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What are the best three Planet of the Apes movies?

I disapprove of all this monkey business (don't like any).
1 (3.3%)
How are apes different than monkeys really? (haven't see enough)
3 (10%)
Planet of the Apes (1968)
9 (30%)
Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)
1 (3.3%)
Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971)
1 (3.3%)
Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972)
1 (3.3%)
Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973)
0 (0%)
Planet of the Apes (2001)
0 (0%)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011)
5 (16.7%)
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014)
7 (23.3%)
War for the Planet of the Apes (2017)
1 (3.3%)
Untitled Rebooted Series #4
1 (3.3%)

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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 09:13:27 AM »
More like a sign of a shitty memory. I don't remember it worse than the other movies of that year that I have not rewatched, like Gone Girl, Nightcrawler or Whiplash. It just had a lot more plot and characters. Also, the things I was specifically trying to remember are more elusive than that.
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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2017, 04:00:32 PM »
I finished Dawn without much excitement, I don't think I'll be bothering with War.

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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2017, 05:21:20 AM »
Dawn sounds like a smirnoff movie though, what was the problem?
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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2017, 12:54:04 PM »
Dawn sounds like a smirnoff movie though, what was the problem?

Here's my review and subsequent discussion with Junior (who enjoyed the film), but if it's TLDR the gist of it is that for me the film's focus is too narrow and it stops to tell a story that didn't seem very consequential. My indifference to the story bled into the characters, and as a result I was not invested in the drama.  :-\

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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2017, 05:40:23 AM »
Sounds like your chastising the movie for not being the story you wanted to watch. You wanted to watch the apes actually take over the world and start building a modern simian society and that is not what this series is about. Being more interested in your version is one thing, but your criticisms of the stories the filmmakers make are unfair.

The simian hegemony and the construction of a worldwide society would always take centuries and the trilogy was always meant to be a character arc about a single ape and his small tribe. The movies tell good stories replete of commentary on humanity. The apes have always been mirrors of humanity and spending time with the human characters is just a way of turning the mirror around.

Sure, the story told here is less consequential than the tale of the rise of an empire somewhere in the globe that would conquer an entire continent in Roman fashion. How does that make any movie worse though? Are you saying that that is the level of stakes any movie must meet to matter? Why can Rounders be the story of a single unimportant man but not this movie?
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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2017, 10:17:15 PM »
Because the title says "War" not "Skirmish of the Planet of the Apes".
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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2017, 06:11:47 AM »
All three movies are misnamed. I could easily argue that the War in the title stands for the war being fought by the humans amongst themselves for supremacy as they slaughter each other and leave the planet to the apes. The reality though, is that the title was probably inspired by marketing-thought. I choose to ignore it, as I will Baby Driver, which I assume is not about an actual baby behind the wheel.
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Re: Best Planet of the Apes Movies
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2017, 09:55:29 PM »
I agree.  The titles are the worst things about the films.
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