Author Topic: Top five most offensive movies  (Read 24063 times)

Bill Thompson

  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 17561
  • DOOM!!!!
    • Bill's Movie Emporium
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2009, 08:17:52 AM »
As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List.  

This just sounds wrong to me.

His analogy would be apt if SL had shown Jews gassed, then shot, then hung (still alive), then poisoned, then electrocuted (still alive), then gassed again. All of it with alot of really closeup shots and gore by the buckets full.

Um.  No.  And this offends me.

This is basically what Passion is.

No, it's not. It's a spiritual allegory, it doesn't need to be real or restrained, it is over the top in its use of torture for very specific reasons, reasons that are justified.

I'd have to say Cee-Lo, that I think you are letting your preconceived notions of torture porn and religion guide your judgment of this film. Torture porn is torture porn because the torture usually lacks any purpose within the story or a greater purpose outside of the story. The torture in Passion has a purpose within the story and a much greater purpose outside of the story. As far as Christianity is concerned, Passion ties into the long lived Christian tradition of storytelling, something I already elaborated on. The torture in Passion has depth in a meta sense, in a religious sense, in a storytelling sense and in other ways, it is far removed from pointless torture porn.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2009, 08:30:34 AM by All Work And No Play Makes Jack A Dull Boy »

1SO

  • FAB
  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 36128
  • Marathon Man
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2009, 08:50:10 AM »
Top 5 subjects most likely to hijack a thread.

1. Torture Porn
     1. a.  Passion of the Christ... Is it Torture Porn?
2. Matrix Sequels
3. Any post that allows FLY to bring up Fantasia, Hercules, Pixar or Brad Bird
4. Alien 3
5. The acting talent of Nicholas Cage or Brad Pitt


Holly Harry

  • Elite Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2222
  • Bite my shiny metal...Well, you know.
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2009, 10:16:38 AM »

2. Once Upon a Time in America


Why? I can't wait to see this. Without spoiling it, what's the problem?

(Please say 'length'!)
It's probably the most sickening film I've ever seen. If you really must know scroll over the below:

The film involves a couple of gratuitous rape sequences that made me sick to my stomach



There's one rape scene, and it's not really offensive.
"Political questions, if you go back thousands of years, are ephemeral, not important. History is the same thing over and over again."-Woody Allen.

FLYmeatwad

  • An Acronym
  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 28785
  • I am trying to impress myself. I have yet to do it
    • Processed Grass
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2009, 10:28:54 AM »
White Chicks or any Minstrel Show film(I get it, Minstrel Shows aren't funny, and they're highly offensive.  But I don't watch Soul Man as a white guy and laugh, I'm just as offended by that film.

Both Bamboozled and White Chicks are good.

ferris

  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 10830
  • "Bravo Vincent....Bravo!"
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2009, 10:52:58 AM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. \

I can assure you that this is NOT the foundation of Christian belief.   
"And if thou refuse to let them go, behold, I will smite all thy borders with frogs" - Exodus 8:2 KJV
(switchboard)

Holly Harry

  • Elite Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2222
  • Bite my shiny metal...Well, you know.
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2009, 10:59:59 AM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. \

I can assure you that this is NOT the foundation of Christian belief.  

Yeah, under that theory, all those miracles and stuff sort of get thrown out the window.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2009, 11:02:36 AM by Holly Harry »
"Political questions, if you go back thousands of years, are ephemeral, not important. History is the same thing over and over again."-Woody Allen.

Clovis8

  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 11719
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2009, 11:29:54 AM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. \

I can assure you that this is NOT the foundation of Christian belief.   

I can assure you it is. As mentioned there is an idea of duality to christ but the WHOLE point of the crusifiction is that he was a mortal man giving up his life.

Bill Thompson

  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 17561
  • DOOM!!!!
    • Bill's Movie Emporium
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2009, 11:35:29 AM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. \

I can assure you that this is NOT the foundation of Christian belief.   

I can assure you it is. As mentioned there is an idea of duality to christ but the WHOLE point of the crusifiction is that he was a mortal man giving up his life.

Mortality does not entail humanity, that has long been established throughout history and fiction.

Clovis8

  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 11719
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2009, 11:41:34 AM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. \

I can assure you that this is NOT the foundation of Christian belief.  

I can assure you it is. As mentioned there is an idea of duality to christ but the WHOLE point of the crusifiction is that he was a mortal man giving up his life.

Mortality does not entail humanity, that has long been established throughout history and fiction.

Look guys you are just wrong. The foundational idea of the crucification is that he was a normal mortal man otherwise there was no sacrifice.

Bill Thompson

  • Objectively Awesome
  • ******
  • Posts: 17561
  • DOOM!!!!
    • Bill's Movie Emporium
Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2009, 11:45:31 AM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. \

I can assure you that this is NOT the foundation of Christian belief.  

I can assure you it is. As mentioned there is an idea of duality to christ but the WHOLE point of the crusifiction is that he was a mortal man giving up his life.

Mortality does not entail humanity, that has long been established throughout history and fiction.

Look guys you are just wrong. The foundational idea of the crucification is that he was a normal mortal man otherwise there was no sacrifice.

He sacrificed his life, and once again mortality does not entail humanity. Myth has always functioned on that idea, the ability to create miracles makes one more than human, but it doesn't make them immortal. He still died, his death was still a sacrifice, but that doesn't make him just a man. His rise from the dead coupled with his previous miracles makes this glaringly obvious, so much so that I really don't know how anyone can argue your point.