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DarkeningHumour

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Re: It
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2017, 05:14:42 AM »
I don't know of anyone in my life having read the book. I don't know what its public is in the US, but It, as a cultural object, be it on paper form or on the screen, is not part of the cultural conversation in any place I've lived in. In fact, Stephen King as a whole, as far as I've seen, is pretty much ignored, with some odd exceptions like Kubrick's Shining.

I had to google the gangbang scene. It is amazing to me that anyone would ever write that into a book about children, whatever the underlining themes. Was King already doing coke at this time? Was this sort of thing more palatable when the book was published?

One of the articles I read on the subject talked more broadly about Bev and some of the things it said were baffling to me. I agree that the damsel in distress thing is unfortunate, especially given that it doesn't play that way in the book and the previous script for the movie. Aside from that though, her character was solid. She's a strong kid dealing with her burgeoning sexuality and when her father oggles her the movie is clearly calling him a creep. It seemed to me the writer couldn't make the distinction between a character with sexuality and a character reduced to her sexuality. (Also, does someone really have to connect the dots for you in that bathroom blood scene?)
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Re: It
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 12:56:25 AM »
The screeplay from the final act of the film:

"Okay guys let's all go in together"
2 seconds pass
"Uh guys, where's Ritchie?"
"RITCHIE!"
"RITCHIE WHERE ARE YOU!"
Ritchie has an ordeal, then they find Ritchie.
"Ritchie are you okay?"
"Yea"
"Okay lets keep going"
"Uh guys, where's Ben?"
"BEN!"
"BEN WHERE ARE YOU!"
Ben has an ordeal, then they find Ben.
"Okay lets keep going"
"Ugh guys where's Bev?"
and so on.

I swear to god, that kid with all the pills says "Uh guys... where's so-and-so" like four times in 10 minutes!

I would say that was the only thing that bothered me... how quickly, easily, and frequently they would get separated. Like god damn, a giant clown face just jumped out of a projector and almost ate you, and you're going to wander off from your group in a spooky house? It got to the point where I felt like it needed to be addressed. Like a character should've blurted out something in frustration over it. But because the film didn't acknowledge it, it made it seem like the writers, and by extension the characters, were unaware of the pattern... which is why I look at it as a weak point. It didn't pull me right out , but it was there. And seemed so easy to fix.

God damn there's some scares in this. I had many heart attacks. The arms on my sofa are permanently misshapen. Knowing a thing was coming did not help, because you didn't know how it would look. And it was always unnerving, if not downright terrifying. I mean the way Pennywise ran at people... fffffffffffffffffuuuuuu. And Pennywise himself... that was some Ledger-Joker-esque level stuff, in terms of being wild and unsettling and yet not being able to look away. That was like a new level of menacing for me. I don't have a thing about clowns, which is why I was brave enough to watch this, but if you did RIP.

This wins for knowing how to make things move in creepy ways. And those close calls... I would just shake my head for like a minute afterwards. Too intense. This is some movie... some story! I didn't know and IT stuff before watching it.

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Re: It
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2017, 03:21:30 AM »
I found that the first Pennywise scene was the only one where Skarsgard got to actually act and be unsettling without use of CGI. None of the later scenes match what he does with his inflection there.

Also, I recently watched clips of the miniseries, and I don't like Tim Curry's performance at all. I don't find him creepy or even unusual in the least. He's just doing a deep, grating voice.
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