YI: A One and a Two
(2000, Edward Yang)

"Why are we afraid of a first time? Every day of life is a first time"

Yi Yi is a film about three generations of a Tawainese family in over the course of about a month or so in Taipei.   Story threads intertwine between three different perspectives: a middle-aged father, his eight year old son, and his teenage daughter. The film gives lots of time to the characters that surround their lives, deftly changing perspectives and settings.  This three-hour epic (which must contain hundreds of scenes!) bookended by a wedding and a funeral.

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It helps in watching this film to know a bit about the "New Taiwanese" cinema and the styles and themes that pervasive during this brief period - including long takes, wide shots and a focus on what distiguishes Taiwan from China - a country who's shadow of history and global influence is ever present.  Unlike similar evolutions in the US and France, this period did not gravitate towards youth-in-revolt stories - quite the opposite!  Instead it looked back in homage to a Taiwain from the pre-Republic of China era.

It's easy to see right away the attention Yang places on the look of the film and his efforts to characterize Taipai as a city of the newest and oldest generation.  There is beautiful framed shot after beautiful framed shot.  The cinematography is deliberate and the effort pays off on the screen.  What's more the long shots give a bit of an air of tension that by 2 hours in is just palpable.

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But the genius of this film is its characters.  It is a portrait-of-life piece unlike any I have seen before.  In my filmgoing experience I'm treated to lots of ensemble pieces where characters' stories interweave and then converge in a final climatic event.  That story arc can be pretty effective - giving the audience a cross sectional fly-on-the-wall look at characters in apogee at their best and worst.

Here it's a much different take.  We get to spend more time getting to know our characters in their daily life: how small decisions are made, how subconscious fears can inhibit them, and how the drain of a life on cruise control cannot be solved with a simple story arc.

It's a bit unnerving from my Western sensibility to sit and wait for the big 'other shoe drops' moment.  Waiting for it almost causes one to miss the little details the film wants to focus.  And it's not like the director doesn't know he's doing this!  There's a scene with a swimming pool, for instance, where you know the director is just toying with audience expectations.

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One conceit of the director is these various shots using reflection and mirror images.  I found them extremely effective.  

The film is like going through a scrapbook, looking at photos and getting to see a story play out for each photo.  In the way a reality show let's us spy on characters, this film let's us watch them make good and bad decisions, find the perfect words or completely blow it, and just try to navigate through a life filled with people with the same imperfections he has.

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I loved the boy in this film and getting a chance to follow him around.  In most films children are either a plot device used to setup an emotional climax in the film, to punctuate a theme, or is simply used as comic relief in the film.  Here, the 8 year old get's his own story.  Like most 8 years olds the story of his day is often random and meandering.   Like a parent does with a child it's easy for an audience to give too much meaning to things like bringing a funnel into a bathtub.  He's a kid.  It's what kids do.  Because of this, when the child gets his moment towards the end of the film - it is earned.

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My favorite scenes were with NJ and Ota.  I loved the honesty of the relationship these two struck up - even through knowing full well how much deceit was still lurking underneathe.  Didn't you just want these two to somehow form their own company in the end?  But like in life - there are so many poignient moments that in the end result in a dead end but you get to carry those moments around with you in the sum of your parts.  The older you get the more brushes with others become all too brief - but the lessons can last a lifetime.  

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There is a bit of a nihilist thread to this film - the same choices will be made even they are postponed, pepole read into the effectiveness of supersticions and religion but the results are often ambiguious, and the fact that no matter how much meaning goes into a situation there is an outside power forcing the proceedings and we are powerless against them.  However, the film very much argues that we are still not passive on this journey.  These moments are to be learned from and treasured to the last breath.  Like somehow we can plug into that force even though we may be powerless to help guide it.

I did like this film alot.  At the end of the first viewing and had a lot of questions.  It was an effort to get through at times.  But after all when said-and-done I found I missed these characters- perhaps more so than any set of characters from the 160 or so I've seen in the past year.  So high praise.  One of the best of the marathon so far.


Verdict:
Very ambitious in attention to story and characters.  Beautiful to look at.  Tender and moving in a way that's hard to wittle down to a sentence or two. 

Grade: A 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on January 13, 2010, 12:30:13 PM
As usual, excellent review, ferris.  I found the film less poignant, but I know that part of it was me feeling miserable on the day I watched it.  You have encouraged me to revisit it.  Eventually.

I 100% agree with you about the boy in the film.  I really appreciated his story arc.
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Post by: Melvil on January 13, 2010, 12:37:03 PM
Awesome review, ferris! Totally makes me want to revisit it as well. I don't remember it in detail, but everything you said reminded me of what I loved in it.
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Post by: ferris on January 13, 2010, 12:37:28 PM
As usual, excellent review, ferris.  I found the film less poignant, but I know that part of it was me feeling miserable on the day I watched it.  You have encouraged me to revisit it.  Eventually.

I 100% agree with you about the boy in the film.  I really appreciated his story arc.

Thanks Steve.  I failed to mention in my review, the 20 minutes in I was so disoriented as to who was who that I started it over.  That time investment really paid off.  The film certainly doesn't spoonfeed.  It is an effort.  I can image if I wasn't in the right mood I would lose interest in it fairly quickly.  I think it's a movie that really can reward repeat viewings.  That said, I'm struggling with thoughts of did it really need all three hours?

Awesome review, ferris! Totally makes me want to revisit it as well. I don't remember it in detail, but everything you said reminded me of what I loved in it.

Thanks!  Too bad it's not the kind of thing that's just gonna show up on HBO late one night.  It strikes me like something like Shawshank or Field of Dreams where it would be easy to get hooked while coming across it while flipping channels
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Post by: oldkid on January 13, 2010, 12:40:56 PM
As usual, excellent review, ferris.  I found the film less poignant, but I know that part of it was me feeling miserable on the day I watched it.  You have encouraged me to revisit it.  Eventually.

I 100% agree with you about the boy in the film.  I really appreciated his story arc.

Thanks Steve.  I failed to mention in my review, the 20 minutes in I was so disoriented as to who was who that I started it over.  That time investment really paid off.  The film certainly doesn't spoonfeed.  It is an effort.  I can image if I wasn't in the right mood I would lose interest in it fairly quickly.  I think it's a movie that really can reward repeat viewings.  That said, I'm struggling with thoughts of did it really need all three hours?

That last statement is exactly what I felt.  If it had been more concise, I think I would have appreciated it more.  Perhaps the director was so caught up with the beauty and cleverness of the cinematography, that he failed to carry some of us with him in his vision?  Although you seemed to really appreciate it, nevertheless.
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Post by: ferris on January 13, 2010, 12:43:05 PM
As usual, excellent review, ferris.  I found the film less poignant, but I know that part of it was me feeling miserable on the day I watched it.  You have encouraged me to revisit it.  Eventually.

I 100% agree with you about the boy in the film.  I really appreciated his story arc.

Thanks Steve.  I failed to mention in my review, the 20 minutes in I was so disoriented as to who was who that I started it over.  That time investment really paid off.  The film certainly doesn't spoonfeed.  It is an effort.  I can image if I wasn't in the right mood I would lose interest in it fairly quickly.  I think it's a movie that really can reward repeat viewings.  That said, I'm struggling with thoughts of did it really need all three hours?

That last statement is exactly what I felt.  If it had been more concise, I think I would have appreciated it more.  Perhaps the director was so caught up with the beauty and cleverness of the cinematography, that he failed to carry some of us with him in his vision?  Although you seemed to really appreciate it, nevertheless.

I did.  The reason I struggle with making it shorter is it kinda undercuts the themes of meaning in trivial events and people in our lives.  It's a risky directorial choice - and at least to my filmography thus far - a rare one.  I appreciate it for that.
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Post by: Melvil on January 13, 2010, 12:44:19 PM
That said, I'm struggling with thoughts of did it really need all three hours?

Maybe, maybe not. I'm of the opinion that a movie like this, where it uses its time rather subtly to allow you to learn about and connect with the characters, comes out better for the length with which you spend with them. The "story" certainly could have been told in less time, but there's all those great little moments that wouldn't have all made the cut. I think what it comes down to, is how effectively is that time used. From my memory of Yi yi, it didn't drag on or feel like filler to flesh out the runtime.
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Post by: oldkid on January 13, 2010, 12:48:51 PM
That said, I'm struggling with thoughts of did it really need all three hours?

Maybe, maybe not. I'm of the opinion that a movie like this, where it uses its time rather subtly to allow you to learn about and connect with the characters, comes out better for the length with which you spend with them. The "story" certainly could have been told in less time, but there's all those great little moments that wouldn't have all made the cut. I think what it comes down to, is how effectively is that time used. From my memory of Yi yi, it didn't drag on or feel like filler to flesh out the runtime.

And I have to admit, I didn't feel that anything there was "filler".  Yes, I did feel it drag on and on.  But if the director had asked me, "So what would you take out?"  I don't think I could point at something and say-- "Get rid of that."  Everything had purpose.
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Post by: pixote on January 13, 2010, 01:49:01 PM
I thought it was a little too short.

pixote
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Post by: roujin on January 13, 2010, 03:24:45 PM
Indeed.
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Post by: mañana on January 14, 2010, 02:45:19 PM
You two are so cute.
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Post by: pixote on January 14, 2010, 02:55:02 PM
You two are so cute.

I'm a fox, it's true.

pixote
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Post by: Holly Harry on January 14, 2010, 04:14:57 PM
So glad you enjoyed it, Ferris.
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Post by: ferris on January 18, 2010, 12:38:59 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #16

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The Science of Sleep
(2006, Michel Gondry)

"Randomness is very difficult to achieve"

It's hard to come out of the Science of Sleep without thinking about Michel Gondre's previous film, the Charlie Kaufman penned Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Both are mindbending distortions of time and consciousness with bombastic imagery but heart at it's core.  However if the two films were Pink Floyd CDs, Eternal Sunshine would be "Dark of the Moon" and The Science of Sleep would be "The Wall".  The first being slightly more consumable, atmospheric and consistant in quality...the second being more daring, a bit more of a challenge to get your bearings with highs higher and lows lower.  In both cases the results are feast for the eyes and a thoroughly satisfying experience.

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The Science of sleep centers around a young single inventor, artist and tinkerer, Stephane (Gael García Bernal) who has difficulty discerning his dreams from his waking life.  Complications arise as he attempts to become romantically involved with his French neighbor Stephanie (Charlotte Gainsbourg) in the apartment across the way.  The film gives the audience no more clues than Stephanie has as to his current state of consciousness from one scene to the next - which admittedly be extremely frustrating for an unsympathetic audience member, but I really enjoyed the challenge.  

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None of this would work without great performances by Bernal and Gainsbourg.  Their flirty, dysfunctional relationship elevates the film - giving the sureal set of mind games a much-needed grounding and some real sweetness.  It was pretty easy to emphasize with Stephane's inability to make a connection, and Stephanie's challenge at understanding why he was so random from meeting to the next.  At one point the two are discussing a project to work on together involving trees and a boat.  Their enthusiasm in infectious.  Gondre mixes the scene with real and imagined elements which are particularily effective.  Another scene Stephanie and a girlfriend are giggling as they watch him through a peep-hole.  I have to admit grinning ear to ear through some of this.

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Perhaps where The Science of Sleep will play second fiddle to Eternal Sunshine is simply in the fact the lessons here are less poigniant and effecting.  It's not really a knock on the film - this wasn't what it was going for. It's more a "what if" set of questions, whereas Sunshine's themes are more universal.  Nevertheless, I can really recommend to this to someone his is looking for something that's not quite the standard fare - a relationship movie with brains or one of those "out there" movies that is just cohensive enough to keep it out of Von Trier territory.

Anyways - a fun fun film.  One of my favorites from the marathon.  It's not as likely I will end up purchasing this (like I did with Jesse James, Spirited Awway, Children of Men and Eternal Sunshine) but I'm sure I'll sure look forward to watching it again .


Verdict:
Magical, inventive and twisted in the best sense of the word.  Great imagery meets great characters

Grade: A 
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Post by: StarCarly on January 18, 2010, 12:42:32 AM
You picked some great screenshots. I'm so glad you liked it. This movie has an exceedingly special place in my heart. It is just pure glee for me.
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Post by: Junior on January 18, 2010, 02:02:10 AM
This started my love for both leads. And Gondry.

I think I mesh with this movie better than Eternal Sunshine. Though I've only seen each once.
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Post by: Melvil on January 18, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
Seeing those screenshots really made me want to see this again. It's a very memorable movie, and a really fun time.
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Post by: oldkid on January 18, 2010, 10:54:01 AM
Already in my queue.  I'm really looking forward to it now.
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Post by: ferris on January 18, 2010, 10:55:04 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone.  Not since Jesse James have I had so many great images to choose from!  I'm glad they are evocative to people!

BTW, anyone else just fall in love with Charlotte Gainsbourg in this?  
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Post by: StarCarly on January 18, 2010, 11:38:11 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone.  Not since Jesse James have I had so many great images to choose from!  I'm glad they are evocative to people!

BTW, anyone else just fall in love with Charlotte Gainsbourg in this?  

Stephane, Stephanie. I like her here more than I do in Antichrist, thats for sure.
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Post by: ferris on January 23, 2010, 04:03:39 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #17

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In the Bedroom
(2001,  Todd Field)

"Change? No, I don't change....Everything around me changes."

Loved this film.  No surpise really.  When great dialog meets great characters played by great actors that's my recipe for success.  Rather than trying to think of new superblatives to come up with, I'm going to share a few screenshots and dissect a couple of scenes.

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The hug:
I'll identify the scene so those who have seen it will recognize it but is not spoilery in any way.  The scene is a husband and wife, played by Tom Wilkenson and Sissy Spacek, embrace after a pretty vicious fight.  The fight was interupted by a knock on the door.  It's a girl selling candy for a fundraiser.  The brilliance of this whole scene starts with the fight being interupted to begin with.  Life goes on.  People who pass you buy on the street have no way of knowing your pain, just as you have no way of knowing theirs.  The husband goes to the door - so consistant with his personality - he is not strong enough to simply shoe the girl away.  Instead, not only does he purchase one candy bar but a few of them.  Somehow he manages to compartmentalize the moment in a way his wife could not, and in a way she also does not respect or understand - which really is the crux of the argument they're having.  He walks back into the living room where she sees the candy and instantly recognizes what had gone on.  Here is a crossroads for the entire movie.   She chooses not to editorilize as she knows she rightly could and that moment of silence is just enought for her husband to break down and apologize.  The what follows is so tender and poignent, it's hard not to get choked up at this beautifully tragic moment.

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Driving home after crossing the bridge:
Again, no specific.  There's a scene near the end of the movie where a pretty significant event takes place at a friend's house.  Two men are driving back into town early morning and are stopped at a bridge.  They wait while an operator hand-cranks the turntable to let a boat pass.  It is as tense a sense as I've seen in this marathon.  Afterward they drive into town and the director makes an interesting choice to take quick shots of random things in store windows, signs, and blinking traffic lights.  I recognize this so well from my own life.  Driving down a road after an event takes place that I regret and can't get back.  Things look different. They have a heightened significance.  I'm trying to find a distraction  to keep from replaying things in my head and worrying about the ramifications.  

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It is the scnenes like this that I really enjoy - when a filmaker takes the time to remind the character and our audience about "real life" interupting amid crisis.  That is the real tragedy of life sometimes - you can't press pause.

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BTW: Sissy Spacek and Tom WIlkenson are both great in this.  I believe both were at least nominated for Oscars that year.  But I have to call out in particular Marisa Tomei, who I think gives the best performance I'd ever seen her give.  

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Really enjoyed this.  

One last thing.  Three chords in I could indentify a Thomas Newman score.  After doing films like Shawshank and The Horse Whisperer he really made a mark for himself on American Beauty, and maybe most acclaimed for his score for Finding Nemo.  However for the remainder of the decade he had really started to become too self-repetitive to the point I was downright annoyed by it in Revolutionary Road for instance.  However, in In the Bedroom, it is subtle and haunting and really matches the story well.  Newman will remain one of my all time favorite composers.  Good save.  I'm going to remember this come GooseEgg award time


Verdict:
Pitch perfect acting performances elevate a simple story to make it gripping and hauting.

Grade: A 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 12:03:36 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #18

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The Fountain
(2006, Darren Aronofsky)

"He grew into the wood, into the bloom...and when a sparrow ate the tree's fruit, his father flew with the birds..."

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Wow - pretty amazing movie experience here.  As you can see from the screenshots here, some absolutely stunning visuals.  Some pretty high minded stuff as well.  I really appreciate how Aronofky totally sold out all the way on his vision here.  There is a really really fine line between bravado and pretension.  Aronofsky straddles the line from scene to scene and it had me holding my breath from minute to minute: Was it going to totally blow me away or it's just going to fall in on itself?  I guess, in the end I suppose it did neither - but it came pretty dang close.

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I appreciate what he was going for here and I allowed myself to get caught up in the three intertwining stories.  I gawked at the visuals.  At one point late in the film there was a scene where a character places some medicine on a wound.  This may go down as my favorite scene from the entire decade.  

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In the end I guess what held me back from truly embracing this as the epic magnum opus I think it set out to be, was the "current day" thread.  It left me a bit cold.  I suppose in a way that was the intent.  There is a timelessness generic quality to the storytelling and perhaps our two leads were supposed to come off as "stagy" for that purpose.  However this movie goer would have appreciated a bit more warmth and heart in these sections.  Especially Rachel Weisz - who I absolutely loved in The Brothers Bloom - who was more like a China doll than a fleshed out character. I blame this on the director.

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I loved the Cliff Mansell score.  He's getting to be my new favorite composer.  I loved the message of the film as well - appreciating life instead of clinging to it.  The theme got a bit heavy handed by the end.  It also seemed like it was going to end like three times.  But that's ok - I enjoyed the film right to the last.

It may take a rewatch or two to really get a fix on my final opinion on this.  But either way, great film watching experience and I'd recommend it to anyone - especially if you think these screenshots are cool.  I paired these down from about 50 shots I took!

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Verdict:
Crazy great visuals and a cool structure, but a bit distant - missing the mark as a true epic.

Grade: B+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 12:07:14 AM
I'm still reading... and still enjoying your pieces.

I make the process of writing these so much harder than it needs to be!!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on January 25, 2010, 12:09:40 AM
It is a gorgeous movie. Your review makes me want to seek out the Blu ray.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on January 25, 2010, 12:15:44 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #16

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The Science of Sleep
(2006, Michel Gondry)


I just saw this film. Wow.

It's amazing. What makes it work is that Stephane is such a complex character, both relatable in his solipsism and his attempts to communicate his interior life with the external world, and unsympathetic when the film goes objective and almost verite. We see who he really is, and then we see how he projects himself. This film is essentially stream of conscious, and it's far sadder than some might think.

This film really connected with me. Wonderful movie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on January 25, 2010, 12:21:46 AM
I didn't care too much for The Fountain when I saw it several years ago, but dang if it isn't gorgeous as can be. I want to rewatch it for that if nothing else, but I'm guessing I would also be more receptive to the story than I was before.

Nice writeup!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 12:24:15 AM
The Science of Sleep (2006, Michel Gondry)

I just saw this film. Wow.

It's amazing. What makes it work is that Stephane is such a complex character, both relatable in his solipsism and his attempts to communicate his interior life with the external world, and unsympathetic when the film goes objective and almost verite. We see who he really, and then we see how he projects himself. This film is essentially stream of conscious, and it's far sadder than some might think.

This film really connected with me. Wonderful movie.

I so wish I watched this again before sending it back.  I miss it already.  Glad you liked it!  And Stephane - that's a tough tough role.  You've got to get that just right .  I think he really did, and Stephanie is just the perfect character to bounce against him.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on January 25, 2010, 12:25:45 AM
I didn't care too much for The Fountain when I saw it several years ago

The problem I have with it is that it feels like it should be more epic than it is.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on January 25, 2010, 12:27:24 AM
I love In the Bedroom , and I liked The Fountain a lot - excellent write-ups!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 12:28:05 AM
I didn't care too much for The Fountain when I saw it several years ago, but dang if it isn't gorgeous as can be. I want to rewatch it for that if nothing else, but I'm guessing I would also be more receptive to the story than I was before.

Nice writeup!

thanks!  I had a bit trouble connecting to the story as well - it's as if I was being intentionally left an arm's length away.  On the other hand there are lots of scenes of unwiped tears (you-know that 'dribble down the cheek' thing) so....dunno.

The problem I have with it is that it feels like it should be more epic than it is.

Good way to say it.

I love In the Bedroom , and I liked The Fountain a lot - excellent write-ups!

If memory serves, you were the main proponent of In the Bedroom.  Thanks for pushing that one!  I loved it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on January 25, 2010, 12:30:42 AM
I love In the Bedroom , and I liked The Fountain a lot - excellent write-ups!

If memory serves, you were the main proponent of In the Bedroom.  Thanks for pushing that one!  I loved it.
So glad my recommendation turned out so well!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: worm@work on January 25, 2010, 07:09:06 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #16



The Science of Sleep
(2006, Michel Gondry)


I just saw this film. Wow.

It's amazing. What makes it work is that Stephane is such a complex character, both relatable in his solipsism and his attempts to communicate his interior life with the external world, and unsympathetic when the film goes objective and almost verite. We see who he really is, and then we see how he projects himself. This film is essentially stream of conscious, and it's far sadder than some might think.

This film really connected with me. Wonderful movie.

I haven't watched it since it first came out but this is exactly how I remember feeling after watching it. Liked it so much.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 25, 2010, 07:13:12 AM
Another great review ferris. I could stand to watch The Fountain and In the Bedroom again. The Fountain especially.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on January 25, 2010, 08:26:23 AM
The Fountain is the only film that has given me a headache from being so overwhelmingly beautiful. I don't think the story is all there but it's still an amazing film I love.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!)Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 11:22:27 AM
Announcing the next two rounds of my GooseEgg Marathon:(I may try to do 10 more to round out a full 50, but I think this is pretty ambitious for now!)

Round Three:
(with one 90's film (!) )
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Before Sunrise
The Hurt Locker
World's Greatest Dad
The Fantastic Mr Fox
Y Tu Mama Tambien
25th Hour
The Man Who Wasn't There
A Prairie Home Companion
Capturing the Friedmans
Team America World Police

Notes on Round 3:
As you might notice, I'm trying to squeeze three 2009 Filmspot eligible films in before the deadline.  Not sure if they really qualify for "best of the decade" yet, but hey it's my list.  You'll also notice I have a 1990's film on there.  Well that's because you'll see it's sequel is in the next round. So that's my cheat on the round 3.  I added two "fun" ones here "Team America" and "Prairie Home" just because round 4 is a bit somber in places.



Round 4:
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Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World
Requiem for a Dream
Los Angeles Plays Itself
The Bourn Ultimatum
Grizzly Man
My Winnipeg
A History of Violence
The Wind that Shakes the Barley
The Squid and the Whale
Before Sunset

Notes on Round 4:
Trying to round out the rest of the "mainstream" films.  If I end up having time I'll add a fifth and final round for more foreign stuff like Eureka, Moolaade, Triplettes of Belville, and L'Enfant.  Too many movies too little time.  The cheat on this list is Grizzly Man.  I did see this once - with no idea no Herzog was and expecting a nature documentary. I wanted it with my wife who was not down and let it be known throughout the film.  I'm wanting to give it another chance (like I did with Eternal Sunshine in round 2)

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: TWENTY Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 25, 2010, 11:26:11 AM
Great variety. There's some films there I hope you really enjoy, and a few I hope you hate ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on January 25, 2010, 11:27:17 AM
Before Sunrise isn't from this past decade. But you should watch it, then watch Before Sunset, which is from this past decade. Both wonderful.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on January 25, 2010, 11:28:01 AM
Bourne! Locker! America!!! No Belleville? Aw. But still, awesome!!

After this we doin the miyazaki stuff?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 11:28:07 AM
Before Sunrise isn't from this past decade. But you should watch it, then watch Before Sunset, which is from this past decade. Both wonderful.

Right, I made that comment in my notes.  It's a cheat :)  I'm hoping you're right !
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 11:29:00 AM
Bourne! Locker! America!!! No Belleville? Aw. But still, awesome!!

After this we doin the miyazaki stuff?

Yes!  I have two business trips coming up and I should be able to watch two films a night each week, thus the ambition.  BTW: Welcome back!  :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: oldkid on January 25, 2010, 11:59:09 AM
I haven't read your last few reviews except for your overall like of them because I still need to see them myself.   But I will and then I will return and enjoy your reviews!

Another excellent list!  But I can't wait for you and 'Noke to do Miyazaki!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: pixote on January 25, 2010, 12:07:07 PM
What I Learned Today: Holly Harry doesn't read it for the articles; he just looks at the pictures.

You were able to get a hold of Los Angeles Plays Itself, ferris?

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: oneaprilday on January 25, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
Ooo, yay - great line-ups! Especially looking forward to hearing what you think of Capturing the Friedmans and Grizzly Man.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 12:10:10 PM
What I Learned Today: Holly Harry doesn't read it for the articles; he just looks at the pictures.

You were able to get a hold of Los Angeles Play Itself, ferris?

pixote

Funny you brought that up.  The fact very little came up in a simple google search had me wondering it this might be a little difficult to get a hold of!  Hook me up filmspotting nation!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on January 25, 2010, 12:12:15 PM
Sweeeeet! This promises to be completely awesome. I'm really excited for the whole top row of round 3. In the bottom row I've only seen one and hated it, but we'll see. :)

That round 5 sounds awesome, would be great if that ended up happening, but it's not like this isn't ambitious enough already. ;)

But I can't wait for you and 'Noke to do Miyazaki!

Oh yeah, seconded for sure!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on January 25, 2010, 12:26:57 PM
What I Learned Today: Holly Harry doesn't read it for the articles; he just looks at the pictures.



People read posts more than a paragraph long?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on January 25, 2010, 12:28:47 PM
Yesss, Requiem for a Dream. My personal favorite of the decade.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on January 25, 2010, 12:36:57 PM
Have fun, ferris. A lot of cool stuff in there...and some Ethan Hawke movies  ;).
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on January 25, 2010, 12:40:31 PM
What I Learned Today: Holly Harry doesn't read it for the articles; he just looks at the pictures.

You were able to get a hold of Los Angeles Play Itself, ferris?

pixote

Funny you brought that up.  The fact very little came up in a simple google search had me wondering it this might be a little difficult to get a hold of!  Hook me up filmspotting nation!

I don't think it's on DVD due to copyright cost with the clips.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 25, 2010, 02:24:02 PM
What I Learned Today: Holly Harry doesn't read it for the articles; he just looks at the pictures.



People read posts more than a paragraph long?

I totally understand people have to pick and choose just to be able to keep up with their day! I certainly do the same more than I want to admit.

  I edited the post to reflect it in a more obvious way.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 26, 2010, 02:57:16 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #19

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The Lives of Others
(2006, Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck)

"...becuase as you know Dreyman, hope always dies last..."

I feel like I'm getting a bit repetitive in my reviews, because just about every movie in this GooseEgg marathon has been just fantastic.  I feel like I've said "one of the best of the marathon" about 7 times in 19 films.  And here I'm about to say it again.  But I guess that's ok.  These recommendations came from the voting power of the filmspotting collective.  If anything, this helps everyone's credibilty around here!

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Looking ahead at this current batch of 10 films I guessed that The Lives of Others would be my favorite when all was said and done.  I'm a bit partial to historical political dramas.  Having lived my developmental years at the very height of the cold war and seeing the Wall fall during my junior year of college, not only is this material extremely poigniant to me personally, but that era feels like only a few years ago.  It's a growing concern of mine that it will be an era known by future generations mostly only through the comic book stylings of 80's movies and "decade of greed" textbook chapter titles - leaving less discussion as to whether the West was fighting windmills made up of it's own stereotypes and paranoia or if there really were tangible widespread human rights violations east of the iron curtain that deserved actions leading to the most alarming arms race in world history.  

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It's an important discussion that this film tackles because it cuts to the core of whether "winning the cold war" was an honorable fight - but perhaps more, has the US become that which it had fought so hard against.  I remember 1984 being in English lit class reading 1984 and having our teacher explain that it was not a warning to the East, it was warning to the west.  That was pretty forward thinking at the time.  

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So context established, let's talk about the film itself.  What we know going in is: this is a film set in Berlin in 1984.  Gerd Wiesler, a member of the state security department has set up survellience on a young writer/director Georg Dreymanand his actress girlfriend Christa-Maria Sielandin their home.  Wiesler has had quite a reputation in DDR as an interogator and instructor on how to sniff out a lyer.  But this case turns out to be a little different.  Dreymanand is an ambiguous subject and as the details of Christa-Maria's situation unfold, things are not so black and white.

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Outside of that summary, it's very tough to talk about this without giving away spoilers.  Suffice to say the story is tragic in so many ways and film does a fabulous job of staying focused on one slice of an issue of paranoia and loss of privacy that was pervasive at this time.  The film makes it very personal.  Our characters are well rounded and their motivations are clear and actions believable.  From scene to scene, the film sets up the next plot point with so much precision, you'd think it was trying to fire up the Lem on the Apollo 13 mission.  The 2:17 minute run time goes by very quickly.  I was rivited and surprised at how many times I was surprised.

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When I select screenshots, I love to find shots that would be meaningless to someone who hadn't seen the film, but devestating to those who had.  I probably could have included 6 or more - most notably a shot at the very end of the film in a bookstore (which brought me to tears - I must admit).  I'll include just a few here.  

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While this second round has not produced a bonefide stop-the-credits-open-my-spreadsheet top 100 film for me (I had two from the first round!) - it certainly has a few, including this one, in strong consideration.  

Last point, I had seen Ulrich Mühe's name on a bunch of best-performances lists going into this - so I anticipated a great effort.  He does really deliver a memorable character here with the same subtlety that made Michael Stuhlbarg's performance great in A Serious Man. Martina Gedeck is so good as well.  She had a lot of weight to carry in this film.  It could have been so poor in another actress's hands.  

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I could go on, but this review is already running long.  Another great film.  Very memorable.  Very easy to recommend to others.

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Verdict:
Gripping and tragic. Extremely well structured.  Very moving emotionally.

Grade: A 


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Post by: oldkid on January 26, 2010, 03:06:46 PM
I knew you'd like this one.  Just fantastic.  What a great, powerful, moving film.
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Post by: 1SO on January 26, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
This may be one of the more universally underappreciated films from the decade.  So many people have heard of its greatness, yet so few have taken the time to watch it.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on January 26, 2010, 05:12:18 PM
I should see this. I really should. I just haven't. For no good reason. Seriously.

And. Why. Am. I. Using. So. Many. Periods?
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Post by: Melvil on January 26, 2010, 05:13:17 PM
I'll have to keep this in mind, I really haven't heard much about it until now.
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Post by: Holly Harry on January 26, 2010, 05:16:03 PM
Really? People were in praise overload a few years ago. I personally think it's great. The earned ending sells it for me.
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Post by: smirnoff on January 26, 2010, 05:16:34 PM
This may be one of the more universally underappreciated films from the decade.  So many people have heard of its greatness, yet so few have taken the time to watch it.

Including me. I'll be checking back here once I do though!
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Post by: ses on January 26, 2010, 07:46:01 PM
I am so glad you liked it, ferris.  I think it is fantastic.
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Post by: oneaprilday on January 26, 2010, 11:28:10 PM
Can't wait to check this out - just picked it up from the library tonight!
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Post by: skjerva on January 26, 2010, 11:34:04 PM
feel free to skip Capturing the Friedmans
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Post by: ferris on January 27, 2010, 01:48:02 AM
Can't wait to check this out - just picked it up from the library tonight!

Great timing!  I'd love to hear your thoughts ...
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Post by: ferris on January 27, 2010, 05:46:56 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #20

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Apocalypto
(2006, Mel Gibson)

This was a tough one to get through for me.  I'm not big on violence, although I can take a fair amount given the right setup and environment.  Here it is unrelenting in a way that became non-entertainment for me.  I had to decided to turn it off after about 38 minutes.  Later that evening I put it back on and struggled through the rest.  In hindsight I'm glad I did.  There is some real bravaro filmmaking here, and that final scene on the beach through to the end is really all-time great.  Had Gibson made the choice to dial down the violence just a few clicks - particularily in a few places where it seemed purposely elevated for the shock value (cougar and open grave scenes come to mind) I could have found my way to really loving this.  I'd be spending all my time talking about the amazing performance of the lead character and the breathtaking jungle cinematography.  Instead, here's a very lukewarm review, with little desire to ever revisit this.

Verdict:
Bravaro filmmaking to be sure, but the over-the-top violence kept bringing me out of the film.

Grade: C  
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 27, 2010, 06:59:22 AM
I'm sorry to hear this one sucked so hard for you ferris.

Personally the violence never struck me as excessive. Extreme certainly, but it didn't take me out of the movie. I guess that really makes all the difference.

Hopefully no other films in the marathon are this unenjoyable!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on January 27, 2010, 10:30:38 AM
But it's Die Hard in the jungle!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 28, 2010, 10:09:10 AM
Second Round GooseEgg Awards
(To the extent it makes sense to do awards for a round of 10 films - here you go...)

Best Film:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
In the Bedroom
The Lives of Others
The Science of Sleep
Yi Yi
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Winner: Enternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
(very tough decision here)

Best Director:
Edward Yang - Yi Yi
Michel Gondre - Enternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Michel Gondre - The Science of Sleep
Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund - City of God
Darren Aronofsky - The Fountain
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Winner: Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund - City of God

Best Screenplay
Charlie Kaufman  - Enternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Michel Gondry - The Science of Sleep
Robert Festinger and Todd Field - In the Bedroom
Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck - The Lives of Others
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Winner: Charlie Kaufman  - Enternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best Cinematography:
Dean Semler - Apocalypto
Wei-han Yang  - Yi Yi
César Charlone - City of God
Jean-Louis Bompoint - The Science of Sleep
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Winner: Wei-han Yang  - Yi Yi

Best Actress:
Charlotte Gainsbourg - The Science of Sleep
Sissy Spacek - In the Bedroom
Martina Gedeck - The Lives of Others
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Winner: Charlotte Gainsbourg - The Science of Sleep

Best Supporting Actress
Kelly Lee - Yi Yi
Kirsten Dunst - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Marisa Tomei - In the Bedroom
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Winner: Marisa Tomei - In the Bedroom

Best Actor:
Tom Wilkinson - In the Bedroom
Rudy Youngblood - Apocalypto
Gael García Bernal - The Science of Sleep
Ulrich Mühe - The Lives of Others
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Winner: Gael García Bernal - The Science of Sleep
very tough decision here too

Best Supporting Actor
Issei Ogata - Yi Yi
Mark Ruffalo - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Leandro Firmino - City of God
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Winner: Issei Ogata - Yi Yi

Best Editing:
City of God
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Fountain
The Science of Sleep
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Winner - The Science of Sleep

Best Score
Clint Mansell -  The Fountain
Thomas Newman - In the Bedroom
Jon Brion - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
James Horner and Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Apcocalypto
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winner: Jon Brion - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best Scene
- The Bookstore - The Lives of Others
- What they saw at the Beach - Apocalypto
- Healing the Wound - The Fountain
- Drive home from Montauk - Eternal Sunshine
- Naming the cat - Joyeux Noel
- Starting the art project - The Science of Sleep
- Buying the candy - In the Bedroom
- Spending the day with an old freind - Yi Yi
- Kill the bird - Eternal Sunshine
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Winner: Healing the Wound - The Fountain

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on January 28, 2010, 10:20:09 AM
You're a good man, ferris.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 28, 2010, 10:32:13 AM
I'm happy to see Apocalypto get some noms, even though the film turned you off.

A lot of films here I would like to catch up with.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on January 28, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
How did Yi Yi not win all of these awards?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 28, 2010, 11:52:03 AM
Too loong! ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: skjerva on January 28, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
How did Yi Yi not win all of these awards?

hello? it isn't that good
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on January 28, 2010, 01:05:38 PM
skjerva :(

I thought we were kindred spirits, but then I remember you don't like Yi Yi all that much...

We should probably convince Ferris to add in a Tsai film to this shindig. We're still buddies, right? RIGHT.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 28, 2010, 01:25:03 PM
I'm happy to see Apocalypto get some noms, even though the film turned you off.

A lot of films here I would like to catch up with.

Thought it deserved it.  Upon reflection I'm wanting up my grade on it a bit.  It has stuck with me a bit more than I thought it would
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on January 28, 2010, 02:40:35 PM
Shh! Listen..... do you hear that? It sounds like... like a second viewing! Only it's very distant. A year or two away at least.

:)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on January 28, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
How did Yi Yi not win all of these awards?

hello? it isn't that good
:D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 28, 2010, 06:43:54 PM
How did Yi Yi not win all of these awards?

hello? it isn't that good
:D

Perhaps. I was sorting through the screenshots this morning and caught myself enjoying the trip...a little
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Post by: ferris on January 29, 2010, 05:43:48 PM

Goose Egg Marathon Film #21

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Before Sunrise
(1996, Richard Linklater)

"No delusions, no projections, let just make tonight great"

This is not a 2000s film, so... why review it as part of my GooseEgg marathon?  Simply because I am including the sequel Before Sunset at the end of the marathon.  I took pixote's advice and made these bookends.  

So, I'd actually seen part of this before, back when it first came out.  I fell asleep about 20 minutes in and woke up towards the end.  I asked my wife if anything had happened and she replied "not really, they've just been talking the whole time".  All I had remembered from the early going was convesations by two priveleged white young adults whining about their life and parents and making sweeping generalizations about relationships and human nature.  MEH.  Had no interest in ever filling in the blanks or revisiting.

But due to the overwhelming recommendations of my brethren here I decided to give it another try.  I have to admit, the early going was a tug of war between my refusing to connect with the characters and enjoy this in any way and the film's absolute refusal to give up at completely winning me over.  About the time our young couple kissed in the ferris wheel I lost the battle.  This is a gem.  A real gem.  I totally missed the point the first time around.

First, I love how gutsy this is:  a film about two people talking.  The conversations are genuine.  These are conversations that only 20 somethings can have:  a strange mix of worldliness, "new knowledge" and odd insecurity.  It all comes out. I'm doing that thing where you try to anticipate the response to every line and I'm surprised over and over again at how perfect it is.  

Watching this is like getting to read Richard Linklater's personal blog posts for a month - with thoughts on such universal themes such as gender differences to such sweet, naive profundities like "we're each 1/50000 of a soul".  As a younger man I took those to be pretencious - but now I look back with nostalgia about having these kinds of endless idealistic devil-may-care conversations with friends - the ones that fall away as the weight of a life filled with diapers and mortgage payments make it just an effort to keep your head above water.

The first time I watched this Ethan Hawke came off as smarmy.  This time I came out thinking - wow he played that perfect: so guarded in the early going trying to impress but coming off as awkward and unsure.  But as the film goes on the outside layers evaporate as the two of them realize they have absolutely nothing to lose in trying to be their purest self - even if they're just not so sure what that purest self is?

Quick story: my wife and I are watching this together.  After that poetry scene, the Hawk character dismisses the ad hoc creativity as some kinda fill-in-the-blank gimmickery.  My wife and I look at each other with these knowing glances. She shakes her head and rolls her eyes.  We didn't even have to say anything.  It's a dozen or so perfect little things like this that is the subtle genius of this film.

I'm a bit short on giving this a A+ grade and I'm not sure why.  Can't quite put my finger on it.  But I am really glad y'all pushed me to watch this, and in particular to wait until later to see the sequel.  I think watching it 19 film from now will give me enough time to miss these character.

Sorry no more screenshots.  I watched it on IFC.

Verdict:
A precious, sweet and disarming little gem. Can't wait to watch the sequel

Grade: A  
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on January 29, 2010, 06:45:14 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #22

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The Hurt Locker
(2009, Katherine Biggalo)

"Ya know, you can shoot people here.  You don't have to throw wrenches"

There has been a lot of talk and individual reviews on this lately, so I won't spend a lot of time on mine.  This was truly gripping and intense.  Katherine Biggalo is a front runner for best director this year and it's easy to see why.  Stylistic choices made for some pretty intense scenes.  

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It's quite an eye-opener to see some of the stuff that's going on over there.

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The "rougue" play-by-his-own-rules character arc I found a bit annoying - especially since it is pretty well lined up with detrators' attitudes about the cowboy mentality of the military in general.  But I guess the strength and professionalism of his mates more than balanced things out.  Just found it a bit boring.  Nevertheless, as has been pointed out before, Biggalo doesn't editorialize at all - it's just put forth is a pretty unflinching manner.

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The ending was an interesting choice, and made me think this was less an Iraq movie and more an adrenaline junkie movie.  I'm not 100% sold on that, but I'm uh...pretty close. 

A few scenes will stick with me for quite awhile, and this is certainly a solid entry for 2009.  Whether or not it deserves all the Oscar hype it seems to be getting is another story for me.  But all-in-all I'm glad I checked this out.

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Verdict:
Quite intense and very open-opening.  Very strong direction to be sure.  Overall pretty solid

Grade: B  
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Post by: ferris on January 29, 2010, 06:55:51 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #23

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Fantastic Mr. Fox
(2009, Wes Anderson)

"You should probably put your bandit hat on now. Personally, I- I don't have one, but I modified this tube sock. "

I finally caught up with this in the theater this week.  I've been trying to sneak out and catch this for some time.  If I go myself it's $10.  If I bring the family it's $50, so it's bit of a tricky thing to make a case to go see a "cartoon kids movie" on my own at night on a school night. But I did finally pull it off!

I had a ton of fun with this.  I'm a bit more on the sympathetic side when it comes to Wes Anderson, but I've not seen a few of his films yet - so I can hardly be counted as a fanboy.  His style is so well suited to this medium.  I was scared from the trailers that this was going to be an absurd annoying mess, but instead it was really interesting, quite clever and laugh-out-load funny in places.  

There is a scene toward the end with a wolf that I just loved.  It's one of those things you can get in film and really no where else.   There's a lot more I could say, but I'll keep it short because there has been a lot of discussion here lately. 

As I'm finishing up my filmspots I've got this as the #4 film of the year and the best animated film - easily beating out "Up" (sorry Pixar, but I still ya)

Verdict:
So clever.  Very witty and visually amazing.  One of the best of the year.

Grade: A  
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Wilson on January 29, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
cuss yeah.

3 great reviews, I felt pretty much the exact as you for all 3 of them.  Though I'd totally up Before to A+.
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Post by: ferris on January 29, 2010, 10:45:26 PM
cuss yeah.

so great, isn't it?  :)
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Post by: oneaprilday on January 30, 2010, 01:30:16 PM
Can't wait to check this out - just picked it up from the library tonight!

Great timing!  I'd love to hear your thoughts ...
The Lives of Others was just as wonderful as you reported, ferris. I just finished this morning - while on my treadmill (the way I have to watch many films if I want to watch them at all since my time is limited) - and I found once again (as I've done with other films like United 93), that's it's difficult to run and weep at the same time. I re-read your review here just now, and your choice of screenshots had me tearing up all over again. I don't have much to add to your thoughts except that I agree with all that you said - the performances, the structure, each beat of the story worked perfectly. It's a film I'm going to be recommending to all my friends.

My experience with the film was made more interesting, I think, in that I read The Handmaid's Tale this month, and while that is a vision of a future, oppressive, stifling dystopia, one that resides in the fictional imagination, it was amazing just how many parallels I saw between the fiction and the representation of a real place and a real time in this film. I read that Atwood claimed she did not make anything up - everything in her novel she culled from real life. The Lives of Others makes her claim easy to believe.
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Post by: ferris on January 30, 2010, 07:51:48 PM
Can't wait to check this out - just picked it up from the library tonight!

Great timing!  I'd love to hear your thoughts ...
The Lives of Others was just as wonderful as you reported, ferris. I just finished this morning - while on my treadmill (the way I have to watch many films if I want to watch them at all since my time is limited) - and I found once again (as I've done with other films like United 93), that's it's difficult to run and weep at the same time. I re-read your review here just now, and your choice of screenshots had me tearing up all over again. I don't have much to add to your thoughts except that I agree with all that you said - the performances, the structure, each beat of the story worked perfectly. It's a film I'm going to be recommending to all my friends.

My experience with the film was made more interesting, I think, in that I read The Handmaid's Tale this month, and while that is a vision of a future, oppressive, stifling dystopia, one that resides in the fictional imagination, it was amazing just how many parallels I saw between the fiction and the representation of a real place and a real time in this film. I read that Atwood claimed she did not make anything up - everything in her novel she culled from real life. The Lives of Others makes her claim easy to believe.

Glad you had a similar experience and appreciated the screenshots I chose.  I had so many others that were just as evokative.  Wow - can't believe you watch movies on the treadmill.  I can barely watch a football game on the treadmill as that's mostly replays and guys huddling up!  Maybe on the stairclimber...
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Post by: oldkid on January 30, 2010, 10:48:28 PM
Great reviews, ferris.  I can't wait to see Fox.

And the reason you  couldn't give Before Sunrise an A+?  Because you are saving it for Before Sunset.  ;)

I graded the Hurt Locker a little higher, but still, great.
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Post by: ferris on January 30, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
Great reviews, ferris.  I can't wait to see Fox.

And the reason you  couldn't give Before Sunrise an A+?  Because you are saving it for Before Sunset.  ;)

I graded the Hurt Locker a little higher, but still, great.

I think you'd like Fox.  It's not very often you get to see something that unique.  Hmm A or A+ hmmm....just not quite there.  Maybe I am saving myself.  :)

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Post by: ferris on February 02, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #24

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Los Angeles Plays Itself
(2003, Thom Andersen)

"Without a car, you will die "

First, big big thanks to Melvil for sending me this DVD.  I wasn't aware of the rights problems that prevented it from ever getting a proper release.  After watching this, I sure am glad I wasn't on the team charged with trying to negotiate them!

So, this is kinda an amazing documentary, when you consider the swaths of research done here.  I have to say I will never look at LA...ehem...I mean Los Angeles as portrayed on the screen the same way again.  It's funny, I've spent the last week planning a trip to LA (family, Disney, blah blah blah) and researching how to fill a couple extra days with relatively inexpensive things to do (those in the area with ideas - please PM me :) ) and it occurred to me that - outside of the Hollywood sign and Venice Beach how loseley coalesced my understanding of the city and it's burbs was - even though I've been there several times!  There's no center heartbeat like an Eiffel Tower or Empire State Building.  There's no trademark icon that immediately comes to mind like the Golden Gate bridge or Wrigley Field - which is odd, because may very well be the most represented city in movie history.  

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This documentary went a long way in describing how the portrayal of Los Angeles in film informs outsiders' understanding of the city.  In movies from Who Framed Roger Rabbit to Double Indemnity it showed how fast and lose directors are with distance and space and how little attention it pays to the truly signature trademarks of its history - instead, either focusing on the rich hillside homes, the quaint beachfront properties or the slums and oil rigs that one might imagine fill the entire space in between.  

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Film, like a local newscast, has a job to manipulate an audience by tapping into deeply held stereotypes - like how LA cops were portrayed in every movie after the Rodney King beatings.  The film does a great job showing, for instance, the portrayal of police in film over the years and how this portrayal was manipulated both by studios and stereotypes of the city.   By the time the narrator mentioned "Falling Down" I really began to question the what I had brought to the film that got me loving that film so much!

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The director must be a student of archetecture, because his study of it here is really pretty thorough and interesting.  He sorta went head-on against the criticisms of LA as a city with ridiculously divergent styles.  

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I will warn however this days play a bit like an overreaching film school training video.  This really could have used the Michael Moore treatment!  I didn't mind the really dry, monotone delivery - but I did have trouble following the director's train of thought. It needed a much better edit.   It almost seemed as though he tried to use exclusively footage he new he could score rights for - then at one point he just said "screw it" and just started throwing the kitchen sink in there.  Well...LOL...I loved the kitchen sink stuff - especially paying special attention to films like Blade Runner and LA Confidential.

However, in the end, I was left knowing a hundred things LA wasn't, but still no real sense of what it WAS!  So I'm still scrambling for vacation ideas.  On the other hand, I'll never watch Falling Down the same way again.

Some other passing quotes from this:

[James] Cameron loved killing cops

[Steve] Martin's LA is almost as white as [Woody] Allen's Manhattan

[Accoring to Grand Canyon] Making a left turn in LA is one of the harder things you're gonna learn in life.


FYI:  Here's a list of films used in this documentary
http://www.twotreatises.org/409 (http://www.twotreatises.org/409)



Verdict:
Very informative, thoroughly researched, but a bit all over the place

Grade: B-  

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: skjerva on February 02, 2010, 11:34:02 PM

Los Angeles Plays Itself

First, big big thanks to Melvil for sending me this DVD.  I wasn't aware of the rights problems that prevented it from ever getting a proper release.  

i'm not sure what you mean by a proper release.  it does get screened, but it is clearly not a film that would play to a wide audience. this is also getting a DVD release soon.  and

B-?   someday you'll give it another try and think better of it.  i am sure of this.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 02, 2010, 11:45:14 PM

Los Angeles Plays Itself

First, big big thanks to Melvil for sending me this DVD.  I wasn't aware of the rights problems that prevented it from ever getting a proper release.  

i'm not sure what you mean by a proper release.  it does get screened, but it is clearly not a film that would play to a wide audience. this is also getting a DVD release soon.  and


Sounds like you know  more about it than I do, which wouldn't be hard!  I don't really know the history here -  ...At first I wasn't aware that this wasn't available on DVD.  Good to hear there is a DVD release pending!

So yeah, the B-  well....I wanted to like it more!  I was so excited to see it that it cut in front of "Y Tu Mama Tambien" ! It didn't quite live up to expectations, but it is a pretty amazing acheivement.  I wish I was more familiar with the filmography, and for that matter then city itself.  I might have been more entertained by it .  Anyways.  I'm totally planning a rewatch - this time with a lifelong Long Beach friend of mine, hoping for a blow by blow commentary



Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 03, 2010, 04:01:40 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #25

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Y Tu Mamá También
(2001, Alfonso Cuarón)

I love going into a film like this with really no notions of the plot or who was in it.  It was a lot of fun watching this story unfold and go it directions I didn't anticipate.  I loved the flirtful relationship of our three leads and that dialog was just spot on.  Gael García Bernal again has a superb performance for my marathon.  No idea he was in this.  (I take this spoiler-free thing pretty seriously).  He has this knack of playing cool and vulnerable at the same time - very smart but never arrogant.

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I was really impressed by the road trip sequences - like a gorgeous travelogue of back-country Mexico.  Cuarón has this adoring lens on the countryside and it's people, making me wonder if he himself is a product of this world.  It seems he has a pretty cynical outlook on the future for these people and these areas.  

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What can separate a good film from a great film are little scenes like the stop where they were asked to "donate to their princess".

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I kinda half expected the film to wrap up once they got to their destination, but there was great bonus stuff where they hung out, meet this family, and hang out for awhile.  As you drive away from home the layers of the protective cocoon you build up around you starts to peel away one by one.  I guess the climax (umm literally and figuratively I suppose) was pretty well telescoped from the beginning, but it does put a punctuation mark on this theme.

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The voice over...huh...very interesting.  I like that choice.  I haven't watched this a second time.  I'm curious about the specific content of that text and how it was chosen.  In some cases we are given what might be considered useless backstory on parents and upbringing...but I have a suspicion this is not by mistake.

We have this interesting thread of death, which might take a rewatch to fully understand.  There is this matter-of-factness to it that seems to underline its permanence and inevitability.  This is so much breaking down of traditions, right down to the "rules" being broken.  

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As in all great summer coming of age stories, our characters all change for ever.  But here it's not done with some tidy conveniences.  Here it is rather poignant and far reaching.  

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I do think very fondly of this film.  I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of gratuitous sex in movies but I do appreciate and totally get what Cuarón was doing with it here.  Certainly it had a major point to the story, and was no more meant for titillation than Eyes Wide Shut.  But just as earlier in my marathon with Apocalyto, I do find that being somewhat uptight about such things is often at odds with being a film lover.  I'm figuring out how to compartmentalize this.

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All-in-all, a fun film.  I'm finding myself missing these characters already.  Another fine film for the marathon :)

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Verdict:
Beautiful to look at, great characters, and interesting thought-provoking themes.

Grade: B+  

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on February 03, 2010, 08:33:07 AM
Should be a good double feature with American Pie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on February 03, 2010, 12:16:39 PM
Glad you liked LAPI, ferris! I agree that it gets a bit messy, as Anderson gets a little carried away with himself, but I found it to work on several levels. First of all, it works as a sorta love-letter to the city from the director. He may get carried away at times, but you can tell it's because of his passion for the city and what it means to him. Secondly, it's a great case study of how things are portrayed in movies, and the trends and evolutions that affect them through history. I have no personal investment or familiarity with LA, but using it as a microcosm to study film in general was both a lot of fun and pretty insightful, I thought.

Nice writeup on YTMT also. Pretty pictures! I recently watched in my own marathon for the first time, and pretty much agree with your thoughts on it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 03, 2010, 01:04:09 PM
Glad you liked LAPI, ferris! I agree that it gets a bit messy, as Anderson gets a little carried away with himself, but I found it to work on several levels. First of all, it works as a sorta love-letter to the city from the director. He may get carried away at times, but you can tell it's because of his passion for the city and what it means to him. Secondly, it's a great case study of how things are portrayed in movies, and the trends and evolutions that affect them through history. I have no personal investment or familiarity with LA, but using it as a microcosm to study film in general was both a lot of fun and pretty insightful, I thought.

Nice writeup on YTMT also. Pretty pictures! I recently watched in my own marathon for the first time, and pretty much agree with your thoughts on it.

Thanks Melvil.  I have a friend that is going to just adore LAPI.  Hoping to get even more insights from him!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on February 03, 2010, 01:36:36 PM
Should be a good double feature with American Pie.
Jason Biggs and Stifler should have made out.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on February 03, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
13-year-old roujin would've probably not liked that, but 21-year-old roujin would be all over that.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Holly Harry on February 03, 2010, 04:54:46 PM
13-year-old roujin would've probably not liked that, but 21-year-old roujin would be all over that.

This is all the evidence we need that homosexuality is a choice made in college.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: mañana on February 03, 2010, 05:20:35 PM
13-year-old roujin would've probably not liked that, but 21-year-old roujin would be all over that.
You've grown.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: roujin on February 03, 2010, 05:23:32 PM
Should be a good double feature with American Pie.
Jason Biggs and Stifler should have made out.

American Pie 2 is the Miami Vice of the American Pie franchise.

I own it (on vhs!)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 05, 2010, 09:23:09 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #26

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25th Hour
(2002, Spike Lee)

"I'm Irish, I don't get drunk...I know exactly what I'm sayin' "

Whoa. This was a big surprise.  When I first put this in and realize it was 2 hours 14 minutes I really was kinda dreading it being kinda a slow pretentious emotion wrangler.  Instead it was truly fascinating from scene to scene.  I loved this film right through to the awesome Springsteen song in the closing credits.

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There is so much I want to talk about with this that I really can't get into without discussing spoilers.  However of the stuff we can discuss:  the 9-11 imagery, the (undoubtedly polarizing) montage sequences, and some little slight-of-hand jump cuts -- much of this really REALLY worked for me.  Eh, some of those little cuts were silly.  Anyone who has seen this will probably have immediately come to mind
one dolly shot that takes place in the upstairs of a bar.  I can see how someone would roll their eyes....but I giggled with delight.  Loved that. 


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This is only my second Spike Lee movie - -Inside Man being the first - which didn't do a thing for me.  I've seen bits and pieces of Do the Right Thing, enough to make me want to watch the rest.  Nevertheless I don't enough to have a finger on what "makes" a Spike Lee joint.  This film certainly makes we want to investigate more.

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So the performances...we've got Ed Norton, who has never made me hate him or love him.  He seems quite appropriate here.  Philip Seymour Hoffman is as dependable as you'd expect.  Rosario Dawson (although having a tough time looking 18 in one of the flashback sequences) is very nice.  But my two big takeaways are the fabulous performances by Anna Paquin and Brian Cox.  I love Paquin's line: "That's what Grandmother's do...they die!".  Barry Pepper --eh---not so much.  Hey I think I know New Yorkers.  Half of my wife's said of the family works within 5 blocks of the World Trade Center and all their names end in "I".  Pepper was just a bit on the nose for me.  I

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I loved the ending.  I can't talk about it except to just repeat I love what Spike does here.

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There are little annoyances through the film - I can't say it was perfect, but while the closing credits played I was going through my snapshots of the film.  The music and imagery were so effective, I immediately ran through and repeated the song and started back at image one.

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This is a great tribute to the city.  I'm listening to David Benioff's commentary (author of the novel, and the screenplay writer).  Interesting to hear that the book was written long before 9-11.  Spike Lee was adamant about fitting the imagery in the film without making really much commentary about it.  For a man who is so quickly associated with the city, it would be disingenuous of him to not address it in some way.  I couldn't think of a better way to handle it.  Benioff's dialog is really great in places.

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Verdict:
Loved It. Probably the biggest surprise of the marathon so far. Perhaps top 100 material

Grade: A+ 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 05, 2010, 09:32:20 PM
Ok I am going to get this to watch this week.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 05, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
Awesome Ferris. I'm really glad you dug it. A favourite of mine as well. I happened to love Pepper in the role. You've gotta admit, he get's ALL of the best lines. Most of 'em laugh out loud funny ;D

I think my favourite moment from the film is this scene:
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You actually see a friendship fall apart over the course of one conversation. And it's capped off with one the colder, nastier insults ever delivered, and a hell of a slap in return. It kinda takes your breath away!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 05, 2010, 10:49:56 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #27

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A Prairie Home Companion
(2006, Robert Altman)

Twenty minutes in I was really having a blast with this, and I was thinking this would be a highlight of the marathon.  I had a couple good belly laughs and I was really diggin' the down-home tone and knee slappin' performances.  I was enjoying the witty banter between Meryl Streep and Tilly Tomlin and was really looking forward to where it would go next.  And for the most part it kept on doing the same thing.  Which was...fine....but all-in-all just resulted in a nice evening of entertainment and not a whole lot more.  It's one that would be a good safe pick when you have to watch a movie with your folks or whatever.  

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The setup is, we have an on-stage live recording of an AM folk music show in this vintage theater in St. Paul.  They've been running this show for decades, but this night is different.  All signs point to this being the last night their vintage theater will be open - most likely this will be the last performance they'll all have together.  The film centers around the performances .  I'm not generally a fan of this type of music but I found myself having a a lot of fun with it - seeing guys like Woody Harrelson and Meryl Streep whoop it up without a hint of irony. Garrison Keillor (the actually PHC guy) is our MOC and is fun to watch here.  

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There is a lose narrative thread about a woman dressed in white, and another plot of a visiting Texan.  I think the film was trying to something pretty poignant there and it missed the mark by a bit.  But all in all, not much to complain about.  

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It might be an interesting rorschak test to see if audiences thought the Minnesotans portrayed here were being honored or ridiculed in this.  I saw hints of both.  I'm not from the mid-west but seem to find myself pulling for them.  Probably a Coen brothers thing, ya?

So anyways I suppose if you've heard reviews of this and are interested, it's likely pretty close to what you're expecting.  It was a nice light film in a marathon that has featured some pretty intense material over the months.  Glad I watched it.  


Verdict:
Harmless entertainment - a lot of fun and pretty humorous in places but not a whole lot more.

Grade: B

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: facedad on February 05, 2010, 10:50:57 PM
I wish I knew how to appreciate 25th Hour as much as you and everyone else.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 05, 2010, 10:53:42 PM
Awesome Ferris. I'm really glad you dug it. A favourite of mine as well. I happened to love Pepper in the role. You've gotta admit, he get's ALL of the best lines. Most of 'em laugh out loud funny ;D

That is a powerful scene.  Yeah - he does have the great lines.  He was good under that arch in that scene toward the end.

Speaking of the end, I'm totally thinking oh no, no don't end this way, no don't end this way, don't end this way..........ahhhhhhh...whew!!!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on February 05, 2010, 11:10:41 PM
Eh...Maybe someday I'll give 25th Hour another chance, but it's not likely. I really didn't like it the first time.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: Bondo on February 05, 2010, 11:53:34 PM
It might be an interesting rorschak test to see if audiences thought the Minnesotans portrayed here were being honored or ridiculed in this.  I saw hints of both.  I'm not from the mid-west but seem to find myself pulling for them.  Probably a Coen brothers thing, ya?

I'm from the Twin Cities originally and PHC is one of our cultural touchstones. It is definitely not something that ridicules Minnesotans. It is just very...earnest. I should also point out that having a background knowledge of the show does help make some of the stuff make more sense. I can see the lady in the white coat noir side-story in particular not making sense without having heard a few Guy Noir skits.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 06, 2010, 08:53:31 AM
Awesome Ferris. I'm really glad you dug it. A favourite of mine as well. I happened to love Pepper in the role. You've gotta admit, he get's ALL of the best lines. Most of 'em laugh out loud funny ;D

That is a powerful scene.  Yeah - he does have the great lines.  He was good under that arch in that scene toward the end.

Speaking of the end, I'm totally thinking oh no, no don't end this way, no don't end this way, don't end this way..........ahhhhhhh...whew!!!

About the ending, the first time I watched it I actually thought that it was open ended and that maybe he didn't go to jail and that all that nice stuff is what actually happened. I missed the fact that in that very last shot they drive past the GW bridge, thereby sealing his fate. Anyways, I went on thinking that until the 2nd or 3rd time I watched it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: ferris on February 06, 2010, 04:53:17 PM
It might be an interesting rorschak test to see if audiences thought the Minnesotans portrayed here were being honored or ridiculed in this.  I saw hints of both.  I'm not from the mid-west but seem to find myself pulling for them.  Probably a Coen brothers thing, ya?

I'm from the Twin Cities originally and PHC is one of our cultural touchstones. It is definitely not something that ridicules Minnesotans. It is just very...earnest. I should also point out that having a background knowledge of the show does help make some of the stuff make more sense. I can see the lady in the white coat noir side-story in particular not making sense without having heard a few Guy Noir skits.

You're right, I hadn't heard of Guy Noir before seeing this.  Probably would have helped
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Post by: ferris on February 06, 2010, 04:59:14 PM
Awesome Ferris. I'm really glad you dug it. A favourite of mine as well. I happened to love Pepper in the role. You've gotta admit, he get's ALL of the best lines. Most of 'em laugh out loud funny ;D

That is a powerful scene.  Yeah - he does have the great lines.  He was good under that arch in that scene toward the end.

Speaking of the end, I'm totally thinking oh no, no don't end this way, no don't end this way, don't end this way..........ahhhhhhh...whew!!!

About the ending, the first time I watched it I actually thought that it was open ended and that maybe he didn't go to jail and that all that nice stuff is what actually happened. I missed the fact that in that very last shot they drive past the GW bridge, thereby sealing his fate. Anyways, I went on thinking that until the 2nd or 3rd time I watched it.

Oh funny.  I can see that.  It was only obvious to me because I had enough familiarity with the area.  Come to think of it, you're right - that's laying a big assumption on audience around the country (and world for that matter) that would have no way of knowing really.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 11:06:58 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #28

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The Man Who Wasn't There
(2001, Joel and Ethan Coen)

"...and through all of it, we cut the hair"

You come to expect a certain level of quality going into a Coen Brother's film.  You know the cinematography will be impeccable, the characters will be memorable, the dialog witty and at it's core will be a member of the fringe of society getting in over his head in an effort to better his life in a way that might be seen by the audience to be foolhardy at best.  So in this case, did the Coen brothers deliver yet again?  And did the sum of its parts add up to a collective masterpiece like Fargo or No Country?  

I'll answer Yes to the first question and a qualified No to the second question.

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The film is set in late 1940's Santa Rosa, California and follows a 'second chair barber', Ed Crane, who's going through the motions of a uninspiring career and a listless marriage.  By chance he learns about an "investment opportunity".  He has no aspirations of wealth, but infatuated with the simple thought of something new he makes some pretty poor decisions to take advantage of the opportunity.  As you might expect, these decisions have unintended consequences...

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The film is set in the noir genre.  Noir is not a favorite genre of mine, since by it's very design it keeps us an arm's distance from the characters.  But here it is as effective use of the style as I've ever seen.  I not only tolerated the internal monologue voice overs stagy performances, I quite enjoyed them.  

I can't go much longer without talking about the Black and White.  It was filmed in color and converted to black and white in post.  Roger Deakins is the cinematographer, and although his shooting style is fairly minimalistic throughout, the effect really worked for me.  I loved the black and white.  It made me wish the old great black and white films could be as clean as this was.  Instead of going on and on I'll let some of the screenshots speak for themselves:

Cinematography:
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The themes were pretty interesting in this film, especially in light of A Serious Man released late last year.   Here, the Coen's introduce the uncertainty principle with respect to the concept that our perception of an event has the potential to effect the event we're perceiving.  But again, like in A Serious Man, there seems to be a slightly-less-than arbitrary force at work (Karma?) that leads people to their ultimate redemption or punishment.  

This would be a great double feature for an in depth film discussion with those interested in film and curious about the basic concepts of quantum mechanics.  Such a discussion could lead to quite a treatise on Coen brother's themes in films as a whole.  

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I was a bit uninspired by the performances.  Hmmm... maybe that's too strong a way to say it. It's the noir style that doesn't really let me in their heads where I want to be...but I'll admit that's not the point.  My favorite characters were Big Dave, played by James Gandolfini) and Birdy Abundas, played by a surprisingly good Scarlett Johansson.  I'm neither a hater or apologist for Billy Bob Thornton.  I have to say it's hard to think of anyone more perfect for that role.  I'd hate to imagine a Coen regular like John Turturro or George Clooney trying to pull off his scowlly oppressed persona.  BTW: I challenge anyone to watch this film, then Slingblade and A Simple Plan in succession and tell me BBT isn't a great actor.

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"It's just a bowl of Goddam cherries. Congratulations on the goddamn cherries!"

I've often heard the debate about whether the Coen brothers make fun of their characters. Whether or not this is the case is not the point with me.  For me I'm just highly appreciative that they have such curiousity about small town America.  They either work entirely outside the framework of its broad comfortable archtypes or they take them to their logical extremes.  And it's more interesting than just another film set in LA.  At one point a "big city lawyer" says to Ed, "I'm an atourney, you're a barber.  You don't know anything."  when in fact, it that instance, he's the only one who does.   This sums up the theme of the entire movie - and for me the Coen's take on their subjects.

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Verdict:
Great Coen's take on the noir genre.   Gorgeous cinematography and the sharp dialog we've come to expect.  But in the end still felt a bit lacking

Grade: A-

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: 'Noke on February 19, 2010, 11:19:21 AM
Glad you liked it Ferris, it's a very good movie. Thoughts on Tony Shalhoub as Freddy Riedenschneider?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 19, 2010, 11:21:23 AM
I forgot how awesome that film looks. I need to see it again. Great review.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on February 19, 2010, 11:26:54 AM
Great review.  I need to watch it again, especially after seeing A Serious Man.  But I thought it was a mediocre film-- but the cinematography, wow...
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: Bondo on February 19, 2010, 11:29:56 AM
I haven't seen The Man Who Wasn't There since the first time I watched it in 2001. It made my top 20 that year (a fantastic year for film) so obviously I enjoyed it. That said, I don't remember much about it so I should probably revisit it at some point. I'd put it in the upper half of the Coen filmography.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 12:04:22 PM
Glad you liked it Ferris, it's a very good movie. Thoughts on Tony Shalhoub as Freddy Riedenschneider?

I haven't seen more than 2 minutes of Monk, but I know enough about the character to know he was completely different as Freedy Riedenschneider.  I did really like the character and wish I got to know him better.  It's kinda a hllarious role, and you have to hit the marks just right so as to not be too campy or to undersell the schtick.  To that end he did a marvelous job.  I didn't really have any other take-away impressions beyond that.

I do remember him from back on that (dreadful early 90's) Wings sitcom, where he was written pretty cardboard.  He wasn't given much to do. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 12:06:04 PM
Great review.  I need to watch it again, especially after seeing A Serious Man.  

I forgot how awesome that film looks. I need to see it again. Great review.

Thanks Steve and Clovis.

I think after watching A Serious Man, this film would reward another viewing.  Their themes seem to intertwine and give light as to how they manfiest themselves among the rest of the Coen canon.
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Post by: smirnoff on February 19, 2010, 12:16:24 PM
BTW: I challenge anyone to watch this film, then Slingblade, A Simple Plan, and Bad Santa in succession and tell me BBT isn't a great actor.
:)

Great review. Like you, noir has never really been my thing, but your positive review has me curious. What do you think ferris, would I like it?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
Inspired by Melvil's Top 100 marathon, I thought I'd start posting a ranking list of movies so far in my marathon.

Just a reminder, the point to the exercise of doing this marathon is to craft my Top 50 movies of the decade list.  I felt I was ill-prepared, even though I had about 36 films alread selected before I started this marathon.  

So here are the rankings so far, with a Mendoza line for what will likely make the cut and what won't.  Of course, these are completely inconsistent with the grades I gave things.  I give out a lot of A minuses it seems.

Ranked best to worst:
1-Spirited Away
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
3-Children of Men
4-United 93
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6-The Science of Sleep
7-In the Bedroom
8-Yi Yi
9-25th Hour
10-Fantastic Mr Fox
11-The Lives of Others
12-The Fountain
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
13-Y Tu Mama Tambien
14-Mulholland Drive
15-The Man Who Wasnt There
16-High Fidelity
17-City of God
18-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
19-Pan's Labyrinth
20-Joyeux Noel
21-A Prairie Home Companion
22-The Hurt Locker
23-I'm Not There
24-Los Angeles Plays Itself
25-Apolcalypto
26-Rivers and Tides
27-Brick
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: 'Noke on February 19, 2010, 12:24:45 PM
1-Spirited Away
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
3-Children of Men
5-Enternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Hooray!!

27-Brick

Oh..Well...Um...
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 12:29:43 PM
BTW: I challenge anyone to watch this film, then Slingblade, A Simple Plan, and Bad Santa in succession and tell me BBT isn't a great actor.
:)

Great review. Like you, noir has never really been my thing, but your positive review has me curious. What do you think ferris, would I like it?


I did really enjoy it quite a bit but I think in the end I don't think this will have any lasting hold on me.  As a function of rounding out your Coen's filmography, it's probably wise to catch up with this eventually - because its themes can inform your viewing of their other films.   It's maybe the only Noir film I've ever liked (If you recall I was particularly uninterested in Brick earlier in this marathon) so as a curiosity as to how it can be done in a palatable way - it's certainly worth a viewing.  How's that for a lukewarm recommendation?

27-Brick

Oh..Well...Um...

Yeah.  Sorry about that.   
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 19, 2010, 12:58:46 PM
BTW: I challenge anyone to watch this film, then Slingblade, A Simple Plan, and Bad Santa in succession and tell me BBT isn't a great actor.
:)

Great review. Like you, noir has never really been my thing, but your positive review has me curious. What do you think ferris, would I like it?


I did really enjoy it quite a bit but I think in the end I don't think this will have any lasting hold on me.  As a function of rounding out your Coen's filmography, it's probably wise to catch up with this eventually - because its themes can inform your viewing of their other films.   It's maybe the only Noir film I've ever liked (If you recall I was particularly uninterested in Brick earlier in this marathon) so as a curiosity as to how it can be done in a palatable way - it's certainly worth a viewing.  How's that for a lukewarm recommendation?
Hah, pretty good. :)

I don't think I entirely understand what noir is. For instance it never would've occured to be to call Brick noir. I guess I probably haven't seen enough examples of it to be able to recognize it. To me noir means a black and white film, melodramatic acting, and men with hats.

I'm not too worried about seeing all the Coen films at this point (I disliked A Serious Man waaaay too much) and I'm pretty sure the connective themes will be lost on me. This sounds like a pass for me.

I did love Brick though... go figure.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 01:06:20 PM

I don't think I entirely understand what noir is. For instance it never would've occured to be to call Brick noir. I guess I probably haven't seen enough examples of it to be able to recognize it. To me noir means a black and white film, melodramatic acting, and men with hats.

Yeah I'm not sure I'm quite the expert either.  For what it's worth the first line of the wikipedia page for Brick says "Brick is a 2005 American film noir written and directed by Rian Johnson.".  It's on the internet so it must be true! ;)
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Post by: 1SO on February 19, 2010, 01:27:00 PM
Any comment on the UFO subplot.  That's where the film really lost my attention, and there's a shot in the end dealing with it that I really didn't like.
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Post by: ferris on February 19, 2010, 01:29:37 PM
Any comment on the UFO subplot.  That's where the film really lost my attention, and there's a shot in the end dealing with it that I really didn't like.

I loved that deal at the end but was mildly disappointed that it turned out to be a dream sequence.  I loved that scene where the wife comes to Ed's door with that crazy story.  Just comical how no one even once considers the possibility of him being the murderer and blackmailer
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Post by: Bill Thompson on February 19, 2010, 01:43:38 PM
I loved TMWWT, and unlike you it has stayed with me perhaps the most of any Coens film and when all is said and done is probably their second best film behind only Barton Fink. Great write-up though.
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Post by: Holly Harry on February 19, 2010, 02:08:58 PM
Any comment on the UFO subplot.  That's where the film really lost my attention, and there's a shot in the end dealing with it that I really didn't like.

I think it perfectly fits the movie. The man is something of a human alien.

Love this film. Also, Carter Burwell does a short, but really beautiful piece of music on the soundtrack. Probably my favorite thing he's done.
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Post by: pixote on February 20, 2010, 01:43:19 PM
8-Yi Yi
9-25th Hour

I like seeing Grade A Yi Yi ahead of Grade A+ 25th Hour.  Does this mean Yi Yi has improved in your mind over time?

pixote
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 20, 2010, 08:18:19 PM
8-Yi Yi
9-25th Hour

I like seeing Grade A Yi Yi ahead of Grade A+ 25th Hour.  Does this mean Yi Yi has improved in your mind over time?

pixote

Man those two are so close.  But I do think you're right.  I think Yi Yi has improved for me with time.   However everytime I hear Springsteen's "The Fuse" 25th hour shoots up to #1 again before settling back down to the middle again
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Post by: LeosAxe on February 20, 2010, 08:43:23 PM

Ranked best to worst:
1-Spirited Away

Correct!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on February 20, 2010, 08:44:55 PM

Ranked best to worst:
1-Spirited Away

Correct!

Excellent.  If only I could convince him to put it as his all time #1  ;)
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Post by: ferris on February 20, 2010, 08:59:58 PM

Ranked best to worst:
1-Spirited Away

Correct!

Excellent.  If only I could convince him to put it as his all time #1  ;)

Next time I work on my Top 100 spreadsheet it might crack the Top 10.  It is sitting very very well with me.
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Post by: ferris on February 20, 2010, 09:51:37 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #29

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Capturing the Friedmans
(2003, Andrew Jarecki)

Capturing the Friedmans is a documentary following a husband and wife in Great Neck, NY (on Long Island) and their three sons.  The setting is the late 1980s.  The Father, Arnold is a respected school teacher and gives piano and computer lessons after school in his home.  His relationship with his wife is a bit strained and distant - but perhaps not too much more than many couples with teenage kids.  

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Their normal homelife begins to get torn apart after a mailed package draws the attention of area police. The documentary follows the family, investigators, lawyers and community members as the layers of "issue" get peeled back revealing what could be a truly tragic situation.   However the more we know the more bewilderingly ambiguous things seem to get.  

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We have an uncharacteristically high level of access to the family dynamics due to the fact one of the boys is an amatuer videographer.  The issue tears the family apart and we have a front row seat.  There is indeed tragedy in this.  For the most part, you're left to decide who the real victims are.

Wow. Not sure what to do with this one.  First I come away feeling a bit like I did after watching United 93.  I'm finding a bit disingenuous trying to rank this or treat it like critical art.  Clearly there are real victims here - although I think different people will come away having different impressions of who are the victims.  Frankly I'm saddened for the tragedy of it all.  I appreciated the roller-coaster nature of the way that evidence was brought to light - challenging my expectations and numbing my internal urge to lobby judgement at specific people in the film.  However, I don't think the director completely succeeding in not showing his hand.  The way some secrets were revealed would have dealt a much bigger blow had they been revealed earlier in the proceedings.    

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However, one big takeaway from this is - man the justice system has got to get fixed.  It is a mess and a joke.

So I'm grading this at about a B- and I'm not sure why.  I'm kinda going by feel on this.  But points for getting me curious about the case and mad about how it all seemingly went down.



Verdict:
Tragic subject matter, brings up important issues, not sure it translated into a great movie

Grade: B-

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 20, 2010, 10:57:27 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #30

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Team America World Police
(2004, Trey Parker)

"Freedom isn't free.  No there's a hefty f-in' fee."

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Man I can't tell you how much I was looking forward to this one.  There has been a lot of heavy material in my marathon.  Everything from pedophelia to beheadings.  I was really hoping for something smart, funny, sarcastic, but ultimately pretty lightweight.  And this delivered in spades.   Again, my no-spoilers/no-trailers policy served me well going into this.  The open scenes had me laughing at loud, right down to the logo on the Team America World Police helicopter.
  
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I loved hearing the "how do you do it Gary?  How do you make youself so sober and emotional..." line that's used in one of the Filmspotting bumps.  I'd guessed a long time ago (just by process of deduction) that this was where that line came from, but I was still delighted to hear it here!

There were some great bits early on, and maybe the best love scene I'd ever scene in a movie.  I have to admit - I'm a bit prudish but that really cracked me up.  The bits with the actors started out funny, but they ran with that gag a bit too long.
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The best scenes were the musical montages.  Pretty hillarious, espacially "Freedom Isn't Free" and the Kim Jong Il song.  I've had "America...F-yeah" in my head all day.  Sounds perfectly reminiscent of the music from the old GI Action figure commericals.  Hillarious.

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I was pretty surprised by the creativity in this.  Yeah they made a good joke about the fact they weren't hiding the wires or way people walked and fought.  But the set designs were really pretty cool.  Maybe the best of this marathon so far (which includes Science of Sleep and Fantastic Mr Fox)

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It did start to labor toward the end.  I got interrupted at the scene where Gary is drowning his sorrows in a bar.  During the few hours before getting back to it, I was thinking - man this is good - I hope they don't have to resort to sophomoric pee pee jokes to fill out the last 20 minutes.  When I came back I was immediately treated to a 5 minute puppet puking scene (yawn) and a pssy, cck, ashle rant not once, but twice, then an odd Peal Habor Sucks song.  Odd.  Not terribly funny.  But outside of those few exceptions it held up pretty well through to the end.

So, overall a really nice diversion from the stuff I've been watching lately.  Pretty dang funny - and sadly all too relevant six years later.  


Verdict:
Hillarious, scathing and surprisingly creative.  Schtick nearly carries entire 97 minutes

Grade: B+



New standings:
1-Spirited Away
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
3-Children of Men
4-United 93
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6-The Science of Sleep
7-In the Bedroom
8-Yi Yi
9-25th Hour
10-Fantastic Mr Fox
11-The Lives of Others
12-The Fountain
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
13-Y Tu Mama Tambien
14-Mulholland Drive
15-Team America World Police
16-The Man Who Wasnt There
17-High Fidelity
18-City of God
19-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
20-Pan's Labyrinth
21-Joyeux Noel
22-A Prairie Home Companion
23-The Hurt Locker
24-I'm Not There
25-Capturing the Friedmans
26-Los Angeles Plays Itself
27-Apolcalypto
28-Rivers and Tides
29-Brick

(No Before Sunrise- it's a 90's film ;) )
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: 1SO on February 21, 2010, 01:11:44 AM
Matt Damon!
 ;D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 01:54:27 AM
Matt Damon!
 ;D

:)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 05:38:55 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #31

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Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
(2003, Peter Weir)

"That's the future!  What a  fascinating age we live in!"

I'm a Peter Weir guy I guess.  I have Truman Show in my Top 20 and Dead Poets Society and Fearless in my top 100.  Not sure why I'd been putting off watching Master and Commander.  I'm a bit turned away by period pieces I'd admit, but I love historical drama and especially love the big ship motif.  I was fairly certain I'd come out of this raving about the set design and cinematography, but instead I came out rather bored.

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The film is set in the early 1800s.  Napoleon is at war with the world and England is the only country standing in its way.  In this universe the symbolism of naval defeat is at its zenith.  Russell Crowe is commander of a British ship ordered to the coast of Brazil to wait for and intercept the Acheron, a larger, faster and more deadly warship.  After an early defeat, the outmatched Brits exceed their orders and chase the French around South America in an effort to keep the war from spreading to the Pacific.

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With a criticism of it being boring and a run time of 2:17 you might be surprised to hear me say I wish it were longer.  It tries to be a few things: a character drama, an essay on the nature of man, and an homage to the ship and battles of the past.  But it wasn't enough of any of these.  I would have liked more time admiring the workmanship of the crafts - the way they operate.  I would have liked more exposition about the navigation - especially in the colder harsher climates.  There is one scene where the ship is stuck in doldurms but again all too briefly.  From this film you'd think the mouth of the Amazon and the Galapagos islands were a mere 4 days apart.

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The ship battles were pretty impressive - perhaps as good as any film of it's kind.  Russel Crowe is perfectly fine and occupies the largeness of the role pretty  well.  Again - I keep levying this same complaint.  I have no sense of history with this guy or any of the supporting cast.  We spend a lot of time with the ship's doctor and it is pretty uninspiring.

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Some of the cinematography was great, but those were all too fleeting.

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Wish I had more good to say about this.  I really wanted to like this.  I recognize the difficulty of filming something like this.  And I admire the full scale working ships used in the film. But in the end it wasn't enough.



Verdict:
Had all the elements of a film I'd love - including a director I love, but the end result was just plain boring.

Grade: C+

New standings:
1-Spirited Away
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
3-Children of Men
4-United 93
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6-The Science of Sleep
7-In the Bedroom
8-Yi Yi
9-25th Hour
10-Fantastic Mr Fox
11-The Lives of Others
12-The Fountain
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
13-Y Tu Mama Tambien
14-Mulholland Drive
15-Team America World Police
16-The Man Who Wasnt There
17-High Fidelity
18-City of God
19-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
20-Pan's Labyrinth
21-Joyeux Noel
22-A Prairie Home Companion
23-The Hurt Locker
24-I'm Not There
25-Master and Commander: Far Side of the World
26-Capturing the Friedmans
27-Los Angeles Plays Itself
28-Apolcalypto
29-Rivers and Tides
30-Brick
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 21, 2010, 05:40:54 PM
Probably would have been better if Trey Parker had directed  :-\ Killer title though.

Good review, f man.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 05:42:33 PM
Probably would have been better if Trey Parker had directed  :-\ Killer title though.

Good review, f man.

LOL - you caught that a few seconds before I did :) 

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on February 21, 2010, 05:49:58 PM
That's too bad, especially considering your past love of Weir. But it's okay.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 05:51:25 PM
That's too bad, especially considering your past love of Weir. But it's okay.

Did you like it Corn?  Curious to hear other people's thoughts. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on February 21, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FroHam X on February 21, 2010, 06:16:34 PM
Master and Commander is an amazing brilliant awesome film.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 06:35:04 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 21, 2010, 06:59:48 PM
I agree with ferris. I watched it twice and both times it just never grabbed me and I love me some Weir.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: sdedalus on February 21, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 07:26:58 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

Thanks.  Might head to library tomorrow.  I just finished a slew of books and had nothing at all planned next
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on February 21, 2010, 07:53:34 PM
You're taking revenge on me because I didn't like The Science of Sleep, aren't you?  One of the best films of the past decade!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 07:58:16 PM
You're taking revenge on me because I didn't like The Science of Sleep, aren't you?  One of the best films of the past decade!

LOL!  Yep that's it :)



Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 21, 2010, 07:58:30 PM
One of the best films of the past decade!

indeed
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

You just sold me. I love esoteric terminology. :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 21, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

You just sold me. I love esoteric terminology. :)

You have never seen this Smirnoff? You will LOVE it I guarantee. It is totally your kind of movie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 21, 2010, 08:41:51 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

You just sold me. I love esoteric terminology. :)

You have never seen this Smirnoff? You will LOVE it I guarantee. It is totally your kind of movie.

Oh I meant the book. I've actually seen the movie. I saw it way back when it first came out. I have almost no memory of it now, other than it was a positive experience. I was only 18 or 19 at the time though and hardly into film like I am now. I guess I should rewatch it eh :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 21, 2010, 08:44:44 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

You just sold me. I love esoteric terminology. :)

You have never seen this Smirnoff? You will LOVE it I guarantee. It is totally your kind of movie.

Oh I meant the book. I've actually seen the movie. I saw it way back when it first came out. I have almost no memory of it now, other than it was a positive experience. I was only 18 or 19 at the time though and hardly into film like I am now. I guess I should rewatch it eh :)

I am amazed it is not on your top 100 to be honest. It is about sailing, outdoors, huge battles etc. It is made for you. Not to mention it is pure awesome.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 21, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

You just sold me. I love esoteric terminology. :)

You have never seen this Smirnoff? You will LOVE it I guarantee. It is totally your kind of movie.

Oh I meant the book. I've actually seen the movie. I saw it way back when it first came out. I have almost no memory of it now, other than it was a positive experience. I was only 18 or 19 at the time though and hardly into film like I am now. I guess I should rewatch it eh :)

I am amazed it is not on your top 100 to be honest. It is about sailing, outdoors, huge battles etc. It is made for you. Not to mention it is pure awesome.

It's got a priority spot in my queue now ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 21, 2010, 11:08:50 PM
I really like it, but the books are even better.

I'm very curious about these.  Might need to check some of those out and revisit

I'd say give the first one (Master and Commander) a try, if you like it, you'll like the rest of them too.  The nautical terminology can be tough at the beginning, but eventually you get the hang of it.

You just sold me. I love esoteric terminology. :)

You have never seen this Smirnoff? You will LOVE it I guarantee. It is totally your kind of movie.

Oh I meant the book. I've actually seen the movie. I saw it way back when it first came out. I have almost no memory of it now, other than it was a positive experience. I was only 18 or 19 at the time though and hardly into film like I am now. I guess I should rewatch it eh :)

I am amazed it is not on your top 100 to be honest. It is about sailing, outdoors, huge battles etc. It is made for you. Not to mention it is pure awesome.

I LOVE all that stuff too.  I'm puzzled how the film was unable to generate any excitement for me.  I think I just wants more sailing, more outdoors and mor....err...actually the huge battles were pretty friggin awesome.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oldkid on February 21, 2010, 11:59:47 PM
It's funny because I'm not a fan of naval anything-- not even the oranges-- so I thought I'd be bored watching the movie.  However, it instantly became one of my favorites.  I watched it again with my 9 year old a few months ago and we were both so inspired by it that we invented a new version of Risk for it.  I love this film.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 22, 2010, 01:14:27 AM
It's funny because I'm not a fan of naval anything-- not even the oranges-- so I thought I'd be bored watching the movie.  However, it instantly became one of my favorites.  I watched it again with my 9 year old a few months ago and we were both so inspired by it that we invented a new version of Risk for it.  I love this film.

Wow.  I didn't expect to be in the minority on this one.  I obviously missed something!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on February 22, 2010, 08:30:01 AM
I haven't seen it. The only reason I'm saying I haven't seen it is because I think Ferris would enjoy hearing from someone who isn't telling him he's wrong :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 22, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
I haven't seen it. The only reason I'm saying I haven't seen it is because I think Ferris would enjoy hearing from someone who isn't telling him he's wrong :)

:P
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 22, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
I haven't seen it. The only reason I'm saying I haven't seen it is because I think Ferris would enjoy hearing from someone who isn't telling him he's wrong :)
That's what I'm for.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 22, 2010, 01:48:58 PM
Up next Requiem for a Dream

this has had a big asterisk on it for me since the start!

Any thoughts or recommendations before going in?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 22, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
Shoo the kids out of the room. :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on February 22, 2010, 02:10:11 PM
Shoo the kids out of the room. :)

And probably everyone else too.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 22, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
nothing say family time like some DP action.  ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on February 22, 2010, 02:17:48 PM
Spoiler!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Corndog on February 22, 2010, 02:20:32 PM
meh, I watched it with my parents. They didn't really like it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 22, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
Tissues, ferris, a nice box of em.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Melvil on February 22, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
Tissues, ferris, a nice box of em.

 :o

Oh, wait.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 22, 2010, 04:34:17 PM
For tears you adolescent boys!  ::)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 24, 2010, 11:24:23 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #32

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Requiem for a Dream
(2000,  Darren Aronofsky)

"Purple in the morning, blue in the afternoon, orange in the evening...There's my three meals, Mr. Smartypants."


In the past dozen years, no one director has more put a stamp on his visual and directoral brand with his first three films than Darren Aronofsky, His debut film, Pi, established his frantic editing style, with jump cuts, a myriad of lenses, and dreamlike imagery, perfectly accented by Clint Mansell's industrial score.  In 2006, The Fountain showed a somewhat quieter, more mature, but grander themed approach - but upped the ante with incredible visual wizardry.

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Requiem for a Dream fits between those two as a natural bridge between the two - more cohesive and palatable than Pi, but perhaps not quiet as focused an elegant as the Fountain.  

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When you include The Wrestler we have four films that are character studies with narrowed defined themes - narrow, but brought to it's extreme conclusion.  I love the artist following that crack in the ice all the way to end.  And like his other films, Aronofsy manages to do this in a relatively short 102 minutes.  It is very efficient storytelling.  He manages an extremely immersive filmwatching experience.  

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Requiem for a Dream follows the story of Harry (Jared Leto) and his girlfriend Marion (Jennifer Connelly) - small time drug dealers (and big-time addicts!) who's lives begin to unravel as supply tightens around them.  Meanwhile, in a separate story, Jared's mom - excited about the prospect of being on television is intent on losing enough weight to fit in a red dress she plans to wear on the show.  In both cases their obsessions have unintended consequences.  Like all Aronofsky films, the plot is not the main focus here.  It would be too reductive to call this a cautionary tale about drugs.  For me the main draws of the film are Aronofsky's visual style and a one-for-the-ages performance by Ellen Burstyn. (seemed ordinary in the early going but just wowwed me by the end).  Wayans was a pretty big surprise.  I was surprised when I saw his name in the opening credits.  

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"Yeah, like I'm eating eggs and grapefruit at Tavern on the Green"

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Over the years the film earned a reputation as being "a great one-timer" - so heavy and sobering that despite people's affection for the film they might never choose to do a repeat reviewing.  I've heard it called an "endurance test".  For me I was much less challenged by it that I anticipated, even as things really began to devolve in the last act.  Having seen Pi on several occasions I was anticipating a visceral experience!

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So overall - great to have seen this.  I didn't like it enough to get it above my Mendoza line, but I can assure you I'm as excited as ever to see what tricks DA has up his sleeves next.


Verdict:
Aronofsky is working on a whole other plane.  Stylistically "cool".  A thematic endurance test

Grade: B+

New standings:
1-Spirited Away
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
3-Children of Men
4-United 93
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6-The Science of Sleep
7-In the Bedroom
8-Yi Yi
9-25th Hour
10-Fantastic Mr Fox
11-The Lives of Others
12-The Fountain
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
13-Y Tu Mama Tambien
14-Mulholland Drive
15-Team America World Police
16-The Man Who Wasn't There
17-Requiem for a Dream
18-High Fidelity
19-City of God
20-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
21-Pan's Labyrinth
22-Joyeux Noel
23-A Prairie Home Companion
24-The Hurt Locker
25-I'm Not There
26-Master and Commander: Far Side of the World
27-Capturing the Friedmans
28-Los Angeles Plays Itself
29-Apolcalypto
30-Rivers and Tides
31-Brick


Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on February 24, 2010, 11:39:06 PM
Sad to see you didn't love it, but at least you liked it.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 25, 2010, 12:07:13 AM
Sad to see you didn't love it, but at least you liked it.

I LOVE Pi, and I LOVE the Wrestler.  This was very good
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 25, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #33

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Grizzly Man
(2005, Werner Herzog)

"Only Timmy is the boss of all foxes and all bears!!!"

After 32 films I'm getting a bit exhausted of writing reviews.  (I somehow make the process far harder and time consuming than it needs to be and they never came out like I want them.  The transfer from brain to written word is impossible!)

So this review will be short.  May this be no reflection on the film.

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I LOVED THIS.

This is looking like potential Top 100 material.  

Grizzly Man is a documentary by Werner Herzog's about Timothy Treadwell, a young man who spent 13 summers in close contact with grizzly bears in Katmai National Park in Alaska.  In latter summers he brought film equipment with him to help document his experiences.   It's revealed early on that Timothy died in this persuit.  

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The man vs nature motif is right in Herzog's wheelhouse so it's no shock he was attracted to the material   The way Herzog unveils the story of Treadwill reveals a pretty good mastery on how to present such material.  He had over 85 hours of Treadwell's footage to work from, but he also cut in interviews with friends and family.  The result gives us a pretty complete picture of the man and his approach to life and his pursuits.   It was fascinating how Herzog let a few of the interviews go pretty long from two guys that seemed to be putting on a performance for the camera, much like Treadwell was in his last few summers.  Juxtapose that with interviews with a few of the women in his life - one of whom is the keeper of the film footage - including audio from the moment of Treadwell's death (which is handled brilliantly by Herzog).  

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"He finally managed to figure out how to live here forever"----
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"I am the floaty thing's gopher boy!"

It's a pretty well rounded view we get.  No surprise Herzog manages to insert his own commentary about the choas of nature.  It's very interesting to take on this material having a background knowledge of the man who is as interested in Treadwell as filmmaker as bear enthusiast.

There is a lot more to talk about, but I'm starting to get sick of hearing the sound of my own words!

Ok I'm officially interested: Bring on Encounters, bring on Fitzcaraldo, bring on Rescue Dawn




Verdict:
Brilliant and fascinating documentary.  I need to go buy this.  Top 100 material me thinks.

Grade: A+

New standings:
1-Spirited Away (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg360224#msg360224)
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg353998#msg353998)
3-Children of Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg362748#msg362748)
4-United 93 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg367617#msg367617)
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg380885#msg380885)
6-The Science of Sleep (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg394525#msg394525)
7-Grizzly Man (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413807#msg413807)
8-In the Bedroom (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg396737#msg396737)
9-Yi Yi (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg392361#msg392361)
10-25th Hour (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403771#msg403771)
11-Fantastic Mr Fox (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399854#msg399854)
12-The Lives of Others (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398140#msg398140)
13-The Fountain (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg397470#msg397470)
14-Mulholland Drive (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg363379#msg363379)
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
15-Y Tu Mama Tambien (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401959#msg401959)
16-Team America World Police (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411092#msg411092)
17-TThe Man Who Wasn't There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg410361#msg410361)
18-Requiem for a Dream (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413668#msg413668)
19-High Fidelity (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg364427#msg364427)
20-City of God (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg386925#msg386925)
21-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374369#msg374369)
22-Pan's Labyrinth (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg355640#msg355640)
23-Joyeux Noël (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg378077#msg378077)
24-A Prairie Home Companion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403796#msg403796)
25-The Hurt Locker (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399849#msg399849)
26-Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411282#msg411282)
27-Capturing the Friedmans (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411062#msg411062)
29-Los Angeles Plays Itself (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401891#msg401891)
30-Apocolypto (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398532#msg398532)
31-Rivers and Tides: Art of Andy Goldsworthy (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
32-Brick (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg370004#msg370004)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on February 25, 2010, 10:07:17 AM
It's a brilliant movie, a great entryway into Herzog's other work.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on February 25, 2010, 11:02:12 AM
Grizzly Man
(2005, Werner Herzog)
I LOVED THIS.

Verdict:
Brilliant and fascinating documentary.  I need to go buy this.  Top 100 material me thinks.

Grade: A+
I'm so happy you loved this movie so much! It's in my top 100, and I'd say, yes!, do buy it. I own very few films, but I bought this one so I could use it for one of my classes (it generates awesome discussion), and I love it more every time I watch it.

You may know about this already, but if not, here's a great interview that Mark Kermode did with Herzog about Grizzly Man:
Werner Herzog on the Culture Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFaHij5ChQ#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 25, 2010, 11:03:46 AM
Grizzly Man
(2005, Werner Herzog)
I LOVED THIS.

Verdict:
Brilliant and fascinating documentary.  I need to go buy this.  Top 100 material me thinks.

Grade: A+
I'm so happy you loved this movie so much! It's in my top 100, and I'd say, yes!, do buy it. I own very few films, but I bought this one so I could use it for one of my classes (it generates awesome discussion), and I love it more every time I watch it.

You may know about this already, but if not, here's a great interview that Mark Kermode did with Herzog about Grizzly Man:
Werner Herzog on the Culture Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFaHij5ChQ#noexternalembed)

thanks for the link.  I'll check that out for sure.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 25, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
...here's a great interview that Mark Kermode did with Herzog about Grizzly Man:
Werner Herzog on the Culture Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFaHij5ChQ#noexternalembed)

he got SHOT during the interview!!!?  Air gun yeah, but STILL!  holy cow.  Herzog is a cool customer.  Interesting to hear him reaffirm what I took to be his take on the film.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: sdedalus on February 25, 2010, 02:29:59 PM
It was an insignificant bullet.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on February 25, 2010, 02:52:17 PM
...here's a great interview that Mark Kermode did with Herzog about Grizzly Man:
Werner Herzog on the Culture Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFaHij5ChQ#noexternalembed)

he got SHOT during the interview!!!?  Air gun yeah, but STILL!  holy cow.  Herzog is a cool customer.  Interesting to hear him reaffirm what I took to be his take on the film.
Crazy, huh? Herzog is just as interesting as his subjects, I think!


It was an insignificant bullet.
:D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: zarodinu on February 25, 2010, 09:46:05 PM
I love this movie and think its Herzog's best (might be a controversial opinion).  Herzog and Treadwell are made for each other, the brilliant thing is that Treadwell is so out there that people would not buy him as a character if the film was fiction.

This is my single favorite movie to show people who say they hate documentaries, it competes with Mr. Death for my all time favorite documentary.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 27, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #34

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The Bourne Ultimatum
(2007,  Paul Greengrass)

"you know as well as I do, decisions made in real-time are never perfect.  Don't second-guess an operation from an armchair "

I didn't have much optimism that I come out of this film loving it.  The first one was fine, but not really earth-shattering in any way.  I don't remember a thing from the second one - and just never had no interest at all in seeing the third one.  Well if you recall we did a vote back in September of what films I should include in this marathon, and the results indicated y'all were pretty overwhelming in your recommendation for this.  So I finally succumbed and included it in this fourth round of films.  At first I was kinda dreading it, but Ya' know by the time I slipped the disk in the player I had actually gotten pretty excited!  I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched a solid red-blooded American action film -and with Paul Greengrass and the always reliable Matt Damon - this promised to be a cut above!

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So....was it a cut above?  So was your persuation rewarded?  Did I love the film as much as everyone else here seems to?  

Well yes and no.  No doubt the Bourne series has raised the bar big-time on the quality of the action genre - It's cool, unsaturated look, the globe trotting, the super-slick action sequences and the smart, believable action hero. Ultimatum is probably the best of the three films.  So no doubt this is a solid an evening of entertainment.  Matt Damon is great as always (he may be the only actor we have that can slip into any role, any genre and be immediately believable.  Look at this compared to Stuck on You or Oceans 11!).  

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I mean I have a few gripes about the hyper-editing style and some plot devices that just didn't work for me.  But overall it was a pretty fun evening of entertainment.  Is it Best of the Decade material?  Well  - if taken on the craft of filmmaking alone, then yes yes!  But taking overall as a film?  Hmmm....not really.  Not really a knock on the film so much as an indication of my personal tastes.  

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Anyways.  Thanks for the recommendation!  Glad I finally finished the series.  Maybe at some point I'll watch MI-3!


Verdict:
Astounding craftmanship in filmmaking and Matt Damon really solid. Good solid evening of entertainment, but not more than that.

Grade: B+

New standings:
1-Spirited Away (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg360224#msg360224)
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg353998#msg353998)
3-Children of Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg362748#msg362748)
4-United 93 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg367617#msg367617)
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg380885#msg380885)
6-The Science of Sleep (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg394525#msg394525)
7-Grizzly Man (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413807#msg413807)
8-In the Bedroom (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg396737#msg396737)
9-Yi Yi (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg392361#msg392361)
10-25th Hour (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403771#msg403771)
11-Fantastic Mr Fox (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399854#msg399854)
12-The Lives of Others (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398140#msg398140)
13-The Fountain (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg397470#msg397470)
14-Mulholland Drive (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg363379#msg363379)
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
15-Y Tu Mama Tambien (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401959#msg401959)
16-Team America World Police (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411092#msg411092)
17-The Man Who Wasn't There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg410361#msg410361)
18-Requiem for a Dream (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413668#msg413668)
19-High Fidelity (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg364427#msg364427)
21-City of God (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg386925#msg386925)
22-The Bourne Ultimatum (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg414805#msg414805)
23-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374369#msg374369)
24-Pan's Labyrinth (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg355640#msg355640)
25-Joyeux Noël (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg378077#msg378077)
26-A Prairie Home Companion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403796#msg403796)
27-The Hurt Locker (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399849#msg399849)
28-Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411282#msg411282)
29-Capturing the Friedmans (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411062#msg411062)
30-Los Angeles Plays Itself (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401891#msg401891)
31-Apocolypto (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398532#msg398532)
32-Rivers and Tides: Art of Andy Goldsworthy (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
32-Brick (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg370004#msg370004)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 27, 2010, 04:47:49 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #35

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A History of Violence
(2005,  David Cronenberg)

Ok. Take a long look at this kid and tell me who she reminds you of.  It took me about 5 minutes to figure it out.
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If you said Haley Joel Osmett, you're right!  In fact this is Haley's little sister.  
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Although you'll notice they got it wrong in the credits.  Wierd, huh?
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By the way, is the mansion in this the same one in Eyes Wide Shut?  Seemed strangely familiar.

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Well.  Didn't like this film much at all.  There were a few nice shots - in particular a 3-4 minute no-cut scene at the beginning at a hotel that was pretty gripping.  I was thinking perhaps we had another No Country for Old Men on our hands.  But soon we're in this idelic little town with an Hallmark channel score and a blue-color all american.  Big shock that he ends up having a history of violence.  It's oddly plotted, the dialog is poorly written and strangly repetitive.  I have major issues with character motivations throughout this whole thing.   I have lots of individual gripes but I won't go into those unless people ask.  

I do like Cronenburg.  In fact The Fly is in my top 100.  Frankly I'm surprised by his effort here.  Seemed like he had 20 minutes of material here and spread it out to a 95 minutes. 

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Anyways...Overall - big disappointment.  Thought this was going to be something much smarter and challenging.

Verdict:
Compelling in the early going, but just got tedious from there.  A twenty minute story spread out to 90 minutes.

Grade: D

New standings:
1-Spirited Away (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg360224#msg360224)
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg353998#msg353998)
3-Children of Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg362748#msg362748)
4-United 93 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg367617#msg367617)
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg380885#msg380885)
6-The Science of Sleep (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg394525#msg394525)
7-Grizzly Man (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413807#msg413807)
8-In the Bedroom (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg396737#msg396737)
9-Yi Yi (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg392361#msg392361)
10-25th Hour (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403771#msg403771)
11-Fantastic Mr Fox (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399854#msg399854)
12-The Lives of Others (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398140#msg398140)
13-The Fountain (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg397470#msg397470)
14-Mulholland Drive (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg363379#msg363379)
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
15-Y Tu Mama Tambien (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401959#msg401959)
16-Team America World Police (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411092#msg411092)
17-The Man Who Wasn't There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg410361#msg410361)
18-Requiem for a Dream (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413668#msg413668)
19-High Fidelity (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg364427#msg364427)
21-City of God (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg386925#msg386925)
22-The Bourne Ultimatum (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg414805#msg414805)
23-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374369#msg374369)
24-Pan's Labyrinth (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg355640#msg355640)
25-Joyeux Noël (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg378077#msg378077)
26-A Prairie Home Companion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403796#msg403796)
27-The Hurt Locker (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399849#msg399849)
28-Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411282#msg411282)
29-Capturing the Friedmans (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411062#msg411062)
30-Los Angeles Plays Itself (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401891#msg401891)
31-Apocolypto (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398532#msg398532)
32-Rivers and Tides: Art of Andy Goldsworthy (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
33-A History of Violence (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
34-Brick (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg370004#msg370004)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Junior on February 27, 2010, 04:49:32 PM
I am D for disappointed in you.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: FLYmeatwad on February 27, 2010, 05:28:33 PM
Sure you addressed this before, but since this was given a D and you gave Brick a C-, does that mean that Brick has gotten worse in your mind over time?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on February 27, 2010, 06:04:55 PM
Totally disagree Ferris, like as much as it is possible for one human being to disagree with another one. Oh well...
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 27, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
Sure you addressed this before, but since this was given a D and you gave Brick a C-, does that mean that Brick has gotten worse in your mind over time?

I think that C- was just me trying to be nice - I know a lot of people love that one around here. But certainly if there were a choice between one or the other, I'd take HOV. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 27, 2010, 06:29:16 PM
Totally disagree Ferris, like as much as it is possible for one human being to disagree with another one. Oh well...

You pretty high on History of Violence then?  You were the one that did the Cronenburg marathon last year, right?  Does the rest of the filmography inform this one in some way that I missed?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on February 27, 2010, 06:33:56 PM
Totally disagree Ferris, like as much as it is possible for one human being to disagree with another one. Oh well...

You pretty high on History of Violence then?  You were the one that did the Cronenburg marathon last year, right?  Does the rest of the filmography inform this one in some way that I missed?


Not really, I mean, it kind of does, but it also doesn't. Violence has always been a big thing with Cronenberg, so has sex, and AHOV is another example of him exploring violence and how it relates to sex. However, pre-Crash Cronenberg was more interested in exploring the cerebral aspect of these issues, and more. Post-Crash Cronenberg is more about exploring the physical and just under the surface, think primal, aspects of those issues, and more.

I think AHOV explored violence, sex, America, the media, the modern family and more as they appear just under the surface, and I think Cronenberg did a masterful job with all of these issues. As well I thought the dialogue in the film was superb, and the direction was some of the best of Cronenberg's career.

Actually, it was Edgar who did the Cronenberg marathon, but I am probably the biggest Cronenberg booster on these boards, so I can understand why you would think it was me.  :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 27, 2010, 06:39:00 PM

Not really, I mean, it kind of does, but it also doesn't. Violence has always been a big thing with Cronenberg, so has sex, and AHOV is another example of him exploring violence and how it relates to sex.

I really appreciated that WTF scene on the stairs.  I can totally see what you mean there.  I would have liked to explore more of that.  (ha nice double-entendre there) We'll have to agree to disagree on the dialog...
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: oneaprilday on February 27, 2010, 10:23:14 PM
Have you seen Eastern Promises, ferris?
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 28, 2010, 01:48:26 AM
Have you seen Eastern Promises, ferris?

Nope - I haven't. 
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 28, 2010, 10:43:38 AM
I was cold on Violence as well ferris. It almost felt like a made for TV movie to me. Very very bland material that even a generous helping of style couldn't make interesting.

Eastern Promises was another disappointment for me. Not much interest in future Cronenberg projects at this point.

I hope you get around to MI3 ferris. It's more of a fun action movie.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on February 28, 2010, 11:52:44 AM
Eastern Promises was another disappointment for me. Not much interest in future Cronenberg projects at this point.

The first part is disheartening since I consider EP Cronenberg's best picture. The bolded part signals the end of our friendship, it was nice knowing you Noff.  ;D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on February 28, 2010, 11:58:44 AM
I was cold on Violence as well ferris. It almost felt like a made for TV movie to me. Very very bland material that even a generous helping of style couldn't make interesting.

Eastern Promises was another disappointment for me. Not much interest in future Cronenberg projects at this point.

I hope you get around to MI3 ferris. It's more of a fun action movie.

Violence is the best graphic novel adaptation ever (far better than Watchmen). I agree with Bill, EP is one of Cronebergs best films (Dead Ringers is my fav though).  
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on February 28, 2010, 12:01:01 PM
I was cold on Violence as well ferris. It almost felt like a made for TV movie to me. Very very bland material that even a generous helping of style couldn't make interesting.

Eastern Promises was another disappointment for me. Not much interest in future Cronenberg projects at this point.

I hope you get around to MI3 ferris. It's more of a fun action movie.

Violence is the best graphic novel adaptation ever (far better than Watchmen). I agree with Bill, EP is one of Cronebergs best films (Dead Ringers is my fav though).  

I prefer AHOV to Watchmen, but not by much, however as far as best GN adaptations go my money remains with Road To Perdition. Really though, in my mind you can't go wrong with Watchmen, AHOV or Perdition.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: Bondo on February 28, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
Sin City called to say hello.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: smirnoff on February 28, 2010, 01:57:30 PM
Eastern Promises was another disappointment for me. Not much interest in future Cronenberg projects at this point.

The first part is disheartening since I consider EP Cronenberg's best picture. The bolded part signals the end of our friendship, it was nice knowing you Noff.  ;D

I'll make it up to you. Maybe when I get around to seeing Letters From Iwo Jima. :)


I was cold on Violence as well ferris. It almost felt like a made for TV movie to me. Very very bland material that even a generous helping of style couldn't make interesting.

Eastern Promises was another disappointment for me. Not much interest in future Cronenberg projects at this point.

I hope you get around to MI3 ferris. It's more of a fun action movie.

Violence is the best graphic novel adaptation ever (far better than Watchmen). I agree with Bill, EP is one of Cronebergs best films (Dead Ringers is my fav though).  

I suspect that comparison wasn't chosen at random. ;D
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on February 28, 2010, 04:04:01 PM
I'll make it up to you. Maybe when I get around to seeing Letters From Iwo Jima. :)

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: 'Noke on March 01, 2010, 04:59:58 AM
I liked AHOV but it wasn't great. I kinda loved that final scene though.

Bourne is way better then you let on Ferris. I agree with what you loved and disagree with what you didn't.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Colleen on March 01, 2010, 08:54:03 AM
Just saw your review of Master and Commander.  So disappointed that you didn't much care for it.  It's certainly in my top 20 of the decade if not top 10.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 01, 2010, 11:51:56 AM
I really like History of Violence until Hurt appears. Then I just scratch my head.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on March 01, 2010, 01:35:50 PM
I really like History of Violence until Hurt Viggo Mortensen appears. Then I just scratch my head.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Bill Thompson on March 01, 2010, 03:17:20 PM
I really like History of Violence until Hurt Viggo Mortensen appears. Then I just scratch my head.

Viggo is like the best part, well one of many. :)
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 12:22:30 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #36

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Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring
(2003,  Ki-duk Kim)


"GATE GATE PARAGATE PARASAMGATE BODHI SVAHA"

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Thus is the final phrase of The Heart Sutra, who's abstract themes hold the key to the depth and symbolism of this film.  I'm a sucker for art that is in someway the product of an artist's attempt at redemption for youthful regrets.  Ki-duk Kim directs himself in a film about the stages of life that somewhat seems to mirror his own path - when looking at his filmography to this point.  

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The film follows a young boy at a Korean Mononstary as he grows through several stages of this life.  Circumstances have him leave and return as he grows through adulthood and beyond.  What starts as very still, reflective and beautifully rendered portrait of a quiet pious life turns into an poigniant statement about regret and enlightenment.  

As an outdoorsy guy, I love the thought of hanging out at this place for weeks and months at a time.  Watching this film takes me there however briefly.

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What's pretty cool in the early going. I'm trying to negotiate what kind of film this is going to be.  The director gives you several harbingers of doom early on - a snake creeps behind a rock, a poison leaf is mixed with medicinal herbs, a child rows a boat with a rock tied around his waist.  It's as if your normal movie-going sensors are being tripped to think that each of these is going to lead to dire consequences.  But they don't.  But the uneasiness is set and gets carried with you though the film through it's final reel.  Very effective.  I recall the same thing in Yi Yi earlier in this marathon.  It is pretty effective and bringing you into the film and subverting my western expectations (if that is a fair characterization)


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At the surface some of the symbolism is heavy handed, especially as bookends are tied together, but I think there is much to peel back from all the nuance in between.  The structure lends itself to some deeper study.  

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As you can see from some of the stills, this a very pretty film.  The cut I had was pretty grainy tho - and the score was a bit noisy. Does anyone know if this is getting a blu-ray release?  This might be enough to get me to finally make the jump (ha.  I've said that before.  I'm too much a cheapskate!)

(http://jeffstatt.smugmug.com/Professional/GooseEggRounds3and4/snapshot00036/802675391_K9nV9-M.png)

I really enjoyed this film, and look forward to delving deeper into this film's meaning and more work from this director.

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Verdict:
Loved spending time in meditation with this film.  Beautifully rendered and poigniant.  I highly recommend :)

Grade: A
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 02:51:25 AM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #37

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My Winnipeg
(2007,  Guy Maddin)

After about 5 minutes of this, I decided I'd much rather be Charlie Kaufman's therapist than Guy Maddin's.  Listen dude.  I'm glad you got a chance to get this all off your chest.  Hope you feel better.  Sorry about you mom, the sleep walking and the forks and all that.  Next time you want to move though, make two calls: mover and a relator.  It's not rocket science.   Hope your new home works out for you.  

I was tempted to shut it off several times, but I perservered and watched the whole film.  I get the whole surrealist meets Roger and Me vibe - and his self-proclaimed "new genre".  I dug the hockey arena stuff, and the horses where pretty interesting.  Outside of that it just wasn't my thing. Good news Brick fans!


Verdict:
Movies like these are why I could never be a film professor.  

Grade: D
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 02:55:05 AM
New standings:
1-Spirited Away (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg360224#msg360224)
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg353998#msg353998)
3-Children of Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg362748#msg362748)
4-United 93 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg367617#msg367617)
5-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg380885#msg380885)
6-The Science of Sleep (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg394525#msg394525)
7-Grizzly Man (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413807#msg413807)
8-In the Bedroom (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg396737#msg396737)
9-Yi Yi (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg392361#msg392361)
10-Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg417543#msg417543)
11-25th Hour (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403771#msg403771)
12-Fantastic Mr Fox (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399854#msg399854)
13-The Lives of Others (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398140#msg398140)
14-The Fountain (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg397470#msg397470)
15-Mulholland Drive (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg363379#msg363379)
---------Likely Top 50 of Decade cut off---------------------
16-Y Tu Mama Tambien (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401959#msg401959)
17-Team America World Police (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411092#msg411092)
18-The Man Who Wasn't There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg410361#msg410361)
19-Requiem for a Dream (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413668#msg413668)
20-High Fidelity (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg364427#msg364427)
21-City of God (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg386925#msg386925)
22-The Bourne Ultimatum (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg414805#msg414805)
23-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374369#msg374369)
24-Pan's Labyrinth (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg355640#msg355640)
25-Joyeux Noël (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg378077#msg378077)
26-I'm Not There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374744#msg374744)
27-A Prairie Home Companion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403796#msg403796)
28-The Hurt Locker (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399849#msg399849)
29-Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411282#msg411282)
30-Capturing the Friedmans (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411062#msg411062)
31-Los Angeles Plays Itself (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401891#msg401891)
32-Apocolypto (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398532#msg398532)
33-Rivers and Tides: Art of Andy Goldsworthy (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
34-A History of Violence (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
35-Brick (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg370004#msg370004)
36-My Winnipeg (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg417563#msg417563)

Three films to go:
- The Wind that Shakes the Barley
- The Squid and the Whale
- Before Sunset
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: sdedalus on March 05, 2010, 03:25:20 AM
I don't know where you got that image, but there's only one "e" in "Winnipeg".

Maybe you watched some other movie, which is why you didn't like it . . . .
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: 'Noke on March 05, 2010, 10:36:42 AM
I can't wait to see us argue over movies I love in the Miyazaki marathon.  :D

Seriously, your two least favourites are both movies I love.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 05, 2010, 10:46:47 AM
It didn't do anything for me either ferris. I think I found it quite a bit easier to get through though, being that at least I could identify the places.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on March 05, 2010, 11:08:53 AM

After about 5 minutes of this, I decided I'd much rather be Charlie Kaufman's therapist than Guy Maddin's.  Listen dude.  I'm glad you got a chance to get this all off your chest.  Hope you feel better.  Sorry about you mom, the sleep walking and the forks and all that.  Next time you want to move though, make two calls: mover and a relator.  It's not rocket science.   Hope your new home works out for you.  
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I hate saying this, because it sounds so condescending, but I think you kind of missed the point (which is understandable because it's pretty well hidden :D ). It's only very loosely autobiographical. Most of it is made up for cinematic effect. It's a docu-fantasy as some have called it.

I think you may have taken it a little to "on-the-nose".

Nonetheless, even though it is on my top 100, I can totally understand people not liking it. There are some movies where hating it makes someone insane imo (Before Sunset, 12 Angry Men, etc) and some movies where loving it kind of makes you insane (My Winnipeg).

You really cant just step into a Guy Maddin film without having seen some of his other films and some of the classic films he is riffing off.

Too bad you didnt like it more though Ferris. :(

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 11:34:02 AM

After about 5 minutes of this, I decided I'd much rather be Charlie Kaufman's therapist than Guy Maddin's.  Listen dude.  I'm glad you got a chance to get this all off your chest.  Hope you feel better.  Sorry about you mom, the sleep walking and the forks and all that.  Next time you want to move though, make two calls: mover and a relator.  It's not rocket science.   Hope your new home works out for you.  
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I hate saying this, because it sounds so condescending, but I think you kind of missed the point (which is understandable because it's pretty well hidden :D ). It's only very loosely autobiographical. Most of it is made up for cinematic effect. It's a docu-fantasy as some have called it.

Oh really?  there wasn't actually a canadian tv series called "Ledgeman"?   ;)

(I'd hope you'd give me a bit more credit than that by this point Clovis)

Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on March 05, 2010, 11:40:30 AM

After about 5 minutes of this, I decided I'd much rather be Charlie Kaufman's therapist than Guy Maddin's.  Listen dude.  I'm glad you got a chance to get this all off your chest.  Hope you feel better.  Sorry about you mom, the sleep walking and the forks and all that.  Next time you want to move though, make two calls: mover and a relator.  It's not rocket science.   Hope your new home works out for you.  
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I hate saying this, because it sounds so condescending, but I think you kind of missed the point (which is understandable because it's pretty well hidden :D ). It's only very loosely autobiographical. Most of it is made up for cinematic effect. It's a docu-fantasy as some have called it.

Oh really?  there wasn't actually a canadian tv series called "Ledgeman"?   ;)

(I'd hope you'd give me a bit more credit than that by this point Clovis)




I knew you knew some it was fake, I was just pointing out that most of it is actually fake.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 12:12:08 PM
I knew you knew some it was fake, I was just pointing out that most of it is actually fake.

I'm pretty sure I get what he was going after.  It did take a period of adjustment because I had expected a "whimsical documentary".  :o But even after that, I have to admit I just wasn't all that interested....I actually enjoy when a director takes his pretention to a logical extreme - like in Pi or Science of Sleep - but for some reason this just didn't hook me into his style or themes at all. 

I always feel bad ripping on a film then finding out it's someone's favorite!  Sorry about that!
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: Clovis8 on March 05, 2010, 12:17:38 PM


I always feel bad ripping on a film then finding out it's someone's favorite!  Sorry about that!

No problem. Like I said I understand why people would not like it.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 12:29:58 PM
I can't wait to see us argue over movies I love in the Miyazaki marathon.  :D

Seriously, your two least favourites are both movies I love.

Yeah but what about my two favorites?  :)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: mañana on March 05, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
Maddin is definitely not for everybody, ferris. Too bad you didn't dig it.

BTW, I haven't posted in here in a while but I have been reading along...this is a very cool marathon.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 02:03:19 PM
Maddin is definitely not for everybody, ferris. Too bad you didn't dig it.

BTW, I haven't posted in here in a while but I have been reading along...this is a very cool marathon.

Are his other films similar in style?  I recall hearing an extensive interview with him for the "Saddest Music in the World" on one of the podcasts and I found the guy to be a really compelling storyteller and pretty worldly and articulate in his answers.   For the life of me I can't remember where I heard this now.....I was on a plane while I was listening if that helps ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: sdedalus on March 05, 2010, 02:07:48 PM
See what you think of this one:

GUY MADDIN - The Heart of the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4JmeXXRmZg#)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 05, 2010, 02:08:17 PM
Maddin is definitely not for everybody, ferris. Too bad you didn't dig it.

BTW, I haven't posted in here in a while but I have been reading along...this is a very cool marathon.

Are his other films similar in style?  I recall hearing an extensive interview with him for the "Saddest Music in the World" on one of the podcasts and I found the guy to be a really compelling storyteller and pretty worldly and articulate in his answers.   For the life of me I can't remember where I heard this now.....I was on a plane while I was listening if that helps ;)

Yep they are the same. Winnipeg is sort of his masterpiece, having refined his technique with his earlier films. All use the old style of black and white cinematography, and silent film editing. Since you hated this one, I really doubt you will like his other films. You should try though.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: mañana on March 05, 2010, 02:12:32 PM
Maddin is definitely not for everybody, ferris. Too bad you didn't dig it.
BTW, I haven't posted in here in a while but I have been reading along...this is a very cool marathon.
Are his other films similar in style?  I recall hearing an extensive interview with him for the "Saddest Music in the World" on one of the podcasts and I found the guy to be a really compelling storyteller and pretty worldly and articulate in his answers.   For the life of me I can't remember where I heard this now.....I was on a plane while I was listening if that helps ;)
My Winnipeg is probably his most accessible film, so if that one didn't take it's probably not worth putting too much more effort into him. But maybe check out The Heart of the World, it's short and on YouTube.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 05, 2010, 02:16:14 PM
See what you think of this one:

 The Heart of the World

I love that the message of this film is basically the same as Inglourious Basterds! :D
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 02:29:41 PM
Maddin is definitely not for everybody, ferris. Too bad you didn't dig it.
BTW, I haven't posted in here in a while but I have been reading along...this is a very cool marathon.
Are his other films similar in style?  I recall hearing an extensive interview with him for the "Saddest Music in the World" on one of the podcasts and I found the guy to be a really compelling storyteller and pretty worldly and articulate in his answers.   For the life of me I can't remember where I heard this now.....I was on a plane while I was listening if that helps ;)
My Winnipeg is probably his most accessible film, so if that one didn't take it's probably not worth putting too much more effort into him. But maybe check out The Heart of the World, it's short and on YouTube.

Well "accessibility" wasn't really my issue with it.  Whatever the word is for the opposite of "assessibility" - let's use "quirk" for lack of better word - there's good "quirk" and bad "quirk".   I think I actually prefer to see his particular brand of "quirk" less mainstream if that makes sense.  I'll check out that clip
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Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 02:30:33 PM
I'm a bit bummed that everyone has jumped on my hate for My Winnipeg instead of my love for SSFWS.  I'd MUCH rather talk about that film!!  :)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 05, 2010, 02:58:16 PM
You should still watch Dracula: Pages from a Virgin's Diary though. It's quite possibly the best vampire film of the decade.
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Post by: ferris on March 05, 2010, 03:03:46 PM
Maddin is definitely not for everybody, ferris. Too bad you didn't dig it.
BTW, I haven't posted in here in a while but I have been reading along...this is a very cool marathon.
Are his other films similar in style?  I recall hearing an extensive interview with him for the "Saddest Music in the World" on one of the podcasts and I found the guy to be a really compelling storyteller and pretty worldly and articulate in his answers.   For the life of me I can't remember where I heard this now.....I was on a plane while I was listening if that helps ;)
My Winnipeg is probably his most accessible film, so if that one didn't take it's probably not worth putting too much more effort into him. But maybe check out The Heart of the World, it's short and on YouTube.

Well "accessibility" wasn't really my issue with it.  Whatever the word is for the opposite of "assessibility" - let's use "quirk" for lack of better word - there's good "quirk" and bad "quirk".   I think I actually prefer to see his particular brand of "quirk" less mainstream if that makes sense.  I'll check out that clip

Heart of the World!  See now 5 minutes of that was far more interesting that any 5 minutes of My Winnipeg!  Thanks for that link.  

I have to admit HotW does kinda inform MW a bit now.  Still doesn't make me like it.  But understand it a bit more?  Yeah for sure
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 05, 2010, 03:06:19 PM
I'm a bit bummed that everyone has jumped on my hate for My Winnipeg instead of my love for SSFWS.  I'd MUCH rather talk about that film!!  :)

Heh, can't help you. Haven't seen it :)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: 'Noke on March 05, 2010, 03:47:52 PM
I can't wait to see us argue over movies I love in the Miyazaki marathon.  :D

Seriously, your two least favourites are both movies I love.

Yeah but what about my two favorites?  :)

Damn, I can't stay mad for long Ferris. (Actually I was only a bit annoyed for two seconds anyways but..) I absolutely adore four of your top 5 movies. I've just never seen United 93.
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Post by: smirnoff on March 05, 2010, 08:27:51 PM
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (Ki-Duk Kim, 2003)

First of all I hope you don't mind me posting my review for this film in your thread, ferris. It seemed like the most appropriate place for it considering it was your review that got me to sit down and watch it tonight.

What sold me on it was the images of the isolated monastery and this line:
I love the thought of hanging out at this place for weeks and months at a time.  Watching this film takes me there however briefly.

You also said that you loved spending time in meditation with this film. Now that I've seen it for myself I know just how you feel.

The not so subtle symbolism was, for me, absolutely critical. I don't take too well to films that are wholly cryptic and SSFW&S gave me rock solid anchor point. From there I could explore to my heart's content without risk of going adrift.

There was a few times the film that had me worried. I thought "oh no, what's this movie going to turn into?". I was enjoying myself so much already I wasn't sure I wanted anything to happen. Buuuuut it all worked out in the end.

You pretty much said it all already ferris. I just wanted it to add that you're right. :)

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IMDB link (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374546/)
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Post by: ferris on March 06, 2010, 05:00:44 PM

Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (Ki-Duk Kim, 2003)

First of all I hope you don't mind me posting my review for this film in your thread, ferris. It seemed like the most appropriate place for it considering it was your review that got me to sit down and watch it tonight...

You also said that you loved spending time in meditation with this film. Now that I've seen it for myself I know just how you feel.

The not so subtle symbolism was, for me, absolutely critical. I don't take too well to films that are wholly cryptic and SSFW&S gave me rock solid anchor point. From there I could explore to my heart's content without risk of going adrift.

There was a few times the film that had me worried. I thought "oh no, what's this movie going to turn into?". I was enjoying myself so much already I wasn't sure I wanted anything to happen. Buuuuut it all worked out in the end.

You pretty much said it all already ferris. I just wanted it to add that you're right. :)



This totally made my day!  :)

So glad you liked it.  That's pretty awesome.
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Post by: zarodinu on March 06, 2010, 05:16:16 PM
Spring Summer is awesome and my second favorite Kim Ki Duk.  The cinematography alone is worth the price of admission, rarely has nature been filmed so well.  I am sorry you didn't care for Maddin, though I can't blame you, its probably not everyone's cup of tea. 
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 10, 2010, 10:17:23 PM
Ok.  I've finished my last three films of the marathon:
- The Squid and the Whale
- The Wind that Shakes the Barley
- and Before Sunset

It's been really hard to find time to write up reviews here cuz I've been on the road like 3 of the last five weeks.  But I'll give you this:

One verdict is:
"Practically perfect. Incredible script. Perfect ending.  This I will cherish in my Top 100 for years"   A+

One verdict is:
"Dull and predictable.  But redeemed itself a bit toward the end.    C

And one verdict is:
"Very well made.  Beautiful cinematography and nice performances, but I'm sorry to say rather forgettable in the end"  B

Can you guess which is which?  Or maybe you'd like the chance to pick for me ?  ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: roujin on March 10, 2010, 10:20:30 PM
First is Before Sunset.

Second is Squid and the Whale.

Third is Wind That Shakes the Barley.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 10, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
First is Before Sunset.

Second is Squid and the Whale.

Third is Wind That Shakes the Barley.

I agree this is the order (I hope!)
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 10, 2010, 10:44:22 PM
First is Before Sunset.

Second is Squid and the Whale.

Third is Wind That Shakes the Barley.

I agree this is the order (I hope!)
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Post by: Melvil on March 10, 2010, 11:31:35 PM
Yu-huh.
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Post by: mañana on March 10, 2010, 11:44:15 PM
That's how I would have matched them too.
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Post by: ferris on March 10, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
Five guesses all of them wrong.

just kidding.  They're all correct!!  .  

Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 10, 2010, 11:47:04 PM
So glad you loved Sunset. It is still my favourite film of all time!
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Post by: ferris on March 10, 2010, 11:49:20 PM
So glad you loved Sunset. It is still my favourite film of all time!

I could go on for a half hour just about that last scene.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: mañana on March 11, 2010, 12:01:27 AM
The marathon is over?!  :'(
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 11, 2010, 12:06:15 AM
So glad you loved Sunset. It is still my favourite film of all time!

I could go on for a half hour just about that last scene.

You and me brother. I will defend it to the death as the best ending in film history!
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Post by: ferris on March 11, 2010, 12:06:47 AM
Thanks for asking :)  Yeah (whew!) I believe I've seen all the films for the marathon.

I was entertaining the idea of doing 10 more - some more challenging stuff - but Miyazaki is waiting and I must move on.

I'll write up these last three reviews.  I'll probably only put a lot of effort into Before Sunset.  I hope to do some final awards this weekend and next week unveil my Top 50 of the decade and hopefully start helping to kick off the Filmspotting Best of the Decade stuff

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Post by: mañana on March 11, 2010, 12:09:45 AM
Thanks for asking :)  Yeah (whew!) I believe I've seen all the films for the marathon.
I'm sad to see it go. Nice job.

So glad you loved Sunset. It is still my favourite film of all time!
I could go on for a half hour just about that last scene.
You and me brother. I will defend it to the death as the best ending in film history!
I'm not a big fan of the film but I'll admit that the ending is very good.
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 11, 2010, 12:10:23 AM
So glad you loved Sunset. It is still my favourite film of all time!

I could go on for a half hour just about that last scene.

You and me brother. I will defend it to the death as the best ending in film history!
Well it doesn't have monkeys, Klaus Kinski or epic camerawork so it can't be much of a defense.
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Post by: sdedalus on March 11, 2010, 12:59:38 AM

"Practically perfect. Incredible script. Perfect ending.  This I will cherish in my Top 100 for years"   A+

Yeah, The Wind that Shakes the Barley is really great.
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Post by: smirnoff on March 11, 2010, 06:06:11 AM
I'm glad you did not love Squid and the Whale.

I too am sad to see this marathon draw to a close, but it was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: 'Noke on March 11, 2010, 07:48:47 AM
Ferris! Miyazaki!
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Post by: Corndog on March 11, 2010, 07:56:09 AM
What's with all the less than favorable feelings for The Squid and the Whale? I love that movie.
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Post by: Melvil on March 11, 2010, 11:59:11 AM
Yeah, this marathon has been a lot of fun to follow along with. If I wasn't super excited about your upcoming Miyazaki marathon, I would be sad. :)
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Post by: oldkid on March 11, 2010, 11:57:56 PM
I am both excited about the upcoming marathon and sad to see this one end.  It has been truly epic.  One of the best personal marathons ever, ferris!  We are so proud of your achievement!
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Post by: oneaprilday on March 12, 2010, 12:03:04 AM
Agree with everybody - loved this marathon, ferris, and I'm sad it's over. :(
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Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 02:23:48 PM
Agree with everybody - loved this marathon, ferris, and I'm sad it's over. :(

Thanks OAD and everyone else for all the support and motivation!!  This is the first time I've done anything like this and it was pretty fun for me to do!
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Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 02:33:18 PM
So I know this kinda fealt like it ended already, but I do want to catch up on the reviews I hadn't posted yet.  So bear with me! :)


Goose Egg Marathon Film #38

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The Wind that Shakes the Barley
(2006,  Ken Loach)


"I hope this Ireland we're fighting for is worth it."

The film opens in the early 1920's as Damien O'Donovan (played by Cillian Murphy) is preparing to leave his rural Ireland for London to work as a hospital doctor.  His older brother Teddy (played by Pádraic Delaney), who has long been involved in the Irish Republican Army in the "tan war" against British "occupying troops. Circumstances change as Damien witnesses two brutal acts by British troops before his is set to leave.  What remains is the story of his involvement and relationships in a ragtag force engaging in conflicts fighting for Irish Independence.

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Perhaps the strongest aspect of the film is the cinematography.  The film's on-location shooting in Ireland sets this perfectly in time and place.  It unveils as part travelogue and part history lesson - as the story loosely mirrors the story of Ernie O'Malley - a hero in early 1900's Irish independent activism.  The real-life events leading up to and following an treaty represent a tragic period of conflict between the two great wars of the century - an "undeclared" conflict that ripped families apart, pitched friend against friend and, at times, brothers against brothers.  This film captures this period wonderfully.

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Despite my words of praise, I left a little wanting on character development.  This film hit the high and low points that all films of it's genre do.  However I felt a level of disconnection with Damien and the people in his circle of influence.  Emotional crescendo's upon it's climax rang somewhat hollow.  

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Nevertheless, I can recommend this film.  I would have a hard time imaging someone watching it and not coming away with a very positive experience.

Verdict:
Part travelogue, part history lesson, this film delivers a strong and compelling narrative, but I found it somewhat forgettable in the end.

Grade: B
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Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 02:40:42 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #39

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The Squid and the Whale
(2006,  Noah Baumbach)


I'll start by saying I watched this in probably the some pretty unfair circumstances.  It's been a long week on a business trip and I watched this on the crappy hotel television.  I started it at about 11:00 at night after a long day of some incredible mind-numbing requirements-definitions meetings at work. So all this being said, you probably shouldn't anticipate a glowing review!

The film opens on a reasonably affluent New York family - husband and wife and two boys.  It becomes obvious early on that there is a lot of strain in the marriage and the boys are put in the middle.   What follows is a series of events and decisions made as family secrets are revealed and characters learn about each other and themselves as they cope with dramatically changing circumstances. 

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What is kinda interesting about this film is we really have four characters that are pretty unsympathetic.  The father - who thinks highly of himself -- gets revealed as curiously insecure with with his talent, especially as his successes find themselves further back in the rear-view mirror, and his wife begins to boast some successes of her own.  This insecurity manifests itself in an increasingly inappropriate competitive behavior.   The wife is a bit a shrew.  She finds herself in a place of detachment where she no longer feels as attached or committed to her wife and kids.  She has been the level-headed person in the partnership, but her behavior becomes increasingly self-punishing.  The older boy - socially awkward - has been a strangely steadfast admirer of his father - although being at an age when manage teenager try to separate themselves from their parents.  He's picked up a lifetime of his father's bad habits - which his father seems to encourage!  The youngest has perhaps the strangest but most understood problems.  The family issues have him turning to some mature behavior.  His parents' self-involvement allows this to go unchecked.

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I give the film credit for this bold choice of asking audiences to stay with this family, to take sides and allow their perceptions be changed as the story unfolds.  The story of the older son is one probably a lot of teens can relate to as the shimmer of childhood begins to fade.  I sense that the film is somehow autobiographical as Baumbach is trying to exorcise some ugly periods in his own life - and some watershed moment in his life that changed his outlook forever.

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As much as I think the film is going for, I wish I could say it delivered the emotional punch I was hoping for.  For some reason I just couldn't seem to get hooked into these characters and their problems.  But I can't say it was "bad".  The story had a genuineness to it, and the performances were well acted.  I can totally see someone else having a totally different emotional reaction to this.  However, for me the film was just kinda "there".  Well - if I'm honest - maybe I'm the one that was just "there".

So I suppose at some point I should give it another try.  Anyone want to make a compelling argument?

Verdict:
Not terrible, but not great. Solidly average, but I sense it was trying to be great.

Grade: C+
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 13, 2010, 02:44:57 PM
you tease. Get to the important one! :D
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Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 13, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
you tease. Get to the important one! :D
Yea, I was gonna post something along the lines of: "Clovis just cares about your next post."
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 02:50:32 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #40

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Before Sunset
(2004, Richard Linklater)


"But we're not real anyway, right? We're just, uh, characters in that old lady's dream. She's on her deathbed, fantasizing about her youth. So of course we had to meet again. "

Non-Spoiler Review
When you go into a sequel like this - one for a film (Before Sunrise) so universally admired, it would seem you'd have everything to lose and perhaps nothing to gain.  But it become obvious pretty early on that Linklater and his two leads had handled this project with such dignity and care that not only did the result turn out to be worthy of its predecessor, but very likely its superior.  Early on I analyzed every decision, but I soon got swept up in the story.  Now when I think back - every decision they made was perfect.  There were a lot of unknowns going out of the first film - those who have seen the first one know these well.  Like the characters in the story, the audience has been waiting 9 years to see how things turn out.  They turn out....well....I can't tell you that.  You're going to have to see to find out.

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Spoiler Review

I didn't really have a review to write per se, but I wanted to highlight a few things that were really kinda cool

1) I love the way they revealed how the "6 month" thing turned out: First with him saying he hadn't made it, later sheepishly admitting he had with all forgiveness - but later revealing how angry he actually was how it turned out.  So real.. So non-Hollywood.

2) She also had her moment of emotion.  I love the way the regret and anger came out - in particular how she was portrayed in the book.  Again it is the opposite of how a normal movie script might have conveniently hadn't it.

3) I love the way they revealed the marriage - some 30 minutes in and after he had sorta-kinda made a pass at her.  It was her trump card and she played it at that moment of her own self-vulnerability.

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4)I love the fact that the conversation was at a much higher level of maturity than in the first film - and they acknowledged it.  The characters were in different places in their lives. The concerns are different, heavier but no more rational, or less hypocritical in nature.  Doesn't this make you just want to see them again in about 10 years to meet again?  .  

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5)  It's cool how they addressed the sex thing from the first movie - taking something that might have been ambiguous and adding ambiguity to it before answering it head-on.  What fun.
 
6) The final scene - so much to like.  You HAD to end it that way.  There is no other way to do.  But here 's a few other comments about that scene:
- her song?....was actually good.  I was kinda expecting "smelly cat".  Nice attention to detail there.
- He's laying back in that futon listening. His pose is so relaxed and his look so longing.  All the while fiddling with his wedding ring.  Loved that.

7) Last note: the scene on the boat - the wind and the blouse.  Ok - so there's this hoax women have played on men since the dawn of time that they are blissfully unaware of wardrobe physics.  She chose that shirt:  the character and the actress - they both new what they were doing - and BOTH of them knew that his character was married.  Think about that!

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8) And what about this moment:  So awesome.

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Loved this film.  I could go on and on.  Wish I saw this when it first came out so I could chew someone's ear off about it for an hour.  Gonna have to buy this.

Verdict:
Practically perfect.  Brilliant script.  Figures to have a long life on my top 100 for years to come.

Grade: A+
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 13, 2010, 02:55:17 PM
Love the review. You are so right about the little things.

It is the most truthful film about love I have ever seen and maybe will ever be made.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 13, 2010, 02:57:16 PM

4)I love the fact that the conversation was at a much higher level of maturity than in the first film - and they acknowledged it.  The characters were in different places in their lives. The concerns are different, heavier but no more rational, or less hypocritical in nature.  Doesn't this make you just want to see them again in about 10 years to meet again?
I don't know if I agree that their conversations are more mature, I think it's just more like you say that they are at a different point in their lives and have changed their ways. I'm not at that point and perhaps that's why I didn't find it as good as the first one.

And as for seeing them in ten years...there's been talk of another film. Maybe in 2014?
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 13, 2010, 03:01:53 PM

4)I love the fact that the conversation was at a much higher level of maturity than in the first film - and they acknowledged it.  The characters were in different places in their lives. The concerns are different, heavier but no more rational, or less hypocritical in nature.  Doesn't this make you just want to see them again in about 10 years to meet again?
I don't know if I agree that their conversations are more mature, I think it's just more like you say that they are at a different point in their lives and have changed their ways. I'm not at that point and perhaps that's why I didn't find it as good as the first one.

And as for seeing them in ten years...there's been talk of another film. Maybe in 2014?

I think it is impossible to appreciate Sunset fully unless you are at least in your 30s.
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Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 03:03:04 PM
Goose Egg Marathon Film #41 - BONUS!

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Encounters at the End of the World
(2008, Werner Herzog

"I think that's a logical place to find each other...This place almost works as a natural selection for people that have this intention to jump off the margin of the map"

Since beginning to record and catalog my thoughts on this forum a year ago, I've begun to notice a trend in the films I love: an obsession with a singular character or theme.  Just from my top 25: Synecdoche, NY, Close Encounters, JFK.  I mean, my #12 is Adaptation - a film about the very concept of obsession.

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In Werner Herzog's documentary Encounters at the End of the World, we have a theme and location mined for all its wealth:  The continent of Antarctica - the good and the bad - the character of the land, and the characters on the land.  Not only do we get to enjoy the subjects of his examination but we are also audience to the character of the obsessor himself: Herzog.  

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I love his choices.  I love that when he interviews a character he keeps the camera running for a minute - so we can see the facade and pretence break down if only fleetingly.  

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I love that he goes to find penguins and  - instead of examining their norms, he analyzes the fringes of their society.  

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Best of all, we get TIME to take it all in.  I feel like I visited there.  As many documentaries as I've seen from Antarctica, how many took a moment to talk about the bowling alley?

Great doc. You can't count me as the newest Herzog fan

Verdict:
I'm finding myself quite obsessed with the things Herzog gets obsessed about.  Brilliant documentary.

Grade: A+
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 03:06:51 PM
Love the review. You are so right about the little things.

It is the most truthful film about love I have ever seen and maybe will ever be made.

Thanks!  I think you're right about that.  My wife sat with me and loved it too - except she hated the ending  :) (in exactly the right kind of way, if that makes sense)

Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: sdedalus on March 13, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
1) I love the way they revealed how the "6 month" thing turned out: First with him saying he hadn't made it, later sheepishly admitting he had with all forgiveness - but later revealing how angry he actually was how it turned out.  So real.. So non-Hollywood.

It's totally Hollywood.  The same thing is in Love Affair in 1939.  They're supposed to meet in 6 months at the Empire State Building, but she gets in an accident on the way.  They meet again years later, and he's pretending he didn't show up, etc.  It's in the remake, An Affair To Remember and talked about Sleepless in Seattle.

Glad you liked the movie though.  I liked the first one a whole lot more.  I found Ethan Hawke's character to be really unlikeable in this one, but I can't remember all the reasons why.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 13, 2010, 03:23:42 PM
I think it is impossible to appreciate Sunset fully unless you are at least in your 30s.
It's one I'll definitely revisit in my old age. You might just be right.

Love the review. You are so right about the little things.

It is the most truthful film about love I have ever seen and maybe will ever be made.
A Short Film About Love is quite something but I have pretty messed up ideas about love.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: 1SO on March 13, 2010, 03:26:23 PM
The Squid and the Whale
(2006,  Noah Baumbach)

So I suppose at some point I should give it another try.  Anyone want to make a compelling argument?

I'm hoping to watch it tomorrow for my own Marathon.  Maybe I can give you that counterpoint.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: oneaprilday on March 13, 2010, 03:39:54 PM
Encounters at the End of the World
Verdict:
I'm finding myself quite obsessed with the things Herzog gets obsessed about.  Brilliant documentary.

Grade: A+
This review makes me happy. :) I enjoyed the movie so much, too.

Did you get a chance to check out the special features, the interview with Jonathan Demme? Demme seemed a little ill at ease, maybe intimidated by Herzog - not sure - but anyway, I just loved listening to Herzog. He's got such presence; I'm completely fascinated by him.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Bill Thompson on March 13, 2010, 03:41:26 PM

Verdict:
I'm finding myself quite obsessed with the things Herzog gets obsessed about.  Brilliant documentary.

Grade: A+
This review makes me happy. :) I enjoyed the movie so much, too.

Did you get a chance to check out the special features, the interview with Jonathan Demme? Demme seemed a little ill at ease, maybe intimidated by Herzog - not sure - but anyway, I just loved listening to Herzog. He's got such presence; I'm completely fascinated by him.

One of my news favorite things is listening to Kermode talk about Herzog. It's almost always funny and he plays Herzog up as sincere and a loon all at the same time.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 13, 2010, 03:42:32 PM
I love that he goes to find penguins and  - instead of examining their norms, he analyzes the fringes of their society.  
Agreed. That's my favorite moment of the film.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: FLYmeatwad on March 13, 2010, 03:44:13 PM
The Squid and the Whale
(2006,  Noah Baumbach)

So I suppose at some point I should give it another try.  Anyone want to make a compelling argument?

I'm hoping to watch it tomorrow for my own Marathon.  Maybe I can give you that counterpoint.

That final shot is beautiful, enough in a second to make the film fantastic.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 13, 2010, 03:46:44 PM
The Squid and the Whale
(2006,  Noah Baumbach)

So I suppose at some point I should give it another try.  Anyone want to make a compelling argument?

I'm hoping to watch it tomorrow for my own Marathon.  Maybe I can give you that counterpoint.

That final shot is beautiful, enough in a second to make the film fantastic.
One good shot does not a film make.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: FLYmeatwad on March 13, 2010, 03:55:16 PM
The Squid and the Whale
(2006,  Noah Baumbach)

So I suppose at some point I should give it another try.  Anyone want to make a compelling argument?

I'm hoping to watch it tomorrow for my own Marathon.  Maybe I can give you that counterpoint.

That final shot is beautiful, enough in a second to make the film fantastic.
One good shot does not a film make.

You're right, an animated film from last year proved that well enough, but Eisenberg's fantastic performance and the compelling script are more than enough to push this one way over the top.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Melvil on March 13, 2010, 04:05:42 PM
The Wind that Shakes the Barley: I'm kinda glad you didn't love this, because I just can't get excited to see it. :-\

The Squid and the Whale: Yeah, I agree completely. Mediocre, but feels like it thinks it's great, which just makes me disdain it.

Before Sunset: Nice review! Makes me want to watch it again, a lot of the things you mention are also the things I loved about it.

Encounters at the End of the World: I really should check this out. It sounds groovy.

Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 13, 2010, 07:51:26 PM
I found Encounters to be quite boring strangely.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009)
Post by: ferris on March 13, 2010, 08:25:45 PM
GooseEgg Awards - 3rd and 4th Round
(To the extent it makes sense to do awards for a round of 20 films, when previously I'd done it for groups of 10?!- here you go...)

Just a reminder, here are the films from this round: (Before Sunrise was part of this, but I'm not including it in these awards)

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Best Soundtrack
25th Hour
A Prairie Home Companion
Team America World Police
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Winner: Team America World Police

Best Score
Alexandre Desplat - Fantastic Mr Fox
George Fenton - The Wind that Shakes the Barley
Henry Kaiser, David Lindley - Encounters at the End of the World
Clint Mansell - Requiem for a Dream
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winner: Henry Kaiser, David Lindley - Encounters at the End of the World

Best Editing:
Joe Bini - Grizzly Man
Trey Parker - Team America Word Police
Jay Rabinowitz - Requiem for a Dream
Christopher Rouse - The Bourne Ultimatum
Andrew Weisblum - Fantastic Mr. Fox
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Winner - Andrew Weisblum - Fantastic Mr. Fox

Best Screenplay
David Benioff - 25th Hour
Ki-duk Kim - Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring
Richard Linklater, Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke - Before Sunset
Trey Parker, Matt Stone - Team America World Police
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Winner: Richard Linklater, Julie Delpy, Ethan Hawke - Before Sunset

Best Cinematography:
Russell Boyd - Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Roger Deakins - The Man Who Wasn't There
Baek Dong-hyeon - Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring
Emmanuel Lubezki - Y Tu Mama Tambien
Oliver Wood - The Bourne Ultimatum
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Winner: Emmanuel Lubezki - Y Tu Mama Tambien

Best Supporting Actress
Scarlett Johansson - The Man Who Wasn't There
Anna Paquin - 25th Hour
Lily Tomlin - A Prairie Home Companion
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Winner: Lily Tomlin - A Prairie Home Companion

Best Actress:
Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream
Julie Delpy - Before Sunset
Maribel Verdú - Y Tu Mama Tambien
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Winner: Ellen Burstyn - Requiem for a Dream

Best Supporting Actor
Brian Geraghty - The Hurt Locker
Philip Seymour Hoffman - 25th Hour
John C. Reilly - A Prairie Home Companion
Jason Schwartzman - Fantastic Mr. Fox
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Winner: Philip Seymour Hoffman - 25th Hour

Best Actor:
Gael García Bernal - Y Tu Mama Tambien
Matt Damon - The Bourne Ultimatum
Ki-duk Kim - Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring
Billy Bob Thorton - The Man Who Wasn't There
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Winner: Gael García Bernal - Y Tu Mama Tambien

Best Director:
Wes Anderson - Fantastic Mr. Fox
Alfonso Cuarón - Y Tu Mama Tambien
Paul Greengrass - The Bourne Ultimatum
Werner Herzog - Encounters at the End of the World
Spike Lee - 25th Hour
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Winner: Alfonso Cuarón - Y Tu Mama Tambien

Best Scene
- The Penguin - Encounters at the End of the World
- Raised Paw - Fantastic Mr Fox
- Finding the Beach - Y Tu Mama Tambien
- "What if we keep driving?" - 25th Hour
- "I'm So Lonely" - Team America World Police
- A few hours at the Galapagos- Master and Commander: Far Side of the World
- Carving the Heart Sutra  - Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring
- The End - Before Sunset
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Winner: - Carving the Heart Sutra  - Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring

Best Film:
25th Hour
Before Sunset
Encounters at the End of the World
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, and Spring
Grizzly Man
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Winner: Before Sunset
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Clovis8 on March 13, 2010, 08:29:07 PM
YAY for best film!
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: FLYmeatwad on March 13, 2010, 08:55:47 PM
I found Encounters to be quite boring strangely.

You're not wrong, it's pretty bad. Herzog redeems himself with that Cage vehicle though.
Title: Re: Ferris' Goose Egg Marathon: FORTY(!) Great Films from this Decade (2000-2009
Post by: Junior on March 13, 2010, 08:59:08 PM
Any comment on the UFO subplot.  That's where the film really lost my attention, and there's a shot in the end dealing with it that I really didn't like.

I loved that deal at the end but was mildly disappointed that it turned out to be a dream sequence.  I loved that scene where the wife comes to Ed's door with that crazy story.  Just comical how no one even once considers the possibility of him being the murderer and blackmailer

I just watched this (The Man Who Wasn't There) mostly based on your review. I don't think, though, that it was a dream sequence. Is there anything that supports this being the case? It just seemed like some wild and crazy thing that happened to him. The way he handled it seemed perfectly in character, too, which was awesome, dream or no dream.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 13, 2010, 11:13:58 PM
Well done good sir. There's a lot in there I need to see and I've enjoyed reading your thoughts on the films I have seen.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 14, 2010, 10:45:44 AM
As many of you are aware, the point of this marathon was to see as many of the "great" films from the 00's that I could before building a best-of-the-decade list.  My current best-of-the-decade list is already pretty crowded, but I'm hoping to make room for a bunch from this marathon:

Here are the final standings.  The ones above the line are likely going to make my  best-of-the-decade list:

All Time Great
1-Spirited Away (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg360224#msg360224)
2-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg353998#msg353998)
3-Children of Men (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg362748#msg362748)
4-Before Sunset
5-United 93 (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg367617#msg367617)
6-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg380885#msg380885)
7-The Science of Sleep (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg394525#msg394525)
8-Grizzly Man (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413807#msg413807)

Easily among the best of the decade
9-In the Bedroom (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg396737#msg396737)
10-Yi Yi (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg392361#msg392361)
11-Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg417543#msg417543)
12-Encounters at the End of the World
13-25th Hour (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403771#msg403771)
14-Fantastic Mr Fox (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399854#msg399854)
15-The Lives of Others (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398140#msg398140)
16-The Fountain (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg397470#msg397470)

Excellent - Highly Recommended, but just missing the cut
17-Mulholland Drive (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg363379#msg363379)
18-Y Tu Mama Tambien (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401959#msg401959)
19-Team America World Police (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411092#msg411092)

A lot of Positive Elements - Easy to Recommend
20-The Man Who Wasn't There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg410361#msg410361)
21-Requiem for a Dream (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg413668#msg413668)
22-High Fidelity (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg364427#msg364427)
23-City of God (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg386925#msg386925)
24-The Bourne Ultimatum (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg414805#msg414805)
25-The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374369#msg374369)

A good watch.  Enjoyed it
26-Pan's Labyrinth (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg355640#msg355640)
27-Joyeux Noël (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg378077#msg378077)
28-I'm Not There (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374744#msg374744)
29-A Prairie Home Companion (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg403796#msg403796)
30-The Hurt Locker (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg399849#msg399849)

I can see the greatness , just wasn't able to connect to it completely
31-The Wind that Shakes the Barley
32-Master and Commander - The Far Side of the World (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411282#msg411282)
33-Capturing the Friedmans (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg411062#msg411062)
34-Los Angeles Plays Itself (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg401891#msg401891)
35-Apocolypto (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg398532#msg398532)

Just Wasn't for me
36-The Squid and the Whale
37-Rivers and Tides: Art of Andy Goldsworthy (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
38-A History of Violence (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg385138#msg385138)
39-Brick (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg370004#msg370004)
40-My Winnipeg (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg417563#msg417563)

Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 14, 2010, 10:50:31 AM
I'm very sad that Spirited Away wasn't up for any awards, particularly best score. :(

Spirited Away
(2001, Hayao Miyazaki)

6) The score – was AMAZING – I could go on for three paragraphs on this alone.

Did ya just forget?
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Wilson on March 14, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
Spirited Away wins (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374780#msg374780)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 14, 2010, 12:16:54 PM
Spirited Away wins (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374780#msg374780)

Oooooh, I see what's going on now.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 14, 2010, 01:22:16 PM
Spirited Away wins (http://www.filmspotting.net/boards/index.php?topic=6862.msg374780#msg374780)

Oooooh, I see what's going on now.

Yeah - these last set of awards were just for the last 20 of the 40 films. ( I know - kinda silly :) ) Sorry for the confusion

I'm debating on doing a "final" set of awards but I'm worried I've saturated my audience here already!
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: mañana on March 14, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Hey ferris, approximately where on that list is the line between thumbs up and thumbs down? At one point are you not recommending the film?
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 14, 2010, 01:37:01 PM
Hey ferris, approximately where on that list is the line between thumbs up and thumbs down? At one point are you not recommending the film?

I hate to make that line because but there is so much I honor over most of the ones on the list and it's all so very subjective.  But with a gun put to my head I guess the thumbs up / thumbs down line would be between 31 and 32, between Barley and Master and Commander.

As for recommending? that's a bit of a different question.  I think I could recommend ALL of these except History of Violence and The Squid and the Whale.  

EDIT: I went back broke the list out into categories
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 29, 2010, 11:51:44 AM
So.  The purpse of this marathon from the beginning was for me to be able to make a Top 50 of the decade without having seen some of the most obvious and quintessential films.  I've taken this filmspotting BOD Award stuff pretty seriously!

While there are many many more films I wish I could watch before finalizing this list - especially more foreign films, I think I've gotten as close as I get for the BOD Awards voting this month.

So after three weeks of careful evaluation, last minute cramming, rewatches and endless tootling here is my list of the best of the decade.

It's basically just a slideshow put to music.  It's 7 minutes long - that's alot to ask, I understand, so I'll copy this list off in text form to the BOD Forum sometime next week.  But if you think about it this 7 minutes of video took since last September to compile - so maybe I can talk a few people into giving a full watch :)

(Youtube somehow detected the signature on one of the songs I used.  You can close that ad out.  If you don't you won't see the captions on the bottom.)

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Here's the list:  ENJOY :)

Top 50 Films of the Decade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1z4met3l7w#)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 29, 2010, 11:56:07 AM
Arg. I should remember to bring headphones to school. In any case it looks promising just from the preview and the fact you used the Once soundtrack.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 29, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
I kept wondering "what is number 1? Why can't I remember?"...

..... and then "NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"


Otherwise, I love your list dude. And I that slide-show was pretty great :) One day I'll rewatch Synecdoche and you can rewatch Apocalypto (or something) ;)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 29, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
I kept wondering "what is number 1? Why can't I remember?"...

..... and then "NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"


Otherwise, I love your list dude. And I that slide-show was pretty great :) One day I'll rewatch Synecdoche and you can rewatch Apocalypto (or something) ;)

HA HA HA HA.  Well thanks for watching anyways even though the payoff wasn't what you were hoping.  So yeah SNY for Apocalyto....maybe in 2-3 years.  I'm still having nightmares from the first viewing :P
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 29, 2010, 12:22:27 PM
Unless I can find another film that you hated and I loved...
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: StarCarly on March 29, 2010, 12:24:44 PM
I loved your whole list, and the presentation was great! :)

(the only thing that jumps out at me is The Incredibles in your top 10?! Ugh.)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: michael x on March 29, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
Great slideshow.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Melvil on March 29, 2010, 12:27:02 PM
Nice, ferris! It's a great list.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 29, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
I kept wondering "what is number 1? Why can't I remember?"...

..... and then "NOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"


Otherwise, I love your list dude. And I that slide-show was pretty great :) One day I'll rewatch Synecdoche and you can rewatch Apocalypto (or something) ;)
Thanks for the spoilers dude. Sheash. I want my money back! :P
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: 1SO on March 29, 2010, 01:15:42 PM
I loved your whole list, and the presentation was great! :)

(the only thing that jumps out at me is The Incredibles in your top 10?! Ugh.)
I agree.  Love the slideshow.

And The Incredibles is in my Top 10 as well.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 29, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
Great slideshow.

Thanks Michael :)

Nice, ferris! It's a great list.

Glad you liked it.


I loved your whole list, and the presentation was great! :)

(the only thing that jumps out at me is The Incredibles in your top 10?! Ugh.)
I agree.  Love the slideshow.

And The Incredibles is in my Top 10 as well.

Thanks 1SO and SC.  Cool!  For me, it's completely 40-year-old dad wish fulfillment.  Kickbutt Superhero and married to a flexi-Holly Hunter?  Totally works for me:D
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: 'Noke on March 29, 2010, 02:01:16 PM
Ooohh...

I nearly 100% agree with your top ten, and I love the Jonze love.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Corndog on March 29, 2010, 02:02:24 PM
Ooohh...

I nearly 100% agree with your top ten, and I love the Jonze love.

The list just goes to another level with the top ten. Very nice ferris.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 29, 2010, 02:04:34 PM
Ooohh...

I nearly 100% agree with your top ten, and I love the Jonze love.

The list just goes to another level with the top ten. Very nice ferris.

ahh...thanks.  I didn't realize until just this moment that I had two Jonze's in the top 10.  I wrongly or writely think of Adaptation as as Kaufman film
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: smirnoff on March 29, 2010, 02:09:42 PM
Wrongly :)
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Bondo on March 29, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
You had me until the top 10 which is a disaster with 1-2 exceptions  :P
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 29, 2010, 05:00:25 PM
You had me until the top 10 which is a disaster with 1-2 exceptions  :P

You must have watched it backwards by mistake
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: oldkid on March 29, 2010, 07:14:36 PM
ferris, I LOVED your top ten-- all but two of those will be in my top 50 as well. 

You put a lot of work into it-- congrats!

BTW, I'm wondering if perhaps you, me, 'Noke, and Melvil might make our own BFF club...?  I'm not sure who else would be in it, but our tastes seem run alike.
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 29, 2010, 07:48:01 PM
ferris, I LOVED your top ten-- all but two of those will be in my top 50 as well. 

You put a lot of work into it-- congrats!

BTW, I'm wondering if perhaps you, me, 'Noke, and Melvil might make our own BFF club...?  I'm not sure who else would be in it, but our tastes seem run alike.

if we do let's make sure Bondo doesn't get in  :P
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Bondo on March 29, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
if we do let's make sure Bondo doesn't get in  :P

*says in his best veteran detective voice* "I work alone."

For personal reference, of the films in your top 50 I need to see:
Touching The Void
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: oldkid on March 30, 2010, 12:29:39 AM
ferris, I LOVED your top ten-- all but two of those will be in my top 50 as well. 

You put a lot of work into it-- congrats!

BTW, I'm wondering if perhaps you, me, 'Noke, and Melvil might make our own BFF club...?  I'm not sure who else would be in it, but our tastes seem run alike.

if we do let's make sure Bondo doesn't get in  :P

But Bondo is cool is his own... wrong... way  ;D
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 30, 2010, 02:09:29 AM
if we do let's make sure Bondo doesn't get in  :P

*says in his best veteran detective voice* "I work alone."

For personal reference, of the films in your top 50 I need to see:
Touching The Void
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring

Man!  That's pretty good!
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on March 30, 2010, 09:26:58 AM
Speed Racer. Nice.  ;D
Title: Re: Ferris' GooseEgg Marathon: 40 great films from this decade
Post by: ferris on March 30, 2010, 09:47:56 AM
Speed Racer. Nice.  ;D

thought you'd like that.