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Title: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 20, 2010, 08:52:12 PM
Apologies to Strongbad

This is where one divides the real friends from those just feigning friendship.  If I hate a film you love, will you still speak civilly to me?

1. The Piano-- My most hated movie of all time.  I get angry just thinking about the film.
2. Pleasantville-- The worst preachy movie I've ever seen.
3. Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian-- I don't think it got a single scene right.  And they continue to let this story-murderer do the other books?
4. Dan in Real Life-- I cringed throughout this whole movie.  They couldn't do anything right, and they were so stupid about it.
5. Eraserhead-- Incomprehensible and ugly.
6. A Fish Called Wanda-- Just not funny.  And they tried so hard.
7. Happy Together-- What an ugly relationship. 
8. The Wild-- A really boring remake of Madagascar.  Wow, that is so pathetic.
9. Rambo: First Blood Part II-- The Vietnam war was bad enough.
10. Robin Hood-- I am really sorry, Corndog, but I just don't see anything in this film.

Honorable mentions (movies I didn't hate, but I didn't like):
Fanny and Alexander
Nosferatu
Happy Gilmore
Terms of Endearment
Tombstone

Now, who will be as bold as I?  Who will stand with me in the outcast corner?  Will YOU post your bottom 10?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 20, 2010, 08:58:15 PM
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Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 20, 2010, 09:03:02 PM
Pleasantville is preachy?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 20, 2010, 09:04:35 PM
Pleasantville is preachy?

Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 20, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
Pleasantville is preachy?

Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.

What? I just thought it was about people learning to live for what makes them happy. Sex can be one of those things. By that token it's also a film about extreme social and sexual repression and how it stifles our growth as human beings.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bondo on October 20, 2010, 09:08:45 PM
I'm not sure how to approach this list exactly. I feel like I'll just end up saying "it's boring" or "it's confusing and unstructured" for everything. I mean, Scary Movie 2 is one of the truly worst films I've seen but I wouldn't call it well loved. I'd use the FS100 to highlight loved ones but maybe that'd be passe?

1. Citizen Kane - So boring
2. Seven Samurai - So boring I couldn't finish it...twice.
3. There Will Be Blood - Seriously people, how can you not think Daniel Day Lewis' performance here is one of the worst in film history. It is the hammiest, most over the top piece of nonsense ever and completely brings down whatever quality the film might otherwise posses.
4. 8 1/2 - What the hell is going on?
5. Sunrise - So boring
6. Sunset Boulevard - So boring
7. In A Lonely Place - Why do people who don't like each other stick around each other so much?
8. M - So boring
9. Duck Soup - Criminally unfunny. Oh look, you cut his tie with scissors and set his hat on fire, that's funny. Oh wait, no, it isn't funny, you're just an arse.

And having run out of Top 100 films I gave 1 star to, for good measure:
10. Where The Wild Things Are - So boring
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 20, 2010, 09:11:02 PM
I'm not sure how to approach this list exactly. I feel like I'll just end up saying "it's boring" or "it's confusing and unstructured" for everything. I mean, Scary Movie 2 is one of the truly worst films I've seen but I wouldn't call it well loved. I'd use the FS100 to highlight loved ones but maybe that'd be passe?

1. Citizen Kane - So boring
2. Seven Samurai - So boring I couldn't finish it...twice.
3. There Will Be Blood - Seriously people, how can you not think Daniel Day Lewis' performance here is one of the worst in film history. It is the hammiest, most over the top piece of nonsense ever and completely brings down whatever quality the film might otherwise posses.
4. 8 1/2 - What the hell is going on?
5. Sunrise - So boring
6. Sunset Boulevard - So boring
7. In A Lonely Place - Why do people who don't like each other stick around each other so much?
8. M - So boring
9. Duck Soup - Criminally unfunny. Oh look, you cut his tie with scissors and set his hat on fire, that's funny. Oh wait, no, it isn't funny, you're just an arse.

And having run out of Top 100 films I gave 1 star to, for good measure:
10. Where The Wild Things Are - So boring

Well, Bondo, eight out of ten of these are in my top 50.  But I can still talk to you... in a little bit.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 20, 2010, 09:12:27 PM
9. Rambo: First Blood Part II-- The Vietnam war was bad enough.
:D

My list would look and sound much like Bondo's.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on October 20, 2010, 09:33:22 PM
7. In A Lonely Place - Why do people who don't like each other stick around each other so much?

Yeah, that NEVER EVER happens in real life.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 1SO on October 20, 2010, 09:41:20 PM
Based on the number of Lists they appear on icheckmovies
1. 2001
2. Vertigo
3. Dr. Strangelove
4. Chinatown
5. Blade Runner
6. 8 1/2 or The Wild Bunch
7. The Deer Hunter
8. Andrei Rublev
9. Solaris
10. The Seventh Seal


Reordered by personal preference from most unliked to least
1. Andrei Rublev
2. Dr. Strangelove
3. The Deer Hunter
4. 8 1/2 or The Seventh Seal
5. Solaris
6. The Wild Bunch
7. 2001
8. Vertigo
9. Blade Runner
10. Chinatown

Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Clovis8 on October 20, 2010, 09:44:24 PM
I have to agree 1SO. Vertigo is the only Hitchcock film I dont like. I cant believe a lot of people thinks it's the best.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 20, 2010, 09:49:36 PM
I have to agree 1SO. Vertigo is the only Hitchcock film I dont like. I cant believe a lot of people thinks it's the best.

Not just the best. It's one of the 5 best of all time.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 1SO on October 20, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
I have to agree 1SO. Vertigo is the only Hitchcock film I dont like. I cant believe a lot of people thinks it's the best.

Not just the best. It's one of the 5 best of all time.

How do you put it above Psycho, Rear Window, North by Northwest and Strangers on a Train?  Or is that your Top 5?  All Hitchcock.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 20, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
I have to agree 1SO. Vertigo is the only Hitchcock film I dont like. I cant believe a lot of people thinks it's the best.

Not just the best. It's one of the 5 best of all time.

How do you put it above Psycho, Rear Window, North by Northwest and Strangers on a Train?  Or is that your Top 5?  All Hitchcock.

It has all the sex and thrill of all those great Hitch movies, but it is also deeply psychological and hits on themes of love and obsession in a way thais much more developed and emotional than any of his other films. It's a movie that hits me in a really personal emotional way, whereas his other films never quite get beyond exceedingly well crafted but disconnected entertainments.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Melvil on October 20, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
This thread can only break my heart, so I suppose I oughta try and break others as well. ;D

I've got two big pairings that I expect most people will disagree with, but I find them all to be rather miserable movies:

1. Raging Bull / Taxi Driver
2. Elephant / Paranoid Park

Others might include The Squid and the Whale, Wendy and Lucy, The Searchers, [REC]...I think that's most of the big ones.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bondo on October 20, 2010, 10:52:07 PM
Hmm, I overlooked Vertigo. It would make the list with a boring/confusing tab.

Well, Bondo, eight out of ten of these are in my top 50.  But I can still talk to you... in a little bit.

Heh, you left things I like mostly untouched.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on October 20, 2010, 10:57:04 PM
Working from the top of the Filmspotters Pantheon 100 list, movies I don't like very much:

1. Once Upon a Time in the West
2. The Big Lebowski
3. Pan's Labyrinth
4. Yi Yi
5. Magnolia
6. The Matrix
7. Children of Men
8. The Shawshank Redemption
9. American Beauty
10. Paris, Texas

Truth is, I don't hate any of these (although The Matrix comes close).  But I do think they're all very overrated.


Now, out of the 954 films that I've seen from the latest "They Shoot Pictures, Don't They?" top 1000 list, these are my lowest rated, movies that I really hate (note: technically Birth of a Nation would be #3 on this list, but my objections to that film are almost entirely on ethical rather than cinematic grounds):

1. Tobacco Road
2. Limelight
3. Amarcord
4. Meshes of the Afternoon
5. Requiem for a Dream
6. The Fountainhead
7. The Party
8. Lancelot du Lac
9. The Thing from Another World
10. It's a Gift
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 20, 2010, 11:00:31 PM
1. Raging Bull / Taxi Driver
2. Elephant / Paranoid Park

I just got to see a double bill of Taxi Driver and Raging Bull at the TIFF Bell Lightbox. It was an amazing experience. Taxi Driver is just such a tonally dreamy film. And Raging Bull just crackles with dialogue, character, tragedy, visuals and editing.

Elephant and Paranoid Park are not for everyone, but I love them both. Elephant is one of the most moving films I have ever seen, and Paranoid Park is excellent as well.

Here's my Top 5 list, hope it annoys peeps:

1. Fight Club - Oh sure, tons of cool style, and some great work by Norton/Pitt, but my God is this film ever poorly paced. It feels so long and dragged out that by the end I hate myself for having sat through it all.

2. Terminator 2: Judgment Day - The action sequences are really awesome, but the rest of the movie is long and boring and childish. Just show me the bomb going off and the big truck chase and then helicopter stuff and I'm good. Throw out the rest, please.

3. Aliens - This one is a bit of a cheat. I do actually really get a kick outta this movie. BUT! I think there is way too much boring crap that does nothing in terms of creating suspense or tone or anything (unlike the original). It's all just story flab, and for a story that is actually stupidly simple. I also don't care for the overly macho military cabbage.

4. 2001: A Space Odyssey - Once again, a film I admire for its craft, and I do like a lot of the stuff with HAL, and a lot of the images are incredibly striking and memorable. BUT! It's too damn boring. There. I said it. It's long and boring. Really boring.

5. Die Hard - This just ain't no Back to the Future   ;)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 1SO on October 20, 2010, 11:48:39 PM
Congrats Fro.  I agree with 1 (and for the same reason) while the other 4 are in my Top 100.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: michael x on October 20, 2010, 11:50:30 PM
I tried to include why exactly I disliked each movie, but, just like with a movie you truly love, it's hard to put into words sometimes.

1. Oldboy. I found it weird yet uninteresting, especially everything after the hammer and octopus scenes. Felt like a clumsy post-Tarantino movie that traded emotional depth and a tight script for attempted shock value. That shock failed to resonate because I didn't know or care about any of the characters.

2. High Noon. The urgency isn't there, and without urgency, the film only has a shootout.

3. Die Hard 2. Wow was this terrible. I was shocked to see it got "two thumbs up" from Siskel & Ebert back in the day. Wouldn't be on the list otherwise

4. Le Cercle Rouge. Better than the previous three by a wide margin, but Melville's sense of pacing is excruciating, and the story wasn't interesting enough.

5. 2001: A Space Odyssey. Didn't like this when I viewed it years ago. Now that I've read a bit on the symbolism in the film I'd be curious to rewatch it, especially without expecting a traditional plot or characters. I don't expect the acid trip sequence to work any better, though.

6. American Beauty. Laborious, heavy retread of "suburban malaise".

7. All of the Star Wars films. Ok, so A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are entertaining for long stretches. With that caveat, these are awful films. The dialogue and acting is terrible, the philosophy would be dangerous if it wasn't so laughable, and the world, typified by the cantina sequence, isn't as interesting as it thinks it is. From the beginning, it's pretty clear that the nuts and bolts of this world - politics, economics, religion - haven't been seriously considered and worked out.

8. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada. Love so many parts of this, but the bizarre depiction of Texas in the first half of the film ruined it for me. I didn't buy this Texas as factual or truthful.

9. Films Clint Eastwood has directed. I don't sense a distinct stamp on his films and I think most of them are pretty silly, especially his more recent work. Love his acting, though.

10. Rashomon. Only Kurosawa I disliked so far. I know others have found the sexual politics disturbing. I was fine with them, in context, but the film generally wasn't very interesting or provoking. If this is the best that film can handle ideas, then I'll stick to the written word.

HM: Magnolia was only ok; Raging Bull escapes the list only because I liked the editing/cinematography so much; The Postman Always Rings Twice had so much wrong with it that I don't know where to start; and Andrei Rublev had a lot of underexplained and uninteresting sequences (at least, for a non-Russian viewer).
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: pixote on October 21, 2010, 12:00:31 AM
And by hate, I generally mean C-:

The Big Lebowski
Taxi Driver
The Searchers
Miami Vice
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
The Devil Wear Prada
A Simple Plan
Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father
The Prestige
Beau Travail

I mean to give the Ford film another chance some day.

pixote
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 21, 2010, 12:48:29 AM
Pleasantville is preachy?

Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.

hmmm - thats not really what it says at all. 
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 21, 2010, 12:50:36 AM
Pleasantville is preachy?

Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.

hmmm - thats not really what it says at all. 

I'm with ya, bro.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 12:52:56 AM
Pleasantville is preachy?
Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.
hmmm - thats not really what it says at all. 
I'm with ya, bro.
Yeah, not preachy, but it does suck.  :)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Verite on October 21, 2010, 12:54:26 AM
My three least favorite films from the top 30 of the Filmspotters Top 100 2010 edition.  Note that I don't hate any of them, and I think all are expertly crafted but THAT feeling I get from my favorite films isn't there.

Mulholland Drive
Inglourious Basterds
The Third Man
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 21, 2010, 01:00:19 AM
These all suck:

Everything i've seen from Guillermo Del Toro
The Unbearable Lightness of Being (writes its own headline)
The Hangover
The Mist
[REC]
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 21, 2010, 01:01:32 AM
Pleasantville is preachy?
Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.
hmmm - thats not really what it says at all. 
I'm with ya, bro.
Yeah, not preachy, but it does suck.  :)

Argle bargle!
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 01:07:06 AM
(http://i51.tinypic.com/qqxu8j.jpg)

The boys should redux this list 'cause I'd love to know Matty's picks.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 21, 2010, 01:45:04 AM
Pleasantville is preachy?

Didn't you notice?  "Sex of any kind is so good it colorizes you, no matter who else you hurt".  Not exactly in those words, but still.

hmmm - thats not really what it says at all. 

I'm with ya, bro.

Well, even if that's not what it said, I hate this movie so much I won't bother to find out what it did say.  It just isn't worth it.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 01:50:47 AM
Everything i've seen from Guillermo Del Toro
Not a Blade II man, eh?

This thread can only break my heart, so I suppose I oughta try and break others as well. ;D
Diabolical!
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 02:20:15 AM
Pfft.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 02:31:28 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 21, 2010, 05:43:51 AM
And by hate, I generally mean C-:

Beau Travail

pixote
Of all, that hurts most.

Well, except for Martin's disdain for Yi Yi.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Clovis8 on October 21, 2010, 07:24:10 AM


7. All of the Star Wars films.

Good choice. They all suck pretty bad.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on October 21, 2010, 07:53:54 AM
And by hate, I generally mean C-:

Beau Travail

pixote
Of all, that hurts most.

Well, except for Martin's disdain for Yi Yi.

I'm not too crazy about Beau Beefcake Travail either.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 21, 2010, 08:02:57 AM
Sometimes I just wonder if I can be friends with you people any more...
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 21, 2010, 08:18:49 AM
All of these:
1. Citizen Kane
2. Seven Samurai
3. There Will Be Blood
3. Dr. Strangelove
4. Chinatown
6. The Wild Bunch
1. Raging Bull / Taxi Driver
2. Elephant / Paranoid Park
1. Oldboy
10. Rashomon
The Searchers
Miami Vice
Mulholland Drive
Inglourious Basterds
The Third Man

Hmm, what else:

400 Blows
Paths of Glory
Gran Torino
Ran
Dog Day Afternoon
Rosemary's Baby
Lost Highway
El Topo

Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 21, 2010, 09:34:35 AM
Ooh yeah, forgot about Clint - he may be the worst of all.  And yet I still go see his stuff...

Everything i've seen from Guillermo Del Toro
Not a Blade II man, eh?

Definitely not - its the worst in the series (Though only because Trinity has Parker Posey.)  The first is really the only good one.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on October 21, 2010, 10:21:21 AM
The Mist - The only people I know who like this are on this forum.  I don't get it.
The Vengeance Trilogy
The Thin Red Line
Everything i've seen from Guillermo Del Toro
Scarface
Heat
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 21, 2010, 10:56:59 AM
Platoon and Gladiator are the main two that come to mind. For someone who dislikes a lot of films (at least according to other people), I'm drawing a blank.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oneaprilday on October 21, 2010, 10:57:54 AM
I'm actually finding I have more in common with some here than I thought. :)  

I don't like these ones either:

2. Elephant

Others might include . .  The Searchers

Working from the top of the Filmspotters Pantheon 100 list, movies I don't like very much:

5. Magnolia

The Searchers

pixote

Inglourious Basterds


Others I dislike very much that many others seem to love:

Mystic River
Reservoir Dogs
Almost Famous
Goodfellas
Shutter Island
Kill Bill Vol. 2
25th Hour



(For the record, Mystic River (and maybe 25th Hour) is the only one of those I truly hate. All the others I can understand, I think, why people like/love.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 1SO on October 21, 2010, 11:07:13 AM
Platoon and Gladiator are the main two that come to mind. For someone who dislikes a lot of films (at least according to other people), I'm drawing a blank.
Top Gun
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 21, 2010, 11:08:29 AM
You people can just all remind me of the stuff you love that I hate. I can't be bothered.  :P

I got too many movies to love on right now.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: joker on October 21, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
Inglorious Basterds
Alien 3
Thin Red Line
Oldboy
Grave of the Fireflies
Godfather Part 2
Dr Strangelover
2001
Any Star Trek movie before the reboot
Planet of the Apes
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 11:51:05 AM
A couple of these made me angry, but most of them just underwhelmed.

(500) Days of Summer
Chungking Express
Before Sunset
Magnolia
MASH
Taxi Driver
The 40 Year Old Virgin
The Philadelphia Story
The Searchers
Vertigo
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: pixote on October 21, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
From the IMDb 250 (aka, Sucks to Be You, Sam!):

Taxi Driver
The Prestige
The Green Mile
Up
Gran Torino (one assumes) :)
Gladiator
Sin City
The Big Lebowski
Million Dollar Baby
Scarface
Mystic River
Crash

And yay to whomever mentioned Sideways.

pixote
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 21, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
From the IMDb 250 (aka, Sucks to Be You, Sam!):
8)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: joker on October 21, 2010, 12:28:54 PM
A couple of these made me angry, but most of them just underwhelmed.

(500) Days of Summer
Chungking Express
Magnolia
MASH
Taxi Driver
The 40 Year Old Virgin
The Double Life of Veronique
The Philadelphia Story
The Searchers
Vertigo


Taxi Driver?  40 YOV? Vertigo?  What is wrong with you... lol
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 21, 2010, 12:32:49 PM
And yay to whomever mentioned Sideways.

(http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/nosferatu_clutching_heart_small.jpg?w=402&h=410)

You wound me, sir!
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 21, 2010, 12:44:05 PM
Hooray great thread! Nothing wrong with a bit of artificial hate (since you would normally turn off a film before it got to the hating stage)
 
The ones mentioned so far;
Magnolia, Shutter Island, American Beauty, Paths of Glory, Almost Famous

Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away- 'I don't get it' is a poor criticism, but that's all I can say.
In the Mood for Love- dull, pointless.
Lost in Translation- I think we now know those meaningful looks of that girl (forgotten her name) aren't meaningful at all, just vacuous.
Breathless- A terrible crime story dressed up as something else; annoyingly French.
Bringing Up Baby- Shrill, lop-sided- Grant monumentally miscast.
Forrest Gump- Dumb is as dumb does.

Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 21, 2010, 12:50:39 PM
Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away- 'I don't get it' is a poor criticism, but that's all I can say.

[Insert yelling here]
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 21, 2010, 01:08:15 PM
Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away- 'I don't get it' is a poor criticism, but that's all I can say.

[Insert yelling here]

Nothing to yell at, 'Noke.  We just need to be saddened at the pathetic state of his withered soul. :)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 21, 2010, 01:10:04 PM
Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away- 'I don't get it' is a poor criticism, but that's all I can say.

[Insert yelling here]

Nothing to yell at, 'Noke.  We just need to be saddened at the pathetic state of his withered soul. :)

True, ut it's much harder to shove that into an empty post, so I stuck to yelling.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 21, 2010, 01:11:05 PM
Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away- 'I don't get it' is a poor criticism, but that's all I can say.

[Insert yelling here]

Nothing to yell at, 'Noke.  We just need to be saddened at the pathetic state of his withered soul. :)

True, ut it's much harder to shove that into an empty post, so I stuck to yelling.

Smirnoff told me it was ok to hate on these films. Now I realise he was just setting me up.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 01:15:05 PM
Taxi Driver?  40 YOV? Vertigo?  What is wrong with you... lol
Just keeping it real.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 21, 2010, 01:32:31 PM
Breathless- A terrible crime story dressed up as something else; annoyingly French.

:)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oldkid on October 21, 2010, 01:54:09 PM
Princess Mononoke/Spirited Away- 'I don't get it' is a poor criticism, but that's all I can say.

[Insert yelling here]

Nothing to yell at, 'Noke.  We just need to be saddened at the pathetic state of his withered soul. :)

True, ut it's much harder to shove that into an empty post, so I stuck to yelling.

Smirnoff told me it was ok to hate on these films. Now I realise he was just setting me up.

Do you really believe everything that Smirnoff tells you?
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

There's a reason he's called "Smirnoff" you know...
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 21, 2010, 02:37:58 PM
Did I really say that? ;)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 21, 2010, 02:50:02 PM
smirnoff doesn't get you drunk does it? Anyway you said A Fish Called Wanda wasn't funny....of all the strange things to say
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 21, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
Truth be told, I can't stand the stuff.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 21, 2010, 02:55:49 PM
Truth be told, I can't stand the stuff.

Well I couldn't drink a whole bottle at once but...
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 21, 2010, 04:14:32 PM
1) Dnevnoy Dozor (Day Watch, Unrated, 2006) & Nochnoy Dozor (Night Watch, 2004)
2) Waitress (2007)
3) MASH (1970)
4) The Last Temptation Of Christ (1988)
5) The Prestige (2006)
6) Vidas Secas (Barren Lives, 1963)
7) Chelovek S Kino-apparatom (The Man With The Movie Camera, 1929)
8) Trick ‘R Treat (2007)
9) A Walk In The Sun (1945)
10) Scarface (1983)

I absolutely detest the first five, but numbers 6 through 10 either bore me or are just made very poorly, I don't detest them in any way. I would have included the 2004 Crash, but really, at this point in time that movie is hated more than loved. Natural Born Killers also would have made the list, but I was unsure whether the majority of people loved or hated that one.

Some honorable mentions,

Gilda (1946)
The English Patient (1996)
The Dark Crystal (1982)
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1978)
Jigokumon (Gate Of Hell, 1953)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934)
Touching The Void (2003)
Monsieur Verdoux (1947)
Close Encounters Of The Third Kind (1977)
The Dark Knight (2008)
Gigi (1958)
Jules Et Jim (Jules And Jim, 1962)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
Le Scaphandre Et Le Papillon (The Diving Bell And The Butterfly, 2007)
The Graduate (1967)
Chicago (2002)
Wong Fei Hung (Once Upon A Time In China, 1991)
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
Mon Oncle D’Amérique (My American Uncle, 1980)
Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004)
Blade Runner (1982)
Star Wars (Special Edition, 1977)
Akira (1988)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on October 21, 2010, 04:26:53 PM
I know I can't expect everyone to like the same things that I like, but this thread still makes me sad.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 21, 2010, 04:41:15 PM
I think I'm the only person who loves Day Watch.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 21, 2010, 04:42:06 PM
I think I'm the only person who loves Day Watch.

You are not alone, that movie, and its director, have legions of fans.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 1SO on October 21, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
I think I'm the only person who loves Day Watch.
Don't you forget about me.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Adrienne on October 21, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
verbALs, have at you sir, annoyingly French  :-X

1. Crank hurry up and DIE
2. Sin City awful gibberish
3. The Machinist method acting gone mad
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else
5. Unbreakable oops
6. Moon terminally boring
7. Last Tango in Paris Marlon, you old fool
8. Don't Look Now loves itself
9. A Cock and Bull Story I just don't get what's so clever
10. Donnie Brasco lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else

Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Verite on October 21, 2010, 05:00:33 PM
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else

There isn't much shouting in that one.  Just a handful of instances that are terrible, but then again maybe that equals lots to you  :)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Adrienne on October 21, 2010, 05:03:56 PM
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else
There isn't much shouting in that one.  Just a handful pf instances that are terrible, but then again maybe that equals lots to you  :)
Ta  :)
Maybe a little bit of SHOUTING and not a lot else then
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Verite on October 21, 2010, 05:06:03 PM
3. There Will Be Blood - Seriously people, how can you not think Daniel Day Lewis' performance here is one of the worst in film history. It is the hammiest, most over the top piece of nonsense ever and completely brings down whatever quality the film might otherwise posses.

The only time I think that applies to that performance is in the final scene, and I think it's fitting since Plainview is drunk out of his f*ckin' mind and is releasing a lot of resentment towards Eli that he had to hold in to get his oil.  Perhaps the Baptismal scene as well, but Plainview is pissed off there because he had to give in to Eli and was being humiliated.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Verite on October 21, 2010, 05:11:12 PM
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else
There isn't much shouting in that one.  Just a handful pf instances that are terrible, but then again maybe that equals lots to you  :)
Ta  :)
Maybe a little bit of SHOUTING and not a lot else then

I see in it masterful cinematography and portrayals of Hawskian professionalism and group dynamics, love life being at the mercy of one's profession, personal codes, urge, loneliness, and crime in the context of class (specifically in the case of Dennis Haybert's character).
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on October 21, 2010, 05:19:09 PM
lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else

This sums up how I feel about Clue.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on October 21, 2010, 05:27:09 PM
I should watch Heat again. I was pretty lukewarm on it at the time, but I haven't seen it since it was first on video.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: enzobot24 on October 21, 2010, 08:51:24 PM
verbALs, have at you sir, annoyingly French  :-X

1. Crank hurry up and DIE
2. Sin City awful gibberish
3. The Machinist method acting gone mad
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else
5. Unbreakable oops
6. Moon terminally boring
7. Last Tango in Paris Marlon, you old fool
8. Don't Look Now loves itself
9. A Cock and Bull Story I just don't get what's so clever
10. Donnie Brasco lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else



Haha... you may very well be the anti-me. Heat, Sin City, and Moon are some of my favorite (recent) movies.

I will say this: didn't care much for Crank.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 21, 2010, 09:09:12 PM
I think I'm the only person who loves Day Watch.

Not as much as Night Watch but I do loves me some.


2. Sin City awful gibberish
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else
5. Unbreakable oops
6. Moon terminally boring
8. Don't Look Now loves itself
9. A Cock and Bull Story I just don't get what's so clever
HUH?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on October 21, 2010, 09:14:58 PM
Go Daywatch! ;D
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: StudentOFilm on October 21, 2010, 10:03:35 PM
I tend to be pretty on the ball when it comes to agreeing with critical consensus. However, I can mention two I find overrated that instantly jump into my mind.

I don't hate them, but I don't understand all the praise for In the Mood for Love and Vergito. They're good, but I don't think they are the best that Wong or Hitchcock has to offer as some people make them out to be.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: dallegre on October 21, 2010, 10:11:17 PM
A couple of these are off the top of my head, but otherwise I just looked at IMDB's top 250.

Heat - It has two good scenes, Pacino and De Niro in the cafe and the bank robbery, that's about it
Ronin - Boring, boring, boring, it has one good scene with Michael Lonsdale
North by Northwest - pretty bland, but it's just not as fun as it should be
Rashomon - just overall boring, with creepily over the top performances
Slacker - talking heads that don't have anything particularly interesting to say
Die Hard 2 - A totally generic action picture, pales in comparison with Die Hard, and Die Hard 3
Blood Simple - a few redeeming qualities, but pretty subpar
Fallen Angels - the free-form narrative doesn't really work, and makes it convoluted and disoriented

I'll post more if I think of them later.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 22, 2010, 01:52:27 AM
6. Moon terminally boring

This made me sad more then anything else.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Adrienne on October 22, 2010, 02:29:41 AM
4. Heat lots of SHOUTING and not a lot else
There isn't much shouting in that one.  Just a handful pf instances that are terrible, but then again maybe that equals lots to you  :)
Ta  :)
Maybe a little bit of SHOUTING and not a lot else then
I see in it masterful cinematography and portrayals of Hawskian professionalism and group dynamics, love life being at the mercy of one's profession, personal codes, urge, loneliness, and crime in the context of class (specifically in the case of Dennis Haybert's character).
That told me  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Adrienne on October 22, 2010, 02:30:25 AM
6. Moon terminally boring
This made me sad more then anything else.
:'(
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on October 23, 2010, 02:36:34 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - A boring franchise with outdated FX, horrendous scripts and stories, terrible performances, and just all around boring.
2. The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy - Another boring trilogy that is overly long with plot holes you can easily spot that would completely discount most of the story from happening.
3. The Matrix - An overstuffed CGI fest that completely turned me off.
4. The Seven Samurai - A film that would be great had it been an hour shorter and more tamed, realistic performances.
5. The Sixth Sense - A drull, lifeless (pardon the pun) film that totally relies on its out of left field ending for the film, and the ending, for me, does not work.
6. Superbad - Just because you are crude does not mean you are funny.
7. Slumdog Millionaire - A cliche ridden story where its formula gets really annoying after 20 minutes, plus a completely stupid and unnecessary ending.
8. No Country For Old Men - Yawn.
9. Alien - See above comment.
10. Gladiator - Why are they British? And why are they yelling so much? And why do I care? Oh, I don't.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 23, 2010, 04:16:16 PM

6. Superbad - Just because you are crude does not mean you are funny.
God if I had a pound for every time someone had said that to me.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on October 23, 2010, 04:18:10 PM

6. Superbad - Just because you are crude does not mean you are funny.
God if I had a pound for every time someone had said that to me.


You'd have a pound? (ba-dum-chih)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 23, 2010, 04:31:24 PM

6. Superbad - Just because you are crude does not mean you are funny.
God if I had a pound for every time someone had said that to me.


You'd have a pound? (ba-dum-chih)
;D
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 23, 2010, 04:34:01 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on October 23, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

The effects in 2001 aren't thaaaat dated. They don't look like modern effects, but they still hold up really well. As do the majority of the effects in Star Wars. Ghostbusters is definitely hit or miss.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on October 23, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I completely disagree with that 2001 statement. As for Ghostbusters, I think the FX still work in the context of the film.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: enzobot24 on October 23, 2010, 05:47:06 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - A boring franchise with outdated FX, horrendous scripts and stories, terrible performances, and just all around boring.
2. The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy - Another boring trilogy that is overly long with plot holes you can easily spot that would completely discount most of the story from happening.
3. The Matrix - An overstuffed CGI fest that completely turned me off.
4. The Seven Samurai - A film that would be great had it been an hour shorter and more tamed, realistic performances.
5. The Sixth Sense - A drull, lifeless (pardon the pun) film that totally relies on its out of left field ending for the film, and the ending, for me, does not work.
6. Superbad - Just because you are crude does not mean you are funny.
7. Slumdog Millionaire - A cliche ridden story where its formula gets really annoying after 20 minutes, plus a completely stupid and unnecessary ending.
8. No Country For Old Men - Yawn.
9. Alien - See above comment.
10. Gladiator - Why are they British? And why are they yelling so much? And why do I care? Oh, I don't.

So... you don't like Ridley Scott or trilogies?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 23, 2010, 06:46:23 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I completely disagree with that 2001 statement. As for Ghostbusters, I think the FX still work in the context of the film.

What's to disagree with? The effects ARE out of date. Period. They look great, but if they remade the film today they would not use the same methods to achieve them. And that's why I ask, what does it matter how out of date the Star Wars effects are?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 23, 2010, 07:23:49 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I completely disagree with that 2001 statement. As for Ghostbusters, I think the FX still work in the context of the film.

What's to disagree with? The effects ARE out of date. Period. They look great, but if they remade the film today they would not use the same methods to achieve them. And that's why I ask, what does it matter how out of date the Star Wars effects are?

Especially when the effects in Empire aren't out of date and could be put up against any effects being done today and it would be hard to tell the difference in the films.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: enzobot24 on October 23, 2010, 10:04:12 PM
Well, practical and optical effects hold up better. CGI has been improving dramatically - so much so that CGI-intensive films from 10 years ago (Armageddon for example) look incredibly cheesy and fake today.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: #33 on October 23, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
1) Elephant/Paranoid Park-  Not sure which one I was more disinterested in; found both kind of pretentious and interminable, despite the relatively short running times.  Was a little disappointed when Matty named Elephant his best of the decade; have no problem with and can understand others liking these films, but #1 of the decade?  Come on!
2) Where the Wild Things Are- Know this was pretty divisive- I was on the extreme end of the 'hated it' side.  
3) Man on Wire- Big documentary fan, thought I would love this one going in... not sure what all the hype was about.  Was not a fan of the reenactments.  
4) L’Enfant- Would also include the Dardenne brothers' Lorna's Silence among recent disappointments; don't mind slow, depressing films when done right, but just didn't find these stories engaging enough to compensate for what I found to be unlikable characters and drab landscapes... don't mind unlikable characters, but found the characters in these films somewhat irritating and uninteresting to watch.  
5) Punch-Drunk Love- There Will Be Blood in my Top 10 of the Decade, Punch-Drunk Love may be my #1 most overrated.
6)  Strangers on a Train- Seemed ridiculously dated to me when I watched it (yet the more dated aspects of most of Hitchcock's other films don't normally bother me that much).  
7) The 400 Blows- Kind of dozed through much of it; having not seen much Truffaut, was glad that I liked Jules and Jim quite a bit on a recent viewing.  
8) Grave of the Fireflies- Went in really wanting to love this due to all the FS love, but was pretty sure high expectations/relative apathy towards animated features would lead to disappointment; I was right!  
9) The Deer Hunter- Not sure what the overall opinion of the film is among the FS listenership, but know I checked my watch pretty much every scene not involving Russian roulette.  
10) Taxi Driver- Don't dislike it, but far and away my least favorite of Scorcese's major films.  
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on October 23, 2010, 10:55:58 PM
So many wounds, I knew many of them would be coming, but still they hurt.

Comments first:

7. In A Lonely Place - Why do people who don't like each other stick around each other so much?

Yeah, that NEVER EVER happens in real life.

Isn't that what forums are for.

Dr Strangelover

Is that the porno version?

I think I'm the only person who loves Day Watch.
Don't you forget about me.

I enjoy it also, along with Night Watch. Where is Twilight Watch?

Ok, time to get some off my chest. I will not say I 'hate' these films, too strong a word, just find the love for them, unjustified, well I can not see it and refuse to listen to any justification.

2001 - Wake me up when its over, major advancements in SFX aside, yawn
Barry Lyndon - Also wake me up when its over
Signs - The last MNS film I have seen, I dread the thought that those after this film are worse.
Syndromes and Century - just did not work

That's it for now
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bondo on October 24, 2010, 12:11:30 AM
Signs - The last MNS film I have seen, I dread the thought that those after this film are worse.

They aren't. Signs is his worst film (starting with Sixth Sense and at least until Airbender which I've not seen).
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on October 24, 2010, 02:23:35 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I completely disagree with that 2001 statement. As for Ghostbusters, I think the FX still work in the context of the film.

What's to disagree with? The effects ARE out of date. Period. They look great, but if they remade the film today they would not use the same methods to achieve them. And that's why I ask, what does it matter how out of date the Star Wars effects are?

Especially when the effects in Empire aren't out of date and could be put up against any effects being done today and it would be hard to tell the difference in the films.

Bill is dead on.  There are so many Effects shots in Empire that are perfectly seamless I guarantee you've never noticed them.  And most of them are still more realistic looking than modern CGI.  Especially the snow stuff.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bondo on October 24, 2010, 02:38:03 PM
The Double Life of Veronique: Yeah, I'm sure this "mood" based, more avant garde style of film is a perfectly valid direction of film fans, but I like plot first and character second, mood last, and that is at least as valid. This prioritizes things the opposite of how I prefer them.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: ZBetonte on October 24, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Well, I can honestly say that there is only one movie that I absolutely despise:

The Longest Day- Such a good cast that just stands around for 2 1/2 hrs and talks about "What we're gonna do"

I would agree that films like:

Scarface

Casino

Top Gun

Are all extremely overrated.

I think most of Spielberg's work since Saving Private Ryan has been C- grade at best.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Private Hudson on October 26, 2010, 03:43:30 AM
Apologies to Strongbad

This is where one divides the real friends from those just feigning friendship.  If I hate a film you love, will you still speak civilly to me?

1. The Piano-- My most hated movie of all time.  I get angry just thinking about the film.
2. Pleasantville-- The worst preachy movie I've ever seen.
3. Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian-- I don't think it got a single scene right.  And they continue to let this story-murderer do the other books?
4. Dan in Real Life-- I cringed throughout this whole movie.  They couldn't do anything right, and they were so stupid about it.
5. Eraserhead-- Incomprehensible and ugly.
6. A Fish Called Wanda-- Just not funny.  And they tried so hard.
7. Happy Together-- What an ugly relationship. 
8. The Wild-- A really boring remake of Madagascar.  Wow, that is so pathetic.
9. Rambo: First Blood Part II-- The Vietnam war was bad enough.
10. Robin Hood-- I am really sorry, Corndog, but I just don't see anything in this film.

Honorable mentions (movies I didn't hate, but I didn't like):
Fanny and Alexander
Nosferatu
Happy Gilmore
Terms of Endearment
Tombstone

Now, who will be as bold as I?  Who will stand with me in the outcast corner?  Will YOU post your bottom 10?


The only one I'd have any disagreement with on this list is a Fish Called Wanda but otherwise I'm in agreement.

I've always disliked Rambo II - just think it became a mindless action movie where the first film made a point and had a decent story.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 26, 2010, 04:09:34 AM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I still think that Ghostbusters has some pretty good effects. Sure, it's hit or miss, the dogs are pretty bad, but the stay puft marshmallow man makes up for everything. But Star Wars is still so much better.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 26, 2010, 04:11:12 AM
3. The Matrix - An overstuffed CGI fest that completely turned me off.
4. The Seven Samurai - A film that would be great had it been an hour shorter and more tamed, realistic performances.
8. No Country For Old Men - Yawn.

Silly Man.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 26, 2010, 04:11:43 AM
1) Elephant/Paranoid Park-  Not sure which one I was more disinterested in; found both kind of pretentious and interminable, despite the relatively short running times.  Was a little disappointed when Matty named Elephant his best of the decade; have no problem with and can understand others liking these films, but #1 of the decade?  Come on!
2) Where the Wild Things Are- Know this was pretty divisive- I was on the extreme end of the 'hated it' side.  
3) Man on Wire- Big documentary fan, thought I would love this one going in... not sure what all the hype was about.  Was not a fan of the reenactments.  
4) L’Enfant- Would also include the Dardenne brothers' Lorna's Silence among recent disappointments; don't mind slow, depressing films when done right, but just didn't find these stories engaging enough to compensate for what I found to be unlikable characters and drab landscapes... don't mind unlikable characters, but found the characters in these films somewhat irritating and uninteresting to watch.  
5) Punch-Drunk Love- There Will Be Blood in my Top 10 of the Decade, Punch-Drunk Love may be my #1 most overrated.
6)  Strangers on a Train- Seemed ridiculously dated to me when I watched it (yet the more dated aspects of most of Hitchcock's other films don't normally bother me that much).  
7) The 400 Blows- Kind of dozed through much of it; having not seen much Truffaut, was glad that I liked Jules and Jim quite a bit on a recent viewing.  
8) Grave of the Fireflies- Went in really wanting to love this due to all the FS love, but was pretty sure high expectations/relative apathy towards animated features would lead to disappointment; I was right!  
9) The Deer Hunter- Not sure what the overall opinion of the film is among the FS listenership, but know I checked my watch pretty much every scene not involving Russian roulette.  
10) Taxi Driver- Don't dislike it, but far and away my least favorite of Scorcese's major films.  

This list hurt the most so far. Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: chardy999 on October 26, 2010, 06:30:04 AM
Working my way down the top 100 and picking out the ones I intensely dislike.

1. 2001
2. Strangelove
3. 400 Blows
4. Sunset Blvd.
5. Taxi Driver
6. Night of the Hunter
7. Badlands
8. Ran
9. Glengarry Glen Ross
10. Trainspotting

I only hate 2001 and Night of the Hunter.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on October 26, 2010, 07:22:28 AM
Working my way down the top 100 and picking out the ones I intensely dislike.

1. 2001
2. Strangelove
3. 400 Blows
4. Sunset Blvd.
5. Taxi Driver
6. Night of the Hunter
7. Badlands
8. Ran
9. Glengarry Glen Ross
10. Trainspotting

I only hate 2001 and Night of the Hunter.

How does one hate 2001?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: smirnoff on October 26, 2010, 08:21:09 AM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I still think that Ghostbusters has some pretty good effects. Sure, it's hit or miss, the dogs are pretty bad, but the stay puft marshmallow man makes up for everything. But Star Wars is still so much better.

I wasn't actually addressing the quality of the effects but asking what age has to do with anything, as he listed "outdated FX" and not "bad looking FX". Maybe that's what was implied though... GC?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: ¡Keith! on October 26, 2010, 10:06:22 AM
Didn't realise so many of yins were anti-Taxi Driver.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: ZBetonte on October 26, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
Didn't realise so many of yins were anti-Taxi Driver.

I know! This has blown my mind haha
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on October 26, 2010, 04:12:01 PM
1. The Original Star Wars Trilogy - outdated FX

Does this really factor into it though? You like 2001 and Ghostbusters... their effects are just as outdated.

I still think that Ghostbusters has some pretty good effects. Sure, it's hit or miss, the dogs are pretty bad, but the stay puft marshmallow man makes up for everything. But Star Wars is still so much better.

I wasn't actually addressing the quality of the effects but asking what age has to do with anything, as he listed "outdated FX" and not "bad looking FX". Maybe that's what was implied though... GC?

It was.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: bobbyb on October 27, 2010, 12:35:33 AM
Overall, this thread is kinda giving me the shakes. (I can't even comprehend all of the Taxi Driver hate.) Still...

1. Post-Pulp Tarantino - The ripping off films thing (ok fine...paying homage thing) that he does was mildly entertaining at first, but now it's just distracting and everything after PF is all too mediocre and gratuitous for my liking.

2. The Departed - While this forum seems to have the hate on for Taxi Driver, I think The Departed is easily one of Scorsese's worst films. There is not one fascinating character in that movie and I can't help but feel that most people are just partially blinded by all of the star power on the screen, as opposed to actual film quality.

3. Post-Insomniac Nolan - I actually like all of Chris's movies as far as the enjoyable popcorn flick goes, but the man has an amazing way of tricking people into thinking his flicks are much more than they actually are. One example: I interpreted the spinning top at the end of Inception as kind of a funny way to end the movie, similar to the smiling plant at the end of Little Shop of Horrors, but for some reason it made everybody else "think." huh?

4. Avatar - One of the worst movies of all time. Period.

5. Duck Soup - I think this was probably quite funny when it came out, but having only seen it recently, I can't remember the last time I groaned more at so much corny-ness. One of the earlier episodes of Cinecast made a similar argument concerning Mel Brooks movies, but those ones still make me laugh personally. This didn't.

6. Elephant - I suppose that I respect this one to an extent, but this film just made me feel empty for some reason. I don't go to the movies to feel empty.

7. Die Hard - Bruce Willis? Really?

8. Lawrence of Arabia - I think maybe I have to see this one again, but when I saw it several years ago I thought it was visually stunning, but otherwise boring as cuss.

9. Judd Apatow movies - Some I hate, others are a smooth pile of meh, but overall I can only take so many poopoo/peepee jokes.

10. Moulin Rouge - I am an unabashed musical lover, but hearing Nirvana performed show-tune style just bugs me ;)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bondo on October 27, 2010, 01:36:20 AM
Love all the Duck Soup hatred going on. Makes me feel smug and superior.

Oh like you need an excuse :P
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: 'Noke on October 27, 2010, 06:06:01 AM
6. Elephant - I suppose that I respect this one to an extent, but this film just made me feel empty for some reason. I don't go to the movies to feel empty.

So you thought it worked?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on October 27, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
Overall, this thread is kinda giving me the shakes. (I can't even comprehend all of the Taxi Driver hate.) Still...

1. Post-Pulp Tarantino - The ripping off films thing (ok fine...paying homage thing) that he does was mildly entertaining at first, but now it's just distracting and everything after PF is all too mediocre and gratuitous for my liking.

2. The Departed - While this forum seems to have the hate on for Taxi Driver, I think The Departed is easily one of Scorsese's worst films. There is not one fascinating character in that movie and I can't help but feel that most people are just partially blinded by all of the star power on the screen, as opposed to actual film quality.

3. Post-Insomniac Nolan - I actually like all of Chris's movies as far as the enjoyable popcorn flick goes, but the man has an amazing way of tricking people into thinking his flicks are much more than they actually are. One example: I interpreted the spinning top at the end of Inception as kind of a funny way to end the movie, similar to the smiling plant at the end of Little Shop of Horrors, but for some reason it made everybody else "think." huh?

4. Avatar - One of the worst movies of all time. Period.

5. Duck Soup - I think this was probably quite funny when it came out, but having only seen it recently, I can't remember the last time I groaned more at so much corny-ness. One of the earlier episodes of Cinecast made a similar argument concerning Mel Brooks movies, but those ones still make me laugh personally. This didn't.

6. Elephant - I suppose that I respect this one to an extent, but this film just made me feel empty for some reason. I don't go to the movies to feel empty.

7. Die Hard - Bruce Willis? Really?

8. Lawrence of Arabia - I think maybe I have to see this one again, but when I saw it several years ago I thought it was visually stunning, but otherwise boring as cuss.

9. Judd Apatow movies - Some I hate, others are a smooth pile of meh, but overall I can only take so many poopoo/peepee jokes.

10. Moulin Rouge - I am an unabashed musical lover, but hearing Nirvana performed show-tune style just bugs me ;)

I agree with the Departed comments.  Everything else though (namely the Die Hard and Lawrence of Arabia comments) shake me to the bone.  Welcome to the boards.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 27, 2010, 02:42:01 PM
Hey bobbyb welcome!
There's a thread to what you say that makes total sense ie if you have a certain taste your choices are spot on and consistent. I like Elephant for doing right by the subject and actually love the casting of The Departed (Farmiga, Wahlburg, Baldwin, Sheen, Winstone) but think Scorcese is a hack these days.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: bobbyb on October 27, 2010, 03:37:52 PM
6. Elephant - I suppose that I respect this one to an extent, but this film just made me feel empty for some reason. I don't go to the movies to feel empty.

So you thought it worked?

Yah, I get what you're saying. Elephant is kind of a tough one for me because I really didn't enjoy it at all, but at the same time it obviously wasn't meant to be particularly enjoyable. I guess I just didn't feel that watching it enhanced my life in any way, yet I will acknowledge the fact that calling it a bad movie would be ignorant on my part.



I agree with the Departed comments.  Everything else though (namely the Die Hard and Lawrence of Arabia comments) shake me to the bone.  Welcome to the boards.

Thanks man. Admittedly, it has been like ten years since I last saw Arabia so I should probably watch it again. Die Hard I stand by my opinion though ;)

Hey bobbyb welcome!
There's a thread to what you say that makes total sense ie if you have a certain taste your choices are spot on and consistent. I like Elephant for doing right by the subject and actually love the casting of The Departed (Farmiga, Wahlburg, Baldwin, Sheen, Winstone) but think Scorcese is a hack these days.

I usually like all of the actors in The Departed too and I think they handle their parts just fine, but I just didn't think that the characters they played, nor the plotline, were at all interesting.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: CSSCHNEIDER on October 27, 2010, 04:48:39 PM
I also love the your avatar.  Better off Dead is awesome!
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Beavermoose on October 28, 2010, 02:13:36 AM
Speaking of Die Hard... Wait maybe I should redirect you to THE POLL. ::)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 28, 2010, 10:49:58 AM
bobbyb, two words- Infernal Affairs
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Adrienne on October 28, 2010, 10:52:28 AM
bobbyb, two words- Infernal Affairs
Three more words: yes yes yes
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: bobbyb on October 28, 2010, 02:54:29 PM
bobbyb, two words- Infernal Affairs

I thought about seeing that one but from what I've heard, the storyline, script and dialogue are pretty much the same, and that's exactly what I didn't like about the movie. If the acting was the problem, then I could see the logic in trying out a different take on the film. I guess that it's really a question as to whether or not Lau and Mak's direction is that much different than Scorsese's, since the direction is another semi-weak link against The Departed for me.

What do you think? If I didn't like The Departed for all of those reasons, is Infernal Affairs still worth checking out?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: verbALs on October 28, 2010, 03:06:20 PM
Infernal Affairs is quiet and paced much better, less bombastic, cooler. You will recognise plots points but it feels completely different. The main thing is Tony Leung and Andy Lau kick DiCaprio and Damon's butts in the lead roles. There is an early scene in an audio shop between the two that The Departed wishes it had in it.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 28, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
Infernal Affairs is quiet and paced much better, less bombastic, cooler. You will recognise plots points but it feels completely different. The main thing is Tony Leung and Andy Lau kick DiCaprio and Damon's butts in the lead roles. There is an early scene in an audio shop between the two that The Departed wishes it had in it.

This, plus IA is all about the deception and the psychology of its two leads and their situation. It's much more dense and complicated that The Departed, which is just shallow and not well made.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: bobbyb on October 28, 2010, 05:49:13 PM
Infernal Affairs is quiet and paced much better, less bombastic, cooler. You will recognise plots points but it feels completely different. The main thing is Tony Leung and Andy Lau kick DiCaprio and Damon's butts in the lead roles. There is an early scene in an audio shop between the two that The Departed wishes it had in it.

This, plus IA is all about the deception and the psychology of its two leads and their situation. It's much more dense and complicated that The Departed, which is just shallow and not well made.

Interesting. Yah, I think that I'll definitely have to check it out now. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: chardy999 on October 29, 2010, 12:18:17 PM
They are both brilliant.

A personal preference for some scenes in The Departed swings it deep into my top films.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: corey.hiscocks on November 02, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
Here's a few I get crap for not liking a lot...

Forrest Gump [the best way I know to describe it is this: I consider Forrest Gump the Everybody Loves Raymond of film]
Raging Bull
Requiem for a Dream [I'm always shocked to see this ranked higher than The Fountain]
Star Wars [pretty much all of them save The Empire Strikes Back]
Donnie Darko
Mystic River [Sean Penn may have killed this thing, but Linney certainly buried it.]
The Sixth Sense
The Godfather [Part II blows it out of the water, I think]

And although I don't think it's terribly overrated, hearing people call Saving Private Ryan a better film than The Thin Red Line is outrageous to me...
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: oneaprilday on November 03, 2010, 11:46:15 AM
Here's a few I get crap for not liking a lot...

Mystic River [Sean Penn may have killed this thing, but Linney certainly buried it.]
You won't get any crap from me on this one. :) But I blame Eastwood more than Penn and Linney.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on November 03, 2010, 11:50:13 AM
Forrest Gump
Requiem for a Dream
Mystic River

I don't like these, either.

Raging Bull
Star Wars
Donnie Darko
The Sixth Sense
The Godfather

These are all okay-to-good, but I feel comfortable calling them overrated.

And although I don't think it's terribly overrated, hearing people call Saving Private Ryan a better film than The Thin Red Line is outrageous to me...

Likewise.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on November 03, 2010, 05:10:01 PM
Requiem for a Dream [I'm always shocked to see this ranked higher than The Fountain]

It's because The Fountain is incomprehensible, boring garbage.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on November 03, 2010, 05:12:21 PM
Requiem for a Dream [I'm always shocked to see this ranked higher than The Fountain]

It's because The Fountain is incomprehensible, boring garbage.

I'm pretty sure that applies to all pre-Wrestler Aronofsky films.   :)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on November 03, 2010, 05:17:03 PM
Requiem for a Dream [I'm always shocked to see this ranked higher than The Fountain]

It's because The Fountain is incomprehensible, boring garbage.

I'm pretty sure that applies to all pre-Wrestler Aronofsky films.   :)

No . . . it's just that one.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 03, 2010, 05:19:49 PM
Aww, I love magical trees.  :(
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Harbinger of Duh on November 04, 2010, 03:14:03 AM
Wow, I'm surprised to see so much "2001" hate around here. Whenever I tell people that I think Emperor Kubrick isn't wearing any clothes -- at least when it comes to that film -- they look at me like I'm insane. Honestly, though, aside from the HAL business and a few arresting visual moments, "2001" strikes me as the epitome of boring, pretentious art-film wankery. If it weren't for the accompanying music, the giant space fetus at the end would elicit more guffaws than anything from the Star Wars prequels.

Others:

The Thin Red Line - actually, THIS is the epitome of boring, pretentious art-film wankery.
Donnie Darko - I'd probably slap this with the BPAFW label too, but the creepy bunny is at least some fun.
The Searchers - I've never been able to get interested in the folksy, sanitized Westerns of the John Ford era. This one gets extra demerits for trying to say something serious and failing. When you cast artificially tanned white people as Native Americans instead of, you know, ACTUAL NATIVE AMERICANS, your condemnations of racism tend to ring rather hollow.
Superman - hasn't aged well.
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves - ditto.
Primer - I can appreciate what they were trying to do, but this is that rare instance of a low budget seriously hampering my enjoyment of the film.
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - All I can say is, I want to slug Ferris Bueller right in his smirky, platitude-spewing mouth.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Mike Shutt on November 04, 2010, 07:05:48 AM
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - All I can say is, I want to slug Ferris Bueller right in his smirky, platitude-spewing mouth.

Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa......what?!?!?
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: MartinTeller on November 04, 2010, 08:02:34 AM
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - All I can say is, I want to slug Ferris Bueller right in his smirky, platitude-spewing mouth.

Your condemnations of 2001 and TTRL are unfortunate (as is your use of the word "pretentious") but at least we can agree on this.  FB is pretty much a terrible person.

I always liked this analysis (http://chud.com/articles/articles/14372/1/YOU-GOT-IT-ALL-WRONG-DAY-THIRTEEN/Page1.html).
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 04, 2010, 12:54:35 PM
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves - ditto.

Wha? Having just watched that film last year for the Disney Marathion, it's aged beautifully. Not only is the animation still top notch, and the idea of presenting an archetype character still works perfectly.

Ferris Bueller's Day Off - All I can say is, I want to slug Ferris Bueller right in his smirky, platitude-spewing mouth.

Your condemnations of 2001 and TTRL are unfortunate (as is your use of the word "pretentious") but at least we can agree on this.  FB is pretty much a terrible person.

But he's still fun to watch from a distance through a movie screen, which is pretty much the whole point of the character.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Harbinger of Duh on November 05, 2010, 11:16:34 AM
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves - ditto.

Wha? Having just watched that film last year for the Disney Marathion, it's aged beautifully. Not only is the animation still top notch, and the idea of presenting an archetype character still works perfectly.

Eh, might just be a matter of taste. It's the voice acting that really gets to me in Snow White, particularly Snow White herself. Ugh, she is just so mannered and cloying. As for the animation, I don't think it's a patch on something like Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella, but again, that might just be taste.

Ferris Bueller's Day Off - All I can say is, I want to slug Ferris Bueller right in his smirky, platitude-spewing mouth.

But he's still fun to watch from a distance through a movie screen, which is pretty much the whole point of the character.

You're right that it is the whole point of the character, which is why the movie just doesn't work for me. Ferris Bueller is NOT fun for me to watch, because the entire time I'm thinking about all the people he's taking advantage of just to get his "escape" from the horrors of being a privileged white kid. The only reason it's possible to see Ferris as anything other than a jerk is because Hughes stacks the deck so mercilessly against his other characters: the best friend is a pitiful wuss, the sister is a sour-faced killjoy, the principal is a creepy, pratfalling bureaucrat, etc. etc.

I'd rather read "Calvin and Hobbes": at least Bill Watterson occasionally acknowledges the inherent selfishness of Calvin's quest to escape the dullness of everyday life to have fun all the time.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on November 05, 2010, 12:53:49 PM
The trick with Ferris Beuller is to pay attention to how other react to him. Think about Cameron as the main character, with the other characters supporting and Ferris as some force like the Joker or the shark from Jaws and you might realize the film is actually a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on November 05, 2010, 01:46:23 PM
Yea, Bueller is an idea, not a real person.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: FroHam X on November 05, 2010, 01:49:40 PM
Yea, Bueller is an idea, not a real person.

He's all in Cameron's head. Bueller is Durden.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: mañana on November 05, 2010, 01:55:57 PM
I'm with Harbinger, Bueller repels me.
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: Bill Thompson on November 05, 2010, 01:58:39 PM
I'm with Harbinger, Bueller repels me.

You repel me, kind sir. You repel me.  ;)
Title: Re: Confession Time: Bottom 10 Films Others Love
Post by: dallegre on November 05, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
The trick with Ferris Beuller is to pay attention to how other react to him. Think about Cameron as the main character, with the other characters supporting and Ferris as some force like the Joker or the shark from Jaws and you might realize the film is actually a masterpiece.

I don't know about the Bueler-as-Durden theory, but I always found Cameron to be the much more likable, identifiable, and interesting character.