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Title: Sokurov, Aleksandr
Post by: MartinTeller on October 27, 2010, 02:18:18 PM
1. Mother and Son
2. Aleksandra
3. Russian Ark



Based on the stunning beauty of Mother and Son, I'd like to see more.  But I was pretty bored with Russian Ark and found the gimmick tiresome after about 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Director's Best: Aleksandr Sokurov
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 27, 2010, 02:19:57 PM
Haven't seen any
Title: Re: Director's Best: Aleksandr Sokurov
Post by: pixote on October 27, 2010, 02:44:46 PM
I was totally bored with Russian Ark as well. And I'm pretty sure I fell asleep during The Second Circle, which is a shame, because I'm guessing that film is pretty great.

pixote
Title: Re: Director's Best: Aleksandr Sokurov
Post by: sdedalus on October 27, 2010, 02:49:12 PM
I really liked Russian Ark, that's the only one I've seen.
Title: Re: Director's Best: Aleksandr Sokurov
Post by: íKeith! on October 28, 2010, 04:10:09 PM
I really liked Russian Ark, that's the only one I've seen.
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: FifthCityMuse on October 28, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
Saw Days of the Eclipse, but found it pretty trying. Seen half of Russian Ark, but gave up. Kinda keen to see more, but he's not high on the list.
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: zarodinu on October 28, 2010, 09:10:24 PM
I am sorry guys but you need to be Russian to truly understand how awful this "director" is.  All the actors mumble and talk over each other so you can only pick up snippets of conversation, the subtitles make the dialogue clearer by picking and choosing what to translate and by liberating it from the background noise.  Russian is a very tough language, but you should all learn it just to appreciate the awfulness of these films.
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: MartinTeller on October 28, 2010, 09:26:27 PM
I am sorry guys but you need to be Russian to truly understand how awful this "director" is.  All the actors mumble and talk over each other so you can only pick up snippets of conversation, the subtitles make the dialogue clearer by picking and choosing what to translate and by liberating it from the background noise.  Russian is a very tough language, but you should all learn it just to appreciate the awfulness of these films.

My mother is a professional Russian translator.  She loved Mother and Son almost as much as I did.  She didn't care much for Russian Ark (like myself) but she did have this to say about the language:

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Russians were so big on authority at the time that they had a special vocabulary of subservience--a vocabulary that was fairly elaborate and structured.  It is very much in use in this movie.

Some say that this obsequious language came into being during the long period when Russia was "under the Mongol yoke." This movie, made after the disintegration of the Soviet Union, made me realize that some changes brought about by communism may have been improvements.

Anyone interested in brushing up on spoken Russian would do well to watch this film, for all its faults.  There is no dialogue to speak of--just slow-paced narration in standard Russian.
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: sdedalus on October 28, 2010, 09:31:52 PM
I am sorry guys but you need to be Russian to truly understand how awful this "director" is.  All the actors mumble and talk over each other so you can only pick up snippets of conversation, the subtitles make the dialogue clearer by picking and choosing what to translate and by liberating it from the background noise.  Russian is a very tough language, but you should all learn it just to appreciate the awfulness of these films.

Sounds like Robert Altman. . . .
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: Bill Thompson on October 28, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
I am sorry guys but you need to be Russian to truly understand how awful this "director" is.  All the actors mumble and talk over each other so you can only pick up snippets of conversation, the subtitles make the dialogue clearer by picking and choosing what to translate and by liberating it from the background noise.  Russian is a very tough language, but you should all learn it just to appreciate the awfulness of these films.

Sounds like Robert Altman. . . .

Good to know I should avoid this guy then...
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: Totoro on May 18, 2013, 02:38:47 AM
Russian Ark (B)
Faust (B)

Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr
Post by: 1SO on February 25, 2015, 01:14:15 PM
1. Faust
2. Mother and Son
3. Russian Ark
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr - Director's Best
Post by: DarkeningHumour on May 11, 2015, 08:56:34 AM
Oh hey, I actually know this one !

Faust all the way. The movie is gorgeous, even if what is going on screen flies right by you. Which, you know, it didn't for me...not completely I mean...I mean I understood some things...I think...
Title: Re: Sokurov, Aleksandr
Post by: valmz on May 16, 2015, 05:02:55 PM
Among the most distinct, diverse, and idiosyncratic that I've ever encountered. Creates films as if from another dimension. The second time I watched Mother and Son it went from something I didn't connect with at all to one of the most important films I'd ever seen. This is a wavelength I want to be on, however impossible it may seem.

Days of Eclipse
Mother and Son
The Second Circle
Whispering Pages
Mournful Unconcern
The Lonely Human Voice
Moloch
Father and Son
Russian Ark
Mariya
Elegy of a Voyage