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Re: Filmspotters Top 100 Movies Comments
« Reply #780 on: June 03, 2009, 02:05:56 PM »
It will be a larger ballot, just trying to work out a fair split for top 20 then I'll just expand it for top 100

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Re: Filmspotters Top 100 Movies Comments
« Reply #781 on: June 03, 2009, 04:50:14 PM »
What about a vote to determine what the 100 movies are, based purely on quantity of votes (no ranking involved).

THEN, once we have the 100, we take a break (whatever is applicable...probably 3 months or so) and people can fill in their blanks among said 100. After that we take another vote, with rankings, and with the only options being the 100 remaining films. Perhaps in this vote you would get 100 points to spread among the movies, with a 15 point maximum per movie, or something like that.

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Re: Filmspotters Top 100 Movies Comments
« Reply #782 on: June 03, 2009, 04:56:04 PM »
What about a vote to determine what the 100 movies are, based purely on quantity of votes (no ranking involved).

THEN, once we have the 100, we take a break (whatever is applicable...probably 3 months or so) and people can fill in their blanks among said 100. After that we take another vote, with rankings, and with the only options being the 100 remaining films. Perhaps in this vote you would get 100 points to spread among the movies, with a 15 point maximum per movie, or something like that.
This kind of proposal would need a vote all its own.
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Re: Filmspotters Top 100 Movies Comments
« Reply #783 on: June 03, 2009, 07:41:55 PM »
What about a vote to determine what the 100 movies are, based purely on quantity of votes (no ranking involved).

THEN, once we have the 100, we take a break (whatever is applicable...probably 3 months or so) and people can fill in their blanks among said 100. After that we take another vote, with rankings, and with the only options being the 100 remaining films. Perhaps in this vote you would get 100 points to spread among the movies, with a 15 point maximum per movie, or something like that.

I was thinking about this, too ... except, on the second ballot, rather than ranking the films, people could just rate all the ones they've seen on a scale of 1-10.  The order of final list would be determined by highest average vote. ... Except that's a lot of work, and a single ballot can probably yield pretty much the same result if we figure out the right point distribution.

To that end, here's what last year's list would have looked like using the 1st = 30pts, 2nd = 29pts, ..., 20th = 11 points distribution system I mentioned earlier —which I believe is what frozenhamster used for Top 100 Directors.

I've highlighted the films where the rank would have changed by at least twenty spots. 

1. Casablanca — +0, 16 votes, was ranked #1
2. Seven Samurai, The — +0, 15 votes, was ranked #2
3. Godfather, The — +0, 12 votes, was ranked #3
4. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind — +1, 13 votes, was ranked #5
4. Pulp Fiction — +4, 14 votes, was ranked #8
6. Dr Strangelove — +4, 14 votes, was ranked #10
7. 2001: A Space Odyssey — -3, 12 votes, was ranked #4
8. Citizen Kane — -2, 12 votes, was ranked #6
9. Annie Hall — -2, 12 votes, was ranked #7
10. Raiders Of The Lost Ark — -1, 11 votes, was ranked #9
11. Godfather II, The — +0, 10 votes, was ranked #11
12. Rear Window — +1, 10 votes, was ranked #13
13. 400 Blows, The — -1, 8 votes, was ranked #12
14. Vertigo — +2, 9 votes, was ranked #16
15. Taxi Driver — +2, 9 votes, was ranked #17
15. Psycho — +4, 10 votes, was ranked #19
17. Singin' in the Rain — +1, 9 votes, was ranked #18
18. Clockwork Orange, A — +2, 9 votes, was ranked #20
19. Lost in Translation — -5, 7 votes, was ranked #14
19. Star Wars: A New Hope — -5, 7 votes, was ranked #14
21. Touch of Evil — +1, 9 votes, was ranked #22
22. Big Lebowski, The — -1, 8 votes, was ranked #21
23. Sunset Boulevard — +2, 9 votes, was ranked #25
24. 8.5 — -1, 8 votes, was ranked #23
25. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans — +0, 7 votes, was ranked #25
25. Apocalypse Now — +0, 7 votes, was ranked #25
25. Third Man, The — +5, 8 votes, was ranked #30
28. M — +15, 9 votes, was ranked #43
28. Chinatown — +15, 9 votes, was ranked #43
30. Chungking Express, The — -6, 6 votes, was ranked #24
31. Jaws — +0, 7 votes, was ranked #31
32. Good, The Bad & The Ugly, The — +1, 7 votes, was ranked #33
33. All About Eve — -4, 6 votes, was ranked #29
34. It's A Wonderful Life — -6, 5 votes, was ranked #28
34. Manhattan — -1, 6 votes, was ranked #33
34. Once Upon a Time in the West — -1, 6 votes, was ranked #33
37. Breathless — +6, 7 votes, was ranked #43
38. Bicycle Thief, The  — -1, 6 votes, was ranked #37
39. Days of Heaven — -7, 5 votes, was ranked #32
39. Night of the Hunter — +1, 6 votes, was ranked #40
41. Empire Strikes Back, The — +1, 6 votes, was ranked #42
42. City of God — -6, 5 votes, was ranked #36
42. Die Hard — +1, 6 votes, was ranked #43
44. Amelie — +5, 6 votes, was ranked #49
44. Rashomon — +19, 7 votes, was ranked #63
46. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest — -9, 5 votes, was ranked #37
47. Shawshank Redemption, The — -7, 5 votes, was ranked #40
48. Before Sunrise — +10, 6 votes, was ranked #58
49. Seventh Seal, The  — +0, 5 votes, was ranked #49
50. To Kill A Mockingbird — -11, 4 votes, was ranked #39
51. 12 Angry Men — +3, 5 votes, was ranked #54
51. Raging Bull — +20, 6 votes, was ranked #71
53. Goodfellas — +3, 5 votes, was ranked #56
54. Fight Club — +4, 5 votes, was ranked #58
55. Before Sunset — -8, 4 votes, was ranked #47
55. City Lights — -8, 4 votes, was ranked #47
57. Some Like It Hot — +9, 5 votes, was ranked #66
58. Notorious — -7, 4 votes, was ranked #51
59. All The President's Men — -6, 4 votes, was ranked #53
60. No Country for Old Men — -6, 4 votes, was ranked #54
61. Toy Story — -4, 4 votes, was ranked #57
62. Wild Strawberries — -4, 4 votes, was ranked #58
62. There Will Be Blood — -4, 4 votes, was ranked #58
62. Shaun of the Dead — +13, 5 votes, was ranked #75
65. Princess Mononoke — -2, 4 votes, was ranked #63
66. Graduate, The  — +0, 4 votes, was ranked #66
67. Magnolia — -16, 3 votes, was ranked #51
68. Memento — +18, 5 votes, was ranked #86
69. Trainspotting — +0, 4 votes, was ranked #69
70. Three Colours: Blue — -8, 3 votes, was ranked #62
70. L.A. Confidential — +6, 4 votes, was ranked #76
70. Passion of Joan of Arc, The — +6, 4 votes, was ranked #76
70. Science of Sleep, The — +6, 4 votes, was ranked #76
74. Lawrence of Arabia — -11, 3 votes, was ranked #63
75. Cabaret — -7, 3 votes, was ranked #68
75. Paris, Texas — +11, 4 votes, was ranked #86
77. Y Tu Mama Tambien — -8, 3 votes, was ranked #69
78. High Fidelity — +18, 4 votes, was ranked #96
78. His Girl Friday — +68, 5 votes, was ranked #146
80. Eraserhead — -8, 3 votes, was ranked #72
80. Birds, The — -8, 3 votes, was ranked #72
80. Dark Knight, The — -8, 3 votes, was ranked #72
83. Rushmore — +24, 4 votes, was ranked #107
84. Brazil — -8, 3 votes, was ranked #76
85. Tokyo Story — -5, 3 votes, was ranked #80
85. Red Shoes, The — +33, 4 votes, was ranked #118
85. Blade Runner — +33, 4 votes, was ranked #118
88. Crimes & Misdemenours — -2, 3 votes, was ranked #86
88. North by Northwest — -2, 3 votes, was ranked #86
88. Stalker — -2, 3 votes, was ranked #86
88. Fitzcarraldo — +41, 4 votes, was ranked #129
92. Searchers, The — +0, 3 votes, was ranked #92
92. Nights of Cabiria — +0, 3 votes, was ranked #92
92. Spirited Away — +0, 3 votes, was ranked #92
92. Silence of the Lambs, The  — +0, 3 votes, was ranked #92
96. Wall-E — +0, 3 votes, was ranked #96
96. Almost Famous — +50, 4 votes, was ranked #146
98. Monty Python & The Holy Grail — +1, 3 votes, was ranked #99
98. Network — +1, 3 votes, was ranked #99
98. Bridge on the River Kwai, The — +1, 3 votes, was ranked #99
101. My Own Private Idaho — +3, 3 votes, was ranked #104
102. Unforgiven — +5, 3 votes, was ranked #107
103. Princess Bride — +10, 3 votes, was ranked #113
103. Back To the Future — +10, 3 votes, was ranked #113
103. Hoop Dreams — +10, 3 votes, was ranked #113
103. Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid — +10, 3 votes, was ranked #113
107. All About My Mother — -27, 2 votes, was ranked #80
107. Return of the Jedi — -27, 2 votes, was ranked #80
107. Persona — +11, 3 votes, was ranked #118
110. Monty Python & The Life of Brian — -27, 2 votes, was ranked #83
110. Alien — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #124
110. Barry Lyndon — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #124
113. Usual Suspects, The — -29, 2 votes, was ranked #84
113. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring — -29, 2 votes, was ranked #84
115. Duck Soup — -29, 2 votes, was ranked #86
115. Talk to Her (Habla Con Ella) — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #129
115. Videodrome — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #129
115. This is Spinal Tap — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #129
115. Finding Nemo — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #129
115. Rules of the Game, The — +14, 3 votes, was ranked #129
121. Se7en — +21, 3 votes, was ranked #142
122. Ran — -26, 2 votes, was ranked #96
122. Night of the Living Dead — +24, 3 votes, was ranked #146
124. Amadeus — -25, 2 votes, was ranked #99
124. Shining, The — -25, 2 votes, was ranked #99
124. Breakfast at Tiffany's — +26, 3 votes, was ranked #150
124. Fargo — +26, 3 votes, was ranked #150

As you can see, even without factoring number of votes into the formula, the resulting list is still more or less in order by number of votes.  And the highest a film with just two votes would have finished was #107, compared to last year when that same film finished in the Top 100 at #80 (along with nine other films that received just two votes).

Only one film with four votes (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg) would have missed the cut.  It had 1 16th-place vote, 2 19th-place votes, and 1 20th-place vote.  By comparison, Network, one of the film's tied for the last spot on the list, had just three votes, but one was a 7th-place vote, one was a 10th-place vote, and one was a 15th-place vote.  Comparing those votes, I think it makes sense that Network would make the list and Umbrellas wouldn't, even though Umbrellas received one more total vote.

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Re: Filmspotters Top 100 Movies Comments
« Reply #784 on: June 03, 2009, 09:04:35 PM »
That looks really good pix. A lot of the same films moved around as when I sorted votes then points... so whatever happened it seems effective :)

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« Reply #785 on: June 03, 2009, 10:08:46 PM »
My system is clearly superior due to its raising the scores of Blade Runner, Rushmore AND Vertigo.
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« Reply #786 on: June 03, 2009, 11:49:27 PM »
My system is clearly superior due to its raising the scores of Blade Runner, Rushmore AND Vertigo.
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Re: Filmspotters Top 100 Movies Comments
« Reply #787 on: June 04, 2009, 12:54:26 AM »
I'm certain that almost no film on my list will have the same ranking as last time and that as many as 6 may drop off completely.

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« Reply #788 on: June 04, 2009, 02:10:42 AM »
Ranking was why I didn't turn in a vote last time.

Paralysis through perfectionism?

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« Reply #789 on: June 04, 2009, 08:29:27 AM »
Ranking was why I didn't turn in a vote last time.

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