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What are the three best Star Wars movies ?

Episode IV: A New Hope
24 (27.9%)
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
28 (32.6%)
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
12 (14%)
Episode I: The Phantom Menace
0 (0%)
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
1 (1.2%)
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
3 (3.5%)
Episode VII: The Force Awakens
9 (10.5%)
Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
7 (8.1%)
Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
0 (0%)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
2 (2.3%)
Solo: A Star Wars Story
0 (0%)
The Mandalorian
0 (0%)

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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #100 on: December 21, 2017, 12:00:46 PM »
I can't speak yet for the critical lens on Force Awakens, which sharpened immediately following its release but not to the point you're at. I will say it's lesser compared to The Last Jedi, but with JJ returning for the next one I expect the two bookends will be around the same level.

Please God no, JJ has to step up his game.

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You can also read around and find people who talk about The Last Jedi as if it's the film worse than the prequels. (I read about a petition to have it removed from canon, as if they want to pretend the film never happened. People are so stupid sometimes. I wish there would be this much attention to the leaders they elect in the real world.)

Zounds, the things you Americans have to deal with. At worst I can find people who thing SW movies are stupid here.
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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #101 on: December 21, 2017, 12:02:38 PM »
New ranking. I am jumping on the bandwagon. TLJ is the best SW movie since Empire, and might actually be better.

The Empire Strikes Back
The Last Jedi
A New Hope

Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
Attack of the Clones
Rogue One
Revenge of the Sith
The Phantom Menace
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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #102 on: May 28, 2018, 10:13:06 PM »
Episode IV - A New Hope
Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Episode VIII - The Last Jedi

Episode VII - The Force Awakens
Episode VI - Return of the Jedi
Solo

Rogue One
Episode II - Attack of the Clones
Episode I - The Phantom Menace

Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #103 on: May 29, 2018, 03:18:43 AM »
Did I ever ask you why you hate Revenge but not the other two prequels?
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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #104 on: May 29, 2018, 07:47:13 AM »
It was the last chance to learn from the mistakes of the previous two films, but instead Lucas ruined every scene, every new character with bad dialogue or CGI.

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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2018, 01:18:05 PM »
10/10
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back

9/10
Revenge of the Sith

7/10
Return of the Jedi
Solo
The Last Jedi
Attack of the Clones

6/10
Rogue One

4/10
The Force Awakens

3/10
The Phantom Menace

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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2018, 01:20:57 PM »
I don't think I know anyone who likes Revenge that much.
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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2018, 03:49:51 PM »
I don't understand how anyone can actually hate the movie. Bad acting and bad dialogue is a given for most films, but fans act like this is especially a sin when it's Star Wars (despite the vast majority of Star Wars films having bad acting and bad dialogue). The CG? It's just a style. People have a problem with it... when they want to have a problem with it. I don't hear people going after the dogfights in this and the new films, but they're like 90-100% CG. No one had a problem with the pod-racing sequence use of CG. What remains are the scenes when they're walking through the halls, in the many environments, but I'd argue that a lot of that CG is used to underline the artifice of the times, the almost decadent level of living for the Republic and the Jedi, amidst brutal war. Granted, it could have been balanced out a bit more, but I felt it was better balanced in Sith than in the previous two.

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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #108 on: June 11, 2018, 08:35:36 AM »
I like how you go from « hey, you really love that movie a lot more than everyone else » to « why don't you hate it with a fiery passion ? ». But since you address what people hate about the movie...

80% of your paragraph is about CGI and I've never once complained about it. I am not even sure that's one of the main criticisms around here. I do however complain about the writing a lot. Not just the dialogue, the whole thing. In fact, I am critical of the writing in all the SW movies. The dialogue is appalling throughout, Lucas just doesn't understand how people talk. The acting is uneven. III is perhaps the best acted prequel movie and the only person I take issue with is Hayden Christensen.

The real thing that bums me out though is the rest of the writing. RotS is concludes the Darth Vader origin story and it simply cocks it up. Anakin's character arc is pathetic. We get no sense of how the Clone Wars changed him or how he's getting closer to the dark side. His arc in the trilogy basically goes from good kid to not just the men but the women and children too to betraying Mace Windu because of feelings. And even when I say it like this it's actually dumber than it sounds.

There's lots of other problems with the plot but this dwarfs all of them.

And I don't even hate the movie. It's my favourite prequel. I don't understand how anyone can actually love it though.
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Re: Star Wars Holiday Poll
« Reply #109 on: June 11, 2018, 04:54:39 PM »
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