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1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« on: May 25, 2011, 05:21:36 PM »
The lineup and the order I plan to watch them in...

Lindsay Anderson – O Lucky Man!
Lindsay Anderson - Britannia Hospital
Theodoros Angelopoulos – Landscape in the Mist
Anthony Asquith – Pygmalion
Anthony Asquith – The Browning Version
Jacques Becker – Le Trou
Jacques Becker – Touchez pas au grisbi
Ingmar Bergman - Smiles of a Summer Night
Luis García Berlanga – El Verdugo
Frank Borzage – The Mortal Storm
Frank Borzage – Moonrise
Frank Borzage - 7th Heaven
Frank Borzage - Street Angel
Frank Borzage - Lucky Star
Frank Borzage - The River
John Brahm – The Lodger
Robert Bresson – Pickpocket
Robert Bresson – Mouchette
Leos Carax – Lovers on the Bridge
John Cassavetes - Shadows
John Cassavetes - Faces
John Cassavetes - The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
Vera Chytilová – Daisies
René Clair – Ŕ Nous la Liberté
René Clair - Le Million
René Clair – I Married a Witch
The Dardenne Brothers - La Promesse
The Dardenne Brothers - Rosetta
The Dardenne Brothers - L'enfant
Delmer Daves - 3:10 to Yuma
Aleksandr Dovzhenko – Arsenal
Aleksandr Dovzhenko – Earth
Carl Theodor Dreyer – Day of Wrath
Carl Theodor Dreyer – Vampyr
Victor Erice – The Spirit of the Beehive
Bill Forsyth – Local Hero
Pietro Germi – Divorce Italian Style
Jean-Luc Godard – Breathless
Howard Hawks – Sergeant York
Alfred Hitchcock - Lifeboat
Sang-soo Hong – Oki's Movie
Kon Ichikawa – Fires on the Plain
Kon Ichikawa – The Burmese Harp
Mick Jackson - Threads
Miklós Jancsó – The Round-Up
Miklós Jancsó – The Red and the White
Zhang Ke Jia – Still Life
Phil Karlson – The Phenix City Story
Aki Kaurismäki - Leningrad Cowboys Go America
Abbas Kiarostami – Taste of Cherry
Abbas Kiarostami – The Wind Will Carry Us
Abbas Kiarostami – Ten
Krzysztof Kieslowski – Camera Buff
Emir Kusturica – Time of the Gypsies
Mitchell Leisen – Midnight
Mohsen Makhmalbaf – A Moment of Innocence
Mohsen Makhmalbaf – Salaam Cinema
Mohsen Makhmalbaf – Gabbeh
Mohsen Makhmalbaf – Kandahar
Mohsen Makhmalbaf – The Silence
Louis Malle – Elevator to the Gallows
Louis Malle – Atlantic City
Louis Malle – Pretty Baby
Louis Malle - Au Revoir Les Enfants
Jirí Menzel – Closely Watched Trains
Nikita Mikhalkov – Burnt by the Sun
Kenji Mizoguchi – Sansho the Bailiff
Mikio Naruse – When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
Ronald Neame - The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie
Ronald Neame – Hopscotch
Kihachi Okamoto – The Sword of Doom
Ermanno Olmi - Il Posto
Max Ophüls - Letter from an Unknown Woman
Pier Paolo Pasolini - The Gospel According to St. Matthew
Pier Paolo Pasolini - Teorema
Pier Paolo Pasolini - The Hawks and the Sparrows
Vsevolod Pudovkin – Mother
Richard Quine - Bell, Book and Candle
Richard Quine - My Sister Eileen
Richard Quine - Pushover
Lynne Ramsay – Ratcatcher
Carol Reed – The Fallen Idol
Leni Riefenstahl – Olympia
Leni Riefenstahl – Triumph of the Will
Don Siegel – The Lineup
Victor Sjöström - The Phantom Carriage
Joe Swanberg – Hannah Takes the Stairs
Anh Hung Tran – Scent of Green Papaya
Anh Hung Tran – The Vertical Ray of the Sun
Andrzej Wajda - Ashes and Diamonds
Andrzej Wajda - Kanal
Frederick Wiseman – Titicut Follies
Frederick Wiseman – High School
Terry Zwigoff - Crumb


The list above comes from the Directors Board and contains a combination of
Directors I've never seen a single film from.
Directors I've only seen one film from.
Directors I would like to see more from.

I decided on the titles based on my knowledge of the films, Filmspotter votes and IMDB popularity. I tried to find the best first (or next) film from their catalogue. Depending on how much I'm enjoying a director, I may add more titles. I may also add more directors since there are new polls added all the time.
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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 05:48:50 PM »
Can I suggest just participating in the List of Shame thread?  Or do you prefer to do it marathon-style?

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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 06:02:50 PM »
Cool beans. A lot of good stuff on there, a lot of stuff I need to watch as well.
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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 06:07:34 PM »
Oh great, another marathon where 1SO gets to make me sad several times a week.
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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 06:10:15 PM »
I guess the general consensus is in opposition to me on this but I wouldn't recommend Titicut Follies as your first Wiseman. I think it has other issues that can get in the way of appreciating his style. High School (his second doc) might be a better place to start and is still one of the shorter ones.

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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 06:12:43 PM »
Bill Forsyth – Local Hero

Have you seen Gregory's Girl?  Also, what other Miklos Jancso, Angelopoulos, Kaurismaki, Hou Hsiao-hsien and Jia Zhang-ke movies have you seen?
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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 07:24:07 PM »
Can I suggest just participating in the List of Shame thread?  Or do you prefer to do it marathon-style?
I plan on doing that as well, but I prefer Marathon Style. I try to keep my queue updated with incoming DVDs and I have to wait for my orders before putting Dictations in my queue. Very few films appear on both lists. (My Great Movies Marathon took away a lot of Shame. My most shameful now are L'avventura and Make Way For Tomorrow). Some of the titles here are really obscure.



Oh great, another marathon where 1SO gets to make me sad several times a week.
Yeah. I'm going into a lot of these titles pretty blind. But I'm much more worried about my List of Shame right now, which contain titles I've avoided seeing for very good reason. Besides this is how you also end up reading about the joy of surprises.



I guess the general consensus is in opposition to me on this but I wouldn't recommend Titicut Follies as your first Wiseman. I think it has other issues that can get in the way of appreciating his style. High School (his second doc) might be a better place to start and is still one of the shorter ones.
Thanks for the tip. I may start with High School, but I still want to see Titicut Follies.


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Have you seen Gregory's Girl?  Also, what other Miklos Jancso, Angelopoulos, Kaurismaki, Hou Hsiao-hsien and Jia Zhang-ke movies have you seen?
Watched Gregory's Girl earlier this year. It was cute.
Miklos Jansco - The Red and the White would be my first. Do you think I should start with The Round-up? I'll happily put both in my queue
Angelopoulos - Haven't seen any, but I'd heard about Eternity and a Day. Never heard of Landscape in the Mist. Because of his pace, I'd like to just start with one for now
Kaurismaki - I've seen The Match Factory Girl. Heard of Leningrad Cowboys, which is Martin's 2nd Favorite
Hou Hsiao-hsien - seen Millennium Mambo and Three Times. Considered going with Flowers of Shanghai, but City of Sadness has real high scores.
Jia Zhang-ke - None. Worm, Martin and two others praise Still Life, so I went with that.
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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 09:00:10 PM »
Watched Gregory's Girl earlier this year. It was cute.

Cool.

Miklos Jansco - The Red and the White would be my first. Do you think I should start with The Round-up? I'll happily put both in my queue

Yeah, The Round-Up is way better as is Red Psalm.  (The Red atW is great.)  Jancso is the closest forerunner to Bela Tarr's fluid long takes.  In that regard, Red Psalm is better than TR-U which is not to say TR-U is short of virtuosic long takes.  Overall, though, TR-U is, for me, Jancso's best movie.  In terms of inimitable visual style, Jancso is no lower than #5 all time in my mind.

Angelopoulos - Haven't seen any, but I'd heard about Eternity and a Day. Never heard of Landscape in the Mist. Because of his pace, I'd like to just start with one for now

I recommend The Weaping Meadow as it's his fastest paced movie that I've seen so far.  It's not a war movie, but it's war-related.  In my experience, war-related films have a higher success rate.

Hou Hsiao-hsien - seen Millennium Mambo and Three Times. Considered going with Flowers of Shanghai, but City of Sadness has real high scores.

Depending on your source for CoS, the intertitles (revealing the content of written letters by a character) might not be subtitled.  FoS takes place in a brothel, has Tony Leung, and an elegant roaming camera.  CoS has Tony Leung and some crime-related content, but the references to Taiwanese history seems to be a point of misgiving for some viewers that can easily be remedied by brief Google searches after watching the movie.

Jia Zhang-ke - None. Worm, Martin and two others praise Still Life, so I went with that.

Platform is about 2.5 hours but I think it's better, has much more comedic moments than SL, and focuses on teens/young adults and Chinese pop culture of the time.

But really, I don't want to dissuade you from your choices.  Instead I want to offer another film by each in case you're not taken by what you saw.  Really looking forward to your write-ups!

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 11:53:35 PM »
Miklos Jansco - I added The Round-Up but decided to keep The Red and The White

Angelopoulos - The Weeping Meadow is over 3 hours long. Looking at his poll, I'd really rather stick with Eternity and a Day or switch to Landscape in the Mist. Kind of a toss up. Whichever one I watch will decide if I watch the other soon after.

Hou Hsiao-hsien - I have no problem with a little Google research. Seems like I'm in for a treat either way as long as I go in with an open and patient mind. At my age, crime is more interesting than a brothel.

Jia Zhang-ke -  I'm actually interested in most of his films including Platform and The World, but I'm Sticking with Still Life to get my feet wet.


If I don't like a film by a particular director, I'll still see another film from them. It'll just be some point down the road. I never give up on a respected filmmaker.

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Re: 1SO vs. The Directors of Shame
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 11:57:10 PM »
That is such an awesome line-up of movies.  It gives me goosebumps.  I can't wait to read your reactions.

For Asquith, I would recommend both Pygmalion and Browning Version over Earnest, but they're all great.

 

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