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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #160 on: November 25, 2008, 06:44:21 PM »
I'm just baffled by how you're using the word 'accurate'.

What's an accurate survey to you?

For example, if a director only gets 5 votes out of 20 entries and somehow winds up on the top 10 then that is inaccurate.

But if those 5 votes are all #1 votes, how would it be inaccurate based on the system that has been set up?

It's about discretion. I can say that at the moment the list seems accurate enough, except that because there are so few entries there are far too many directors tied. And if the number of directors doesn't go higher than 150 is there really a point in doing a second round?

What does discretion have to do with any of this?  If there is a tie, there's a tie.

I've said all along that a top 50 directors with maybe another 25 as "honorable mentions" would probably be more feasible.  150, hell even 100, is quite a bit, especially when I suspect there's a decent amount of overlap between many of the lists.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #161 on: November 25, 2008, 06:50:30 PM »
I can say that at the moment the list seems accurate enough

I'm confused, how are you verifying "accuracy"?
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #162 on: November 25, 2008, 07:13:36 PM »
I can say that at the moment the list seems accurate enough

I'm confused, how are you verifying "accuracy"?

Easy. I look at the list and think about whether or not it appears to properly reflect the entries. I don't understand why I'm constantly attcked on this as though I am biased or want anything but to produce a list that I think everyone will be pleased with. I haven't even done my own top 20 yet to have a bias toward.

And regarding the ties, currently there are ties for a good portion of the directors below rank 50. I think that will clear up as I enter more lists but we'll see.
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #163 on: November 25, 2008, 07:26:18 PM »
I can say that at the moment the list seems accurate enough

I'm confused, how are you verifying "accuracy"?

Easy. I look at the list and think about whether or not it appears to properly reflect the entries. I don't understand why I'm constantly attcked on this as though I am biased or want anything but to produce a list that I think everyone will be pleased with. I haven't even done my own top 20 yet to have a bias toward.

And regarding the ties, currently there are ties for a good portion of the directors below rank 50. I think that will clear up as I enter more lists but we'll see.

I don't think anyone is attacking you, it was just your vague usage of the words "accuracy" and "discretion" without really explaining what you meant.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #164 on: November 25, 2008, 08:17:13 PM »
I can say that at the moment the list seems accurate enough

I'm confused, how are you verifying "accuracy"?

Easy. I look at the list and think about whether or not it appears to properly reflect the entries. I don't understand why I'm constantly attcked on this as though I am biased or want anything but to produce a list that I think everyone will be pleased with. I haven't even done my own top 20 yet to have a bias toward.

And regarding the ties, currently there are ties for a good portion of the directors below rank 50. I think that will clear up as I enter more lists but we'll see.

I didn't mean to attack you and I certainly wasn't accusing you of cooking the books or anything. I was, as usual, just confused.

Even still, when you say that you're going "to look at the list and think about whether or not it appears to properly reflect the entries", it just seems kind of arbitrary.
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #165 on: November 25, 2008, 08:24:04 PM »
I can say that at the moment the list seems accurate enough

I'm confused, how are you verifying "accuracy"?

Easy. I look at the list and think about whether or not it appears to properly reflect the entries. I don't understand why I'm constantly attcked on this as though I am biased or want anything but to produce a list that I think everyone will be pleased with. I haven't even done my own top 20 yet to have a bias toward.

And regarding the ties, currently there are ties for a good portion of the directors below rank 50. I think that will clear up as I enter more lists but we'll see.

I don't think anyone is attacking you, it was just your vague usage of the words "accuracy" and "discretion" without really explaining what you meant.

Was the book list accurate? Why is this so hard to understand. I put forward a seemingly decent way to tabulate the top 100. Nobody liked that, despite that it's not much different from the other lists. Then I agreed that if the results still seem off I'm willing to run a second round. What was the response? People started questioning my judgement about it all. I'll put out the top 100 on tuesday and if people have problems with it they can worry about a second round. I'm beginning to be tired of this.
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #166 on: November 25, 2008, 11:09:25 PM »
I forgot to post mine, so here it is, better late than never...

1.Steven Spielberg
2.Peter Weir
3.John Hughes
4.Hal Ashby
5.David Lean
6.Mike Nichols
7.Billy Wilder
8.Joe Wright
9.John Ford
10.Savage Steve Holland
11.Francis Ford Coppola
12.Alfred Hitchcock
13.Martin Scorsese
14.Stanley Kubrick
15.James Cameron
16.Woody Allen
17.John Boorman
18.Sidney Lumet
19.Sophia Coppola
20.Ted Demme
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #167 on: November 26, 2008, 06:39:02 AM »
Here's my top 20.

1. Ingmar Bergman
2. Martin Scorsese
3. Alfred Hitchcock
4. Steven Spielberg
5. John Ford
6. Coen Brothers
7. Werner Herzog
8. P.T. Anderson
9. Lukas Moodysson
10. Woody Allen
11. Quentin Tarantino
12. David Fincher
13. Christopher Nolan
14. Clint Eastwood
15. Michael Mann
16. Sofia Coppola
17. Steven Soderbergh
18. David Lynch
19. Brad Bird
20. Wes Anderson

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #168 on: November 26, 2008, 12:38:46 PM »
Hey Hamster, don't fret. Ties are OK. A few films in the top 100 only had a couple of votes and that wasn't soo bad, was it?

With Wilson and Schneider and your list and mine (coming today), that should give you a few more votes to play with as well...
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Film Directors: Your Lists
« Reply #169 on: November 26, 2008, 04:28:46 PM »
My top 20 Directors

1.   Stanley Kubrick
2.   Andrei Tarkovsky
3.   Robert Bresson
4.   Preston Sturges
5.   Alfred Hitchcock
6.   Akira Kurosawa
7.   Martin Scorsese
8.   David Lynch
9.   Billy Wilder
10.   Orson Welles
11.   Joel and Ethan Coen
12.   Wong Kar-Wai
13.   Terence Malick
14.   Krystof Kieslowski
15.   Pedro Amaldovar
16.   Frederico Fellini
17.   Chris Marker
18.   Michel Gondry
19.   Terry Gilliam
20.   Francis Ford Coppola


I wish I had time to do cool pictures or rate the films by each one, but you'll just have to take my word for it - these guys rock.

These guys rock too -

Woody Allen
Ingmar Bergman
Paul Verhoeven
Paul Schrader
Howard Hawks
Roman Polanski
Brad Bird
F.W. Murnau
Michael Powell/The Archers
Ang Lee
Hayao Miyazaki
Hal Ashby
Chris Cunningham
Aleksandr Sokurov
David Lean
Andrew Stanton
Fritz Lang
Wes Anderson
David Fincher
Sidney Lumet

 - but you said I was only allowed 20.
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