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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 08:25:31 PM »
Can everyone please list the film first and the actor second?  That is how we post it in the first thread.  Thanks!
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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2009, 03:30:41 AM »
I don't think the deciding factor in deciding whether an actor should be lead or supporting has anything to do with screen time or whether someone else in the movie has a bigger role or anything like that.  It's more just about whether the role is substantial enough to be competitive in the lead category.  If it is, it should go there; if it isn't, then it should go under supporting.

Jackie Earle Haley, for example, should be supporting.

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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2009, 11:29:31 AM »
I don't think the deciding factor in deciding whether an actor should be lead or supporting has anything to do with screen time or whether someone else in the movie has a bigger role or anything like that.  It's more just about whether the role is substantial enough to be competitive in the lead category.  If it is, it should go there; if it isn't, then it should go under supporting.

Jackie Earle Haley, for example, should be supporting.

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I would put him in the lead category for that exact reason. He's the center of the film.
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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2009, 11:40:13 AM »
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Paul Rudd - I Love You, Man (lead)

As far as JEH - I think he's supporting.  There is no leads in this film as its an ensemble piece.  Him being good in his supporting role makes it seem like he's the center of the film but there really isn't one.  Its a great supporting turn.

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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 05:31:34 PM »
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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2009, 05:49:41 PM »
I don't think the deciding factor in deciding whether an actor should be lead or supporting has anything to do with screen time or whether someone else in the movie has a bigger role or anything like that.  It's more just about whether the role is substantial enough to be competitive in the lead category.  If it is, it should go there; if it isn't, then it should go under supporting.

Jackie Earle Haley, for example, should be supporting.

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I would put him in the lead category for that exact reason. He's the center of the film.

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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 06:02:59 PM »
Just speaking for myself: if Watchmen had been a 2008 film, Haley wouldn't have come close to making my Lead Actor ballot.  But he would have had a chance for Supporting.

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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 09:34:34 PM »
Just speaking for myself: if Watchmen had been a 2008 film, Haley wouldn't have come close to making my Lead Actor ballot.  But he would have had a chance for Supporting.

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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2009, 01:12:44 PM »
Just speaking for myself: if Watchmen had been a 2008 film, Haley wouldn't have come close to making my Lead Actor ballot.  But he would have had a chance for Supporting.

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It would have been the opposite for me. He probably would have been third on my actor ballot (behind Rourke, Jenkins and Langella), but he probably would have been just left off my supporting actor list last year (where I had eventual landslide winner Heath Ledger at #5).
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Re: FYC 2009: Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2009, 04:54:34 PM »
I changed Jackie Earle Haley to supporting actor.  I saw Watchmen this weekend and agree with most around here that it is a supporting performance.
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