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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2007, 09:02:00 PM »
I do have to admit I love Starship Troopers.  Just something cool about exploding giant bugs! 
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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2007, 10:42:23 PM »
Hey, we spawned a new thread!

I hope we can EARN THIS!!!
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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2007, 10:54:22 PM »
Hey, we spawned a new thread!

I hope we can EARN THIS!!!
Sdedalus, I just gave a heads-up to Adam.  He may feature it in the Dope Sheet; he might not.  I have no control over that.  However, since all eyes are on you,  (You are the one spewing all the delicious bile.) I thought you might want to write a 10-point, organized rant against Saving Private Ryan.

To anyone that would like to write a counter-rant, this is a challenge to you as well.

Yes, I'm inciting violence.  I won't be happy until I see pictures of actual bloodshed.

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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2007, 11:07:25 PM »
Damn that's a challenge.  If you can't already tell, SPR puts me in an incoherent place.  But I may be able to write something over the next couple of days.

If the wife succeeds in bringing home some gin, it'll be a lot more likely.
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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2007, 11:35:48 PM »
Here's Jonathan Rosenbaum's review of SPR.  He doesn't quite capture the extent of my visceral hatred, though:

Saving Private Ryan
Capsule by Jonathan Rosenbaum
From the Chicago Reader

Steven Spielberg's 1998 exercise in Oscar-mongering is a compilation of effects and impressions from all the war movies he's ever seen, decked out with precise instructions about what to think in Robert Rodat's script and how to feel in John Williams's hokey music. There's something here for everybody--war is hell (Sam Fuller), war is father figures (Oliver Stone), war is absurd (David Lean, Stanley Kubrick), war is necessary (John Ford), war is surreal (Francis Coppola), war is exciting (Robert Aldrich), war is upsetting (all of the preceding and Lewis Milestone), war is uplifting (ditto)--and nothing that suggests an independent vision, unless you count seeing more limbs blown off than usual (the visceral opening sequence, showing Omaha Beach on June 6, 1944) or someone getting graphically shot underwater. The story is about a squad trying to find and send home a private whose three older brothers have already been killed in World War II; it's a mission ordered by General George C. Marshall (backed by the authority of Abraham Lincoln, who's backed in turn by Spielberg) and executed by Tom Hanks, a captain named John instead of Joe. It has a few pretty good action moments (including a climax straight out of the Indiana Jones trilogy), a lot of spilled guts, a few moments of drama that don't seem phony or hollow, some fairly strained period ambience, and a bit of sentimental morphing that reminds me of Forrest Gump; it also lasts the better part of three hours. With Tom Sizemore, Matt Damon, Edward Burns, Jeremy Davies, Vin Diesel, Adam Goldberg, and Barry Pepper. R.

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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2007, 12:34:28 AM »
Pearl Harbor, I admit, was a close call.  They're equally inane scriptwise, but Pearl harbor isn't quite as insulting and is a much better, more distinctive looking film.
??? Like the part where Hartnet and Affleck play chicken with the Japanese?  Thats less insulting than a dude shooting a prisoner?  How about the recyleing of every war movie cliche in the book... blatently?  That's less insulting?  At the very least SPR is willing to just own up to the fact that its fiction, Pearl Harbor just goes ahead and bastardized real historical figures like Doris Miller and James Doolittle.  Oh I almost forgot the scene where FDR stands up to inspire his cabinet, that is 1000 times worse than those bookending SPR scenes.  Sorry dude, I can tolerate a little anti SPR smack talk, but saying Pearl Harbor is better is ludicrous.  SPR puts Pearl Harbor to shame.
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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2007, 12:37:21 AM »
BTW, Starship Troopers was pretty awesome
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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2007, 01:04:28 AM »
The guy shooting the prisoner is perhaps the most insulting non-Birth Of A Nation film moment I've ever seen.

But yeah, Pearl Harbor's script is totally inane.  But it's a great looking movie.  Unlike SPR, which is nothing but a handheld camera and a lot of mud.

So I went out and rented SPR.  With that and a little rum (the wife failed to acquire gin) I should be able to whip something up.
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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2007, 06:37:20 AM »
Dude, I said you MIGHT get noticed.  Don't go to so much trouble.

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Re: War Movie Talk as Brought on by Spidey 3
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2007, 08:40:21 AM »
Go for it, sean. I always love reading what you write.  End of Cinema is great.  Show 'em what you've got!
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