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1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« on: January 18, 2017, 07:14:46 PM »
Features

The Abandoned  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 102 votes)
Adventure  (IMDb: 6.1 rating, 604 votes)
   – 1SO
Along Came Jones  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 1,354 votes)
   – 1SO
Anchors Aweigh  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 6,187 votes)
And Then There Were None  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 9,587 votes)
Angel and Sinner  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 115 votes)
Apology for Murder  (IMDb: 6.2 rating, 94 votes)
   – Jared
Back to Bataan  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 2,813 votes)
   – 1SO
A Bell for Adano  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 477 votes)
The Bells of St. Mary's  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 5,656 votes)
Bewitched  (IMDb: 5.5 rating, 365 votes)
Blithe Spirit  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 3,866 votes)
The Body Snatcher  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 6,265 votes)
Brewster's Millions  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 748 votes)
Brief Encounter  (IMDb: 8.1 rating, 27,224 votes)
   – smirnoff
   – pixote
   – Teproc
Bring on the Girls  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 59 votes)
Bugambilia  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 66 votes)
Caesar and Cleopatra  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 1,903 votes)
Captain Eddie  (IMDb: 6.2 rating, 63 votes)
   – 1SO
Carnival Sunday  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 117 votes)
The Cheaters  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 356 votes)
Children of Paradise  (IMDb: 8.4 rating, 14,860 votes)
   – oldkid
   – Teproc
   – pixote
Christmas in Connecticut  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 5,321 votes)
Circumstantial Evidence  (IMDb: 5.4 rating, 46 votes)
The Clock  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 2,316 votes)
   – 1SO
Club Havana  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 52 votes)
Confidential Agent  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 683 votes)
   – 1SO
Conflict  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 2,213 votes)
The Corn Is Green  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 1,858 votes)
   – 1SO
Cornered  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 1,326 votes)
Counter-Attack  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 227 votes)
Dakota  (IMDb: 6.0 rating, 884 votes)
   – 1SO
Danger Signal  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 477 votes)
Dangerous Intruder  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 17 votes)
Dark Is the Night  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 48 votes)
Dead of Night  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 8,151 votes)
Detour  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 10,279 votes)
Dillinger  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 1,311 votes)
   – 1SO
Divorce  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 211 votes)
Don't Fence Me In  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 169 votes)
   – 1SO
The Enchanted Cottage  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 2,175 votes)
Escape in the Fog  (IMDb: 5.9 rating, 268 votes)
The Falcon in San Francisco  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 384 votes)
Fallen Angel  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 3,243 votes)
Getting Gertie's Garter  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 137 votes)
Guest Wife  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 245 votes)
Hangover Square  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 1,658 votes)
   – pixote
   – oldkid
El hijo desobediente  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 36 votes)
The Horn Blows at Midnight  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 957 votes)
House of Dracula  (IMDb: 5.8 rating, 3,400 votes)
   – Knocked Out Loaded
The House of Fear  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 3,290 votes)
   – Knocked Out Loaded
Humayun  (IMDb: 7.9 rating, 24 votes)
'I Know Where I'm Going!'  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 6,148 votes)
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Isle of the Dead  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 3,020 votes)
Jealousy  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 68 votes)
Johnny Angel  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 633 votes)
Kashchei the Immortal  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 251 votes)
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Kitty  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 533 votes)
La vida en un hilo  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 212 votes)
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The Lady Confesses  (IMDb: 6.1 rating, 196 votes)
Lady on a Train  (IMDb: 7.0 rating, 999 votes)
   – 1SO
The Last Chance  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 217 votes)
Leave Her to Heaven  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 8,171 votes)
   – pixote
Les dames du Bois de Boulogne  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 2,916 votes)
L'espoir  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 208 votes)
The Lost Weekend  (IMDb: 8.0 rating, 26,027 votes)
   – DarkeningHumour
Love Letters  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 1,123 votes)
Masquerade in Mexico  (IMDb: 6.1 rating, 54 votes)
The Men Who Tread on the Tiger's Tail  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 2,457 votes)
Mildred Pierce  (IMDb: 8.0 rating, 16,474 votes)
   – oldkid
   – DarkeningHumour
Murder, He Says  (IMDb: 7.8 rating, 1,404 votes)
My Name Is Julia Ross  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 1,218 votes)
The Naughty Nineties  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 1,464 votes)
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps  (IMDb: 7.9 rating, 146 votes)
Nob Hill  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 191 votes)
Objective, Burma!  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 3,598 votes)
One Day with the Devil  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 175 votes)
Our Vines Have Tender Grapes  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 1,269 votes)
Paris Frills  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 257 votes)
Peach Blossom  (IMDb: 4.8 rating, 8 votes)
Phool  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 5 votes)
The Picture of Dorian Gray  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 9,398 votes)
   – DarkeningHumour
Pillow to Post  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 273 votes)
   – Knocked Out Loaded
Pink String and Sealing Wax  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 214 votes)
Pursuit to Algiers  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 2,502 votes)
   – 1SO
Red Meadows  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 162 votes)
The Return of the Durango Kid  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 96 votes)
Road to Utopia  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 2,673 votes)
Rome, Open City  (IMDb: 8.1 rating, 17,085 votes)
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Rough Riders of Cheyenne  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 65 votes)
A Royal Scandal  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 658 votes)
Salty O'Rourke  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 122 votes)
San Antonio  (IMDb: 6.3 rating, 1,085 votes)
   – 1SO
Sanshiro Sugata, Part Two  (IMDb: 6.1 rating, 1,351 votes)
Scarlet Street  (IMDb: 7.9 rating, 10,315 votes)
   – oldkid
The Seventh Veil  (IMDb: 7.0 rating, 1,090 votes)
   – pixote
She Wouldn't Say Yes  (IMDb: 6.3 rating, 308 votes)
The Southerner  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 1,917 votes)
   – smirnoff
   – 1SO
The Spanish Main  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 1,138 votes)
Spellbound  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 34,062 votes)
   – oldkid
The Spider  (IMDb: 6.2 rating, 46 votes)
State Fair  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 2,855 votes)
Story of G.I. Joe  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 2,326 votes)
The Strange Affair of Uncle Harry  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 857 votes)
Strange Holiday  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 52 votes)
Strange Illusion  (IMDb: 6.3 rating, 626 votes)
The Strange Mr. Gregory  (IMDb: 5.8 rating, 70 votes)
A Tale of Archery at the Sanjusangendo  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 70 votes)
They Were Expendable  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 5,982 votes)
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn  (IMDb: 8.1 rating, 5,564 votes)
   – Sandy
The True Glory  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 278 votes)
   – Jared
Twilight  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 60 votes)
Two O'Clock Courage  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 548 votes)
Two People  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 184 votes)
The Unseen  (IMDb: 6.2 rating, 162 votes)
Vacation from Marriage  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 718 votes)
The Valley of Decision  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 1,358 votes)
A Walk in the Sun  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 2,746 votes)
War Comes to America  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 460 votes)
The Way to the Stars  (IMDb: 7.5 rating, 992 votes)
The Wicked Lady  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 846 votes)
   – Jared
The Woman in Green  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 4,011 votes)
   – Knocked Out Loaded
Wonder Man  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 1,488 votes)
   – 1SO
Yolanda and the Thief  (IMDb: 6.2 rating, 671 votes)

Shorts

African Diary  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 282 votes)
   – 1SO
Ain't That Ducky  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 132 votes)
The Bashful Buzzard  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 316 votes)
Caldonia  (IMDb: -- rating, -- votes)
   – oldkid
Californy er Bust  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 221 votes)
   – 1SO
Canine Casanova  (IMDb: 6.4 rating, 149 votes)
   – 1SO
Canine Patrol  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 154 votes)
   – 1SO
The Clock Watcher  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 289 votes)
   – 1SO
The Cold-Blooded Penguin  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 140 votes)
   – 1SO
Cured Duck  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 313 votes)
   – 1SO
Death Mills  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 219 votes)
A Diary for Timothy  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 505 votes)
   – pixote
Dog Watch  (IMDb: 6.2 rating, 126 votes)
   – 1SO
Donald's Crime  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 450 votes)
   – 1SO
Draftee Daffy  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 501 votes)
Duck Pimples  (IMDb: 7.0 rating, 308 votes)
   – 1SO
The Eyes Have It  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 292 votes)
   – 1SO
Flirty Birdy  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 587 votes)
The Flying Gauchito  (IMDb: 6.8 rating, 122 votes)
   – 1SO
For Better or Nurse  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 40 votes)
   – oldkid
A Gruesome Twosome  (IMDb: 7.0 rating, 332 votes)
   – 1SO
A Gun in His Hand  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 140 votes)
Hare Conditioned  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 595 votes)
   – roujin
Hare Tonic  (IMDb: 8.0 rating, 762 votes)
Hare Trigger  (IMDb: 7.9 rating, 472 votes)
Herr Meets Hare  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 453 votes)
Hockey Homicide  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 411 votes)
   – 1SO
The House I Live In  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 377 votes)
   – oldkid
Jerky Turkey  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 311 votes)
   – 1SO
Le vampire  (IMDb: 6.7 rating, 557 votes)
The Legend of Coyote Rock  (IMDb: 6.6 rating, 157 votes)
   – 1SO
Man’s Pest Friend  (IMDb: 4.8 rating, 5 votes)
   – oldkid
Mess Production  (IMDb: 7.0 rating, 21 votes)
   – oldkid
The Mouse Comes to Dinner  (IMDb: 7.8 rating, 668 votes)
   – pixote
Mouse in Manhattan  (IMDb: 7.9 rating, 924 votes)
   – pixote
   – oldkid
Nasty Quacks  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 275 votes)
No Sail  (IMDb: 6.9 rating, 267 votes)
   – 1SO
Odor-Able Kitty  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 382 votes)
Old Sequoia  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 307 votes)
   – 1SO
Pop-Pie a la Mode  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 37 votes)
   – oldkid
Quiet Please!  (IMDb: 7.8 rating, 1,213 votes)
   – oldkid
San Pietro  (IMDb: 7.0 rating, 1,149 votes)
   – pixote
The Screwy Truant  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 255 votes)
   – 1SO
Shape Ahoy  (IMDb: 7.2 rating, 40 votes)
   – oldkid
The Shooting of Dan McGoo  (IMDb: 7.7 rating, 371 votes)
   – 1SO
Star in the Night  (IMDb: 7.8 rating, 557 votes)
   – 1SO
Swing Shift Cinderella  (IMDb: 7.6 rating, 506 votes)
   – 1SO
Tee for Two  (IMDb: 7.8 rating, 637 votes)
   – pixote
Tiger Trouble  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 349 votes)
   – 1SO
Topaz  (IMDb: 6.5 rating, 41 votes)
Tops in the Big Top  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 40 votes)
   – oldkid
Trap Happy Porky  (IMDb: 7.1 rating, 160 votes)
The Unruly Hare  (IMDb: 7.3 rating, 204 votes)
Watchtower Over Tomorrow  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 144 votes)
Wild and Woolfy  (IMDb: 7.4 rating, 340 votes)
   – 1SO
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 11:35:01 AM by pixote »
I think I'd love how awkward it'd be, or how awkward it should be.

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 07:21:02 PM »
My watchlist, in the approximate order I hope to watch them:

The Seventh Veil
Brief Encounter*
The Battle of San Pietro* [short]
Leave Her to Heaven
Rome, Open City*
A Diary for Timothy* [short]
Kashchey bessmertnyy
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
I Know Where I'm Going!*
Hare Tonic [short]
Hangover Square
Children of Paradise*
Mouse in Manhattan [short]
Falbalas
The Southerner
The Story of G.I. Joe*
Hare Trigger [short]
The Corn Is Green
Objective, Burma!
Angel and Sinner
Blithe Spirit
The Way to the Stars*
Star in the Night [short]
Scarlet Street
The Lost Weekend*
Tee for Two [short]
The Wicked Lady
Spellbound
A Walk in the Sun*
The Mouse Comes to Dinner [short]
Murder, He Says
And Then There Were None*
The Shooting of Dan McGoo [short]
A Bell for Adano
Les dames du Bois de Boulogne
They Were Expendable*
Nasty Quacks [short]
The Body Snatcher
Detour*
Swing Shift Cinderella [short]
Vacation from Marriage
The Enchanted Cottage
Our Vines Have Tender Grapes*
Death Mills [short]
The Picture of Dorian Gray
Hare Conditioned [short]
Hockey Homicide [short]

* = Rewatch

In past Retrospots, I feel like I've focused too much on the really obscure films and ignored the films most likely to be in contention; so this time around, I'm trying to structure my viewing so that it's:

- A popular feature I haven't seen before
- A popular feature I want to revisit
- A short
- A popular feature I haven't seen before
- A popular feature I want to revisit
- A short
- An obscure feature I haven't seen before (the ones above in red)

Looking so forward to this.

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« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 12:38:04 AM by pixote »
I think I'd love how awkward it'd be, or how awkward it should be.

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2017, 08:41:36 PM »

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 09:21:39 PM »
Hare Conditioned (Chuck Jones)

Bugs Bunny seemed kinda off-model throughout, but that's noticeable because the story here just isn't very funny. The ending in particular is basically someone tossing up their hands and saying "let's have everyone kill themselves."

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 09:47:40 PM »
Spellbound
I understand why Mel Brooks was so deeply tempted to make fun of Hitchhock after watching this film.  It is always easy to find a scene or two to mock Hitchcock over.  He sometimes overplays the drama, and the notions are sometimes just silly, even if he makes a good case for it.  But Spellbound has almost nothing to support it as a serious drama.  Sure the performances are fine, but look at the lines they are forced to say, the emotions they are forced to dramatize.  “Women make the greatest psychoanalysts, until they fall in love, and then they make the greatest patients.” Gregory Peck falling ridiculously when the color white appears. The silly Freudian nightmares of amnesia and dreams, perhaps apt to a pop psychology of the 40s but untenable for anyone who has given some decent thought about the human mind.

Then we have poor Ingrid Bergman, playing out this female fantasy of the strong, cold woman who changes overnight to become an irrational, emotional wreck at one sight of Gregory Peck.  I will admit, a young Gregory Peck might throw me into a bit of a tizzy, but probably not a woman who has everything to prove to her colleagues in her chosen field.  The convenient memory, the precisely metaphorical dream, the identity replacement… I laughed at it all, and not just the parts I was supposed to laugh at.  Were it satire, I would appreciate it more.  The direction was fine, the acting was decent, but I think I might very well appreciate High Anxiety more.


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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 10:48:10 PM »
I don't have any 1945 films on my watchlist at the moment. I may reacquaint myself with some Looney Tunes, other than that I'll just be keeping an eye out for intriguing reviews.

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 10:51:22 PM »
Brief Encounter
(David Lean)

Meeting a stranger in a railway station, a woman is tempted to cheat on her husband.


My first film from 1945 as far as I know. I selected it for no other reason than it happened to be the highest rated on this list. As good a place to start as any. I figured in watching films this old I really have no tastes or preferences that apply in terms of being able to pick something that suits me. Who are these actors? Who are these writers and directors? I don't know. Even trusting to a preferred genre seems iffy. Old as these films are I can hardly expect them to possess the qualities that up till now have made me, say, a western fan, or for that matter someone who dislikes noir. For all intents and purposes I'm going in blind... I'm just bringing a bunch of modern baggage.

For a good example of how modern sensibilities can affect an experience with an old film you don't have to look to far. It happened to me watching Brief Encounter. I went in totally blind, so even the central affair, which is the whole subject of the movie, was only unveiled to me at the film's discretion. A woman and a man off in the corner of a diner look to be having a serious conversation. We never hear what they were discussing so quietly because an old lady friend of the woman's barges in and interrupts, and they clearly do not feel it is a topic that can be discussed in front her. From the man and woman's body language you can see they are anxious and put off by this interruption, but also cannot find an appropriate pretense for requesting to be left alone. Eventually the man's train arrives and he has to leave. You can see he wants to give a more intimate farewall to the woman, but in the presence of the old woman he simply pats her shoulder as say goodbye. The woman sits there blankly, while the old woman prattles on. 

All of this sudden tight-lippedness and restraint in front of the acquaintance suggests that this couple does not want their relationship to be broadcast. It might find it's way back to someone. To who? To their spouses you assume, without having to make a great leap. What happens next is where the baggage I spoke of comes in. The woman is overcome with a fainting spell. Her acquaintance gets her some brandy to brace her. Eventually they get on their train together and again the woman appears ill. Ever since the man left she has looked absolutely devastated. All of these events: the serious and difficult discussion the couple appeared to be having; this fainting spell and feeling sick; the reasonable assumption they are having an affair; and the degree of devastation and pain on this womans face... I came to the conclusion that the woman was pregnant. It was especially all these small instances of feeling sick. I thought for sure it was a not so subtle nod to the woman's experiencing "morning sickness". And it was this pregnancy, which would ultimately make her affair known to her husband, or the prospect of lying about whose baby it was, and which nothing could be done about, and the fear of what would happen to the marriage and the child, which must explain just why this woman looked just so sad. I can't emphasize enough how broken hearted she looked. She arrives home eventually, and we see she does indeed have a husband... and kids.

So this is where I stood 10 or 12 minutes into the film... at which point the movie flashes back to the beginning of the story... the origins of this affair. And I was thinking, as anyone would, now we learn how this woman found herself in this mess. And the movie recounts how she met the man, and how their relationship developed. And eventually it works it's way back around to where the film began, and to the man touching her shoulder and saying goodbye. Only now we're seeing it in the context of knowing everything about their relationship up to that point, and why he is saying goodbye forever.  Except something was missing! In all that time, from when they first met to now, they never actually had sex! Which means she's not actually pregnant. And all of this looking absolutely devastated, and feeling sick, and needing brandy, and moping about, and breaking out crying, ALL OF IT was simply about having entertained the idea of cheating on her husband, and having fallen in love with another man, and that man now leaving!


Calm down lady! You didn't even take your jacket off, let alone your clothes. You kissed him, what, twice? I've seen pictures of holocaust survivors that look less haunted than she does over an affair that never was.

So there it is, my modern baggage in play. As a viewer I'm sitting there thinking it's not really a big deal and she's sitting there about to die of heartbreak and shame. My mental trajectory for where this film was going was SOOO much more extreme than where it actually went. Because why? Well, partly because this doesn't qualify as a scandal nowadays. But more than that, because the movie decided to start with the ending. Had the film simply been played straight, I never would've been led astray by her starting out the movie looking mortified and then left to wonder why. 900 years later that editing choice is still used, and it still isn't good. Please stop.

It really effected my experience because it made the whole middle of the film feel really slow. I mean it was slow anyways, but when your expecting it to ramp up to a point it never intends to go to, it feels REALLY slow.

I dunno... I don't think this movie really works very well. I like that it has some voice over narration but again, the bulk of it is up front before the flashback, and would be more emotionally powerful in it's proper place once you have context. In general the idea of hearing the thoughts of someone who is embarking on an affair, and conflicted about it, is compelling. The VO kind of stops once the story begins from the beginning unfortunately. And in the development phase of their relationship, while they are out watching films or rowing boats or drinking tea, it's pretty run of the mill stuff. It establishes a growing chemistry, but I didn't find it entertaining in a vicarious way.

A bumpy start. I suspect it will be hard to find performances that I enjoy from this year... the way people act is so different. I think I'm more likely to appreciate a well-done caricature performance.




1945 Films:

Brief Encounter
« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 12:46:52 AM by smirnoff »

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 11:40:11 PM »
Best review ever!
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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2017, 12:03:52 AM »
That mirrors my experience from many years ago with Brief Encounter. I might get around to rewatching it, but I'm not sure my reaction will be much better.

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Re: 1945 Retrospots: Discovery Project
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2017, 01:43:38 AM »
Best review ever!

I agree with saltine!

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I wish I had been there to see your hacked off look!


um, smirnoff... I'm pretty sure they had sex. But it's 1945 movie sex, so you have to read between the lines. It's been a while since I've seen this, so hopefully someone else can chime in, but I think it's during the bridge scene. Weren't they there for the weekend, or something? My memory of the story is that they consumated their love. How's that for 1940's lingo! :)
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