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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #600 on: November 02, 2019, 09:30:54 PM »
Do you have a top 5 in the genre?

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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #601 on: November 02, 2019, 10:27:24 PM »
Do you have a top 5 in the genre?

My problem with that list is I was getting out of the genre right as I was starting to explore some of it's more ambitious and artistic landmark films. For example, I am not a fan of A Touch of Zen or Come Drink With Me though I will return to them to try and find out why, because I realize they are Essential to the genre. I also prefer the visual imagination of House of Flying Daggers to the overly-artsy stylization of Hero.

If I was building a Top 5 List, I'd start by looking at Jackie Chan and Jet Li films, and by all those measuring sticks I think Drunken Master II would be on top. The action is insane, even by Jackie Chan standards, but also the characters are a great deal of fun. I can't exclude Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000), which is the obvious American choice, but that's with good reason. Eight Diagram Pole Fighter would probably be #3 and I'd have to consider The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, which has a really good story to balance the fight scenes. Much as I like a Top 5 to be the Five Best, I'd feel guilty if Jet Li didn't take a slot, but it'd be a hard choice between...
Fist of Legend (1994)
Tai-Chi Master (1993) (with Michelle Yeoh)
Fong Sai Yuk (1993) (aka. The Legend)

all of these I would put above the more widely known Once Upon a Time in China (1991)


A definite Honorable Mention to Wing Chun (1994), starring Michelle Yeoh.



p.s. If you (or anyone) is thinking about a possible future Marathon, I'd be very happy to revisit these films.
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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #602 on: November 02, 2019, 11:34:35 PM »
Something to think about for Chinese New Year. :)

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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #603 on: November 03, 2019, 09:07:15 AM »
#231 Chia-Liang Liu Ranked List

When I was young, karate films fascinated me. I didn't notice the filmmaking or learn the culture proper by calling them Martial Arts or Wuxia. They were dubbed and silly and dazzling. It was during my time here that I learned about Chia-Liang Liu and films like Eight Diagram Pole Fighter, which I loved even though I was fast losing interest in the genre.

20 years ago, I would've spent more time here filling in blind spots, but now I'm just planning to watch one or two.
Dirty Ho (1976)
Heroes of the East (1978)
Mad Monkey Kung Fu (1979)
Return to the 36th Chamber (1980)

That 1976 date for Dirty Ho is definitely wrong. It should be 1979. Don't know why imdb has the wrong year for it.
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1SO vs. All the Directors - Martin Scorsese
« Reply #604 on: November 08, 2019, 11:29:48 PM »
I've watched two by Chia-Liang Liu and am choosing one more. After that, I'm itching to go back and rewatch a number of films by Martin Scorsese (Director #9).

Who's That Knocking at My Door (1967)
Mean Streets (1973)
New York, New York (1977)
The King of Comedy (1982)
New York Stories (1989) - just his segment
Casino (1995)
Bringing Out the Dead (1999) - maybe
Gangs of New York (2002)
The Aviator (2004)
The Departed (2006)
The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)
Silence (I) (2016)
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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #605 on: November 09, 2019, 10:04:20 PM »
Looking forward to reading about all that.

How'd you like Bringing Out The Dead, or do you remember it at all?

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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #606 on: November 09, 2019, 10:24:10 PM »
It's a rare case where I thought Scorsese was all over the place, going from intense social drama to absurd satire. It had all his thumbprints but lacked his focus.
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Re: 1SO vs. All the Directors
« Reply #607 on: November 09, 2019, 10:53:47 PM »
At this point I'd be more inclined to rewatch it to see Nic Cage working with a good director. It's been so long since that's happened. Now he makes 37 films a year nobody cares about.

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1SO vs. All the Directors - Chang Cheh
« Reply #608 on: December 13, 2019, 12:10:53 AM »
#232 Chang Cheh Ranked List

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If Lau Kar-Leung is the John Ford of kung fu films, ... then Chang Cheh is the Sam Peckinpah.

Well put. As the thread shows, I watched Cheh's films with sdedalus' guidance five years ago. I've also seen Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires, which CC co-directed, but he seems to receive little credit for that work.

As with Chia-Liang Liu, there are a number of possibilities, but I don't want to over-indulge my limited appreciation for Wuxia cinema.
Golden Swallow (1968) - The highest ranked film on sdedalus' list
Five Element Ninjas (1982) - The ICM/IMDB pick
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