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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2017, 01:48:58 PM »
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Regardless, most people seem to classify this as Gerwig’s true debut. I could totally be wrong but I always felt like nights and weekends was a nod to just how crucial she was as a collaborator.

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2017, 02:13:37 PM »
I just want to see Lady Bird in 2017.  :-\

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2017, 05:39:04 AM »
I just want to see Lady Bird in 2017.  :-\

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2017, 05:59:19 AM »
As I said in the episode thread for the podcast, I don't think a solitary co-directorial effort should be considered a debut. Two co-directoral efforts=One individual directorial effort seems reasonable.

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2017, 11:22:22 AM »
Joe Swanberg erasure.

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2017, 12:41:30 PM »
I'm curious: If Nights and Weekends had been Swanberg's first movie as well as Gerwig's, would that change the equation? Is the underlying assumption here that she sort of piggybacked on his directorial experiencing for that film and therefore it shouldn't fully count? Or sense that movie itself would have been eligible for the category, no future movie from either director could possibly be eligible as well?

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2017, 06:43:12 PM »
So the rule calculation would be a debut film is the first film to debut that could qualify as a debut film. So Blood Simple is a debut film for both Coen Brothers because neither had a qualifying feature previous but Nights and Weekends isn't a debut film for Gerwig because it isn't eligible due to not being Swanberg's debut, thus leaving Gerwig eligible for best debut in a subsequent venture and oh no, I've gone cross-eyed.

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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2017, 06:01:42 AM »
We're getting in too deep here.
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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2017, 06:18:48 AM »
It is very nitpicky. Then again, Ruben Östlund's Force Majeure passed as a debut regardless of his three previous movies.
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Re: Filmspots 2017: Eligibility Questions
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2017, 07:26:18 AM »
It is very nitpicky. Then again, Ruben Östlund's Force Majeure passed as a debut regardless of his three previous movies.

The Filmspot rule is US debut. His previous features had not screened in theaters in the US, therefore Force Majeure was eligible as a US debut.
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