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Who do you like best?

De Niro Scorsese
17 (94.4%)
DiCaprio Scorsese
1 (5.6%)
I am Irish (don't like either).
0 (0%)

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Author Topic: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses  (Read 295 times)

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Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« on: September 15, 2017, 05:27:53 AM »
I wonder if I'll spot a generational thing here.
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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2017, 07:29:30 AM »
If DiCaprio had the Ray Liotta part in Goodfellas this would've been a lot tougher.

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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 07:30:50 AM »
I went De Nero, but a big part of me is tempted to put DiCaprio.

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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 07:42:53 AM »
My gut said DiCaprio out of my love for The Aviator, but after taking a second...

Going by performances. De Niro has Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The King of Comedy and Cape Fear. Although he is excellent in Goodfellas and Casino, I think of those as better movies on the whole as opposed to De Niro giving a strong performance. He's great in them, but in the others there is more a sense of how he carries the movie as opposed to being a cog (even though he is the main character in Casino). His performances in the four I mentioned would garner him top 5 of the year, while he probably wouldn't make the top 10 for Goodfellas/Casino.

DiCaprio has The Aviator, Shutter Island and The Wolf of Wall Street. What I said about De Niro in Goodfellas/Casino kind of applies for how I see DiCaprio in Gangs of New York/The Departed. So that's 4 movies versus 3. If I try to rank them by performance...

1. Raging Bull
2. Taxi Driver
3. The Aviator
4. The King of Comedy
5. Cape Fear
6. The Wolf of Wall Street
7. Shutter Island
8. The Departed
9. Gangs of New York
10. Casino
11. Goodfellas

By movie...

1. Raging Bull
2. Taxi Driver
3. The Aviator
4. Goodfellas
5. The Wolf of Wall Street
6. Shutter Island
7. The King of Comedy
8. The Departed
9. Cape Fear
10. Gangs of New York
11. Casino

And maybe that's a generational thing where I am responding more to DiCaprio's recent body of work and seeing his movies in a theater with no preconceptions.

The film history lover who respects their influence wants to give it to De Niro, but my gut and how I feel tells me DiCaprio. And yet De Niro ranks higher on both lists... so I guess I gotta go with De Niro if only because the Raging/Taxi combo goes higher than The Aviator.

Damn you, DH!!! I thought this would be an easy morning and now I'm overanalyzing with lists.

EDIT: Forgot about New York, New York.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2017, 08:54:09 AM by StudentOFilm »
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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 08:36:55 AM »
RDN 1. Goodfellas
RDN 2. Taxi Driver

LDC 3. The Departed
RDN 4. The King of Comedy
LDC 7. The Aviator
RDN 8. Mean Streets
RDN 10. Raging Bull
LDC 11. Shutter Island

RDN 12. Casino
RDN 14. Cape Fear

LDC 16. The Wolf of Wall Street
LDC 17. Gangs of New York
RDN 19. New York, New York


Definitely DeNiro for me, but Leo's got some great stuff in there too.

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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2017, 09:28:30 AM »
To clarify something I did not think about before reading Student's post:

I meant that the movies should be pitted against each other. Not the actors or their performances. Then again, everybody is free to do their own thing. I am open minded that way. No, really, I am. Truly.
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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2017, 10:01:56 AM »
I took it to mean performances, but sometimes I find myself liking a performance more if I like the movie more (i.e. De Niro in Goodfellas or DiCaprio in The Departed).
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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 01:25:34 PM »
De Niro and Scorsese grew to epic heights together. A true collaboration with each pushing the other to be better. By the time DiCaprio came along Scorsese was a master director guiding Leo, but I can't point to a single thing Leo gave back except for box office clout, the ability to finance more expensive projects.

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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 05:39:16 AM »
I wonder if I'll spot a generational thing here.

Nah.

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Re: Scorsese vs. Scorsese: Battle of the Muses
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2017, 12:29:06 PM »
I feel very alone in my little corner.
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