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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2010, 07:26:30 AM »
Dinosaur (2000)

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I spent a good portion of Dinosaur with my jaw wide open and my tongue nearly hitting the floor. Visually I dare say you may not be able to find a better looking animated film than Dinosaur ever! Yes, I am comfortable using that amount of hyperbole, if that means anything to you. Dinosaur isn’t a long movie, it doesn’t need to be, yet in it’s short run time it found new ways to make me say “wow” over and over again and trust me, that doesn’t happen often.

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Rankings:
1) Fantasia (1940)
2) Alice In Wonderland (1951)
3) Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937)
4) The Lion King (1994)
5) The Little Mermaid (1989)
6) Robin Hood (1973)
7) The Great Mouse Detective (1986)
8) The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1996)
9) Beauty And The Beast (1991)
10) Pocahontas (1995)
11) Bambi (1942)
12) Aladdin (1992)
13) Cinderella (1950)
14) Lady And The Tramp (1955)
15) One Hundred And One Dalmatians (1961)
16) Mulan (1998)
17) Dinosaur (2000)
18) The Jungle Book (1967)
19) Dumbo (1941)
20) The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh (1977)
21) Pinocchio (1940)
22) The Fox And The Hound (1981)
23) Peter Pan (1953)
24) The Sword In The Stone (1963)
25) The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad (1949)
26) Mary Poppins (1964)
27) Fun & Fancy Free (1947)
28) The Three Caballeros (1944)
29) Tarzan (1999)
30) Sleeping Beauty (1959)
31) The Black Cauldron (1985)
32) Saludos Amigos (1942)
33) The Rescuers Down Under (1990)
34) Make Mine Music (1946)
35) The AristoCats (1970)
36) The Rescuers (1977)
37) Melody Time (1948)
38) Oliver & Company (1988)
39) Hercules (1997)

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2010, 08:02:01 AM »
Having been disappointed by the previous couple movies following the heights of Hunchback, Dinosaur was actually a pleasant surprise for me when I saw it.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2010, 10:08:32 AM »
Isn't it just somewhat of a Land Before Time rip-off.

BTW do you have a schedule for this marathon or are you just winging it?

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2010, 10:21:30 AM »
Isn't it just somewhat of a Land Before Time rip-off.

It has similarities to TLBT, but it's not a rip-off by any means. Dinosaur's a much richer visual film, but beyond that TLBT, as I recall it, is all about family, whereas Dinosaur is about the strong versus the weak.

BTW do you have a schedule for this marathon or are you just winging it?

Originally there was a schedule, but as one by one all the other participants dropped out I basically said screw it to the schedule. The only other forum member still taking part in this is pix, and he posts his thoughts when he gets around to the films, which is usually much later than me. I've actually been pushing the marathon pretty hard lately as I want to finish it, as well as my WWII marathon, and move on to a new marathon at my blog. So yeah, I pretty much wing it at this point.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2010, 11:51:00 PM »
Well I'm gonna start following along with this. Just re-watched

Dinosaur:
I didn't remember that the animated characters were set on live action backgrounds and was pleasantly surprised by how unique the film looked. (Bill are you saying you thought the backgrounds were CGI?) The animation is gorgeous, not on the level of, let's say, later Pixar efforts but at the time (2000) it must have been really something special. Story/characters were boring/generic.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2010, 10:13:53 AM »
Well I'm gonna start following along with this. Just re-watched

Dinosaur:
I didn't remember that the animated characters were set on live action backgrounds and was pleasantly surprised by how unique the film looked. (Bill are you saying you thought the backgrounds were CGI?) The animation is gorgeous, not on the level of, let's say, later Pixar efforts but at the time (2000) it must have been really something special. Story/characters were boring/generic.

No, but they blended the CGI into the backgrounds so well that they were seamless to my eyes. I was more impressed by the animation than you as I would say it was on the same level, if not better, than any effort ever by Pixar.

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2010, 10:23:12 AM »
Well I'm gonna start following along with this. Just re-watched

Dinosaur:
I didn't remember that the animated characters were set on live action backgrounds and was pleasantly surprised by how unique the film looked. (Bill are you saying you thought the backgrounds were CGI?) The animation is gorgeous, not on the level of, let's say, later Pixar efforts but at the time (2000) it must have been really something special. Story/characters were boring/generic.

No, but they blended the CGI into the backgrounds so well that they were seamless to my eyes. I was more impressed by the animation than you as I would say it was on the same level, if not better, than any effort ever by Pixar.

Yo be fair I watched my old VHS 4:3 version of the film. :P
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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2010, 10:25:08 AM »
Well I'm gonna start following along with this. Just re-watched

Dinosaur:
I didn't remember that the animated characters were set on live action backgrounds and was pleasantly surprised by how unique the film looked. (Bill are you saying you thought the backgrounds were CGI?) The animation is gorgeous, not on the level of, let's say, later Pixar efforts but at the time (2000) it must have been really something special. Story/characters were boring/generic.

No, but they blended the CGI into the backgrounds so well that they were seamless to my eyes. I was more impressed by the animation than you as I would say it was on the same level, if not better, than any effort ever by Pixar.

Yo be fair I watch my old VHS 4:3 version of the film. :P

That can affect a man. Odin knows I forever associate scraggly tracking lines with Arnie's decent into molten fire in T2.  :D

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2010, 06:03:59 PM »
The Emperor's New Groove (2000)

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As I watched The Emperor’s New Groove two thoughts immediately made their way into my cranium. The first was that The Emperor’s New Groove reminded me a lot of Hercules. The second was that The Emperor’s New Groove  was structured a lot like a 1930′s madcap comedy. Those who know me know that the first is not a good thing, while the second could be a great thing. Before you get your panties in a bunch, both thoughts held true yet added together for quite the great movie watching experience. The Emperor’s New Groove combines elements of Hercules  with the structure of a 1930′s madcap comedy to form perhaps the most unique Disney animated feature ever, as well as one of the best.

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Rankings:
1) Fantasia (1940)
2) Alice In Wonderland (1951)
3) Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937)
4) The Lion King (1994)
5) The Little Mermaid (1989)
6) Robin Hood (1973)
7) The Great Mouse Detective (1986)
8) The Emperor's New Groove (2000)
9) The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1996)
10) Beauty And The Beast (1991)
11) Pocahontas (1995)
12) Bambi (1942)
13) Aladdin (1992)
14) Cinderella (1950)
15) Lady And The Tramp (1955)
16) One Hundred And One Dalmatians (1961)
17) Mulan (1998)
18) Dinosaur (2000)
19) The Jungle Book (1967)
20) Dumbo (1941)
21) The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh (1977)
22) Pinocchio (1940)
23) The Fox And The Hound (1981)
24) Peter Pan (1953)
25) The Sword In The Stone (1963)
26) The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad (1949)
27) Mary Poppins (1964)
28) Fun & Fancy Free (1947)
29) The Three Caballeros (1944)
30) Tarzan (1999)
31) Sleeping Beauty (1959)
32) The Black Cauldron (1985)
33) Saludos Amigos (1942)
34) The Rescuers Down Under (1990)
35) Make Mine Music (1946)
36) The AristoCats (1970)
37) The Rescuers (1977)
38) Melody Time (1948)
39) Oliver & Company (1988)
40) Hercules (1997)

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Re: Bill's Mega Disney Animated Marathon Thread
« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2010, 07:51:20 PM »
Ok so here's my big beef with the movie: Kuzco is not a likable protagonist, in fact he's an asshole. The first time I saw this movie I couldn't help but feel confused, I'd been so used to having either these young innocent characters, they were brave and nice and adventurous. Characters to look up to. Kuzco is just a jerk.
Of course the film is a tale of redemption and discovery and Kuzco does "learn" to be nice eventually, but up until that point I couldn't feel invested in his character. Unlike you I didn't find the breaking the fourth wall stuff endearing, in fact it was very annoying. The part where the record skips and he pauses the film to remind the viewer that the film is about him just made me hate him even more. The fact that Pacha sticks with him even after he betrays him made me even more angry.
Yzma is a boring villain (when it comes to advisers wanting to steal the throne, Jafar is king). She's so boring  that her sidekick steal the spotlight from her, I don't know if I can say that for any other Disney villains.
An unlikable protagonist and a boring villain doesn't make much of a film. As you said Kronk is great and I did like the last third of the film, once Kuzco has his change of heart and he develops his friendship with Pacha, but its not nearly enough to redeem the rest of the film.

Next up is Atlantis? :) Or are you going back to Fantasia 2000?

 

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