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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #80 on: October 25, 2010, 05:47:17 AM »
People need to put Mike Leigh on their lists.

I'd like to see that too :)

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2010, 05:52:41 AM »
People need to put Mike Leigh on their lists.

I'd like to see that too :)

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2010, 04:01:15 PM »
It has been interesting to see how people differ in their view of how many films they need to have seen/liked (or the director to have made) to be considered. Some people are even saying "I've seen four or five which isn't enough to rank" which seems crazy strict. Then again, I included someone who has only made one (Martin McDonough, though I threw in his short film as well) and at least two who have only released two (when I had filled out my ballot anyway). I think greatness can include potential as well for someone whose future is mostly ahead of them.

This is a big problem for me. How do you balance someone who only made a handful of films and was very consistent versus someone who made a lot of films with greater peaks and lower valleys? I am trying to quantify the films as much as possible by rating all of their films and then using a fancy math formula. Despite not really being a math guy, the results seem to be pretty good. The problem though is that it only really works with directors whom I've seen six or more films by. I'll have to figure something else out for directors that I've seen less than six films for, though the absolute minimum has to be four or five. I can't put Kenji Mizoguchi on my list on the strength of two films no matter how awesome Ugestu Monogatari and Sanshô the Bailiff are because it would reward him for my lack of a sample size.
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2010, 04:02:50 PM »
I can't put Kenji Mizoguchi on my list on the strength of two films no matter how awesome Ugestu Monogatari and Sanshô the Bailiff are because it would reward him for my lack of a sample size.

The solution to this is to do yourself a favor and see more Mizoguchi. :)

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #85 on: October 25, 2010, 04:13:27 PM »
I know, but I'm trying to cram for everyone and Mizoguchi isn't the easiest to find everything for  :-\ . Fuller, Almodovar, Huston, Curtiz, Boyle, Gilliam, Lubitsch, Cukor, and Cronenberg are all at five films and Mizoguchi, Murnau, Sirk, Kieslowski, John Sturges, Fleming, Tati, Renoir, de Sica, Jarmusch, LeRoy, Mankiewicz, Leigh, and Sheridan and at less than five. Unfortunately many of these guys will have to wait until next year.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2010, 04:34:49 PM »
I like jrod's format with the # seen and favorite, so I updated my list (only the top 50 though):

1. Ingmar Bergman (49 - Scenes from a Marriage)
2. Satyajit Ray (36 - Mahanagar)
3. Alfred Hitchcock (36 - Rear Window)
4. Akira Kurosawa (30 - Seven Samurai)
5. Werner Herzog (38 - Aguirre, the Wrath of God)
6. Woody Allen (37 - Love and Death)
7. Luis Bunuel (29 - The Exterminating Angel)
8. Kenji Mizoguchi (17 - Ugetsu)
9. Ming-liang Tsai (11 - The Hole)
10. Francois Truffaut (23 - Jules and Jim)
11. Bela Tarr (10 - Werckmeister Harmonies)
12. Ritwik Ghatak (8 - Meghe Dhaka Tara)
13. Aki Kaurismaki (19 - The Match Factory Girl)
14. Emir Kusturica (10 - Time of the Gypsies)
15. Krzysztof Kieslowski (18 - Three Colors: Blue)
16. Robert Bresson (14 - A Man Escaped)
17. Peter Greenaway (17 - Drowning By Numbers)
18. Pedro Almodovar (10 - All About My Mother)
19. Wes Anderson (8 - The Royal Tenenbaums)
20. David Lynch (15 - Eraserhead)
21. Terrence Malick (4 - The New World)
22. Apichatpong Weerasethakul (7 - Syndromes and a Century)
23. Roy Andersson (8 - Songs from the Second Floor)
24. Anh Hung Tran (6 - The Vertical Ray of the Sun)
25. Orson Welles (12 - The Trial)
26. Jacques Tati (5 - Play Time)
27. Alain Resnais (11 - Last Year at Marienbad)
28. Federico Fellini (14 - Nights of Cabiria)
29. Kon Ichikawa (11 - Revenge of a Kabuki Actor)
30. Ermanno Olmi (5 - I Fidanzati)
31. Michael Powell/Emeric Pressburger (14 - A Matter of Life and Death)
32. James Lee (5 - The Beautiful Washing Machine)
33. Yasujiro Ozu (17 - Early Summer)
34. John Cassavetes (8 - A Woman Under the Influence)
35. Wen Jiang (3 - Devils on the Doorstep)
36. Mikhail Kalatozov (3 - The Letter Never Sent)
37. Douglas Sirk (8 - All That Heaven Allows)
38. Yimou Zhang (11 - The Story of Qiu Ju)
39. Stanley Kubrick (12 - 2001: A Space Odyssey)
40. Stan Brakhage (112 - Commingled Containers)
41. Nobuhiko Obayashi (8 - House)
42. Martin Scorsese (19 - Goodfellas)
43. Hiroshi Teshigahara (8 - Woman in the Dunes)
44. Anthony Mann (13 - The Furies)
45. Mohsen Makhmalbaf (6 - A Moment of Innocence)
46. Abbas Kiarostami (9 - Close-Up)
47. Howard Hawks (14 - Rio Bravo)
48. Victor Erice (3 - Spirit of the Beehive)
49. David Lean (8 - Lawrence of Arabia)
50. Mikio Naruse (7 - Meshi)
51. Michael Winterbottom
52. Masaki Kobayashi
53. Jean-Pierre Jeunet
54. John Brahm
55. Hayao Miyazaki
56. Anthony Asquith
57. Quentin Tarantino
58. Roman Polanski
59. Michelangelo Antonioni
60. Jacques Demy
61. Max Ophuls
62. Elia Kazan
63. Joel & Ethan Coen
64. Michael Haneke
65. Milos Forman
66. Frank Capra
67. Shohei Imamura
68. Buster Keaton
69. Louis Malle
70. Phil Karlson
71. Pen-Ek Ratanaruang
72. Carl Theodor Dreyer
73. Steven Soderbergh
74. Nicholas Ray
75. Agnes Varda
76. Fritz Lang
77. Sergio Leone
78. Francis Ford Coppola
79. Michael Curtiz
80. Otto Preminger
81. Carol Reed
82. Jean-Pierre Melville
83. Jacques Tourneur
84. Jules Dassin
85. Billy Wilder
86. Henry Hathaway
87. Robert Wise
88. Kar-Wai Wong
89. William Wyler
90. Takeshi Kitano
91. Jane Campion
92. Shunji Iwai
93. Joseph L. Mankiewicz
94. Andrei Tarkovsky
95. Jean Renoir
96. Leo McCarey
97. John Huston
98. George Cukor
99. Sergei Parajanov
100. Eric Rohmer


I'm noticing a lot of places where I could fine-tune the order, even near the top.  Ah well, whatever.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #87 on: October 25, 2010, 04:38:02 PM »
 :o This is just showing-off now.  :D

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #88 on: October 25, 2010, 07:10:27 PM »
75. Agnes Varda
Too low!

Also, is she the only lady present?  :'(

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2010, 07:27:17 PM »
75. Agnes Varda
Too low!

Also, is she the only lady present?  :'(

No, there's one other (Campion).  And I almost included Aparna Sen, but her last movie was pretty bad.

 

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