Author Topic: 1990s US Bracket: Verdicts  (Read 712548 times)

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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #180 on: March 17, 2008, 03:10:58 PM »
It's not to say it makes his films bad, however, it leaves his films, particularly RD, with moments that fall a bit flat as they over-reference to the degree that they become generic.

I see that more with Kill Bill than with Resevoir Dogs.  Can you provide an example from the latter?

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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #181 on: March 17, 2008, 03:11:56 PM »
Well, let's hope it gets resurrected and assigned to you in the next round!

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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #182 on: March 17, 2008, 11:50:02 PM »
If it doesn't, I'll maybe try to deal with it myself.
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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #183 on: March 18, 2008, 03:34:56 AM »
It's not to say it makes his films bad, however, it leaves his films, particularly RD, with moments that fall a bit flat as they over-reference to the degree that they become generic.

I see that more with Kill Bill than with Resevoir Dogs.  Can you provide an example from the latter?

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The end of RD is ripped pretty much straight from Ringo Lam's City On Fire, for one.
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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #184 on: March 18, 2008, 03:39:26 AM »
It's not to say it makes his films bad, however, it leaves his films, particularly RD, with moments that fall a bit flat as they over-reference to the degree that they become generic.

I see that more with Kill Bill than with Resevoir Dogs.  Can you provide an example from the latter?

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The end of RD is ripped pretty much straight from Ringo Lam's City On Fire, for one.
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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #185 on: March 18, 2008, 03:43:51 AM »
No problem.

Reservoir Dogs is much, much better than Lam's film, by the way.
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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #186 on: March 18, 2008, 04:27:25 AM »
No problem.

Reservoir Dogs is much, much better than Lam's film, by the way.
That may be, but it's not better than van Sant's film.
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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #187 on: March 18, 2008, 10:18:53 AM »
The end of RD is ripped pretty much straight from Ringo Lam's City On Fire, for one.
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Is that an example of over-reference that makes the moment generic?  Or just an example of a Hawksian homage/borrowing/theft that works?

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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #188 on: March 18, 2008, 11:27:45 AM »
No problem.

Reservoir Dogs is much, much better than Lam's film, by the way.
That may be, but it's not better than van Sant's film.

I might agree with that.  But Pulp Fiction is definitely better than Clerks.

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Re: 1990s US Bracket commentary
« Reply #189 on: March 18, 2008, 01:09:12 PM »
i don't think so :)
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