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Title: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: worm@work on December 12, 2010, 12:38:23 PM
Here's your space to dish on the directors countdown as it happens!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: roujin on December 12, 2010, 12:44:08 PM
Who's wagering on Jerry Lewis at #1?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 12, 2010, 01:36:01 PM
A bit disappointed to see someone with only 2 films (Lynne Ramsay) in the list, and they are higher than Peter Weir who has at least 3 great films. Otherwise the list is looking great.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: sdedalus on December 12, 2010, 03:47:34 PM
What's the rationale behind the bolded titles?

Sorry I didn't get a list in.  Just ran out of time.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on December 12, 2010, 04:21:38 PM
What's the rationale behind the bolded titles?

I was wondering this as well.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Verite on December 12, 2010, 04:41:38 PM
Love that less iconic screenshots (or screenshots from the comparatively lesser known films) are being chosen for many of the entries.  The One from the Heart screenshot made my day!  Kudos for going with The School of Rock and Me and Orson Welles as well.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Clovis8 on December 12, 2010, 04:43:48 PM
I didnt get a list in either but the groups list looks great. Awesome work W@W and everyone.

I am kinda bummed Wong Kar-wai didn't make the cut though. :(
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Verite on December 12, 2010, 04:49:21 PM
Great job, w@w and rouj.  Beautiful presentation, too.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: FroHam X on December 12, 2010, 04:50:23 PM
Worm and rouj are tres awesome. You guys did an excellent job. And roujin managed to temper his douchiness, how bout that?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bondo on December 12, 2010, 04:51:16 PM
@Clovis: Wong Kar-Wai is on the list...

Anyway, for the most part the directors I would have expected to make it made it...my list had enough new/obscure filmmakers that I wasn't expecting most of them to. Still a bit bummed that some like Koreeda and the Kims didn't sneak in.

I've got 8 directors I need to watch a first film from.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Pratters on December 12, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
I like the list. A lot of new directors in there.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Clovis8 on December 12, 2010, 04:52:16 PM
@Clovis: Wong Kar-Wai is on the list...


Oh doh! I must have missed him.  ???
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Emiliana on December 12, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
I didnt get a list in either but the groups list looks great. Awesome work W@W and everyone.

This, exactly. Maybe I could have helped to put Kieszlowski, Almodovar and Powell & Pressburger a spot or two higher (They would have been my top 3; not sure in which order, though), but this list is pretty awesome as it is.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: worm@work on December 12, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
What's the rationale behind the bolded titles?

I was wondering this as well.

Well, it's our highly subjective take on the directors' most interesting films or films that we really would like more people to watch. Sometimes it's just films that we're most excited to catch up on. Mostly, it's just us having some fun with the list :).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: 1SO on December 12, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
Missing in Action...

Alain Resnais
Andrei Tarkovsky
Bela Tarr
Bernardo Bertolucci
Don Siegel
Elia Kazan
Errol Morris
George Roy Hill
John Sayles
Joseph L. Mankiewicz
Lars Von Trier
Leo McCarey
Mike Nichols
Nicolas Roeg
Otto Preminger
Raoul Walsh
Robert Zemeckis
Sergi Eisenstein
Todd Haynes


This is probably my favorite of the Top 100s that we do.  A major Thank You to everyone who helped make it happen.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: toro913 on December 12, 2010, 05:25:33 PM
can we get a spreadsheet of the whole event
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: worm@work on December 12, 2010, 05:34:30 PM
can we get a spreadsheet of the whole event
.

Here (http://www.zshare.net/download/83831661cc0bbe95/) you go :). I also posted a link at the top of the countdown thread.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: mañana on December 12, 2010, 06:15:08 PM
Big thanks to roujin and worm!!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Mike Shutt on December 12, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Big thanks to roujin and worm!!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: jbissell on December 12, 2010, 06:25:33 PM
A pretty good list overall, though I didn't really focus on specific rankings, more on the names that made it.

Thanks to worm/roujin
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Tim on December 12, 2010, 06:41:18 PM
Zhangke Jia, Bela Tarr and Hal Hartley were all tied on 100!!!!! (with a ranking difference of only 0.25%!!!!!!)

If only I put Bela Tarr in #1 instead of #2 he would have been the clear #100......


great to see the whole list - it looks very good

Thanks worm and roujin
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Tim on December 12, 2010, 07:45:40 PM
A bit disappointed to see someone with only 2 films (Lynne Ramsay) in the list, and they are higher than Peter Weir who has at least 3 great films. Otherwise the list is looking great.

not to be unaustralian, however I think both of Lynne Ramsay's films are better than any of Peter Weir's (although I haven't seen Master and Commander - I hear it is fairly good). Her trajectory (if she keeps it up) will eclipse a lot of other directors. Same with Rian Johnson he just has two movies to his name so far, however, he also has that high trajectory. Time will tell.......Malick got #20 with only 4 films - which I think everyone (except flieger and roujin probably ;) ) will agree he deserves to rank high on.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: FroHam X on December 12, 2010, 07:49:17 PM
How can either of her films be better than The Truman Show? I just don't see how that's possible. Very few films can claim to be better than The Truman Show.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: zarodinu on December 12, 2010, 07:50:10 PM
Is there anywhere I can see a quick list of the winner 1-100 without looking through several pages?
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Tim on December 12, 2010, 07:51:41 PM
@zarodinu - download the spreadsheet from:


Here (http://www.zshare.net/download/83831661cc0bbe95/) you go :)


but remember the pics and quotes in the forum though make the list a LOT more fun!!!!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Tim on December 12, 2010, 07:56:44 PM
How can either of her films be better than The Truman Show? I just don't see how that's possible. Very few films can claim to be better than The Truman Show.

you are talking about a film starring Laura Linney "the age-appropriate character delivery device” and Jim Carrey the biggest over-actor in hollywood........

 ;D

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: zarodinu on December 12, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
I love looking through the countdown, good job to all, I just like to have a handy dandy copy there.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Verite on December 12, 2010, 08:18:06 PM
One day I'll see y'all Olmi skeptics and nonbelievers on the road to Damascus.  I think this board is pretty weird (i.e. unique) in its lack of Antonioni fans (I'm not really one; I do love L'eclisse though) compared to other film crowds who are pretty familiar with the Criterion Collection.  Glad that Bahrani appeared on 4 lists.  Damn, I keep on forgetting about Gondry who should've been on my ballot.  Props to the other person who voted for Norstein.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: zarodinu on December 12, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
Top 5 10 should have made it

10. Wajda  (Kanal) - Great Polish director that will be big if people give him a chance.
9.  Kim Ji-Woon (Tale of Two Sisters) - Deserved more than just my vote, why Bondo?
8.  Kobayashi (Harakiri) - Amazing Japanese director, hopefully will make the next one.  
7.  Clouzot (Wages of Fear) - Sad to see I was alone in voting for him, every bit as good as Renoir.
6.  Rossellini (Rome Open City) - Deserved Fellini's spot, best Italian neorealist.
5.  Babenco (Pixote) - A director that deserves better than the scraps you people throw at him.
4.  Moodyson (F*cking Amal) - Deserves more love than just my own (thought you guys liked Amal).
3.  Guy Maddin (My Winnipeg) - Apparently all the Canadians here hate their country.
2.  Errol Morris  (Fog of War) - Unforgivable.
1.  Tarkovsky (Stalker) - No words, you are all dead to me
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Clovis8 on December 12, 2010, 09:01:12 PM
How can either of her films be better than The Truman Show? I just don't see how that's possible. Very few films can claim to be better than The Truman Show.

you are talking about a film starring Laura Linney "the age-appropriate character delivery device” and Jim Carrey the biggest over-actor in hollywood........

 ;D



Both Ramsey's film are far better than the Truman Show.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bondo on December 12, 2010, 09:10:35 PM
9.  Kim Ji-Woon (Tale of Two Sisters) - Deserved more than just my vote, why Bondo?
4.  Moodyson (F*cking Amal) - Deserves more love than just my own (thought you guys liked Amal).

I love Amal, but neither of Moodyson's other films have done anything special so he didn't make my list.

As to Kim Ji-Woon, I thought I had voted for him. Just checked my ballot (sent back in September) and I didn't. Guess I should have sent in my updated list after all (where he's 30th). I put it together yesterday but looked it over and didn't think things were so different that I would bother w@w with it. Kim Ki-Duk was 20 places higher on my updated list too, so that might have bumped him into the last few spots on the list, probably the only one that my not sending in the new list could have made a difference on.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: FroHam X on December 12, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
Both Ramsey's film are far better than the Truman Show.

I havent seen either film but there is no way this is true. Just no way. They'd literally need to be two of the very best films ever made.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: 1SO on December 12, 2010, 09:49:42 PM
Both Ramsey's film are far better than the Truman Show.

So glad I haven't mailed out your Christmas card yet.  This is more inexplicable to me than anything Bondo or FLY ever posted.


Top 5 10 should have made it
9.  Kim Ji-Woon (Tale of Two Sisters) - One of my favorites working today, not All Time.  But certainly better than Bong Joon-ho

5.  Babenco (Pixote) - A director that deserves better than the scraps you people throw at him.
Agree.  As soon as I get my hands on the DVD, it's on!

4.  Moodyson (F*cking Amal) - Deserves more love than just my own (thought you guys liked Amal).
3.  Guy Maddin (My Winnipeg) - Apparently all the Canadians here hate their country.
2.  Errol Morris  (Fog of War) - Unforgivable.
Three directors I don't love as much as the rest of you, but I expected to see them because of all the love on the boards.

1.  Tarkovsky (Stalker) - I didn't like him until Stalker.  Then he made my ballot.  So I ain't dead yet.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bondo on December 12, 2010, 10:06:44 PM
This is more inexplicable to me than anything Bondo or FLY ever posted.

Hey, what did I do? :D

I don't think I have a general trait of liking "bad" films and have a pretty consistent set of preferences that match when I don't like "great" films. I'm not just contrarian.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: sdedalus on December 12, 2010, 10:20:03 PM
One day I'll see y'all Olmi skeptics and nonbelievers on the road to Damascus.  I think this board is pretty weird (i.e. unique) in its lack of Antonioni fans (I'm not really one; I do love L'eclisse though) compared to other film crowds who are pretty familiar with the Criterion Collection.  Glad that Bahrani appeared on 4 lists.  Damn, I keep on forgetting about Gondry who should've been on my ballot.  Props to the other person who voted for Norstein.

I'm pretty sure I would have voted for Antonioni.

You know, had I managed to come up with a list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Verite on December 12, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
You, Emiliana, et al should've just turned in a Top 5 respectively, at least.  I think I'm warming up to Antonioni again.  I have to be in a certain place to vibe with his films.  He directs some incredible performances, for sure.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: sdedalus on December 12, 2010, 10:51:08 PM
I actually thought today was the deadline and was going to do it this afternoon.  Then I saw they were halfway through with the countdown.  Next year!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: michael x on December 12, 2010, 10:51:34 PM
The list looks great; nice work.

I wanted to vote for Antonioni, but I still haven't gotten around to seeing anything since L'avventura.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: worm@work on December 13, 2010, 01:48:42 AM
re: Antonioni & Olmi

The only reason I didn't vote for them is that I've only watched one film each by them. Otoh, both of those films are in my Top 100. I should really watch more movies by both of them this coming year.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: worm@work on December 13, 2010, 02:55:18 AM
Is there anywhere I can see a quick list of the winner 1-100 without looking through several pages?
There's also an index (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9446.msg547706#msg547706) up top now.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Tim on December 13, 2010, 04:43:15 AM
Indeed!!!!!!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on December 13, 2010, 07:43:52 AM
Great looking list worm, rouj.

Did anyone else get to the end of page four and fail to guess the last remaining director?

I'm going to grab a coffee and spend some time reading the quotes and jotting down titles of interest.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: roujin on December 13, 2010, 08:34:25 AM
I'm going to grab a coffee and spend some time reading the quotes and jotting down titles of interest.

I just did this. Went through all the filmographies and wrote down whatever movie of theirs I would watch next.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Sam the Cinema Snob on December 13, 2010, 09:00:03 AM
I quit reading after Clint Eastwood.  :-\

Then I just searched to see where Malick and Kieslowski fell.



Thanks for putting the list together, Worm. Sorry I didn't get a ballot in. Was busy doing finals.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: ses on December 13, 2010, 09:24:27 AM
Great job worm and roujin, thanks for all your hard work.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: oldkid on December 13, 2010, 09:34:54 AM
Big thanks to roujin and worm!!

You guys did a great job on the list and the chat was a lot of fun, as much as I was able to participate.  Great work!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bondo on December 13, 2010, 09:41:05 AM
I quit reading after Clint Eastwood.  :-\

Don't worry Sam, I represented you in the chat room by asking "who is still putting Clint Eastwood on their ballot?"
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: jbissell on December 13, 2010, 09:50:27 AM
One day I'll see y'all Olmi skeptics and nonbelievers on the road to Damascus.

I'm a true believer! He was #28 on my list. (I forgot I haven't posted my list yet, will do that tonight)

As for Antonioni, I've only seen Blow-Up, which I mostly liked.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 13, 2010, 12:15:31 PM
I quit reading after Clint Eastwood.  :-\

Don't worry Sam, I represented you in the chat room by asking "who is still putting Clint Eastwood on their ballot?"

I did and I stand by it. His has his weaknesses, but he has directed some great films.

Edit: more here (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3829.msg548094#msg548094)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 13, 2010, 12:28:55 PM
How can either of her films be better than The Truman Show? I just don't see how that's possible. Very few films can claim to be better than The Truman Show.

you are talking about a film starring Laura Linney "the age-appropriate character delivery device” and Jim Carrey the biggest over-actor in hollywood........

 ;D



Both Ramsey's film are far better than the Truman Show.

I will take:

Gallipoli (1981)
Dead Poets Society (1989)

Over Movern Callar, or for that matter either of Rian Johnson's films. The power of Gallipoli and Dead Poets Society to move the viewer, alone, provides, for me, enough evidence. So while Movern Callar and Brick are interesting, I would compare them will Picnic at Hanging Rock. The Brothers Bloom is more polished and shows Rian Johnson has great promise, but for me I need to see more before being convinced.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: 'Noke on December 13, 2010, 12:37:42 PM
How can either of her films be better than The Truman Show? I just don't see how that's possible. Very few films can claim to be better than The Truman Show.

you are talking about a film starring Laura Linney "the age-appropriate character delivery device” and Jim Carrey the biggest over-actor in hollywood........

 ;D



Both Ramsey's film are far better than the Truman Show.

I will take:

Gallipoli (1981)
Dead Poets Society (1989)

Over Movern Callar, or for that matter either of Rian Johnson's films. The power of Gallipoli and Dead Poets Society to move the viewer, alone, provides, for me, enough evidence. So while Movern Callar and Brick are interesting, I would compare them will Picnic at Hanging Rock. The Brothers Bloom is more polished and shows Rian Johnson has great promise, but for me I need to see more before being convinced.

I think it all ends up being totally subjective. I think the images, so stark and beautiful, that Ramsay is able to capture, and the storytelling through the camera, is so much more powerful then Gallipolli or the Truman Show, with those being two great movies, Truman Show being one of my favourites. But, I can see how the other way could be argued.

In  the same way, I'd say Birck is more powerful through imagery and the little detials then Weir's work, but not by a lot. They are all fantastic films by wonderful directors. Arguing is silly.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on December 13, 2010, 12:44:57 PM
I'm going to grab a coffee and spend some time reading the quotes and jotting down titles of interest.

#100 to 91

Jia Zhang-Ke - The World (most appealling)
Satioshi Kon - Tokyo Godfathers (need to revisit)
MIchael Curtiz - Sea Hawk/Robin Hood (one for a marathon, the other because of its reputation)
Michael Weir - The Mosquito Coast, Fearless (the ones I haven’t seen)
Edward Yang - I wasn’t sure which one I’d like
Lynn Ramsay - Would I like Movern Callar? The trailer looks... okay.
Preston Sturges - I’m going to pass on Stuges for now.
John Carpenter - Halloween, Escape from New York / L.A. (these look fun)
Kevin Smith - Mallrats
Agnes Varda - The Gleaners and I (no trailer... but it looks like a movie where you get to watch people work... which is always kind of interesting).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Melvil on December 13, 2010, 12:47:25 PM
Woohoo! Awesome work worm! I love the list (and presentation). Makes me excited to check out more from the ones I'm not very familiar with.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Dave the Necrobumper on December 13, 2010, 12:53:46 PM
How can either of her films be better than The Truman Show? I just don't see how that's possible. Very few films can claim to be better than The Truman Show.

you are talking about a film starring Laura Linney "the age-appropriate character delivery device” and Jim Carrey the biggest over-actor in hollywood........

 ;D



Both Ramsey's film are far better than the Truman Show.

I will take:

Gallipoli (1981)
Dead Poets Society (1989)

Over Movern Callar, or for that matter either of Rian Johnson's films. The power of Gallipoli and Dead Poets Society to move the viewer, alone, provides, for me, enough evidence. So while Movern Callar and Brick are interesting, I would compare them will Picnic at Hanging Rock. The Brothers Bloom is more polished and shows Rian Johnson has great promise, but for me I need to see more before being convinced.

I think it all ends up being totally subjective. I think the images, so stark and beautiful, that Ramsay is able to capture, and the storytelling through the camera, is so much more powerful then Gallipolli or the Truman Show, with those being two great movies, Truman Show being one of my favourites. But, I can see how the other way could be argued.

In  the same way, I'd say Birck is more powerful through imagery and the little detials then Weir's work, but not by a lot. They are all fantastic films by wonderful directors. Arguing is silly.

Yes it does all come down to personal taste, but discussing/arguing is not all that silly. In the end I have trouble with seeing directors with so little output in the list, which is personal.

Also many thanks to Worm@Work and Roujin for the great work.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: 'Noke on December 13, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
I guess so.

Thanks worm and Rouj!! A wonderful job by both of you!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: THATguy on December 13, 2010, 01:10:51 PM
Usually I can find a lot that I disagree with in these community lists.  I love doing them, but the results here, there's not a lot to whine about, so that makes these pretty great.  A few people I feel are underrated, a few that fell I still kind of feel are overrated, but in all, I'm pretty damn pleased.

Thanks to w@w and rouj!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on December 13, 2010, 01:32:31 PM
Thanks for all the hard work guys!

Random thoughts:

* I had Olmi at #30 and Antonioni at #59.

* As people do marathons and such to further investigate these directors, I hope they will update their entries in the "Director's Best" threads.  I may throw together a list of the top 100 with links to their respective threads.

* I'm very pleased that Satyajit Ray (my #2) made it, hopefully next year he'll rank higher.

* Some rankings are surprisingly low.  Besides Satyajit Ray, Bunuel (75), Bresson (76), and Mizoguchi (87) are jumping out at me.

* Picks from my top 30 that didn't make it:
#09 Ming-liang Tsai
#11 Bela Tarr
#12 Ritwik Ghatak
#13 Aki Kaurismaki
#14 Emir Kusturica
#23 Roy Andersson
#24 Anh Hung Tran
#26 Jacques Tati
#27 Alain Resnais
#29 Kon Ichikawa
#30 Ermanno Olmi

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: sdedalus on December 13, 2010, 02:11:58 PM
I would have voted for Tati, Resnais and Tsai, in that order.

Ray's a victim of the DVD industry, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on December 13, 2010, 02:22:49 PM
Here's the list with links to the polls:

Hitchcock, Alfred (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3313.0)
Kurosawa, Akira (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3999.0)
Coen, Ethan and Joel (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3717.0)
Kubrick, Stanley (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4349.0)
Leone, Sergio (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3548.0)
Wilder, Billy (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3356.0)
Miyazaki, Hayao (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5302.0)
Tarantino, Quentin (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=7197.0)
Herzog, Werner (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3936.0)
Scorsese, Martin (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3361.0)
Wong, Kar-Wai (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5543.0)
Coppola, Francis Ford (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3353.0)
Nolan, Christopher (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3603.0)
Spielberg, Steven (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3341.0)
Bergman, Ingmar (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8960.0)
Welles, Orson (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3389.0)
Anderson, Paul Thomas (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5551.0)
Kieslowski, Krzysztof (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9023.0)
Lynch, David (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3452.0)
Malick, Terence (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3374.0)
Almodovar. Pedro (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5534.0)
Anderson, Wes (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3684.0)
Allen, Woody (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3329.0)
Powell, Michael & Emeric Pressburger (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3693.0)
Chaplin, Charles (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9008.0)
Boyle, Danny (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5305.0)
Fincher, David (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3859.0)
Lumet, Sidney (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9040.0)
Hawks, Howard (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9020.0)
Ford, John (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9031.0)
van Sant, Gus (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4555.25)
Soderbergh, Steven (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3378.0)
Lean, David (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4427.0)
Hou, Hsiao-Hsien (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3941.0)
Truffaut, Francois (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3942.0)
Godard, Jean-Luc (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3949.0)
Denis, Claire (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9453.0)
Fellini, Federico (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3336.0)
Capra, Frank (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9005.0)
Park, Chan-wook (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4589.0)
Mann, Michael (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=5566.0)
Gondry, Michel (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3894.0)
Murnau, FW (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4553.0)
Cameron, James (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3530.0)
Wiseman, Frederick (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9198.0)
Polanski, Roman (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9051.0)
Renoir, Jean (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4464.0)
Ray, Nicholas (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9062.0)
Gilliam, Terry (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3878.0)
Weerasethakul, Apichatpong (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9094.0)
Melville, Jean-Pierre (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4332.0)
Altman, Robert (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8997.0)
Eastwood, Clint (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3829.0)
Keaton, Buster (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9024.0)
Lang, Fritz (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9038.0)
Cronenberg, David (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3636.0)
Scott, Ridley (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3459.0)
Ozu, Yasujiro (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9049.0)
Sirk, Douglas (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8580.0)
del Toro, Guillermo (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3825.0)
Aronofsky, Darren (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4436.0)
Leigh, Mike (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4105.0)
Forman, Milos (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9014.0)
Cuaron, Alfonso (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3815.0)
Bong, Joon-ho (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9299.0)
Jeunet, Jean-Pierre (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4592.0)
Huston, John (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9021.0)
Dardenne, Jean-Pierre and Luc (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3819.0)
Lee, Ang (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3351.0)
Linklater, Richard (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4735.0)
Wright, Edgar (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8629.0)
Jonze, Spike (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9006.0)
Jackson, Peter (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3969.0)
Stanton, Andrew (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4505.0)
Bunuel, Luis (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8961.0)
Bresson, Robert (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4529.0)
Wenders, Wim (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9072.0)
Jarmusch, Jim (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3839.0)
Hughes, John (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9454.0)
Johnson, Rian (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9456.0)
Campion, Jane (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9025.0)
Ray, Satyajit (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=8959.0)
Zhang, Yimou (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4618.0)
Bigelow, Kathryn (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9211.0)
Greenaway, Peter (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9016.0)
Bird, Brad (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3688.0)
Mizoguchi, Kenji (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9048.0)
Maysles, Albert and David (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9055.0)
Lee, Spike (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3564.0)
Reiner, Rob (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9457.0)
Varda, Agnes (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9090.0)
Smith, Kevin (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9378.0)
Carpenter, John (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=3764.0)
Sturges, Preston (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4221.0)
Ramsay, Lynne (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9199.0)
Yang, Edward (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9194.0)
Weir, Peter (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4575.0)
Curtiz, Michael (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9011.0)
Kon, Satoshi (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=4049.0)
Jia, Zhangke (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9458.0)



chesterfilms needs to update a lot of his polls.  Also, some of these could use polls that are structured like the other "Director's Best" threads.  I might throw those together later, but what we have now should suffice.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 13, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
Preston Sturges - I’m going to pass on Stuges for now.

You should give him a go, he writes fantastic dialogue and his movies are always so much fun.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on December 13, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
Preston Sturges - I’m going to pass on Stuges for now.

You should give him a go, he writes fantastic dialogue and his movies are always so much fun.

Doesn't really seem like my style (old) :-\
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 13, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
Preston Sturges - I’m going to pass on Stuges for now.

You should give him a go, he writes fantastic dialogue and his movies are always so much fun.

Doesn't really seem like my style (old) :-\

Well, I know you like QT, and I've been of the mind for a while that QT writes dialogue that he wishes was anywhere near as smart as Sturges', if that does anything for you. I'd say to give The Palm Beach Story a go, it's one of his greats, it's super on the dialogue and it's short, so if you don't like it then it won't take up too much of your time.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Emiliana on December 13, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
@ smirnoff: You asked if we thought you would like Morvern Callar. I have to say no, I honestly don't think you would. It's more meandering, contemplative and mood-oriented than the films you usually go for.

Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: worm@work on December 13, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
Thanks for the linked list, MartinTeller! This is really helpful.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bondo on December 13, 2010, 02:44:33 PM
@Smirnoff: Having seen two of Sturges films I'd say skip it. Sturges does insubstantial witty banter, QT builds his banter into substance.

Also, I'd pass on Morvern, though would recommend Ratcatcher if you haven't seen that and are keen to check out a Ramsey film.

The World is the one Jia I've seen that didn't frustrate me.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bill Thompson on December 13, 2010, 02:52:52 PM
Sturges does insubstantial witty banter, QT builds his banter into substance.

 :D It's awesome that people think that.

The fact that people do think that hurts me, well more makes me wonder about our future as a species, but same thing.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Jared on December 13, 2010, 02:56:46 PM
gah i posted on the topic but never sent the private message. oops. guess I need to pay more attention. Only omissions Im sad about are Reed and Tati (at least I didnt see them on first glance)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on December 13, 2010, 04:09:44 PM
Well, I know you like QT, and I've been of the mind for a while that QT writes dialogue that he wishes was anywhere near as smart as Sturges', if that does anything for you. I'd say to give The Palm Beach Story a go, it's one of his greats, it's super on the dialogue and it's short, so if you don't like it then it won't take up too much of your time.

I'm still very hesitant but If I do get around to Sturges I'll make sure and consider it. Thanks

@ smirnoff: You asked if we thought you would like Morvern Callar. I have to say no, I honestly don't think you would. It's more meandering, contemplative and mood-oriented than the films you usually go for.
Thanks Em. That's exactly what I wanted to know.

@Smirnoff: Having seen two of Sturges films I'd say skip it. Sturges does insubstantial witty banter, QT builds his banter into substance.

Also, I'd pass on Morvern, though would recommend Ratcatcher if you haven't seen that and are keen to check out a Ramsey film.

The World is the one Jia I've seen that didn't frustrate me.

I think I need to buy a copy of the Bondo film guide, since I find we're usually on the same wavelength. Thanks for your thoughts.

Sturges is on the back burner, for now. (It's really just a priority thing, not a ruling out).
Double confirmation on skipping Movern (for now). Done. I'll queue up Ratcatcher (because I am curious and want on the Ramsay-wagon before it's full). ;)
That The World was the most positive experience with Jia you had, and I was already inclined to give it a shot, well, that's promising.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on December 13, 2010, 05:15:50 PM
I've done polls for all the missing directors now and updated the list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Tim on December 13, 2010, 06:02:12 PM

* Picks from my top 30 that didn't make it:

#11 Bela Tarr


If you had put him at #10 instead of #11 he would have made it! So close.......

Next Year!!! ;)




In the mean time I will spend the next 17 week watching Satantango  ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: pixote on December 13, 2010, 06:40:05 PM
I quit reading after Clint Eastwood.  :-\

I smiled to see that neither Mystic River nor Million Dollar Baby appeared on his selected filmography.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: jbissell on December 13, 2010, 06:41:05 PM
I posted my list over in the other thread.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: pixote on December 13, 2010, 06:48:22 PM
chesterfilms needs to update a lot of his polls.  Also, some of these could use polls that are structured like the other "Director's Best" threads.  I might throw those together later, but what we have now should suffice.

If you notice a thread that needs updating, you can just post in it to that effect and I'll get around to it eventually. Unless another one of those mod types beats me to it.

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: pixote on December 13, 2010, 06:53:41 PM
Those new entry directors are fantastic!

Indeed. I've moved The Bucket List, Jersey Girl, K-19: The Widowmaker, and She's Having a Baby to the top of my queue. I'm sure at least one of them is better than Jack.

edit: D'oh, that wasn't meant to sound quite so snarky. Anyway, I'm totally happy to see Fritz Lang and the Maysles on there. Has anybody compiled the list yet of the directors that fell off the list?

pixote
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: roujin on December 13, 2010, 07:04:03 PM
GUY MADDIN (#99)
MIKE NICHOLS (#97)
GEORGE ROMERO (#96)
ISAO TAKAHATA (#93)
SAM PECKINPAH (#86)
ANDREI TARKOVSKY (#86)
MICHAEL MOORE (#80)
PAUL GREENGRASS (#80)
SERGEI EISENSTEIN (#78)
ATOM EGOYAN (#77)
JOHN LASSETER (#76)
OLIVER STONE (#75)
HAL ASHBY (#74)
TODD HAYNES (#68)
TIM BURTON (#67)
ERROL MORRIS (#64)
ALEJANDRO GONZALEZ INARRITU (#64)
CARL THEODOR DREYER (#56)
CHANTAL AKERMAN (#51)
SOFIA COPPOLA (#43)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Antares on December 13, 2010, 07:14:21 PM
Preston Sturges - I’m going to pass on Stuges for now.

You should give him a go, he writes fantastic dialogue and his movies are always so much fun.

Doesn't really seem like my style (old) :-\

Well, I know you like QT, and I've been of the mind for a while that QT writes dialogue that he wishes was anywhere near as smart as Sturges', if that does anything for you. I'd say to give The Palm Beach Story a go, it's one of his greats, it's super on the dialogue and it's short, so if you don't like it then it won't take up too much of your time.

Or try Christmas in July, by the time you finish a bowl of popcorn, it's over.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Beavermoose on December 13, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
Heh, Hitchcock wasn't even on my list.  ::)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Verite on December 14, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
7.  Clouzot (Wages of Fear) - Sad to see I was alone in voting for him, every bit as good as Renoir.

How do you rank and rate his films?

I'd appreciate it if you chime in here (http://www.filmspotting.net/forum/index.php?topic=9026.msg547936#msg547936).  If only to spark/increase interest in Clouzot.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: oneaprilday on December 20, 2010, 06:04:14 PM
A belated but huge thanks to worm and rouj for all your work! And great list, everybody. Ken Loach is the one omission that jumps out at me - would love to see more Filmspotters catching up with his work.


Some directors on the list I am eager to catch up with:
99. Satoshi Kon
91. Agnès Varda
85. Peter Greenaway
82. Satyajit Ray
75. Luis Buñuel
68. The Dardennes
50. Apichatpong Weerasethakul
45. Frederick Wiseman
38. Federico Fellini


One day I'll see y'all Olmi skeptics and nonbelievers on the road to Damascus.  
Olmi will be on my list next year if I Fidanzati is as good as I suspect it will be. I probably ought to have included him on my list though, on the strength of Il Posto (and even Tickets) alone.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: munchin on March 28, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
Impressive list! I'm glad Hitchcock was #1 - he would have been mine for sure. I'm surprised Spike Lee is so low. I wonder if it's a matter of people not having seen many of his films or a matter or him being diminished by some of the awful stuff he's done (Miracle at St. Anna, She Hate Me, Girl 6).
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on March 28, 2011, 10:57:53 AM
Impressive list! I'm glad Hitchcock was #1 - he would have been mine for sure. I'm surprised Spike Lee is so low. I wonder if it's a matter of people not having seen many of his films or a matter or him being diminished by some of the awful stuff he's done (Miracle at St. Anna, She Hate Me, Girl 6).

A little of both for myself. I enjoyed Inside Man and loved 25th Hour but recognize that those two films are kind of departures for him.  I haven't caught up with Do The Right Thing or Malcolm X. And as you say, Miracle at St. Anna was awful.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: munchin on March 28, 2011, 11:23:53 AM
Impressive list! I'm glad Hitchcock was #1 - he would have been mine for sure. I'm surprised Spike Lee is so low. I wonder if it's a matter of people not having seen many of his films or a matter or him being diminished by some of the awful stuff he's done (Miracle at St. Anna, She Hate Me, Girl 6).

A little of both for myself. I enjoyed Inside Man and loved 25th Hour but recognize that those two films are kind of departures for him.  I haven't caught up with Do The Right Thing or Malcolm X. And as you say, Miracle at St. Anna was awful.

Oh you must, you must (like we all don't have 500 movies we need to catch up with...but you must  :D)
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: smirnoff on March 28, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
Oh you must, you must (like we all don't have 500 movies we need to catch up with...but you must  :D)

So true ;D
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: 1SO on March 28, 2011, 11:42:25 AM
Spike Lee has as many great films as horrible ones, so overall I'd say he's capable of being a solid director. On the bright side, stick around so you can vote the next time we do this Top 100.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: munchin on March 28, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Spike Lee has as many great films as horrible ones, so overall I'd say he's capable of being a solid director. On the bright side, stick around so you can vote the next time we do this Top 100.

Oh he certainly has many more great films than horrible ones. It seems like he's caught up in that Woody Allen trap where he just has to release something Every year. Not every idea needs to play out over 120 minutes. But it's not like they're diminishing returns - just uneven. He followed Miracle at St. Anna with 'Passing Strange,' my absolutely favorite movie of 2009.

But thanks, I'll definitely stick around!
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on October 31, 2011, 12:42:51 PM
Are we doing this again this year, maybe after Performances is done?  I've been fine-tuning my list.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: Bondo on October 31, 2011, 12:52:22 PM
I think the plan was for a year off. Filmspot season will be coming up soon.
Title: Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors Countdown : Comments & Discussion
Post by: MartinTeller on October 31, 2011, 12:54:35 PM
Filmspot season will be coming up soon.

Kinda dreading that, I'm even more behind on new movies than usual this year.  I might sit it out.