Author Topic: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.  (Read 26738 times)

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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #360 on: February 03, 2010, 02:34:31 PM »
iKeith! has it right.



This argument has no possible end FLY.

Care to wager? I will take THL and you Avatar?

What are we wagering? Also, I want Up in the Air as well, and you can have An Education.

Money what else. :D

$20?

I don't want An Education, it has no chance of winning. I'll take THL you take Avatar.

No.

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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #361 on: February 03, 2010, 02:35:42 PM »
How is There Will Be Blood "clearly" of a superior make? You sound like a National Socialist doctor.

Easy. The actors give better performances, it's a more layered film, the script is perfectly crafted, the score is both noteworthy and unique while still fitting with the film, and the themes are more fleshed out and various than those in No Country.


These are all "clearly" weasel words, but this is a pointless argument anyway.
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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #362 on: February 03, 2010, 02:36:02 PM »
you could split Up In the Air & Precious as well.

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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #363 on: February 03, 2010, 02:36:07 PM »
Money what else. :D
$20?

I don't want An Education, it has no chance of winning. I'll take THL you take Avatar.

I wouldn't make that bet if I were you.
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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #364 on: February 03, 2010, 02:36:19 PM »
My problem is with your use of the word deserving. I go out of my way to say you should be using a different word, as calling The Hurt Locker more deserving and basing that solely on perceived quality while overlooking the accomplishments of Avatar is problematic and belittles part of what makes Avatar so deserving, as well as places an emphasis on the award being completely about quality, which I believe we both agree is not the case. I can see saying it's a better film. I can see saying it should win over Avatar. I may not agree, but I can understand people believing both of those statements. I do not see the case to be made that it is more deserving of the award than Avatar.

Once again FLY, "How can you be so obtuse."

You were the one to bring in the word "deserving". But I took your bait and put it as simply as I could. The most deserving film for the prize of Best Picture of the Year is the film that I consider the BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR. What film is that? Inglourious Basterds. But considering the fight is going to be between The Hurt Locker and Avatar, I have to choose which of those two I consider the BEST FILM. In that case the BEST PICTURE is The Hurt Locker, and so when given only those two films as options, The Hurt Locker is what I would support as the BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR. I consider it more deserving simply because I consider it a better film.

If you want to have an argument over whether a film should also be given the award based on other merits then we can have that debate, but I can tell you I have already won it. You know how? Because the prize isn't called Best Achievement in Filmmaking Overall. It's called Best Picture, and so it should go to the BEST PICTURE (or in this case, the best picture that actually has a shot.)
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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #365 on: February 03, 2010, 02:37:23 PM »
iKeith! has it right.



This argument has no possible end FLY.

Care to wager? I will take THL and you Avatar?

What are we wagering? Also, I want Up in the Air as well, and you can have An Education.

Money what else. :D

$20?

I don't want An Education, it has no chance of winning. I'll take THL you take Avatar.

No.

So then you are just empty talk?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2010, 02:39:54 PM by Clovis8 »

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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #366 on: February 03, 2010, 02:38:06 PM »
I disagree with all those that say Basterds would get nominated under 5 nominee system.  Too unconventional, they wouldn't feel comfortable nominating it.  Avatar would get the Dark knight treatment since its not Oscar bait.  
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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #367 on: February 03, 2010, 02:38:53 PM »
It would have been nominated.
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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #368 on: February 03, 2010, 02:40:46 PM »
IB has (in addition to BP) Director, Supporting Actor, Screenplay, Editing, Cinematography & some techs - it was in no matter what.

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Re: 2009 Awards That Are Not Filmspots.
« Reply #369 on: February 03, 2010, 02:42:22 PM »
IB has (in addition to BP) Director, Supporting Actor, Screenplay, Editing, Cinematography & some techs - it was in no matter what.

Hmmm...  Didn't notice Tarantino cobble together that many nominations.  I guess you are right.

Still wouldn't wager money against Avatar.
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