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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 32 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part II
« Reply #2500 on: October 24, 2013, 01:43:02 AM »
The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, 1981) — 7
Creepshow (George A. Romero, 1982) — 7.5
Christine (John Carpenter, 1983) — 7.5
Cujo (Lewis Teague, 1983) — 4
The Dead Zone (David Cronenberg, 1983) — 8
Crash (David Cronenberg, 1996) — 7.5
The Call of Cthulhu (Andrew Leman, 2005) — 6
Cloverfield (Matt Reeves, 2008) — 7
The Cabin in the Woods (Drew Goddard, 2012) — 8.3
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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 32 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part II
« Reply #2501 on: October 24, 2013, 10:54:58 PM »
Creature from the Black Lagoon (Jack Arnold, 1954) — 0.4

C'mon, the underwater scene with Julie Adams swimming above the Creature are at least worth a few more points than that.

That scene is worth exactly 3/10s of a point. (The other tenth is for the adorable costume. It makes me want a cuddly manphibian all my own!)

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Re: The Ratings Project
« Reply #2502 on: October 25, 2013, 12:31:14 PM »
Week 32: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part II

Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler (Fritz Lang, 1922) — 6
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (Rouben Mamoulian, 1931) — 8
Dracula (Tod Browning, 1931) — 7
Cat People (Jacques Tourneur, 1942) — 10
Carnival of Souls (Herk Harvey, 1962) — 7
Duel (Steven Spielberg, 1971) — 7
Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma, 1980) — 8
The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, 1981) — 7
Day of the Dead (George A. Romero, 1985) — 7
Candyman (Bernard Rose, 1992) — 6
Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola, 1992) — 7
The Crow (Alex Proyas, 1994) — 6
The Devil's Advocate (Taylor Hackford, 1997) — 4
Event Horizon (Paul W.S. Anderson, 1997) — 5
Cloverfield (Matt Reeves, 2008) — 7
Drag Me to Hell (Sam Raimi, 2009) — 8
The Cabin in the Woods (Drew Goddard, 2012) — 8
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Re: The Ratings Project
« Reply #2503 on: October 27, 2013, 02:52:12 PM »
Week 31: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part I
A selection of films nominated for the Top 100 Horror list.

And Then There Were None (Renι Clair, 1945) — 10
The Blob (Irvin S. Yeaworth Jr., 1958) — 7
Blood and Black Lace (Mario Bava, 1964) — 9
The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (Dario Argento, 1970) — 9
A Bay of Blood (Mario Bava, 1971) — 9
Black Christmas (Bob Clark, 1974) — 5
The Brood (David Cronenberg, 1979) — 4
The Beyond (Lucio Fulci, 1981) — 7
Bad Taste (Peter Jackson, 1987) — 2
Beetlejuice (Tim Burton, 1988) — 6
Arachnophobia (Frank Marshall, 1990) — 6
The Addams Family (Barry Sonnenfeld, 1991) — 7
Alien³ (David Fincher, 1992) — 7
Army of Darkness (Sam Raimi, 1992) — 6
Body Snatchers (Abel Ferrara, 1993) — 7
Anaconda (Luis Llosa, 1997) — 3
Audition (Takashi Miike, 1999) — 9
Battle Royale (Kinji Fukasaku, 2000) — 9.5
Below (David Twohy, 2002) — 5.5
Bubba Ho-Tep (Don Coscarelli, 2002) — 4
Cabin Fever (Eli Roth, 2002) — 3
Bug (William Friedkin, 2006) — 9
1408 (Mikael Hεfstrφm, 2007) — 4
28 Weeks Later (Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, 2007) — 6
Amer (Hιlθne Cattet, Bruno Forzani, 2009) — 2
Antichrist (Lars von Trier, 2009) — 6
Buried (Rodrigo Cortιs, 2010) — 7
The Awakening (Nick Murphy, 2011) — 7


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Week 32: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part II
A selection of films nominated for the Top 100 Horror list.

Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler (Fritz Lang, 1922) — 8
Cat People (Jacques Tourneur, 1942) — 7
Carnival of Souls (Herk Harvey, 1962) — 7
Duel (Steven Spielberg, 1971) — 9
Damien: Omen II (Don Taylor, 1978) — 4
The Changeling (Peter Medak, 1980) — 6
Dressed to Kill (Brian De Palma, 1980) — 9
The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi, 1981) — 6
Creepshow (George A. Romero, 1982) — 4
The Dead Zone (David Cronenberg, 1983) — 9.5
The Company of Wolves (Neil Jordan, 1984) — 4
Day of the Dead (George A. Romero, 1985) — 7
Child's Play (Tom Holland, 1988) — 6
Dead Calm (Phillip Noyce, 1989) — 8
Candyman (Bernard Rose, 1992) — 6
Dead Alive (Peter Jackson, 1992) — 7
Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola, 1992) — 9
Cemetery Man (Michele Soavi, 1994) — 7
The Crow (Alex Proyas, 1994) — 9
Crash (David Cronenberg, 1996) — 6
Cube (Vincenzo Natali, 1997) — 9
The Devil's Advocate (Taylor Hackford, 1997) — 7.5
Event Horizon (Paul W.S. Anderson, 1997) — 9
Deep Blue Sea (Renny Harlin, 1999) — 9
Dark Water (Hideo Nakata, 2002) — 4
Dog Soldiers (Neil Marshall, 2002) — 6
Eight Legged Freaks (Ellory Elkayem, 2002) — 7
Dead End (Jean-Baptiste Andrea, Fabrice Canepa, 2003) — 10
Dawn of the Dead (Zack Snyder, 2004) — 5
The Children (Tom Shankland, 2008) — 10
Cloverfield (Matt Reeves, 2008) — 10
Drag Me to Hell (Sam Raimi, 2009) — 6
The Cabin in the Woods (Drew Goddard, 2012) — 10
The Conjuring (James Wan, 2013) — 9

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The Ratings Project: Week 33 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
« Reply #2504 on: November 01, 2013, 03:00:29 PM »
Week 33: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
A selection of films nominated for the Top 100 Horror list.

Hδxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (Benjamin Christensen, 1922) —
The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein, 1928) —
The Hound of the Baskervilles (Sidney Lanfield, 1939) —
House of Wax (Andrι De Toth, 1953) —
Horror of Dracula (Terence Fisher, 1958) —
The Ghost of Yotsuya (Nakagawa Nobuo, 1959) —
House on Haunted Hill (William Castle, 1959) —
House of Usher (Roger Corman, 1960) —
Homicidal (William Castle, 1961) —
The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963) —
Four Flies on Grey Velvet (Dario Argento, 1971) —
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (Banno Yoshimitsu, 1971) —
Frenzy (Alfred Hitchcock, 1972) —
Flesh for Frankenstein (Paul Morrissey, Antonio Margheriti, 1973) —
Homebodies (Larry Yust, 1974) —
The House of the Laughing Windows (Pupi Avati, 1976) —
Exorcist II: The Heretic (John Boorman, 1977) —
The Finishing Line (John Krish, 1977) —
The Fury (Brian De Palma, 1978) —
The Fog (John Carpenter, 1980) —
Friday the 13th (Sean S. Cunningham, 1980) —
The Funhouse (Tobe Hooper, 1981) —
Halloween III: Season of the Witch (Tommy Lee Wallace, 1982) —
The House of the Yellow Carpet (Carlo Lizzani, 1983) —
The Hunger (Tony Scott, 1983) —
Firestarter (Mark L. Lester, 1984) —
Fright Night (Tom Holland, 1985) —
From Beyond (Stuart Gordon, 1986) —
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton, 1986) —
Hellraiser (Clive Barker, 1987) —
Ghostbusters II (Ivan Reitman, 1989) —
The Exorcist III (William Peter Blatty, 1990) —
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990) —
Fire in the Sky (Robert Lieberman, 1993) —
The Frighteners (Peter Jackson, 1996) —
From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez, 1996) —
Frost (Fred Kelemen, 1997) —
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997) —
The Faculty (Robert Rodriguez, 1998) —
Fallen (Gregory Hoblit, 1998) —
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (Steve Miner, 1998) —
Final Destination (James Wong, 2000) —
Ginger Snaps (John Fawcett, 2000) —
Frailty (Bill Paxton, 2001) —
The Happiness of the Katakuris (Takashi Miike, 2001) —
The Eye (Oxide Pang Chun, Danny Pang, 2002) —
Final Destination 2 (David R. Ellis, 2003) —
High Tension (Alexandre Aja, 2003) —
The Grudge (Shimizu Takashi, 2004) —
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (Scott Derrickson, 2005) —
Hard Candy (David Slade, 2005) —
Hostel (Eli Roth, 2005) —
Fido (Andrew Currie, 2006) —
Halloween II (Rob Zombie, 2009) —
The Human Centipede (Tom Six, 2009) —
Frozen (Adam Green, 2010) —
Fright Night (Craig Gillespie, 2011) —
Hell (Tim Fehlbaum, 2011) —
Excision (Richard Bates Jr., 2012) —
Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez, 2013) —

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Week 2: Horror Films
Week 3: Coming of Age
Week 4: Filmspotters' Top 12 Directors
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Week 23: The Top 100, Part I
Week 24: The Top 100, Part II
Week 25: The Top 100, Part III
Week 26: The Top 100, Part IV
Week 27: The Top 100, Part V
Week 28: IMDb, AFI, and Sight & Sound
Week 29: They Shoot Pictures, Don't They?
Week 30: Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide
Week 31: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part I
Week 32: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part II

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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 33 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
« Reply #2505 on: November 01, 2013, 03:04:16 PM »
Week 33: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
A selection of films nominated for the Top 100 Horror list.

Hδxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (Benjamin Christensen, 1922) — 9
Horror of Dracula (Terence Fisher, 1958) — 8
Exorcist II: The Heretic (John Boorman, 1977) — 6
The Fog (John Carpenter, 1980) — 8
Halloween III: Season of the Witch (Tommy Lee Wallace, 1982) — 8
Fright Night (Tom Holland, 1985) — 8
Hellraiser (Clive Barker, 1987) — 6
Ghostbusters II (Ivan Reitman, 1989) — 7
The Exorcist III (William Peter Blatty, 1990) — 8
The Frighteners (Peter Jackson, 1996) — 7
From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez, 1996) — 8
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997) — 10
The Faculty (Robert Rodriguez, 1998) — 9
Fallen (Gregory Hoblit, 1998) — 8
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (Steve Miner, 1998) — 7
Final Destination (James Wong, 2000) — 8
Ginger Snaps (John Fawcett, 2000) — 8
Frailty (Bill Paxton, 2001) — 8
Final Destination 2 (David R. Ellis, 2003) — 8
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (Scott Derrickson, 2005) — 8
Hostel (Eli Roth, 2005) — 7
Halloween II (Rob Zombie, 2009) — 6
Frozen (Adam Green, 2010) — 7
Fright Night (Craig Gillespie, 2011) — 8
Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez, 2013) — 9
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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 33 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
« Reply #2506 on: November 01, 2013, 03:13:36 PM »
Week 33: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
A selection of films nominated for the Top 100 Horror list.

Hδxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (Benjamin Christensen, 1922) — 4
The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein, 1928) — 5
The Hound of the Baskervilles (Sidney Lanfield, 1939) — 7
House of Wax (Andrι De Toth, 1953) — 5
Horror of Dracula (Terence Fisher, 1958) — 6
House of Usher (Roger Corman, 1960) — 7
The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963) — 7
Four Flies on Grey Velvet (Dario Argento, 1971) — 4
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (Banno Yoshimitsu, 1971) — 5
Frenzy (Alfred Hitchcock, 1972) — 6
The Fury (Brian De Palma, 1978) — 6
The Fog (John Carpenter, 1980) — 7
Friday the 13th (Sean S. Cunningham, 1980) — 2
The Hunger (Tony Scott, 1983) — 1
Firestarter (Mark L. Lester, 1984) — 4
Fright Night (Tom Holland, 1985) — 6
From Beyond (Stuart Gordon, 1986) — 4
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton, 1986) — 6
Hellraiser (Clive Barker, 1987) — 8
Ghostbusters II (Ivan Reitman, 1989) — 2
The Exorcist III (William Peter Blatty, 1990) — 8
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990) — 6
Fire in the Sky (Robert Lieberman, 1993) — 4
The Frighteners (Peter Jackson, 1996) — 8
From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez, 1996) — 8
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997) — 8
The Faculty (Robert Rodriguez, 1998) — 8
Fallen (Gregory Hoblit, 1998) — 3
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (Steve Miner, 1998) — 4
Final Destination (James Wong, 2000) — 6
Ginger Snaps (John Fawcett, 2000) — 6
Frailty (Bill Paxton, 2001) — 8
The Happiness of the Katakuris (Takashi Miike, 2001) — 4
The Eye (Oxide Pang Chun, Danny Pang, 2002) — 4
Final Destination 2 (David R. Ellis, 2003) — 4
High Tension (Alexandre Aja, 2003) — 3
The Grudge (Shimizu Takashi, 2004) — 6
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (Scott Derrickson, 2005) — 6
Hard Candy (David Slade, 2005) — 8
Hostel (Eli Roth, 2005) — 7
Halloween II (Rob Zombie, 2009) — 2
Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez, 2013) — 4
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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 33 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
« Reply #2507 on: November 01, 2013, 03:15:35 PM »
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Hδxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (Benjamin Christensen, 1922) — 7.5
The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein, 1928) — 5.8
The Hound of the Baskervilles (Sidney Lanfield, 1939) — 8.2
House of Wax (Andrι De Toth, 1953) — 7.7
Horror of Dracula (Terence Fisher, 1958) — 8.6
House on Haunted Hill (William Castle, 1959) — 8.9
House of Usher (Roger Corman, 1960) — 8.1
Homicidal (William Castle, 1961) — 8.6
The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963) — 8.5
Frenzy (Alfred Hitchcock, 1972) — 8.4
Flesh for Frankenstein (Paul Morrissey, Antonio Margheriti, 1973) — 0.5
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton, 1986) — 7.2
Ghostbusters II (Ivan Reitman, 1989) — 5.8
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990) — 5.4
From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez, 1996) — 6.5
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997) — 8.3
Fido (Andrew Currie, 2006) — 7.0

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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 33 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
« Reply #2508 on: November 01, 2013, 03:30:08 PM »
Hδxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (Benjamin Christensen, 1922) — 5
The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein, 1928) — 5
The Hound of the Baskervilles (Sidney Lanfield, 1939) — 6
House of Wax (Andrι De Toth, 1953) — 6
Horror of Dracula (Terence Fisher, 1958) — 4
House on Haunted Hill (William Castle, 1959) — 6
The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963) — 6
Frenzy (Alfred Hitchcock, 1972) — 8
Flesh for Frankenstein (Paul Morrissey, Antonio Margheriti, 1973) — 2
The Fog (John Carpenter, 1980) — 6
Friday the 13th (Sean S. Cunningham, 1980) — 5
Halloween III: Season of the Witch (Tommy Lee Wallace, 1982) — 1
From Beyond (Stuart Gordon, 1986) — 7
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton, 1986) — 5
Hellraiser (Clive Barker, 1987) — 5
Ghostbusters II (Ivan Reitman, 1989) — 5
The Frighteners (Peter Jackson, 1996) — 6
From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez, 1996) — 7 
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997) — 5
Hard Candy (David Slade, 2005) — 5
The Human Centipede (Tom Six, 2009) — 6



The Ghost of Yotsuya (Nakagawa Nobuo, 1959) —
House of Usher (Roger Corman, 1960) —
Homicidal (William Castle, 1961) —
Four Flies on Grey Velvet (Dario Argento, 1971) —
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (Banno Yoshimitsu, 1971) —
Homebodies (Larry Yust, 1974) —
The House of the Laughing Windows (Pupi Avati, 1976) —
Exorcist II: The Heretic (John Boorman, 1977) —
The Finishing Line (John Krish, 1977) —
The Fury (Brian De Palma, 1978) —
The Funhouse (Tobe Hooper, 1981) —
The House of the Yellow Carpet (Carlo Lizzani, 1983) —
The Hunger (Tony Scott, 1983) —
Firestarter (Mark L. Lester, 1984) —
Fright Night (Tom Holland, 1985) —
The Exorcist III (William Peter Blatty, 1990) —
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990) —
Fire in the Sky (Robert Lieberman, 1993) —
Frost (Fred Kelemen, 1997) —
The Faculty (Robert Rodriguez, 1998) —
Fallen (Gregory Hoblit, 1998) —
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (Steve Miner, 1998) —
Final Destination (James Wong, 2000) —
Ginger Snaps (John Fawcett, 2000) —
Frailty (Bill Paxton, 2001) —
The Happiness of the Katakuris (Takashi Miike, 2001) —
The Eye (Oxide Pang Chun, Danny Pang, 2002) —
Final Destination 2 (David R. Ellis, 2003) —
High Tension (Alexandre Aja, 2003) —
The Grudge (Shimizu Takashi, 2004) —
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (Scott Derrickson, 2005) —
Hostel (Eli Roth, 2005) —
Fido (Andrew Currie, 2006) —
Halloween II (Rob Zombie, 2009) —
Frozen (Adam Green, 2010) —
Fright Night (Craig Gillespie, 2011) —
Hell (Tim Fehlbaum, 2011) —
Excision (Richard Bates Jr., 2012) —
Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez, 2013) —

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Re: The Ratings Project: Week 33 — Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
« Reply #2509 on: November 01, 2013, 03:41:09 PM »
Week 33: Top 100 Horror Nominees, Part III
A selection of films nominated for the Top 100 Horror list.

Hδxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages (Benjamin Christensen, 1922) — 7.1
The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein, 1928) — 7.6
The Hound of the Baskervilles (Sidney Lanfield, 1939) — 7.8
Horror of Dracula (Terence Fisher, 1958) — 7.7
The Ghost of Yotsuya (Nakagawa Nobuo, 1959) — 7.7
House on Haunted Hill (William Castle, 1959) — 8.7
Homicidal (William Castle, 1961) — 8.4
The Haunting (Robert Wise, 1963) — 6.4
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster (Banno Yoshimitsu, 1971) — 8.3
Frenzy (Alfred Hitchcock, 1972) — 7.2
Friday the 13th (Sean S. Cunningham, 1980) — 4.3
The Hunger (Tony Scott, 1983) — 6.1
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton, 1986) — 7.7
Hellraiser (Clive Barker, 1987) — 5.8
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997) — 8.9
The Faculty (Robert Rodriguez, 1998) — 4.2
Ginger Snaps (John Fawcett, 2000) — 5.7
Frailty (Bill Paxton, 2001) — 6.5
The Happiness of the Katakuris (Takashi Miike, 2001) — 8.4
The Eye (Oxide Pang Chun, Danny Pang, 2002) — 5.8
Final Destination 2 (David R. Ellis, 2003) — 6.0
The Grudge (Shimizu Takashi, 2004) — 8.3
Hostel (Eli Roth, 2005) — 7.8


House of Wax (Andrι De Toth, 1953) —
House of Usher (Roger Corman, 1960) —
Four Flies on Grey Velvet (Dario Argento, 1971) —
Flesh for Frankenstein (Paul Morrissey, Antonio Margheriti, 1973) —
Homebodies (Larry Yust, 1974) —
The House of the Laughing Windows (Pupi Avati, 1976) —
Exorcist II: The Heretic (John Boorman, 1977) —
The Finishing Line (John Krish, 1977) —
The Fury (Brian De Palma, 1978) —
The Fog (John Carpenter, 1980) —
The Funhouse (Tobe Hooper, 1981) —
Halloween III: Season of the Witch (Tommy Lee Wallace, 1982) —
The House of the Yellow Carpet (Carlo Lizzani, 1983) —
Firestarter (Mark L. Lester, 1984) —
Fright Night (Tom Holland, 1985) —
From Beyond (Stuart Gordon, 1986) —
Ghostbusters II (Ivan Reitman, 1989) —
The Exorcist III (William Peter Blatty, 1990) —
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990) —
Fire in the Sky (Robert Lieberman, 1993) —
The Frighteners (Peter Jackson, 1996) —
From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez, 1996) —
Frost (Fred Kelemen, 1997) —
Fallen (Gregory Hoblit, 1998) —
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later (Steve Miner, 1998) —
Final Destination (James Wong, 2000) —
High Tension (Alexandre Aja, 2003) —
The Exorcism of Emily Rose (Scott Derrickson, 2005) —
Hard Candy (David Slade, 2005) —
Fido (Andrew Currie, 2006) —
Halloween II (Rob Zombie, 2009) —
The Human Centipede (Tom Six, 2009) —
Frozen (Adam Green, 2010) —
Fright Night (Craig Gillespie, 2011) —
Hell (Tim Fehlbaum, 2011) —
Excision (Richard Bates Jr., 2012) —
Evil Dead (Fede Alvarez, 2013) —


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