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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #190 on: November 28, 2010, 01:28:26 AM »
Yeah I've just spent an hour and a half (I could have watched a whole movie WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME) trying out and fiddling with SJ's system and I have mixed feelings about the results.  I'll probably use it as a general guideline for a few places where I can rejigger my rankings but the math frequently conflicts with my gut instincts.  I feel like the thing that's missing is "this director would have a lower score if I watched all the movies by him that I've deliberately avoided".

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #191 on: November 28, 2010, 02:43:40 AM »
Great lists Senior Javi and Flieger

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #192 on: November 28, 2010, 05:58:09 AM »
Please vote here :). And the rest of you should go ahead and send me your ballots! You don't *have* to send in a list of 50. Any length is fine.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #193 on: November 28, 2010, 07:59:10 AM »
Is there a voting scale to the lists, or just 50 in any order?

I assume this has already been clarified, but I couldn't find it :(

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #194 on: November 28, 2010, 08:39:07 AM »
Oh yes, there is a voting scale, so please send me ranked lists. This is the scale I had in mind. To be honest, I haven't put in a lot of thought into comparing scales and so on. So feel free to comment on it. Wilson, I'd especially appreciate your feedback since you do this for the Top 100 Films every year.

Rank 1 : 12 pts
Ranks 2 - 5 : 10 pts
Ranks 6 -10 : 9 pts
Ranks 11- 20 : 7 pts
Ranks 21 - 30 : 5 pts
Ranks 30 - 40 : 3 pts
Ranks 40 - 50 : 1 pt

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #195 on: November 28, 2010, 09:04:52 AM »
I'd maybe have one less split in the ranking, there's only 50 so I'd go with say 6 splits and I'd reduce the scale a little.

Perhaps

1 - 10 points
2-10 - 9 points
11-20 - 7 points
21-30 - 6 points
31-40 - 4 points
41-50 - 2 points

That way the difference between being voted 1st and voted 50th is only 500% vs 1200%. 

Using the two scales and assuming Director A receives 7 votes, in the form of: 1 x number 1 vote, 3x top 10 (4, 7, 10), and 3x 31-40 votes
and Director B receives 10 votes, in the form of 6x 31-40 votes and 4x 41-50 votes

With scale A, Director A would receive 49 points, 7 points per vote and Director B receives 22 points, 2.2 points per vote
With scale B, Director A would receive 49 points, 7 points per vote and Director B receives 34 points, 3.4 points per vote

Which allows for more points towards the more loved directors, while not overly punishing the more populist yet less loved director.

Of course, this is just a quick thought and I'm sure the scale is far from perfect but it's a start.  Perhaps pix the robot can come up with a happy medium.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #196 on: November 29, 2010, 09:57:52 AM »
My criteria were that I had to have seen at least 4 features by a director for them to be considered (which narrowed it down to 128 directors). I used an an adjusted criticker average to rank them.

For those interested I adjusted my criticker average for all directors by adding the average of all their films and the average of their best three and dividing by two. This helped bring up the directors that I'd seen more films by.

1   Francois Truffaut   96.43
2   Emir Kusturica   95.25
3   Akira Kurosawa   94.95
4   Krzysztof Kieslowski   94.79
5   Billy Wilder   93.73
6   Coen Brothers   93.12
7   Andrei Tarkovsky   92.88
8   Wong Kar-Wai   92.7
9   Paul Thomas Anderson   92.58
10   Ingmar Bergman   92.33
11   Wes Anderson   92.33
12   Stanley Kubrick   92.27
13   Terrence Malick   91.96
14   Sidney Lumet   91.67
15   Martin Scorsese   91.17
16   Alfred Hitchcock   90.65
17   Federico Fellini   90.43
18   Jean-Luc Godard   90.37
19   Pedro Almodóvar   90.17
20   Sergio Leone   90.13
21   Werner Herzog   90.03
22   Luis Buñuel   89.67
23   David Lean   89.13
24   Francis Ford Coppola   89.02
25   Mike Leigh   88.4
26   Woody Allen   88.09
27   Richard Linklater   87.86
28   Hal Ashby   87.46
29   Spike Lee   87.29
30   Orson Welles   87.04
31   David Lynch   86.17
32   Mike Nichols   86.13
33   Robert Altman   86.1
34   David Fincher   86.09
35   Hayao Miyazaki   85.75
36   Frank Capra   85.67
37   Roman Polanski   85.33
38   Cameron Crowe   84.46
39   Jim Jarmusch   84.25
40   Quentin Tarantino   84.09
41   Danny Boyle   83.75
42   Peter Weir   83.5
43   Michael Haneke   81.63
44   Terry Zwigoff   80.92
45   Ridley Scott   80.31
46   Christopher Nolan   80
47   Steven Soderbergh   79.48
48   Gus Van Sant   79.27
49   Atom Egoyan   79.25
50   John Huston   79

The worst 10 if anyone was wondering.

119   Jon Turteltaub   35.83
120   David Zucker   35.67
121   Wes Craven   32.37
122   Joel Schumacher   28.83
123   Stephen Sommers   27.79
124   Dennis Dugan   27.5
125   Donald Petrie   26.67
126   Peter Segal   24.43
127   Shawn Levy   21.92
128   Renny Harlin   16.4

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #197 on: November 29, 2010, 10:09:19 AM »
2   Emir Kusturica   95.25
7   Andrei Tarkovsky   92.88
23   David Lean   89.13

Great and unique choices.
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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #198 on: November 29, 2010, 10:19:36 AM »
I'd maybe have one less split in the ranking, there's only 50 so I'd go with say 6 splits and I'd reduce the scale a little.

Thank you so much, Wilson. That's really helpful. I'll try and play around with the scale a little more to see if I can do any better but otherwise, am going to just use your scale. Really appreciate it.

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Re: Filmspotters' Top 100 Directors 2010: FYC and Your Lists
« Reply #199 on: November 30, 2010, 06:03:28 AM »
I just sent in my paltry list. Better than nothing fo sho.

I would edit your first post in this thread w@w to include instructions for PMing you so it's easier for people to know what to do. I know it took me a few minutes to figure it out as I looked for another thread blah blah blah.
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