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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 11:40:08 PM »
The foundation of Christian belief is that Jesus was just a man until he died. Therefore, the film is laughably stupid and actually offensive to the very religious ideals it purports to examine.
Actually, there has been a long running debate over the divinity/humanity of Christ. Most accept a dual definition of him being both at the same time. Others, have more complex views and believe he cannot dilute his divine nature by being human. It most certainly was not foundational as the issue didn't arise until several centuries after Christianity was established.

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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2009, 11:43:36 PM »

2. Once Upon a Time in America


Why? I can't wait to see this. Without spoiling it, what's the problem?

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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2009, 11:44:40 PM »
4. Shawn of the Dead

What did you find offensive about this? (Assuming you mean the actual Shaun Of The Dead and not some awesome remake involving Wallace Shawn.)

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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 11:58:09 PM »
Bill, you very eloquently elaborated on my observation better than I could have, and I thank you for that.

Also, it is important to note that Christians do not believe Christ was just a man.  He was divine, the son of God from his birth, but as a human mortal was subject to the failings of humanity such as temptation, hunger, all of human weakness.  That said, I think I'm one of the few Christians I know that isn't offended by the thought of Christ have had children.  There is evidence to support this, but not a ton, and it doesn't bother me.  I have sat and listened to people argue, and I MEAN argue over this. 

As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List. 
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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2009, 12:02:19 AM »
Bill, you very eloquently elaborated on my observation better than I could have, and I thank you for that.

Also, it is important to note that Christians do not believe Christ was just a man.  He was divine, the son of God from his birth, but as a human mortal was subject to the failings of humanity such as temptation, hunger, all of human weakness.  That said, I think I'm one of the few Christians I know that isn't offended by the thought of Christ have had children.  There is evidence to support this, but not a ton, and it doesn't bother me.  I have sat and listened to people argue, and I MEAN argue over this. 

As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List. 

Read about his pre-Vatican II version of Catholicism and you will have a different view of Gibson's motives.

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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2009, 12:03:07 AM »
As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List. 

This just sounds wrong to me.
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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2009, 12:05:33 AM »
As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List.  

This just sounds wrong to me.

His analogy would be apt if SL had shown Jews gassed, then shot, then hung (still alive), then poisoned, then electrocuted (still alive), then gassed again. All of it with alot of really closeup shots and gore by the buckets full.

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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 12:06:54 AM »
I'm not really offended by movies. I can't think of one really. The ones that are closest are the ones that make me feel cheap, or manipulated. The commercials for Law Abiding Citizen(oh look, his pretty daughter made him a necklace right before she was killed, don't you want blood!) "offend" me more than any movie I've seen in the last couple of years. Maybe the actual movie is different.
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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2009, 12:10:10 AM »
As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List.  

This just sounds wrong to me.

His analogy would be apt if SL had shown Jews gassed, then shot, then hung (still alive), then poisoned, then electrocuted (still alive), then gassed again. All of it with alot of really closeup shots and gore by the buckets full.

Um.  No.  And this offends me.
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Re: Top five most offensive movies
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2009, 12:12:44 AM »
As for the torture porn, I don't think Gibson relished in the flogging at all, I find it something he struggled with, but shows so graphically because he felt he has a responsibility to make a point in the same way I think Spielberg had a responsibility to be so frank with Schindler's List.  

This just sounds wrong to me.

His analogy would be apt if SL had shown Jews gassed, then shot, then hung (still alive), then poisoned, then electrocuted (still alive), then gassed again. All of it with alot of really closeup shots and gore by the buckets full.

Um.  No.  And this offends me.

This is basically what Passion is.