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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2017, 07:08:14 PM »
Moana is formulaic in its story, seen it so many times before. Dory is a complete mess of a plot, much more egregious. Dory's virtue is mostly likable characters. Moana has that plus the cultural details and a couple of memorable songs. Advantage Moana.

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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2017, 01:16:52 AM »
Sandy: I think you would love Moana.  A girl seeking to save her community by leaving it?  C'mon.

pix: Maui leaving her in the middle of the ocean fits his character to a T.  Just because he's a narcissistic cad doesn't mean he isn't also likable and watchable and hilarious.   Since she has the entire ocean as her friend, it wasn't like she was in any danger.

1SO: Dory is also pretty similar to Nemo.  But the formula isn't a classic one, just similar enough for us to recognize the beats.  Moana's story is ancient, in our bones.  It resonates in my core.  (Like Kubo, which is also based on ancient tales)
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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2017, 05:49:07 AM »
This all is just an indication to me that you all need to watch Long Way North. It is neither a shambles nor Disney-formulaic. Also Supersandian.
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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2017, 05:55:24 AM »
Well, let's not overhype it either, the narrative is basically a Jules Verne adventure, it's not breaking new ground there. But it is very good.
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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2017, 06:20:49 AM »
I never said it was non-formulaic..
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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2017, 08:03:06 PM »
I think you're going to be bummed at my review, DH.
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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2017, 11:00:59 PM »
Sandy: I think you would love Moana.  A girl seeking to save her community by leaving it?  C'mon.

Well, when you put it that way! :)

I'm sure I'll be buying the movie when it comes out next month, so I promise to give it a go then.

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Re: Animation Education [Moana]
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2017, 11:42:07 PM »
I wish there existed a parallel world where Moana existed as a live-action film, with production values equal to what's on display in our world's animated version. I strongly suspect that the reviews would be drastically different, with the Metacritic score falling from around 80 to closer to 60.

Viewers just aren't nearly as accepting of this kind of slapdash storytelling in a live-action film.
If it was still clearly marketed as a family film it would get the same reviews, just look at The Jungle Book. The expectations are about audience not form. I enjoyed Moana in spite of its issues because I liked the characters, flaws and all, but I understand where you're coming from.

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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2017, 10:34:56 AM »
I think you're going to be bummed at my review, DH.

Do you mean because it's going to be so great I will regret not having written anything about it?
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Re: Animation Education
« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2017, 02:01:42 PM »
That's exactly what I mean.  It is wonderful how you just cut through all the subtlety and get straight to the heart of every sentence, DH. ;)
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