Author Topic: 90s US Round 5: Glengarry Glen Ross vs. Goodfellas  (Read 30766 times)

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90s US Round 5: Glengarry Glen Ross vs. Goodfellas
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2009, 02:07:15 AM »
Quote from: _Keith_
really? cultural impact complaints from the person who took X and Contact over Gump and Ryan?  While i agree with those two verdicts that argument holds absolutely no water.
I think I'd love how awkward it'd be, or how awkward it should be.

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90s US Round 5: Glengarry Glen Ross vs. Goodfellas
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2009, 02:07:37 AM »
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You take an interesting angle on the films.  You definitely go into a movie looking for something different than I do.  Tarantino talked about "realism movies" which follows the rules of the real world (everything before Kill Bill) and "movie movies" which exist in a world that follows the rules of cinema (everything since).  I think both of these film stories are suited to realism, but crafted as movie movies.  Goodfellas actually succeeds at both levels, deftly bouncing between the two.  Glengarry works well enough as a movie movie, but feels far removed from reality.

It's worth arguing which one has more to say, which one speaks beyond the borders of the frame.  (People magazine panned Goodfellas, comparing it to "staring into a pot of weasels, interesting at first but ultimately without a point.")  I usually just focus on what's in the frame, and that's another reason for choosing Goodfellas.
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90s US Round 5: Glengarry Glen Ross vs. Goodfellas
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2009, 02:07:57 AM »
Seriously, though, the end of Goodfellas is a protacted, mostly pointless mess.

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I think I'd love how awkward it'd be, or how awkward it should be.

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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2009, 02:08:21 AM »
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Seriously, though, the end of Goodfellas is a protacted, mostly pointless mess.

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nah, its just a bender.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2009, 02:08:38 AM »
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Seriously, though, the end of Goodfellas is a protacted, mostly pointless mess.

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protracted: I am not sure what you mean by end? If you are referring to the day scene, then its is not protracted at all. It takes maybe 20 min.

pointless: this is the most important scene in the movie. It shows us Hill's life falling apart. We see the speed at which this is happening and his last ditch efforts to save his life.

Mess: This is one of the best directed scenes in Scorceses catalog. Its fast, frenetic, and really conveys the chaos of Hill's life at the end of his mob career.
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2009, 02:09:28 AM »
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maybe this is more to your liking though?

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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2009, 02:10:29 AM »
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really? cultural impact complaints from the person who took X and Contact over Gump and Ryan?  While i agree with those two verdicts that argument holds absolutely no water.

cute, did you look up my past verdicts or hold them close?

i think you are perhaps missing my point (or more likely, that i made it poorly).  it is not so much about the mere fact of having cultural impact, but what that impact is.  in my Gump verdict, i noted the suffocatingly conservative cultural messages.  for Contact i plugged my nose and passed it on at least liking the fact that science was being challenged by "intangibles" such as love and family while Ryan was merely a pro-war pile of stink trying to orchestrate emotional response (as Spielberg tends to lean too heavily (exclusively?) on).
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2009, 02:11:16 AM »
(as Spielberg tends to lean too heavily (exclusively?) on)

Interesting tease for your own fifth round verdict.  :)

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2009, 02:11:48 AM »
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(as Spielberg tends to lean too heavily (exclusively?) on)

Interesting tease for your own fifth round verdict.  :)

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Guilty as charged,  :-\
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2009, 02:12:39 AM »
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(as Spielberg tends to lean too heavily (exclusively?) on)

Interesting tease for your own fifth round verdict.  :)

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not sure, Schindler is one of the few movies i own  ;D
I think I'd love how awkward it'd be, or how awkward it should be.