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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #100 on: January 12, 2016, 05:31:59 PM »
1SO would be better suited to talk about my rating distribution since I didn't keep track. I think I had a pretty normal distribution. It wasn't love or hate.

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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2016, 01:10:08 AM »
Let me open with the blanket statement that I don't believe anybody was gaming the system with extreme ratings. Possibly fudging the numbers a little (which I will elaborate below) but the closest to something I would call gaming would be the smirnoff system I mentioned. The one... the only good thing about his departure is that he never rated Inactive directors, because he was always open as preferring modern films to older ones.

Bondo, you took up the banner for 'negative voting' but I know Martin wasn't referring to you. We had spoken in PM about some voting that appeared negative, but I didn't have a problem with it because it was consistent. People whose Ratings tend to run low completed the entire Project to the best of their ability, much like people whose Ratings tend to run high. So what some might see as negative voting, I see as being the other side of someone like Junior who just loves everything (except for George Lucas, Kevin Smith, Rob Zombie and Uwe Boll.)

Looking at the raw data, Bondo's average Rating was 5.67. 7 others averaged between 5.5 and 6. The most generous contributions came from Junior (7.85) and oldkid (7.54)


I guess the question is, is it "gaming" the results if I rate a director who makes me want to punch things in frustration and annoyance a zero.
That depends. Does the director have any redeeming qualities? Can you recognize a certain flair for the form, even if his style isn't your cup of tea? Do you have a range of frustration and annoyance, or does it just flip between "I love this!" and "punch things"?
I'm going to answer this with my lowest rated Directors.
Uwe Boll - .1 :I know I've seen some of at least 4 different Boll movies, but I've never watched one beginning to end because the level of incompetence is intolerable. He is a director with occasional signs of an ability to learn how to make a movie, but that is all and that's being generous.

Stan Brakhage - .7 :This is an old argument. Brakhage did something unique, but I find most of his work indistinguishable from each other. I don't understand how he decides on the length of his shorts or titles or what the point was in making so many. His longer pieces - Dog Star Man - are just as hard to watch... and so much longer. There are his two standouts - Window Water Baby Moving, The Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes - but even they are difficult to watch to completion because of Brakhage's technique.

Jean-Luc Godard - 1: I've liked a couple of Godard, but I think his main objective is to experiment on his audience with frustration and 'CINECAST! you' techniques. (I will never forgive myself for watching all of Historie(s) du cinema). And there are people who love him for this. I would say I gamed this one down a little to balance the extreme love, but my hate is genuine, and I honestly couldn't be talked into higher than 1.5

Andrzej Zulawski - 1: Thanks to goodguy, I understand what Zulawski brings to the table, but thanks to Possession I think he's a menace and I can only watch another of his films with an uneasy feeling.

Zhangke Jia - 1: There is no Director I less understand the love and acclaim for than Zhangke Jia. The filmmaking in Platform erupted aggression against Zhangke and his filmmaking style, but in my post-game I found Platform is in some Top 100s, my comments repeat a lot of what I already said about Still Life, and that kind of writing about Zhangke comes with an equal and opposite reaction.

Rob Zombie - 1: Why have I seen so many Rob Zombie films? I like horror, so he always arouses my curiosity. And he has his fans among critics. Usually a pretty smart bunch too. I just don't get it.
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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #102 on: January 13, 2016, 01:10:29 AM »
And to save Martin the time I will reveal he's one who did rate Linklater well below the other two.

I didn't give him a zero, though. I don't recall my exact score, but it should be around 7. Wouldn't make my top 50 directors, but a decent score.
It was a 6, but I wrote it because I know your list for Bergman is thorough, as is your love. You had the biggest difference between Linklater and both Bergman and Kurosawa.

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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #103 on: January 13, 2016, 09:53:39 AM »

#10 Terrence Malick

Score: 8.162 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9–8.5–8: 4–4–3–3

Key Films:
Badlands (1973)
Days of Heaven (1978)
The Thin Red Line (1998)
The New World (2005)
The Tree of Life (2011)




#9 Wes Anderson

Score: 8.177 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8: 1–1–4–2–4

Key Films:
Rushmore (1998)
The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
Moonrise Kingdom (2012)
The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)

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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2016, 10:27:13 AM »
Trying to guess who the next 8 are (in whichever order) :

Stanley Kubrick
Alfred Hitchcock
Hayao Miyazaki
Ethan & Joel Coen
Charles Chaplin
Martin Scorsese

After that I don't really know, this is harder than I thought.
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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #105 on: January 13, 2016, 11:35:30 AM »
I can't say I fully understand the justification for Zulawski with just one film. His menacing, discomforting film seemed to do its job. I would imagine his romantic comedy would make you swoon and laugh. It's certainly one of my favorites. I'm not familiar with your experience of Possession, but it's certainly not an adequate representation of the whole for so many reasons.

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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #106 on: January 13, 2016, 01:57:34 PM »
I've also seen most of On the Silver Globe. I watched more than I expected to because I really wanted to get a greater sense of Zulawski, but I didn't finish it so I never included it as one I have seen in its entirety. In my discussion with goodguy, he said that Zulawski's shouty style benefits from a theatrical experience and I can see that. Silver Globe got me to where I agree there is something to what Zulawski is doing. Like Martin comments, I can recognize a certain flair for the form, but his style is not my cup of tea. It's an off-putting variation of Jodorowsky.

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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #107 on: January 13, 2016, 01:58:19 PM »

#8 Mike Leigh

Score: 8.211 (19 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8–7: 3–1–3–1–3–5

Key Films:
Naked (1993)
Secrets & Lies (1996)
Topsy-Turvy (1999)
Vera Drake (2004)
Happy-Go-Lucky (2008)
Another Year (2010)




#7 Joel and Ethan Coen

Score: 8.269 (21 Ratings)
Rated 10–9.5–9–8.5–8: 4–1–2–2–5

Key Films:
Blood Simple (1984)
Miller's Crossing (1990)
Barton Fink (1991)
Fargo (1996)
The Big Lebowski (1998)
No Country for Old Men (2007)

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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #108 on: January 13, 2016, 02:40:36 PM »
Ah, Mike Leigh! That's a guy I forgot everybody here liked. *cue somebody coming in to say that they don't like him*
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Re: Director Ratings Project 2015 - RESULTS
« Reply #109 on: January 13, 2016, 04:56:40 PM »
Wow that's a surprise.

Happy with Coens and Wes.
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