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Which of these would you be likely to participate in?

Creating a Filmspotting Pantheon of Movie Screenwriters
5 (29.4%)
Creating a Filmspotting Pantheon of Contemporary Movie Screenwriters
2 (11.8%)
Creating a Filmspotting Pantheon of Screenplays
2 (11.8%)
Creating a Filmspotting Pantheon of Contemporary Screenplays
3 (17.6%)
A Writers Rating Project
4 (23.5%)
other
1 (5.9%)

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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2016, 11:37:24 PM »
The crushing dominance of English language movies, even among cinephiles, is unavoidable.

No, it isn't. It's a choice you make as a viewer.

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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2016, 12:34:23 AM »
Sure is. Mostly I read and watch things in my native tongue. I don't avoid foreign language things, and I seek them out when they sound interesting. But I don't have endless time or money to spend on finding and reading or watching books or movies or music. So when I do engage in my hobbies, I'll probably lean towards something that I can understand with ease, 75% of the time. My apologies if I'm part of the problem. But also, I think I've earned the right to watch whatever I want to watch.
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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2016, 12:45:52 AM »
I've also spent many years watching films from the far east with subtitles that were easily dumbed down or translated into confusion. How could I comment on a Miyazaki script if I've only seen it either dubbed or dubtitled? And why is this my fault when I didn't have the option all the time, nor do I speak Japanese?

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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2016, 01:32:12 AM »
Sure is. Mostly I read and watch things in my native tongue. I don't avoid foreign language things, and I seek them out when they sound interesting. But I don't have endless time or money to spend on finding and reading or watching books or movies or music. So when I do engage in my hobbies, I'll probably lean towards something that I can understand with ease, 75% of the time. My apologies if I'm part of the problem. But also, I think I've earned the right to watch whatever I want to watch.

True that.

Also, whatever I watch is irrelevant if everyone else only watches English movies. We are talking about a conversation here, and the majority will always tend towards more mainstream options.

Not to mention that it is not like the local multiplex is gorged with alternative foreign language movies. I had to go to a special retrospective to get The Assassin on a big screen here. Rental stores are dead and streaming services cater to mainstream American tastes. And that is only if you are lucky enough to be able to access them. As a non-US resident, I cannot get Hulu and a score of other websites and some things like Netflix have a much diminished catalogue here - one that, again, caters to local tastes. Even if I wanted to download German silent movies or Tsai Ming-Lian filmography illegally, I would have difficulty, because such movies are in low demand and therefore dew people seed them. I cannot spend tons of money on movies, but even if I could, I had a recent experience in a top European economy metropolis where I could not find a new copy of a DVD of one of Fellini's most popular movies anywhere and had to order it instead.

So sometimes the choice I make as a viewer is fairly limited.
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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2016, 05:08:27 AM »
But also, I think I've earned the right to watch whatever I want to watch.

Of course, you and everyone else can watch what they want. That goes without saying, and there is no need to even "earn that right". But if I'm not entirely mistaken, DarkeningHumour isn't even a native English speaker, so why would he succumb to a dominance of English language movies?

Anyway, all I'm objecting against is the suggestion that following along the mainstream media output is unavoidable. If that's all you're interested in, fine. But it's not some fate you have to live by. Libraries exist, DVDs can be imported from anywhere in the world (and at least in Germany, that's often cheaper than any local offers), Netflix isn't the only streaming service, torrents usually help if everything else fails.

Even if I wanted to download German silent movies or Tsai Ming-Lian filmography illegally, I would have difficulty, because such movies are in low demand and therefore dew people seed them.

Apropos Tsai Ming-liang:

A quick search at my library shows 16 titles (including Stray Dogs) and another quick search at a public torrent site (i.e. nothing exclusive like Karagarga, of which I'm not even a member of) shows 42 torrents, more than half of them rather well-seeded.

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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2016, 07:26:23 AM »
Of course, pirating is a crime and is not condoned by anybody, anywhere, anywhen.
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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2016, 07:30:45 AM »
Except for high seas pirating, which we all very much condone and indeed, encourage.

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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2016, 07:38:07 AM »
I think you mean space pirating.
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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2016, 07:19:43 PM »
Except for high seas pirating, which we all very much condone and indeed, encourage.

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Re: 1SO does not have enough work yet
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2016, 02:57:01 AM »
I have started a spreadsheet to prepare for an eventual project around writers. Here are all the writers that have contributed to Filmspot-nominated movies, with number of wins out of total nominations in parentheses. Here are both "pure" writers and writer-directors.

Aaron Sorkin (1/3)
Abbas Kiarostami (0/1)
Adam McKay (0/1)
Adrienne Shelly (0/1)
Alex Garland (1/1)
Alexander Payne (0/1)
Amanda Silver (0/1)
Andrés Heinz (0/1)
Andrew Stanton (0/1)
Anne Rosellini (0/1)
Armando Iannucci (1/1)
Asghar Farhadi (1/1)
Brad Bird (0/1)
Bridget O'Connor (1/1)
Charles Randolph (0/1)
Charlie Kaufman (0/1)
Chris Terrio (0/1)
Christian Petzold (0/1)
Christopher Hampton (0/1)
Christopher Nolan (0/2)
Cristian Mungiu (0/1)
Damien Chazelle (0/1)
Dan Gilroy (0/1)
David Magee (0/1)
David O. Russell (0/1)
David Seidler (0/1)
Debra Granik (0/1)
Destin Cretton (0/1)
Diablo Cody (1/1)
Don Hertzfeldt (0/1)
Drew Goddard (1/2)
Edgar Wright (0/1)
Efthymis Filippou (1/1)
Ethan Coen (0/4)
Ethan Hawke (1/1)
Gillian Flynn (0/1)
Giorgos Lanthimos (1/1)
Greta Gerwig (0/1)
Gus Van Sant (0/1)
Harun Farocki (0/1)
Hayao Miyazaki (0/1)
Henry Selick (0/1)
Hossein Amini (0/1)
James Vanderbilt (0/1)
Jeff Nichols (0/1)
Jemaine Clement (0/1)
Jenny Lumet (0/1)
Jesse Armstrong (1/1)
Jim Rash (0/1)
Jim Reardon (0/1)
Joel Coen (0/4)
John McLaughlin (0/1)
John Michael McDonagh (0/1)
John Patrick Shanley (0/1)
John Ridley (0/1)
Jon Raymond (1/1)
Jonathan Glazer (0/1)
Jonathan Nolan (0/1)
Josh Cooley (0/1)
Josh Singer (0/1)
Joss Whedon (0/1)
Julie Delpy (1/1)
Kelly Reichardt (1/1)
Lisa Cholodenko (0/1)
Mark Bomback (0/1)
Mark Heyman (0/1)
Martin McDonagh (1/1)
Meg LeFauve (0/1)
Michael Arndt (0/1)
Michael Bacall (0/1)
Michael H. Weber (0/2)
Mike Mills (0/1)
Nat Faxon (0/1)
Nathan Parker (0/1)
Nick Hornby (0/1)
Noah Baumbach (0/3)
Oren Moverman (0/1)
Paul Laverty (0/1)
Paul Thomas Anderson (1/3)
Pedro Almodóvar (0/1)
Pete Docter (0/1)
Peter Straughan (1/1)
Phyllis Nagy (0/1)
Quentin Tarantino (1/2)
Rian Johnson (0/2)
Richard Linklater (1/2)
Rick Jaffa (0/1)
Roman Coppola (1/1)
Ronald Harwood (1/1)
Scott Neustadter (0/2)
Shane Carruth (0/1)
Simon Beaufoy (0/1)
Simon Blackwell (1/1)
Spike Jonze (1/2)
Steven Zaillian (0/1)
Stuart Blumberg (0/1)
Taika Waititi (0/1)
Terence Winter (0/1)
Terrence Malick (0/1)
Todd Haynes (0/1)
Tom McCarthy (0/1)
Tony Kushner (1/1)
Tony Roche (1/1)
Tracy Letts (0/1)
Walter Campbell (0/1)
Wes Anderson (2/3)
Woody Allen (0/1)

Not sure this will be useful for anything.
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