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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2013, 04:09:48 PM »
M:I-2 has nothing to apologize for, imo. :)

Neither does Quantum of Solace...

I hope this motivates me to revisit Skyfall for my full, marathon level review.
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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2013, 04:27:00 PM »
Goldeneye (How come this one is so much better than Die Another Day?)

What's most compelling about your question is that you're asking it having seen Die Another Day first. I'd be surprised if anyone else on this forum saw those two films in that order. I think it indicates that there's a lot more going on than just Brosnan getting stale in later films. There are some things that simply do not work with that final film. Enough of them to make the experience disappointing for both a first-time Brosnan viewer and a Brosnan aficionado.

Really breaking it down feels like a 10 hour project for another day though. :)

M:I-2 has nothing to apologize for, imo. :)

Neither does Quantum of Solace...

I am so glad you said that! In spite of my theater experience with it leaving me disappointed, that was many years ago now, and Skyfall didn't exist. All I saw was the trajectory of the franchise, and it felt like it went off a cliff. But in retrospect I think much of my disappointment had to do with my sky high expectations after Casino Royale. And then after QoS my expectations were so low that Skyfall easily exceeded them and I enjoyed it.



I think a rewatch will go a long way to flattening that chart out. Also, after seeing Skyfall and feeling like the franchise is back on track, I have tremendous "good will" towards QoS. You know what I mean? Sometimes you go into a film and it's hard not to be skeptical. That won't be a problem for me with QoS. I want to see the goodness.

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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 06:04:22 PM »
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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 09:16:21 PM »
Quantum of Solace












             Too close, a little too close.

For the love of all that is holy! Would someone please back up the camera a few feet? And, could you stop editing the film to within an inch of its life? Right from the get-go I don't know who's who or what's what, so it quickly becomes who cares? After a while, I close my eyes just to get some relief from the pain it's causing them. Unfortunately, in my case, that induces quick sleep and I wake to a water chase scene and more up close and too personal nano second shots. Really? Is there nothing worth lingering on? You've paid a lot of money for those set pieces and props. How about letting me see them? I did go back and filled in the REM blanks, but didn't miss out on much the first time through. Um, is there an inordinate amount of death in this installment, or am I just out of the loop? I'd write more, but for making my head hurt, it gets part of my attention... the minimum amount.

Awww, that last scene and line... Okay, all is forgiven and I eagerly await Skyfall. :)
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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 09:20:02 PM »
And, could you stop editing the film to within an inch of its life?

Oh no. This was death by editing. Too many cuts bled the life right out of it.

But I still believe the footage is there. I wish/hope/pray they do a re-edited restoration that allows us to enjoy the action instead of punishing us with the destruction.

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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 09:31:18 PM »
I do really admire aspects of QoS, it's got a lot of good story beats and I like some of the themes but I'll agree the editing ruins a lot of the film. I'd be down for a re-edit of the film.

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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 09:56:55 PM »
Is that really possible? Has re-editing been done before in something you two have seen?
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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 10:44:28 PM »
Touch of Evil
Saturday Night Fever
Star Wars: The Phantom Edit
Blade Runner and pretty much everything else by Ridley Scott

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Re: A Shaken, Not Stirred Message Will Self Destruct...
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 11:03:07 PM »
Oh! I've not heard of The Phantom Edit. What a great idea!

Thanks for the list 1SO!
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