I'm just annoyed by the way people take it as assumed that The Room is bad, because it has a lot of technical flaws, and typically frame the discussion as "is it just bad or so bad it is good" without considering whether it is actually just decent.
The Room is more or less aesthetically worthless. It's a bad film, though some of its eccentricities make it a fun movie to watch. Tommy Wiseau does seem to possess a sort of vision and there is a thematic thrust to the film, as it were, but that doesn't make the film "decent." I decided that after I watched it, not before. So, yes, the "frame" of the conversation regarding
The Room is not about where it's actually good or not, but if, as you say, "it's just bad, or so bad it's good." That's what the film came to be known for, but each viewer, as they watch the film, decide how to look at it.
And then you get something like Eraserhead and even though it is in many ways just as messy a film, the frame is more "profound or pretentious"...instantly setting it on a different plane of artistry that I don't think should be assumed.
Messy how? I think the "frame" of the conversation regarding
Eraserhead is that it's mostly just a bizarre CINECAST!ing movie. But once you move past that (as I think most serious Lynch fans do), you find a movie that's aesthetically/thematically/emotionally very interesting and complex.
The Room, for all of Tommy Wiseau's vision, never rises above the laughable acting, script, etc. It's a fascinating object. A film I'm glad I've seen. But not a good one.
So. You have a choice. You can choose to only see the bizarre, weird things in David Lynch movies, dismiss them, and be done with it. Or, you can choose to take Lynch's movies seriously and ask yourself, "what are these movies doing? why are they doing that? do I find what they're doing useful/interesting/whatever?"
You have the power to "frame" the conversation within you. You have the choice to see these movies differently.
hmmm, this part of [noembed]
Eraserhead[/noembed] always gives me chills. The reveal of the stage near the end is just awesome...
so... movies...