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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #640 on: April 21, 2010, 11:47:27 AM »
the full stop ... the inverted commas

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #641 on: April 21, 2010, 11:49:23 AM »
the full stop ... the inverted commas

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #642 on: April 21, 2010, 12:56:23 PM »
Periods and commas go inside; colons and semi-colons go outside; and question marks and exclamation points go inside or outside, depending on whether or not they are part of the quotation.

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I had no idea that this was the way it is done in the US. We seem to be handling this like the British, i.e. all puntuation outside, unless it is an integral part of the quotation.

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(If you say: According to Sally, "the end is near.", aren't you implying that Sally's sentence ended there, too? Could she have said "The end is near and we are all doomed"?  Sorry if all this punctuation is confusing!)

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #643 on: April 21, 2010, 01:11:34 PM »
(If you say: According to Sally, "the end is near.", aren't you implying that Sally's sentence ended there, too?
Yes.

Could she have said "The end is near, and we are all doomed"? 
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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #644 on: April 21, 2010, 10:26:41 PM »
Which is correct?

The context is I am saying they use poker as a simpler model for the real world.

"The random nature and hidden information in poker make it both difficult to solve and valuable as an analog to the real world."

"The random nature and hidden information in poker make it both difficult to solve and valuable as an analogy to the real world."

Analog or Analogy?

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #645 on: April 21, 2010, 10:33:58 PM »
Analog doesn't make sense to me, I think you want analogy. Or perhaps analogous, as in "...difficult to solve and analogous to the real world."
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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #646 on: April 22, 2010, 12:02:39 AM »
In that context analog means having analogy, so I think it's basically the same thing.

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #647 on: April 22, 2010, 12:05:49 AM »
My thinking is it should be analog. Analogy is used in literary contexts, while analog is used in scientific contexts.

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #648 on: April 22, 2010, 02:57:45 AM »
I know this is dissenting, but I'd put the fullstop outside the quotation marks, as a rule. The exception is where the punctuation is a part of the quote. If I've ended a sentence with a quote, I'd put the fullstop outside. I'm not saying this is correct, but I prefer it wholly.

Similarly, if I put something in parentheses at the end of the sentence, the fullstop goes outside the parentheses, not inside. Only if I put the whole sentence in parentheses, do I put the fullstop inside. I've no idea how correct this is, but it seems more logical to me, and I prefer how it looks.

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Re: Words and Grammar and Stuff
« Reply #649 on: April 22, 2010, 06:40:20 AM »
Which is correct?

The context is I am saying they use poker as a simpler model for the real world.

"The random nature and hidden information in poker make it both difficult to solve and valuable as an analog to the real world."

"The random nature and hidden information in poker make it both difficult to solve and valuable as an analogy to the real world."

Analog or Analogy?

There are far more concerning things about this sentence than the grammar. ;)
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