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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #570 on: March 14, 2020, 02:09:30 PM »
The Beach Bum definitely should have gotten Best Costume. I will certainly say that it did, in my heart. The only film I actively looked up info on the costume designer.

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A Decade of Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #571 on: March 26, 2020, 08:34:34 PM »
A question for the group as I build the Letterboxd list.

I'm putting Animated and Documentary aside for special recognition and removing Overlooked and Surprise.
With Non-English Language Film, should I:

A) Remove that category too?
B) Include those titles?
C) Only include films that either won or are nominated in other categories?


Of the 50 nominees, 16 were nominated in only this Category.
Winners that were only nominated for Non-English Language Film:
BPM (Beats Per Minute)
The Wolf House
The Hunt

The Tale of the Princess Kaguya would be eliminated even though it won Non-English Language and Animated.

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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #572 on: March 26, 2020, 08:38:37 PM »
Here's my overriding concern after seeing this all playout once:

How do you decide the year a film was released? Is it not the American release date? (Capernaum was released in the U.S. in 2018 and Weathering with You in 2020.)

Otherwise, thank you so much to the people who put in the hard work here. Really awesome job, and you go above and beyond with the statistical analyses.
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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #573 on: March 26, 2020, 08:45:15 PM »
Well, these are all based on Filmspotting nominations, right? So it would be anything nominated in those years, no matter their actual release date.

1SO, I'm forgetting now which categories you are drawing from?

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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #574 on: March 26, 2020, 08:47:03 PM »
That...doesn't make sense. Release date should matter. How can we nominate something for 2019 that we clearly (barring film festivals) only could see by 2020 because that's when it was released?
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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #575 on: March 26, 2020, 08:49:29 PM »
That applies to Portrait of a Lady on Fire as much as it does to Weathering With You. Films can never be nominated too early, only too late.

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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #576 on: March 26, 2020, 08:58:46 PM »
That...doesn't make sense. Release date should matter. How can we nominate something for 2019 that we clearly (barring film festivals) only could see by 2020 because that's when it was released?
I think pixote found a nice way to manage this concern.

What determines whether or not a film is eligible in a given year?

Films are eligible for up to a three-year period, starting with their first theatrical release. There are five limiting factors, however: Films are no longer eligible in subsequent years after any of the following occur:

1) The film gains a wide theatrical release in the US (playing simultaneously on more than 100 or so screens).

2) The film debuts on DVD in the US.

3) The film earns a Filmspot nomination.

4) The film is a made-for-tv film and airs on US television.

5) The film's US rights are exclusively owned by a streaming service (such as Netflix) and the film premieres on that service.

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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #577 on: March 26, 2020, 09:02:26 PM »
1SO, I'm forgetting now which categories you are drawing from?

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Original Screenplay
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Actor
Best Actress
Best Supporting Actor
Best Supporting Actress
Best Ensemble Cast
Best Editing
Best Sound
Best Score
Best Soundtrack
Best Cinematography
Best Art Direction
Best Visual Effects
Best Debut Feature
Best Scene (Dramatic)
Best Scene (Comedic)
Best Shot
Best Line

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Re: A Decade of Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #578 on: March 26, 2020, 11:27:28 PM »
A question for the group as I build the Letterboxd list.

I'm putting Animated and Documentary aside for special recognition and removing Overlooked and Surprise.
With Non-English Language Film, should I:

A) Remove that category too?
B) Include those titles?
C) Only include films that either won or are nominated in other categories?


Of the 50 nominees, 16 were nominated in only this Category.
Winners that were only nominated for Non-English Language Film:
BPM (Beats Per Minute)
The Wolf House
The Hunt

The Tale of the Princess Kaguya would be eliminated even though it won Non-English Language and Animated.

My opinion: Non-English titles should be included, mixed with the rest of the films.
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Re: Filmspots: General Discussion
« Reply #579 on: March 26, 2020, 11:56:34 PM »
That...doesn't make sense. Release date should matter. How can we nominate something for 2019 that we clearly (barring film festivals) only could see by 2020 because that's when it was released?
I think pixote found a nice way to manage this concern.

What determines whether or not a film is eligible in a given year?

Films are eligible for up to a three-year period, starting with their first theatrical release. There are five limiting factors, however: Films are no longer eligible in subsequent years after any of the following occur:

1) The film gains a wide theatrical release in the US (playing simultaneously on more than 100 or so screens).

2) The film debuts on DVD in the US.

3) The film earns a Filmspot nomination.

4) The film is a made-for-tv film and airs on US television.

5) The film's US rights are exclusively owned by a streaming service (such as Netflix) and the film premieres on that service.

I appreciate being pointed to the rules. Ultimately, I'm a team player and relatively new here, so it's cool. I just think that's very complicated for what could be a lot simpler, based on the year the film is released in the U.S.
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