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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2010, 12:24:06 PM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's not terrible, but it is just okay.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2010, 12:29:43 PM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's not terrible, but it is just okay.

Nah, it's terrible, like it made me ashamed that the Mouse would put such a product out. It's not even high expectations or anything, it's a movie that starts of bad and gets progressively worse, and I am having a hard time remembering why I ever liked it when I first saw it back in 97.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2010, 12:35:42 PM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's not terrible, but it is just okay.

Nah, it's terrible, like it made me ashamed that the Mouse would put such a product out. It's not even high expectations or anything, it's a movie that starts of bad and gets progressively worse, and I am having a hard time remembering why I ever liked it when I first saw it back in 97.

The memories of James Woods's voice work is probably why you liked it.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2010, 12:41:07 PM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's not terrible, but it is just okay.

Nah, it's terrible, like it made me ashamed that the Mouse would put such a product out. It's not even high expectations or anything, it's a movie that starts of bad and gets progressively worse, and I am having a hard time remembering why I ever liked it when I first saw it back in 97.

The memories of James Woods's voice work is probably why you liked it.

It's as good of an explanation as any, because this time through his voicework was the only positive I took away. It really sucks that it isn't any good too, because I consider the Musker/Clements duo to be on par with the greatest animated directors of all time, in that special grouping of Stanton, Luske/Jackson/Geronimi, Stanton, Lasseter, Miyazaki, Takahata, Bird,. Trousdale/Wise and Docter. Yet, off the top of my head they are the only directors in what I consider the top flight group to have ever come out with such a stinker.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2010, 08:28:57 AM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's in no way the worst Disney film. The songs are great, the characters are original and unique, the animation is very slick and the story is a lot of fun. There seems to be an unjust illogical bias on Bill's part.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2010, 11:02:46 AM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's in no way the worst Disney film. The songs are great, the characters are original and unique, the animation is very slick and the story is a lot of fun. There seems to be an unjust illogical bias on Bill's part.

What bias? I laid out my reasons and they are perfectly valid, if you're going to make a bias claim then back it up, please.  :)

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2010, 11:23:26 AM »
Mulan (1998)

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Based on its placement in the marathon Mulan is a bit of a turning point. Regardless of what you thought of them, the films that preceded Mulan were traditionally animated, at least to the naked eye they were. The films that follow Mulan feature more and more digital animation, and in many cases it is jarring and obvious. Iím sure there is some digital animation in Mulan, but it is a turning point film because it is one of the last films where the digital animation is near impossible to pick out. Mulan is also a turning point film because outside of maybe Lilo & Stitch  very few of the upcoming Disney animated films in the marathon have a female journey as the featured storyline. From The Little Mermaid  to Mulan female characters were more often than not in the lead or their plight was given a considerable amount of weight. For better or worse Disney changed their focus to more of a boys adventure following Mulan.

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Rankings:
1) Fantasia (1940)
2) Alice In Wonderland (1951)
3) Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937)
4) The Lion King (1994)
5) The Little Mermaid (1989)
6) Robin Hood (1973)
7) The Great Mouse Detective (1986)
8) The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1996)
9) Pocahontas (1995)
10) Bambi (1942)
11) Aladdin (1992)
12) Cinderella (1950)
13) Lady And The Tramp (1955)
14) One Hundred And One Dalmatians (1961)
15) Mulan (1998)
16) The Jungle Book (1967)
17) Dumbo (1941)
18) The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh (1977)
19) Pinocchio (1940)
20) The Fox And The Hound (1981)
21) Peter Pan (1953)
22) The Sword In The Stone (1963)
23) The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad (1949)
24) Mary Poppins (1964)
25) Fun & Fancy Free (1947)
26) The Three Caballeros (1944)
27) Sleeping Beauty (1959)
28) Saludos Amigos (1942)
29) The Rescuers Down Under (1990)
30) Make Mine Music (1946)
31) The AristoCats (1970)
32) The Rescuers (1977)
33) Melody Time (1948)
34) Oliver & Company (1988)
35) Hercules (1997)
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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2010, 11:53:26 AM »
Nice review, Bill. I mostly agree, although I would put Mulan a lot higher than Pocahontas. Also, for me, the stuff with Mushu does not work. But many of the songs are pretty great, and all of the army sequences are fantastic. And I cry at the end scene every time I see this movie. The father/daughter thing snags my psyche.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2010, 01:31:55 PM »
You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.

It's in no way the worst Disney film. The songs are great, the characters are original and unique, the animation is very slick and the story is a lot of fun. There seems to be an unjust illogical bias on Bill's part.

What bias? I laid out my reasons and they are perfectly valid, if you're going to make a bias claim then back it up, please.  :)

I just meant you seemed to hate it before even doing your rewatch. You'd already made up your decision about the film beforehand.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2010, 01:40:44 PM »
Great Mulan review btw, agree completely.
How you can be so wrong about one movie and so right about another baffles me.  ;)

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