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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1600 on: December 03, 2009, 02:25:50 PM »
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I actually consider a lot of movies to be life-changing! I take them to my heart and they melt into my personality.

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1601 on: December 03, 2009, 02:29:57 PM »

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1602 on: December 03, 2009, 02:31:22 PM »
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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1603 on: December 03, 2009, 02:55:22 PM »
I love smileys, but I love words.

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1604 on: December 03, 2009, 09:47:13 PM »
Aren't language's constant changes and versatility really the beauty of it though?

There are two ways of looking at "correct" language: the grammarian's and the linguist's.  The grammarian's approach is to say that there are a standard set of rules that everyone needs to follow and any exception to these rules are improper and reasonable to be irritated at.

The linguist's approach recognizes rules, but understands that they are flexible.  Language changes all the time, and whatever is most popularly used IS the proper use in that context.  That there are different contexts for a particular language and what may be acceptable in an oral context might not be acceptable in written, or what is acceptable in a journal article might not work in a personal essay.

I, and I suppose FLY, take a more linguistic stance.  The spelling of "door jamb" could be changing, and "door jam" is neither better nor worse, just different.  An older spelling of "door jamb" is "door jambe", but no one complains about that change. 

I suppose if the gammarians want to complain about the popular "misuse" of language, that's up to them (my wife is one of those, and it is a common unheated argument we have).  But I choose to complain about people who think that the popular notion of language is the wrong one.

One of the things I like is the history of a word and how a word reflects that.  Jamb comes from "jambe" which was an archaic word for leg and was also a word for the part of a suit of armor that braces and ptrotects the leg from the knee to the foot.  Thus the transfer of it into using it for a door frame is obvious, it's the "legs" of a doorframe.  "Door jam" has no soul or history to it.

Plus nowadays "jamb" means only one thing, the frame ofa door.  But "door jam" could mean several things--the door frame, something blocking or filling the doorway or keeping a door from opening.

Well I guess I'm just a grammarian then.  Probably comes from my history of being in spelling bees.  Try telling those judges that "jam" is an okay spelling because everybody does it.

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1605 on: December 03, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »
Jambe is the French word for leg.
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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1606 on: December 03, 2009, 10:00:39 PM »
When people don't post enough before I go to bed!  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1607 on: December 03, 2009, 10:01:08 PM »
All the posting is happening in chat, duh.

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1608 on: December 03, 2009, 10:03:44 PM »
All the posting is happening in chat, duh.

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Re: Pet Peeves
« Reply #1609 on: December 03, 2009, 10:12:53 PM »
When people write "chester drawers" in a police report when they mean "chest of drawers".