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Title: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on July 28, 2010, 11:06:03 AM
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Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on July 28, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
Terrence Malick
Kryzstof Kieslowski
Alfred Hitchcock
Sergio Leone
Stanly Krubrick
Sergi Eisenstein
F. W. Murnau
Mike Nichols 
Michael Powell
Darren Aronofsky
Paul Thomas Anderson
Orson Welles
James Gray
Wes Craven

That's a good start, at least.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Mike Shutt on July 28, 2010, 11:51:19 AM
In no particular, order off the top of my head:

Quentin Tarantino
Martin Scorsese
Alfred Hitchcock
Christopher Nolan
Orson Welles
Sergio Leone
Stanley Kubrick
Mel Brooks
Paul Thomas Anderson
Frank Capra
Michael Curtiz
Howard Hawks
Sidney Lumet
Hayao Miyazaki
Terry Gilliam
Andrew Stanton
The Coen Brothers
Charlie Chaplin
David Fincher
Victor Fleming
George Cukor
Spike Jonze
Steven Spielberg
Tim Burton
Clint Eastwood
John Huston
Werner Herzog
David Lynch
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on July 28, 2010, 12:05:27 PM
Neveldine & Taylor.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 1SO on July 28, 2010, 12:17:42 PM
A lot of names getting thrown around.  Many by me, and I'm already drowning in the names spilled over numerous threads.

Above them all, I will only suggest...

S E R G I O   L E O N E

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Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on July 28, 2010, 12:59:03 PM
John Carpenter
Jan Svankmayer
John Lasseter
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 1SO on July 28, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
Since this is an All Time list, I wanted to push for Kurosawa and Hitchcock.

I know you're all thinking that these are two that don't need any help, but I think that's exactly why they're likely to be forgotten.  In order to get Gondry and Nolan and many other currently popular directors a higher rank, it's easy to place these two titans lower than they deserve.

When I was in my early 20's I watched their classics: Seven Samurai, Ran, Rashoman, Yojimbo, Psycho, Rear Window, The Birds, North by Northwest, Vertigo.

Then I dug a little deeper and discovered Throne of Blood, The Hidden Fortress, High and Low, Strangers on a Train, Rope, Shadow of a Doubt, Dial M For Murder

If you remove those films from their filmography, you've still got a lot of great movies to watch.  I only recently saw Drunken Angel, Dreams, Red Beard, Derzu Uzala, Marne, The Lady Vanishes, The 39 Steps.

I urge Filmspotters not to leave these two off their list just because they feel everyone else will give them the proper respect.  They should be on everyone's list, or else I'd love to read the argument in favor of their exclusion.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: StudentOFilm on July 28, 2010, 01:23:14 PM
I spent the morning creating this list, here is my 100 in alphabetical order, I'll rank them at a later date should we end up doing the Top 100 where I can only submit a certain number.

Woody Allen
Pedro Almodovar
Robert Altman
Paul Thomas Anderson
Wes Anderson
Darren Aronofsky
Hal Ashby
Ingmar Bergman
Brad Bird
Danny Boyle
James L. Brooks
Frank Capra
John Cassavetes
Park Chan-Wook
Charlie Chaplin
Ethan Coen and Joel Coen
Francis Ford Coppola
Sofia Coppola
David Cronenberg
Cameron Crowe
Alfonso Cuaron
Frank Darabont
Brian De Palma
Guillermo Del Toro
Jonathan Demme
Clint Eastwood
Atom Egoyan
Federico Fellini
Abel Ferrara
Todd Field
David Fincher
Bob Fosse
Stephen Frears
Costa Gavras
Terry Gilliam
Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu
Paul Greengrass
Christopher Guest
Michael Haneke
Howard Hawks
Todd Haynes
Werner Herzog
Alfred Hitchcock
John Huston
Peter Jackson
Jim Jarmusch
Spike Jonze
Bong Joon-Ho
Neil Jordan
Wong Kar-Wai
Elia Kazan
Abbas Kiarostami
Stanley Kubrick
Akira Kurosawa
David Lean
Ang Lee
Spike Lee
Mike Leigh
Sergio Leone
Richard Linklater
Sidney Lumet
David Lynch
Terrence Malick
Michael Mann
Sam Mendes
John Cameron Mitchell
Hayao Miyazaki
Michael Moore
Errol Morris
Mike Nichols
Christopher Nolan
Alan J. Pakula
Alexander Payne
Sam Peckinpah
Roman Polanski
Sam Raimi
Jason Reitman
Guy Ritchie
David O. Russell
John Sayles
John Schlesinger
Martin Scorsese
Ridley Scott
Jim Sheridan
Kevin Smith
Steven Soderbergh
Todd Solondz
Steven Spielberg
Andrew Stanton
Oliver Stone
Quentin Tarantino
Francois Truffuat
Gus Van Sant
Lars Von Trier
Peter Weir
Orson Welles
Wim Wenders
Billy Wilder
Michael Winterbottom
Zhang Yimou
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on July 28, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
Jean Renoir
Frederick Wiseman
Claire Denis
Krzysztof Kieslowski
Chris Marker
Yasujiro Ozu
Hou Hsiao-hsien
Ermanno Olmi
Agnes Varda
Kim Longinotto
Terence Davies
Francis Ford Coppola
Miklos Jancso
Edward Yang
Hal Hartley
Milos Forman
Ken Loach
Alfred Hitchcock  
Masaki Kobayashi
Masahiro Shinoda
Wong Kar-wai
Wim Wenders
Aki Kaurismaki
Akira Kurosawa
Anthony Mann
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on July 28, 2010, 11:02:49 PM
I have a few directors that I would like to suggest to everyone that were either underrepresented in the Top 100 last year or left off altogether along with the top three films I've seen for each as recommended viewing.

Underrepresented last year:
David Lean (Lawrence of Arabia / The Bridge on the River Kwai / Great Expectations)
Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger (The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp / Black Narcissus / A Matter of Life and Death)
Buster Keaton (Sherlock, Jr. / The General / Our Hospitality)
Yasujiro Ozu (Floating Weeds / Tokyo Story / An Autumn Afternoon)
Frank Capra (It's a Wonderful Life / Arsenic and Old Lace / Mr. Deeds Goes to Town)
F.W. Murnau (Sunrise / The Last Laugh / Nosferatu)
Preston Sturges (The Lady Eve / Sullivan's Travels / The Great McGinty)
John Carpenter (Halloween / The Thing / Assault on Precinct 13)
Nicholas Ray (Johnny Guitar / Bigger Than Life / In a Lonely Place)

Left off completely:
William Wyler (The Best Years of Our Lives / Roman Holiday / The Heiress) - This guy is Top 15 quality
Michael Curtiz (Casablanca / Mildred Pierce / The Adventures of Robin Hood)
Luis Buñuel (The Exterminating Angel / The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie / Belle de Jour)
Douglas Sirk (Written on the Wind / All That Heaven Allows / Imitation of Life)
John Huston (The Treasure of the Sierra Madre / The Asphalt Jungle / The African Queen)
Elia Kazan (A Streetcar Named Desire / On the Waterfront / Splendor in the Grass)
Jacques Tati (Playtime / Mon Oncle / Mr. Hulot's Holiday)
George Cukor (My Fair Lady / The Philadelphia Story / Adam's Rib)
Fritz Lang (M / The Big Heat / Scarlet Street)
Ernst Lubitsch (To Be or Not to Be / Trouble in Paradise / The Smiling Lieutenant)
Zhang Yimou (Raise the Red Lantern / Shanghai Triad / Red Sorghum)
Leo McCarey (Duck Soup / Make Way for Tomorrow / The Awful Truth)
Anthony Mann (Winchester '73 / Bend of the River / The Furies)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: toro913 on July 29, 2010, 11:16:28 AM
In order and at least 3 films seen by each director (John Cassavetes, Jacques Tati, Wim Wenders, Ki-duk Kim, Jean-Pierre Melville, Lars Von Trier, Jean Renoir, Jonathan Demme, Olivier Assayas, Anh Hung Tran, Stanley Donen, Peter Greenaway, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Rian Johnson, Michael Winterbottom, Alan J. Pakula, Todd Solondz would all make the list if I see one more of their movies, unless it's absolutely awful.)

Francois Truffaut
Andrei Tarkovsky
Emir Kusturica
Krzysztof Kieslowski
Milos Forman
Akira Kurosawa
Spike Jonze
Francis Ford Coppola
Hal Ashby
Paul Thomas Anderson
Sofia Coppola
Stanley Kubrick
Terrence Malick
Sidney Lumet
Billy Wilder
Wes Anderson
Pedro Almodóvar
Todd Haynes
Sergio Leone
Ingmar Bergman
Jean-Luc Godard
Luis Buñuel
Bernardo Bertolucci
Werner Herzog
Coen Brothers
Mike Leigh
Wong Kar-Wai
David Lean
Federico Fellini
Roman Polanski
Spike Lee
Woody Allen
Martin Scorsese
Robert Altman
Ming-liang Tsai
Orson Welles
Robert Bresson
Alfred Hitchcock
Mike Nichols
Frank Capra
Hayao Miyazaki
Jim Jarmusch
Chan-wook Park
Brad Bird
Cameron Crowe
Quentin Tarantino
Peter Weir
John Huston
Michelangelo Antonioni
Michael Haneke
Alfonso Cuarón
Jean-Pierre Jeunet
Noah Baumbach
David Lynch
Richard Linklater
Charles Chaplin
Danny Boyle
David Fincher
Andrew Stanton
Arnaud Desplechin
Terry Zwigoff
George Roy Hill
John Landis
Atom Egoyan
Christopher Nolan
Gus Van Sant
Alejandro González Iñárritu
Ridley Scott
John Lasseter
Curtis Hanson
David Gordon Green
David Mamet
Paul Greengrass
Steven Soderbergh
Howard Hawks
Oliver Stone
Jason Reitman
Peter Jackson
David Cronenberg
Alexander Payne
Yimou Zhang
Sam Mendes
John Hughes
Stephen Frears
Steven Spielberg
Michael Mann
Judd Apatow
François Ozon
Guy Ritchie
Kathryn Bigelow
James Cameron
Tom Tykwer
Ang Lee
Darren Aronofsky
Terry Gilliam
David O. Russell
Mel Brooks
Clint Eastwood
Bryan Singer
Ben Stiller
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on September 08, 2010, 05:54:54 PM
I have a better picture of my tentative  directors list after looking at 200 favorite films to hastily rank my top 100.  Updated my list by cutting it down to 25.  Ranked starting with number one at the top but not numbered.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on September 08, 2010, 10:02:02 PM
1. Christopher Nolan
2. Danny Boyle
3. Steven Spielberg
4. Kevin Smith
5. Hayao Miyazaki
6. Richard Linklater
7. M. Night Shyamalan
8. John Cameron Mitchell
9. Gurinder Chadha
10. Edgar Wright
11. Jason Reitman
12. Tom Tykwer
13. Andrea Arnold
14. David Fincher
15. Hirokazu Koreeda
16. Makato Shinkai
17. Ki-Duk Kim
18. Debra Granik
19. Akira Kurosawa
20. Stanley Kubrick
21. Alfonso Cuaron
22. Deepa Mehta
23. Quentin Tarantino
24. Terry Gilliam
25. Billy Wilder
26. Ashutosh Gowariker
27. Robert Altman
28. Baz Luhrmann
29. Jean-Pierre Jeunet
30. Ji-Woon Kim
31. Martin Scorsese
32. Morgan Spurlock
33. Mike Leigh
34. Guillermo del Toro
35. Matt Stone and Trey Parker
36. Gus Van Sant
37. Joel and Ethan Coen
38. Denys Arcand
39. Niki Caro
40. The Wachowskis
41. Judd Apatow
42. Paul Greengrass
43. Martin McDonagh
44. Neil Jordan
45. Ang Lee
46. Michael Moore
47. Mel Brooks
48. Charles Chaplin
49. Nicole Kassel
50. Ramin Bahrani
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Clovis8 on September 08, 2010, 10:17:57 PM


5. Kevin Smith
(Chasing Amy, Clerks II, Dogma, Clerks)



I really like Smith and I love many of his films but I bet anything even he would call you nuts if he ever saw his name on a list as the fifth best director of all time. He basically cant direct which he openly admits.

Great writer to be sure, but director?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on September 08, 2010, 10:40:02 PM


5. Kevin Smith
(Chasing Amy, Clerks II, Dogma, Clerks)



I really like Smith and I love many of his films but I bet anything even he would call you nuts if he ever saw his name on a list as the fifth best director of all time. He basically cant direct which he openly admits.

Great writer to be sure, but director?

If he directs films that one likes doesn't that make him a director one would consider good?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on September 08, 2010, 11:20:40 PM
I really like Smith and I love many of his films but I bet anything even he would call you nuts if he ever saw his name on a list as the fifth best director of all time. He basically cant direct which he openly admits.

Great writer to be sure, but director?

What does it mean to be a great director to you? For me it means "makes great films," end of sentence. It doesn't mean makes technically great films, it doesn't mean has great mise en scene, it doesn't mean anything more than this director has both made some of the greatest films and has a generally high quality of film across his or her body of work (obviously limited by what I have seen). I'm simply not qualified (nor interested) in judging it in any other way. Could Kevin Smith's films all have been even better if he had found someone else to direct, maybe...and that director might be even higher, but that is a counterfactual world and I'm ranking based on this world.

I'm not trying to be combative here, I just don't really understand what criteria other people are using if not this.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FroHam X on September 08, 2010, 11:53:45 PM
I really like Smith and I love many of his films but I bet anything even he would call you nuts if he ever saw his name on a list as the fifth best director of all time. He basically cant direct which he openly admits.

Great writer to be sure, but director?

What does it mean to be a great director to you? For me it means "makes great films," end of sentence. It doesn't mean makes technically great films, it doesn't mean has great mise en scene, it doesn't mean anything more than this director has both made some of the greatest films and has a generally high quality of film across his or her body of work (obviously limited by what I have seen). I'm simply not qualified (nor interested) in judging it in any other way. Could Kevin Smith's films all have been even better if he had found someone else to direct, maybe...and that director might be even higher, but that is a counterfactual world and I'm ranking based on this world.

I'm not trying to be combative here, I just don't really understand what criteria other people are using if not this.

I don't consider him to be a very good director at all. His films do not display any hints of quality direction. He basically sticks a camera on a tripod and films some stuff and then edits it together. I also don't think he is particularly skilled at wrangling actors. He is a great writer, though maybe not in terms of structure. It is his writer's voice that I love to death. Chasing Amy is a beautiful film almost entirely because of the brilliance of its writing. It's direction is serviceable at best. If I were to put together a list of favourite directors, Smith might be on it purely because I love a good number of his films, but if I were to compile the list based on what I think of the quality of the direction as well as personal taste for their movies, Smith wouldn't be there. As such, if I put together a Top 50 Directors list, I'd probably find some median between the two and Smith would end up somewhere around #30. I love Clerks and Chasing Amy, and I cannot ignore that. I love what he brings to his films, but I am also aware that what he brings to his films has everything to do with his writing, and aside from some low-budget charm, has nothing to do with his directing ability.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 1SO on September 09, 2010, 02:11:37 AM
I'm not trying to be combative here, I just don't really understand what criteria other people are using if not this.
10+ years ago I read the script to Dogma a couple of years before the film came out.  It was great.  Reminded me of Peter Jackson's The Frighteners.  Jackson is a great director, and as one he brings a style to his projects that Smith has never demonstrated.

By contrast, I read Basic Instinct before it came out.  Terrible.  Just trash.  But when I saw the film, I was really entertained.  Paul Verhoeven's direction brought a lot to the project.  Made garbage watchable.  Made it fun.

A completed film is the end result of many creative artists, and a director is just one of these.  A great director can elevate a bad script and a terrible director can cripple a great script.  Your argument is that the film and the director should not be separated, which maybe is only the case with Robert Rodriguez who directs, writes, edits, composes the score, helps build the sets and probably makes the coffee.  But even he is at the mercy of Jessica Alba's acting inability.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on September 09, 2010, 08:07:13 AM
I like Smith's work, but as a director he's useless bordering on bad. He has no voice, no style as a director, and in my mind that is necessary for me to consider you a good director. To use an example, someone who people hate, Michael Bay, has a clear style to his direction, I may not like it, but he has a style and he is trying to do something with his camera. Or to go in the other direction, Ozu ever did much with his camera, but he had a style with it, it was obvious that he was saying something and impacting the film with the lack of movement in his camera. Smith is neither of those, he has no reason for just leaving his camera alone, he does so because he's lazy and admittedly doesn't know how to direct.

The answer to why he isn't a good director is obviously Cop Out, or what happens when someone hires Smith for his directorial abilities alone.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on September 09, 2010, 09:58:57 AM
It is like teacher evaluation. Ideally I would have test results before and after they had a class and I could see their value added to the students (and whatever other control measures necessary). I could sort out whether a bad teacher just had a great class that learned in spite of the teacher or whether they had a normal class that benefitted greatly from a good teacher. But with film I don't have that information. I can intuit based on other people's reports, but by and large I don't have the information necessary to break apart film quality from director quality. Maybe I can know that Kevin Smith should be knocked down but there are others on the list who probably should as well but I don't know that they should. I expect M Night is the opposite to some degree. He's a much better director who is held back by M Night the writer.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on September 09, 2010, 11:38:52 AM
If you like his films that's a perfectly good reason to put him on your list, Bondo.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Jared on September 09, 2010, 11:48:54 AM
Guys like a Soderbergh or Welles have their fingerprints all over a film.

Conversely, if a director decides to be "hands off" regarding a lot of the stuff in the movie, as Kevin Smith admittably is, that is his decision and the movie's quality is affected by it (for better or worse).

I dunno, to me, ranking directors is basically a ranking of their filmographies. This is only adjusted if there a performance in a movie or something that heavily influences the quality. I dont know how "involved" in the process half the people on my list get, so its not really something I weigh in much.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FroHam X on September 09, 2010, 11:54:39 AM
I will say that this is a certain rhythm to the direction and editing in Clerks and Chasing Amy that make those films very "Kevin Smith" even without the writing.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on September 09, 2010, 12:36:17 PM
Maybe Kevin Smith's lack of direction could be considered a stylistic choice. Would Clerks have been Clerks if it had long pans and epic crane shots or extreme close-ups or whatever?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Jared on September 09, 2010, 01:22:37 PM
lol. i think the movie cost less than a crane shot.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on September 09, 2010, 03:09:13 PM
It is like teacher evaluation. Ideally I would have test results before and after they had a class and I could see their value added to the students (and whatever other control measures necessary). I could sort out whether a bad teacher just had a great class that learned in spite of the teacher or whether they had a normal class that benefitted greatly from a good teacher. But with film I don't have that information. I can intuit based on other people's reports, but by and large I don't have the information necessary to break apart film quality from director quality. Maybe I can know that Kevin Smith should be knocked down but there are others on the list who probably should as well but I don't know that they should. I expect M Night is the opposite to some degree. He's a much better director who is held back by M Night the writer.

I don't agree with this as you can separate film quality from the quality of the director simply by watching movies and paying attention to what the director does in his/her various films.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on September 09, 2010, 10:55:50 PM
I'm really pleased that Agnes Varda made the last list, but really people, this woman is top 5 material. If you haven't seen any of her films, or only one or two, now is the time to get on it. Daguerreotypes is brilliant, The Gleaners and I is wonderful, and Jacquot de Nantes is probably the most loving tribute one filmmaker has ever made for another.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on September 09, 2010, 11:54:59 PM
I'm really pleased that Agnes Varda made the last list, but really people, this woman is top 5 material. If you haven't seen any of her films, or only one or two, now is the time to get on it. Daguerreotypes is brilliant, The Gleaners and I is wonderful, and Jacquot de Nantes is probably the most loving tribute one filmmaker has ever made for another.
Twenty-four Agnes Varda films, seven of which aren't available on DVD anywhere (and unavailable on VHS in the U.S.) as far as I know, are available to legally watch here (http://mubi.com/cinemas/18).  

I highly recommend those three that FCM mentioned especially the latter two (the last is in my top 100).  Also, highly recommended are Cleo from 5 to 7 (top 100); The Beaches of Agnes (top 100 contender); Vagabond; and Ydessa, the Bears, and Etc. (now on DVD as part of the short films triptych Cinevardaphoto).  Not as highly as the aforementioned films, but recommended: Le bonheur; La pointe-courte; and The Universe of Jacques Demy (not to be mistaken with the great Jacquot de Nantes).  I'm slacking with her other films since I know I have until May to watch them.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: chardy999 on September 10, 2010, 07:56:38 AM
I'm really pleased that Agnes Varda made the last list, but really people, this woman is top 5 material. If you haven't seen any of her films, or only one or two, now is the time to get on it. Daguerreotypes is brilliant, The Gleaners and I is wonderful, and Jacquot de Nantes is probably the most loving tribute one filmmaker has ever made for another.
Twenty-four Agnes Varda films, seven of which aren't available on DVD anywhere (and unavailable on VHS in the U.S.) as far as I know, are available to legally watch here (http://mubi.com/cinemas/18).  

I highly recommend those three that FCM mentioned especially the latter two (the last is in my top 100).  Also, highly recommended are Cleo from 5 to 7 (top 100); The Beaches of Agnes (top 100 contender); Vagabond; and Ydessa, the Bears, and Etc. (now on DVD as part of the short films triptych Cinevardaphoto).  Not as highly as the aforementioned films, but recommended: Le bonheur; La pointe-courte; and The Universe of Jacques Demy (not to be mistaken with the great Jacquot de Nantes).  I'm slacking with her other films since I know I have until May to watch them.

That's a great advertisement. I haven't seen anything from Varda but this website looks inviting.  :D
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on September 12, 2010, 10:57:05 PM
I know Guy Maddin will be high on my list, when is this happening?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on September 12, 2010, 11:16:49 PM
I know Guy Maddin will be high on my list, when is this happening?

My rule is that I need to have seen at least two film for a director to be on my list.
What do you suggest after My Winnipeg?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on September 13, 2010, 12:53:57 AM
What do you suggest after My Winnipeg?
The Heart of the World is a great short.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on September 13, 2010, 01:14:08 AM
What do you suggest after My Winnipeg?
The Heart of the World is a great short.

Careful and The Saddest Music in the World.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on September 13, 2010, 03:11:52 PM
What do you suggest after My Winnipeg?
The Heart of the World is a great short.

Careful and The Saddest Music in the World.

I would also pick The Saddest Music in the World
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Jared on September 21, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
gone through my database of seen films up to the letter "P" in director last names. List is at 63 right now, and it would hurt to axe anyone. Havent even got to some of my favorites yet.  :P
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on September 21, 2010, 05:31:06 PM
1. Ingmar Bergman
2. Satyajit Ray
3. Alfred Hitchcock
4. Akira Kurosawa
5. Werner Herzog
6. Woody Allen
7. Luis Bunuel
8. Kenji Mizoguchi
9. Ming-liang Tsai
10. Francois Truffaut
11. Bela Tarr
12. Ritwik Ghatak
13. Aki Kaurismaki
14. Emir Kusturica
15. Krzysztof Kieslowski
16. Robert Bresson
17. Peter Greenaway
18. Pedro Almodovar
19. Wes Anderson
20. David Lynch
21. Terrence Malick
22. Apichatpong Weerasethakul
23. Roy Andersson
24. Anh Hung Tran
25. Orson Welles
26. Jacques Tati
27. Alain Resnais
28. Federico Fellini
29. Kon Ichikawa
30. Ermanno Olmi
31. Michael Powell (and Emeric Pressburger)
32. James Lee
33. Yasujiro Ozu
34. John Cassavetes
35. Wen Jiang
36. Mikhail Kalatozov
37. Douglas Sirk
38. Yimou Zhang
39. Stanley Kubrick
40. Stan Brakhage
41. Nobuhiko Obayashi
42. Martin Scorsese
43. Hiroshi Teshigahara
44. Anthony Mann
45. Mohsen Makhmalbaf
46. Abbas Kiarostami
47. Howard Hawks
48. Victor Erice
49. David Lean
50. Mikio Naruse
51. Michael Winterbottom
52. Masaki Kobayashi
53. Jean-Pierre Jeunet
54. John Brahm
55. Hayao Miyazaki
56. Anthony Asquith
57. Quentin Tarantino
58. Roman Polanski
59. Michelangelo Antonioni
60. Jacques Demy
61. Max Ophuls
62. Elia Kazan
63. Joel & Ethan Coen
64. Michael Haneke
65. Milos Forman
66. Frank Capra
67. Shohei Imamura
68. Buster Keaton
69. Louis Malle
70. Phil Karlson
71. Pen-Ek Ratanaruang
72. Carl Theodor Dreyer
73. Steven Soderbergh
74. Nicholas Ray
75. Agnes Varda
76. Fritz Lang
77. Sergio Leone
78. Francis Ford Coppola
79. Michael Curtiz
80. Otto Preminger
81. Carol Reed
82. Jean-Pierre Melville
83. Jacques Tourneur
84. Jules Dassin
85. Billy Wilder
86. Henry Hathaway
87. Robert Wise
88. Kar-Wai Wong
89. William Wyler
90. Takeshi Kitano
91. Jane Campion
92. Shunji Iwai
93. Joseph L. Mankiewicz
94. Andrei Tarkovsky
95. Jean Renoir
96. Leo McCarey
97. John Huston
98. George Cukor
99. Sergei Parajanov
100. Eric Rohmer



Notes:

* This was a difficult list.  Top 2 are set in stone, 3-5 are fairly easy, as were 6-25.  Out of the remaining names on the list, I picked 15 who I have a deep fondness for and put them at 26-40.  41-50 was some tough cherry-picking.  For the other 50, I simply sorted by my average Criticker scores.  This is a double-whammy, because it doesn't account for really good directors who I've seen a couple of stinkers by (Rohmer, for instance) or directors with a much larger body of work than the few favorites I've seen (Brahm).  But after #50 I figured there wasn't much point in getting too fussy about it.

* Number of women: 2.  Shame on me.  Aparna Sen would have made it if her last film wasn't so terrible.

* Number of African-Americans: 0.  Double shame on me.  Spike Lee has directed two films I love (Do the Right Thing, Crooklyn) and a bunch that left me cold.  If I discounted his shorts, Charles Burnett would be a good pick, but I don't feel that enthusiastic about him.

* The Dardennes might make this list after I see La Promesse.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on October 03, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
1.Stanley Kubrick
2.Coen Brothers
3.David Lynch
4.Sydney Lumet
5.Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
6.Norman McLaren
7.Billy Wilder
8.Sergio Leone
9.Terry Zwigoff
10.David Cronenberg
11.Jan Svankmayer
12.Kevin Smith
13.Wes Anderson
14.PTA
15.Quentin Tarantino
16.Michel Gondry
17.James Cameron
18.Robert Altman
19.Terrence Malick
20.John Carpenter
21.Hayao Miyazaki
22.Peter Jackson
23.Adam Elliot
24.Martin Scorcese
25.Christopher Nolan
26.John Lasseter
27.Spike Jonze
28.Richard Linklater
29.Nick Park
30.Ron Clements & John Musker
31.Guillermo Del Toro
32.Akira Kurosawa
33.David Fincher
34.Edgar Wright
35.Chuck Jones
36.Stephen Spielberg
37.Jason Reitman
38.Paul Verhoeven
39.Rob Reiner
40.Milos Forman
41.Frank Darabont
42.Werner Herzog
43.Cameron Crowe
44.Gus Van Sant
45.Stephen Soderberg
46.Terry Gilliam
47.Ramin Bahrani
48.Ryan Fleck & Anna Boden
49.John Hughes
50.Robert Zemeckis
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on October 07, 2010, 10:42:05 PM
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20. Robert Bresson

A Man Escaped
The Devil Probably
Lancelot du Lac
Au Hasard Balthazar
Diary of a Country Priest
Pickpocket
Mouchette
L'Argent


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19. Jerry Lewis

The Ladies Man
The Nutty Professor
The Patsy
The Errand Boy
The Bellboy
Cracking Up
The Family Jewels


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18. Sammo Hung

The Magnificent Butcher
Winners and Sinners
Pedicab Driver
Eastern Condors
The Prodigal Son
Wheels on Meals
Carry On Pickpocket
The Victim
Warriors Two
Dragons Forever
Encounters of a Spooky Kind
My Lucky Stars


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17. Michael Mann

Miami Vice
Heat
Thief
Manhunter
Collateral
Public Enemies
The Insider
Last of the Mohicans


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16. Frank Borzage

The Mortal Storm
Little Man, What Now?
Lucky Star
Three Comrades
Man's Castle
Street Angel
Seventh Heaven
Liliom


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15. Pedro Almodovar

All About My Mother
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
Talk to Her
Law of Desire
Volver
Live Flesh
Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!
Matador
The Flower of My Secret
Bad Education


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14. Dardenne Bros

Rosetta
La Promesse
L'Enfant
Le Fils
Lorna's Silence


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13. Frank Tashlin

Rock-a-Bye Baby
Artists and Models
Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?
Cinderfella
Hollywood or Bust
Susan Slept Here
The Disorderly Orderly
The Geisha Boy
Have You Got Any Castles?
It's Only Money
The Girl Can't Help It
You're An Education
The Glass Bottom Boat
Bachelor Flat


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12. Jean-Luc Godard

Pierrot le fou
A Married Woman
Hail Mary
Band of Outsiders
Prenom Carmen
Masculin Feminin
2 or 3 Things I Know About Her
A Woman is a Woman
Week End
Contempt
My Life to Live
Breathless
Slow Motion
Made in U.S.A.
Detective
La Chinoise
Alphaville
Passion
Keep Your Right Up
Le Petit Soldat
Les Carabiniers
Tout va Bien



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11. Hayao Miyazaki

My Neighbor Totoro
Kiki's Delivery Service
Porco Rosso
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Castle in the Sky
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
Howl's Moving Castle


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10. Nicholas Ray

In a Lonely Place
Bitter Victory
They Live By Night
Johnny Guitar
On Dangerous Ground
Bigger Than Life
Rebel Without a Cause
The Lusty Men
Party Girl


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09. Wes Anderson

The Royal Tenenbaums
Rushmore
The Darjeeling Limited
Fantastic Mr. Fox
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
Bottle Rocket
Hotel Chevalier


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08. Claire Denis

Friday Night
Trouble Every Day
35 Rhums
Beau Travail
Nenette et Boni
L'Intrus


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07. Vincente Minnelli

Some Came Running
The Pirate
Cabin in the Sky
The Band Wagon
An American in Paris
Yolanda and the Thief
The Clock
The Bad and the Beautiful
The Courtship of Eddie's Father
Father of the Bride
Madame Bovary
Bells Are Ringing
Meet Me in St. Louis


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06. Hal Hartley

The Unbelievable Truth
Amateur
Simple Men
Henry Fool
The Book of Life
Trust
Surviving Desire
Flirt
Fay Grim


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05. Maurice Pialat

We Won't Grow Old Together
The Mouth Agape
Loulou
Police
A Nos Amours
Graduate First
Van Gogh
Naked Childhood


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04. Hou Hsiao-Hsien

Millennium Mambo
The Boys of Fengkuei
Dust in the Wind
Three Times
Flight of the Red Balloon
A Time to Live and a Time to Die
A Summer at Grandpa's
Flowers of Shanghai
Cafe Lumiere


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03. John Ford

My Darling Clementine
Young Mr. Lincoln
The Searchers
How Green Was My Valley
The Quiet Man
Judge Priest
The Sun Shines Bright
The Grapes of Wrath
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Stagecoach
Steamboat Round the Bend
Doctor Bull
The Informer
Drums Along the Mohawk


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02. Wong Kar-Wai

Happy Together
Fallen Angels
Days of Being Wild
Chungking Express
2046
In the Mood for Love
My Blueberry Nights
As Tears Go By


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01. Howard Hawks

Only Angels Have Wings
His Girl Friday
Rio Bravo
Ceiling Zero
Red River
To Have and Have Not
Bringing Up Baby
The Big Sleep
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
I Was a Male War Bride
Sergeant York
Scarface

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 07, 2010, 11:36:44 PM
That list is a bizarro mix of my opinions and the exact opposite of my opinions.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on October 07, 2010, 11:38:34 PM
Mission Accomplished.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Junior on October 08, 2010, 12:59:09 AM
Evil twin indeed!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 08, 2010, 05:31:45 AM
Interesting list, roujin.  I love that you have Hartley on there.

Is it that you haven't seen Ball of Fire, Hatari!, The Thing from Another World, Twentieth Century, Air Force, I Can't Sleep, and Chocolat or you didn't like them/vibe with them?  No Fear, No Die is very good but access is an issue.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 08, 2010, 08:25:17 AM
Glad to see your Hawks list excluded The Big Sleep, for which I have developed an irrational dislike (source material overpowering anyone's ability to make a comprehensible movie of it).

Also still not many top 100 lists posted so I am proud that, not only did I get to 100 directors, but I could apply a three good film minimum to each director. One or two good films doesn't really make a director good does it? I posted my list very early on so I need to go back and re-order based on more recent viewings. For instance I now have passed the three good films minimum for JP Melville (LCRouge, Le Samourai and Army of Shadows) so I can get him on the list. That applies to Mallick as well. I really need to go back and re-organise.
Has John Cameron Mitchell made a third film outside of Shortbus and Hedwig because I would love to get him on the list. I love those two films.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on October 08, 2010, 08:30:36 AM
Interesting list, roujin.  I love that you have Hartley on there.

Is it that you haven't seen Ball of Fire, Hatari!, The Thing from Another World, Twentieth Century, Air Force, I Can't Sleep, and Chocolat or you didn't like them/vibe with them?  No Fear, No Die is very good but access is an issue.

Just haven't seen them. That's another reason as to why Ford/Hawks are so high. I still have so many potentially awesome films from them left to see.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 08, 2010, 08:45:14 AM
Has John Cameron Mitchell made a third film outside of Shortbus and Hedwig because I would love to get him on the list. I love those two films.

His third film Rabbit Hole is making the festival rounds right now. Not sure when it will get any kind of theatrical release. I put him in my top ten with just the two. The one critical reaction from Toronto for Rabbit Hole was kind of insanely good.

FWIW, I only have 50 directors on my list because we can only submit a ballot of 50. I have another 10-20 I could easily throw on and be happy with.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 08, 2010, 09:07:59 AM
Interesting list, roujin.  I love that you have Hartley on there.

Is it that you haven't seen Ball of Fire, Hatari!, The Thing from Another World, Twentieth Century, Air Force, I Can't Sleep, and Chocolat or you didn't like them/vibe with them?  No Fear, No Die is very good but access is an issue.

Just haven't seen them. That's another reason as to why Ford/Hawks are so high. I still have so many potentially awesome films from them left to see.

Oh, I'm quite excited to see your future reviews of Ball of Fire, Twentieth Century, Hatari!, and Air Force in particular.  Babs is so awesome in Fire.  I'm glad I revisited it a few weeks ago for the performances list because while watching it I was overcome by a remembrance of how happy I felt one winter break when I did a Hawks retrospective.  Pretty sure another Hawks retro will be be going down before the deadline for the directors list.  I'm not sure if Twentieth Century has been talked about a little on the boards; it's a little like His Girl Friday in terms of speedy dialogue delivery.  Air Force and Hatari! were two films I wasn't expecting to dig as much as I do.  I remember you being quite taken by Garfield in Body and Soul, and I think he's great and, if I'm not misremembering, less mannered by today's acting standards in Air Force.  

Have you read Robin Wood's Hawks monograph?  How about Fujiwara's Jerry Lewis?

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on October 08, 2010, 09:23:08 AM
I own Fujiwara's book, but haven't taken the time to go through it. I wish he had split it into film-by-film analysis so I could watch along, but instead it's divided into chapters detailing different aspects of his work (one will be about sound, another about space). I did read the interview at the back of the book though. It's great.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 08, 2010, 09:40:15 AM
I'm not sure if Twentieth Century has been talked about a little on the boards;


I pimped it a lot when I watched it a year or so ago, wrote a review of it as well, much prefer it to the other Hawks comedies I've seen, like War Bride, Blondes, and the only non-good Hawks comedy I've seen, Bringing Up Baby.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 08, 2010, 01:53:03 PM
I'm not sure if Twentieth Century has been talked about a little on the boards;


I pimped it a lot when I watched it a year or so ago, wrote a review of it as well, much prefer it to the other Hawks comedies I've seen, like War Bride, Blondes, and the only non-good Hawks comedy I've seen, Bringing Up Baby.

Thank god, some sense talked about Bringing Up Baby. I gave it a B+ when I reviewed it recently and my further impression is that's a generous mark. Far too revered. War Bride is fairly horrific as well. I love His Girl Friday so this isn't hate-a-Hawks night
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 08, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
I'm not sure if Twentieth Century has been talked about a little on the boards;


I pimped it a lot when I watched it a year or so ago

That's a good deed.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 08, 2010, 05:12:20 PM
I own Fujiwara's book, but haven't taken the time to go through it. I wish he had split it into film-by-film analysis so I could watch along, but instead it's divided into chapters detailing different aspects of his work (one will be about sound, another about space). I did read the interview at the back of the book though. It's great.

Yeah, I prefer it for monographs to have at least a significant section split up by film.  Anyway, he's one of my favorite critics and since him, you, and the French like J-Lew Dawg, I'll delve into the works (the films and the book) in the future.  Wood's monograph is a classic.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on October 08, 2010, 05:16:48 PM
Great list, roujin.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 08, 2010, 10:01:26 PM
Compiling my list...  This is going to be mad hard.  Love your #1 and #3 Roujin.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 09, 2010, 09:52:55 PM
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01. Howard Hawks

I forgot to ask if you stopped at 20 for your ballot.  Did you?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on October 09, 2010, 10:19:47 PM
Yes. Just 20. I had a few others that I wanted to include to make it 25.

Lubitsch was my last cut. I had James Gray and Edward Yang on the list, too. I took out Gray cuz I figured four films wasn't enough. However, I took Yang out because even though I've seen four of his films, three of them were watched in godawful quality, so it didn't feel right. Whenever his films are finally released in decent editions, I'm sure he'll be in this list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 09, 2010, 11:06:13 PM
Yes. Just 20. I had a few others that I wanted to include to make it 25.

Lubitsch was my last cut. I had James Gray and Edward Yang on the list, too. I took out Gray cuz I figured four films wasn't enough. However, I took Yang out because even though I've seen four of his films, three of them were watched in godawful quality, so it didn't feel right. Whenever his films are finally released in decent editions, I'm sure he'll be in this list.

I see.  I don't see anything wrong with putting Yang on there if you really liked the stories, characters, or thematic concerns despite suboptimal picture and/or audio.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Jared on October 22, 2010, 07:49:08 PM
This list somewhat includes Edward F. Cline, Ethan Coen, and Emeric Pressburger as they are co-directors for people I have actually listed for several of their efforts. Dont really know if Powell, for example, should be seperated since 2 of his best movies (Thief of Baghdad, Peeping Tom) are without Pressburger. Whatever. Do with it what you will.

Anyways, director, followed by number of films I think Ive seen, and followed by what I consider my favorite...for many of these guys the favorite film changes constantly.

Regarding the Quality-Quantity thing its a case by case. I love what Ive seen to date from Sofia Coppola and Sajayit Ray (thats probably spelled wrong), but having only seen 3 by each I just couldnt include them. Some of these guys have made quite a few movies I dont like, but at least I find their bad movies ambitious, which is why Clint Eastwood is on the list and Kevin Smith isnt.

1)Woody Allen-42-Annie Hall
2)Akira Kurosawa-23-Ikiru
3)Joel Coen-15-No Country for Old Men
4)Martin Scorsese-28-Taxi Driver
5)Alfred Hitchcock-37-Vertigo
6)Billy Wilder-14-Double Indemnity
7)Sergio Leone-6-Once Upon a Time in the West
8)Stanley Kubrick-14-2001: A Space Odyssey
9)Francis Ford Coppola-11-The Godfather
10)Quentin Tarantino-9-Pulp Fiction
11)Luis Bunuel-12-The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
12)PT Anderson-5-There Will Be Blood
13)Robert Altman-9-McCabe & Mrs. Miller
14)Buster Keaton-21-The Cameraman
15)David Lynch-17-Blue Velvet
16)Maskai Kobayashi-5-Harakiri
17)Carol Reed-5-The Third Man
18)Jacques Tati-4-Play Time
19)Steven Soderbergh-20-Traffic
20)Ridley Scott-11-Blade Runner
21)Werner Herzog-18-Fitzcarraldo
22)Sidney Lumet-9-12 Angry Men
23)David Fincher-7-The Social Network
24)Charles Chaplin-38-The Gold Rush
25)Orson Welles-7-Citizen Kane
26)Fritz Lang-5-M
27)John Ford-12-Stagecoach
28)Howard Hawks-11-Rio Bravo
29)Pedro Almodovar-8-Talk to Her
30)Richard Linklater-12-Before Sunrise
31)Steven Spielberg-20-Schiendler's List
32)Sam Peckinpah-8-Straw Dogs
33)Christopher Nolan-7-Batman Begins
34)Michael Curtiz-7-Casablanca
35)Errol Morris-6-Gates of Heaven
36)Hayao Miyazaki-9-My Neighbor Totoro
37)Clint Eastwood-12-Unforgiven
38)Igmar Bergman-7-The Virgin Spring
39)Tex Avery-18-Red Hot Riding Hood
40)Preston Sturges-5-The Lady Eve
41)Eric Rohmer-10-My Night at Mauds
42)Michael Powell-11-The Life and Depth of Colonel Blimp
43)Fedrico Fellini-7-8-1/2
44)Terance Malick-4-Badlands
45)James Cameron-7-Terminator 2: Judgement Day
46)Henri Georges Clouzot-4-The Wages of Fear
47)Tim Burton-15-Batman
48)Frank Capra-6-Casablanca
49)Jean Luc Godard-11-Contempt
50)Jim Jarmusch-6-Mystery Train
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 23, 2010, 12:21:30 AM
jrod, you overlooked something:

48)Frank Capra-6-Casablanca
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Jared on October 23, 2010, 03:37:38 PM
yikes, that shoudl be Its a Wonderful Life. Did the favorites too fast after arranging the list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FroHam X on October 23, 2010, 03:45:00 PM
People. Peter Weir. He needs to place really high on this list. He was on the last one, but he is so often unsung that even I forgot to rank him.

I think his best movies speak for themselves:

Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975)
The Last Wave (1977)
Gallipoli (1981)
The Year of Living Dangerously (1982)
Witness (1985)
Dead Poets Society (1989)
Fearless (1993)
The Truman Show (1998)
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003)

This here is a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on October 23, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
I'm not too familiar with his pre-Truman show stuff. I've seen Witness & Poets, just not for a while. In anycase, seems worth considering.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FroHam X on October 23, 2010, 03:53:34 PM
I'm not too familiar with his pre-Truman show stuff. I've seen Witness & Poets, just not for a while. In anycase, seems worth considering.

100% worth considering. Even based on Truman and Master and Commander alone. You add Witness and Dead Poets and that's that. But then you add a movie as amazing as Picnic at Hanging Rock and you're truly watching the work of one of the greatest directors of all time.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 23, 2010, 03:59:12 PM
Picnic is one of my all-time favorites, and Last Wave is pretty good, but the rest is crap.

edit: "crap" is too harsh.  I'll say "underwhelming".
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on October 23, 2010, 04:00:29 PM
He seems like one of those cool do-it-all type directors. Would you say there's anything about his directing that comes across in every film he does? Not that it's bad if there isn't, just curious.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FroHam X on October 23, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
He seems like one of those cool do-it-all type directors. Would you say there's anything about his directing that comes across in every film he does? Not that it's bad if there isn't, just curious.

Um. I wouldn't say that his films immediately scream "Weir" in any way and that probably is the big reason he is often left unmentioned in discussions of great directors. All I can say for sure is that nearly every film he has made is great. There are only two feature films of his that I left of the list. One is Green Card, which is a comedy that is decent at best. I also left of his first film, an Australian comedy-horror kind movie called The Cars That Ate Paris. That one is actually quite fun.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on October 23, 2010, 04:11:25 PM
What's the deal with his newest one, The Way Back (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1023114/)? I only heard about it just now looking him up on IMDB. Looks like it's not going to get a release until next year, yet it's finished now. Should that be taken as a bad sign?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 23, 2010, 04:11:46 PM
My last viewing of Dead Poets Society put it into my top 100, probably because I have kids at that certain age and it resonated with me. Plus that Robin Williams actually can act.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FroHam X on October 23, 2010, 04:23:31 PM
What's the deal with his newest one, The Way Back (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1023114/)? I only heard about it just now looking him up on IMDB. Looks like it's not going to get a release until next year, yet it's finished now. Should that be taken as a bad sign?

I've heard good things about it. It's play a couple of festivals, and I believe they had a hard time finding a slot for it, so they have chosen to release it right at the end of 2010 in NY and LA for awards consideration, and then run an Oscar campaign/theatrical release beginning in late January.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 23, 2010, 08:24:12 PM
Right now it looks like the Coens will end up at #2, I feel kinda guilty for putting such recent directors so high up, but seriously:

Blood Simple 8/10
Raising Arizona 8/10
Millers Crossing 10/10
Barton Fink 9/10
Fargo 10/10
Lebowski 10/10
O Brother 9/10
TMWWT 8/10
No Country 10/10
Serious Man 9/10

They are as prolific as Hitchcock and as consistently great as Tarkovsky, only Kurosawa is even in the same league.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 1SO on October 24, 2010, 12:39:30 AM
1. Sergio Leone
2. Akira Kurosawa
3. Alfred Hitchcock
4. Steven Spielberg
5. Billy Wilder
6. Martin Scorsese
7. Stanley Kubrick
8. John Huston
9. Howard Hawks
10. Quentin Tarantino
11. David Lynch
12. George Roy Hill
13. Robert Altman
14. F. W. Murnau
15. David Fincher
16. Coen Brothers
17. Milos Forman
18. Hayao Miyazaki
19. Charlie Chaplin
20. Ingmar Bergman
21. David Lean
22. Mike Nichols
23. Peter Greenaway
24. Francis Ford Coppola
25. Robert Bresson
26. James Cameron
27. Brad Bird
28. Christopher Nolan
29. Sidney Lumet
30. Paul Thomas Anderson
31. Brian De Palma
32. Buster Keaton
33. Takeshi Kitano
34. Ridley Scott
35. Sergi Eisenstein
36. Todd Haynes
37. Francois Truffuat
38. Michael Powell
39. Roman Polanski
40. Fritz Lang
41. Jean-Pierre Jeunet
42. Nicolas Roeg
43. Wong Kar-Wai
44. Robert Zemeckis
45. Joseph L. Mankiewicz
46. Leo McCarey
47. Alejandro Jodorowsky
48. Kathryn Bigelow
49. Bela Tarr
50. Bernardo Bertolucci
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 24, 2010, 12:43:06 AM
Sausage Fest 2010.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: dallegre on October 24, 2010, 12:46:04 AM
1. Sergio Leone
2. Akira Kurosawa
3. Alfred Hitchcock
4. Steven Spielberg
5. Billy Wilder
6. Martin Scorsese
7. Stanley Kubrick
8. John Huston
9. Howard Hawks
10. Quentin Tarantino
11. David Lynch
12. George Roy Hill
13. Robert Altman
14. F. W. Murnau
15. David Fincher
16. Coen Brothers
17. Milos Forman
18. Hayao Miyazaki
19. Charlie Chaplin
20. Ingmar Bergman
21. David Lean
22. Mike Nichols
23. Peter Greenaway
24. Francis Ford Coppola
25. Robert Bresson
26. James Cameron
27. Brad Bird
28. Christopher Nolan
29. Sidney Lumet
30. Paul Thomas Anderson
31. Brian De Palma
32. Buster Keaton
33. Takeshi Kitano
34. Ridley Scott
35. Sergi Eisenstein
36. Todd Haynes
37. Francois Truffuat
38. Michael Powell
39. Roman Polanski
40. Fritz Lang
41. Jean-Pierre Jeunet
42. Nicolas Roeg
43. Wong Kar-Wai
44. Robert Zemeckis
45. Joseph L. Mankiewicz
46. Leo McCarey
47. Alejandro Jodorowsky
48. Kathryn Bigelow
49. Bela Tarr
50. Bernardo Bertolucci

Very nice. I love your top 10. I don't have a list, but I'm pretty sure my top 10 would look pretty similar to that. Bonus points for including Miyazaki in your top 20, and nice to see Kitano get a spot.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 24, 2010, 09:41:54 PM
So, I'm pretty sure that after having seen Thirst to go along with the Vengeance Trilogy, Chan-wook Park is going to end up very high on my list this year, provided I actually do one.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 24, 2010, 10:22:05 PM
1. Sergio Leone - Yes, but he made so few movies.
2. Akira Kurosawa - YES!!!  best director eva,
3. Alfred Hitchcock - Alot of very good and great films, but never anything I would call a masterpiece.
4. Steven Spielberg - Wouldn't put him this high up, too generic.
5. Billy Wilder - Need to watch more, but yeah he is great.
6. Martin Scorsese - Hasn't made a good movie in 20 years, but classics are great.
7. Stanley Kubrick - One of the best of all time.
8. John Huston -  Need to watch more.
9. Howard Hawks - Need to watch more
10. Quentin Tarantino - Great but slightly overrated.
11. David Lynch - Great but hasn't made good film in awhile.
12. George Roy Hill - ???
13. Robert Altman - Meh
14. F. W. Murnau - Epic win, best non-comedy silent director.
15. David Fincher - A tad overrated, only 7 and Fight Club are great.
16. Coen Brothers - Best modern directors.
17. Milos Forman - Good though I still hate Amadeus.
18. Hayao Miyazaki - Best animator in history.
19. Charlie Chaplin - Love Charlie, even his talkies.
20. Ingmar Bergman - A God among filmmakers.
21. David Lean - Only a few truly great films.
22. Mike Nichols - ???
23. Peter Greenaway - Vomit...
24. Francis Ford Coppola - Only on strength of his classics.
25. Robert Bresson - Need to see.
26. James Cameron - Deserves his due.
27. Brad Bird - Meh
28. Christopher Nolan - Projectile vomit.
29. Sidney Lumet - Great and underrated.
30. Paul Thomas Anderson - Meh
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: dallegre on October 24, 2010, 10:34:06 PM
So, I'm pretty sure that after having seen Thirst to go along with the Vengeance Trilogy, Chan-wook Park is going to end up very high on my list this year, provided I actually do one.

If you haven't seen Join Security Area, it's really worth it. Not as good as his masterpieces, Oldboy and Lady Vengeance, but on par with Thirst and Mr. Vengeance.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 24, 2010, 10:57:25 PM
It has been interesting to see how people differ in their view of how many films they need to have seen/liked (or the director to have made) to be considered. Some people are even saying "I've seen four or five which isn't enough to rank" which seems crazy strict. Then again, I included someone who has only made one (Martin McDonough, though I threw in his short film as well) and at least two who have only released two (when I had filled out my ballot anyway). I think greatness can include potential as well for someone whose future is mostly ahead of them.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on October 24, 2010, 11:47:39 PM
People need to put Mike Leigh on their lists.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 1SO on October 24, 2010, 11:49:10 PM
It has been interesting to see how people differ in their view of how many films they need to have seen/liked (or the director to have made) to be considered. Some people are even saying "I've seen four or five which isn't enough to rank" which seems crazy strict. Then again, I included someone who has only made one (Martin McDonough, though I threw in his short film as well) and at least two who have only released two (when I had filled out my ballot anyway). I think greatness can include potential as well for someone whose future is mostly ahead of them.

I go by the James Dean model.  1 great film grabs my interest, 2 great confirms your talent and after 3 I can definitely say you're a great director. So Andrew Stanton is 1 Great Film away.  Besides, I know many people who hailed Terrence Malick as a Great Director when he only had Badlands and Days of Heaven.

1. Sergio Leone - Yes, but he made so few movies.
The Dollars Trilogy
Once Upon A Time in the West
Duck You Sucker
Once Upon a Time in America

3 of these are in my Top 100 of all time...nuff said!


3. Alfred Hitchcock - Alot of very good and great films, but never anything I would call a masterpiece.
In my Top 100...
The Birds
North by Northwest
Rope
Strangers on a Train

add Psycho, Vertigo and Rear Window to that and I bet most people would call at least 2 of them masterpieces

4. Steven Spielberg - Wouldn't put him this high up, too generic.
This surprised me but he also has 4 in my Top 100
Close Encounters
Jaws
Raiders
Schindler's List

Then there's the half-dozen other great ones.  He's not at the top of his game right now, but he's proven his Greatness many times over.

6. Martin Scorsese - Hasn't made a good movie in 20 years, but classics are great.
He's still good, and the classics keep him on the all-time list.

8. John Huston -  Need to watch more.
I recommend the Bogart Blu-Rays that just came out.  Plus The Man Who Would be King.


11. David Lynch - Great but hasn't made good film in awhile.
Hasn't made a feature in a while, but both of his films from the 00's are in my Top 100 of that decade.

12. George Roy Hill - ???
4 Great Films...
The World According to Garp
Slaughterhouse Five
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Slap Shot



15. David Fincher - A tad overrated, only 7 and Fight Club are great.
People dismiss The Game, which is excellent.  Social Network put him back on top.

22. Mike Nichols - ???
The Graduate
Angels in America
Closer
Carnal Knowledge
Catch-22
Wit
Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf?
The Birdcage
Silkwood
Primary Colors


24. Francis Ford Coppola - Only on strength of his classics.
Somebody whose reputation is cemented by only 4 films.

26. James Cameron - Deserves his due.
In 3 simple words, you defended this unpopular but very worthy choice better than I could in paragraphs.

28. Christopher Nolan - Projectile vomit.
I debated this one because he feels so new and I know all the young'ins on the boards are going to name him anyways.  But he's made 5 great movies now, and his visual style keeps getting better.  He's a classic director of the old school of cinema for the big screen that doesn't make us wait 5 years between projects.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on October 25, 2010, 05:47:17 AM
People need to put Mike Leigh on their lists.

I'd like to see that too :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on October 25, 2010, 07:19:31 AM
People need to put Mike Leigh on their lists.

I'd like to see that too :)

Beard power!

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Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on October 25, 2010, 04:01:15 PM
It has been interesting to see how people differ in their view of how many films they need to have seen/liked (or the director to have made) to be considered. Some people are even saying "I've seen four or five which isn't enough to rank" which seems crazy strict. Then again, I included someone who has only made one (Martin McDonough, though I threw in his short film as well) and at least two who have only released two (when I had filled out my ballot anyway). I think greatness can include potential as well for someone whose future is mostly ahead of them.

This is a big problem for me. How do you balance someone who only made a handful of films and was very consistent versus someone who made a lot of films with greater peaks and lower valleys? I am trying to quantify the films as much as possible by rating all of their films and then using a fancy math formula. Despite not really being a math guy, the results seem to be pretty good. The problem though is that it only really works with directors whom I've seen six or more films by. I'll have to figure something else out for directors that I've seen less than six films for, though the absolute minimum has to be four or five. I can't put Kenji Mizoguchi on my list on the strength of two films no matter how awesome Ugestu Monogatari and Sanshô the Bailiff are because it would reward him for my lack of a sample size.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 25, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
I can't put Kenji Mizoguchi on my list on the strength of two films no matter how awesome Ugestu Monogatari and Sanshô the Bailiff are because it would reward him for my lack of a sample size.

The solution to this is to do yourself a favor and see more Mizoguchi. :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on October 25, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
I know, but I'm trying to cram for everyone and Mizoguchi isn't the easiest to find everything for  :-\ . Fuller, Almodovar, Huston, Curtiz, Boyle, Gilliam, Lubitsch, Cukor, and Cronenberg are all at five films and Mizoguchi, Murnau, Sirk, Kieslowski, John Sturges, Fleming, Tati, Renoir, de Sica, Jarmusch, LeRoy, Mankiewicz, Leigh, and Sheridan and at less than five. Unfortunately many of these guys will have to wait until next year.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 25, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
I like jrod's format with the # seen and favorite, so I updated my list (only the top 50 though):

1. Ingmar Bergman (49 - Scenes from a Marriage)
2. Satyajit Ray (36 - Mahanagar)
3. Alfred Hitchcock (36 - Rear Window)
4. Akira Kurosawa (30 - Seven Samurai)
5. Werner Herzog (38 - Aguirre, the Wrath of God)
6. Woody Allen (37 - Love and Death)
7. Luis Bunuel (29 - The Exterminating Angel)
8. Kenji Mizoguchi (17 - Ugetsu)
9. Ming-liang Tsai (11 - The Hole)
10. Francois Truffaut (23 - Jules and Jim)
11. Bela Tarr (10 - Werckmeister Harmonies)
12. Ritwik Ghatak (8 - Meghe Dhaka Tara)
13. Aki Kaurismaki (19 - The Match Factory Girl)
14. Emir Kusturica (10 - Time of the Gypsies)
15. Krzysztof Kieslowski (18 - Three Colors: Blue)
16. Robert Bresson (14 - A Man Escaped)
17. Peter Greenaway (17 - Drowning By Numbers)
18. Pedro Almodovar (10 - All About My Mother)
19. Wes Anderson (8 - The Royal Tenenbaums)
20. David Lynch (15 - Eraserhead)
21. Terrence Malick (4 - The New World)
22. Apichatpong Weerasethakul (7 - Syndromes and a Century)
23. Roy Andersson (8 - Songs from the Second Floor)
24. Anh Hung Tran (6 - The Vertical Ray of the Sun)
25. Orson Welles (12 - The Trial)
26. Jacques Tati (5 - Play Time)
27. Alain Resnais (11 - Last Year at Marienbad)
28. Federico Fellini (14 - Nights of Cabiria)
29. Kon Ichikawa (11 - Revenge of a Kabuki Actor)
30. Ermanno Olmi (5 - I Fidanzati)
31. Michael Powell/Emeric Pressburger (14 - A Matter of Life and Death)
32. James Lee (5 - The Beautiful Washing Machine)
33. Yasujiro Ozu (17 - Early Summer)
34. John Cassavetes (8 - A Woman Under the Influence)
35. Wen Jiang (3 - Devils on the Doorstep)
36. Mikhail Kalatozov (3 - The Letter Never Sent)
37. Douglas Sirk (8 - All That Heaven Allows)
38. Yimou Zhang (11 - The Story of Qiu Ju)
39. Stanley Kubrick (12 - 2001: A Space Odyssey)
40. Stan Brakhage (112 - Commingled Containers)
41. Nobuhiko Obayashi (8 - House)
42. Martin Scorsese (19 - Goodfellas)
43. Hiroshi Teshigahara (8 - Woman in the Dunes)
44. Anthony Mann (13 - The Furies)
45. Mohsen Makhmalbaf (6 - A Moment of Innocence)
46. Abbas Kiarostami (9 - Close-Up)
47. Howard Hawks (14 - Rio Bravo)
48. Victor Erice (3 - Spirit of the Beehive)
49. David Lean (8 - Lawrence of Arabia)
50. Mikio Naruse (7 - Meshi)
51. Michael Winterbottom
52. Masaki Kobayashi
53. Jean-Pierre Jeunet
54. John Brahm
55. Hayao Miyazaki
56. Anthony Asquith
57. Quentin Tarantino
58. Roman Polanski
59. Michelangelo Antonioni
60. Jacques Demy
61. Max Ophuls
62. Elia Kazan
63. Joel & Ethan Coen
64. Michael Haneke
65. Milos Forman
66. Frank Capra
67. Shohei Imamura
68. Buster Keaton
69. Louis Malle
70. Phil Karlson
71. Pen-Ek Ratanaruang
72. Carl Theodor Dreyer
73. Steven Soderbergh
74. Nicholas Ray
75. Agnes Varda
76. Fritz Lang
77. Sergio Leone
78. Francis Ford Coppola
79. Michael Curtiz
80. Otto Preminger
81. Carol Reed
82. Jean-Pierre Melville
83. Jacques Tourneur
84. Jules Dassin
85. Billy Wilder
86. Henry Hathaway
87. Robert Wise
88. Kar-Wai Wong
89. William Wyler
90. Takeshi Kitano
91. Jane Campion
92. Shunji Iwai
93. Joseph L. Mankiewicz
94. Andrei Tarkovsky
95. Jean Renoir
96. Leo McCarey
97. John Huston
98. George Cukor
99. Sergei Parajanov
100. Eric Rohmer


I'm noticing a lot of places where I could fine-tune the order, even near the top.  Ah well, whatever.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 25, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
75. Agnes Varda
Too low!

Also, is she the only lady present?  :'(
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 25, 2010, 07:27:17 PM
75. Agnes Varda
Too low!

Also, is she the only lady present?  :'(

No, there's one other (Campion).  And I almost included Aparna Sen, but her last movie was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 25, 2010, 07:40:49 PM
Denis?

I complain, but I don't think I'll have many more on my list. Maybe Jamie Babbitt, if I can see and enjoy Itty Bitty Tittie Committee. Maybe I should make the effort to see more by Shepitko. And Gillian Armstrong. And Akerman. Wish Miranda July had more films, because Me and You... is awesome, but I don't think it's quite enough for me to name her as one of the best of all time.

Hmm, yeah. There's about 14 or so films by female directors on my recent top 100, but mostly it's examples where I've only seen one or two.

I see a marathon approaching!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 25, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
Denis?

I complain, but I don't think I'll have many more on my list. Maybe Jamie Babbitt, if I can see and enjoy Itty Bitty Tittie Committee. Maybe I should make the effort to see more by Shepitko. And Gillian Armstrong. And Akerman. Wish Miranda July had more films, because Me and You... is awesome, but I don't think it's quite enough for me to name her as one of the best of all time.

Denis - Only seen Beau Travail, didn't think all that much of it
Babbitt - don't know her
Shepitko - liked The Ascent and Wings, not enough to make my list
Armstrong - never seen any, but MBC is on my radar
Akerman - Can't say I love Jeanne Dielman, though it is fascinating.  Didn't like Je Tu Il Elle much at all, haven't seen any others (yet)

Mira Nair is another contender, but again... haven't seen much, and haven't loved what I've seen enough for the list.  Lucile Hadzihalilovic would totally be a contender if she did something else, but as amazing as Innocence is, I can't include someone on the strength of one film.

Others that could make the cut after I see more:
Sally Potter
Ann Hui
Catherine Breillat
Lynne Ramsay
Leni Riefenstahl
Mai Zetterling
Ida Lupino
Agnieszka Holland
Marguerite Duras
Věra Chytilová
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 25, 2010, 08:52:59 PM
Denis - Only seen Beau Travail, didn't think all that much of it
Babbitt - don't know her
Shepitko - liked The Ascent and Wings, not enough to make my list
Armstrong - never seen any, but MBC is on my radar
Akerman - Can't say I love Jeanne Dielman, though it is fascinating.  Didn't like Je Tu Il Elle much at all, haven't seen any others (yet)

Mira Nair is another contender, but again... haven't seen much, and haven't loved what I've seen enough for the list.  Lucile Hadzihalilovic would totally be a contender if she did something else, but as amazing as Innocence is, I can't include someone on the strength of one film.
That's a shame about Denis and Akerman. I'm quite in love with Denis myself, and a massive fan of Beau Travail (number 4 of all time). I found JD powerful enough to see it twice in a year. Babbitt directed But I'm A Cheerleader. I don't think she's really a serious contender, but worth being a part of the discussion. Same with Shepitko. I've not seen anything by Armstrong either, but she has a strong reputation, especially here. I've only seen Monsoon Wedding by Nair, but yeah, she should be in the discussion as well.
Others that could make the cut after I see more:
Sally Potter
Ann Hui
Catherine Breillat
Lynne Ramsay
Leni Riefenstahl
Mai Zetterling
Ida Lupino
Agnieszka Holland
Marguerite Duras
Věra Chytilová
I've seen Song of the Exile, Morvern Callar and Daisies. I'd definitely feel those directors need to be in the discussion, and I'm keen to explore some of the others.

What about Barbara Kopple?

I feel like I'm more aware lately of how little avenue there is for female directors, and I'm really keen to explore what some of them have to offer.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 25, 2010, 10:05:39 PM
I like jrod's format with the # seen and favorite, so I updated my list (only the top 50 though):

1. Ingmar Bergman (49 - Scenes from a Marriage) - Awesome and prolific director, though the correct answer to the best movie question is Through a Glass Darkly.
2. Satyajit Ray (36 - Mahanagar) - Watched nothing by this guy, will get to eventually.
3. Alfred Hitchcock (36 - Rear Window) - As I said before, lots of very good films, no great ones.
4. Akira Kurosawa (30 - Seven Samurai) - The Best of the best.
5. Werner Herzog (38 - Aguirre, the Wrath of God) - Love him, looking forward to watching more.
6. Woody Allen (37 - Love and Death) - Massively overrated, mediocre at best.
7. Luis Bunuel (29 - The Exterminating Angel) - Too weird for me.
8. Kenji Mizoguchi (17 - Ugetsu) - Only saw Ugetsu and Sansho, need to see more.
9. Ming-liang Tsai (11 - The Hole) -  ???
10. Francois Truffaut (23 - Jules and Jim) - Successfully avoided him thus far.
11. Bela Tarr (10 - Werckmeister Harmonies) -  ???
12. Ritwik Ghatak (8 - Meghe Dhaka Tara) -  ???
13. Aki Kaurismaki (19 - The Match Factory Girl) -  ???
14. Emir Kusturica (10 - Time of the Gypsies) - Only saw one film but loved it, need to see more.
15. Krzysztof Kieslowski (18 - Three Colors: Blue) - Need to check him out.
16. Robert Bresson (14 - A Man Escaped) - Again need to check him out.
17. Peter Greenaway (17 - Drowning By Numbers) - Booo!  Pretentious crap.
18. Pedro Almodovar (10 - All About My Mother) -  Good but like Alfred never amde a masterpiece.
19. Wes Anderson (8 - The Royal Tenenbaums) - Meh
20. David Lynch (15 - Eraserhead) - Yes, correct choice for best film.
21. Terrence Malick (4 - The New World) - No more tree porn please.
22. Apichatpong Weerasethakul (7 - Syndromes and a Century) -  ???
23. Roy Andersson (8 - Songs from the Second Floor) -  ???
24. Anh Hung Tran (6 - The Vertical Ray of the Sun) - ???
25. Orson Welles (12 - The Trial) - Yey, need to watch more.
26. Jacques Tati (5 - Play Time) -  ???
27. Alain Resnais (11 - Last Year at Marienbad) -  ???
28. Federico Fellini (14 - Nights of Cabiria) - Never got into him
29. Kon Ichikawa (11 - Revenge of a Kabuki Actor) - Win, need to watch alot more though.
30. Ermanno Olmi (5 - I Fidanzati) -  ???

Your list is a collection of directors I feel guilty for not checking out.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 25, 2010, 10:15:05 PM
Your list is a collection of directors I feel guilty for not checking out.

You should feel more guilty for saying Hitchcock never made a great film, calling Woody mediocre, or using the word "pretentious".  :P

Truth be told, Woody is one that I'm thinking of moving further down the list.  He has done a handful of my favorite films, but a lot that I'm not as fond of as I used to be.

I'm also thinking I like Mizoguchi more than Kurosawa these days.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: chardy999 on October 26, 2010, 06:05:45 AM
Those numbers are actually sickening. I doubt I've seen much more than 10 from any particular director. Having said that, off the top of my head

1. Quentin Tarantino
2. Roman Polanski
3. Sergio Leone
4. Ingmar Bergman
5. Federico Fellini
6. Joel & Ethan Coen
7. Krzysztof Kieslowski
8. John Cassavetes
9. Yimou Zhang
10. Christopher Nolan
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 26, 2010, 06:59:01 AM
I think its time I check out this Kieslowski fellow.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 26, 2010, 11:04:05 AM
Yes, it is. Now is the time.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: michael x on October 26, 2010, 12:14:40 PM
I haven't seen nearly as many movies as some of you, so I created my own restrictions - I had to have seen at least 3 films from the director, and at least one had to be in my Top 100. This eliminated a lot of people I'd otherwise have very high, like Welles, Varda, Woody Allen, Antonioni, John Ford, and Kobayashi. There were a few eligible directors I left off because I'm not yet convinced they're great directors, from what I've seen.

#1   Akira Kurosawa   Seven Samurai, Ran, High and Low, Yojimbo, Throne of Blood
#2   Federico Fellini   8 ½, La Dolce Vita, Nights of Cabiria
#3   Werner Herzog   Grizzly Man, Fitzcarraldo, Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Little Dieter Needs to Fly
#4   Sergio Leone   Once Upon a Time in the West, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, For a Few Dollars More
#5   Joel & Ethan Coen   The Big Lebowski, Fargo, Raising Arizona, No Country for Old Men, Miller's Crossing

#6   Quentin Tarantino   Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown
#7   Martin Scorsese   Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, The Departed
#8   Billy Wilder   Sunset Blvd., Double Indemnity, The Apartment
#9   Krystof Kieslowski   The Three Colors trilogy, The Double Life of Veronique
#10   Francis Ford Coppola   The Godfather, The Godfather, pt. II, Apocalypse Now

#11   Wong Kar-wai   2046, Chungking Express, In the Mood for Love
#12   Christopher Nolan   Memento, The Prestige, Inception, Batman Begins
#13   Alfred Hitchcock   Rear Window, North By Northwest, Psycho, Vertigo
#14   Howard Hawks   Only Angels Have Wings, Rio Bravo, The Big Sleep, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes
#15   Peter Jackson   The Lord of the Rings trilogy

#16   Michael Mann   Heat, Miami Vice
#17   Terrence Malick   Days of Heaven, Thin Red Line, The New World
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 26, 2010, 12:35:41 PM
So, I'm pretty sure that after having seen Thirst to go along with the Vengeance Trilogy, Chan-wook Park is going to end up very high on my list this year, provided I actually do one.


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15) Park Chan Wook
(Oldboy, Sympathy for Lady Vengeance, Thirst)
This is where he ranks for me. I know that is high but Lady Vengeance, in particular, is that good. {AND I don't mind how divisive he is either}

I haven't seen nearly as many movies as some of you, so I created my own restrictions - I had to have seen at least 3 films from the director, and at least one had to be in my Top 100. This eliminated a lot of people I'd otherwise have very high, like Welles, Varda, Woody Allen, Antonioni, John Ford, and Kobayashi. There were a few eligible directors I left off because I'm not yet convinced they're great directors, from what I've seen.


#13   Alfred Hitchcock   Rear Window, North By Northwest, Psycho, Vertigo

I have left off so many directors who are at the two film mark for me, it just ain't enough, three really is a lower limit, so I agree and if you can't name those three then how are they great directors? Mike Leigh is one of those (happy go lucky/ Topsy Turvy)
OK enough personal fascism. On Hitchcock; respect to those named, but I am picking up a sense that outside of the obvious masterpieces (Z) there are a LOT of very good or very entertaining Hitch films. If it helps anyone's future viewing these are the others.

MASTERPIECE
Notorious, Shadow of a Doubt, Rebecca

GREAT
39 Steps, Lady Vanishes, The Birds, Marnie, Dial M for Murder, I Confess, Strangers on a Train

GOOD
Rope, Trouble with Harry, Frenzy, To Catch A Thief, Suspicion, Spellbound, The Wrong Man, The Man Who Knew Too Much

Outside of Kurosawa I don't think many directors can be considered pantheon great just by sheer weight/ quality like Hitch (and I am thinking of Ford and Hawks, too much studio hackery for me). I can't speak for Bergmann, somehow he has passed me by, if someone can work up the same treatment on the great Swede (MT?) I would be grateful.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on October 26, 2010, 09:17:33 PM

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50. Steven Spielberg

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49. Ridley Scott

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48. Guillermo Del Toro

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47. Francis Ford Coppola

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46. Billy Wilder

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45. Quentin Tarantino

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44. Robert Altman

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43. Joss Whedon

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42. Ingmar Bergman

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41. Michael Mann

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40. Henry Selick

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39. Paul Greengrass

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38. Sidney Lumet

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37. Andrew Stanton

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36. James Cameron

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35. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu

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34. Andrew Dominik

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33. Terry Gilliam

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32. Alfred Hitchcock

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31. Jim Sheridan

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30. Rob Reiner

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29. Edgar Wright

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28. Francois Truffaut

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27. Charlie Chaplin

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26. Banksy

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25. Jim Jarmusch

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24. Apichatpong Weerasethakul

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23. Duncan Jones

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22. Sylvain Chomet

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21. Wong Kar Wai

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20. Gus Van Sant

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19. David Fincher

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18. Christopher Nolan

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17. Steve Mcqueen

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16. Terrence Malick

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15. Pedro Almodovar

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14. Akira Kurosawa

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13. Stanley Kubrick

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12. Kathryn Bigelow

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11. Danny Boyle

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10. John  Hughes

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9. Joel & Ethan Coen

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8. Martin Scorsese

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7. Rian Johnson

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6. Paul Thomas Anderson

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5. Lynne Ramsay

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4. Chris Marker

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3. Sergio Leone

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2. Spike Jonze

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1. Hayao Miyazaki

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on October 26, 2010, 09:36:41 PM
Banksy and McQueen after 1 film?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: dallegre on October 26, 2010, 09:41:48 PM
Nice list 'Noke. A few of those seem a bit premature, but they don't bother me too much.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 26, 2010, 11:00:32 PM
I can't speak for Bergmann, somehow he has passed me by, if someone can work up the same treatment on the great Swede (MT?) I would be grateful.

Bergman's tricky because I don't think he has as much universal appeal as Kurosawa or Hitchcock.  I will say that the five "cornerstone" Bergman films, the ones that get the most attention, are SEVENTH SEAL, WILD STRAWBERRIES, PERSONA, SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE, and FANNY & ALEXANDER.  All deservedly so (although Persona is much tougher to appreciate than the others).

As for the rest, you can always refer to my rankings here (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8960.0), but I'll recap:

MASTERPIECE:
Shame, Winter Light, Through a Glass Darkly (plus the five listed above)

GREAT:
Sawdust and Tinsel, Saraband, Autumn Sonata, Thirst, The Silence, The Virgin Spring, Smiles of a Summer Night, In the Presence of a Clown

GOOD:
Summer With Monika, Brink of Life, Cries and Whispers, Hour of the Wolf, Dreams, Port of Call, The Passion of Anna, The Magician (most people rank it higher)



...there are several others I consider "good", but I may be biased.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 26, 2010, 11:31:49 PM

50. Steven Spielberg - About as high as I would put him.

49. Ridley Scott - Ditto.

48. Guillermo Del Toro - A future master, already a couple of greats under his belt.

47. Francis Ford Coppola - Faded glory, but can't argue with classics.

46. Billy Wilder - One of my favorite, need to see more.

45. Quentin Tarantino - Again, about as high as I would put him, good but a tad overrated.

44. Robert Altman - Need to see more.

43. Joss Whedon  ???

42. Ingmar Bergman - Yes!  Needs to be on all lists.

41. Michael Mann - Meh

40. Henry Selick -  ???

39. Paul Greengrass - Sigh, really?

38. Sidney Lumet - Win, I love this guy, very underappreciated.

37. Andrew Stanton -  ???

36. James Cameron - Often dismissed, but made some of the best blockbusters ever.

35. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu -  ???

34. Andrew Dominik -  ???

33. Terry Gilliam - Nice, always glad to see Terry on a list.

32. Alfred Hitchcock - About as high as he should go.

31. Jim Sheridan -  ???

30. Rob Reiner -  ???

29. Edgar Wright - Made two great films, need to see more though.

28. Francois Truffaut - Successfully avoided him thus far.

27. Charlie Chaplin - Epic win.  Many people forget ole Charlie, still one of the best actor/directors ever.

26. Banksy - I don't know, based on just one (great) film?

25. Jim Jarmusch - Need to see.

24. Apichatpong Weerasethakul -  ??? funny name

23. Duncan Jones -  ???

22. Sylvain Chomet -  ???

21. Wong Kar Wai - Awesome, plan to see Happy Together before finalizing list.

20. Gus Van Sant - Big win, huge fan of the guy even though he never topped Drugstore and Idaho.

19. David Fincher - Two very good early films, needs to make more.

18. Christopher Nolan - Sigh, the I will buy a lollipop to the first person who makes a full list without Woody, Malick, or this guy.

17. Steve Mcqueen -  ???

16. Terrence Malick - Yeah, you ain't getting the lollipop.

15. Pedro Almodovar - Lots of good films, still waiting for a masterpiece.

14. Akira Kurosawa - Win, should be in top 10.

13. Stanley Kubrick - Ditto

12. Kathryn Bigelow - Hmmm, haven't really seen anything beside Hurt Locker, surprised to see so high.

11. Danny Boyle - Yeah he is consistently great.

10. John  Hughes - Need to see more.

9. Joel & Ethan Coen - Can't argue with those.

8. Martin Scorsese - Used to be great.

7. Rian Johnson -  ???

6. Paul Thomas Anderson - Kinda overrated around these parts.

5. Lynne Ramsay -  ???

4. Chris Marker -  ???

3. Sergio Leone - A master, wish he lived longer...

2. Spike Jonze - I dunno, I think most of his greatness comes from his writer.

1. Hayao Miyazaki - A perfect way to end a list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 27, 2010, 01:45:11 AM

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12. Kathryn Bigelow

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5. Lynne Ramsay
Yay! Ladies!


(http://www.newwavefilm.com/images/chris-marker.jpg)
4. Chris Marker
Yay! Marker! Won't be this high on my list, but he'll definitely make an appearance. Can't wait to see more, especially Description of a Struggle. I like his photographic work as well. I prefer him significantly to Raymond Depardon, who works in kinda similar spheres, judging by the little of what I've seen.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on October 27, 2010, 06:05:50 AM
Nice list 'Noke. A few of those seem a bit premature, but they don't bother me too much.

Banksy and McQueen after 1 film?

People don't need to be established to be awesome. Plus, it was either that or I would have to start adding Eastwood or Polanski.

Problem is I don't usually watch one movie by a director then try and watch as mnay as I can by the same director. It's usually just a matter of trying to see something by every director at the moment. Or something.

Nicely compiled list, 'Noke. MANN!  8) HAWKS!  :'( BORZAGE!  :'(

You know, like these second two?

Although I do have Three comrades on my computer, I'll watch it at some point.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 27, 2010, 06:12:53 AM
Nice list 'Noke. A few of those seem a bit premature, but they don't bother me too much.

Banksy and McQueen after 1 film?

People don't need to be established to be awesome. Plus, it was either that or I would have to start adding Eastwood or Polanski.

Problem is I don't usually watch one movie by a director then try and watch as mnay as I can by the same director. It's usually just a matter of trying to see something by every director at the moment. Or something.
Yeah, don't feel bad. I'm likely to follow suit. If they're good, they're good. You don't need 25 films as evidence.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on October 27, 2010, 08:17:09 AM
Nice list 'Noke. A few of those seem a bit premature, but they don't bother me too much.

Banksy and McQueen after 1 film?

People don't need to be established to be awesome. Plus, it was either that or I would have to start adding Eastwood or Polanski.

Problem is I don't usually watch one movie by a director then try and watch as mnay as I can by the same director. It's usually just a matter of trying to see something by every director at the moment. Or something.
Yeah, don't feel bad. I'm likely to follow suit. If they're good, they're good. You don't need 25 films as evidence.

I don't know, I feel like at least watching two or three is necessary to judge a director. If one film was enough I might have people like Joel Schumacher after seeing Falling Down.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 27, 2010, 09:11:20 AM
I don't know, I feel like at least watching two or three is necessary to judge a director. If one film was enough I might have people like Joel Schumacher after seeing Falling Down.

I feel like you can credit people continued success until they prove otherwise. There's a difference between a director who has only made one film and it is incredible and a director who has made ten films of which you've seen one, that is incredible. At least in the case of my list, the vast majority of the directors I included with three or fewer films seen were directors who had made three or fewer films.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 27, 2010, 09:25:39 AM
Thanks for the Bergmann list MT I will keep it on my switchboard. I think I need to clear the boards so I can give his films their own time and space, and really get into his style.

Z, the only list that won't have Nolan or Malick or Allen on will be yours it sounds like.

Why the trouble with making a top 100? If you take the view that a director is great after one film (I may not agree but opinion's will vary and all count) then listing 100 isn't that hard, though I accept the age argument means some won't have had the chance to see that many films, so I am not aiming this at you noke. surely Debra Granik should be on a few lists if the 1 good film applies. Winter's Bone IS that good.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 27, 2010, 09:54:57 AM
I just want to point out that we are submitting ballots of 50 directors, not 100.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on October 27, 2010, 11:17:53 AM
Cool list, 'N.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on October 27, 2010, 12:13:10 PM
I just want to point out that we are submitting ballots of 50 directors, not 100.
Change the name then. And WE aren't, you are

Pls post any suggestions here.

Here's what you need to do. PM me a ranked list of 50 directors by November 30th, 2010.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 27, 2010, 02:02:44 PM
We always talk in the first-person using the royal we ;)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 27, 2010, 03:04:57 PM
Posted a list previously. This is more comprehensive and off the back of an awful lot of film-watching;

1   Alfred Hitchcock
2   Billy Wilder
3   Akira Kurosawa
4   Stanley Kubrick
5   Coens
6   Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
7   Sidney Lumet
8   Sergio Leone
9   Pedro Almodovar
10   David Fincher
11   David Lynch
12   Alan J Pakula
13   John Huston
14   William Friedkin
15   Park Chan Wook
16   David Lean
17   Ridley Scott
18   Francis Ford Coppola
19   Alexander MacKendrick
20   Michael Mann
21   Steven Spielberg
22   Martin Scorcese
23   Jean-Pierre Melville
24   Steven Soderbergh
25   Quentin Tarantino
26   Danny Boyle
27   Preston Sturges
28   Roman Polanski
29   Spike Lee
30   Alfonso Cuaron
31   Richard Linklater                                                                          
32   Terence Mallick
33   Michael Curtiz
34   Howard Hawks
35   Orson Welles
36   Gus van Sant
37   James Cameron
38   Woody Allen
39   Robert Altman
40   John Ford
41   Peter Weir
42   John Carpenter
43   Stephen Frears
44   George Romero
45   Paul Greengrass
46   Peter Jackson
47   Guillermo Del Toro
48   Rob Reiner
49   Carol Reed
50   George Cukor
51   Sam Raimi
52   Samuel Wood
53   Jim Sheridan
54   Christopher Nolan
55   Alan Parker
56   David Cronenberg
57   Michael Winterbottom
58   Jason Reitman
59   Cameron Crowe
60   Phillip Kaufman
61   Spike Jonze
62   Wes Craven
63   Ang Lee
64   Milos Foreman
65   Luc Besson
66   Terry Jones
67   Fred Zinnemann
68   Stanley Donen
69   Wachowski Brothers
70   Oliver Stone
71   Tim Burton
72   Clint Eastwood
73   John Sturges
74   Barry Levinson
75   John Landis
76   Johnathon Demme
77   John Schlesinger
78   Kevin Smith
79   Walter Hill
80   Brian de Palma
81   Kathryn Bigelow
82   Robert Wise
83   Joseph L. Mankiewicz
84   Lawrence Kasdan
85   Mike Newell
86   Bryan Singer
87   Ron Shelton
88   John Badham
89   Mike Figgis
90   John Hughes
91   Terence Young
92   Jim Jarmusch
93   John Boorman
94   Frank Oz
95   Matthew Vaughan
96   Mike Hodges
97   Neil Jordan
98   Guy Hamilton
99   Don Siegel
100   Richard Attenborough
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 27, 2010, 11:17:57 PM
The complete and utter lack of Guy Maddin on any list brings a lone tear to my face.

I though he had fans around here...


Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 27, 2010, 11:22:18 PM
The complete and utter lack of Guy Maddin on any list brings a lone tear to my face.

I though he had fans around here...

I honestly can't decide if I'm a fan or not.  I love his idiosyncratic nature and his utterly unique style, but in execution I find it a bit tiresome.  I should check out more of his shorts because I think "Heart of the World" is his best work.  Maybe I can only tolerate him in small doses.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on October 27, 2010, 11:31:38 PM
The complete and utter lack of Guy Maddin on any list brings a lone tear to my face.

I though he had fans around here...

I honestly can't decide if I'm a fan or not.  I love his idiosyncratic nature and his utterly unique style, but in execution I find it a bit tiresome.  I should check out more of his shorts because I think "Heart of the World" is his best work.  Maybe I can only tolerate him in small doses.

There are three groups with Maddin:

1.  What the hell is this crap??
2.  Wow, this is brilliant.
3.  Good in small doses.

I am in the second group, you are evidently in the third.  I think alot of people like the style but hate the actual films; I on the other hand think that behind the weird cinematography, art direction, and sound design, he is actually a really good director in the traditional sense.  If you have not seen Careful and especially My Winnipeg, check them out, both great.  Also, you should do one of your director polls on him.      
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 28, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
I feel like I view Madden as a novelty. Interesting but ultimately a bit kitschy to be truly valuable.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on October 28, 2010, 05:49:29 AM
1. I forgot him.

2. I've only seen one of his films, which was one of my criteria. So he wouldn't have made it anyways. LOVE My Winnipeg though.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 28, 2010, 10:07:39 AM
Never seen any really is a killer argument, isn't it?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 28, 2010, 12:55:15 PM
Here's my list.  I basically asked myself, "If I knew this director was in charge of a film, how likely am I to watch it, just based on that?"  Thus, Woody Allen and Alfred Hitchcock-- excellent directors, both-- won't make my list.  I'm neither more or less likely to watch a film on their names alone.   These are the only directors I can think of that would get me watching their film simply based on their name and what I've already seen of their films.  It also means they have a distinctive style that I recognize and appreciate.

1.   Hayao Miyazaki
2.   Krzysztof Kieslowski
3.   Joel and Ethan Coen
4.   Quentin Tarantino
5.   Akira Kurosawa
6.   Gus Van Sant
7.   Andrew Stanton
8.   Terry Gilliam
9.   Christopher Nolan
10.   James Cameron
11.   Paul Greengrass
12.   Spike Jonze
13.   Roman Polanski
14.   M. Night Shaymalan
15.   Robert Rodriguez
16.   Francis Ford Coppola
17.   Powell and Pressburger
18.   Frank Capra
19.   Richard Linklater
20.   Wong Kar-Wai
21.   Steven Spielberg
22.   Michael Heneke
23.   Charlie Chaplain
24.   Robert Altman
25.   Mira Nair
26.   Howard Hawks
27.   Spike Lee
28.   Fredrico Fellini
29.   Buster Keaton
30.   Billy Wilder
31.   Katheryn Bigalow
32.   Stanley Kubrick
33.   John Lasseter
34.   Tim Burton
35.   Orson Welles
36.   Werner Herzog
37.   David Lynch
38.   Kelly Reichart
39.   Steven Soderbergh
40.   Sergio Leone
41.    Brad Bird
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on October 28, 2010, 02:09:13 PM
High Five for Miyazaki! And Kieslowski! Awesome!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 28, 2010, 03:01:34 PM
High Five for Miyazaki! And Kieslowski! Awesome!

I only choose them because they are the best   :) ;) :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: dallegre on October 29, 2010, 09:43:26 PM
Let me precede my list by saying that it's pretty messy. I'm sure that I'll end up adding/subtracting/shuffling a lot of the directors on the list before I make my official submission. Also, there are a LOT* of directors that I haven't seen any of, or enough of to list, so if my list has any glaring omissions, that's more than likely the reason. They're listed by name, and by the film which I feel is their greatest.

1. Stanley Kubrick - 2001: A Space Odyssey
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2. Werner Herzog - Little Dieter Needs to Fly
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/herzog.jpg?t=1288405724)
3. Steven Spielberg - Munich
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/spielberg.jpg?t=1288405763)
4. Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill: Volume 1
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5. Hayao Miyazaki - Princess Mononoke
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6. Paul Thomas Anderson - Punch-Drunk Love
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7. Chan-wook Park - Lady Vengeance
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8. Martin Scorsese - Goodfellas
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9. Steven Soderbergh - Out of Sight
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10. Christopher Nolan - Memento
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/nolan.jpg?t=1288406178)
11. Danny Boyle - 28 Days Later
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/boyle.jpg?t=1288406225)
12. Joel & Ethan Coen - The Big Lebowski
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/coens.jpg?t=1288406257)
13. Spike Lee - 25th Hour
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/spikelee.jpg?t=1288406288)
14. Francis Ford Coppola - The Godfather
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/coppola.jpg?t=1288406321)
15. Joon-ho Bong - Memories of Murder
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/joonho.jpg?t=1288406352)
16. Spike Jonze - Adaptation
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/jonze.jpg?t=1288406379)
17. Sergio Leone - The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/leone.jpg?t=1288406400)
18. Terrence Malick - The New World
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/malick.jpg?t=1288406429)
19. Sidney Lumet - Dog Day Afternoon
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/lumet.jpg?t=1288406457)
20. Clint Eastwood - Unforgiven
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/dallegre/eastwood.jpg?t=1288406483)
21. Ang Lee - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
22. Alfonso Cuaron - Children of Men
23. Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings trilogy
24. Darren Aronofsky - Requiem for a Dream
25. Guillermo del Toro - Pan's Labyrinth
26. Peter Weir - The Truman Show
27. Akira Kurosawa - High and Low
28. David Cronenberg - Eastern Promises
29. David Fincher - Se7en
30. Terry Gilliam - The Fisher King
31. Gus Van Sant - Good Will Hunting
32. George Lucas - Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
33. Stephen Frears - The Queen
34. Rob Reiner - This is Spinal Tap
35. James Cameron - Terminator 2: Judgement Day
36. David Lean - Lawrence of Arabia
37. Errol Morris - The Thin Blue Line
38. Richard Linklater - Before Sunset
39. Woody Allen - Annie Hall
40. Frank Darabont - The Shawshank Redemption
41. Charlie Kaufman - Synecdoche, New York
42. Paul Greengrass - United 93
43. Cameron Crowe - Vanilla Sky
44. Wong Kar-wai - Chungking Express
45. Ridley Scott - Blade Runner
46. Robert Zemeckis - Forrest Gump
47. Michel Gondry - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
48. Rian Johnson - Brick
49. Ramin Bahrani - Goodbye Solo
50. Oliver Stone - Born on the Fourth of July


*Kenji Mizoguchi, Takeshi Kitano, Takashi Miike, John Woo, Johnnie To, Michael Haneke, Lars von Trier, Ingmar Bergman, Jacques Tati, Alfred Hitchcock, Billy Wilder, Orson Welles, Krzysztof Kieslowski, John Ford, Howard Hawks, Pedro Almodovar, Charles Chaplin, David Lynch, Jean-Luc Godard, Francois Truffaut, Jean Renoir, Federico Fellini, Buster Keaton, Milos Forman, Edward Yang, Agnes Varda, F.W. Murnau, Atom Egoyan, Jim Jarmusch, Andrei Tarkovsky, John Carpenter, Yimou Zhang, and Apichatpong Weerasethakul are just a few.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 29, 2010, 11:21:06 PM
Just one woman mentioned?

Yes, I am gonna harp on this. No, my own list won't be much better (this year).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 29, 2010, 11:32:23 PM
I've got three women on mine, and I'm proud of that.

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Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 29, 2010, 11:53:47 PM
9. Gurinder Chadha
(Bend It Like Beckham, Bride and Prejudice)

13. Andrea Arnold
(Fish Tank, Red Road)

18. Deepa Mehta
(Earth, Fire, Water)

41. Niki Caro
(North Country, Whale Rider)

I've got four but generally the ones that are there are well up the list. There are certainly women with large filmographies but a lot of the best female filmmakers are pretty new to the scene so they just don't have the quantity to overwhelm some of these gray legends.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 30, 2010, 12:14:09 AM
Just one woman mentioned?

Yes, I am gonna harp on this.


Maybe you shouldn't?  The world of directing is notoriously a sausage fest.  It's unfortunate, but that's the state of things.  Few women end up as directors, fewer get a fair shake, even fewer leave their mark, fewer still manage to produce more than a handful of great works.  Would you rather people add women to their list of personal favorites out of sheer tokenism?

Don't hate the playas, hate the game.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 30, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
Just one woman mentioned?

Yes, I am gonna harp on this.


Maybe you shouldn't?  The world of directing is notoriously a sausage fest.  It's unfortunate, but that's the state of things.  Few women end up as directors, fewer get a fair shake, even fewer leave their mark, fewer still manage to produce more than a handful of great works.  Would you rather people add women to their list of personal favorites out of sheer tokenism?

Don't hate the playas, hate the game.

I certainly hate the game and I'm glad that some folks like Mira Nair and Kathryn Bigalow get their chance to really make a mark-- they will be paving the way for some unbelievably great women later on.

In the meantime, I think that we should be seeking out women that are worthy.  It's easy to forget someone.  If we do forget someone (like I forgot Rian Johnson), let it not be a woman.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 30, 2010, 12:38:36 AM
In the meantime, I think that we should be seeking out women that are worthy.

I agree with that completely.  I myself am reminded to check out more by Sally Potter, whose Orlando is wonderful.  I'm just saying, let's not harangue people into including people they don't want to, just out of some well-meaning but misguided sense of fair play.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 30, 2010, 12:43:00 AM
In the meantime, I think that we should be seeking out women that are worthy.

I agree with that completely.  I myself am reminded to check out more by Sally Potter, whose Orlando is wonderful.  I'm just saying, let's not harangue people into including people they don't want to, just out of some well-meaning but misguided sense of fair play.

That's fair. 

Maybe just a LITTLE haranguing?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: THATguy on October 30, 2010, 12:57:19 AM
I already kind of dislike my list, especially the lower parts, but it's by and large old American white guys (and old American white guys who have long since passed away).  I'll include my favorite film of theirs.

1.   Billy Wilder - Double Indemnity
2.   Alfred Hitchcock - Shadow of a Doubt
3.   Hayao Miyazaki - Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
4.   Woody Allen - Crimes & Misdemeanors
5.   Martin Scorsese - The Last Temptation of Christ
6.   Pedro Almodovar - Bad Education
7.   Stanley Kubrick - Paths of Glory
8.   Sergio Leone - Once Upon a Time in the West
9.   Stanley Donen - Singin' in the Rain
10.   Orson Welles - Citizen Kane
11.   Darren Aronofsky - Requiem for a Dream
12.   Frank Capra - It Happened One Night
13.   Akira Kurosawa - Rashomon
14.   Michel Gondry - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
15.   David Lynch - Mulholland Drive
16.   The Coen Brothers - The Big Lebowski
17.   Michael Curtiz - Casablanca
18.   Quentin Tarantino - Jackie Brown
19.   Sidney Lumet - 12 Angry Men
20.   Satoshi Kon - Paprika
21.   Powell & Pressburger - The Red Shoes
22.   John Lasseter - Toy Story
23.   Danny Boyle - Slumdog Millionaire
24.   Tim Burton - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
25.   Francis Ford Coppola - The Godfather
26.   Milos Forman - The People vs. Larry Flynt
27.   Mike Nichols - Closer
28.   Tom McCarthy - The Station Agent
29.   Andrew Stanton - Wall-E
30.   Edgar Wright - Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
31.   John Carpenter - Escape From New York
32.   Zhang Yimou - Hero
33.   John Hughes - Ferris Bueller's Day Off
34.   Isao Takahata - Grave of the Fireflies
35.   Steven Spielberg - Schindler's List
36.   Jean-Pierre Jeunet - Amelie
37.   Chan-wook Park - Oldboy
38.   Brad Bird - The Iron Giant
39.   Spike Jonze - Where the Wild Things Are
40.   George Cukor - The Philadelphia Story
41.   Guillermo Del Toro - Pan's Labyrinth
42.   David Cronenberg - Dead Ringers
43.   Fritz Lang - M
44.   Ridley Scott - Blade Runner
45.   Christopher Nolan - Inception
46.   Stephen Frears - Dangerous Liasons
47.   Robert Rodriguez - Desperado
48.   Spike Lee - 25th Hour
49.   Vicente Minelli - The Band Wagon
50.   Kevin Smith - Clerks.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: dallegre on October 30, 2010, 08:40:18 AM
Just one woman mentioned?

Yes, I am gonna harp on this. No, my own list won't be much better (this year).

This occured to me as I was making my list, but honestly the only two women who were in serious contention were Sofia Coppola and Katheryn Bieglow, and I just frankly don't like either of them enough to put them on a top 50 list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 30, 2010, 08:50:52 AM
Debra Granik is about the only current director I would consider putting on my list after one film. Winter's Bone is that good.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 30, 2010, 11:21:16 AM
Debra Granik is about the only current director I would consider putting on my list after one film. Winter's Bone is that good.

She'd be in consideration...need to see Down To The Bone first. Nicole Kassel would definitely be in contention if I'd seen more than just one film from her (she's only made one) as it is my #3 film of all time. That Martin McDonough also has an Oscar winning short helped get him in over either of them (albeit at #50).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 30, 2010, 11:49:29 AM
When exactly are these lists due again?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: dallegre on October 30, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
Pls post any suggestions here.

Here's what you need to do. PM me a ranked list of 50 directors by November 30th, 2010.



Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 30, 2010, 11:23:32 PM
I don't necessarily want to push people to include women just because they're women. I could just as loudly make the same comments about queer directors, or black directors.

I harp on it because this is the environment to do it. This forum is not full of casual filmgoers. Everyone here is passionate about film, and keen to further explore what cinema is and discover greatness, and personally, I think the compiling of a top 100 directors of all time is the perfect time to say hold up, why aren't we watching more by female directors?

I'm just as guilty, let's be clear. I'm only gonna be able to have three or four on the list without resorting to tokenism, which I wouldn't. But I'm planning to do something about that soon. Complacency is only gonna see us continue to make lists of dead white men.

Personally, what gets me is that I love Agnes Varda. To spoil it, she's gonna be at the very top of my list. And yeah, it's only this year that I've really seen any of her films, but seeing her so largely ignored upsets me, because she's so clearly great. MT, I'm sure you feel the same way about Satyajit Ray around here (who I'll admit to only having seen one film by).

And it's not like women aren't doing good work. Varda is clearly doing phenomenal stuff. I think Denis is too, although I know she doesn't always work for everyone. Chantal Akerman is one I'd love to explore more by. Same with a whole host of others. And like I said, I could be just as up about queer directors. Where's Gregg Araki (who will make my list, but I totally understand why he won't make most)?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on October 30, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
I'm sure the number of films I watch that are directed by women is proportional to the number of women directing films.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 31, 2010, 12:09:23 AM
I feel I have to look at this thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3609.msg481334#msg481334) once a month just to remind myself which directors I need to be seeking out more from. It's one thing if I simply am not liking their films but another if I'm not even watching them.

I do feel like the fact that the names that are generally thrown around like Varda (who I need to try something from), Akerman, Denis (I hated 35 Shots of Rum), etc are mixtures non-contemporary and art-house. If there is one thing my list is, it is contemporary and relatively mainstream. Partly due to what I've been exposed to (that I try to broaden every month) and part is my film preferences. There isn't a lot to choose from in terms of mainstream female directors with expansive filmographies. Bigelow is one of the more notable examples (and then some of the Nancy Meyers, Nora Ephron ilk).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 31, 2010, 12:15:56 AM
I'm sure the number of films I watch that are directed by women is proportional to the number of women directing films.

Exactly.  I doubt anyone here is specifically avoiding women directors.  They're just aren't that many of them.  

FCM: Not everyone is as passionate about Varda as you, deal with it.  Like you said, you only discovered her this year so you shouldn't really get all pissy about everyone else not worshipping her.  You've got the fanaticism of a recent convert... but I've been guilty of that too sometimes, so I understand. But no, I don't get upset when people haven't seen much Satyajit Ray (who I only discovered 7 years ago).  He's not a mainstream director and his films aren't easily obtained.  I do get upset that I can't get decent DVDs of his films and have to resort to cheap imports, though (c'mon Criterion....)

As for queer directors, I've got Tsai, Almodovar and Weerasethakul all in my top 25.

(oh, and from what I've seen, there are a handful of "casual filmgoers" on this forum.  I won't name names though :) )
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 31, 2010, 12:19:02 AM
I feel I have to look at this thread (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3609.msg481334#msg481334) once a month just to remind myself which directors I need to be seeking out more from.

Oh man, I forgot that Niki Caro followed up the lovely Whale Rider with the godawful North Country.  This is another reason I don't have a lot of women in my top 100... so many of them seem to ruin their own careers.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 31, 2010, 12:21:53 AM
North Country and not Whale Rider is the primary reason she made my list, though I did like both. To think I held off on North Country for so long because I was holding Monster against Charlize Theron.

(oh, and from what I've seen, there are a handful of "casual filmgoers" on this forum.  I won't name names though :) )

Is that "casual" filmgoer or "casual film" goer. Because one probably doesn't watch a lot of movies, the other may watch a lot of movies, just not pretentious crap :D

As to queer cinema...John Cameron Mitchell and Gus Van Sant are the two that jump out but then I don't know the sexual orientation of all the directors off the top of my head (my top 50 bands/artists list would be overrun by lesbians). Ethnic minority representation is a little trickier. I have plenty of non-white people, but they aren't minorities in the film industry that they are a product of.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 31, 2010, 12:33:15 AM
Exactly.  I doubt anyone here is specifically avoiding women directors.  They're just aren't that many of them.

In a theatrical distribution and/or mainstream studio financing context, you're correct.  But overall, there are lots of women making films that make the indie, festival, or arthouse circuits or are available on VHS or DVD (a lot are available on Netflix, for example).  Places like Women Make Movies make some festival / tv titles available for home purchase.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 31, 2010, 02:16:38 PM
Some of us just watch movies to watch movies. I don't care or know whether the director is a man or a woman 98% of the time.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on October 31, 2010, 05:30:58 PM
Some of us just watch movies to watch movies. I don't care or know whether the director is a man or a woman 98% of the time.

Exactly. I seek out movies that I think that I will enjoy, not to satisfy a novelty quota. If I see a movie by a female director it's because I was interested in the movie, not because of the gender of a production member. There will be no women directors on my list simply because there is no woman director that I have seen a sufficient number of films by of a high enough quality to be considered. Take Kelly Reichardt for example. She did Wendy and Lucy, which I think is a pretty extraordinary film, and if she did (and I saw) five films of Wendy and Lucy-quality, she would be high on my list. Unfortunately, she only has three features to her credit and the other two don't really interest me and neither was particularly warmly received.

Take Kathryn Bigelow as another example. I've seen two films by her - The Hurt Locker and Strange Days. Now, while I loved The Hurt Locker, I found Strange Days to be almost shockingly awful. Knowing that she has a good amount of credits, I look through her filmography and I can't say I'm particularly excited by Blue Steel or K-19: The Widowermaker. She would have to have several more Hurt Lockers up her sleeve (and no more Strange Days) for me to consider her.

Even moving into more acclaimed female directors, I'm not too thrilled at this point. The one woman that seems to have the best chance at cracking my list (according to the acclaim on this board) is Agnès Varda, and even she doesn't really get me going. The only film by her that I've seen is Cléo from 5 to 7 and I was rather unimpressed by it. Not that I thought it was bad, it was just OK. Looking through her filmography, the only two movies that I'm interested in irrespective of her being a woman are The Gleaners & I and Vagabond. Even if I really liked those movies she wouldn't make my list due to too much competition from old dead white guys (whom I enjoy for reasons that have nothing to do with them being old, dead, white, and/or guys). The Gleaners & I and Vagabond could potentially capture my imagination and make me want to see more Varda films, but if they are only as good as Cléo from 5 to 7, that won't happen.  :-\

Incidentally, the whole thing is absurd. The female factor doesn't (or shouldn't) count for more than the "gay" factor or the "black" factor or any other novelty factor that should have nothing to do with why anyone watches anything. It is a pretty funny thought that much of the flake in this thread (and around the board) is about the lack of female representation and not something altogether different, because it shouldn't count for more than anything else. Someone could make the case that the concentration on female directors is distracting from the "real" issue of the underepresentation of Indian or Czechoslovakian or Hungarian cinema and filmmakers. How many people are skipping over Marketa Lazarová so that they can see Whip It and what does it matter?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on October 31, 2010, 05:48:31 PM
How many people are skipping over Marketa Lazarová so that they can see Whip It and what does it matter?

I've seen Marketa, but not Whip It.   ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on October 31, 2010, 06:14:40 PM
How many people are skipping over Marketa Lazarová so that they can see Whip It and what does it matter?

I've seen Marketa, but not Whip It.   ;D

Sexist.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 31, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
I don't know what this Marketa Lazarova is, but Whip It is solid entertainment.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on October 31, 2010, 06:35:08 PM
I don't know what this Marketa Lazarova is, but Whip It is solid entertainment.

Racist.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 31, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
For those who watch a lot of films, I think that we should be seeking out more female directors.  That doesn't mean we have to like them, or they should be on our top 100 lists because they are female.  But because women haven't been given as much opportunity as men to be directors, it would be helpful if we seek out female directors just to do our part in changing the system in order to give more female directors a shot. 

Around the forum here, most of us watch films we may not be interested in just to try out something someone else appreciate.  If we all tried out female directors, just to give them a shot, then that would increase their audience and the powers that be will perhaps give other, newer female directors a chance.

By the way, Javi, you should check out Bigalow's Point Break.  Almost as good as Hurt Locker, not quite.

And last night I saw Winter's Bone.  Everyone should be checking that out.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 31, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
Point Break is waaaaay better than Hurt Locker. Does Hurt Locker have Nixon moon people? Does it have Keanu Reeves? I rest my case.

I'll be checking out at least one female director soon. If not by the end of the year, then definitely sometime in the spring.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on October 31, 2010, 09:00:47 PM
Point Break is waaaaay better not as good Hurt Locker. Does Hurt Locker have have Keanu Reeves? I rest my case.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 31, 2010, 09:12:25 PM
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Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on October 31, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
I think with the auteurist inclination here, very few of us here mostly watch a movie just to watch a movie in that who directed the film doesn't matter.  And in the context of a director marathon like viewing schedule, it's often one of the main reasons why most Filmspotters check out a film.  It's just that most of the time, the director is a white man.  Here, I don't think it's a case of folks specifically limiting their movie experience to only films directed by white men.  In widening the context to the movie community, period, ethnicity, gender, etc. plays a role in what gets watched, what gets made, what gets distributed, what gets extensive press coverage, etc.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 01, 2010, 12:16:44 AM
Near Dark is waaaaay better than Point Break.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on November 01, 2010, 12:36:39 AM
Back off, Warchild.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on November 01, 2010, 12:49:06 AM
But because women haven't been given as much opportunity as men to be directors, it would be helpful if we seek out female directors just to do our part in changing the system in order to give more female directors a shot. 

Around the forum here, most of us watch films we may not be interested in just to try out something someone else appreciate.  If we all tried out female directors, just to give them a shot, then that would increase their audience and the powers that be will perhaps give other, newer female directors a chance.

Eh, just because there aren't a lot of female film directors it doesn't mean that they aren't being given shots. I went to two film schools and there were very few women in the programs (like 90% men to 10% women) and none of the ones I met wanted to be directors. Most wanted to be producers or editors and this is reflected in the "real" world with a good number of professional female producers and editors and not directors. Furthermore, many women who are directors are in television and not film, maybe because they like the relative stability or something. Too many people assume some nefarious institutionalized plot when really interest is the problem. It's similar to how not many women are engineers; despite recent pushes to recruit more women they don't seem to have the interest for whatever reason.

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And last night I saw Winter's Bone.  Everyone should be checking that out.

I saw it and didn't like it. There's been this whole big rash of poverty movies lately with Winter's Bone, Shotgun Stories, Ballast, Chop Shop, Wendy and Lucy, and Frozen River just to name a very few and I found Winter's Bone to be a very generic version of the genre at large. Nothing about it's tone or characterization made it stand out at all and it just seemed like a duller and more clichéd version of the films coming out recently plus one good scene (that is fairly stupid when you think about it).

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I think with the auteurist inclination here, very few of us here mostly watch a movie just to watch a movie in that who directed the film doesn't matter.

It's not that the director doesn't matter, it's that the director doesn't matter until the director gives me a reason why they should matter. I won't see Movie X by Woman Y (for that reason alone) unless Woman Y has given me a reason to care that she made Movie X. Take the movie Moon for example. Moon was directed by Duncan Jones, which meant nothing to me before I saw the film because it was his first credit. I saw the movie because it was well reviewed, not because Duncan Jones directed it. But now having seen Moon, the name Duncan Jones means something to me. I liked the film so much that I will see his next film based on the fact that he is directing it. Conversely, take Sean McNamara - the auteur behind Bratz: The Movie and The Even Stevens Movie. McMamara doesn't have the same good will with me that Duncan Jones does because both McNamara movies I named are terrible. Therefore when I see "Directed by Sean McNamara," I'm not going to have the same drive to see the movie that I will have when I see "Directed by Duncan Jones." So any female director, in order to matter to me, will have to do the same thing that any male director must do to get me to care - make good movies. If a female director makes an Bratz-quality film, I won't be inclined to see her further films. However, if she makes a Moon-quality film, I will be inclined to see further films. It's really that simple.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on November 01, 2010, 01:08:46 AM
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I think with the auteurist inclination here, very few of us here mostly watch a movie just to watch a movie in that who directed the film doesn't matter.

It's not that the director doesn't matter, it's that the director doesn't matter until the director gives me a reason why they should matter.

No disagreement from me.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on November 07, 2010, 01:13:10 PM
After attempting to compile a list of my favorite directors I have come to the conclusion that my knowledge and experience does not run deep enough for me to compile and submit a list for this top 100. That being said, my plan is to marathon the list that is developed by this project and come back next year ready to go.

I will make a few suggestions that missed the list last time however: Joe Wright, David Gordon Green, Cameron Crowe, Rob Reiner and John Hughes. Just a few FYC's. Excited to see the list!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on November 07, 2010, 02:46:38 PM
Rob Reiner will make my list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on November 07, 2010, 03:18:08 PM
...and Ichikawa my list, thanks for recommend Teller.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 07, 2010, 04:02:25 PM
...and Ichikawa my list, thanks for recommend Teller.

Nice! :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on November 08, 2010, 01:00:03 PM
After attempting to compile a list of my favorite directors I have come to the conclusion that my knowledge and experience does not run deep enough for me to compile and submit a list for this top 100. That being said, my plan is to marathon the list that is developed by this project and come back next year ready to go.

I will make a few suggestions that missed the list last time however: Joe Wright, David Gordon Green, Cameron Crowe, Rob Reiner and John Hughes. Just a few FYC's. Excited to see the list!

All input is worth while, you should consider at least putting in a top 10.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on November 08, 2010, 01:09:52 PM
I have come to the conclusion that my knowledge and experience does not run deep enough for me to compile and submit a list for this top 100.

That's never stopped me. ;D I'm planning on marathoning those on my ballot who I'm presently basing on only a couple films so they can either be more firmly enmeshed or else evicted.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on November 08, 2010, 01:39:19 PM
Some of us just have more confidence in our inexperienced opinions than others.

The way I figure it, whatever mistakes I make will be balanced out by the masses of other wiser filmspotters than I.  I am just one small vote among the hordes.  Democracy in action!  :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 08, 2010, 04:27:32 PM
I should do this, but I don't know when I will find the time. Was gonna do it this evening, but I've got two things going on back to back.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on November 08, 2010, 05:22:57 PM
okay. i do have til the end of the month.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on November 11, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
okay. i do have til the end of the month.

Excellent and yes
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on November 11, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
Here is what I got.

1. Terrence Malick (The New World, The Thin Red Line, Days of Heaven)
2. Steven Spielberg (Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Saving Private Ryan, The Terminal)
3. Ingmar Bergman (The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Persona)
4. Alfred Hitchcock (Rear Window, North by Northwest, Vertigo)
5. Gus Van Sant (Good Will Hunting, Elephant, Milk)
6. Billy Wilder (The Apartment, Sunset Blvd., Some Like it Hot)
7. Steven Soderbergh (Traffic, Ocean’s Eleven, The Girlfriend Experience)
8. Coen Brothers (A Serious Man, No Country for Old Men, Miller’s Crossing)
9. Robert Zemeckis (Forrest Gump, Back to the Future, Cast Away)
10. Francis Ford Coppola (Apocalypse Now, The Godfather Part II, The Godfather)
11. Rob Reiner (Stand By Me, When Harry Met Sally…, The Princess Bride)
12. Paul Thomas Anderson (There Will Be Blood, Magnolia, Punch Drunk Love)
13. Jonathan Demme (The Silence of the Lambs, Philadelphia, Rachel Getting Married)
14. Christopher Nolan (Inception, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight)
15. David Lean (Lawrence of Arabia, The Bridge on the River Kwai, A Passage to India)
16. Woody Allen (Annie Hall, Manhattan, Vicky Christina Barcelona)
17. Cameron Crowe (Almost Famous, Jerry Maguire, Elizabethtown)
18. Martin Scorsese (The Departed, The Aviator, Gangs of New York)
19. David Gordon Green (All the Real Girls, Pineapple Express, Snow Angels)
20. Joe Wright (Pride & Prejudice, Atonement, The Soloist)
21. Peter Weir (The Truman Show, Dead Poet’s Society, Master and Commander)
22. Rian Johnson (The Brothers Bloom, Brick)
23. Wolfgang Reitherman (Robin Hood, One Hundred and One Dalmatians, The Jungle Book)
24. John Hughes (The Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Uncle Buck)
25. Clint Eastwood (Unforgiven, Million Dollar Baby, A Perfect World)
26. Marc Forster (Stranger Than Fiction, Finding Neverland, Quantum of Solace)
27. Ron Clements & John Musker (Aladdin, The Great Mouse Detective, The Princess and the Frog)
28. Ridley Scott (Gladiator, Matchstick Men, Black Hawk Down)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on November 11, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
You see?  That wasn't so hard.  And what an excellent list!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on November 11, 2010, 06:11:33 PM
Great list corndog, I especially like seeing Gus Van Sant and Wilder so close to the top (watch Ace in the Hole if you haven't already as well as GVS's early stuff).  David Lean is also vastly underrated around these waters, and seeing Bergman is always a pleasure.  Unfortunately you did get some Zemeckis and Soderbergh on your list, try to wash them off.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on November 14, 2010, 05:29:48 AM
Nice list Corndog, yeah Peter Weir.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on November 23, 2010, 11:58:29 AM
Just sent in my list.  I'll fix this up and make it pretty when I have the time.  Would like to do short write-ups for each as well. The directors' sensibilities and my affinity with them outweighed how many great films they made which is why, for example, Morris Engel and Ruth Orkin rank so high.  I just love the modest and quotidian feel of their lovely photographed stories that ooze incredible warmth for the characters.  Also, style factored in more than the number of great films which is why Koreeda ranked low (despite my love for Distance and Nobody Knows, I'm not a fan of the handheld camerawork) and Jancso ranked higher than Koreeda because of my love for the former's visual aesthetic even though with the exception of The Round-Up, I'd chose the best Koreeda to watch over the best Jancso most days.  My fave for each is in parentheses.  For most, it was difficult to chose just one, but chose only one, I did

1. Jean Renoir (The Rules of the Game)
2. Frederick Wiseman (Welfare)
3. Claire Denis (Vendredi soir)
4. Terence Davies (The Long Day Closes)
5. Krzysztof Kieslowski (The Decalogue)
6. Chris Marker (La jetee)
7. Yasujiro Ozu (Early Summer)
8. Morris Engel and Ruth Orkin (Lovers and Lollipops)
9. Milos Forman (Black Peter)
10. Hou Hsiao-hsien (Café Lumiere)
11. Ermanno Olmi (I Fidanzati)
12. Albert and David Maysles (Gimme Shelter)
13. Kim Longinotto (Hold Me Tight, Let Me Go)
14. Allan King (A Married Couple)
15. Agnes Varda (Jacquot de Nantes)
16. Francis Ford Coppola (The Godfather Part 2)
17. Miklos Jancso (The Round-Up)
18. Hal Hartley (Surviving Desire)
19. Jacques Tati (Mon Oncle)
20. Bill Forsyth (Gregory’s Girl)
21. Hirokazu Koreeda (Still Walking)
22. Edward Yang (A Brighter Summer Day)
23. Eric Rohmer (My Night at Maud's)
24. Howard Hawks (Rio Bravo)
25. Wong Kar-wai (Happy Together)
26. Wim Wenders (Kings of the Road)
27. Aki Kaurismaki (Drifting Clouds)
28. Alfred Hitchcock (Shadow of a Doubt)
29. Masaki Kobayashi (Harakiri)
30. Masahiro Shinoda (Pale Flower)
31. Max Ophuls (La Ronde)
32. Akira Kurosawa (Red Beard)
33. Elaine May (A New Leaf)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on November 23, 2010, 12:20:33 PM
And who are these people again?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 23, 2010, 01:25:27 PM
Yeah, don't you know that everyone's list is supposed to have Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Stanley Kubrick, Brad Bird, Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen brothers and Hayao Miyazaki?  Come on, VS, get with the program!

Anyway, intriguing list.  I'm particularly happy to see Renoir, Kieslowski, Ozu, Olmi, Jancso, Tati, Kobayashi, and most of all Kaurismaki.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on November 23, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
Yeah, don't you know that everyone's list is supposed to have Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Stanley Kubrick, Brad Bird, Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen brothers and Hayao Miyazaki?  Come on, VS, get with the program!

Anyway, intriguing list.  I'm particularly happy to see Renoir, Kieslowski, Ozu, Olmi, Jancso, Tati, Kobayashi, and most of all Kaurismaki.

What do I get if I have 5 of the first 7 and 4 of the last 8 on my list?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on November 23, 2010, 03:26:41 PM
Anyway, intriguing list.  I'm particularly happy to see Renoir, Kieslowski, Ozu, Olmi, Jancso, Tati, Kobayashi, and most of all Kaurismaki.

I've kind of cooled off on Kaurismaki films for the moment.  I don't doubt that future rankings might have him higher.

Hawks!

Excellent list, Ver. Now I feel guilty regarding my sloth.  :-[

Thanks.  You categorize your movie-watching activity lately as sloth?  Seems like you've been watching a ton of 80s, Hawks, Lewis, and Tashlin films.  I can't imagine how much more dedicated you can get.  You put us all to shame.

As for Hawks, unfortunately, I wasn't able to do a Hawks retro.  It's possible he could've ranked higher.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on November 23, 2010, 04:50:05 PM
Yeah, don't you know that everyone's list is supposed to have Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Stanley Kubrick, Brad Bird, Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen brothers and Hayao Miyazaki?  Come on, VS, get with the program!

Ha. Ver's list is a great example of why I was apprehensive about making a list this go round. I feel like I will be discovering many wonderful films next year when I try and go through and catch up with these people I have never heard of, or in some cases, just never got to yet.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 24, 2010, 02:29:28 PM
Sorry for the lack of pretty pictures or references to the films that I believe make them truly great, but I'm so cramped for time nowadays that putting together a simple list was hard enough. In the interest of full disclosure I decided to not even look at the last list I submitted so it will be interesting to see how different this list ends up being, provided I can actually find the list I submitted a few years ago.

Here we go,

1. Hayao Miyazaki
2. Werner Herzog
3. David Cronenberg
4. Stanley Kubrick
5. Gus Van Sant
6. Sergio Leone
7. The Coen Brothers
8. Richard Linklater
9. Woody Allen
10. Andrew Stanton
11. Chan-wook Park
12. Billy Wilder
13. Kar-wai Wong
14. Alfred Hitchcock
15. F.W. Murnau
16. Akira Kurosawa
17. Charles Chaplin
18. Alfonso Cuaron
19. James Cameron
20. Frank Darabont
21. John Ford
22. Kelly Reichardt
23. Steven Soderbergh
24. Brad Bird
25. Guillermo del Toro
26. Paul Thomas Anderson
27. Isao Takahata
28. Rainer Werner Fassbinder
29. Wes Anderson
30. Marc Forster
31. Pete Docter
32. Clint Eastwood
33. Terrence Malick
34. Jean-Pierre Melville
35. Ron Clements & John Musker
36. Louis Malle
37. Frank Capra
38. Orson Welles
39. Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson & Hamilton Luske
40. Ingmar Bergman
41. Michael Curtiz
42. Steven Spielberg
43. George A. Romero
44. Takashi Miike
45. Robert Zemeckis
46. Ang Lee
47. Zack Snyder
48. John Carpenter
49. Sam Raimi
50. John McTiernan
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on November 24, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
Yeah, don't you know that everyone's list is supposed to have Christopher Nolan, Martin Scorsese, Stanley Kubrick, Brad Bird, Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen brothers and Hayao Miyazaki?  Come on, VS, get with the program!

Anyway, intriguing list.  I'm particularly happy to see Renoir, Kieslowski, Ozu, Olmi, Jancso, Tati, Kobayashi, and most of all Kaurismaki.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on November 27, 2010, 03:27:51 PM
All right, I'm pooped. I won't have time to cram into any more movies before the deadline, so I'm throwing in the towel a little early. Before diving in, I'm going to have to preface everything to explain how I compiled my list. First, I had to have seen at least five films for each director in order to give me a conformable sample size. Second, I rated all of the films that I had seen on a scale from zero to five stars going by half star increments. Everything ★★★ or higher is a positive rating and everything ★★1/2 or below is a negative rating, but here's a more specific breakdown:

★★★ - Good; a respectable film worth watching.
★★★1/2 - Very good; a film of high quality.
★★★★ - Great; a treasure
★★★★1/2 - A near-masterpiece; approaching an all-time great
★★★★★ - A masterpiece; an all-time great

★★1/2 - OK; not poorly made, but lacking emotional investment or some similar trait
★★ - Bad; having one or more serious flaw that ruins the film
★1/2 - Very bad; the film fails at many points and is painful to watch
★ - Awful; a disaster at every turn
1/2★ - Beyond awful; it doesn't just fail, it makes you angry
(zero stars) - Incompetent; a total failure at every level at filmmaking

Mostly ratings are positive though and few are less than ★★. I'm not rating the Brothers Strauss here. The third step was to put all of the scores together. I'm not a math person, but I came up with a formula intended to reconciled different sized filmographies and not unfairly punish or reward a director for the number of films I had seen by them. The formula I came up was (2A + B/2).

In 2A + B/2, A is an average of the director's five highest rated films and B is the average of all subsequent films. If I had only seen five films by a director, then B is the average of the two lowest rated films. This made it so that highly rated films influenced a director's rating more than poorly rated films, which I feel is fair. The highest possible rating that can be earned is 12.5. My number one director scored 11.43 and number fifty director scored 8.7. In the event of a tie I looked at the director's top one or two films to rank them.

Second-to-lastly, I have honorable mentions and apologies. Stanley Kramer, Jonathan Demme, Park Chan-wook, John Woo, Errol Morris, and Paul Thomas Anderson were the next directors according to my ratings that didn't make my list. Better luck next time fellas! Krzysztof Kieslowski, F.W. Murnau, Victor Fleming, and Kenji Mizoguchi on the other hand were virtual locks to make my list if I had seen the required five films for each. Kieslowski hurts in particular because I had planned on watching The Decalogue, but ran out of time.

Without any further ado, here is my list of the fifty best directors:

1. Alfred Hitchcock
Vertigo - ★★★★★
Psycho - ★★★★★
Notorious - ★★★★★
North by Northwest - ★★★★★
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956) - ★★★★★
Rear Window - ★★★★
Dial M for Murder - ★★★★
Shadow of a Doubt - ★★★★
Frenzy - ★★★★
The Lady Vanishes - ★★★1/2
The Trouble with Harry - ★★★1/2
Lifeboat - ★★★1/2
Saboteur - ★★★
Spellbound - ★★★
To Catch a Thief - ★★★
Rope - ★★★
Foreign Correspondent - ★★★
The Wrong Man - ★★1/2
The 39 Steps - ★★1/2
Torn Curtain - ★★1/2
Suspicion - ★★1/2
Sabotage - ★★1/2
The Birds - ★★1/2
Rebecca - ★★
Strangers on a Train - ★★
Marnie - ★★
Family Plot - ★★
Topaz - ★1/2

2. Stanley Kubrick
2001: A Space Odyssey - ★★★★★
Dr. Strangelove - ★★★★★
The Shining - ★★★★★
The Killing - ★★★★★
Paths of Glory - ★★★★★
Barry Lyndon - ★★★1/2
Spartacus - ★★★
Full Metal Jacket - ★★★
Eyes Wide Shut - ★★1/2
A Clockwork Orange - ★★

3. Akira Kurosawa
Seven Samurai - ★★★★★
Throne of Blood - ★★★★★
Sanjuro - ★★★★★
Yojimbo - ★★★★1/2
Ran - ★★★★1/2
Rashômon - ★★★★
Ikiru - ★★★★
High and Low - ★★★★
Kagemusha - ★★★1/2
The Hidden Fortress - ★★★
Stray Dog - ★★★
Drunken Angel - ★★★
I Live in Fear - ★★★
Scandal - ★★1/2

4. Ingmar Bergman
The Seventh Seal - ★★★★★
Persona - ★★★★★
Wild Strawberries - ★★★★★
Smiles of a Summer Night - ★★★★1/2
Cries and Whispers - ★★★★1/2
Fanny and Alexander - ★★★
The Virgin Spring - ★★★
Thirst - ★★1/2

5. Sergio Leone
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - ★★★★★
For a Few Dollars More - ★★★★★
Once Upon a Time in America - ★★★★★
Duck, You Sucker - ★★★★
Once Upon a Time in the West - ★★★★
A Fistful of Dollars - ★★★1/2

6. David Lean
Lawrence of Arabia - ★★★★★
The Bridge on the River Kwai - ★★★★★
Oliver Twist - ★★★★1/2
Summertime - ★★★★1/2
Great Expectations - ★★★★1/2
Hobson's Choice - ★★★
Doctor Zhivago - ★★★
Brief Encounter - ★★1/2

7. Hayao Miyazaki
Spirited Away - ★★★★★
Princess Mononoke - ★★★★★
My Neighbor Totoro - ★★★★1/2
Castle in the Sky - ★★★★1/2
Kiki's Delivery Service - ★★★★
Ponyo - ★★★1/2
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind - ★★★
Howl's Moving Castle - ★★★
Porco Rosso - ★★★

8. Quentin Tarantino
Inglourious Basterds - ★★★★★
Death Proof - ★★★★★
Kill Bill: Vol. 2 - ★★★★1/2
Pulp Fiction - ★★★★
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 - ★★★★
Reservoir Dogs - ★★★1/2
Jackie Brown - ★★★1/2

9. Martin Scorsese
Raging Bull - ★★★★★
Goodfellas - ★★★★★
The Departed - ★★★★★
Taxi Driver - ★★★★
Casino - ★★★★
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore - ★★★★
The Aviator - ★★★★
Mean Streets - ★★★1/2
Gangs of New York - ★★★1/2
Cape Fear - ★★★
The Last Temptation of Christ - ★★★
Kundun - ★★★
Shutter Island - ★★★
The Age of Innocence - ★★★
The Color of Money - ★★★
After Hours - ★★★
The King of Comedy - ★★1/2
Bringing Out the Dead - ★★1/2
Shine a Light - ★

10. John Ford
The Searchers - ★★★★★
The Grapes of Wrath - ★★★★★
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - ★★★★★
Fort Apache - ★★★★
Stagecoach - ★★★★
My Darling Clementine - ★★★1/2
Young Mr. Lincoln - ★★★
How Green Was My Valley - ★★1/2

11. Steven Spielberg
Raiders of the Lost Ark - ★★★★★
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - ★★★★★
Jaws - ★★★★1/2
Saving Private Ryan - ★★★★1/2
Minority Report - ★★★★
Catch Me If You Can - ★★★★
The Terminal - ★★★★
Jurassic Park - ★★★1/2
Schindler's List - ★★★1/2
Empire of the Sun - ★★★
Munich - ★★★
War of the Worlds - ★★★
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - ★★1/2
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - ★★1/2
Artificial Intelligence: A.I. - ★★1/2
Hook - ★★
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - ★★
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - ★★
E.T., the Extra-Terrestrial - ★1/2

12. Yasujirô Ozu
Floating Weeds - ★★★★★
Tôkyô Story - ★★★★★
An Autumn Afternoon - ★★★★★
Equinox Flower - ★★★★
The Only Son - ★★★1/2
Late Spring - ★★★1/2
A Story of Floating Weeds - ★★★
Good Morning - ★★★

13. Billy Wilder
Sunset Boulevard - ★★★★★
Double Indemnity - ★★★★★
Some Like It Hot - ★★★★1/2
One, Two, Three - ★★★★
Ace in the Hole - ★★★★
Witness for the Prosecution - ★★★★
Stalag 17 - ★★★★
The Lost Weekend - ★★
The Apartment - ★★

14. Luis Buñuel
The Exterminating Angel - ★★★★★
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - ★★★★★
Belle de Jour - ★★★★1/2
Viridiana - ★★★★
Los Olvidados - ★★★1/2
The Milky Way - ★★★
L'Age d'Or - ★★★

15. William Wyler
The Best Years of Our Lives - ★★★★★
Roman Holiday - ★★★★1/2
The Heiress - ★★★★1/2
Mrs. Miniver - ★★★★
Dodsworth - ★★★★
Dead End - ★★★1/2
Wuthering Heights - ★★★
The Letter - ★★★
Jezebel - ★★★
The Desperate Hours - ★★★
Ben-Hur - ★★1/2

16. Clint Eastwood
Unforgiven - ★★★★★
Million Dollar Baby - ★★★★1/2
Mystic River - ★★★★1/2
Letters from Iwo Jima - ★★★★
Gran Torino - ★★★★
Flags of Our Father - ★★★1/2
Changeling - ★★★
Pale Rider - ★★★
High Plains Drifter - ★★1/2
Sudden Impact - ★★1/2
Space Cowboys - ★★1/2
Invictus - ★★1/2
Blood Work - ★★1/2
The Outlaw Josey Wales - ★★1/2
Play Misty for Me - ★★1/2

17. Orson Welles
Citizen Kane - ★★★★★
Touch of Evil - ★★★★★
The Magnificent Ambersons - ★★★★1/2
Chimes at Midnight - ★★★★1/2
The Lady from Shanghai - ★★★
The Trial - ★★★
F for Fake - ★★★
Othello - ★★1/2
The Stranger - ★★1/2
Mr. Arkadin - ★★

18. Ridley Scott
Alien - ★★★★★
Gladiator - ★★★★1/2
Blade Runner - ★★★★
Black Hawk Down - ★★★★
Thelma & Louise - ★★★★
American Gangster - ★★★★
Hannibal - ★★

19. Douglas Sirk
Written on the Wind - ★★★★★
All That Heaven Allows - ★★★★1/2
Imitation of Life - ★★★★
A Time to Love and a Time to Die - ★★★★
Magnificent Obsession - ★★★1/2

20. Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp - ★★★★★
Black Narcissus - ★★★★★
A Matter of Life and Death - ★★★★
The Red Shoes - ★★★★
I Know Where I'm Going - ★★★1/2
A Canterbury Tale - ★★★1/2
The Thief of Bagdad - ★★★ (Powell only)
The Small Back Room - ★★1/2
Peeping Tom - ★★ (Powell only)

21. Christopher Nolan
Memento - ★★★★★
The Dark Knight - ★★★★
Insomnia - ★★★★
The Prestige - ★★★★
Inception - ★★★★
Batman Begins - ★★★1/2
Following - ★★★

22. Elia Kazan
A Streetcar Named Desire - ★★★★1/2
On the Waterfront - ★★★★1/2
Splendor in the Grass - ★★★★1/2
East of Eden- ★★★★1/2
Viva Zapata! - ★★★1/2
Gentleman's Agreement - ★★★
Panic in the Streets - ★★1/2

23. John Huston
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre - ★★★★★
The Asphalt Jungle - ★★★★★
The African Queen - ★★★★
The Maltese Falcon - ★★★★
Fat City - ★★★
Key Largo - ★★★

24. Charlie Chaplin
The Gold Rush - ★★★★★
Monsieur Verdoux - ★★★★1/2
Modern Times - ★★★★
The Great Dictator - ★★★★
The Circus - ★★★1/2
The Kid - ★★★
City Lights - ★★1/2

25. Werner Herzog
Little Dieter Needs to Fly - ★★★★1/2
Aguirre, the Wrath of God - ★★★★1/2
The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans - ★★★★1/2
Rescue Dawn - ★★★★
Grizzly Man - ★★★1/2
My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done - ★★★
The White Diamond - ★★★
Encounters at the End of the World - ★★★
Fitzcarraldo - ★★★
The Wild Blue Yonder - ★1/2

26. Preston Sturges
The Lady Eve - ★★★★1/2
Sullivan's Travels - ★★★★
The Great McGinty - ★★★★
Unfaithfully Yours - ★★★★
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek - ★★★1/2
Hail the Conquering Hero - ★★★1/2
The Palm Beach Story - ★★★1/2

27. Liu Chia-Liang
Drunken Master II - ★★★★★
The 8 Diagram Pole Fighter - ★★★★
Heroes of the East - ★★★★
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin - ★★★★
Return to the 36th Chamber - ★★★

28. Michael Curtiz
Casablanca - ★★★★★
Mildred Pierce - ★★★★1/2
Angels with Dirty Faces - ★★★★
The Adventures of Robin Hood - ★★★★
Yankee Doodle Dandy - ★★★1/2
Mystery of the Wax Museum - ★★1/2

29. Buster Keaton
Sherlock, Jr. - ★★★★★
The General - ★★★★★
The Cameraman - ★★★★
Our Hospitality - ★★★1/2
Steamboat Bill, Jr. - ★★★1/2
Seven Chances - ★★★
Go West - ★★★
College - ★★1/2

30. Woody Allen
Manhattan - ★★★★1/2
Crimes in Misdemeanors - ★★★★1/2
Hannah and Her Sisters - ★★★★
Bullets Over Broadway - ★★★★
Deconstructing Harry - ★★★1/2
Radio Days - ★★★1/2
Vicky Cristina Barcelona - ★★★
Sleeper - ★★★
Small Time Crooks - ★★1/2
Curse of the Jade Scorpion - ★★1/2
Annie Hall - ★★1/2

31. Rob Reiner
This Is Spinal Tap - ★★★★★
Stand By Me - ★★★★1/2
A Few Good Men - ★★★★1/2
The Bucket List - ★★★1/2
When Harry Met Sally - ★★★
Misery - ★★★
The Princess Bride - ★★1/2

32. Howard Hawks
To Have and Have Not - ★★★★1/2
Only Angels Have Wings - ★★★★
Rio Bravo - ★★★★
Bringing Up Baby - ★★★★
Red River - ★★★★
Sergeant York - ★★★1/2
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes - ★★★
Scarface - ★★1/2
The Big Sleep - ★★
His Girl Friday - ★★

33. George Cukor
The Philadelphia Story - ★★★★1/2
My Fair Lady - ★★★★1/2
Born Yesterday - ★★★★1/2
Adam's Rib - ★★★1/2
A Star is Born - ★★★
Holiday - ★★★

34. Fritz Lang
M - ★★★★★
The Big Heat - ★★★★★
Scarlet Street - ★★★1/2
Man Hunt - ★★★1/2
Metropolis - ★★★
The Woman in the Window - ★★★
House By the River - ★★★
Fury - ★★1/2

35. David Fincher
Seven - ★★★★1/2
Fight Club - ★★★★1/2
Zodiac - ★★★★1/2
The Social Network - ★★★1/2
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - ★★★
Panic Room - ★★★
Alien3 - ★★1/2
The Game - ★★1/2

36. Sidney Lumet
12 Angry Men - ★★★★
Murder on the Orient Express - ★★★★
The Verdict - ★★★★
Network - ★★★★
Dog Day Afternoon - ★★★1/2
Fail-Safe - ★★★1/2
Serpico - ★★★1/2
Before the Devil Knows Your Dead - ★★★1/2
Find Me Guilty - ★★1/2
Equus - ★★

37. Francis Ford Coppola
The Godfather - ★★★★★
Apocalypse Now - ★★★★★
The Godfather, Part II - ★★★★
The Godfather, Part III - ★★★1/2
The Conversation - ★★1/2
Bram Stoker's Dracula - ★★1/2
The Outsiders - ★★1/2

38. John Sturges
The Great Escape - ★★★★★
Bad Day at Black Rock - ★★★★★
Ice Station Zebra - ★★★★
The Magnificent Seven - ★★★
Last Train from Gun Hill - ★★★
Gunfight at the O.K. Corral - ★★1/2

39. Roman Polanski
Rosemary's Baby - ★★★★1/2
Chinatown - ★★★★
The Ghost Writer - ★★★★
The Pianist - ★★★1/2
The Tenant - ★★★1/2
Repulsion - ★★★1/2
Frantic - ★★★
Macbeth - ★★★
Knife in the Water - ★★

40. Jean Renoir
Grand Illusion - ★★★★★
The Rules of the Game - ★★★★
The River - ★★★1/2
The Lower Depths - ★★★1/2
The Human Beast - ★★★

41. James Cameron
Aliens - ★★★★★
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - ★★★★1/2
The Terminator - ★★★★
Titanic - ★★★
Avatar - ★★★
True Lies - ★★★
The Abyss - ★★1/2

42. Terry Gilliam
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - ★★★★★
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - ★★★★
Brazil - ★★★★
The Fisher King - ★★★1/2
Twelve Monkeys - ★★1/2

43. George A. Romero
Night of the Living Dead - ★★★★★
Day of the Dead - ★★★★1/2
Dawn of the Dead - ★★★★
Land of the Dead - ★★★
Survival of the Dead - ★★★
Diary of the Dead - ★★★
The Crazies - ★★

44. Federico Fellini
La Dolce Vita - ★★★★★
Nights of Cabiria - ★★★★
La Strada - ★★★★
I Vitelloni - ★★★1/2
Amarcord - ★★★
8 1/2 - ★★1/2

45. Samuel Fuller
White Dog - ★★★★1/2
The Naked Kiss  - ★★★★1/2
Underworld U.S.A. - ★★★★
Shock Corridor - ★★★1/2
I Shot Jesse James - ★★★
Pickup on South Street - ★★1/2
Forty Guns - ★★1/2

46. Jacques Tati
Playtime - ★★★★★
Mon Oncle - ★★★★1/2
Mr. Hulot's Holiday - ★★★★
Trafic - ★★★
Jour de Fête - ★★1/2

47. Joel and Ethan Coen
No Country for Old Men - ★★★★★
The Big Lebowski - ★★★★
Barton Fink - ★★★★
The Man Who Wasn't There - ★★★1/2
Blood Simple - ★★★
Raising Arizona - ★★1/2
Burn After Reading - ★★1/2
The Ladykillers - ★★1/2
O Brother, Where Art Thou? - ★★
Fargo - ★★
Miller's Crossing - ★1/2

48. Anthony Mann
Winchester '73 - ★★★★★
Bend of the River - ★★★1/2
The Furies - ★★★1/2
The Naked Spur - ★★★1/2
Man of the West - ★★★1/2
Border Incident - ★★1/2

49. Pedro Almodovar
All About My Mother - ★★★★1/2
Volver - ★★★★1/2
Talk to Her - ★★★★
Bad Education - ★★★1/2
Broken Embraces - ★★★
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown - ★★

50. Ernst Lubitsch
To Be or Not to Be - ★★★★
Trouble in Paradise - ★★★★
The Smiling Lieutenant - ★★★1/2
One Hour with You- ★★★1/2
Ninotchka - ★★★
The Shop Around the Corner - ★★★
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Senor Javi on November 27, 2010, 05:20:39 PM
Absolutely stellar effort, Senor Javi!  8)

I must get cracking on my comparatively meagre, bare-bones list.

Thank you! It was an absolute blast doing this, getting to find overlooked gems from my favorite directors (like One, Two, Three) or discovering new directors entirely (like Liu Chia-Liang). My overkill is a testament to how fun it was (and my lack of a full-time job).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on November 27, 2010, 05:48:23 PM
Love your enthusiasm and the time put in, Senior Javi.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on November 27, 2010, 05:53:10 PM
Great list, SJ!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on November 27, 2010, 05:57:41 PM
That's pretty epic :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on November 27, 2010, 07:24:58 PM
4. Jane Campion (Sweetie)

Although she didn't rank on mine, I'm happy to see her that high.  Personally, couldn't overlook the weak spots-- In the Cut and Holy Smoke.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 27, 2010, 09:07:13 PM
While I don't agree with all your choices (nor would I expect to 100% agree with anyone's list) those are some nice picks.  If Satyajit Ray doesn't make the top 100, I'm making it my mission to turn on enough Filmspotters to his work to get him on the list next year.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on November 27, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
While I don't agree with all your choices (nor would I expect to 100% agree with anyone's list) those are some nice picks.  If Satyajit Ray doesn't make the top 100, I'm making it my mission to turn on enough Filmspotters to his work to get him on the list next year.

You'd better start already.  Frankly, I need to see more of him.  I do have World of Apu checked out from the library right now.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 27, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
While I don't agree with all your choices (nor would I expect to 100% agree with anyone's list) those are some nice picks.  If Satyajit Ray doesn't make the top 100, I'm making it my mission to turn on enough Filmspotters to his work to get him on the list next year.

You'd better start already.  Frankly, I need to see more of him.  I do have World of Apu checked out from the library right now.

Have you seen Pather Panchali and Aparajito?  If not, watch those first.  World of Apu can stand on its own, but I have to imagine the impact would be diminished without having seen the first two.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 27, 2010, 10:57:19 PM
All right, I'm pooped. I won't have time to cram into any more movies before the deadline, so I'm throwing in the towel a little early. Before diving in, I'm going to have to preface everything to explain how I compiled my list. First, I had to have seen at least five films for each director in order to give me a conformable sample size. Second, I rated all of the films that I had seen on a scale from zero to five stars going by half star increments. Everything ★★★ or higher is a positive rating and everything ★★1/2 or below is a negative rating, but here's a more specific breakdown:

★★★ - Good; a respectable film worth watching.
★★★1/2 - Very good; a film of high quality.
★★★★ - Great; a treasure
★★★★1/2 - A near-masterpiece; approaching an all-time great
★★★★★ - A masterpiece; an all-time great

★★1/2 - OK; not poorly made, but lacking emotional investment or some similar trait
★★ - Bad; having one or more serious flaw that ruins the film
★1/2 - Very bad; the film fails at many points and is painful to watch
★ - Awful; a disaster at every turn
1/2★ - Beyond awful; it doesn't just fail, it makes you angry
(zero stars) - Incompetent; a total failure at every level at filmmaking

Mostly ratings are positive though and few are less than ★★. I'm not rating the Brothers Strauss here. The third step was to put all of the scores together. I'm not a math person, but I came up with a formula intended to reconciled different sized filmographies and not unfairly punish or reward a director for the number of films I had seen by them. The formula I came up was (2A + B/2).

In 2A + B/2, A is an average of the director's five highest rated films and B is the average of all subsequent films. If I had only seen five films by a director, then B is the average of the two lowest rated films. This made it so that highly rated films influenced a director's rating more than poorly rated films, which I feel is fair. The highest possible rating that can be earned is 12.5. My number one director scored 11.43 and number fifty director scored 8.7. In the event of a tie I looked at the director's top one or two films to rank them.

Hmm, I've been looking for a way to fine-tune my rankings, this approach appeals to me.  The only thing that concerns me is the five-film minimum, which does away with guys like Malick and Erice.  Maybe I could work around that though.  I'll have to give this some thought when I have time.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oldkid on November 28, 2010, 01:17:33 AM
While I don't agree with all your choices (nor would I expect to 100% agree with anyone's list) those are some nice picks.  If Satyajit Ray doesn't make the top 100, I'm making it my mission to turn on enough Filmspotters to his work to get him on the list next year.

You'd better start already.  Frankly, I need to see more of him.  I do have World of Apu checked out from the library right now.

Have you seen Pather Panchali and Aparajito?  If not, watch those first.  World of Apu can stand on its own, but I have to imagine the impact would be diminished without having seen the first two.

Alright, you convinced me.  I'll order the other two and watch them before.

Also, I also find SJ's system appealing.  But I was thinking of limiting it to three movies I've seen with a director and if a director only has two movies and I've seen both and both are 5s (such as Rian Johnson), then I'll give that director a chance.

However, I'm not changing my entry at this late stage.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 28, 2010, 01:28:26 AM
Yeah I've just spent an hour and a half (I could have watched a whole movie WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME) trying out and fiddling with SJ's system and I have mixed feelings about the results.  I'll probably use it as a general guideline for a few places where I can rejigger my rankings but the math frequently conflicts with my gut instincts.  I feel like the thing that's missing is "this director would have a lower score if I watched all the movies by him that I've deliberately avoided".
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on November 28, 2010, 02:43:40 AM
Great lists Senior Javi and Flieger
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on November 28, 2010, 05:58:09 AM
Please vote here (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9388.msg542352#msg542352) :). And the rest of you should go ahead and send me your ballots! You don't *have* to send in a list of 50. Any length is fine.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Wilson on November 28, 2010, 07:59:10 AM
Is there a voting scale to the lists, or just 50 in any order?

I assume this has already been clarified, but I couldn't find it :(
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on November 28, 2010, 08:39:07 AM
Oh yes, there is a voting scale, so please send me ranked lists. This is the scale I had in mind. To be honest, I haven't put in a lot of thought into comparing scales and so on. So feel free to comment on it. Wilson, I'd especially appreciate your feedback since you do this for the Top 100 Films every year.

Rank 1 : 12 pts
Ranks 2 - 5 : 10 pts
Ranks 6 -10 : 9 pts
Ranks 11- 20 : 7 pts
Ranks 21 - 30 : 5 pts
Ranks 30 - 40 : 3 pts
Ranks 40 - 50 : 1 pt
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Wilson on November 28, 2010, 09:04:52 AM
I'd maybe have one less split in the ranking, there's only 50 so I'd go with say 6 splits and I'd reduce the scale a little.

Perhaps

1 - 10 points
2-10 - 9 points
11-20 - 7 points
21-30 - 6 points
31-40 - 4 points
41-50 - 2 points

That way the difference between being voted 1st and voted 50th is only 500% vs 1200%. 

Using the two scales and assuming Director A receives 7 votes, in the form of: 1 x number 1 vote, 3x top 10 (4, 7, 10), and 3x 31-40 votes
and Director B receives 10 votes, in the form of 6x 31-40 votes and 4x 41-50 votes

With scale A, Director A would receive 49 points, 7 points per vote and Director B receives 22 points, 2.2 points per vote
With scale B, Director A would receive 49 points, 7 points per vote and Director B receives 34 points, 3.4 points per vote

Which allows for more points towards the more loved directors, while not overly punishing the more populist yet less loved director.

Of course, this is just a quick thought and I'm sure the scale is far from perfect but it's a start.  Perhaps pix the robot can come up with a happy medium.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: toro913 on November 29, 2010, 09:57:52 AM
My criteria were that I had to have seen at least 4 features by a director for them to be considered (which narrowed it down to 128 directors). I used an an adjusted criticker average to rank them.

For those interested I adjusted my criticker average for all directors by adding the average of all their films and the average of their best three and dividing by two. This helped bring up the directors that I'd seen more films by.

1   Francois Truffaut   96.43
2   Emir Kusturica   95.25
3   Akira Kurosawa   94.95
4   Krzysztof Kieslowski   94.79
5   Billy Wilder   93.73
6   Coen Brothers   93.12
7   Andrei Tarkovsky   92.88
8   Wong Kar-Wai   92.7
9   Paul Thomas Anderson   92.58
10   Ingmar Bergman   92.33
11   Wes Anderson   92.33
12   Stanley Kubrick   92.27
13   Terrence Malick   91.96
14   Sidney Lumet   91.67
15   Martin Scorsese   91.17
16   Alfred Hitchcock   90.65
17   Federico Fellini   90.43
18   Jean-Luc Godard   90.37
19   Pedro Almodóvar   90.17
20   Sergio Leone   90.13
21   Werner Herzog   90.03
22   Luis Buñuel   89.67
23   David Lean   89.13
24   Francis Ford Coppola   89.02
25   Mike Leigh   88.4
26   Woody Allen   88.09
27   Richard Linklater   87.86
28   Hal Ashby   87.46
29   Spike Lee   87.29
30   Orson Welles   87.04
31   David Lynch   86.17
32   Mike Nichols   86.13
33   Robert Altman   86.1
34   David Fincher   86.09
35   Hayao Miyazaki   85.75
36   Frank Capra   85.67
37   Roman Polanski   85.33
38   Cameron Crowe   84.46
39   Jim Jarmusch   84.25
40   Quentin Tarantino   84.09
41   Danny Boyle   83.75
42   Peter Weir   83.5
43   Michael Haneke   81.63
44   Terry Zwigoff   80.92
45   Ridley Scott   80.31
46   Christopher Nolan   80
47   Steven Soderbergh   79.48
48   Gus Van Sant   79.27
49   Atom Egoyan   79.25
50   John Huston   79

The worst 10 if anyone was wondering.

119   Jon Turteltaub   35.83
120   David Zucker   35.67
121   Wes Craven   32.37
122   Joel Schumacher   28.83
123   Stephen Sommers   27.79
124   Dennis Dugan   27.5
125   Donald Petrie   26.67
126   Peter Segal   24.43
127   Shawn Levy   21.92
128   Renny Harlin   16.4
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on November 29, 2010, 10:09:19 AM
2   Emir Kusturica   95.25
7   Andrei Tarkovsky   92.88
23   David Lean   89.13

Great and unique choices.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on November 29, 2010, 10:19:36 AM
I'd maybe have one less split in the ranking, there's only 50 so I'd go with say 6 splits and I'd reduce the scale a little.

Thank you so much, Wilson. That's really helpful. I'll try and play around with the scale a little more to see if I can do any better but otherwise, am going to just use your scale. Really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: chardy999 on November 30, 2010, 06:03:28 AM
I just sent in my paltry list. Better than nothing fo sho.

I would edit your first post in this thread w@w to include instructions for PMing you so it's easier for people to know what to do. I know it took me a few minutes to figure it out as I looked for another thread blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Wilson on November 30, 2010, 09:50:51 AM
Here's my list; it's based mostly on how likely I'd be to watch any film by the director, rather than any other criteria like influence, number of 'masterpieces', etc


1. Ingmar Bergman
2. Coen Brothers
3. Steven Spielberg
4. Quentin Tarantino
5. Martin Scorsese
6. P.T. Anderson
7. David Fincher
8. John Ford
9. Alfred Hitchcock
10. Darren Aronofsky

11. Guillermo Del Toro
12. Wes Anderson
13. David Lynch
14. Christopher Nolan
15. Woody Allen
16. Paul Greengrass
17. Francis Ford Coppola
18. Werner Herzog
19. Andrea Arnold
20. Sofia Coppola

21. Steven Soderbergh
22. Roman Polanski
23. Sergio Leone
24. Billy Wilder
25. Pedro Almodovar
26. Stanley Kubrick
27. Brad Bird
28. Lukas Moodysson
29. Jean-Luc Godard
30. Gus Van Sant

31. Ramin Bahrani
32. Alfonso Cuaron
33. Michael Haneke
34. John Lasseter
35. Akira Kurosawa
36. Kelly Reichart
37. Andrew Stanton
28. Michael Mann
39. Richard Linklater
40. Robert Altman

41. Peter Jackson
42. Michel Gondry
43. Michael Winterbottom
44. The Dardennes
45. Spike Jonze
46. Clint Eastwood
47. James Cameron
48. Spike Lee
49. Jason Reitman
50. Danny Boyle
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on November 30, 2010, 01:22:39 PM
Well here it is.

1. Alfred Hitchcock(North by Northwest) Why: For changing movies for the better
2. Akira Kurosawa(The Seven Samuari) Why: For visual style and pacing
3. Lars von Trier(The Five Obstructions) Why: For pushing boundaries.
4. Georges Melies(A Trip to the Moon) Why: Because his early vision progressed movies so far.
5. Hayao Miyazaki(Spirited Away) Why: For creating wonder and hope
6. Jean-Pierre Jeunet(Amelie) Why: His wimsy, style and use of colour, for creating wonderful characters
7. Frank Capra(It's a Wonderful Life) Why: For making us glad, to be alive and to be human
8. Danny Boyle(28 Days Later) Why: For creating great films across a variety of genres
9. Billy Wilder(Sunset Blvd.) Why: For brilliant film making
10. Sergio Leone(Once Upon a Time in the West) Why: For the creation of great westerns
11. Peter Greenaway(The Cook The Theif His Wife & Her Lover) Why: For being one of the few directors who explore beyond the bounds of the camera as an eye.
12. Fritz Lang(Metropolis)
13. Christopher Nolan(Momento)
14. Ridley Scott(Alien)
15. Clint Eastwood(Unforgiven)
16. James Cameron(Aliens)
17. Pedro Almodovar(Volver)
18. David Lean(Lawence of Arabia)
19. Orson Welles(Citizen Kane)
20. Peter Weir(Gallipoli)
21. Steven Speilberg(Raiders of the Lost Ark)
22. David Cronenberg(The History of Violence)
23. Alejandro Jodorowsky(El Topo)
24. Guillermo del Toro(Pan’s Labyrinth)
25. Chan-wook Park(Oldboy)
26. Francis Ford Coppola(Apocolypse Now)
27. Hal Hartley(Simple Men)
28. John Hughes(Ferris Buellers Day Off)
29. John McTiernan(Die Hard)
30. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger(The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp)
31. David Fincher(Fight Club)
32. Terry Gilliam(12 Monkeys)
33. Howard Hawks(Bringing Up Baby)
34. John Ford(The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
35. Luc Besson(Leon: The Professional)
36. Quentin Tarantino(Pulp Fiction)
37. Peter Jackson(Lord of the Rings trilogy)
38. Jim Jarmusch(Dead Man)
39. John Huston(African Queen)
40. Katherine Bigelow(The Hurt Locker)
41. Rolf De Heer(Bad Boy Bubby)
42. Stanley Kubrick(Paths of Glory)
43. Alan Parker(Pink Flyod: The Wall)
44. George Miller(Mad Max)
45. Baz Luhrman(Romeo and Juilet)
46. Jackie Chan(Project A: Part 2)
47. Rob Reiner(The Princess Bride)
48. John Woo(The Killer)
49. David Lynch(Blue Velvet)
50. Kevin Smith(Clerks)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on December 02, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
Still working on your list, worm?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on December 02, 2010, 12:34:12 PM
Wait this is due already? Will post later today.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 02, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
Still working on your list, worm?

It's nearly ready but needs to be formatted and so on for posting :). Been too busy tabulating the entries I've received + grading term papers. Will definitely post the list here though.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on December 02, 2010, 02:37:08 PM
How many people have sent in lists? A good amount I hope :)

If you want a hand with any of the grunt work I'm here.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Beavermoose on December 02, 2010, 02:51:29 PM
We need junior to go out and get yell at everyone to send in their lists like for the books list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 02, 2010, 02:53:55 PM
How many people have sent in lists? A good amount I hope :)

If you want a hand with any of the grunt work I'm here.

I have 22 entries so far and am expecting a few more from people that have PM-ed to say they'll be sending theirs in.

Thanks so much for the offer, 'noff but I'm good so far :).

For anyone reading this thread that hasn't sent in a ballot yet, please don't worry about the lapsed deadline. I am happy to receive entries right up to the date of the announcement chat (Dec 12th most probably). So join all the cool kids and send in a ranked ballot of upto 50 directors before next weekend!

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ses on December 02, 2010, 08:33:10 PM
This was a hard list for me to put together, after my top 30 or so, they could really be in any order.

1. Alfred Hitchcock
2. Coen Brothers
3. Billy Wilder
4. Steven Spielberg
5. Werner Herzog
6. Stanley Kubrick
7. Howard Hawks
8. Sergio Leone
9. Ingmar Bergman
10. Akira Kurosawa
11. Frank Capra
12. Nicholas Ray
13. Francis Ford Coppola
14. Wes Anderson
15. Francois Truffaut
16. Elia Kazan
17. Roman Polanski
18. Sidney Lumet
19. Quentin Tarantino
20. Hal Ashby
21. Orson Welles
22. Pedro Almodovar
23. Christopher Nolan
24. John Ford
25. David Fincher
26. Alfonso Cuaron
27. Clint Eastwood
28. Park Chan Wook
29. Fritz Lang
30. Michael Curtiz
31. F. W. Murnau
32. Steven Soderbergh
33. David Cronenberg
34. Cameron Crowe
35. Leo McCarey
36. Ang Lee
37. William Wyler
38. Jane Campion
39. Danny Boyle
40. John Huston
41. Preston Sturges
42. George Cukor
43. Robert Wise
44. John Hughes
45. Mike Leigh
46. Susan Bier
47. Kevin Smith
48. Kathryn Bigelow
49. Agnes Varda
50. Blake Edwards
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Tim on December 02, 2010, 10:14:49 PM
i have been too busy for the last few months to really pay attention to this current list - I thought it was just top directors of the year, but now that I see it is top directors ever I better hurry up and put something together!!!

@ Dave the Necrobumper - I love the WHY column you have
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on December 02, 2010, 10:41:15 PM
I like how it implicitly suggests that there is no actual reason for any of the other directors to be on the list :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Tim on December 02, 2010, 11:34:52 PM
OK - this was a little rushed - I hope I didn't miss anyone too important.....I am pretty happy with it at the moment ;)

Top 50 Directors   
1   Peter Greenaway
2   Bela Tarr
3   Apichatapong Weerasethakul
4   Krzysztof Kieslowski
5   Hayao Miyazaki
6   David Lynch
7   Jean-Pierre Jeunet
8   Lynne Ramsay
9   Michael Mann
10   Joss Whedon
11   Terrence Malick
12   Bong Joon-ho
13   Stanley Krubrick
14   Werner Herzog
15   Pedro Almodovar
16   Jim Jarmusch
17   Quentin Tarantino
18   Coen Brothers
19   Jane Campion
20   Dardenne brothers
21   Steven Soderbergh
22   Gus van Sant
23   Hou Hsiao-hsien
24   Preston Sturges
25   Kathryn Bigelow
26   Wim Wenders
27   Michel Gondry
28   Billy Wilder
29   Wong Kar-Wai
30   Francois Truffuat
31   Andrei Tarkovsky
32   Akira Kurosawa
33   Tom Tykwer
34   Ang Lee
35   Francis Ford Coppola
36   Roman Polanski
37   Michael Winterbottom
38   John Cameron Mitchell
39   Ridley Scott
40   Rian Johnson
41   James Cameron
42   Danny Boyle
43   Claire Denis
44   Monte Hellman
45   Ingmar Bergman
46   Darren Aronofsky
47   Amy Heckerling
48   Woody Allen
49   Sofia Coppola
50   Kevin Smith


Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on December 02, 2010, 11:38:53 PM
I like how Kevin Smith is sneaking on to a lot of lists at 50 or otherwise near the end. It is everyone saying "I really love his films but I'm not sure I can justify putting him higher on directorial talent." Or at least that would be the interpretation based on the discussion after I posted my list with him in the #5 spot.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ses on December 02, 2010, 11:41:33 PM
I like his films and I am interested in any new films that he puts out, which is why he made my list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Shaw13 on December 03, 2010, 03:38:41 AM
Only saw this thread today, is it too late to submit a list within the next few days?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Tim on December 03, 2010, 05:26:59 AM

@flieger: well this will disgust you even more then - I bumped him off #50 to add Kevin Smith :p

I couldn't leave the director of one the ultimate films ever off my list. I mean when you compare Clerks to Rio Bravo or His Girl Friday - Clerks is the clear winner!!!!

As for Lewis, he only made one good film and he never let anyone watch it! I mean you have seen the nutty professor haven't you.....eeew!


@Bondo: It is Kevin's dialogue that I admire more than his direction - although he is getting better! Sometimes I wonder how his films would go with a different director, such as Joss Whedon.


I just remembered I forgot Jan Švankmajer - who I would probably put around the mid 20s, knocking Mr Smith to 51, and Hawks to 52. Looking at my list I probably would have done a slight reshuffle, but not too much - like Dardennes and Hou Hsiao-hsien both could have been a little higher.  I originally put about 80 names down that I thought were in the elite column, and had to cut back to reach my 50, so there have been a few cuts that were hard to make.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on December 03, 2010, 07:43:30 AM
Only saw this thread today, is it too late to submit a list within the next few days?

Nope, go right ahead.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 03, 2010, 02:03:24 PM
Only saw this thread today, is it too late to submit a list within the next few days?

Nope, go right ahead.

Yes, please. Sometime by Dec 10th 11th should be fine. Look forward to it :).  
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 05, 2010, 07:26:07 AM
So, final deadline for the ballots is 11th Dec at noon. The results will be announced in chat (http://chat.crackspotting.com/) (and posted on the forum) on Sunday 12th December at 2 PM EST. Put on your party hats and be there!

Also, please check this list (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9388.msg542352#msg542352) and make sure your name is on it if you've sent me a ballot.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Shaw13 on December 05, 2010, 11:45:42 AM
Just sent my ballot in. This is my final list, even if I am not 100% happy with it.

1.   Akira Kurosawa
2.   Ingmar Bergman
3.   Martin Scorsese
4.   Alfred Hitchcock
5.   Stanley Kubrick
6.   Billy Wilder
7.   Frederick Wiseman
8.   Jean-Luc Godard
9.   Sergei Eisenstein
10.    Francis Ford Coppola
11.    Quentin Tarantino
12.    Coen Brothers
13.    Steven Spielberg
14.    Lars Von Trier
15.    Krzysztof Kieslowski
16.    John Ford
17.    Werner Herzog
18.    Hayao Miyazaki
19.    Orson Welles
20.    Park Chan-Wook
21.    David Lynch
22.    Howard Hawks
23.    Elia Kazan
24.    David Fincher
25.    Bela Tarr
26.    Christopher Nolan
27.    Gus van Sant
28.    Darren Aronofsky
29.    Wong Kar-Wai
30.    Michel Gondry
31.    Yasujiro Ozu
32.    Kenji Mizoguchi
33.    Douglas Sirk
34.    Charles Chaplin
35.    Pedro Almodovar
36.    Terrence Malick
37.    Steven Soderbergh
38.    Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
39.    Jean-Pierre Jeunet
40.    Georges Melies
41.    Fritz Lang
42.    David Lean
43.    Clint Eastwood
44.    Carol Reed
45.    Kevin Smith
46.    Robert Rodriguez
47.    John Hughes
48.    Dziga Vertov
49.    Michael Moore
50.    David Cronenberg
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on December 05, 2010, 12:31:13 PM
Just sent my ballot in. This is my final list, even if I am not 100% happy with it.

45.    Kevin Smith
48.    Kevin Smith

Kevin Smith is happy with it.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on December 05, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
One thing I know about my ballot (submitted ages ago because I wasn't going to become less uneasy with it)...it will be better next year. I'm using my Great Directors marathon to take a more sophisticated approach toward the ranking and to catch up with films from directors where presently I'm basing placement on 2-3 films.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Shaw13 on December 05, 2010, 02:31:49 PM
Just sent my ballot in. This is my final list, even if I am not 100% happy with it.

45.    Kevin Smith
48.    Kevin Smith

Kevin Smith is happy with it.

Haha, I knew that no matter how many times I proof-read the list, mistakes like that would still happen. Thanks for pointing it out, the list has now been updated.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 05, 2010, 05:26:02 PM
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1. Weerasethakul, Apichatpong (Blissfully Yours)

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2. Kurosawa, Akira (High and Low)

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3. Wong, Kar-Wai (Happy Together)

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4. Ray, Satyajit (Charulata)

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5. Chaplin, Charles (Modern Times)

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6. Hitchcock, Alfred (Vertigo)

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7. Hou, Hsiao-Hsien (Millennium Mambo)

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8. Kieslowski, Krzysztof (Dekalog)

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9. Denis, Claire (Friday Night)

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10. Yang, Edward (Yi Yi)
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11. Tsai, Ming-liang (The Hole)

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12. Jia, Zhangke (Still Life)

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13. Dardenne, Jean-Pierre and Luc (Le Fils)

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14. Carax, Leos (Lovers on the Bridge)

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15. Almodovar. Pedro (All About My Mother)

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16. Miyazaki, Hayao (Princess Mononoke

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17. Varda, Agnes (Cleo from 5 to 7)

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18. Anderson, Wes (Rushmore)

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19. Tarantino, Quentin (Pulp Fiction)

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20. Leone, Sergio (Once Upon a Time in the West)

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21. Kubrick, Stanley (2001: A Space Odyssey)

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22. Herzog, Werner (Fitzcarraldo)

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23. Truffaut, Francois (The 400 Blows)

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24. Anderson, Paul Thomas (Punch Drunk Love)

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25. Godard, Jean-Luc (A Woman Is a Woman)

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26. Welles, Orson (Citizen Kane)

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27. Wiseman, Frederick (High School)

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28. Sirk, Douglas (All that Heaven Allows)

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29. Ray, Nicholas (In a Lonely Place)

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30. Ozu, Yasujiro  (Tokyo Story)

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31. Norshteyn, Yuriy (Battle of Kerzhenets)

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32. Dreyer, Carl Theodor (The Passion of Joan of Arc)

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33. Coen, Ethan and Joel (Fargo)

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34. Lang, Fritz (M)

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35. Visconti, Luchino (The Leopard)

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36. Powell, Michael & Emeric Pressburger (The Red Shoes)

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37. Murnau, FW (Sunrise)

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38. Renoir, Jean (The Rules of the Game)

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39. Polanski, Roman (Repulsion)

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40. Engel, Morris & Ruth Orkin (Little Fugitive)

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41. Keaton, Buster (Sherlock Jr.)

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42. Ford, John (Young Mr. Lincoln)

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43. Green, Eugene (Le Pont des Arts)

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44. Bird, Brad (The Incredibles)

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45. Cocteau, Jean (Beauty and the Beast[/i])

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46. Ramsay, Lynne (Morvern Callar)

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47. Gray, James (The Yards)

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48. Alonso, Lisandro (La Libertad)

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49. DePalma, Brian (Carrie)

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50. Noé, Gaspar (Irreversible)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on December 05, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
People are posting some awesome lists!  Very pleased to see some folks I love well-represented in the selections of Tim, Shaw and Worm.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on December 05, 2010, 06:53:24 PM
9. Denis, Claire (Friday Night)
27. Wiseman, Frederick (High School)
31. Norshteyn, Yuriy (Battle of Kerzhenets)
40. Engel, Morris & Ruth Orkin (Little Fugitive)

[Omar]Oh, indeed.[/Omar]

45. Cocteau, Jean (Beauty and the Beast[/i])
48. Alonso, Lisandro (La Libertad)

Love your BatB write-up, BTW.  I'm quite a fan of the ingenuity Cocteau displayed in his films.  Just saw Liverpool, and I dug it.  With that and Los muertos, Alonso is first-tier among contempo filmmakers, methinks.

Would sending in an edited list be too much?  I forgot about Eric Rohmer and Max Ophuls *SMH*
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 05, 2010, 07:07:28 PM
Love your BatB write-up, BTW.  I'm quite a fan of the ingenuity Cocteau displayed in his films.  Just saw Liverpool, and I dug it.  With that and Los muertos, Alonso is first-tier among contempo filmmakers, methinks.

Woo! Am so glad you enjoyed the Alonso films. I am definitely excited to see what he does next. Btw, I also totally agree with your Best Actor nom for Alfredo Castro in Tony Manero. Such a good performance!

Would sending in an edited list be too much?  I forgot about Eric Rohmer and Max Ophuls *SMH*

Pls feel free to send in an edited list. It's not a problem at all :).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on December 05, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
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1. Weerasethakul, Apichatpong (Blissfully Yours)

Did you know I got to talk to him one on one for a bit AND I have his autograph? Yah. It's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on December 05, 2010, 07:33:52 PM
I am definitely excited to see what he does next. Btw, I also totally agree with your Best Actor nom for Alfredo Castro in Tony Manero. Such a good performance!

re: Alonso

Same here.

re: Castro

Yeah, Castro portrayed an unlikable character without a hint of contempt for him.  And the greatness of the performance was solidified in my mind with the moments lingering on Raul's face as he waits for and hears the judging.  I did a 180 and felt a great deal of sympathy for the character.  The ending sequence was icing on the cake.  



Pls feel free to send in an edited list. It's not a problem at all :).

Cool, I think the only shuffling was done in the bottom ten positions.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Tim on December 05, 2010, 09:30:50 PM
1. Weerasethakul, Apichatpong (Blissfully Yours)

Did you know I got to talk to him one on one for a bit AND I have his autograph? Yah. It's pretty cool.
Transcript and scan please!!!!!


I have realised I also forgot Pen-Ek Ratanaruang from my list - I might also send a re-edit if it is okay........


Excellent list worm@work

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 05, 2010, 09:34:28 PM

I have realised I also forgot Pen-Ek Ratanaruang from my list - I might also send a re-edit if it is okay........

Re-edit is totally okay! Just PM me again, please :).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on December 05, 2010, 10:10:47 PM
Just wanted to express my love for Elaine May, who I shamefully forgot about, based on the brilliance of A New Leaf and The Heartbreak Kid, the great first 20 or so minutes of Ishtar, and some fine, fine moments in Mikey and Nicky.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on December 05, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
I still have never finished The Heartbreak Kid. Just too uncomfortable and painful.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on December 05, 2010, 10:56:33 PM
I think you can "handle" it if you can "handle" Goodbye Dragon, Inn; The Wayward Cloud; Funny Ha Ha; and Mutual Appreciation, for example.  Do you watch Louie?  To categorize grossly, they're (The Heartbreak Kid and Louie) in the same school of uncomfortable-cringe comedy.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 06, 2010, 11:53:01 AM
these lists are all so Film-centric!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Tim on December 07, 2010, 02:28:31 AM
hmmm, you have a point there iKeith! How about putting a few directors on those lists who haven't made a [decent] film yet?  ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 07, 2010, 03:04:59 AM
briefly, a quickly assembled list:

1   Stanley Kubrick
2   Martin Scorsese
3   Gus Van Sant
4   Paul Thomas Andeson
5   Chris Cunningham
6   Wim Wenders
7   Alfred Hitchcock
8   The Coen Brothers
9   Darren Aronofsky
10   David Fincher
11   Danny Boyle
12   Spike Jones
13   Jonathan Glazer
14   David Lynch
15   Francis Ford Coppola
16   Sidney Lumet
17   Steven Sodebergh
18   Kathryn Bigelow
19   Jonas Åkerlund
20   Akira Kurosawa
21   The Brothers Quay
22   Quentin Tarantino
23   Terrence Malick
24   Alfonso Cuarón
25   Tim Burton
26   Jean-Pierre Melville
27   Michael Haneke
28   Wes Anderson
29   Pedro Almodovar
30   Ang Lee
31   Terry Gilliam
32   Michel Gondry
33   Lars Von Trier
34   Luis Buñuel
35   Mark Romanek
36   Jean-Pierre Jeunet
37   Spike Lee
38   Kar-Wai Wong
39   Ridley Scott
40   Paul Verhoeven
41   Jim Jarmusch
42   Werner Herzog
43   Jean-Luc Godard
44   Larry Clark
45   Anton Corbijn
46   Hal Hartley
47   Steven Spielberg
48   Neveldine & Taylor
49   Todd Solondz
50   Hammer & Tongs
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 07, 2010, 03:16:46 AM
Neveldine & Taylor > the Coen Brothers.  :(

we need a brothers poll:

Coens, Dardennes, Quay, Hugheses, Wachowskis (Ridley & Tony should do more projects together)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 07, 2010, 03:37:21 AM
N&T prolly call each other "Bro"...

mostly because they have too much class to let loose the Paul Walker "brah"
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on December 07, 2010, 08:39:34 AM
the Paul Walker "brah"

Airborne - "Bra" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIiPS6E2yU#)

I credit Shane McDermott
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 10, 2010, 06:48:00 AM
Those of you that haven't yet submitted a ballot for the Top Director's Poll should totally put together a list (upto 50 directors and ranked) and PM it to me by tomorrow.

DO IT!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 10, 2010, 09:40:14 AM
the Paul Walker "brah"

Airborne - "Bra" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIiPS6E2yU#)

I credit Shane McDermott

If that ever had gotten a DVD release I would've remembered! (Have you done that course in Cinci?!?)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: pixote on December 10, 2010, 02:16:19 PM
Those of you that haven't yet submitted a ballot for the Top Director's Poll should totally put together a list (upto 50 directors and ranked) and PM it to me by tomorrow.

DO IT!

But there are so many directors!

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: pixote on December 10, 2010, 02:22:17 PM
This is another reason I don't have a lot of women in my top 100... so many of them seem to ruin their own careers.

Er ... there's got to be a better way to phrase that.

Most directors "ruin their own careers" ... it's not a gender-specific thing.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 10, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
This is another reason I don't have a lot of women in my top 100... so many of them seem to ruin their own careers.

Er ... there's got to be a better way to phrase that.

Most directors "ruin their own careers" ... it's not a gender-specific thing.

pixote

Yes, it is like some do not know either when to stop, or they get stuck in a rut, resulting in cookie-cutter films. It is why directors like Danny Boyle are so enjoyable, you do not know what he will be creating next. Unlike the Michael May's of this world, where you know exactly what you will get next.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: pixote on December 10, 2010, 05:20:33 PM
My What Have You Done for Me Lately list:

1. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
2. Robert Flaherty
3. Michael Apted
4. Frank Capra
5. Krzysztof Kieslowski
6. Michael Moore
7. Abbas Kiarostami
8. David & Albert Maysles
9. Ken Loach
10. Yves Robert
11. Wes Anderson
12. Quentin Tarantino
13. Fred Zinnemann
14. Wim Wenders
15. John Ford
16. David Hand
17. Barbara Kopple
18. Francis Ford Coppola
19. Vittorio De Sica
20. Fernando Eimbcke
21. William Wyler
22. Hayao Miyazaki
23. Terrence Malick
24. Rouben Mamoulian
25. Sergio Leone
26. Kinji Fukasaku
27. Gus Van Sant
28. Stanley Kubrick
29. Robert Wise
30. Woody Allen
31. Buster Keaton
32. Federico Fellini
33. Akira Kurosawa
34. Robert Redford
35. Hou Hsiao-hsien
36. Robert Altman
37. Francois Truffaut
38. Pier Paolo Pasolini
39. Frank Borzage
40. Howard Hawks
41. Lewis Milestone
42. Lukas Moodysson
43. Paul Greengrass
44. Nicholas Ray
45. David Lean
46. Hirokazu Kore-eda
47. Fred M. Wilcox
48. Jean-Pierre Melville
49. Robert Bresson
50. Yasujiro Ozu

Not to be confused with my actual list.

I love that Fred Wilcox is on here.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 'Noke on December 10, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
This is.....Not your list?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Corndog on December 10, 2010, 07:17:38 PM
the Paul Walker "brah"

Airborne - "Bra" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIiPS6E2yU#)

I credit Shane McDermott

If that ever had gotten a DVD release I would've remembered! (Have you done that course in Cinci?!?)

I cannot believe it doesn't have a DVD release. Seth Green and Jack Black, hello! Anyway, sadly that course is a patchwork of the various hills around the city. Devil's Backbone does not exist. But I have noticed a lot of the locations they did film at.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: ¡Keith! on December 10, 2010, 10:26:53 PM
nice.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on December 10, 2010, 11:48:52 PM
50.  Satoshi Kon (RIP)
49.  Steven Spielberg (the best Hollywood has to offer)
48.  Jean-Pierre Jeunet (awesomely Quirky)
47.  Alfonso Cauron (spectacular new filmmaker with very bright future)
46.  Kim Ji-Woon (best genre filmmaker working today)
45.  Kon Ichikawa (Japans best kept secret)
44.  Jean Renoir (French master whose movies are unbelievably deep, layered, and soulful)
43.  Victor Erice (a true outsider artist)
42.  Roberto Rossellini (the best of the Italian neorealists)
41.  Darren Aronofsky (an awesome new filmmaker with exhilarating cinematography)
40.  Gus Van Sant (based on his early work which was incredible)
39.  Chang Dong Lee (creator of several wonderful gems and one masterpiece)
38.  Alejandro Jodorowsky (the weirdest director ever)
37.  Henri-Georges Clouzot (a wonderful French discovery)
36.  Shohei Imamura (Ballad of Narayama is one of the best films ever made)
35.  Masaki Kobayashi (one of Japans most humane directors)
34.  Pedro Almodovar (makes amazing films out of sitcom material)
33.  Danny Boyle (still waiting to release his true potential)
32.  John Ford (THE American director)
31.  Roman Polanski (movies as awesomely perverted as he is)
30.  Guillermo Del Toro (the greatest fantasy filmmaker working today)
29.  James Cameron (the best blockbuster director of all time)
28.  Fritz Lang (he wears a f*cking monocle man)
27.  Quentin Tarantino (nobody can do dialogue like him)
26.  Werner Herzog (best German director since the war)
25.  Joon Ho Bong (an amazing new Korean filmmaker that turns to gold anything he touches)
24.  Lucas Moodyson (created three wonderful films and proceeded to jump shark)
23.  Billy Wilder (rarely mentioned as one of the greats but you keep discovering wonderful movies by him)
22.  Tengiz Abuladze (an amazing filmmaker you never heard of from a country you never heard of)
21.  Hector Babenco (best South American director of all time, also best LGBT director)
20.  Andrei Wajda (best Polish director of all time)
19.  FW Murnau (best non-comedic silent director with a library of masterpieces)
18.  Kar Wai Wong (makes some of the most beautiful films ever made)
17.  Terry Gilliam (reliably weird and occasionally great)
16.  Mark Zaharov (its a Russian thing)
15.  David Lynch (marches to his own drummer)
14.  Guy Maddin (single handedly justifies Canada's existence)
13.  Francis Ford Coppola (made a string of masterpieces and died young)
12.  Jean-Pierre Melville (the coolest filmmaker of all time)
11.  Sergio Leone (best western director)
10.  Alfred Hitchcock (made more great films than anyone else on this list)
9.   Errol Morris (best documentarian of all time)
8.   Kim Ki Duk (best Korean filmmaker, an utterly unique vision)
7.   Ingmar Bergman (second smartest director of all time)
6.   Andrei Tarkovsky (smartest director of all time)
5.   Charlie Chaplin (best silent director)
4.   Hayao Miyazaki (best animator of all time)
3.   Stanley Kubrick (the one and only)
2.   Joel and Ethan Coen (best modern filmmakers)
1.   Akira Kurosawa (a God among insects)

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: pixote on December 10, 2010, 11:57:11 PM
Great list, scary clown guy.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: 1SO on December 10, 2010, 11:59:27 PM
Except for a couple of directors I've never heard of, I'd be completely happy if the real list matched zarodinu's list.  If you took 1 film from each director on this list and made a marathon of it, you'd be a better film geek or filmmaker afterwards.

I'm gonna look up Zaharov, Abuladze and Erice.

EDIT: The Spirit of the Beehive has been in my queue for a while.  So that's one.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on December 11, 2010, 12:10:34 AM
As if I need more marathons, I feel like one thing I need to do once the list is announced is watch at least one film from all the directors on the list from whom I've seen no films. Wouldn't think it would be a overly large number. Probably will rely on Martin's polls and the like to figure out which film is the one to watch.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on December 11, 2010, 01:23:57 AM
Except for a couple of directors I've never heard of, I'd be completely happy if the real list matched zarodinu's list.  If you took 1 film from each director on this list and made a marathon of it, you'd be a better film geek or filmmaker afterwards.

I'm gonna look up Zaharov, Abuladze and Erice.

EDIT: The Spirit of the Beehive has been in my queue for a while.  So that's one.

Thanks for kind word, half of those directors wouldn't be up there if it wasn't for filmspotter recommendations. 

Zaharov - A very Russian director, most Russky's my parents generation have seen his films dozens of times.  He is primarily a theatrical director though, and his films resemble stage productions with very strong acting but limited sets and cinematography (music is awesome though).

Erice - Wonderful director but very similar to Tarkovsky in that the films are wonderful but not thrilling.  Every film resembles a dream.

Abuladze - Watch the Wishing Tree, his most accessible.  Repentance has more to do with Stalinism and you may not relate to it.  The Supplication is a masterpiece but incredibly inaccesable, you need to understand a little Georgian history and the whole movie is a poem that may or may not translate to English.

The Supplication

В ПОИСКАХ ИСТИНЫ Honour to Enemy LOOKING for TRUTH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfvxqWqQLKk&feature=related#)

The Wishing Tree

Drvo želje - Tengiz Abuladze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Nc2E7hE-0#)

Repentance

Repentance, Monanieba, მონანიება Tengiz Abuladze (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbWhjRGnWyQ&feature=related#) 
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on December 11, 2010, 01:29:05 AM
1. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger
5. Krzysztof Kieslowski
40. Howard Hawks
49. Robert Bresson
50. Yasujiro Ozu

pixote

So many directors I KNOW are great but still watched nothing from their filmographies. 

6. Michael Moore

This one is way scarier than all the evil clowns on earth.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 11, 2010, 06:40:39 AM
All you naughty kids not on this list (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9388.msg542352#msg542352) should make a ranked list of 50 (or fewer) directors you love and PM it to me ASAP (or by midnight tonight).

The final list will be unveiled tomorrow (12th December) in chat as well as on the boards at 2PM EST.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: jbissell on December 11, 2010, 04:07:54 PM
Submitted my list. I'll post it later.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: oneaprilday on December 11, 2010, 06:26:26 PM
Very last minute and haphazard, but here's my list:


1.   Ingmar Bergman
2.   Krystof Kieslowski
3.   Werner Herzog
4.   Alfred Hitchcock
5.   Susanne Bier
6.   Mike Leigh
7.   Pedro Almodovar
8.   Terrence Malick
9.   Jane Campion
10.   Claire Denis
11.   Frank Capra
12.   Charles Chaplin
13.   John Ford
14.   Ken Loach
15.   Michal Powell and Emeric Pressburger
16.   Christopher Guest
17.   Hayao Miyazaki
18.   Douglas Sirk
19.   Abbas Kiarostami
20.   Wim Wenders
21.   Andrei Tarkovsky
22.   Danny Boyle
23.   Jean Renoir
24.   Joel and Ethan Coen
25.   Michel Gondry
26.   Lynne Ramsey
27.   James Whale
28.   Wong Kar Wai
29.   Billy Wilder
30.   Stanley Donen
31.   Lindsay Anderson
32.   Bong Joon-ho
33.   Wes Anderson
34.   Terry Gilliam
35.   Paul Greengrass
36.   Michael Haneke
37.   Hsiaio-hsien Hou
38.   Rian Johnson
39.   Barbara Kopple
40.   Hirokazu Koreeda
41.   Akira Kurosawa
42.   Joseph L. Mankiewicz
43.   Errol Morris
44.   Sam Wood
45.   Nicole Holofcener
46.   Todd Field
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: smirnoff on December 11, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
Lookin good :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on December 11, 2010, 09:27:58 PM
Yay! He's been on a number of lists now so I'm really hoping we'll get Koreeda on the big list. Shockingly, I might actually have Koreeda highest (15th or so)...who would have thought six months ago that he'd be a director I, of all people, would have a deep affinity for.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 12, 2010, 12:46:46 PM
The final list is about to be unveiled in chat as well as on the forums in 15 minutes! You should all come join the chat party!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: jbissell on December 13, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Here's my list. Was going to do a more expansive post but I'll just go the # of titles seen/favorite route. My only rule was I had to have seen at least 2 films from a director.

1. Paul Thomas Anderson - 5 - Boogie Nights
2. Wong Kar Wai - 5 -Chungking Express
3. Jean-Pierre Melville - 6 - Le Samourai
4. Akira Kurosawa - 7 - Seven Samurai
5. Krzysztof Kieslowski - 4 - Red
6. Alfred Hitchcock - 7 - Rear Window
7. Joel & Ethan Coen - 14 - Fargo
8. Terrence Malick - 4 - Days Of Heaven
9. Werner Herzog - 6 - Fitzcarraldo
10. Billy Wilder - 7 - The Apartment
11. Nicholas Ray - 4 - In A Lonely Place
12. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger - 3 - The Red Shoes
13. Orson Welles - 4 - Touch Of Evil
14. Andrzej Wajda - 3 - Ashes & Diamonds
15. Stanley Kubrick - 7 - 2001
16. Wes Anderson - 6 - Rushmore
17. John Cassavetes - 3 - A Woman Under The Influence
18. Errol Morris - 5 - Gates Of Heaven
19. Francis Ford Coppola - 9 - The Godfather Part II
20. Satyajit Ray - 3 - Pather Panchali
21. Sergio Leone - 4 - Once Upon A Time In The West
22. Ingmar Bergman - 2 - Wild Strawberries
23. Carl Theodor Dreyer - 3 - The Passion Of Joan Of Arc
24. Woody Allen - 11 - Annie Hall
25. Charles Chaplin - 4 - Modern Times
26. Apichatpong Weerasethakul - 2 - Syndromes And A Century
27. Michel Gondry - 4 - Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
28. Ermanno Olmi - 2 - Il Posto
29. Martin Scorcese - 17 - Taxi Driver
30. Robert Bresson - 2 - A Man Escaped
31. Jia Zhangke - 2 - Still Life
32. Agnes Varda - 5 - Le Bonheur
33. Jacques Demy - 2 - The Umbrellas Of Cherbourg
34. David Gordon Green - 4 - George Washington
35. David Lynch - 4 - Mulholland Dr.
36. Edward Yang - 2 - Yi Yi
37. Albert & David Maysles - 3 - Gimme Shelter
38. Gus Van Sant - 5 - Elephant
39. Ramin Bahrani - 3 - Man Push Cart
40. Jim Jarmusch - 7 - Ghost Dog: The Way Of The Samurai
41. Pedro Almodovar - 3 - All About My Mother
42. David Cronenberg - 5 - Videodrome
43. Steven Spielberg - 15 - Jaws
44. Roman Polanski - 3 - Chinatown
45. John Carpenter - 6 - The Thing
46. Nick Park - 5 - Wallace & Gromit in The Wrong Trousers
47. Robert Altman - 8 - McCabe & Mrs. Miller
48. Edgar Wright - 2 - Hot Fuzz
49. Terry Gilliam - 7 - Brazil
50. Terry Zwigoff - 4 - Ghost World
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: pixote on December 14, 2010, 11:37:33 AM
50. George Cukor —
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The Philadelphia Story (1940) and Adam's Rib (1949)


49. Zhang Yimou —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/rvzluv.jpg)
Red Sorghum (1987) and Shanghai Triad (1995)


48. Leo McCarey —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2m2w1ew.jpg)
Ruggles of Red Gap (1935) and Going My Way (1944)


47. Lewis Milestone —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/6f6n9j.jpg)
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) and A Walk in the Sun (1945)


46. Spike Lee —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/abh82g.jpg)
Do the Right Thing (1989) and Malcolm X (1992)


45. Fernando Eimbcke —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/n4z2vb.jpg)
Duck Season (2004) and Lake Tahoe (2008)


44. Barbara Kopple —
(http://i51.tinypic.com/23m4zyo.jpg)
Harlan County U.S.A. (1976) and American Dream (1990)


43. Kinji Fukasaku —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/scxi5j.jpg)
Sympathy for the Underdog (1971) and Battle Royale (2000)


42. Billy Wilder —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/10crj7o.jpg)
Stalag 17 (1953) and Some Like It Hot (1959)


41. John Sayles —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/5v2m8y.jpg)
City of Hope (1991) and Passion Fish (1992)


40. Hayao Miyazaki —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/34igroo.jpg)
Castle in the Sky (1986) and Spirited Away (2001)


39. Andrzej Wajda —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/1zgvqeh.jpg)
A Generation (1955) and Ashes and Diamonds (1958)


38. Jean-Pierre Melville —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/x4p66f.jpg)
Le Samourai (1967) and Le Cercle Rouge (1970)


37. Vittorio De Sica —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/n4vyo3.jpg)
Bicycle Thieves (1948) and Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow (1963)


36. Terrence Malick —
(http://i51.tinypic.com/160deyq.jpg)
The Thin Red Line (1998) and The New World (2005)


35. John Ford —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/29vhpua.jpg)
How Green Was My Valley (1941) and My Darling Clementine (1946)


34. René Clair —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/dgtiec.jpg)
Entr'acte (1924) and À nous la liberté (1931)


33. Buster Keaton —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/90njg7.jpg)
Sherlock Jr. (1924) and The General (1926)


32. Sidney Lumet —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/15g4k5.jpg)
Long Day's Journey Into Night (1962) and Dog Day Afternoon (1975)


31. Joseph L. Mankiewicz —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/a1qtqw.jpg)
A Letter to Three Wives (1949) and Sleuth (1972)


30. Quentin Tarantino —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/nr0sqe.jpg)
Pulp Fiction (1994) and Grindhouse (2007)


29. Fred Zinnemann —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/iz2fig.jpg)
The Nun's Story (1959) and A Man for All Seasons (1966)


28. David Lean —
(http://i51.tinypic.com/257daba.jpg)
Great Expectations (1946) and The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957)


27. Michael Moore —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2ag2eq.jpg)
Roger & Me (1989) and Sicko (2007)


26. Robert Altman —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/ta62w5.jpg)
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) and Buffalo Bill and the Indians, or Sitting Bull's History Lesson (1976)


25. Howard Hawks —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/246p7hc.jpg)
His Girl Friday (1940) and Red River (1948)


24. William Wyler —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2u91r0j.jpg)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) and Roman Holiday (1953)


23. Hou Hsiao-hsien —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/258xb9z.jpg)
A City of Sadness (1989) and Flight of the Red Balloon (2007)


22. Ken Loach —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/27xkni8.jpg)
Sweet Sixteen (2002) and The Wind That Shakes the Barley (2006)


21. Robert Bresson —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/30uxn3d.jpg)
A Man Escaped (1956) and L'argent (1983)


20. Yasujiro Ozu —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/1214pee.jpg)
I Was Born, But... (1932) and Tokyo Story (1953)


19. Chuck Jones —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/34np9xc.jpg)
Duck Amuck (1953) and What's Opera, Doc? (1957)


18. Kenji Mizoguchi —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/246778l.jpg)
Ugetsu (1953) and Sansho the Bailiff (1954)


17. Jean-Luc Godard —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2ewjkvp.jpg)
Breathless (1960) and 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her (1967)


16. Abbas Kiarostami —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/154ztr4.jpg)
Where Is the Friend's Home? (1987) and Close-Up (1990)


15. Stanley Kubrick —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2z6c70x.jpg)
Paths of Glory (1957) and 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)


14. Wes Anderson —
(http://i56.tinypic.com/27ybsxd.jpg)
The Royal Tenenbaums (2001) and Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)


13. Frank Capra —
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lxgrcy.jpg)
Mr. Deeds Goes to Town (1936) and It's a Wonderful Life (1946)


12. Fritz Lang —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2rcpc0k.jpg)
Die Nibelungen: Siegfried (1924) and M (1931)


11. William Wellman —
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2lthe2q.jpg)
The Ox-Bow Incident (1943) and The Story of G.I. Joe (1945)


10. Akira Kurosawa —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2l6d88.jpg)
Seven Samurai (1954) and Ran (1985)


9. David & Albert Maysles —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/10qb8cw.jpg)
Gimme Shelter (1970) and Grey Gardens (1975)


8. Pier Paolo Pasolini —
(http://i54.tinypic.com/1hdohy.jpg)
The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964) and Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom (1975)


7. Krzysztof Kieslowski —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/i724cj.jpg)
Three Colors: Blue (1993) and Three Colors: Red (1994)


6. Frederick Wiseman —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2afhctu.jpg)
Titicut Follies (1967) and La Danse: The Paris Opera Ballet (2009)


5. Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger —
(http://i53.tinypic.com/30cr5gh.jpg)
A Matter of Life and Death (1946) and Black Narcissus (1947)


4. Alfred Hitchcock —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/1zo7uba.jpg)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943) and Psycho (1960)


3. Jean Renoir —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2uppb28.jpg)
The Little Match Girl (1928) and The Rules of the Game (1939)


2. F.W. Murnau —
(http://i52.tinypic.com/mwqk2b.jpg)
Nosferatu, a Symphony of Horror (1922) and Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)


1. Robert Flaherty —
(http://i55.tinypic.com/muykqd.jpg)
Man of Aran (1934) and Louisiana Story (1948)



Many of my caveats (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4880.msg185443#msg185443) from last time still apply.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on December 14, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
Great list and presentation, pixote.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Verite on December 14, 2010, 11:49:16 AM
@pixote

Kind of surprised to see Fukasaku there since you didn't come across as enthusiastic in his Director's Best Poll.  Don't think I ever knew your feelings towards Tarantino and Malick.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: pixote on December 14, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
Great list and presentation, pixote.

Thanks, matt!

Kind of surprised to see Fukasaku there since you didn't come across as enthusiastic in his Director's Best Poll.  Don't think I ever knew your feelings towards Tarantino and Malick.

Just reread that. Yeah, I really undersold him there. I should have clarified that I really liked the Yakuza Papers. It's just that, at this remove, I couldn't say which of them was my favorite. That said, I was sort of surprised he made my list, too. In fact, a lot of the names up there surprised me.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on December 14, 2010, 12:04:26 PM
Great list and presentation, pixote.

I really need to watch A City of Sadness (and all the Hou films I haven't watched yet, really). Love the screenshots.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 14, 2010, 12:09:28 PM
Great list pix, I'm always interested in how you mix in more mainstream fare among your choices.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on December 14, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
caveats (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4880.msg185443#msg185443)
Minus the fun, effort, and self-discovery, your opening paragraph there made a lot of sense to me. I have a hard time with director lists, I think for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: jbissell on December 14, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Great list pix, especially the lovely pairs of screenshots.

Way to upstage my list, jerk! I knew I should've added some pizzazz.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: mañana on December 14, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
I like your list too, jbizz.  :)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Melvil on December 14, 2010, 01:25:59 PM
Pictures! Love the list, pix.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: zarodinu on December 14, 2010, 02:23:52 PM
Pixote's List

Win

Nice to see Murnau so high up, he totally deserves it.

Kenji Mizoguchi a great artist who I am pleasantly surprised to see make the list.

Awesome to see Andrzej Wajda, I hope one day he will make the big list.

Jean Renoir was an amazing recent discovery for me, mostly thanks to these lists.

Fail

I was wondering who was the one person who put freaken Michael Moore on their list, I was thinking Fly or Bondo but I should have known it was you all along.

Pier Paolo Pasolini - Pretentious artiste is artistically pretentious.  His movies need to remade by Michael Bay.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: jbissell on December 14, 2010, 04:12:39 PM
Awesome to see Andrzej Wajda, I hope one day he will make the big list.

Everyone should definitely at least watch Kanal, I can't see how someone wouldn't like it, even though it's not my favorite of his.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: verbALs on October 31, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
Whether there is a Top Directors List this year I want to list some of the directors that would be on mine this year. I had a three good films minimum requirement to my decisions last year and I still think 3 films is a bare minimum, if you want to call a director great. A year's film-watching mean the following would now be in my top 100;

Ingmar Bergman for Wild Strawberries, Smiles of a Summer Night, Persona
Agnes Varda Cleo, Le bonheur, Beaches of Agnes
Atom Egoyan The Sweet Hereafter, Ararat, Felicia's Journey
Francois Truffaut Tirez sur le pianiste, 400 Blows, Last metro, Stolen Kisses, Love on the run, Pocket Money, Day for Night (would probably be top ten now)
Hal Ashby The Last Detail, Being There, Harold & Maude
Jack Clayton The Innocents, Room At The Top, The Pumpkin Eater
Jaques Becker Casque d'or, Le trou, Tocuhez pas au grisbi
Jules Dassin Naked City, Night & the City, Rififi
Luchino Visconti Rocco & his Brothers, The Leopard, Death In Venice
Luis Bunuel Viridiana, Belle de Jour, The Exterminating Angel
Michael Haneke Cache, White Ribbon, Funny Games
Mike Leigh Abigails Party, Naked, Secrets & Lies, vera Drake, Happy-go-lucky, Another Year (a Leigh year)
Sam Fuller Shock Corridor, Naked Kiss, Pickup, Forty Guns
Werner Herzog Fitzcarraldo, Aguirre, Cobra Verde (the obsession trilogy)
Wim Wenders Paris Texas, Wings of Desire, The American Friend, Hammett

with apologies to JC Mitchell whose Hedwig & Shortbus are terrific whereas Rabbit Hole is a smelly mess.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: toro913 on October 31, 2011, 05:25:05 PM
If whoever usually does it every year doesn't want to I can run the list.

How does a November 30th deadline work for people?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: roujin on October 31, 2011, 06:55:02 PM
worm and I can do the list again if there's support for it.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Totoro on October 31, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Pixote doesn't have Tarkovsky or Ophuls on his list, but has Tarantino and Moore on it. 

 :(

Otherwise, nice list, I guess...
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on October 31, 2011, 08:14:25 PM
I would submit a ballot if this were done again, I basically have been keeping a running personal top-70 over in my directors marathon thread.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: PeacefulAnarchy on October 31, 2011, 08:25:38 PM
Please do it, I've been meaning to make a Top directors list for years.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on October 31, 2011, 10:04:56 PM
Does Nov 30th sound good to everyone? That way, we could have the final list posted by mid-December or so at the latest.

Now to think about how to make the whole list presentation thing exciting and stuff!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 31, 2011, 10:47:04 PM
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 01, 2011, 12:08:33 AM
Does Nov 30th sound good to everyone? That way, we could have the final list posted by mid-December or so at the latest.

Maybe 1 or 2 more weeks, give people a little extra time?

(I admit I want this for purely selfish reasons, I want to see if my Noir-vember viewings will have any impact on my list.)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Bondo on November 01, 2011, 12:30:13 AM
I say no extra time. There will always be more things you can watch that might change your list. The extension only would seem justified if for some reason a month isn't actually enough time for people to type 50 names on a list. There is no perfect, just get close.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Totoro on November 01, 2011, 12:43:09 AM
Every time someone forgets to vote for Tarkovsky, a horse rolls on its back...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iH5S8ry67ZE/SymE-DCnXuI/AAAAAAAAA0Y/29ffV9GHDYM/s400/andrei-rublev.jpg)

...and dies.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: Totoro on November 01, 2011, 01:20:18 AM
Boom.

01- Andrei Tarkovsky
02- Ingmar Bergman
03- Terrence Malick
04- Federico Fellini
05- Hayao Miyazaki
06- Max Ophuls
07- Robert Altman
08- Akira Kurosawa
09- David Lynch
10- Yasujiro Ozu

11- Stanley Kubrick
12- Errol Morris
13- Krzystof Kieslowski
14- John Ford
15- Alfred Hitchcock
16- Satayajit Ray
17- Apichatpong Weerasethakul
18- Stanley Donen
19- Buster Keaton
20- Wes Anderson

21- Orson Welles
22- Jean-Pierre Melville
23- Elia Kazan
24- Kenji Mizoguchi
25- David Lean
26- Luis Bunuel
27- Sergei Eisenstein
28- Carl Th. Dreyer
29- Vittorio De Sica

30- Francois Truffaut
31- Billy Wilder
32- Sergei Pajaranov
33- Francis Ford Coppola
34- Martin Scorsese
35- Luchino Visconti
36- Jean-Luc Godard
37- Mike Nichols
38- Sergio Leone
39- Richard Linklater
40- Rainer Werner Fassbinder

41- Steven Spielberg
42- Abbas Kiarostami
43- Terry Gilliam
44- Don Hertzfeldt
45- Michael Haneke
46- George Lucas
47- Roman Polanski
48- Agnes Varda
49- Wong Kar Wai
50- Raul Ruiz

Edit: Yeah, Kubrick is here twice. Whoopsie! Hmmm... Fixed!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: worm@work on November 01, 2011, 07:08:47 AM
Maybe 1 or 2 more weeks, give people a little extra time?

(I admit I want this for purely selfish reasons, I want to see if my Noir-vember viewings will have any impact on my list.)

I definitely understand where you're coming from. However, we (roujin and me) wanted to try and get this done before everyone gets busy with Christmas and/or the Filmspots.

That being said, the actual list announcement is probably going to be closer to Dec 15th and I've always accepted submissions right up until the night before the announcement. So people who need a little more time can always send in a late submission.

I'm hoping that we'll still have the majority of submissions by the deadline so that we can start tabulating etc and start preparing for the actual list presentation.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
Post by: MartinTeller on November 01, 2011, 09:46:18 AM
Based on my first draft, I have a lot in common with Totoro....

In my top 50:
02- Ingmar Bergman
03- Terrence Malick
04- Federico Fellini
08- Akira Kurosawa
09- David Lynch
10- Yasujiro Ozu
11- Stanley Kubrick
13- Krzystof Kieslowski
15- Alfred Hitchcock
16- Satayajit Ray
17- Apichatpong Weerasethakul
19- Buster Keaton
21- Orson Welles
24- Kenji Mizoguchi
25- David Lean
26- Luis Bunuel
30- Francois Truffaut
31- Billy Wilder
33- Francis Ford Coppola
34- Martin Scorsese
42- Abbas Kiarostami
48- Agnes Varda

in my 51-100:
01- Andrei Tarkovsky
05- Hayao Miyazaki
06- Max Ophuls
20- Wes Anderson
22- Jean-Pierre Melville
23- Elia Kazan
28- Carl Th. Dreyer
38- Sergio Leone
41- Steven Spielberg
47- Roman Polanski

also-rans:
45- Michael Haneke
49- Wong Kar Wai