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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #90 on: December 24, 2017, 02:15:05 PM »
Preach!

I echo everything SB said.

Child slaves are bad but it's okay because we rescued those cute animals! It's a kind of emotional manipulation that tries to keep from making the audience too uncomfortable and I'm sorry but if you want Star Wars to grow up, there needs to be uncomfortable moments that don't get undercut by self-aware movie humor.

I have the same quibbles, but this movie is SW moving in the right direction. Hopefully, Abrams doesn't drop the ball and is able to nurture Johnson's seeds into something large and green and floral that makes this metaphor work. TLJ brings complexity to SW in multiple ways, the social commentary is just one of them. There is also the existence of ambiguous characters, force users and norms, meaningful character arcs, etc. The criticism of the weapons industry does not land, but that is not true of all of Johnson's gambits.
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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #91 on: December 24, 2017, 02:19:38 PM »
I wanted to love this film so much and the farther away I get from it, the more problems I have with the film. Maybe after the holidays I'll go to an IMAX screening alone and see if I feel differently.

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2017, 02:26:19 PM »
I didn't find the images much better at my IMAX screening, although the 3D did make movement annoyingly blurry.
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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #93 on: December 27, 2017, 06:35:15 PM »
I liked the casino scene because at this particular point in time I need to see rich people get their shit tore up.

Anyway, I am shipping:
Kylo Ren and Rey
Kylo Ren and Hux
Rey and Finn
Finn and Rose
Finn and Poe
Holdo and Leia
Chewy and a Porg

Basically the world of Star Wars is one big polycule.

Anyway, I have more thinking to do about this film. My first instinct is that I liked it, but less than TFA or Rogue One. I like some of the ideas the film is going toward but am not sure it entirely gets there.

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #94 on: December 28, 2017, 11:30:34 AM »
In the confrontation with Snoke, when he moves Rey around I thought the way he did it looked familiar, but couldn't quite put my finger on where I'd seen it before. I remember now ! It's exactly what Yubaba does to Sen (soon to become Chihiro) in Spirited Away. Neat.

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2017, 03:26:52 AM »
Rey's parents need booze money but can afford space flight.

I missed something along the way if anyone wants to straighten me out.

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2017, 06:01:18 AM »
Oh, a magical kid, a broom and his two friends. I just got it. Duh.

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2017, 11:04:18 AM »
Maybe I am just a big snowflake but I really got good guy death fatigue in this movie. I realize all the previous films have a scene or two where the minor Rebel characters are getting picked off one by one, but damn, it really felt like it was happening the whole runtime in this movie. The bombing run at the beginning, the evacuation ships, the landspeeder fight, etc. I felt a lot the same way about Rouge One.

I know it is called Star Wars and all, but I don't love feeling so much more "war" and so much less adventure if that makes sense.   

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #98 on: December 30, 2017, 12:31:42 AM »
Lots of great points on here. Personally I've learned to go into a Star Wars film not expecting ESB. It's really difficult to capture the excitement of those original films and the luster of their newness to cinema. Any SW film going forward will be divisive. If that's the case, then I'll just watch them as a fan instead of a critic.

However, I was happy to see Yoda. I'm glad we didn't get the prequel Yoda, but the Yoda we knew from ESB. Brought some warmth to my chest.

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Re: The Last Jedi
« Reply #99 on: January 09, 2018, 12:09:56 AM »
This was a real mess.  I will rewatch the original trilogy but I don't think I need to see more going forward.