Author Topic: Inglourious Basterds  (Read 102078 times)

chardy999

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2009, 06:07:03 AM »
About Bridget leaving her shoe: she was severely injured, so the whereabouts of her shoes would not be a top priority for her at that moment.



Sometimes I get sick and tired with Hitler and WWII being the only thing anyone ever seems to associate with Germany. On first hearing about Tarantino's plan to make a film about Nazi killers, that was my immediate reaction, because I feared it would be little more than sadistic slaughter-porn that didn't bother to make a distinction between Nazis and Germans, and between Germany then and Germany now.

I was positively surprised that the film was quite clearly a revenge fantasy rather and not a depiction of actual history. Will the film help to cement Germans as brutal ex-Nazis in the minds of those non German movie-goers that maybe aren't very much interested in thinking outside the box and looking beyond their own nose? Maybe. Do I mind that? To a certain extent, yes. Do I think IB shouldn't have been made? Hell no, it's a fantastic film.


Bridget should have remembered given all the danger. But anyway why didn't all the basterds check everything when they left. Silly.

You get sick and tired with Hitler and WWII being the only thing anyone ever seems to associate with Germany which is fair enough but this opinion is not that relevant here solely because this is hardly even a WWII film, given its huge departures from history. Your opinion is valid and I agree with it, but it will carry more weight when brought up during a discussion of a WWII film that maintains some semblance of accuracy.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #201 on: August 27, 2009, 06:34:08 AM »
You get sick and tired with Hitler and WWII being the only thing anyone ever seems to associate with Germany which is fair enough but this opinion is not that relevant here solely because this is hardly even a WWII film, given its huge departures from history. Your opinion is valid and I agree with it, but it will carry more weight when brought up during a discussion of a WWII film that maintains some semblance of accuracy.

I am actually agreeing with you (which was maybe not clear enough in my initial post) that many of my thoughts and concerns simply weren't as relevant any more as soon as I realised that we were clearly presented with an alternate, fantastical version of reality.
Actually, my post is less a direct reaction to the film, but rather an attempt at a reaction to Clovis' post in which he speculates if Germans would find the film cathartic as we are "living the Nazi legacy". I'm only trying to clarify (probably more for my own benefit than for anyone else's), how this one German, very personally, experienced the film and where I'm coming from with my reaction.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #202 on: August 27, 2009, 06:44:00 AM »
I think you're making things a bit easy for yourself there, chardy. IB doesn't exist in a historical void, instead it very deliberatly modifies a specific part of history and turns it into a film that hinges on the satisfaction that you get from said modification. I don't know about you (well, actually I do) but I for one find that far more interesting than what most WW2 movies do in terms of recreating history.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #203 on: August 27, 2009, 06:50:48 AM »
You have to go into IB knowing Tarantino is not presenting World War 2. He is only using it to allow you to easily identify villians, heros, etc.. You have to notice that Tarantino is not presenting fact, and the fact that he does kill Hitler at the end represents this fact. He is living inside his own world, a completely created world, and it has no social conventions at all.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #204 on: August 27, 2009, 06:52:36 AM »
Oh one problem I had: why are they using Hugo in the undercover operation when all the Germans know he is a basterd? Even Landa recognises him when surveying the carnage in the pub. Oh and why did Bridget leave her shoe there?

Nono. ONLY Landa recognizes him. He tells the other men about the Basterds. It isn't clear how Landa knows so much other than to say he is damn amazing at his job, and if we don't think he would interrogate each and every one of their swastika-marked survivors, well I simply don't think we are operating on a level of mutual respect.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #205 on: August 27, 2009, 06:55:57 AM »
The guy that gets beaten with a bat by Eli Roth recognizes him too. I think he even says something like "everybody in the SS knows him".
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #206 on: August 27, 2009, 07:26:56 AM »
I think the nazis were to drunk to recognise anybody.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #207 on: August 27, 2009, 07:41:33 AM »
I think you're making things a bit easy for yourself there, chardy. IB doesn't exist in a historical void, instead it very deliberatly modifies a specific part of history and turns it into a film that hinges on the satisfaction that you get from said modification. I don't know about you (well, actually I do) but I for one find that far more interesting than what most WW2 movies do in terms of recreating history.

Mononoke's thinking is more along my lines.

I'm not sure what you think I think, but I would say IB is more interesting than any WWII movie I've seen, but on the other hand I would not classify it as a WWII movie.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #208 on: August 27, 2009, 07:57:53 AM »
I think you're making things a bit easy for yourself there, chardy. IB doesn't exist in a historical void, instead it very deliberatly modifies a specific part of history and turns it into a film that hinges on the satisfaction that you get from said modification. I don't know about you (well, actually I do) but I for one find that far more interesting than what most WW2 movies do in terms of recreating history.

Mononoke's thinking is more along my lines.

I'm not sure what you think I think, but I would say IB is more interesting than any WWII movie I've seen, but on the other hand I would not classify it as a WWII movie.

I'm not sure. I think this is only a world War 2 movie in the simplest of terms i.e. There are nazis, americans, Jews, British, etc.. the weaponry is the same as the period. But this is not a WW2 war movie. This is a Tarantino war movie. He is creating his war.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #209 on: August 27, 2009, 09:02:13 AM »
- OMG, Germans and Austrians were played by Germans and Austrians! The German language used was idiomatic and always translated accurately in the subtitles - what a nice surprise.

The German dialogue was translated by Tom Tykwer.